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I'll answer any questions you have for him.  ;)

Why did you vanish with over 1 million bitcoins and why did you decide to start unloading them in 2013?

Simply because it's pointless since he has been missing in action since forever now. What would be the point of making questions to someone that is definitely not going to be replying to them? Only if he came back under an official profile (like on this forum) I would bother.

I didn't vanish. I left early on because I noticed how overzealous the puppeteers were. The "million" bitcoins just remained there from my mining tests in the prototype software I wrote. I'm surprised Hal carried it over. I tried to "unload" them through my Mt. Gox wallet, but you can see how history turned out with Mt. Gox. My wallet was hijacked and I was locked out of it. I threw away the keys because I realized the "puppeteers" would never pass that value to me and that was that. This is why those bitcoins "never moved". Not because I didn't want to, because I can't.

LOL. Seriously? Do I have to make it more obvious?

LOL. Man, seriously, these people. I could be telling the truth and you won't even believe it. And you wonder why I talk so much shit about you guys. I'm Satoshi Nakamoto.

Holy shit, man. Seriously. I think if I can get Garzik to finally come in here and acknowledge it, you guys' brains will explode.

You're telling me I didn't create Bitcoin? And I don't know my own history? Seriously?

So you know so much about Bitcoin, then enlighten Satoshi Nakamoto.

I removed my post, because I didn't want to bother with your stupidity. Guess I wasn't fast enough. People like you annoy me so much, damn.

I wonder if you're genuinely ignorant or a sockpuppet account. This is the problem with Bitcoiners, you want to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, well here I am. So now all of a sudden, I'm a troll and can't possibly be him? You guys been vaping too much.

How much you getting paid per post on this forum? You can't even point out the errors you mention?

Seriously. If you don't know the facts, you sure know how to question them. What kind of logic is that? If you are the authority of my life's history, please, enlighten me.

Can we have another Satoshi please? This one has not convinced me.

Not a cult. Needs Satoshi to be a GOD.

I'm starting to wonder if all you guys are all from Harding and just being dicks. And that maybe most of the users on this forum are sockpuppets.

Here's a question for you: Can you prove that you are Satoshi? If so, please do so.

I don't have my keys anymore. So signing PGP messages and crap won't do any good. All I have to mention is Harding University High School, Charlotte, North Carolina. You get records of the students that attended that school, then I'll get some vindication. Obviously, it doesn't help now that Gavin and Garzik are denying ever knowing me. For shame.

Login to your e-mail account and sent theymos a message. That would prove something.

LOL. It was hijacked. What kind of question is this? Last person I interacted with was Roger Ver before I lost control of my old emails. The guy is an asshole. There's no doubt he was involved in the hijackings.

Ask Chris Derose. He's been the only classmate who vouched for me. I can't believe it.

Since you claim to have lost all of the keys, the only way for anyone to believe you is to get someone prominent in the Bitcoin community to vouch for you.

Also, I highly doubt that Satoshi would actually lose his keys.

I threw them away. Read the previous response. It served two purposes. From the get-go, the investors weren't willing to part with their money, they won't let me cash out because I own so much bitcoins (obviously, I created it, I can mint as much as I want). Second, had someone else gotten control of the keys early on, they could have erased me even earlier. Those damn bitcoins were the only thing linking me back to the past, ironically, much like how the blockchain is designed.

There's something odd with your manner of speech, Satoshi. Why are you so rude and sarcastic all of a sudden?

LOL. Real Satoshi vs. Gavin/Garzik/Snowden/Hal Satoshi

“LOL” isn't an answer the real Satoshi would give.

Do you know Satoshi personally? C'mon. Or rather, do I know you? I hope you realize that most of the "quotes" online aren't by me. But I can tell you which ones are and which aren't.

It's not personal interaction we're having here. It's a forum. And Satoshi never said “LOL” in the forum.

Because that wasn't me. That was either Garzik, Gavin, or whoever else. I'm the ORIGINAL Satoshi Nakamoto.

The “original” Satoshi Nakamoto is a disappointment, then.

LOL. So are the Bitcoiners, then. Love the irony. By the very nature of you being on this forum, associated with my invention, you are a Satoshi Nakamoto true believer. If you believe me a disappointment, you are also a disappointment. You have a mere 560 posts. A sock puppet account by an admin.

So somehow the other "fake" Satoshi got a hold of the PGP key that you, the "original" satoshi destroyed.

I'm a sockpuppet? How come I never knew that before? Which admin is in control of me? I would like to contact them.

You don't need the key to "pose as Satoshi Nakamoto".

For example, "I fart rainbows." -achow101

Do you see how that works? Most of what public read as "quotes from Satoshi Nakamoto" are not from me. All the technobabble is from Garzik or Gavin or other core devs. You can watch all those silly YouTube videos with Gavin pretending to be Satoshi. In most cases, the technobabble Satoshi is Gavin.

So I get that you are somehow acknowledging that I am in fact the real deal.

“Somehow”, using a flawed version of logical reasoning that doesn't apply to the real world.

I sense you're trying to combat me. It just doesn't make any sense. You seem like a teabagger or overzealous person. If I can get Chris DeRose, Jeff Garzik, Gavin Andressen, Andreas Antonopolis, Jon Matonis, etc., to voucher for me, then will you be content? I bet even then, you'd still try to cut me down somehow. How's the Bitcoin tech you're so deeply involved in? Is it any good? Who created it?

So are you suggesting that you did not write version 0.1 of the reference client and did not write the bitcoin whitepaper since that is technobabble?

I wrote the original protocol. It was more figurative and abstract. What the public knows as the "official" whitepaper is written by Gavin, Snowden, Garzik and those other tech-savvy early adopters. But if I recall, Garzik showed me his version bound as a book like a bible. I think it was his idea to make the whole thing a religious joke. The protocol, which they follow very closely, is in fact my baby.

So where can I find the original protocol? From what I understand, the first publicly available thing that described the protocol is the Bitcoin whitepaper posted on some mailing list.

Also, I checked out your profile. From the looks on your website, you don't have a background in cryptography, but you do have some in programming.

I only printed out 2 copies. This whole Bitcoin thing was just an assignment for World History class to come up with a decentrailized money system. We had to turn the paper in anonymously, so it was never my intention to be anonymous. The chancellor at Harding made me hand in a copy to Gavin, who was Head of Communications or something-like-that at Harding. The other copy I gave to Edward Snowden, but I think Carl Mark Force took it from him. This was back in 1998. So I don't have any copies.

I got the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto out of a pile of papers in a box in the computer lab. Bitcoin was a last minute project.

Seriously, though, all you have to do is ask Gavin or Garzik. I think they'll deny it because they think they're protecting me, but they're not really doing me any favors at this point in Bitcoin's history.

And I'm not a cryptographer, but I do have some programming experience.

And thus, I can now call BULLSHIT!! (Of course, I should and could have done this much earlier)
what high school would allow you to turn in an assignment anonymously, how would you get a grade?

Snowden did not go to high school at Harding.

Seriously, name dropping? Complete and absolute BS

Stop trolling, Mr. Saelee.

LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?

Enough to know that you're just spouting bullshit and making stuff up. Stop spreading FUD, both here, and wherever else you post this dumbass story and BS (e.g. the comments of this article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113710/satoshi-was-not-a-cryptographer-says-gavin-andresen)

What you claim about all the big names and early adopters of Bitcoin being at Harding in one place at the same time during 1998 is BS. At that point you're just name dropping to get attention.

OK, use some logic here. How did these "big names" get where they are now if they weren't privvy to it from the start? If you use Bitcoin, I really am hoping you have some good gumption. Think about how long it takes for only 1 or 2 people to write an entire piece of software, especially with limited funding.

Using logic, these people would know of Bitcoin because they were on the original mailing list where Satoshi published the whitepaper.

And... I was on that mailing list too. Why can't you connect that? It was when I was still using the satoshin@gmx.com email. Again, that "whitepaper" that was published on the mailing list wouldn't have been my original paper anymore. Gavin and company would have re-written it into a technical paper by then, which is what you come to know was the "public" whitepaper.

You sense I'm trying to combat you, but what are you trying to do with me?

Would getting all these important people confirm your identity satisfy me? Yes, it would. But, with which purpose would you be doing it? Just so that I shut up, and you prove a point? Again, that seems out of character, considering the evidence of Satoshi Nakamoto's posts online.

Even the purpose of Bitcoin itself is not to “prove a point” at all, so why do you keep forcing this? Are you having fun with it?

Y'know, there are some simple motivations in life. I just want credit. When you invent something this big, and people don't respect you, especially early adopters, why wouldn't you think it's a great offense?

The real Satoshi Nakamoto would know how to receive credit properly.

Also, I'm not an early adopter, so you don't need to worry about me.

You just claimed not to be an early adopter, yet you claim to know Satoshi Nakamoto really well. Trust me, you don't know me or the true backstory of Bitcoin. You can't get credit if the assignment is to turn in a paper with a pseudonym. Wow, this guy, not paying attention.

I'm sorry, you must be confused. I never claimed that I “knew Satoshi Nakamoto really well”. All my claims are based on his public posts on this forum.


I certainly don't know you. That's true. It's just that all your story and dialog is incompatible with all the previous posts published under the handle of satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3).



If your assignment required to be turned in under a pseudonym, how did it get graded?

It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?

I still don't see the point on having to use a pseudonym as part of the assignment. What purpose did it serve for the class? Was it just for teh lulz? Or, if it wasn't, then asking for who wrote it afterwards would have been immoral.

It's Eastfist trolling you.

Obviously.

Keeping it anonymous was probably to see if there was any bias in how the class would respond. Frankly, I don't know their motive. I think that was the whole point was so they could take advantage of it.

Wow, someone's in denial. Or antagonizing with motive.

Use some logic: how many people out there are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto? And why would they? Why would I if it wasn't true? Most trolls would claim to be Satoshi only to make fun of him.

That seems exactly what you're doing.

I think you're reading comprehension is really bad. Does it sound like I'm making fun of myself?

1) Your*
2) No. It sounds like Eastfist is making fun of Satoshi Nakamoto.

It's pretty clear you're just antagonizing me now. LOL. Man, this is sad.

Read 'em and weap, folks, if you're just joining in this thread now. No questions about how blockchain works, what insight there was into history and other things, just outright badgering and ridicule. And yet, troll users still use Bitcoin, while completely disrespecting inventor. What kind of world do we live in?

While someone who claims to be the inventor makes fun of Satoshi by saying he was a fourteen year old, clueless kid who created bitcoin for a school assignment that required anonymity. Furthermore, he claims that all of the big names in Bitcoin, and others, including Snowden, were at his school, at the same time in 1998 as either students or instructors. Sounds a lot like this troll is making fun of Satoshi.

Now, if you really want to know who Eastfist is, just go to his website, www.eastfist.com. It's in his profile.

Wow. Seriously? That's "making fun" of Satoshi Nakamoto? I'm telling you the actual truth and it sounds far-fetched? Wow.

www.eastfist.com/about

“The Self-Proclaimed Genius”

Oh, God.

LOL. I'm gonna let that sink in a bit. Why a troll would do that. Y'know, declare himself a genius. Then try to mooch off of Satoshi Nakamoto, or "make fun" of him.

http://blog.eastfist.com/2015/05/02/example-of-bitcoin-community-stupidity-absolute-disrespect-for-satoshi-nakamoto/

Oh, no, Eastfist is making fun of us in his blog? Wait... it's just the full transcript of this thread. What's the point?

Anyway, I post it here to create a feedback loop.

The point is: Why do people find it so hard to believe that I'm Satoshi Nakamoto? Try to go read Chris DeRose's YouTube comments and see how much respect he has for me. He's about the only guy that will voucher for me. Everyone else pretends to be dumb. Seriously, I can't understand why you don't understand how offensive that is.

Because there's zero proof. The only plausible proof is signing with a key known to be from Satoshi Nakamoto, and you claimed you lost it.

How is that proof? You're telling me if you just outright asked Jeff Garzik, Gavin Andresen, Chris DeRose, like HONESTLY, they wouldn't tell you the truth? Right now, of course, if you ask them, they're afraid they'll lose business or money, but if you really ask them and the early adopters, they'll acknowledge it. Me signing anything only implies I further developed the community with them other than just writing the initial protocol.

I don't know those people. I cannot trust people I don't know.


The “creator” of Bitcoin, a protocol heavily based on cryptography, thinks cryptographic proof is not enough.

Still feeding the troll R2? Just let this topic die  :D

Hey, think like a human being for a minute, not a machine. And just use some common sense. You don't know them, but they are figures in the Bitcoin community. They didn't just pop out from nowhere. You're talking to Satoshi and you don't even know it?

Yeah, I think you're right. We've had enough fun.

What a bunch of dicks. You don't know who Jeff Garzik is? He's one of the admins on this forum. Now I know you're just trolling.