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Title: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 16, 2015, 07:04:14 AM
http://www.bitcoinblog.me/monero-the-replacement-of-bitcoin/ 
 
After reading this, the scale of black market and digital economies and the effect Monero will have on them I am pretty certain we are going to be very wealthy men -- even with a sum as small as 10 Monero. It's just so hard to believe. We are only in the beginning storms with these significant rallies from 50 cents to 50 dollars. I will not be surprised to see prices from hundreds to thousands in the coming years.

The world just isn't going to be the same and we have been blessed as the pioneers.

What are you going to do with your Monero wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: NoirSuccubus on May 16, 2015, 07:06:10 AM
Tf?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: spartak_t on May 16, 2015, 07:10:41 AM
Oh, WOW....


https://i.imgur.com/Xb3QOEY.gif


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: huadylmate on May 16, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
10k a pop you say? Why not 100k! I am feeling a little crap with that so I would give the profit to charity.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: muddafudda on May 16, 2015, 08:47:06 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: huadylmate on May 16, 2015, 08:48:30 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

What so you don't believe it can reach 10k?  >:( This is what makes us all look like negative Johns.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on May 16, 2015, 09:35:03 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

If Monero solves anonymity/privacy best (it does), is scalable (it is), had a fair launch (it did), and has a great development team (they are), then why couldn't it reach those levels?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nakaone on May 16, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

If Monero solves anonymity/privacy best (it does), is scalable (it is), had a fair launch (it did), and has a great development team (they are), then why couldn't it reach those levels?

there are two kinds of reasoning by people: one is by deduction, where one uses a theory and concludes what are the effects on reality - as well as you, I and probably a large group of monero follows this kind of reasoning.

the second to make sense of reality is by induction: you look what is real (a price of somewhat 50 cents) and conclude that it is at best delusional to say xmr will be worth 10 or 100 fold this amount. well basically your theory is derived by reality and not by logic.

I think these threads are not that helpful because they scare the second group and are not news for the first one :)

nevertheless I share pegasus opinion that we could be the new wealthy elite


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kelsey on May 16, 2015, 10:29:47 AM
nevertheless I share pegasus opinion that we could be the new wealthy elite

so essentially replacing rich greedy bankers with rich greedy wankers  ::) so then the whole point would have been  ???


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: tokeweed on May 16, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
Since it's in altcoin, the title should say "We are the new elite... bagholder's edition"


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Nas on May 16, 2015, 11:02:32 AM
Please show me JUST ONE person who use Monero in black market.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on May 16, 2015, 11:05:53 AM
Please show me JUST ONE person who use Monero in black market.

I would assume at least one  XMR.TO or Shapeshift user does, but pretty sure that they use it to remain unshown.  ::)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: batmanbad on May 16, 2015, 11:10:31 AM
10,000 $$  = 1 monero

you have some mental problems, a doctor is the way ;).


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: huadylmate on May 16, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
10,000 $$  = 1 monero

you have some mental problems, a doctor is the way ;).

Similar to the issues you must have, having a scam buster avatar but being one of the worst dirty scammers on the forum. More chance of 10k then you being honest isn't there.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 16, 2015, 01:09:29 PM
Please show me JUST ONE person who use Monero in black market.

That's the point.  Unlike bitcoin, Monero is private, so I can't show you.  However, I'd honestly rather they didn't.  Bitcoin has enough of that stench on it already, and I'd rather avoid the whole debacle this time around...  But because Monero is so good for this, it's likely it will find some use in that sector.  But between you and me?  I'd just as rather Shadowcoin and Shadowcash took over that job. 
 
My vision is that Monero doesn't just take the dark market economy, it takes away the whole thing. 
  
Fundamentally, it improves on bitcoin in a significant way.  It's not even debatable; it's a new protocol that vastly surpasses the original, and did everything right with its launch.  The only criticism you can have is that the devs are perfectionists and there's no official GUI wallet yet.  
  
Take a look at this link; it's head and shoulders above litecoin, or Dogecoin, or MegaUltraCoolCash9000.  Bitcoin succeeded because it wasn't just hype.  There was a fair launch of an amazing new technology -  just like this.  
  
https://forum.getmonero.org/1/news-announcements-and-editorials/209/editorial-what-s-so-special-about-monero


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: celestio on May 16, 2015, 04:06:49 PM
I have come to the conclusion that along with Bitcoin, there's going to be one major other cryptocurrency that stands alongside it. This is because there are niches in cryptocurrencies. The biggest one by far is anonymity.

In order for Monero to get "big", it'd need to infiltrate the darkmarkets(get widely accepted in them) and this is only a matter of time. More and more blockchain "spying" is being done, as shown by the FBI agent that was caught laundering DPR's bitcoins with the help of blockchain analysis(Not a bad thing, just an ex).


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: 3x2 on May 16, 2015, 05:30:56 PM
If you are so sure then you should sell everything and buy more monero.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Wexlike on May 16, 2015, 05:32:48 PM
Wow, you turned into a monero super bull in just 2 days. Welcome :)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Flyskyhigh on May 16, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
Mintcoin is better than Monero.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: obit33 on May 16, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Mintcoin is better than Monero.

why?



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: celestio on May 16, 2015, 06:40:20 PM
Mintcoin is better than Monero.

why?



It's not in the least lol

Mintcoin=100% bitcoin clone with no new features

Monero= Entirely different from Bitcoin with the highest privacy out there for cryptos. Blocksize problem automatically fixed since there is no fixed blocksize limit, and more


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: futureofbitcoin on May 16, 2015, 06:45:08 PM
I am so worried that for some reason Americanpegasus seems to think just like I do. I hope that doesn't mean I'm crazy beyond rehabilitation.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 16, 2015, 07:10:09 PM
I am so worried that for some reason Americanpegasus seems to think just like I do. I hope that doesn't mean I'm crazy beyond rehabilitation.

In the words of Satoshi:  "We're either going to the moon, or we're going to zero.  Nothing in between.  #YOLOSWAG"


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Este Nuno on May 16, 2015, 07:33:39 PM
I am so worried that for some reason Americanpegasus seems to think just like I do. I hope that doesn't mean I'm crazy beyond rehabilitation.

In the words of Satoshi:  "We're either going to the moon, or we're going to zero.  Nothing in between.  #YOLOSWAG"

Wtf is with this Monero cheerleading? Not that Monero is bad or anything, but I thought you were supposed to be working Pegasuscoin.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: sloopy on May 16, 2015, 07:42:55 PM
A successful coin will emerge, but it will be one which doesn't need a fair launch.
Crazy concept I know but it will be a coin which encompasses the main features we need without the bloat associated with making people money.  

Open your mind to a coin which has a purpose of accomplishing usability and profitability without an ever increasing entrance investment. A coin which has several main goals and none of which are to make any single group rich. A coin which makes a pump n dump of no value to the scammers who walk among us ruining good technology.

Start with a goal of changing the monetary system without making someone else rich.
An alternative would be to take a good coin like Monero and work backwards removing the aspects which make people wealthy.

It is the mindset which sets the goals, and the goals which are greed based that lead to the crypto environment we have.
I believe to make a coin which will actually "go to the moon" in terms of adoption, you need to first stop creating coins to make money and develop to help humanity.

No, not another "charity" coin think bigger.
Think of an idea more along the lines of allowing someone to enter the coin's community at the same "cost" for the first and 500 millionth person. No more, no less.

Think of a coin which removes the ability of these so called "exchanges" to work with scammers to manipulate price so they not only pump n dump once, but they do it over, and over, and over to the same coin until there are a few people left holding a ton of worthless crap and the dev moves on because he cannot make his wages.

Once you create a coin which is unaffected by human greed, manipulation from pumpers, and whales you have a beginning to a coin which will be truly adopted.

Before anyone says "this is crypto, it is ALL about making money", "get out if you don't like it", or my favorite is "This is crypto, maybe it isn't for you"... Those people are the ones defining the use of crypto and in doing so, ruining what does still have a chance to change the world for the better. Those people are turning crypto into exactly what bitcoin was invented to work against. This scene is not crypto, this is what greed, scammers, and a few scummy people have turned it into.

Satoshi the group, the man, whatever had the right intentions, but it is time for a rewrite to remove the manipulation.
Only a truly selfless community who wish to accomplish much more than "making money" will succeed.
Everything else is just a shiny quarter vying for our attention and until we as a community decide to stop filling the pockets of the trash who currently define this scene it will continue down the road to be the very thing we rally against.

Making money is great. I could sure use a great deal more.
Changing the world and re-inventing the original intentions of what bitcoin was supposed to be? That is the stuff of true Legends we should all aspire to support and achieve.

Do not idolize someone because they are wealthy in any coin. Idolize someone because they are making, helping, promoting a "good" coin or service which helps everyone even if they are not holding the coin, a coin which helps everyone, period.



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: spartak_t on May 16, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Wtf is with this Monero cheerleading? Not that Monero is bad or anything, but I thought you were supposed to be working Pegasuscoin.

No money (BTC to buy yachts) involved = no work.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 16, 2015, 07:56:43 PM
Here's the thing, sloopy.  
  
You are asking for and expecting the impossible.  Humans are greedy, and that's not going to change.  You can be mad about it, or deny it, but we are greedy because that trait has served us well up until this point in our species' development.  
  
It's possible that future generations may have that trait bred out of them, if we find ourselves in a word where the meek and generous have more babies than the greedy and power-hungry.  
  
That is not the world we live in today.  
  
Satoshi's real genius was to take something negative (human greed) and design a system around it that eventually transforms that greed into something beneficial for all mankind.  
  
And unfortunately, yes, we have to make a few people rich in the process.  That's an unfortunate side effect of a crypto succeeding.  
  
No one would buy into a crypto where there was no potential speculatory profits to be made, because before we ascend to the utility stage, there must be the speculation stage.  
  
So, if you *must* make people rich in order to change the world for the better, the best you can hope for is to make the *right* people rich: the intelligent altruists of the world who won't just use their wealth for egotistical and luxury purposes.  
  
Are you that right kind of person, who deserves to get wealthy?  Would you take the time to significantly improve the world if you had the means?  
  
Then don't be scared of your greed.  
  
Just remember to pay it forward later.  
  
Effective altruism is ruthlessly competing for the most resources so that you can help those who never had the opportunities that you did.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: futureofbitcoin on May 17, 2015, 04:26:30 AM
A successful coin will emerge, but it will be one which doesn't need a fair launch.


I agree that a coin doesn't necessarily have to have a "fair launch" to be successful. But I don't agree with everything else you said.

The thing is, what's the incentive for people to use your coin? There is none. Remember, liberatarians are a very, very small part of the population. The rest of the people enter for 2 reasons:

1. To make money

2. When a coin becomes THE way to pay for everything, they kind of are forced to adapt.

With your coin, there is no incentive to join the network for the first movers, so there is never enough network effects for the people who enter for reason 2.

The "cost" for using any cryptocoin is near 0. You still keep the purchasing value of your fiat when you use fiat to buy the coin. For example, if I bought $100 dollars worth of bitcoins when they were $10 each, I'd get 10 bitcoins, which would buy me $100 worth of stuff.

If I buy $100 dollars worth of bitcoins now, I can still use it to buy $100 dollars worth of stuff. The cost is nothing. That's why people still can switch, even if they're very late. There are no penalties*. But early movers get an advantage to use it, so there is an incentive to enter before it's too late.

*Most people don't consider the opportunity cost. Such is the world.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Flyskyhigh on May 17, 2015, 04:57:22 AM
Mintcoin is better than Monero.

why?



It's not in the least lol

Mintcoin=100% bitcoin clone with no new features

Monero= Entirely different from Bitcoin with the highest privacy out there for cryptos. Blocksize problem automatically fixed since there is no fixed blocksize limit, and more

Mintcoin is 30x faster than Bitcoin, and proof of stake now. It is a lot different.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 17, 2015, 05:01:36 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

Pretty much.  :-\


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: tokeweed on May 17, 2015, 05:42:53 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

Pretty much.  :-\

It's not even the OP.  It's this whole 'industry'...  It's like penny stocks and pink sheets.  It's where the scams are.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on May 17, 2015, 07:43:33 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

Pretty much.  :-\

It's not even the OP.  It's this whole 'industry'...  It's like penny stocks and pink sheets.  It's where the scams are.

If you can't flesh out google from pets.com, that's on you.   ;)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Lloydimiller4 on May 17, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
A successful coin will emerge, but it will be one which doesn't need a fair launch.
Crazy concept I know but it will be a coin which encompasses the main features we need without the bloat associated with making people money.  

Open your mind to a coin which has a purpose of accomplishing usability and profitability without an ever increasing entrance investment. A coin which has several main goals and none of which are to make any single group rich. A coin which makes a pump n dump of no value to the scammers who walk among us ruining good technology.

Start with a goal of changing the monetary system without making someone else rich.
An alternative would be to take a good coin like Monero and work backwards removing the aspects which make people wealthy.

It is the mindset which sets the goals, and the goals which are greed based that lead to the crypto environment we have.
I believe to make a coin which will actually "go to the moon" in terms of adoption, you need to first stop creating coins to make money and develop to help humanity.

No, not another "charity" coin think bigger.
Think of an idea more along the lines of allowing someone to enter the coin's community at the same "cost" for the first and 500 millionth person. No more, no less.

Think of a coin which removes the ability of these so called "exchanges" to work with scammers to manipulate price so they not only pump n dump once, but they do it over, and over, and over to the same coin until there are a few people left holding a ton of worthless crap and the dev moves on because he cannot make his wages.

Once you create a coin which is unaffected by human greed, manipulation from pumpers, and whales you have a beginning to a coin which will be truly adopted.

Before anyone says "this is crypto, it is ALL about making money", "get out if you don't like it", or my favorite is "This is crypto, maybe it isn't for you"... Those people are the ones defining the use of crypto and in doing so, ruining what does still have a chance to change the world for the better. Those people are turning crypto into exactly what bitcoin was invented to work against. This scene is not crypto, this is what greed, scammers, and a few scummy people have turned it into.

Satoshi the group, the man, whatever had the right intentions, but it is time for a rewrite to remove the manipulation.
Only a truly selfless community who wish to accomplish much more than "making money" will succeed.
Everything else is just a shiny quarter vying for our attention and until we as a community decide to stop filling the pockets of the trash who currently define this scene it will continue down the road to be the very thing we rally against.

Making money is great. I could sure use a great deal more.
Changing the world and re-inventing the original intentions of what bitcoin was supposed to be? That is the stuff of true Legends we should all aspire to support and achieve.

Do not idolize someone because they are wealthy in any coin. Idolize someone because they are making, helping, promoting a "good" coin or service which helps everyone even if they are not holding the coin, a coin which helps everyone, period.



I do understand your perspective here sloopy, but I am in higher favor of capitalist than a communistic currency, which is kind of what you are describing. What you want is a utopia, and that will likely never come to fruiting in the next thousand years or never. What Monero does offer that is inline with your idealist views is that the mining algorithm will scale well with normal everyday household computers. The Monero mining algorithm is CPU and GPU and ASIC friendly, anyone can mine Monero and is not at a disadvantage. We can have people from all socioeconomic levels participate in a 'fair' setting. This means that unlike bitcoin, no one is ever truly late to the party with Monero. All you need is a computer which does exclude most third world populations, but as technology grows and grows, electronics become ever cheaper. Look up the C.H.I.P if you haven't, it is a $9 computer similar to a Rasberry Pi.

At any rate, capitalism encourages competition, and competition gets results. I am not a believer in giving a select few the upper hand, but I am a believer that those who are proactive and find something that benefits the world deserve a reward for their efforts.

Monero is the first crypto that is truly private/anonymous. To me, this is valuable, and I am sure to many others, once a bit more development has been done, we will see a world-class currency that could rival bitcoin.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: GTO911 on May 17, 2015, 05:47:22 PM
Some scared Bitcoiners have posted ignorant comments.

This thread will be legendary, Dear Sirs


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: okiefromokc on May 18, 2015, 12:02:45 AM
How many transactions in a Monero Block?
Currently BTC is running ~800 trans per block every 10 minutes... and runs at about 8-10GB of space for the entire chain.
BTC usage is a long ways away from Paypal, and it takes several hours to days to synch the BTC block chain.
How long does it take to synch the Monero chain?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: G2M on May 18, 2015, 12:06:22 AM
How many transactions in a Monero Block?
Currently BTC is running ~800 trans per block every 10 minutes... and runs at about 8-10GB of space for the entire chain.
BTC usage is a long ways away from Paypal, and it takes several hours to days to synch the BTC block chain.
How long does it take to synch the Monero chain?

unlimited transactions in a monero block, there have been blocks with over 500 transactions. and that's with a block time of one minute.

it also takes days to sync the monero chain, but once it's synced, the daemon has no problem keeping up with the network.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on May 18, 2015, 12:29:43 AM
Some scared Bitcoiners have posted ignorant comments.

This thread will be legendary, Dear Sirs

It already is, I suggest OP to re-post this in the official Monero forum thus immortalizing his visionary feelings within a nascent group of more intelligent and like-minded people, this thread makes me want to slowly step away from this forum forever.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 18, 2015, 02:46:27 AM
Some scared Bitcoiners have posted ignorant comments.

This thread will be legendary, Dear Sirs

It already is, I suggest OP to re-post this in the official Monero forum thus immortalizing his visionary feelings within a nascent group of more intelligent and like-minded people, this thread makes me want to slowly step away from this forum forever.

Oh, cool.  I didn't even know about those.  Thanks for telling me; it was important to go ahead and register my screen name there.

https://forum.getmonero.org (https://forum.getmonero.org) 
 
Still has a long way to go before becoming as friendly as this place to use though.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 18, 2015, 02:49:28 AM
How many transactions in a Monero Block?
Currently BTC is running ~800 trans per block every 10 minutes... and runs at about 8-10GB of space for the entire chain.
BTC usage is a long ways away from Paypal, and it takes several hours to days to synch the BTC block chain.
How long does it take to synch the Monero chain?

unlimited transactions in a monero block, there have been blocks with over 500 transactions. and that's with a block time of one minute.

it also takes days to sync the monero chain, but once it's synced, the daemon has no problem keeping up with the network.


What's protecting us from dust attacks?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: jwinterm on May 18, 2015, 06:22:51 AM
How many transactions in a Monero Block?
Currently BTC is running ~800 trans per block every 10 minutes... and runs at about 8-10GB of space for the entire chain.
BTC usage is a long ways away from Paypal, and it takes several hours to days to synch the BTC block chain.
How long does it take to synch the Monero chain?

unlimited transactions in a monero block, there have been blocks with over 500 transactions. and that's with a block time of one minute.

it also takes days to sync the monero chain, but once it's synced, the daemon has no problem keeping up with the network.


What's protecting us from dust attacks?

per-kb fees with a minimum 1 mXMR fee per tx?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kryptologist on May 18, 2015, 08:23:02 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BIT-Sharon on May 18, 2015, 08:46:03 AM
good news that hard to believe


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 18, 2015, 01:50:43 PM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
Well, my average entry was about 52 cents per Monero. 
 
We will see in a year or two how much of a 'bagholder' I really am. 
 
Meanwhile, you'll be pissing fire from your latest encounter with discount-prostitutes dot com, and I'll be sipping mai tais with a harem of clean women, with good technical specs, of each hair color. 
 
Why? 
 
Because I found and believed in the true successor to bitcoin before you did.   
 
On the other hand, I'm not going to waste money.  There's a point of diminishing returns for every asset, and the price premium between Ekaterina and Anya probably isn't worth it.  Especially if we want a blonde, brunette, redhead, black haired, pink, green, and purple. 
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: I2Pcoin on May 18, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Is Monero an i2p coin and is it used on the darkweb and is completely annon? If so it may be the next big thing.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on May 19, 2015, 01:41:01 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
  
Well, my average entry was about 52 cents per Monero.  
  
We will see in a year or two how much of a 'bagholder' I really am.  
  
Meanwhile, you'll be pissing fire from your latest encounter with discount-prostitutes dot com, and I'll be sipping mai tais with a harem of clean women, with good technical specs, of each hair color.  
  
Why?  
  
Because I found and believed in the true successor to bitcoin before you did.  
  
On the other hand, I'm not going to waste money.  There's a point of diminishing returns for every asset, and the price premium between Ekaterina and Anya probably isn't worth it.  Especially if we want a blonde, brunette, redhead, black haired, pink, green, and purple.  
  
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it.  
  
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.  
  
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

This post is pure platinum ;D


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Pecunia non olet on May 19, 2015, 03:03:58 AM
Buy my shitcoin!!! It'll be worth a gazillion TOMORROW! You have been warned!!!

lulz


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: bathrobehero on May 19, 2015, 08:35:11 AM
The network hash rate was at 13Mh/s when I first learned about Monero a week ago.  


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 19, 2015, 09:45:55 AM
How many transactions in a Monero Block?
Currently BTC is running ~800 trans per block every 10 minutes... and runs at about 8-10GB of space for the entire chain.
BTC usage is a long ways away from Paypal, and it takes several hours to days to synch the BTC block chain.
How long does it take to synch the Monero chain?

unlimited transactions in a monero block, there have been blocks with over 500 transactions. and that's with a block time of one minute.

it also takes days to sync the monero chain, but once it's synced, the daemon has no problem keeping up with the network.


What's protecting us from dust attacks?

per-kb fees with a minimum 1 mXMR fee per tx?

That and the dynamic limit based on the median of the last 100 blocks (hard limit at 2x median). Miners can increase the limit, but only gradually and they have to give up some of their rewards for that, so it makes no sense to do unless sufficient fees are being paid and a high volume of transactions is expected. Once they stop filling the blocks above the median size, the limit goes back down.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BlockaFett on May 19, 2015, 12:51:11 PM
This is becoming a real joke guys.

Monero's "profound" technology - Off-the-shelf CryptoNote copied in from Bytecoin including the crippled miner code which Monero launched and then said they didn't realize the miner was scammed.  After 1 year of "development" the official wallet is still a horrific mess that takes a week to sync and has inherent major issues with dust, blockchain bloat, large transactions failing, they didn't work out how to add a GUI either even though CryptoNote (the actually innovators) made them one for free..and exchanges won't implement based on how unstable the wallet is and that every transaction needs the user to enter a seperate payment ID causing a support melt-down - The basic system doesn't work.

Monero is decentralized / anonymous - With how shit the wallet is, new blood on the Monero forum get funneled quickly into MyMonero.com, a web wallet operated by the lead dev Fluffy Pony.  This gives Fluffy (and his ISP etc) access to all XMR transactions, users and their IPs who use the web wallet, which is the only viable 'official' wallet for most users. And it went down recently so no one could withdraw XMR and Fluffy's solution was 'Sorry it went down while I was in bed, for support, call me on the mobile, i will leave it on now'.  Kind of strange for the most anonymous / decentralized coin?  Except he has done this before when he tried to raise $200k from Vertcoin investors for Vertpay.com.  And he is working on his next installment PayBee.com coming soon.....These are the Monero lead dev's development priorities while the official wallet still is unstable and has no GUI after 1 year.. ???  

Secondly, 95% of XMR volume is going through Poloniex, which now requires your name and address before you can withdraw coins (and obviously knows everyone's IP and balance / transactions).  So between MyMonero and Poloniex, in reality, Monero is almost totally centralized and delivering zero anonymity which is why no one is actually using it

Great dev team - Spend most of their time goading a small core of deluded Monero investors to believe that a clone-coin with zero development that after 1 year they can't work out how to finish, will replace bitcoin.  Stemming from there this cult goes out around BCT attacking anyone designated by Fluffy / Smooth as "a scam" which is each competitor.  Totally dishonest with their community in their "pump talk" about 10,000 XMR pizzas and how they will be the new elite lol, when in fact as a clone coin with the innovation done out-of-house, anyone else cloning Bytecoin that does a slightly better job (like make a usable wallet) and Monero's value based on "innovation" evaporates, and they are just left with a "good community" or rather "the most agressive / toxic community in alts right now" as I see it...the fact something this obvious is never mentioned and instead the devs themselves go around trying to kill or takeover the competition to eliminate this possibility instead of developing, is what makes Monero essentially an elaborate hoax / ponzi scheme operated through BCT, Poloniex and a constant supply of either pump talk or FUDing the competition.

How long before you realize no one wants your sh*tcoin, stop trolling BCT.  You should be being humble and going to make a basic wallet work, you have to earn value through work not through typing propaganda and bullshit all day.......................


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: obit33 on May 19, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Lol, you're becoming the joke dude... stop pretending allright, you'e a dash-cheerleader: https://twitter.com/blockafett

- official wallet is OK, I'm not a tech-savvy guy, but got it working on windows and linux... had no issues making large transactions, never had to enter a payment ID, you're making shit up...
- mtgox at one time had 80%  of all btc-traffic... look how big a fail that was, not... monero is still starting up, kinda normal it's not spread through the whole world...
- never heard the monero dev team say they would become the new elite, they are working on it, albeit slow but thorough, no problem with that...

seems you're the obvious dash-troll here accusing other people of trolling... there are words for this kind of behaviour, like 'pathetic', 'hypocrite', etc... I won't go as far as to calling you these

but go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself in trying to pump dash and kill monero, I wish you good luck sir!

best regards


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BlockaFett on May 19, 2015, 01:41:43 PM
Lol, you're becoming the joke dude... stop pretending allright, you'e a dash-cheerleader: https://twitter.com/blockafett

- official wallet is OK, I'm not a tech-savvy guy, but got it working on windows and linux... had no issues making large transactions, never had to enter a payment ID, you're making shit up...
- mtgox at one time had 80%  of all btc-traffic... look how big a fail that was, not... monero is still starting up, kinda normal it's not spread through the whole world...
- never heard the monero dev team say they would become the new elite, they are working on it, albeit slow but thorough, no problem with that...

seems you're the obvious dash-troll here accusing other people of trolling... there are words for this kind of behaviour, like 'pathetic', 'hypocrite', etc... I won't go as far as to calling you these

but go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself in trying to pump dash and kill monero, I wish you good luck sir!

best regards

lol how is posting here helping to pump Dash, one of the top 5 alts, exactly?  The connection with Dash is that's how I met Monero core-dev Smooth while he was in the top 3 trolls on the Dash thread...since then it's more about having a scam shoved in your face and feeling motivated to point out the obvious...

You basically evaded 95% of my points as to why Monero is a hoax/ponzi scheme, off-the-shelf clone with zero actual anonymity / decentralization, and a militant 'dev' team setup to position themselves in the center to scam people.  The official wallet isn't ok that's why you have so many users complaining on the XMR thread and exchanges like Cryptsy refused to add it even though it was voted there 1 year ago.

Not much more to say....if you feel like actually dealing with my points let me know...


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: obit33 on May 19, 2015, 02:00:11 PM
Lol, you're becoming the joke dude... stop pretending allright, you'e a dash-cheerleader: https://twitter.com/blockafett

- official wallet is OK, I'm not a tech-savvy guy, but got it working on windows and linux... had no issues making large transactions, never had to enter a payment ID, you're making shit up...
- mtgox at one time had 80%  of all btc-traffic... look how big a fail that was, not... monero is still starting up, kinda normal it's not spread through the whole world...
- never heard the monero dev team say they would become the new elite, they are working on it, albeit slow but thorough, no problem with that...

seems you're the obvious dash-troll here accusing other people of trolling... there are words for this kind of behaviour, like 'pathetic', 'hypocrite', etc... I won't go as far as to calling you these

but go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself in trying to pump dash and kill monero, I wish you good luck sir!

best regards

lol how is posting here helping to pump Dash, one of the top 5 alts, exactly?  The connection with Dash is that's how I met Monero core-dev Smooth while he was in the top 3 trolls on the Dash thread...since then it's more about having a scam shoved in your face and feeling motivated to point out the obvious...

You basically evaded 95% of my points as to why Monero is a hoax/ponzi scheme, off-the-shelf clone with zero actual anonymity / decentralization, and a militant 'dev' team setup to position themselves in the center to scam people.  The official wallet isn't ok that's why you have so many users complaining on the XMR thread and exchanges like Cryptsy refused to add it even though it was voted there 1 year ago.

Not much more to say....if you feel like actually dealing with my points let me know...

95% of your points are based on lies or mis/disinformation...





Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Adderral on May 19, 2015, 02:04:38 PM
So this is how the "new Elite" act? No thanks.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: jwinterm on May 20, 2015, 04:05:43 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 20, 2015, 04:10:29 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

What? 
 
You're telling me if you were a billionaire you wouldn't have a waterfall pool with seven Russian women wearing mermaid costumes, each with a different hair color? 
 
What kind of shitty billionaire are you, anyway?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: necrita on May 20, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
@americanpegasus, you certainly aren't lacking for spirit.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 20, 2015, 05:10:28 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

What? 
 
You're telling me if you were a billionaire you wouldn't have a waterfall pool with seven Russian women wearing mermaid costumes, each with a different hair color? 

No, but to each his own.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 20, 2015, 06:20:22 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

What? 
 
You're telling me if you were a billionaire you wouldn't have a waterfall pool with seven Russian women wearing mermaid costumes, each with a different hair color? 

No, but to each his own.

 
 
Ok, smooth, don't go altruist on me, because if we're playing that game, I'd start up a gifted n' talented orphanage as well. 
 
Strictly from a fun standpoint, what would be your glorious and frivolous joy-spending if you were a billionaire? 
 
Remember that you can spend a million dollars and you won't even feel it.  So what do you do?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 20, 2015, 06:48:24 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

What? 
 
You're telling me if you were a billionaire you wouldn't have a waterfall pool with seven Russian women wearing mermaid costumes, each with a different hair color? 

No, but to each his own.

 
 
Ok, smooth, don't go altruist on me, because if we're playing that game, I'd start up a gifted n' talented orphanage as well. 
 
Strictly from a fun standpoint, what would be your glorious and frivolous joy-spending if you were a billionaire? 
 
Remember that you can spend a million dollars and you won't even feel it.  So what do you do?

Hey one or two Russian women would be okay, but its a big planet, and there are plenty of other women who just might be worthy of a billionaire's attention. I like my harem with a bit less monoculture is all.




Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 20, 2015, 07:47:18 AM

Hey one or two Russian women would be okay, but its a big planet, and there are plenty of other women who just might be worthy of a billionaire's attention. I like my harem with a bit less monoculture is all.


Ahhh, so smooth's pool has a Russian, a Chinese, a Sweede, a Brit, a Brazilian, an Austrailian, and a French woman hanging with him around it. 
 
I see.  You will start your own model U.N.  It's both creative and admirable of you. 
 
That should be much more entertaining than seven blonde Russians, but I'm sticking to the plan.  I've been to this restaurant before, and I know what my favorite thing on the menu is. 
 
https://youtu.be/jn0M9qQJEuw (https://youtu.be/jn0M9qQJEuw)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Este Nuno on May 20, 2015, 09:19:17 AM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
  
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it.  
  
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.  
  
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Lloydimiller4 on May 20, 2015, 05:41:19 PM
man that title could not reek anymore of bagholder, regardless if the market situation
 
 
...
 
I'm a simple a man with simple dreams of a waterfall pool with seven Russian women in mermaid outfits around it. 
 
You, and your Monero hating ass?  Enjoy the bargain bin, sucker.   
 
Tammy and her two shitty kids will always love you for who you are on the inside.

Cheesus you're classy. With all your activity lately here and on reddit and polo, and posts like this, I can't decide if you're a concern troll or just like 14 years old.

I actually like the guy, he's entertaining and excellent at pissing off the Monero haters. Who cares if he makes elitist sounding threads if he truly believes it.
Heck, I even believe it. :P

Pegasus, will your pool be on a mega-yacht, or your own personal skyscraper mansion?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 20, 2015, 10:05:17 PM
Crypto offers an amazing opportunity. 
 
A live beta test of a product, with the only ramifications of failure being the believers of said product.   
 
Monero is brilliant and beautiful, and bitcoin was the same.  It was launched with few promises and a lot of innovation and hope, and the free market quickly tested the shit out of it. 
 
Very soon they found a crippling "game breaking" bug, and it was fixed.  Monero had this happen too. 
 
I'm not implying conspiracy theories, or that any of this was planned, but whether intended or not: this is a live beta test. 
 
Arising from nothing, these currencies live or die on their own two feet and if the worst comes to pass and they are irrevocably broken?  No company, government, or entity bears the massive liability. 
 
On the other hand, if they show resilience and usefulness through the years?  Well, look at bitcoin and what's happening there.  Key government regulators being shuffled around cleverly, businesses and banks slowly adjusting their perspective...   And Monero is only the second crypto to have a chance to do that again. 
 
But this isn't even the beta test.  We are still in alpha, gentlemen.  It all happens here too: 
 
- companies accepting Monero online 
- NASDAQ instituting a Monero index 
- Key regulators and finance VIPs moving into positions associated with/supporting Monero 
- Existing bitcoin infrastructure adopting Monero equally. 
 
...  But the road is long and dark, and full of turns. 
 
Ignore them.  Focus on the city at the end of it, because that is where Monero is headed.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: I am the guy on May 20, 2015, 10:27:51 PM
Crypto offers an amazing opportunity. 
 
A live beta test of a product, with the only ramifications of failure being the believers of said product.   
 
Monero is brilliant and beautiful, and bitcoin was the same.  It was launched with few promises and a lot of innovation and hope, and the free market quickly tested the shit out of it. 
 
Very soon they found a crippling "game breaking" bug, and it was fixed.  Monero had this happen too. 
 
I'm not implying conspiracy theories, or that any of this was planned, but whether intended or not: this is a live beta test. 
 
Arising from nothing, these currencies live or die on their own two feet and if the worst comes to pass and they are irrevocably broken?  No company, government, or entity bears the massive liability. 
 
On the other hand, if they show resilience and usefulness through the years?  Well, look at bitcoin and what's happening there.  Key government regulators being shuffled around cleverly, businesses and banks slowly adjusting their perspective...   And Monero is only the second crypto to have a chance to do that again. 
 
But this isn't even the beta test.  We are still in alpha, gentlemen.  It all happens here too: 
 
- companies accepting Monero online 
- NASDAQ instituting a Monero index 
- Key regulators and finance VIPs moving into positions associated with/supporting Monero 
- Existing bitcoin infrastructure adopting Monero equally. 
 
...  But the road is long and dark, and full of turns. 
 
Ignore them.  Focus on the city at the end of it, because that is where Monero is headed.

How did you discover Monero mr. peg?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 20, 2015, 11:08:43 PM

How did you discover Monero mr. peg?
 
 
I ruthlessly studied crypto, markets, and the altcoin scene for 2 years, reading through the details and communities of a thousand shitcoins. 
 
Also, I picked up on a few context clues from around the Internet. 
 
Also, I'm a fucking winged horse.  I can see farther than others simply by merit of being airborne vs. stuck to the ground.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:11:07 AM
This is why crypto is a joke. Idiots like op make all of us look retarded.

OP has to be BlueMeanie AKA Moneroman88 AKA Josh Zeidner.

This is what he's been doing since his last Monero infiltration scandal.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:13:53 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 21, 2015, 01:19:08 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?

MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 01:20:08 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?
 
  
Hey, everyone get a load of this clown.  He thinks a subreddit is a user account.  
  
Dude, get a clue.  You are a terrible troll, made worse by your bumbling and awful grasp of technology and the Internet.  
  
The reason I am so famous is because I am who I am.  I have no alts, and I am always upfront and honest.  
  
I have been americanpegasus since 2008, when the bitcoin white paper was first published.  
  
Take a break from net trolling for a while, look at some job sites, and figure something out.   You are a terrible troll, and whoever is paying you is throwing money away.  
  
Money they could be using to buy precious, sweet, cheap Monero.    ;)
  


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 01:22:38 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?

MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

 
  
Monero deserves a better class of troll.  
  
And they will arrive, in time.  
  
These third world cretins are small fries compared to the big dogs who will show up later.  *knuckle crack*  
  
Better get warmed up now.  It's gonna get brutal.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:24:01 AM
MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

He was a bad writer on purpose. Josh Zeidner is a great writer on the other hand.



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:26:30 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?
 
  
Hey, everyone get a load of this clown.  He thinks a subreddit is a user account.  


LOL you got me. I meant to say subreddit. You win the grand prize!!


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:28:36 AM
Better get warmed up now.  It's gonna get brutal.

Warmed up for the big dump thats about to happen.

You're about 10 months too late on this shitcoin call.

Edit: I already won a bet predicting the great XMR crash, its tucked away in one of the XMR circlejerk threads for the annals of history.

I suppose you won't believe me unless I posted this:

(edit of edit: removed pic for the sake of decency and a nicely-asked request)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on May 21, 2015, 01:39:19 AM

Actually for once this isn't a MoneroMan88 situation. Americanpegasus is actually a real guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/AmericanPegasus/

He's pretty infamous on /r/Bitcoin and /r/Buttcoin as well if anyone here reads reddit.

His Reddit account was started only 4 months ago. So why can't this flamer be MoneroMan88 again?

MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

 
  
Monero deserves a better class of troll.  
  
And they will arrive, in time.  
  
These third world cretins are small fries compared to the big dogs who will show up later.  *knuckle crack*  
  
Better get warmed up now.  It's gonna get brutal.

In my personal researches, this nutildah is trolling Monero since before I found it.

...
and in respect to saddambitcoin I'm not viewing that.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: mrkavasaki on May 21, 2015, 01:43:10 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 01:44:51 AM

In my personal researches, this nutildah is trolling Monero since before I found it.

...
and in respect to saddambitcoin I'm not viewing that.

To be honest, I didn't view them either. And I feel bad for selling him out to make a point, because he did bother to contact me when I won the bet. Sorry Saddam.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 21, 2015, 01:51:25 AM
MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

He was a bad writer on purpose. Josh Zeidner is a great writer on the other hand.

I don't see a similarity in writing style, and americanpegasus' posts look reasonably consistent at least back to the account creation here in January 2014 (before Monero).

I suppose it's still possible that it was a Josh Z. alt all along, but I don't see any evidence for it.

Considered unlikely for now.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on May 21, 2015, 01:55:51 AM
MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

He was a bad writer on purpose. Josh Zeidner is a great writer on the other hand.

I don't see a similarity in writing style, and americanpegasus' posts look reasonably consistent at least back to the account creation here in January 2014 (before Monero).

I suppose it's still possible that it was a Josh Z. alt all along, but I don't see any evidence for it.

Considered unlikely for now.


Unless Josh Zeidner/MoneroMan88 is bipolar I doubt, he hated my guts and Monero on twitter for correcting him about cryptonote.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 21, 2015, 02:02:23 AM
MoneroMan88 was not a good writer.

He was a bad writer on purpose. Josh Zeidner is a great writer on the other hand.

I don't see a similarity in writing style, and americanpegasus' posts look reasonably consistent at least back to the account creation here in January 2014 (before Monero).

I suppose it's still possible that it was a Josh Z. alt all along, but I don't see any evidence for it.

Considered unlikely for now.


Unless Josh Zeidner/MoneroMan88 is bipolar I doubt, he hated my guts and Monero on twitter for correcting him about cryptonote.

Do we even know that Josh Zeider was MoneroMan88? Because if the source is nutildah or people like him then I'm going to be skeptical of that too.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 02:19:59 AM

I suppose it's still possible that it was a Josh Z. alt all along, but I don't see any evidence for it.

Considered unlikely for now.


It could be a bought account, since that happens a lot here.

I don't know why you would want to claim him on your side though, he's only making you guys look worse.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 02:24:07 AM

Do we even know that Josh Zeider was MoneroMan88? Because if the source is nutildah or people like him then I'm going to be skeptical of that too.


See, now this is exactly the reason why I fucking hate Monerotards. You're trying to cloud what you know to be the truth with fictitious seeds of doubt, seemingly for no apparent reason other than its in your nature to be a pathological liar.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.msg9070742#msg9070742

To quote the great Sputnik a few posts down,

"anyone that needs multiple accounts should tell you all you need to know."


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 02:28:44 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



http://www.reddit.com/user/americanpegasus/  
  
I don't even know who these people you guys are talking about are; it looks like I have some research to do.  I'm sure when Monero started there was a cryptonote shitstorm.  
  
Though my research tells me that Bytecoin was designed to fail, and was the testbed for Monero (which is the cryptonote implementation intended to be successful).


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 21, 2015, 02:31:35 AM

Do we even know that Josh Zeider was MoneroMan88? Because if the source is nutildah or people like him then I'm going to be skeptical of that too.


See, now this is exactly the reason why I fucking hate Monerotards. You're trying to cloud what you know to be the truth with fictitious seeds of doubt, seemingly for no apparent reason other than its in your nature to be a pathological liar.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.msg9070742#msg9070742

To quote the great Sputnik a few posts down,

"anyone that needs multiple accounts should tell you all you need to know."

I don't know any such thing. Didn't pay much attention at the time.

I see a screen shot at that link. I don't consider screen shots proof of anything.



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: mrkavasaki on May 21, 2015, 02:34:22 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



http://www.reddit.com/user/americanpegasus/  
  
I don't even know who these people you guys are talking about are; it looks like I have some research to do.  I'm sure when Monero started there was a cryptonote shitstorm.  
  
Though my research tells me that Bytecoin was designed to fail, and was the testbed for Monero (which is the cryptonote implementation intended to be successful).

proof that you know about bitcoin since 2008 or at least 2010


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on May 21, 2015, 02:43:30 AM

proof that you know about bitcoin since 2008 or at least 2010

What this has to do with anything? lel

Guess there will always be people that dislike or think Monero is a scam for whatever reason, as long they are not disseminating lies I can accept that, reading only what you like to read would be pretty boring.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 02:48:03 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



http://www.reddit.com/user/americanpegasus/  
  
I don't even know who these people you guys are talking about are; it looks like I have some research to do.  I'm sure when Monero started there was a cryptonote shitstorm.  
  
Though my research tells me that Bytecoin was designed to fail, and was the testbed for Monero (which is the cryptonote implementation intended to be successful).

proof that you know about bitcoin since 2008
 
 
Funny enough, as the banks took the bailout money and continued to swing for the fences and get all hot-n-bothered by more wild gambles, I embarked on a putrid study and adventure in the OTC penny stock markets, swinging at pumps, dumps, and all manner of nonsense.  I learned valuable lessons about bid/ask stacks, FUD, hype, and psychology in those days. 
 
A few years later, I learned about options and got into those too.  The first time I heard about bitcoin was in 2011 when it was about $1 each, and I thought it sounded quite silly.  So I ignored it.  People told me my computer could likely mine about a bitcoin a week, and I didn't think that was worth my time (pre-ASIC days).   
 
Finally, by the time the bankers started wising up to what was happening around them, and in 2013, I also became interested in bitcoin proper. 
 
I had dabbled in Dogecoin briefly, which led me to altcoins, and I took my profits from the Dogecoin pump and spent them on 3D Printing options.... but alas, it wasn't time for that yet. 
 
Last November, as bitcoin finally reached critically low price (<$380) I realized what a value it was, and started reading more about it.  Then I had my epiphany: this wasn't just some fancy World of Warcraft gold .... this was the downright future.  I immediately started reading everything I could about it, now that I was finally convinced.  I became obsessed. 
 
They always said I had a learning disability growing up.  I still remember them telling my mom when I was 6 that, "He's not going to be like the other kids.  It's going to take him longer to understand concepts, but once he does, he will understand them better than everyone else combined.  He won't just see the black and white; he'll see the grey too." 
 
This has caused people to discount me all my life, only to regret it once I finally *got* whatever the subject matter is.  And I'm telling you: I now understand crypto.
 
Maybe not the minute details, nor the errata of elliptic curve cryptography (though I am filling in the gaps there too), but I can see the whole picture.  I see the technology, the people, the governments, the businesses, and the banks and what's going to happen to all of them.  It's like a beautiful spiral to me, and I can see it as clearly as a movie playing on a screen in front of me. 
 
So forgive my euphoria, because crypto wins
 
And now I found Monero.  I'm used to Scrypt Clones and shitcoins..  But this is something different.  Very different. 
 
This is.... well, I'm not going to reveal everything I've learned, but the fog of the future for Monero is rapidly clearing itself for me as well.  And pretty soon I'll be able to see the future of Monero as well, just like I've done for the personal computer, the internet, Google, the iPhone, Netflix, and bitcoin itself. 
 
This is my talent.  This is what I do. 
 
And I am fucking good at it.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: mrkavasaki on May 21, 2015, 03:00:09 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



http://www.reddit.com/user/americanpegasus/  
  
I don't even know who these people you guys are talking about are; it looks like I have some research to do.  I'm sure when Monero started there was a cryptonote shitstorm.  
  
Though my research tells me that Bytecoin was designed to fail, and was the testbed for Monero (which is the cryptonote implementation intended to be successful).

proof that you know about bitcoin since 2008
 
 
Funny enough, as the banks took the bailout money and continued to swing for the fences and get all hot-n-bothered by more wild gambles, I embarked on a putrid study and adventure in the OTC penny stock markets, swinging at pumps, dumps, and all manner of nonsense.  I learned valuable lessons about bid/ask stacks, FUD, hype, and psychology in those days. 
 
A few years later, I learned about options and got into those too.  The first time I heard about bitcoin was in 2011 when it was about $1 each, and I thought it sounded quite silly.  So I ignored it.  People told me my computer could likely mine about a bitcoin a week, and I didn't think that was worth my time (pre-ASIC days).   
 
Finally, by the time the bankers started wising up to what was happening around them, and in 2013, I also became interested in bitcoin proper. 
 
I had dabbled in Dogecoin briefly, which led me to altcoins, and I took my profits from the Dogecoin pump and spent them on 3D Printing options.... but alas, it wasn't time for that yet. 
 
Last November, as bitcoin finally reached critically low price (<$380) I realized what a value it was, and started reading more about it.  Then I had my epiphany: this wasn't just some fancy World of Warcraft gold .... this was the downright future.  I immediately started reading everything I could about it, now that I was finally convinced.  I became obsessed. 
 
They always said I had a learning disability growing up.  I still remember them telling my mom when I was 6 that, "He's not going to be like the other kids.  It's going to take him longer to understand concepts, but once he does, he will understand them better than everyone else combined.  He won't just see the black and white; he'll see the grey too." 
 
This has caused people to discount me all my life, only to regret it once I finally *got* whatever the subject matter is.  And I'm telling you: I now understand crypto.
 
Maybe not the minute details, nor the errata of elliptic curve cryptography (though I am filling in the gaps there too), but I can see the whole picture.  I see the technology, the people, the governments, the businesses, and the banks and what's going to happen to all of them.  It's like a beautiful spiral to me, and I can see it as clearly as a movie playing on a screen in front of me. 
 
So forgive my euphoria, because crypto wins
 
And now I found Monero.  I'm used to Scrypt Clones and shitcoins..  But this is something different.  Very different. 
 
This is.... well, I'm not going to reveal everything I've learned, but the fog of the future for Monero is rapidly clearing itself for me as well.  And pretty soon I'll be able to see the future of Monero as well, just like I've done for the personal computer, the internet, Google, the iPhone, Netflix, and bitcoin itself. 
 
This is my talent.  This is what I do. 
 
And I am fucking good at it.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
Ii seems that you are just an "average"


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on May 21, 2015, 03:06:15 AM

I see a screen shot at that link. I don't consider screen shots proof of anything.


That's because you are straight retarded.

Good luck with your scamcoin.

Did the forum mods/admin verify it?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 03:23:10 AM
I have been americanpegasus since 2008

source? proof?



http://www.reddit.com/user/americanpegasus/  
  
I don't even know who these people you guys are talking about are; it looks like I have some research to do.  I'm sure when Monero started there was a cryptonote shitstorm.  
  
Though my research tells me that Bytecoin was designed to fail, and was the testbed for Monero (which is the cryptonote implementation intended to be successful).

proof that you know about bitcoin since 2008
 
 
This is my talent.  This is what I do. 
 
And I am fucking good at it.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
Ii seems that you are just an "average"
 
 
You actually read all that? 
 
Even I didn't pay attention to most of it.  Get with the program.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on May 21, 2015, 03:26:02 AM

I see a screen shot at that link. I don't consider screen shots proof of anything.


That's because you are straight retarded.

Good luck with your scamcoin.
 
 
Hey, nutildah, I found a "history of Monero" video for you.  You see that guy in the white shirt with the shades?  Getting up and walking away at the beginning?  That's you.
 
https://youtu.be/fW8amMCVAJQ (https://youtu.be/fW8amMCVAJQ)
 


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: I am the guy on May 21, 2015, 04:13:35 AM
who is this mr. peg guy? ???


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on May 21, 2015, 06:50:18 AM
who is this mr. peg guy? ???


He's the shirtless guy dancing alone, the Monero Devs (innovators) are the event coordinators, and early adopters are the music.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BagHolder010 on May 21, 2015, 07:18:11 AM
This is becoming a real joke guys.

Monero's "profound" technology - Off-the-shelf CryptoNote copied in from Bytecoin including the crippled miner code which Monero launched and then said they didn't realize the miner was scammed.  After 1 year of "development" the official wallet is still a horrific mess that takes a week to sync and has inherent major issues with dust, blockchain bloat, large transactions failing, they didn't work out how to add a GUI either even though CryptoNote (the actually innovators) made them one for free..and exchanges won't implement based on how unstable the wallet is and that every transaction needs the user to enter a seperate payment ID causing a support melt-down - The basic system doesn't work.

Monero is decentralized / anonymous - With how shit the wallet is, new blood on the Monero forum get funneled quickly into MyMonero.com, a web wallet operated by the lead dev Fluffy Pony.  This gives Fluffy (and his ISP etc) access to all XMR transactions, users and their IPs who use the web wallet, which is the only viable 'official' wallet for most users. And it went down recently so no one could withdraw XMR and Fluffy's solution was 'Sorry it went down while I was in bed, for support, call me on the mobile, i will leave it on now'.  Kind of strange for the most anonymous / decentralized coin?  Except he has done this before when he tried to raise $200k from Vertcoin investors for Vertpay.com.  And he is working on his next installment PayBee.com coming soon.....These are the Monero lead dev's development priorities while the official wallet still is unstable and has no GUI after 1 year.. ???  

Secondly, 95% of XMR volume is going through Poloniex, which now requires your name and address before you can withdraw coins (and obviously knows everyone's IP and balance / transactions).  So between MyMonero and Poloniex, in reality, Monero is almost totally centralized and delivering zero anonymity which is why no one is actually using it

Great dev team - Spend most of their time goading a small core of deluded Monero investors to believe that a clone-coin with zero development that after 1 year they can't work out how to finish, will replace bitcoin.  Stemming from there this cult goes out around BCT attacking anyone designated by Fluffy / Smooth as "a scam" which is each competitor.  Totally dishonest with their community in their "pump talk" about 10,000 XMR pizzas and how they will be the new elite lol, when in fact as a clone coin with the innovation done out-of-house, anyone else cloning Bytecoin that does a slightly better job (like make a usable wallet) and Monero's value based on "innovation" evaporates, and they are just left with a "good community" or rather "the most agressive / toxic community in alts right now" as I see it...the fact something this obvious is never mentioned and instead the devs themselves go around trying to kill or takeover the competition to eliminate this possibility instead of developing, is what makes Monero essentially an elaborate hoax / ponzi scheme operated through BCT, Poloniex and a constant supply of either pump talk or FUDing the competition.

How long before you realize no one wants your sh*tcoin, stop trolling BCT.  You should be being humble and going to make a basic wallet work, you have to earn value through work not through typing propaganda and bullshit all day.......................

REKT LOL,......this is what Monero developers get for attacking other real project's or even developers instead of doing some actually work. The only thing the Monero Developers know about crypto is to CRY"P"TO about it here on how other coins are bad.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: nutildah on May 21, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
This is becoming a real joke guys.

(removed contents of great post for concision)

How long before you realize no one wants your sh*tcoin, stop trolling BCT.  You should be being humble and going to make a basic wallet work, you have to earn value through work not through typing propaganda and bullshit all day.......................

REKT LOL,......this is what Monero developers get for attacking other real project's or even developers instead of doing some actually work. The only thing the Monero Developers know about crypto is to CRY"P"TO about it here on how other coins are bad.

Baaaam!

https://i.imgur.com/uA88yMZ.gif


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: bitbets on May 21, 2015, 06:27:58 PM
 
got a link to some info about monero?

My initial impression it is a non-english name for the coin.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on May 21, 2015, 06:42:32 PM

got a link to some info about monero?

My initial impression it is a non-english name for the coin.

It's Esperanto. Here's a good start:   

https://monero.org

https://forum.getmonero.org

https://moneroeconomy.com


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on July 26, 2015, 01:56:50 AM
Well it's been a couple of months.  
  
Things are slow on the Monero development front, but the price has remained stable.  
  
I'm still plugging along, buying what Monero I can with my extra income and encouraging crypto-enthusaists to do the same.  In an image that will surely be historic one day, we sit in 6th place behind a few unworthy opponents with some shining exceptions:  
  
https://i.imgur.com/XYZNGA7.png  
  
The only thing that would make me change my mind on Monero is a vastly superior technology hitting the crypto scene or a few years passing without any adoption increase or development (in which case the Monero I bought will be a total loss, but I'm prepared to accept that risk).
  
In the meantime social media awareness of Monero is slowly growing, and hopefully people will adopt quickly during the speculation phase instead of sitting on the sidelines like I did with bitcoin.  Sometimes we know something good when we see it, but are scared to commit.  I would hope that no one else has to experience that pain when they see Monero achieve near 1:1 parity with bitcoin in the coming years, knowing they could have had it for thousandths of a bitcoin.  
  
On the other hand, if I'm wrong?  Oh well, I lost the equivalent of a really, really righteous vacation in Las Vegas.  I can't think of a better gamble in the world right now, and I can get drunk on comp'd drinks right here in my living room.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: futureofbitcoin on July 26, 2015, 02:48:39 AM
Well it's been a couple of months.  
  
Things are slow on the Monero development front, but the price has remained stable.  
  
I'm still plugging along, buying what Monero I can with my extra income and encouraging crypto-enthusaists to do the same.  In an image that will surely be historic one day, we sit in 6th place behind a few unworthy opponents with some shining exceptions:  
  
https://i.imgur.com/XYZNGA7.png  
  
The only thing that would make me change my mind on Monero is a vastly superior technology hitting the crypto scene or a few years passing without any adoption increase or development (in which case the Monero I bought will be a total loss, but I'm prepared to accept that risk).
  
In the meantime social media awareness of Monero is slowly growing, and hopefully people will adopt quickly during the speculation phase instead of sitting on the sidelines like I did with bitcoin.  Sometimes we know something good when we see it, but are scared to commit.  I would hope that no one else has to experience that pain when they see Monero achieve near 1:1 parity with bitcoin in the coming years, knowing they could have had it for thousandths of a bitcoin.  
  
On the other hand, if I'm wrong?  Oh well, I lost the equivalent of a really, really righteous vacation in Las Vegas.  I can't think of a better gamble in the world right now, and I can get drunk on comp'd drinks right here in my living room.
what website did you get that from?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on July 26, 2015, 02:52:33 AM
what website did you get that from?

Oops: Coin Gecko sorted by their own ranking system and in terms of US Dollars.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on July 26, 2015, 03:09:14 AM
Well it's been a couple of months.  
  
Things are slow on the Monero development front, but the price has remained stable.  
  
I'm still plugging along, buying what Monero I can with my extra income and encouraging crypto-enthusaists to do the same.  In an image that will surely be historic one day, we sit in 6th place behind a few unworthy opponents with some shining exceptions:  
  
https://i.imgur.com/XYZNGA7.png  
  



Bragging about being in sixth place crypto marketwise is equivalent to bragging about your site ranking top of page 8 in the Google index.



~BCX~


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on July 26, 2015, 03:17:12 AM



Bragging about being in sixth place crypto marketwise is equivalent to bragging about your site ranking top of page 8 in the Google index.



~BCX~
 
 
Dude if my website showed up on Page 8 of Google, I could register for a badge to CES each year. 
 
That would be fucking sweet.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on July 26, 2015, 03:17:33 AM
Well it's been a couple of months.  
  
Things are slow on the Monero development front, but the price has remained stable.  
  
I'm still plugging along, buying what Monero I can with my extra income and encouraging crypto-enthusaists to do the same.  In an image that will surely be historic one day, we sit in 6th place behind a few unworthy opponents with some shining exceptions:  
  
https://i.imgur.com/XYZNGA7.png  
  



Bragging about being in sixth place crypto marketwise is equivalent to bragging about your site ranking top of page 8 in the Google index.



~BCX~

If you time-warp back a few months, you'll see that it's heading in the right direction--which I think is AP's point. Who knows, maybe someone will attack it again and prove how well it scales--that could bump it a couple more spots. Let's hope.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Nxtblg on July 26, 2015, 03:09:04 PM
In the meantime social media awareness of Monero is slowly growing, and hopefully people will adopt quickly during the speculation phase instead of sitting on the sidelines like I did with bitcoin.  Sometimes we know something good when we see it, but are scared to commit.

That was exactly the case with Bitcoin and me. I first heard about Bitcoin after the '11 Mt. Gox hack, via the Ludwig von Mises Institute blog. Back then, they were against Bitcoin in favour of gold. I saw the evangelists do their thing in the comments, and I figured that Bitcoin was well worth putting some serious money into. So I lurked on Bitcointalk for a while, looking for how to protect against thieves, and saw advice about passwords and cold-walleting. But I also saw mentions of password-stealing keylogger malware, and that freaked me out. It freaked me out to the point where I not only lost my common sense (i.e., why would someone target little old me?) but also lost my "think." It didn't occur to me to search for an anti-keylogger security solution, and my skeered did overwhelm me from signing up to Bitcointalk back in late May of '11 and asking for help on the issue. To be honest, it was only my stinkin' pride that deterred me: I didn't want to come across as a "nervous Nellie."

Sure, I've had "those" fantasies, but I've got 'em pegged as such. :)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: aleix on July 26, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
Cross-posting FYI (Monero and his official forum, some facts about the work they are doing):


No. The reality is that you have no community, no development, no markerting. It's not me saying, you can check it here:

Work in progress (http://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress) -> 3 threads

Funding Required (http://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required) -> 2 threads


You don't have any "Developers Thread" or "testing" area. Nothing. In Academic and technical (https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical) you have only 9 threads!!!!

You are an absolute fraud. It's good that the real investors do some research, Monero is only a big hype.

Keep spamming, trolling and fudding hard the competition. That's the only you can do.



Please stay on topic; Where is your stuff? Development, testing, marketing, something?

You are telling me you have only your "we are superior" thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

And the speculation thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

That's it? All the rest is fudding and spam?

My God.

 :D  :D   :D   :D   :D   :D

Do not believe the Monero hype. Do your own research.

For more info please visit: http://forum.getmonero.org


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on July 26, 2015, 10:35:12 PM
Cross-posting FYI (Monero and his official forum, some facts about the work they are doing):


No. The reality is that you have no community, no development, no markerting. It's not me saying, you can check it here:

Work in progress (http://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress) -> 3 threads

Funding Required (http://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required) -> 2 threads


You don't have any "Developers Thread" or "testing" area. Nothing. In Academic and technical (https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical) you have only 9 threads!!!!

You are an absolute fraud. It's good that the real investors do some research, Monero is only a big hype.

Keep spamming, trolling and fudding hard the competition. That's the only you can do.



Please stay on topic; Where is your stuff? Development, testing, marketing, something?

You are telling me you have only your "we are superior" thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

And the speculation thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

That's it? All the rest is fudding and spam?

My God.

 :D  :D   :D   :D   :D   :D

Do not believe the Monero hype. Do your own research.

For more info please visit: http://forum.getmonero.org

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits/master

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: aleix on July 26, 2015, 10:52:34 PM

Ok. And I repeat: to the lurkers/potential Monero investors do your own research, do not believe in threads or hype like this (op main post):

Quote
What are you going to do with your Monero wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop?

And the Monero people don't have a real working forum to work in his own currency. Go figure.  :D



(excuse my grammar and vocabulary mistakes, english is my third language)


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: generalizethis on July 26, 2015, 11:00:58 PM

Ok. And I repeat: to the lurkers/potential Monero investors do your own research, do not believe in threads or hype like this (op main post):

Quote
What are you going to do with your Monero wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop?

And the Monero people don't have a real working forum to work in his own currency. Go figure.  :D



(excuse my grammar and vocabulary mistakes, english is my third language)

The forum works fine. Just more traffic here on BCT, on r/monero and on github--I just go to that forum to find specific information and check on funding initiatives. Not sure why you think that is Monero's Achilles's heel, but I don't get a lot of things about dash supporters.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: whap on July 26, 2015, 11:37:59 PM

Ok. And I repeat: to the lurkers/potential Monero investors do your own research, do not believe in threads or hype like this (op main post):

Quote
What are you going to do with your Monero wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop?

And the Monero people don't have a real working forum to work in his own currency. Go figure.  :D



(excuse my grammar and vocabulary mistakes, english is my third language)

Thanks for your advice, any potential investor should be intelligent enough to do some research before investing in an asset or coin. This counts for Monero as well as for your favorite Anon-coin, I know there is a Love-Hate relationship between them but honestly, you should listen to your advice as well and do that research then.

There you will find that within the last 2 weeks, the community officially donated roughly 9000 XMR via the forum integrated funding system to fund a chinese translator and a part time developer(MoneroMoooo), with developers even contributing to it.
You also seem to have overlooked the incredible optimization work done by NoodleDoodle 12 days ago
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/337

as well as smooths statement, why not every github commit is obviously shown in the commit list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg11969040#msg11969040

People seem to forget that this is an open source project with NO ipo/pre/ninja/instamine like other coins whose devs can commit to it fulltime.

But then again, your agenda seems obvious. You're only interested in making Monero look bad because you are invested in another coin...and maybe afraid you could have chosen the wrong train. I don't care, and you shouldn't either. Make a decision and live with, it's that simple. But trying to descredit others with vague, personal assumptions is just desperately wimpy.

BTW i am no fan of this Thread AP, i respectfully welcome your efforts and ambition on Monero, but as you can see people get really butthurt about any XMR related topic here. Maybe we carry this over to r/monero?



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on July 26, 2015, 11:40:05 PM

Ok. And I repeat: to the lurkers/potential Monero investors do your own research, do not believe in threads or hype like this (op main post):

Quote
What are you going to do with your Monero wealth once your coins hit upwards of $10,000 a pop?

And the Monero people don't have a real working forum to work in his own currency. Go figure.  :D



(excuse my grammar and vocabulary mistakes, english is my third language)

The forum works fine. Just more traffic here on BCT, on r/monero and on github--I just go to that forum to find specific information and check on funding initiatives. Not sure why you think that is Monero's Achilles's heel, but I don't get a lot of things about dash supporters.

Also there is plenty of developer discussion on #monero-dev on freenode every day.

PS. I don't care who is butthurt, especially not scam coin supporters put off by the (to them) appalling precedent of an honestly launched coin doing good work. Don't be mislead about what they are upset about.

QFTFT:


Ah fuck, a Dash owner. Should have known.

It's weird. I remember when Darkcoin was labelling Litecoin 'the most toxic community in the cryptospace'. And I remember thinking, why? What has Litecoin ever done to deserve that title? Charlie Lee is a good guy, LTC was fairly launched with no instamine, it changed the algorythm for the better, had a grassroots orientated ethic where everyone had to contribute to make it work, set against the backdrop of a genuinely hostile BTC crowd - what did Litecoin ever do to deserve that mantra from Darkcoin?

Why is it always seemingly the good projects, I wondered, that get attacked so.

And here we are again, Darkcoin aka Dash once again labelling the taxon 'toxic community' to another fairly launched project, also with a credible collective of good-intentioned developers, honest tech that works and is endorsed and contributed to by some of the most respectable people in the industry.

What is it I wonder about Dash that makes it so antagonistic of fairly launched grassroots projects?

Is it perhaps a kind of psychological denial that's projected outward in view of the hideous 50% instamine that props the entire enterprise up? Perhaps it's the embarrassing cult-like dictat that surrounds thy great leader, Evan Duffield, who is able to afford 'great achievements' for his pot-smoking subordinates.

Dash is quite possibly one of the worst projects I've ever encountered, and I'm not joking when I say that I've yet to meet a Dash owner who is not a brain-dead twat.

If that's toxic, then I apologise on your behalf. Because if calling out a project for being absolute bullshit (and yes, that does indeed include snake-oil) makes me a cunt, then let it be so.

Because I would much much rather be labelled toxic for speaking the truth, than suffer the taxon of being a part of the most ignorant, passive, suck-cocky, college-doofused plastic-politicked twatstain of a retard community that is Dash, that seemingly doesn't have the brains to understand cryptography, nor the balls to stand-up for what is right.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: kazuki49 on July 26, 2015, 11:47:24 PM


what you are saying has some half-value, always research, but the way you are saying implies Monero has something to hide like *coff coff* a massive instamine and non-features like "Dash"/Darkcoin :D that also tried to steal the name of another cryptonote coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0).

https://i.imgur.com/9LEGLyM.png



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: whap on July 27, 2015, 12:19:56 AM

PS. I don't care who is butthurt, especially not scam coin supporters put off by the (to them) appalling precedent of an honestly launched coin doing good work. Don't be mislead about what they are upset about.


If i was to compare you Devs with the A-Team, i'd say you are B.A. then  8)
You are right here, i'm only pointing out that the more threads we create, the more space there is to attack. And that only consumes time and resources, but we get literally nothing. 2 Threads should definately be enough, then probably much less people should be pissed off because of their "inability" to ignore them.
Anyway, there are more important things to hassle with.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: smooth on July 27, 2015, 12:26:38 AM

PS. I don't care who is butthurt, especially not scam coin supporters put off by the (to them) appalling precedent of an honestly launched coin doing good work. Don't be mislead about what they are upset about.


If i was to compare you Devs with the A-Team, i'd say you are B.A. then  8)
You are right here, i'm only pointing out that the more threads we create, the more space there is to attack. And that only consumes time and resources, but we get literally nothing. 2 Threads should definately be enough, then probably much less people should be pissed off because of their "inability" to ignore them.
Anyway, there are more important things to hassle with.

I'm not encouraging more threads. But I'm sure not going to get upset about them just because a bunch of altcoin-community den-of-scoundrels-and-thieves members are upset about them either. Just remember, the average altcoin is a complete scam. Hell the 90th percentile altcoin is still a complete scam. Maybe at 99-percentile you get to some that are only partially scams. That's the population you are dealing with here.



Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: rdnkjdi on July 27, 2015, 05:55:47 AM
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Maybe at 99-percentile you get to some that are only partially scams. That's the population you are dealing with here.

^ this.

Monero may be the altcoin of arrogant, rich, asshole early adopters - but it isn't a scam.  The pump accusations need to take a hard look at the emissions schedule to see it's pure stupidity to make that accusation.

Half the threads are from pro-monero knucklehead trolls.  Other half are from anti Monero trolls.  

At the end of the day I still have more use for trolls (pro & anti) than scammers.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: americanpegasus on March 03, 2016, 05:14:26 PM
Wow guys, so it's been 9 months and look how far we've come!  The LMDB is done and the GUI is right around the corner.  As well, Monero is flirting with dollar parity!  This is something that we only dreamed of this time last year.  :) 
 
Here's to 2016 being a banner year for Monero.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: TrueCryptonaire on March 03, 2016, 05:40:41 PM
Things are looking good and the future in front of us is looking bright.
Marketcapwise the potential of xmr is in trillions of dollars rather than billions. It is global and better than btc not to mention to fiat.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: stoat on March 03, 2016, 05:43:50 PM
You two complete jokers still flogging that dead horse?


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: TrueCryptonaire on March 03, 2016, 05:49:03 PM
You two complete jokers still flogging that dead horse?

You are an obvious troll and I should not feed you but if you make such a fantastic claim xmr is dead, please bring evidence to back your statement, otherwise you are not been taken seriously.


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: stoat on March 03, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
You two complete jokers still flogging that dead horse?

You are an obvious troll and I should not feed you but if you make such a fantastic claim xmr is dead, please bring evidence to back your statement, otherwise you are not been taken seriously.

It's gone sideways for years.  It is not increasing in value and shows no signs of doing so significantly. Therefore it's an unattractive investment.

The founders are also big chunky overweight people.  I prefer my crypto to be founded by slim people with a healthy bmi


Title: Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
Post by: Perancho on March 03, 2016, 06:07:21 PM
Please show me JUST ONE person who use Monero in black market.
That is exactly the point of Monero, to hide the person using it!