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The media and a group of people really think that a flight attendant wanting to open a diet coke for a Muslim woman is already a hate crime

She is really making an issue about the flight attendant giving an unopened can to another passenger.
Discrimination based on religion, according to the Muslim woman.

Since the Quran has a number of active violence directives within it, who is the person who has the right to deny the violent Muslims when they express that they are Muslims?

After all, even the peaceful Muslims suggest that the violence in the Quran is merely defensive. And isn't this the thing that the violent Muslims are saying as well? Aren't they saying that they are defending their lands and people and religion through their violence? What gives the peaceful Muslims the right to deny the violent Muslims the right to use their defensive violence, since the peaceful Muslims also cling to the idea of the use of defensive violence?

No!  Rather, block Islam from expanding. Block it before the violence acts on you.

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How is that already considered a discrimination? And where is the discrimination in there? In the can of diet coke? There are a lot of issues towards hate and racism that should be focused and be on the headlines rather than a silly coke issue. How about the human trafficking scene? There are loads of issues, more important than this can of diet coke issue.

I disagree on this one mate .
You probably have no knowledge in Quran and simply say what the media says or just read a Translated copy of Quran made with Googl translation or something because Quran have no active violence directives at all . Islam is a peaceful religion, also we go back to the Taliban , Al Qaeda & ISIS which are all made by CIA or MI6 or Mossad (or all of them) leaders are made by those intelligence agencies then they recruit some fucked up retarded people who don't know anything about Islam and that's how it works . why ? well they simply don't like Islam because it's peaceful and they want to destroy muslim countries and take oil (Lybia , Iraq) now attacks on Arabic Saoudia etc ...

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families.  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The word used instead, "fitna",  can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).  According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."  

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"  

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

 

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."  In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.  This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

 

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.  Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force.  This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.  

 

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

 

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

 

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

 

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

 

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.  And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

 

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

 

Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

 

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

 

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

 

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

 

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

 

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.  His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

 

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...  When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

 

Bukhari 1:35  "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

 

Tabari 7:97  The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."  Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam.  Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.  An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

 

Tabari 9:69  "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"  The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

 

Tabari 17:187  "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion."  The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.  The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

 

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

 

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

 

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."  Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

 

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship."  One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries.  The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims.  Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

I disagree on this one mate .
You probably have no knowledge in Quran and simply say what the media says or just read a Translated copy of Quran made with Googl translation or something because Quran have no active violence directives at all . Islam is a peaceful religion, also we go back to the Taliban , Al Qaeda & ISIS which are all made by CIA or MI6 or Mossad (or all of them) leaders are made by those intelligence agencies then they recruit some fucked up retarded people who don't know anything about Islam and that's how it works . why ? well they simply don't like Islam because it's peaceful and they want to destroy muslim countries and take oil (Lybia , Iraq) now attacks on Arabic Saoudia etc ...

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You probably have no knowledge in Quran and simply say what the media says or just read a Translated copy of Quran made with Googl translation or something because Quran have no active violence directives at all . Islam is a peaceful religion, also we go back to the Taliban , Al Qaeda & ISIS which are all made by CIA or MI6 or Mossad (or all of them) leaders are made by those intelligence agencies then they recruit some fucked up retarded people who don't know anything about Islam and that's how it works . why ? well they simply don't like Islam because it's peaceful and they want to destroy muslim countries and take oil (Lybia , Iraq) now attacks on Arabic Saoudia etc ...

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

Can a muslim be accused of islamophobia?

Can a muslim be accused of islamophobia?

How is it not discrimination? The flight attendant didn't have any problem with the other passengers. Gave one an unopened can of beer in front of the muslim woman. Funny the article didn't say anything about that. Or about the other passenger's reactions. And how one insulted her and repeated that she would use the can as a weapon: http://rt.com/usa/263653-united-airlines-muslim-coke

I think the United Airlines PR has already apologized to Tahera Ahmad for the behavior of its staff. May be its time to put the issue behind and move on, rather than adding fuel to the fire.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

You are right, this was very good example of discrimination against Muslim.
In fact, what makes the situation even worse is the reaction of other passengers, who showed open hostility and hatred towards this lady.
It seems that this situation, better than all the words and declarations, shows the prevailing trend in the general population of America.
The people are so brainwashed by the media that every Muslim is seen as a potential enemy and terrorists.
What happened to America, a leader of democracy and human rights in the world?
Unfortunately, America is really changed since 2001 and became intolerant and hateful towards differences in religion, race, nationality etc.
Yes, Islamophobia has never killed anyone but kill the character and soul of people.

Wait a minute.  You mean if some Muslim wants to hide their face uner their hijab, I can't hide my coke cans under my cart?

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

You are right, this was very good example of discrimination against Muslim.
In fact, what makes the situation even worse is the reaction of other passengers, who showed open hostility and hatred towards this lady.
It seems that this situation, better than all the words and declarations, shows the prevailing trend in the general population of America.....

Wonderful news. Remember that she is working as the Northwestern University chaplain. I can only guess how many people will be brainwashed by her Jihadi rhetoric. The Americans will never learn from any of their past mistakes. I thought that they'll change for the better after the Boston attacks. Seems like I was being over-optimistic.

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Rat burger...

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....)  

Islamophobia death are also part of our western society, many death were reported as Islamophobia, but being it media or goverment, police whatever, will always filled it under something else such as mental issues, a fight of some sort ..

To resume, this article is none sense and simply trash with no journalistic ethics aka putting up a decent argumentation with proofs, and the source is even worse just read the trash they are posting, so the whole discussion in this thread doesn't make sense at all

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....) 

OK.. let me take it one by one.

Central African Republic: First, the Muslim Séléka massacred thousands of Christians, and in retaliation, the Anti-balaka fighters drove Muslims out of CAR.

Myanmar: The Muslim Rohingya raped and murdered two Buddhist women in 2012. In retaliation, there were widespread anti-Rohingya riots in the Rakhine state.

Cambodia: Muslims face no issues here right now

Bosnia: There was a civil war, in which the mostly Muslim Bosniaks were fighting the mostly Christian Serbs. Both sides committed massacres.

I don't think that any of these incidents can be taken as examples for Islamophobia.

How funny your partial take on the events :

Central Africa, the Seleka group you are talking about was officially disbanded before the Anti Balaka muslim cleansing begin So no you are totally wrong, not only that but Muslims are the minority hence they are in the receiving end .

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

Cambodia : I clearly said "in recent right or happening right now" the 70s and 80s are not too far off.

Bosnia : there were probably death on both fighting camps, and I'm not talking about, you obviously know and trying to avoid the fact that there was Ethnic cleansing by Serbs Orthodox towards muslims.  Srebrenica events .

When you kill thousands of people because they follow a religion when the only reason to massacre thousands of people (each of these events lead to the death of thousands of muslims ) just because they are muslim is no INCIDENT

By all means bring evidence to refute, fully or partially, the premise of the first post.  However, please look at the dead and wounded count for last month alone at front page www.thereligionofpeace.com.

Over 3200 dead LAST MONTH ALONE???  So if you show historical evidence of events that led to deaths of thousands of muslims, what is one to think?  That Islam is outdoing such events on pretty much a weekly basis?

2015.06.07 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Five people are shot to death in Sunni raids on two tea shops belonging to the Hazara religious minority.
2015.06.07 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) - Boko Haram bombers turn an outdoor market into a mass of blood and body parts.
2015.06.06 (Balad Ruz, Iraq) - A suicide car bomber lays out fifteen patrons at a restaurant district.
2015.06.06 (Wajir, Somalia) - An Islamist opens fire on a group of people, killing three - including a woman.
2015.06.06 (Maluso, Philippines) - A man is captured and beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.06.04 (Fallujah, Iraq) - Two more gay men are thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.

How funny your partial take on the events :

Central Africa, the Seleka group you are talking about was officially disbanded before the Anti Balaka muslim cleansing begin So no you are totally wrong, not only that but Muslims are the minority hence they are in the receiving end .

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

Cambodia : I clearly said "in recent right or happening right now" the 70s and 80s are not too far off.

Bosnia : there were probably death on both fighting camps, and I'm not talking about, you obviously know and trying to avoid the fact that there was Ethnic cleansing by Serbs Orthodox towards muslims.  Srebrenica events .

The Seleka were disbanded. But the remnants formed a militia named "Ex-Seleka" and tried to exterminate the Christians (despite Muslims accounting for just 10% of the population). The Christians retaliated in kind.

People got tired of the endless number of rapes and murders committed by the Rohingya. And both the sides lost people during the conflict.

The Khmer Rogue regime murdered some 2 million people. Out of that, only a small fraction were the Muslims.

Ethnic cleansing was practiced by both the sides during the Bosnian conflict. Some 40,000 Serbs were massacred by the Muslims.

Evidence? I've just gave you events (that are factual) in which Muslims were killed out of pure Islamophobia what do you want more?

So what's your point here? Muslims do kill other muslims? and I don't think I ever stated the opposite but You are claiming Homophobia has never killed anyone, and you were proven wrong, now you are derailing to something else.

Of course one does not excuse the other, but stick to the whole point of your thread, there are many thread discussing these events and how some muslims groups are murderers.

So now it's not Seleka but the remaining militia, Ok except the flaw once again in your logic is that Anti-Balaka been killing Muslims for years and the killing just intensified after Seleka disbanded, and that's not even the issues, I'm not talking about Selekas vs Anti Balaka ie militia fights, I'm talking about the Anti Balaka masacring children women, and peacefull people, even the UN is warning of the massacre.

Once again, no such thing was documented, Some of the Monks gave such excuxes to rally people without a single proof, the Islamophobia runs deep in some monks, and the felling came from Sri Linka events. According to many international instances the Muslim population is Maynmar was of peacefull and never done anything to get what they are getting

On the evening of 28 May, a group of Muslim men robbed, raped and murdered an ethnic Rakhine woman, Ma Thida Htwe, near her village Tha Pri Chaung on May 28 in 2012, when she was returning home from Kyauk Ni Maw Village of Rambree township.

The Khmer Rouges were indeed xenophobic and killed foreigners and this is a fact, but I'm talking about the fact they killed their own Muslims just because they are muslims within their population which is definitly an Islamophobic act,  One does not stop from being the other

I think you are confusing the number around 40.000-50.000 (the highest estimates talks about 60000) were the total amount of Serbs casualties military and civilians, which mostly were Serbian Muslims, how can the whole number be at the same time the number of Serbs massacred by Muslims ???  For reference just the Srebrenica massacre alone account for 8000-10000  in the laps of 3 DAYS....

You seems to be indulging in a campaign of disinformation. The Anti-Balaka was formed in 2013, after the ex-Seleka started the killings of innocent Christians.

Once again, no such thing was documented, Some of the Monks gave such excuxes to rally people without a single proof, the Islamophobia runs deep in some monks, and the felling came from Sri Linka events. According to many international instances the Muslim population is Maynmar was of peacefull and never done anything to get what they are getting

May be you should go through this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Rakhine_State_riots

People got tired of the endless number of rapes and murders committed by the Rohingya. And both the sides lost people during the conflict.

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

The Khmer Rouges were indeed xenophobic and killed foreigners and this is a fact, but I'm talking about the fact they killed their own Muslims just because they are muslims within their population which is definitly an Islamophobic act,  One does not stop from being the other

95% of the people killed by the Khmer Rogue was Buddhist. So your argument is invalid.

Serbian Muslims? The Muslims in Bosnia are Serbs, who converted to Islam from Orthodoxy during the Ottoman rule. They are now known as Bosnian Muslims. There were no Muslims among the Bosnian Serbs. So please don't lie here.

The Khmer Rouges were indeed xenophobic and killed foreigners and this is a fact, but I'm talking about the fact they killed their own Muslims just because they are muslims within their population which is definitly an Islamophobic act,  One does not stop from being the other

Euh? So far, and as proven above if anyone is lying here that would be you, but let's keep this discussion civil shall we : So I'll answer this from two perspectives to prove you wrong :the first would be Bosnian Muslims which are serbs ethnicity exist, and please do check your facts, while yes Serbs are predominatly Christians as BosniaKs are predominately Muslims, doesn't mean there wasn't Bosnians serbs that were Muslims, and the whole point of them living in Srebrenica is because they are muslims. The other proof, is that even in Serbia there are Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BoristheSavic99
You can check the appendixs for examples of Muslim serbs.

Such foundations seep into unweary populations in other countries like a plague. Many of the conflicts in africa for example, can be traced to arabized africans vs. real africans.

It's a fact that enslavement, exploitation, deep seated sense of racist attitude is prevalent among arabs and muslims in general. The religious support for all these makes the supposed 'christian oppression' look like half baked amateur play. They don't even recognize their faults - it's simply accepted as truth and fact unlike the west that has fully proven capable of change and improvement all on its own. ....the day of reckoning is only a matter of time. No more justifiable war will be fought within our life time, and no greater duty will there be for all civilized and decent people than to put these muslims and arabs in their place.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/anti-islamophobia-group-had-list-of-jewish-targets-plans-for-nuclear-bomb/

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

islamaphobia killed quite a few new yorkers in the aftermath of 9/11.

Revenge seekers?

Yes.

Arizona http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Balbir_Singh_Sodhi

Texas http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-mark-stroman-executed-killing-store-clerk-9-11-revenge-shooting-spree-article-1.159838

NYC  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb4ZJlUXeBU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb4ZJlUXeBU)

A culture that glorifies and fetishizes violence to the extent we do shouldn't be shocked (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/the-cycle-of-revenge/) when its citizens commit random acts of violence.

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

That a nice one. So what should we do with muslims then? Frobid all the mosks and islamic religion like some countrues did? Like Angola did, for example.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513388/Angola-bans-Islam-shuts-mosques.html

That a nice one. So what should we do with muslims then? Frobid all the mosks and islamic religion like some countrues did? Like Angola did, for example.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513388/Angola-bans-Islam-shuts-mosques.html

That a nice one. So what should we do with muslims then? Frobid all the mosks and islamic religion like some countrues did? Like Angola did, for example.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513388/Angola-bans-Islam-shuts-mosques.html

Pathetic. Angola banned Islam, becasue it clashes with state religion of Christianity. Remember that 30-40 years ago, the majority of the people in Angola were believers in the traditional African religion. I remember the words of one African guy. "When the White man first landed in Africa, they had their bible, and we had our land. Now we have their bible, and they have our land".

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

What about the isolated cases of people killing Muslims and those who were mistaken for Muslims (such as Sikhs) just after the 9/11 attacks? Do those incidents not count as Islamophobia?

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

That indeed is the sad truth. Iraq is in peril because of the hate different muslim communities have among them.
Not sure how this situation changes because orthodox hot heads tend to be the ones people choose to follow.
:(

Iraq was a peaceful country, before the Americans triggered the Iran-Iraq war in 1980 for their own selfish needs. Not only different sects of Muslims, but also other minorities such as Christians, Yazidis, Mandeans, and the Bahais were living in perfect harmony. Iraq was one of the few secular countries in the Middle East. But the Americans destroyed all that.

I know what I am talking about, and if you don't want to believe me, you can ask about the same to any Serbian or Bosnian member of this forum yourself. Bosniak Muslims are ethnic Serbs, who converted to Islam (mostly under the influence of force) when the region was under Ottoman rule. They speak the Serbian language, and other than religion, they don't have much difference from the Orthodox Serbs.

> Moroccan man in France brutally stabbed to death by neighbour in 'horrible Islamophobic attack'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914616/Moroccan-man-France-brutally-stabbed-death-neighbour-horrible-Islamophobic-attack.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914616/Moroccan-man-France-brutally-stabbed-death-neighbour-horrible-Islamophobic-attack.html)

Another false flag. We don't know about the true identity of the attacker. And from the slogans which he shouted before the attack, I believe that he is also from an Islamic background. And from the article, it is clear that the perpetrator suffered from acute schizophrenia. So it seems that the attack resulted from mental illness, rather than Islamophobia.

Well, someone with paranoid schnizophrenia could not be said to be acting from Islamopobia conditioning.

I mean, crazy is crazy.

But we'd have to extend that to Islamics who kill shouting Allah Akbar who are paranoid schizophrenics, too.

Well, someone with paranoid schnizophrenia could not be said to be acting from Islamopobia conditioning.

I mean, crazy is crazy.

But we'd have to extend that to Islamics who kill shouting Allah Akbar who are paranoid schizophrenics, too.

You contradict yourself playing a pathetic devil's advocate. Islamics by definition belong to the relevant movement specifically and act in its purpose no matter the mental condition, while random crazed schizophrenics are just that - random and without affiliation other than voices in his own head.

Dumb motherfckers trying to play word games always trip over themselves.

Another false flag. We don't know about the true identity of the attacker. And from the slogans which he shouted before the attack, I believe that he is also from an Islamic background. And from the article, it is clear that the perpetrator suffered from acute schizophrenia. So it seems that the attack resulted from mental illness, rather than Islamophobia.

I'm sorry but what you are stating here is wrong, As a French and since this case was big, it was impossible to miss any information about it, it was clearly an islamophobic attack. Also According to officiel and several organisation (in France), Islamophobia cases has skyrocketed after the Terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo I can list some if you want (there was an increase in antisemite act last year as well but that's another story).

The other which I mentioned before is what you are exactly stating above ie Every attack done on a muslim is related to mental issues, but when it's a muslim doing them it's automatically terrorism which stupid. you don't believe that every cases done against any muslim is related to mental issue and excusable and statically it's impossible.

I can fix this problem for you.

Belief in Islam is a mental illness.

(LOL...)

if only the solution was as simple as that ....

I'm sorry but what you are stating here is wrong, As a French and since this case was big, it was impossible to miss any information about it, it was clearly an islamophobic attack. Also According to officiel and several organisation (in France), Islamophobia cases has skyrocketed after the Terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo I can list some if you want (there was an increase in antisemite act last year as well but that's another story).

The other which I mentioned before is what you are exactly stating above ie Every attack done on a muslim is related to mental issues, but when it's a muslim doing them it's automatically terrorism which stupid. you don't believe that every cases done against any muslim is related to mental issue and excusable and statically it's impossible.

Muslims are at war with non-muslims. Where there is such group pride and group identity, there is collective retribution.

You made your bed. Now sleep in it.

Wasn't aware of Indonesia or Turkey declaring war on us. Or most of the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Maybe you want to stop with the stupid generalizations?

That's what happens when you have such collective pride and cohesion. I do not expect a fool like you to understand what that means.

Gotta love these fckers with their high horse bullsht LOL

Talk when you have any idea of what you are addressing. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut.

I'm using a keyboard not my mouth. And it seems it's you who has no idea of what you're addressing. You said a lot but completely failed to explain how your position makes any sense. Just took the opportunity to repeat yourself and insult me.

Joking aside, though....

It should be of importance to look at cause and effect.

Let's parse it like this.

Muslims commit atrocities  --> various people kill Muslims

No, wait.  We can do better than that.

Someone/group draws cartoons of Mohammed
 --> Muslim group commits atrocities
--> various people kill Muslims
--> in reaction to the absurdity of those killings, a lady decides to have a draw Mohammed cartoon contest
--> Muslim wanna be commandos try to kill her

Looks like one Muslim terrorist goal is to do things bad enough that they will engender a response, so that the cycles of violence will definitely continue.

Well, the history of use of those tactics pretty much defined Arafat's entire career.  Create media events about "the evil Jews" but always leave out the historical chain of events and the atrocities that engendered the response.

So there's nothing new in this, and it's not limited to lone wolf terrorists.

Now, back to the subject of "Islamophobia."  As post #1 used the phrase, it was a hijacked term used as an intimidating word, one to shut people up who said anything against Islam.

You wouldn't thing there actually might be some things to be said against islam, would you?

Of course there are some "Muslim" terrorist that want to use the situation to their advantage like you've mentioned, but that's only one side of the story, the other way around is true, there are people that initiate this kind of situation to their own advantages from politics to the weapon lobbies are just some random sect...

As for the Islamophobia term, no this is wrong, You can say whatever you want about Islam I think no muslim will mind you saying you disagree, just keep it civil because people will get offended if you insult and mock them especially when it comes to their strongest believes or things they like being it muslims or not.

I've provided example of Islamophic acts (recognised officially as such) being it on scale or just individual act. Of course this doesn't mean that there aren't people that uses as you mentioned to shut other people down but this in case of Islam is marginal especially when you consider the number of Muslim around the world ie Third of world population ( There are other groups that have better tools and organization that fall more in the definition you are portraying)

In America, you have young men graduating from high school. Some of these young guys join the military. They do it because they feel that they are supporting America by going out and fighting Middle East insurgents.

You also have lots of young graduates who believe that our interference in the Middle East is wrong. They think that it is our involvement over there that is causing much of the strife. They would almost never join the U.S. Military to go and fight in the Middle East.

Both of these groups are Americans. They recognize each other as Americans. They might call each other nasty names at times, because of their differences. They might even get into political fist fights once in a while. But they all recognize each other as Americans.

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In the Middle east and around the world you have Muslims. Some of the Muslims are militants for their beliefs, just like the young American soldiers. Others are totally against fighting. Some of them get into fights over their beliefs. Yet they are all Muslims, because they say so, just like Americans are Americans.

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Now, here is the distinction between the two groups.

Warrior Americans and peace loving Americans recognize each other as Americans.

Warrior Muslims recognize all Muslims as Muslims, but peace loving Muslims try to say that warrior Muslims are not really Muslims, but that they are simply terrorists using the Muslim name.

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I think that there are no peace loving Muslims. I think that they are all warrior Muslims. I think that the ones that talk peace to the extent that they would not recognize warrior Muslims as Muslim... I think those peaceful Muslims are really an advanced infiltration group of Muslims, slipping behind enemy lines, like spies, sent to soften unsuspecting nations up, so that at just the right time, they can call in the warrior Muslims to destroy the unsuspecting nations.

There aren't any peaceful Muslims. There are only warrior, conqueror Muslims. And the ones that say that they are peaceful are the biggest warriors of them all, because they are preparing the nations that they infiltrate for conquest through the peace lies that they spread.

:)

This is not a bad analysis, but you are completely wrong.  Let us say that for discussion we accept your premise (bolded above).

Propaganda efforts by their nature require large numbers of "propagators."  These are willing, naive and gullible individuals, but they truly believe what they propagate. 

This is very different than willful deceit and dishonesty.

Next we could consider NOT accepting your premise, and it's consequences for the take on the overall situation....

Then we could consider Kuroman's premises, which are <<short story>> that there are so many things going on continually in large and small amounts that no useful conclusions can be drawn whatsoever.

And then there's my point of view.

Exploding bombs aren't peaceful, even though if don't know anything about how they are being used.

:)

The media and a group of people really think that a flight attendant wanting to open a diet coke for a Muslim woman is already a hate crime? How about different human rights violation made towards Muslim girls? Isn't that more deserving to be on the front page rather than some diet coke incident? What has this world become nowadays? ???

She is really making an issue about the flight attendant giving an unopened can to another passenger.
Discrimination based on religion, according to the Muslim woman.

No, i plainly disagree. SHE REFUSED her diet coke, claiming that she could use the pin to attack others. She was just an average lady travelling on board. ....

there is no such thing as islamophobia

Do you live under a rock or your country doesn't deliver newspapers? Islamophobia is bad, distateful, spread like a cancer and its full of hate.
Its definitely real and you will experience it when you get out of your neighborhood and step into the real world.

Um, what are those?

Also I notice you have not addressed the rebuttal of your prior comment.

She was just an average lady traveling on board. ....



Well, it does not matter if you disagree.
This wasn't an "average lady"....

Since it clearly needs to be asked, in what sense is she not an "average lady?" You've disputed a term without justifying or explaining what you're talking about, then want to know why your throw away comment wasn't addressed? Because there's no substance to address.

Given that Google is everyone's friend these days, is it necessary to spell it all out?  It's already been done earlier in this thread.   Now I have to admit - someone that thinks of "newspapers" as a primary info source might neither look back in the thread or check google.  But that's not you...

Yes, if you're disputing something, the onus is on you to provide the basis for your claim. Making vague statements that could be interpreted any number of ways and then refusing to explain them upon request is to be regarded as an automatic admission you don't have a point.

A 26-year-old Muslim woman suffered injuries after being racially abused, assaulted and thrown off a moving train in Australia's Melbourne last week, in an alarming Islamophobic attack. - End of September, 2014.

Where, India?

Those gangs assault and rape all kinds of women in India.

What makes this Islamophobic?

A 26-year-old Muslim woman suffered injuries after being racially abused, assaulted and thrown off a moving train in Australia's Melbourne last week, in an alarming Islamophobic attack. - End of September, 2014.

???

Since the only TRUE Muslim is the one who obeys all the dictates of the Islamic basic holy writings, and since those writings include directives to kill and harm others at some times while to be peaceful at other times, she just might have been a TRUE Muslim. She probably attacked them in accordance with strict, Islamic violence directives, and they were simply defending themselves.

You can't believe the media and police and government reports, especially when they are made by weak Islamites who don't follow the violence directives of their holy writings.

:)

Interesting article about pseudo and contrived victimization.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/the-islamophobia-revolution-will-be-brought-to-you-by-diet-coke/

There isn’t a single fatal anti-Muslim hate crime on record. Islamophobia has never killed anyone. The average anti-Muslim hate crime is committed by other Muslims.

Post your propaganda lies somewhere else, mate. Btw, you forgot to put "come to Christianity" line. :) It's not bad to ask people to follow Christianity but not by spreading lies. After all, lies are forbidden in your religion.

But not in yours, if they suit the purpose of the moment? 

Even so, you won't get many converts saying "Read the Koran" but engaging in wholesale misrepresentation, ducking and dodging difficult issues, and sometimes using untruths for temporary advantage.

Not if the issue was already clearly handled earlier in the thread.  This is called "moving forward."  Someone jumps into the conversation mid stream, the record is there for him to get up to speed.  Not my job.

If you had a valid point, it shouldn't be much trouble to reiterate it. However, having since found the original, I see why you wouldn't want to.

But not in yours, if they suit the purpose of the moment? 

Even so, you won't get many converts saying "Read the Koran" but engaging in wholesale misrepresentation, ducking and dodging difficult issues, and sometimes using untruths for temporary advantage.

In addition, the Christian converts COME from people reading the Bible or hearing the Bible read. Why? Because it is not the words of mankind that God uses to convert people. It is His own words that He uses, the words of the Bible.

:)