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Title: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: otrkid70 on June 03, 2015, 12:40:42 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: tvbcof on June 03, 2015, 01:49:52 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

Things will be played thusly:

We peons will be presented with nuclear war between the West and China unless we accept a one-world government which can rescue the world from disaster.  The meme about tension (and significant differences for that matter) between the U.S. and China is a hoax and nothing could be farther from the truth.

While there may be a bit of horse-trading about who controls how much, it goes on behind the scenes where we don't see it.  What is happening on the ground right now is very akin to what happens when one 'double-clutches' a truck transmission in order to get the gears to mesh.

Obviously this is a hypothesis on my part.  I keep it in the kicking around to match against observations as they come in.



Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Pro_Crypto_Marty on June 03, 2015, 02:23:28 AM
I for one choose to believe that within a few years we will all have learned from the mistakes of history and band together for the greater good of humanity.

That said, stay away from my stockpile of weapons, food and medicine and the land I purchased deep in the boreal forest.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: PenguinFire on June 03, 2015, 02:25:04 AM
Oh course it is only a matter of time.  But, I don't think "the matter of time" is in the short short term future.  Possibly in my lifetime but I pretty highly doubt that.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: BADecker on June 03, 2015, 02:25:17 AM
There will be no WW3 in the ways we understand. What I mean is this.

When you look at the costs in damage and lives in WW1 and WW2, nobody wants WW3. The banks and rulers of the world don't want it. Why not? It takes their steady profits away.

The reason that we have had all the little wars since WW2 - Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan - is because we were in WW3 right at the end of WW2. We have been in WW3 since the end of of WW2, starting with the Korean War.

This is the way to do war. A little at a time. That way there are no big losses that need to be accounted for. and there is no way that the Rulers of the World can easily be pushed off their seats, out of their positions. WW3 is here and now, and if it ever stops, what will WW4 look like?

WW4 will be the thing that stops WW3 by taking its place. WW4 will kill the whole world.

:)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: lister storm on June 03, 2015, 03:40:31 AM
I hope a major economic collapse can be avoided. Chances are getting high that a Global crash and war is coming.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Fuck NWO on June 03, 2015, 07:05:52 AM
Nope. The end of NWO is a matter of time.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: twister on June 03, 2015, 07:22:29 AM
I don't think we're going to see a WW3, the reason for that is many countries now hold nuclear bombs which wasn't the case in previous World Wars and if WW3 were to happen sooner or later the countries will use their nuclear weapons and then it will start a chain reaction and the other countries will take counter measures by deploying their nuclear weapons as well.

This is why every country will avoid situations which can start a world war as it can bring about destruction to human kind all over the world.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: AlgoSwan on June 03, 2015, 07:57:05 AM
When you look at the costs in damage and lives in WW1 and WW2, nobody wants WW3. The banks and rulers of the world don't want it. Why not? It takes their steady profits away.
Wrong! Without these bloody wars they wouldn't control almost every acre on earth. Just checkout Bretton Woods agreement date for confirmation of my hypothesis. More confirmations could be found in history after these dirty wars.

The reason that we have had all the little wars since WW2 - Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan - is because we were in WW3 right at the end of WW2. We have been in WW3 since the end of of WW2, starting with the Korean War.
Exactly!


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: saturn643 on June 03, 2015, 08:33:12 AM
There would be World War III no doubt about it. The question is when? I think this happens when America and Nato is weak enough that the Axis countries would be able to defeat them.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: master sato on June 03, 2015, 10:42:58 PM
I don't know about world WW3. I think we will get very close to war but war will not break out. Both the US and Russia have nukes and both countries know that war with each other could mean the end of the world


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: BADecker on June 03, 2015, 11:27:14 PM
Like I said before, WW3 started with the Korean War, and continues right up to today. All the police actions, etc., are part of WW3. The thing that will destroy us is if WW4 is allowed to happen. WW4 will only happen when WW3 (that we are in right now) gets out of control.

:)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 01:27:33 AM
There would be World War III no doubt about it. The question is when? I think this happens when America and Nato is weak enough that the Axis countries would be able to defeat them.

The World War III will start when Hillary Clinton is elected as the POTUS in 2016. It will start with the invasion of North Korea and Iran, and will end with the invasion of Russia. Everything will be over in a matter of 2-3 years. Either the United States will be converted to a nuclear wasteland as a result of the Russian strikes, or the US will gain the dominance over entire world.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: waterpile on June 04, 2015, 02:07:37 AM
I don't think we're going to see a WW3, the reason for that is many countries now hold nuclear bombs which wasn't the case in previous World Wars and if WW3 were to happen sooner or later the countries will use their nuclear weapons and then it will start a chain reaction and the other countries will take counter measures by deploying their nuclear weapons as well.

This is why every country will avoid situations which can start a world war as it can bring about destruction to human kind all over the world.

It is possible check on the news about China and what it has been doing to its neighbors.. China started building Airbase to other countries territory, its likely wants to declare war..


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 09:58:10 AM
World War will give much profit for weapons manufacturer and bank. So, World War 3 is possible to happen. Can you imagine how nuclear weapons will be shot at the moment. Poor Earth


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Lauda on June 04, 2015, 10:07:35 AM
World War will give much profit for weapons manufacturer and bank. So, World War 3 is possible to happen. Can you imagine how nuclear weapons will be shot at the moment. Poor Earth
This is why investing in such an industry is going to be very beneficial to one. We all know that the greed and wish for power in people is very strong.
The relationships between countries are tight as it is. We only need 1 event that would light up the flames and there we go again.
Third time's the charm?


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Finchy on June 04, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.


This is kind of a silly line because you can apply it to anything. The end of the world is only a matter of time, extreme worldwide famine is only a matter of time. Most things are only a matter of time. World War 3 is just a name. You could argue that it's already happening regardless of a tag. I think we do live in fickle times and one small event probably resulting from a country invading another will spiral out of control with many other countries disagreeing and getting involved. I'm sure it will involve Russia or the US in some way. Not much we can do about it any way.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: GhanaGamboy on June 04, 2015, 10:33:10 AM
Has so called ww3 not already started ww2 ever stop, I mean or do we just wait for someone in power to confirm that it is ww3  ??? Many many countries as stated are and have been fighting for years we just gave up nazi for US nazi, live and let live but the population needs to be culled and the #1 money maker war is still in full swing, lets just wait for them to declare it is now ww3  ;D


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 04, 2015, 10:48:45 AM
hopefully Satoshi will come back then.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: eyeknock on June 04, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
be 100% sure that ww3 is just a matter of time, just look at the news man, there is lot of countrys who have lot of problems, money, unemployed ppl, hungry&poor ppl everywhere, this is like a countdown, and i really think is so close.

hopefully Satoshi will come back then.

maybe he never leave us ;)



Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
World War will give much profit for weapons manufacturer and bank. So, World War 3 is possible to happen. Can you imagine how nuclear weapons will be shot at the moment. Poor Earth

And that will be the end of all forms of life in the planet of earth. The modern nuclear weapons are nothing like those rag-tag bombs dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They are capable of exterminating the entire human race in one go. If you are after profit, I'll give you one advice. Buy some land in Moon or Mars, and start a residential project there.  ;D


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 12:03:34 PM
hopefully Satoshi will come back then.

I am just curious if World War 3 really happen, and the nuclear weapons attack and destroy all telecommunication network infrastructure, what's your bitcoin in your wallet will be?


World War will give much profit for weapons manufacturer and bank. So, World War 3 is possible to happen. Can you imagine how nuclear weapons will be shot at the moment. Poor Earth

And that will be the end of all forms of life in the planet of earth. The modern nuclear weapons are nothing like those rag-tag bombs dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They are capable of exterminating the entire human race in one go. If you are after profit, I'll give you one advice. Buy some land in Moon or Mars, and start a residential project there.  ;D

Thanks for your precious advice. I will keep it


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: s.mouse on June 04, 2015, 01:23:30 PM
hopefully Satoshi will come back then.

I am just curious if World War 3 really happen, and the nuclear weapons attack and destroy all telecommunication network infrastructure, what's your bitcoin in your wallet will be?

Bitcoin wouldn't really work well in a post-apocalyptic society. It needs the technology and infrastructure to operate and without it it would be useless.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: fkvidar on June 05, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
Remember back in 2011 when Obama said that a cyber attack would be considered an act of war. Now we are in military tensions with China and they just attacked the data of 4 million Federal security employees.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 05, 2015, 03:48:29 AM
Remember back in 2011 when Obama said that a cyber attack would be considered an act of war.

The United States just needs some silly reason to start a war. Remember the cooked up stories about the "Weapons of mass destruction" before GW Bush launched his Iraq invasion and that about "the genocide of Albanians in Kosovo" before Bill Clinton bombed Serbia. However, against strong and powerful nations such as China and Russia, I don't think Obama will launch an all out war in retaliation for a cyber attack.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: AlgoSwan on June 05, 2015, 05:33:11 AM
Nations start wars only when two governments agree on profits after the war!

Where these profits come from?
Good question. I'm answering this question with a question: When someone die in a war, what happens his/her all wealth if nobody left from his/her family?

Yes. It goes to the state. Now you know where these profits come from.

Awake people awake! You are the most revolutionary community after the French Revolution. Next generation will read your revolution not as a currency revolution. They will read it as "Third Enlightenment".


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Daniel91 on June 05, 2015, 06:13:15 AM
If you ask some prominent historians and experts, the Third World War has already started and is still ongoing.
Practically since the end of World War II we see the ongoing conflict between the East and the West, led by America and Russia (former USSR).
That conflict was mostly cold and so they called it a cold war, but during the Cuban Missile Crisis almost happened an open conflict between America and Russia and the beginning of nuclear war.
The wars that took place later, in Afghanistan, Angola and elsewhere were indirect war conflicts between America and Russia, as it is now a war in Ukraine.
So, in my opinion, the real question is not when will the Third World war begin but when and how will the Third World war end.
In view of the consequences of this conflict on the whole world, and the number of countries and people involved, there is no doubt that it is indeed a global conflict, not a local.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: jones techbit on June 05, 2015, 08:19:13 AM
Look at the details of how WW1 and WW2 started. war is nothing more than a link in a chain of events


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: neoneros on June 05, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
The third world war is nothing more than the cold war, you might say it is still going on, keeping the status quo, the threats are still there, but no one is pushing the button because they know it is only a means of pressure to ensure no one will do press the button. It is a doomsday machine, once we tip it we cannot go back and it will be te annihilation of our world. The industry is fighting small wars all over, but it is not a world war, it is an industry, under the flag of peace and democracy. Other states like China Russia and Korea are only flexing their muscles. It is no more than a show. It is a big stand off, a WWE game on a world wide scale, it is entertainment, if you look at the way the Gulf war was presented on the media it was all flashy graphics, live footage, brought to the world as if it were the Olympics. Advertisers had good numbers for the commercials in between the war images, people were glued to the tubes at the time. It was a profitable war for many.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: misterycoins on June 05, 2015, 10:02:20 AM
George Soros: Europe needs to start WW3 with Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Se2rOEVb1oo


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: DougHo on June 06, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
WW3 prepares for take off  :'(


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2015, 10:13:12 AM
George Soros: Europe needs to start WW3 with Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Se2rOEVb1oo

Why Europe? Why not the United States? The US is crafty and ingenious, as usual. They want the Europeans and the Eurasians fighting against each other, so that in the end they could conquer new territories without much effort. Look at the effect of sanctions against Russia. It is affecting only the Russians and the Europeans. The Americans are not suffering as a result of it.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: ObscureBean on June 06, 2015, 10:41:29 AM
That is all very good but nukes are vestiges from our barbaric days, we are a lot more refined now  ;D. First we need to create a new weapon of mass destruction that only targets humans maybe through some DNA locking mechanism or something, and then we're good to go  :)   I'm sure even the most ruthless ISIS leader would agree that there is no point in making a global mess that affects every other life form on the planet.  As beings burdened/endowed with honor, we should keep the fight to ourselves right?  ::)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: --Encrypted-- on June 06, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
Like I said before, WW3 started with the Korean War, and continues right up to today. All the police actions, etc., are part of WW3. The thing that will destroy us is if WW4 is allowed to happen. WW4 will only happen when WW3 (that we are in right now) gets out of control.

:)

I partly agree with you there. except these wars didn't affect the whole world as a WORLD war should, so we're not really on a war. If one of these wars gets out of control, however, then we'll get a real WW3


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: sulphurX on June 06, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
World War is a broad term, Currently there is no world war by the standards of having direct conflicts between most of the world nations and having a global influence, I doubt it would begin anytime soon but there would be minor wars between smaller nations supported indirectly by bigger nations.

The only winners are cockroaches because if a world war breaks out in this time, nuclear weapons are sure to be used in someway.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
World War is a broad term, Currently there is no world war by the standards of having direct conflicts between most of the world nations and having a global influence, I doubt it would begin anytime soon but there would be minor wars between smaller nations supported indirectly by bigger nations.

The warfare methodology has changed quite a bit now. Rather than direct all out conflicts, the super-powers now resort to "fighting using a proxy". Take the example of the Eastern Ukrainian conflict. Although it is a conflict between the NATO and Russia, both these sides are not directly fighting each other. On the other hand, the Kiev forces and the neo-Nazi battalions are fighting on behalf of the Americans, while the Novorussian army is fighting for the Russians.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: iWokeUpLate on June 11, 2015, 07:37:23 AM
Time is becoming worst so be prepared at all time. One day when you wake up, you're in heaven or hell.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: TinEye on June 11, 2015, 08:50:53 AM
the WW3 won't be global like the two that passed, it be around only the stronghest nations, and i think usa will try not to involve other countries too much, it will be deciced between them and those that are making chaos right now, like some of the arabic states, if they are intelligent enough they will try to avoid nuke as much as a possible, or this world will become a nightmare for everyone, for them too
it's not even very imaginative thinking that, the next ww will be between planets and not only on earth


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: dollarneed on June 11, 2015, 09:13:10 AM
i preffer if ww3 is happened but not between human and human but human and alien,thats gonna be awsome  man :D,ok i realize that my self to much watched sci-fi


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
i preffer if ww3 is happened but not between human and human but human and alien,thats gonna be awsome  man :D,ok i realize that my self to much watched sci-fi

ROFLMAO. Then it won't be called as "World War". It will be known as "Space War" or "Galaxy war". And the humans will be defeated in less than 2 days. May be after 100 or 200 years, when humans colonize planets like Mars and Venus, we will have a war which involves many planets.  ;D

And now coming back to the topic, these are the possible scenarios for WW3:

1. US vs Russia
2. US vs China
3. US/EU vs Russia/China
4. US vs ISIS
5. Russia vs ISIS
6. US/ISIS vs Russia/China
7. US/Pakistan vs Russia/India
8. US/Japan vs Russia/China
9. US/Saudi Arabia vs Russia/Iran
10. US/South Korea vs Russia/DPRK/China


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: roadbits on June 12, 2015, 01:25:13 PM
I expect massive social unrest when economies start to crumble ,but very much doubt anything like that will happen.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2015, 01:32:29 PM
I expect massive social unrest when economies start to crumble ,but very much doubt anything like that will happen.

During the war, the economies of the participating countries will crumble, but those of the weapons / equipment suppliers will receive a boost. Just look at the WW2. The major participating countries, such as Japan, Russia, Germany, Italy.etc saw their economies crumble to rubble, while that of the United States received a huge boost, as they didn't participated in the warfare until 1945. When Russia and the United States battle each other, the same will happen. The Chinese economy will receive a huge boost.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: hanomnom on June 12, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
Out of all the end of the world scenarios this seems by far the most likely. Mankind destroys itself.

It's coming. There's been an exponential rise in war and violence in recent years. How will it be decided when WW3 officially starts?
As if we're gunna turn on the TV one day and it suddenly announces "emergency broadcast: World war 3 is about to begin in exactly 3 minutes." ::)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: RTRC on June 12, 2015, 08:49:36 PM
Russia and middle east will obviously team up. Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Turkey, Finland will fall within the first month or two. The deciding factors of WW3 would be who Germany sides with and if the USA will have both China and Japan on their side. If they are it makes it a one front war for the USA.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: dollarneed on June 12, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
World war would mean a significant shift in power not to mention that it would undoubtedly destroy the planet and life as we know it would never be the same


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2015, 05:39:39 AM
Russia and middle east will obviously team up. Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Turkey, Finland will fall within the first month or two. The deciding factors of WW3 would be who Germany sides with and if the USA will have both China and Japan on their side. If they are it makes it a one front war for the USA.

The middle-east is divided. The Shiite nations, such as Syria and Iran might team up with Russia, while the Sunni nations such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will side with the United States. Germany will side with the US, as it is a NATO member. And there is no chance that China and Japan will be fighting in the same side, as they are mortal enemies.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: aahzmundus on June 13, 2015, 06:12:47 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
I also have a feeling that world war 3 could happen anytime, if it so happens it will be a mass destruction owing to the fact that huge amount of nuclear weapons that could be used and the latest technologies that are being used in war.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: dblink on June 13, 2015, 07:48:20 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

In my opinion, there is long way to go for WW3, this is not going to happen in down the line 15 - 20 years. The future plan of Big Nuclear power countries will be, totally bring the whole middle east under their control, including the Governance. If they failed to bring ME under their control then sure for that, there will be a big nuclear war and ultimate result will be "Destructive LOSS" for Whole world and there will be Zero Winners in WW3.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 13, 2015, 08:03:08 AM
Well if it has to happen, then I think it will in Asian Sub-continent region. The tensions, the drama, the threats, instability, are just too much. Name it, and every possible reason for starting WW3 is available there. China backing Pakistan, Russia backing India, tensions between India-Pakistan, India-China, America being diplomatic with all of them, all the spices are available.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: deluxeCITY on June 13, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
If we open our eyes the times are indeed quite bad with the way we mankind are heading, it feels like we have been down this road before and we destroyed ourselves then too, another subject. I think it is one of the only ways to control the population explosion we have but saying that a not so friendly disease that wipes out a massive percentage of the planet is probably already in existence, anything short of full blown nuclear war is just not going to control the population increase. It is time to prey if you have a creator or just have fun while you can if you don't.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2015, 08:53:50 AM
Well if it has to happen, then I think it will in Asian Sub-continent region. The tensions, the drama, the threats, instability, are just too much. Name it, and every possible reason for starting WW3 is available there. China backing Pakistan, Russia backing India, tensions between India-Pakistan, India-China, America being diplomatic with all of them, all the spices are available.

Asia is quite stable now. Tensions between China and India has mostly subsided, although a lot of bad blood still exists between India and Pakistan. And China is no longer backing Pakistan, and Russia is no longer backing India. So we can be quite sure that even if a war between India and Pakistan breaks out, it will not turn out to be the 3rd World War.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Daniel91 on June 13, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
Well if it has to happen, then I think it will in Asian Sub-continent region. The tensions, the drama, the threats, instability, are just too much. Name it, and every possible reason for starting WW3 is available there. China backing Pakistan, Russia backing India, tensions between India-Pakistan, India-China, America being diplomatic with all of them, all the spices are available.

Asia is quite stable now. Tensions between China and India has mostly subsided, although a lot of bad blood still exists between India and Pakistan. And China is no longer backing Pakistan, and Russia is no longer backing India. So we can be quite sure that even if a war between India and Pakistan breaks out, it will not turn out to be the 3rd World War.

I don't agree with your thinking.
In South Asia we have a lot of conflicts between China and its neighbors, because of border disputes.
China has outstanding border disputes with almost all its neighbors, including the Philippines, Japan, S. Korea, India etc.
The neighboring countries are even arming and strengthen their armies and starting to feel insecure because of aggressive Chinese policy.
Not yet broke open armed conflict but is not turned off in the near future.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Furio on June 13, 2015, 09:18:20 AM
WW3 is allready an fact, for about 3 years now, it's just isn't on the doorstep of the western world (YET)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: aahzmundus on June 13, 2015, 11:17:25 AM
Well if it has to happen, then I think it will in Asian Sub-continent region. The tensions, the drama, the threats, instability, are just too much. Name it, and every possible reason for starting WW3 is available there. China backing Pakistan, Russia backing India, tensions between India-Pakistan, India-China, America being diplomatic with all of them, all the spices are available.
China backing Pakistan? Russia backing India?!? America being diplomatic?!?!?
I'm sorry to say, but that doesn't seem likely to me, although I do agree if there's war in the future, it probably is in the subcontinent..


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: cryptocoiner on June 13, 2015, 11:35:56 AM
I would say World War Three is already going.... It's just not in active form. But sooner or later...
Look at what's going on in middle east. It's the beginning.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: cbase on June 13, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
World war 3 can take place generally if a largely populated country craves dominating another country.

Wars between India and Pakistan has been a possibility ad their is a lot of tension between them like always. Their nuclear power is at the same par too as Pakistan has a good relationship with China and India has a good relationship with Russia.

Though both of the countries are not legally backing them, but when required, they got their back.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Sourgummies on June 13, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
World War Three is the old standby when they do not have a Y2k or global warming to lean on. Russia as aggressive as they may seem is not crazy to light the match that would send this world into a mass eruption.
It makes good fodder but its as likely as pigs flying,at least in my perception.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Sourgummies on June 13, 2015, 05:04:54 PM
Pakistan can not afford a war,India has surpassed it and its funding from the States is more than likely down to a trickle after Osama.
Russia may take its nearby satellites but it will not overextend itself,same with China. It is far to risky to attempt to wipe the board and not get poked back.

Chinas current island creation is interesting but if the rest of the Pacific allign's it will have no choice but to save face but fall back.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Slaxt on June 13, 2015, 05:08:11 PM
WW3 is allready an fact, for about 3 years now, it's just isn't on the doorstep of the western world (YET)

You are right WW3 was started years ago more than 3 years, the moment USA, UK etc etc started taking control of countries it was the start of WW3 but we are just not aware yet because it is not on our door step but it will be when they want it to be. Our generation is screwed more than ever.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: brendasmith982 on June 14, 2015, 08:22:37 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
With current warfare technologies, a world war will have devastating effect throughout the globe, and maybe the nuclear weapons could even cause an end to the human race, totally possible.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: teddy5145 on June 14, 2015, 08:42:29 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
With current warfare technologies, a world war will have devastating effect throughout the globe, and maybe the nuclear weapons could even cause an end to the human race, totally possible.

I thought that every nation agreed that using nukes or something that has a devastating power like that is prohibited  ???
It's kinda scary to think that we might need to live just like in fallout video games  :-\


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: panju1 on June 14, 2015, 02:09:25 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
With current warfare technologies, a world war will have devastating effect throughout the globe, and maybe the nuclear weapons could even cause an end to the human race, totally possible.

I thought that every nation agreed that using nukes or something that has a devastating power like that is prohibited  ???
It's kinda scary to think that we might need to live just like in fallout video games  :-\

Agreed? If nukes are under the control of a crazy dictator, you can never be sure what will happen.
I don't think Israel has a no-first-use policy.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 15, 2015, 11:36:38 AM
Well if it has to happen, then I think it will in Asian Sub-continent region. The tensions, the drama, the threats, instability, are just too much. Name it, and every possible reason for starting WW3 is available there. China backing Pakistan, Russia backing India, tensions between India-Pakistan, India-China, America being diplomatic with all of them, all the spices are available.

Asia is quite stable now. Tensions between China and India has mostly subsided, although a lot of bad blood still exists between India and Pakistan. And China is no longer backing Pakistan, and Russia is no longer backing India. So we can be quite sure that even if a war between India and Pakistan breaks out, it will not turn out to be the 3rd World War.

Regarding China backing Pakistan, I think it can never stop. Just recently I have read that China has invested about $56 billion in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir for developing infrastructure, whereas when Indian PM went to China for investments, he has been handed only $20 billion. Chinese and Indian army are already engaging one on one on the borders. Chinese intrusion in Indian borders have lot of evidence.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 15, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
Regarding China backing Pakistan, I think it can never stop. Just recently I have read that China has invested about $56 billion in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir for developing infrastructure, whereas when Indian PM went to China for investments, he has been handed only $20 billion. Chinese and Indian army are already engaging one on one on the borders. Chinese intrusion in Indian borders have lot of evidence.

Pakistan has been prostituting to China for many decades now, and that is why China is showering them with so much investment. Ever heard about the Shaksgam Valley (Trans-Karakoram Tract)? It was a strategically important piece of land in the Kashmir region, which was under the control of Pakistan. The Pakis sold it to China for peanuts.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Don007 on June 15, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
With current warfare technologies, a world war will have devastating effect throughout the globe, and maybe the nuclear weapons could even cause an end to the human race, totally possible.

I thought that every nation agreed that using nukes or something that has a devastating power like that is prohibited  ???
It's kinda scary to think that we might need to live just like in fallout video games  :-\

Agreed? If nukes are under the control of a crazy dictator, you can never be sure what will happen.
I don't think Israel has a no-first-use policy.

Hm. I think everyone (even crazy dictators) are aware of the effects of nuclear bombing. Knowing that íf you are going to use them you will also can expect some against you will stop everyone from using them I think; even crazy dictators do not want their land to be demolished. I think this reason is the only advantage of multiple countries owning such bombs and weapons.

Let's hope we will never experience a World War again. Honestly, I'm afraid we will..


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 15, 2015, 02:36:16 PM
Hm. I think everyone (even crazy dictators) are aware of the effects of nuclear bombing. Knowing that íf you are going to use them you will also can expect some against you will stop everyone from using them I think; even crazy dictators do not want their land to be demolished. I think this reason is the only advantage of multiple countries owning such bombs and weapons.

Honestly, I believe that the only reason why the Americans hasn't invaded Iran or the DPRK may be their fear that these countries might be already possessing the nukes (and powerful enough missiles to launch a nuclear attack with them). Why has the United States invaded Iraq and Libya without valid reasons, while they have held back on attacking Iran and North Korea?


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: rayhan on June 15, 2015, 06:23:54 PM
Regarding China backing Pakistan, I think it can never stop. Just recently I have read that China has invested about $56 billion in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir for developing infrastructure, whereas when Indian PM went to China for investments, he has been handed only $20 billion. Chinese and Indian army are already engaging one on one on the borders. Chinese intrusion in Indian borders have lot of evidence.

Pakistan has been prostituting to China for many decades now, and that is why China is showering them with so much investment. Ever heard about the Shaksgam Valley (Trans-Karakoram Tract)? It was a strategically important piece of land in the Kashmir region, which was under the control of Pakistan. The Pakis sold it to China for peanuts.

Not even that, even China is holding on to a large piece of Kashmir which they captured during India-China war in 1962. The dispute between India and China is so old, that it is not possible that it will get under shelves just because of the change in government. I am sure during this new Indian government, the war is bound to happen. Either China or Pakistan or both of them will attack India for sure.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 16, 2015, 02:36:41 AM
Not even that, even China is holding on to a large piece of Kashmir which they captured during India-China war in 1962. The dispute between India and China is so old, that it is not possible that it will get under shelves just because of the change in government. I am sure during this new Indian government, the war is bound to happen. Either China or Pakistan or both of them will attack India for sure.

Well... the Sino-Indian conflict occurred more than 50 years ago, and the tensions seems to have cooled down. I hate to say this, but actually it was the incompetence of the Indian rulers at that time (esp. Jawaharlal Nehru), which cost India some 40,000 sq.kms of Aksai Chin. He foolishly trusted the Chinese, and refused to strengthen the border posts along the Johnson Line.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 16, 2015, 05:42:52 PM
Regarding China backing Pakistan, I think it can never stop. Just recently I have read that China has invested about $56 billion in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir for developing infrastructure, whereas when Indian PM went to China for investments, he has been handed only $20 billion. Chinese and Indian army are already engaging one on one on the borders. Chinese intrusion in Indian borders have lot of evidence.

Pakistan has been prostituting to China for many decades now, and that is why China is showering them with so much investment. Ever heard about the Shaksgam Valley (Trans-Karakoram Tract)? It was a strategically important piece of land in the Kashmir region, which was under the control of Pakistan. The Pakis sold it to China for peanuts.

My point exactly the same. China will keep backing Pakistan and will even help and provoke Pakistan to attack India. India is now being surrounded by all the Chinese investments in South Asia.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: brendanjhwu on June 16, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Well I don't think so...

Each country is just getting stronger and stronger. Soon enough, this world will be hot potato with a grenade in a 10 by 10 room. Noone's gonna dare to play that game :D


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2015, 04:24:12 AM
My point exactly the same. China will keep backing Pakistan and will even help and provoke Pakistan to attack India. India is now being surrounded by all the Chinese investments in South Asia.

The Chinese are making investments all over the world, including those in neighboring countries of India, such as Pakistan, Maldives, Myanmar and Sri Lanka. There is no need for India to worry about this. At least they are not moving their heavy weapons and ballistic missiles to these countries, like the NATO is doing in Eastern Europe.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Marbit on June 17, 2015, 08:01:39 AM
I believe the same. Even after there are treaties being signed amongst the countries, investments being made, but one hot-headed decision, and poof, everything is gone. There is all the drama present required to start a WW3. Whether it is Russia-Western Countries, India-China, India-Pakistan, North Korea-South Korea, it could be anything. These all countries are having major trust problems and unresolved old-issues between them.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: mayflor2 on June 17, 2015, 09:00:16 AM
Well I don't think so...

Each country is just getting stronger and stronger. Soon enough, this world will be hot potato with a grenade in a 10 by 10 room. Noone's gonna dare to play that game :D

If the world war 3 is going to happen, the entire world is going to be pushed back few hundred years in term of civilization or even can go out of extinction for that matter of using nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: vrm86 on June 17, 2015, 12:56:58 PM
Well I don't think so...

Each country is just getting stronger and stronger. Soon enough, this world will be hot potato with a grenade in a 10 by 10 room. Noone's gonna dare to play that game :D

If the world war 3 is going to happen, the entire world is going to be pushed back few hundred years in term of civilization or even can go out of extinction for that matter of using nuclear weapons.

Not sure if modern world conflict will result in using nuclear weapon. First person that will make such decision is gonna take responsibility way higher than any other war criminal in history. In WWII all sides of conflict were using any warfare they had, but nothing was such powerful. The question is, if any leader of nuclear empires will turn out to be a psycho. If yes, the Earth will be scorched in first days.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: mikaljan on June 17, 2015, 01:26:39 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

REMEMBER: World War 3 will happen. It’s not a matter of IF, it’s a matter of WHEN. World War 3 will happen.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: mayflor2 on June 17, 2015, 01:41:37 PM
There would be World War III no doubt about it. The question is when? I think this happens when America and Nato is weak enough that the Axis countries would be able to defeat them.

The World War III will start when Hillary Clinton is elected as the POTUS in 2016. It will start with the invasion of North Korea and Iran, and will end with the invasion of Russia. Everything will be over in a matter of 2-3 years. Either the United States will be converted to a nuclear wasteland as a result of the Russian strikes, or the US will gain the dominance over entire world.

Regardless of how exciting it sounds, I don't think so it will end that way. According to my knowledge, I think the WW3 'begins' after 25 years-30 years if situations seems to get worse. However, the world wouldn't end, it would just be divided and slowly get together repairing itself in the course of the next 5 years of WW3. Nuclear heavy countries would feel independent and divide while they conquer little ones, it would be a huge battle between U.S and Russia but I think nobody wiill 'win' the war. The whole human civilization experiences a crash but eventually, they get through.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2015, 01:45:55 PM
First person that will make such decision is gonna take responsibility way higher than any other war criminal in history.

I am not sure about that. The Americans nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945, when Japan was preparing to surrender. The Americans would have won the war, even without the nuclear strike. But still, they nuked Japan. Not once, but twice. A total of some 300,000 got killed as a result of the strikes, and millions more were left injured. But this incident was quickly forgotten. IMO, right now less than 1% of the world population even know the fact that the Americans nuked Japan in 1945.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: pureelite on June 17, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

I think we/they all know better than that. It is imperrative that USA and Russia reach out to eachother, and make a deal, because this really is rather dangerous to the fate of mankind.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: deluxeCITY on June 18, 2015, 12:20:42 AM
Between ISIS, Rusasia, Ukraine, North Korea ect WW3 is closer then we all think.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 18, 2015, 02:42:10 AM
Between ISIS, Rusasia, Ukraine, North Korea ect WW3 is closer then we all think.

ISIS, Ukraine, North Korea.etc can't trigger the WW3. For example, if North Korea attacks Japan with their ballistic missiles, then it is quite possible that the Americans will join Japan in counter-attacking them. But it will not develop in to a full blown world war, as long as other major players such as Russia and China stays out.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: brendanjhwu on June 18, 2015, 03:19:28 AM
Well I don't think so...

Each country is just getting stronger and stronger. Soon enough, this world will be hot potato with a grenade in a 10 by 10 room. Noone's gonna dare to play that game :D

If the world war 3 is going to happen, the entire world is going to be pushed back few hundred years in term of civilization or even can go out of extinction for that matter of using nuclear weapons.

I REALLY HOPE it doesn't come out to that. I place my life on it :) (get it?) haha.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Bit-Gods on June 18, 2015, 08:49:41 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

WW3 can wipe out every living hings from the face of earth, there  are many nucelear weapons that can have this devastating and catastrophic effects, people need to start living and accepting each other to move forward as species, if unity cannot be formed it is only a hindrance for us as human kind and we will be made extinct by our own actions, live and let live.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 18, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
WW3 can wipe out every living hings from the face of earth, there  are many nucelear weapons that can have this devastating and catastrophic effects, people need to start living and accepting each other to move forward as species, if unity cannot be formed it is only a hindrance for us as human kind and we will be made extinct by our own actions, live and let live.

Thankfully, there are at least half a dozen nations, which are having nuclear weapons right now. If only one of the countries were having this capability, then there was a chance of that nation nuking some other less powerful nation (just like the US nuked Japan in 1945). But the fear of a retaliation in the same kind will keep the nuclear weapon-armed nations to exercise restraint.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: vrm86 on June 18, 2015, 01:07:53 PM
First person that will make such decision is gonna take responsibility way higher than any other war criminal in history.
I am not sure about that. The Americans nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945, when Japan was preparing to surrender. The Americans would have won the war, even without the nuclear strike. But still, they nuked Japan. Not once, but twice. A total of some 300,000 got killed as a result of the strikes, and millions more were left injured.

That was specific situation for several reasons:
-Japan had already lost that conflict (as you mentioned): there was no military purpose requiring such action
-there was no threat of response
-there was only one nuclear test in history performed before (I suppose that USA considered this as an additional scientific data source)

I said that in terms of response or even chain reaction - attacked country would no longer refrain from same kind of reaction and likely claim that it's justified.

But this incident was quickly forgotten. IMO, right now less than 1% of the world population even know the fact that the Americans nuked Japan in 1945.
I guess that there is no such fact mentioned in US history school books :/


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 18, 2015, 04:35:05 PM

The Chinese are making investments all over the world, including those in neighboring countries of India, such as Pakistan, Maldives, Myanmar and Sri Lanka. There is no need for India to worry about this. At least they are not moving their heavy weapons and ballistic missiles to these countries, like the NATO is doing in Eastern Europe.

No it is not the same. China is not only investing their, but it is contributing in their infrastructure, building ports to dock ships and submarines, supplying arms and ammunition. And China has also deployed its army at Pakistan occupied Kashmir.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 18, 2015, 05:11:11 PM
No it is not the same. China is not only investing their, but it is contributing in their infrastructure, building ports to dock ships and submarines, supplying arms and ammunition. And China has also deployed its army at Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Yes. The Chinese investment involves improving the local infrastructure, such as ports and highways. Why this is surprising? And compared to Russia and the United States, China is still an infant in the arms export market. Only third world countries such as Pakistan and Sri Lanka purchase the low-quality Chinese weapons, because they can't afford any Russian or European weapons.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 19, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
No it is not the same. China is not only investing their, but it is contributing in their infrastructure, building ports to dock ships and submarines, supplying arms and ammunition. And China has also deployed its army at Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Yes. The Chinese investment involves improving the local infrastructure, such as ports and highways. Why this is surprising? And compared to Russia and the United States, China is still an infant in the arms export market. Only third world countries such as Pakistan and Sri Lanka purchase the low-quality Chinese weapons, because they can't afford any Russian or European weapons.

Well you did not get what I meant. I meant that through the infrastructure development, it is actually taking the lands and ports for itself, for making military and naval bases. And it does not matter if it is nowhere in exporting arms. It is competing with every top nation in terms of increasing its defense capacity.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2015, 04:17:17 AM
Well you did not get what I meant. I meant that through the infrastructure development, it is actually taking the lands and ports for itself, for making military and naval bases. And it does not matter if it is nowhere in exporting arms. It is competing with every top nation in terms of increasing its defense capacity.

I have read about the Chinese investments in countries such as Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Maldives, especially the ones involving ports and other infrastructural facilities. They seems to be purely for economic purposes. There is no chance that China will get permission to set up naval bases in return for this investment (not talking about Myanmar, there are Chinese bases already there).


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: klf on June 21, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
As China and Russia became more powerful they became more bolder, they want to gain control. And USA would not let that happen. A simple mistake in calculation there could be war.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Beliathon on June 21, 2015, 05:30:27 PM
There is no World War 3, such a thing is no longer possible with today's technology and politics.

Would you sacrifice hundred of thousands of american lives when there would be no need? Would the population, the troops themselves, and their commanders tolerate this needless waste of life?

This is 2015, anything you can accomplish with men on the ground, you can accomplish with far fewer casualties by using bombs. Sure, bombs cost a lot more money, but they've got their friends printing that.

You can't print human lives, that is a toll which can never be fully obscured or ignored. So onto WW3 we go, and our governments are compelled to avoid spending lives, they will naturally resort to spending money to win a bomb war.

Except a bomb war in 2015 isn't a war, not a winnable one anyway. It's the end of civilization, the only way to win that game is to not play. And everyone in power understands this, so I doubt we'll ever see WW3 unless there's mass famine, due to water shortages for example..


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 21, 2015, 05:59:17 PM
As China and Russia became more powerful they became more bolder, they want to gain control. And USA would not let that happen. A simple mistake in calculation there could be war.

It is not about China and Russia attempting to gain control. It is about the NATO and the United States launching proxy wars against these nations. The Americans have been building military bases all around Russia and placing their missiles there (Poland, Lithuania, Romania.etc). They are overthrowing pro-Russian governments through covert means and replacing them with the pro-NATO ones (Ukraine, Macedonia.etc). It is the US which is provoking Russia and China, and not the other way around.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Miracal on June 22, 2015, 02:22:03 PM
I never really believed the world war III can happen so soon but recently, China said that it might be fucking INEVITABLE if U.S doesn't keep their shit together. They say that the U.S keeps messing with the South China Sea affairs. Beijing said that it would now focus less on defensive capabilities, and step up efforts to build offensive capabilities. I don't think China wants to war but if U.S doesn't back off, China might even use 'out of the border' resources against U.S and that shit will end bad.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: edric on June 22, 2015, 04:15:05 PM
Well you did not get what I meant. I meant that through the infrastructure development, it is actually taking the lands and ports for itself, for making military and naval bases. And it does not matter if it is nowhere in exporting arms. It is competing with every top nation in terms of increasing its defense capacity.

I have read about the Chinese investments in countries such as Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Maldives, especially the ones involving ports and other infrastructural facilities. They seems to be purely for economic purposes. There is no chance that China will get permission to set up naval bases in return for this investment (not talking about Myanmar, there are Chinese bases already there).

Well you probably do not know this, Chinese sub-marines are more active now in Indian Ocean. And if they are more active, that means they need bases to dock themselves once in a while.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: rayhan on June 23, 2015, 04:51:40 PM
Not even that, even China is holding on to a large piece of Kashmir which they captured during India-China war in 1962. The dispute between India and China is so old, that it is not possible that it will get under shelves just because of the change in government. I am sure during this new Indian government, the war is bound to happen. Either China or Pakistan or both of them will attack India for sure.

Well... the Sino-Indian conflict occurred more than 50 years ago, and the tensions seems to have cooled down. I hate to say this, but actually it was the incompetence of the Indian rulers at that time (esp. Jawaharlal Nehru), which cost India some 40,000 sq.kms of Aksai Chin. He foolishly trusted the Chinese, and refused to strengthen the border posts along the Johnson Line.

I don't see that trusting someone can be a foolishness. It's true, that China betrayed India's trust, but what if that had not happened. Then Nehru would have been a hero. Isn't it? Pakistan has betrayed India many times. Most recent was of Kargil war I suppose. Indian PM was hugging Pakistan's PM in Pakistan, and Pakistan's army were captuing posts after posts in Kargil region.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Don007 on June 26, 2015, 06:19:49 PM
Looking at the multiple (terrorist) attacks today, we might should expect a world war against IS regions. Sure, currently already multiple countries are participating in bombing IS, but I think terrorist attacks like today make it only worse for them. Maybe more countries will join the armed forces. Too bad also innocent victims will also be part of the death count, but those people in Tunisia laying down on the beach were innocent too.  This world is fucked up.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: cryptocoiner on June 26, 2015, 06:34:47 PM
If World War 3 is only a matter of time. Than how it would start? Who will be fighting who&\? How it will end? And how it's possible if we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the civilization?


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: popcorn1 on June 26, 2015, 08:27:23 PM
YER WITH ME IF YOU DON,T SHUT UP :D :D :D


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: JLynn171 on June 26, 2015, 08:29:47 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

Is it really a question of when or how long until they name what U.S has been doing as the start of it years ago


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 27, 2015, 06:47:10 AM
I don't see that trusting someone can be a foolishness. It's true, that China betrayed India's trust, but what if that had not happened. Then Nehru would have been a hero. Isn't it? Pakistan has betrayed India many times. Most recent was of Kargil war I suppose. Indian PM was hugging Pakistan's PM in Pakistan, and Pakistan's army were captuing posts after posts in Kargil region.

China has been quite aggressive in all of its territorial disputes, and they have used force on more than a dozen occasions in the past 50 years or so. India is not the only victim of the Chinese aggression. Check these incidents:

1. Johnson South Reef Skirmish, 1988 (with Vietnam)
2. Battle of the Paracel Islands, 1974 (with Vietnam)
3. Scarborough Shoal standoff, 2012 (with Philippines)
4. Sino-Soviet border conflict, 1969 (with USSR)

The Chinese, without any provocation invaded the disputed territories in all four incidents. They were successful in #1, #2, and #3, but got their asses kicked by the Soviets during #4.   


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: JarvisTechnology on June 27, 2015, 07:20:52 AM
It is matter of time but as per my search
china is developing rapidly and is set to overpass america economically too. ;)
They have good army, will this cause some agressive actions .
I am  sure if china keeps growing in its populace they will need more land to suport its population so war might be inevitable there  :(


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: BillyBones on June 27, 2015, 10:33:35 AM
Very long way to go, WW3 never happen unless and until the United States of America and Russia fight with their Nuclear power arms and immunizations. Any time the WW3 happens that would be one and only country has to be blame is the United States. If anyone watch keenly Centuries back, Current event, and forthcoming years events will know the reason why, the US have been blamed.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 27, 2015, 11:37:00 AM
Very long way to go, WW3 never happen unless and until the United States of America and Russia fight with their Nuclear power arms and immunizations. Any time the WW3 happens that would be one and only country has to be blame is the United States. If anyone watch keenly Centuries back, Current event, and forthcoming years events will know the reason why, the US have been blamed.

The United States is the most probable candidate to provoke another World War. But at the same time, we should not ignore the other possibilities. There is a chance that a future India vs Pakistan conflict could emerge in to a World War, especially if the ISIS joins on the Pakistani side, to fight the Indians. Pakistan is having some 60-70 nukes in their possession, and they are likely to use them, or pass them on to the ISIS, if a defeat against India seems feasible.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: JLynn171 on June 27, 2015, 01:00:44 PM
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Very long way to go, WW3 never happen unless and until the United States of America and Russia fight with their Nuclear power arms and immunizations. Any time the WW3 happens that would be one and only country has to be blame is the United States. If anyone watch keenly Centuries back, Current event, and forthcoming years events will know the reason why, the US have been blamed.

The United States is the most probable candidate to provoke another World War. But at the same time, we should not ignore the other possibilities. There is a chance that a future India vs Pakistan conflict could emerge in to a World War, especially if the ISIS joins on the Pakistani side, to fight the Indians. Pakistan is having some 60-70 nukes in their possession, and they are likely to use them, or pass them on to the ISIS, if a defeat against India seems feasible.

the media and cleverly wrote out speeches by a man who is a great speaker will twist words that we believe until its too late


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: tvbcof on June 27, 2015, 06:39:28 PM

That's easy.  ISIS is nearly 100% CIA who have no 'islamic' contingent and the 'war' is a psyop.  Obama speaks the truth for once in his miserable life.

This reminds me of GW Bush accidentally (perhaps) speaking the truth:

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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004




Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Nemo1024 on June 28, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
I'll drop this one here as well, as actions speaking for WWIII battle pieces being slowly (so as not to alarm the sheeple) set into position:
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/23/politics/us-armor-tanks-europe-russia-ash-carter/


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Don007 on June 28, 2015, 07:32:27 PM
That's easy.  ISIS is nearly 100% CIA who have no 'islamic' contingent and the 'war' is a psyop.  Obama speaks the truth for once in his miserable life.

This reminds me of GW Bush accidentally (perhaps) speaking the truth:


I can't believe some people actually believe in such things. Sure, during the cold war, the USA supported some folks to fight / defend against communism. Yes, I think these folks are now also involved in "Islam terrorist attacks" / ISIS etc. But that the CIA is actually leading ISIS, or as you mention ISIS contains of about 100% CIA people, makes me laugh. Have you ever seen trained armed forces fight ISIS? If they would contain of 100% CIA members, I'm sure they would have a much better training lol.



Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: matrix zion on June 28, 2015, 07:43:02 PM
It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: ridery99 on June 28, 2015, 08:20:18 PM
Every recent Russian military exercise have included a simulation of nuclear strikes. I think Putin is ready to use them too if necessary.  :)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Don007 on June 28, 2015, 08:29:11 PM
:)

Does that make you happy? Someone using nuclear bombs?

I don't think that nuclear bombs will be used easily; we all know that if a country / party is going to use them, they will get attacked too..

I've read somewhere a great qoute earlier. It mentioned that if World War 3 would ever start, World War 4 would be a war with only sticks and stones (for the few that survived the third one..).


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: usairx on June 28, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.
You're really not giving enough credit to international politics. China would never risk going to war if it meant angering the United States.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: ivanst776 on June 28, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
WW1 was started by some man shooting the Archduke of Austria, so it's certainly all is possible.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: tvbcof on June 28, 2015, 10:55:53 PM

It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.

You're really not giving enough credit to international politics. China would never risk going to war if it meant angering the United States.

China could probably be goaded into it in a very similar way to how Japan was nearing 100 years ago.  Japan was not wild about the idea and China for a variety of reasons is even less so.  Their best strategy is probably to push things out as long as possible and simultaneously try to get the like/hate differential as high as possible.  That way, if/when they need to put boots on the ground the conditions will be more favorable.  Being able to supply endless stream of trinkets only help their efforts if they adopt this strategy.

An alternate strategy would be to join an NWO and set up for the most favorable terms.  Their choice would dictate whether that is practicable.

I may be crazy, but I'd personally prefer global thermo-nuclear war and subsequent re-set to world governance.  The simple reason for this is that life would be more tolerable and the future brighter for those lucky enough to survive the event.  As part of my thought processes here, I would anticipate a significant human population decline even if the current crop of likely leaders did emerge as global rulers.  As species go Homo Sapien seem to be on their shit list and in an increasingly technologically advanced world there is not much to be gained by owning an enormous herd.



Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: saturn643 on June 29, 2015, 01:12:22 AM
WW1 was started by some man shooting the Archduke of Austria, so it's certainly all is possible.
The assassination of the archduke was more of a spark that began the conflict, not a cause.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 29, 2015, 02:25:43 AM
It would probably have to be an incident where Japan provokes China near the Senkaku islands, as both these countries have strong honor codes.

The Chinese bullying works only against smaller nations, such as India, Philippines and Vietnam. When the Chinese attempt it against the powerful nations such as Russia and Japan, they get their asses kicked (remember the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969). And right now, the Japanese Armed Forces are much more powerful and capable, when compared to that of China. So China will wait for a few more decades, to invade the Senkaku.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: photon_coin on June 29, 2015, 03:38:15 AM
the world has been at war, when has it really been at peace,

although i do not like them the books by Toffler in the early 1970's like the power shift discuss how the power is shifting to 'economic power' and wars to 'economic wars'  which we see he predicted to some level of accuracy today


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: Nemo1024 on August 01, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
Russia's had enough of wars waged at it:

‘Third World War would be last for humanity’ – Duma speaker
http://www.rt.com/politics/311146-third-world-war-would-be/

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Russia builds its defenses to prevent wars

“World War III would be the last for the humanity. And strengthening of Russia’s defense potential, including the budgetary decisions passed by the State Duma is done only for one purpose, which is to prevent the war,” Naryshkin stated in a major interview with Izvestia daily, published on Thursday in connection with the anniversary of Russia’s joining WWI on Serbia’s side.

At the same time, the Duma chief promised that Russia would always defend the interests of its allies and “close people,” but not by military means. “We will do this through pressing for strict observation of the international law by others, not by violating it. We want peoples to decide their own destiny on their own land,” he said.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: WhatTheGox on August 02, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.

I feel like while the super elites have control if we do get a war it will be controlled to where all out chaos and death of the whole of humanity doesn't happen.  Part of me finds it interesting to see what might happen.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: tvbcof on August 02, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
Russia's had enough of wars waged at it:

‘Third World War would be last for humanity’ – Duma speaker
http://www.rt.com/politics/311146-third-world-war-would-be/

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Russia builds its defenses to prevent wars

“World War III would be the last for the humanity. And strengthening of Russia’s defense potential, including the budgetary decisions passed by the State Duma is done only for one purpose, which is to prevent the war,” Naryshkin stated in a major interview with Izvestia daily, published on Thursday in connection with the anniversary of Russia’s joining WWI on Serbia’s side.

At the same time, the Duma chief promised that Russia would always defend the interests of its allies and “close people,” but not by military means. “We will do this through pressing for strict observation of the international law by others, not by violating it. We want peoples to decide their own destiny on their own land,” he said.

This is an interesting statement to me.  I've a working hypothesis (adopted from others to be honest) that tensions between the U.S. and China are mostly for show and that both are basically on-board with globalization under a so-called 'one world' power structure.  AKA a 'new world order'.  They may be jockeying for positions in the control structure, but basically share the vision and/or consider it an inescapable eventuality.  Russia's stance here is the main wild-card in this hypothesis.  The phrasing of this statement is interesting to me for this reason.

I think that Russia could do quite well to evaluate instances where a nice environment were made available and it attracted capable people.  The U.S. in pre-WWII times when the rest of the world was devolving into totalitarianism and genocide was one example.  Silicon Valley in more recent times is another.  If Russia does wish the world to remain polar and wish to be competitive in it, they probably do have some potential along these lines due to their inherent strength associated with geography, resources, demographics, history, etc.  Most critically, the outlook in the West seems to be one of increasing austerity and totalitarianism which could provide a differential needed to skim from the world's populations.

Russia got a good start on getting rid of some of their problems after the USSR collapsed by exporting them to the U.S. where they were snapped up.  A good example:  Hasan Ikhrata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCTGYy8LL5Q

http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-head-of-scag-hasan-ikhrata-wants-to.html



Title: This Could Kick-Start WW3
Post by: BADecker on October 05, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
This Could Kick-Start WW3

Fellow patriot,

Don't be fooled... WW3 won't be fought between nations like the first two. And definitely not between the USA and Russia. They know the stakes and they're not stupid enough to risk everything.

No matter how crazy Putin may try to act just to scare the West... he has so much to lose. He's the most powerful man in Russia and he doesn't want to lose that. He'll never go as far as self-destruction.

But small, elite groups of trained fanatics... are crazy enough to kick-start the next world war.

ISIS already set foot on American soil. The 3 jihadist arrested in Brooklyn for planning a bombing are part of a larger plot... According to the FBI there are ISIS members in every state of the Union... just waiting for a sign.

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Make no mistake, ISIS isn't a rational actor like Russia... They have nothing to lose.

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Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: acroman08 on October 05, 2015, 07:10:45 PM
We read it in the news every day.

The world is about due for another war Worldwide. Populations have exploded and Mankind are stepping on each others toes. China is Claiming rights to the Spratly Islands and just about everything near it. The U.S. is still doing battle in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria. Russia is testing the Limits of All of Europe and it's neighbors Doing Flyovers with Bombers almost everywhere.  The stories are endless and so are the countries ever growing as they get involved.

Is this the fate of Mankind? Is this the way to control the problem of over population?

This is not just a chance of WW3 anymore this is only a Question of when.
WW3 is inevitable to happen. right now, China and Philippines are having a dispute about their territories as china is building an air field on the islands which is inside of the Philippine territories,this which might led into a war, if this happens
North Korea might attack the south korea, as china will surely back up the north koreans because of their allegiance, then Us might back up the Philippines and the south korea.

well this is only my assumption of whats gonna happen when china decided to declare war again`ts PH.
please correct me as im not certain if US will back up PH and south korea again`ts war to the china and south korea.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: vero on October 06, 2015, 02:43:32 AM
Well lets see, would I be extremely insightful if I said that even with all the laws in place, there will be another riot in Watts someday.


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 04:36:50 AM
Well lets see, would I be extremely insightful if I said that even with all the laws in place, there will be another riot in Watts someday.


Only if you added the fact that it is the law-makers who obey their own laws the least.

:)


Title: Re: WW3 is only a matter of time.
Post by: DeathProxyX on October 06, 2015, 08:03:33 AM
The current situation in Syria could lead to World War 3. If turkey makes some mistake and down some Russian Jets that could lead to War War 3. Because turkey could drag the Nato and USA into a war with Russia, and Russia could drag China and its allies into this war.