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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/jihadist-us-teen-faces-prison-for-blog-tweets-about-encryption-and-bitcoin/


But, if you're a US banker...

But, if the teen would've tweeted how US dollars could be used to fund said efforts...

He was arrested for tweeting about ISIL and jihadism, not just Bitcoin and encryption. The fact that he is saying that Bitcoin could help ISIL just makes this worse. The media is just using this "connection" to paint Bitcoin in a darker light.

He retweeted how to fund a known criminal organization.

Why the fuck would he get off scott free? Maybe I should get off free if I retweet a specific darknet instruction on how to rape without leaving a genetic evidence in public social media forums?

Your actions carry consequences. Deal with that sht.

Just a dumb kid who tweeted something stupid, at most he should get some kind of community service.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/jihadist-us-teen-faces-prison-for-blog-tweets-about-encryption-and-bitcoin/


But, if you're a US banker...

But, if the teen would've tweeted how US dollars could be used to fund said efforts...

He retweeted how to fund a known criminal organization.

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

He needs to be tortured in Florence ADX federal prison.

"Tried as an adult black male."  ROFL

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

OP, is guys like you that make Bitcoiners seem like whinny cultists.
He's giving ideas to terrorists in how to fund their killings. He would have faced prison if he told them to use Kickstarter. You are stretching this way too much.
But yeah prison is too much, specially for some dumb teen.

The focus of this article is hardly about Bitcoin.  I do not see any spin whatsoever being cast about Bitcoin.  There's nothing here that intentionally casts BTC in a negative light, and omitting any mention of BTC would necessarily omit from the article the reasons for which the boy was actually charged.

The article is about an ISIL sympathizer who tried to directly provide information that could be used to propel terrorists activities using social media.  That's it.

Don't worry, the other periodicals with pick up the mantle: http://fusion.net/story/149244/teen-who-tried-to-give-isis-bitcoin-advice-pleads-guilty-to-supporting-terror/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thisisfusion&hootPostID=0c30f1d9d59b1b6e1963372f01d33f25

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

https://i.imgur.com/Y3Nw2iC.jpg

I truly laughed out loud at your post, sir.  Thank you for making my day, sick as it is.

Tweet a link to bitcoin.org, go to prison?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/jihadist-us-teen-faces-prison-for-blog-tweets-about-encryption-and-bitcoin/


But, if you're a US banker...

But, if the teen would've tweeted how US dollars could be used to fund said efforts...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/meast/isis-currency/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/meast/isis-currency/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)


Sounds like they are printing their own kind of FIAT. More scamcoin. I think this is a great opportunity to show them Bitcoin and get some users from the Middle East. The anonymity and low fees are sure to be a turn on. How can we spread the word and help Bitcoin go TO THE MOON!?

Amin is also accused of radicalizing an 18-year-old Virginia youth, Reza Niknejad, who traveled to Syria in January to join ISIL. Niknejad was charged Wednesday with conspiring to provide material support to ISIL and conspiring to kill and injure people abroad. Amin admitted that he helped Niknejad get a mobile phone, assisted him with travel, and hooked him up with ISIL supporters overseas.

It would have been worse if he had aided and abetted them by providing them with weapons and money.

What charges should be brought against those that do that?

https://anarchodutch.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/mccain-isis.jpg

This entire problem could be solved if Twitter would simply get off their lazy asses and create word filters. They have computer coders that are intelligent enough so that tweets containing the word "bitcoin" can be filtered when used in conjunction with "terrorist related" text content.

If he had worked for HSBC he could have laundered $billions for Mexican drug cartels (nutcases who also chop people to pieces) and got away with no criminal charges....

Just a dumb kid who tweeted something stupid, at most he should get some kind of community service.

Yeah...some journalists are bound to start veering towards irrelevancy.  Still, this new reference doesn't seem to spin much, either.  The first half you mention is a direct quote from the kid's posting.  The second half arguably starts fueling one's imagination, but I'd say it also (arguably) doesn't.  It's information that highlights that his tweet wasn't a one-time promotion, and that he sought alternative avenues to distribute his information.

However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few truly-sensationalist articles come from this event.

I'm curious:  In your opinion, how slanted to you personally believe these articles are?

Edit:  If you want to read some slant, check out my BTC Mag article on early payment processors  :D

A 17-year-old Virginia teen faces up to 15 years in prison for blog and Twitter posts about encryption and Bitcoin that were geared at assisting ISIL, which the US has designated as a terror organization.

The teen, Ali Shukri Amin, who contributed to the Coin Brief news site, pleaded guilty (PDF) Thursday to a federal charge of providing material support to the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant.

FURTHER READING


ISLAMIC STATE TAKES TO SOCIAL MEDIA, HAS ABOUT 46K TWITTER ACCOUNTS
ISIS supporters preferred tweeting with Android over iPhone and Blackberry.
Dana Boente, the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, said the youth's guilty plea "demonstrates that those who use social media as a tool to provide support and resources to ISIL will be identified and prosecuted with no less vigilance than those who travel to take up arms with ISIL."
According to the defendant's signed "Admission of Facts" filed Thursday, Amin started the @amreekiwitness Twitter handle last June and acquired some 4,000 followers and tweeted about 7,000 times. (The Twitter handle has been suspended.) Last July, the teen tweeted a link on how jihadists could use Bitcoin "to fund their efforts."

According to Amin's court admission (PDF):

The article explained what Bitcoins were, how the Bitcoin system worked and suggested using Dark Wallet, a new Bitcoin wallet, which keeps the user of Bitcoins anonymous. The article included statements on how to set up an anonymous donations system to send money, using Bitcoin, to the mujahedeen.
In August, the youth tweeted that the Khilafah—Islam's political system and messenger—needed an official website "ASAP" and that ISIL should stop releasing propaganda "in the wild" and instead should consider using JustPaste.it.

"Through various tweets, the defendant provided information on how to prevent the website from being taken down, by adding security defenses, and he solicited others via Twitter to assist on the development of the website," according to his signed admission.

On his blog, the boy "authored a series of highly technical articles targeted at aspiring jihadists and ISIL supporters detailing the use of security measures in online communications to include the use of encryption and anonymity software, tools and techniques, as well as the use of the virtual currency Bitcoin as a means to anonymously fund ISIL."

Sentencing for the honor student at Osbourn Park High School of Manassas is scheduled for August 28. The boy remains jailed.

Amin's lawyer, Joseph Flood, said his client's motivation was religion and distaste for the Syrian government. "Sometimes people feel frustrated in their inability to effect change against a government committing atrocities," Flood said. "He was blogging on the Internet. It's as simple as that."

Amin is also accused of radicalizing an 18-year-old Virginia youth, Reza Niknejad, who traveled to Syria in January to join ISIL. Niknejad was charged Wednesday with conspiring to provide material support to ISIL and conspiring to kill and injure people abroad. Amin admitted that he helped Niknejad get a mobile phone, assisted him with travel, and hooked him up with ISIL supporters overseas.

He also said he delivered a letter from Niknejad to his family. The letter said that Niknejad "did not plan to see his family again." [\quote]

Full blown police state is coming.. God damn there isn't a single fucking place on this earth you can go and be free from oppression..

I do have one question:
How comes all of these groups that oppose or are against the U.S. keep using american social media to tweet or whatever?

In August 2014, Twitter administrators shut down a number of accounts associated with ISIL. ISIL recreated and publicised new accounts the next day, which were also shut down by Twitter administrators. The group has attempted to branch out into alternative social media sites, such as Quitter, Friendica and Diaspora; Quitter and Friendica, however, almost immediately worked to remove ISIL's presence from their sites.

He supplied information on how to use Bitcoin to fund the USA enemies.

Deal with it... He is a traitor, living in the USA. His actions may cause the death of US citizens. He did not just tweet about Bitcoin... He supplied information on how to use Bitcoin to fund the USA enemies.

OCTOBER 2, 2014 BY MAHER ZAIDI: ISIS Don’t Need No Stinking Bitcoins (http://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/10/02/isis-dont-need-stinking-bitcoins/)

I still don't understand why the American government gives assylum to all these terrorists. Take the example of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother, Tamerlan. They arrived in the United States from Chechenya, due to their classification as "refugees fleeing the Russian terror". If you play with fire, you get burned.

Seriously send him to the groups he claims to support with a live link GoPro strapped to his head and make a reality show, 'Mohahamed meets the Terrorists'. I'll watch.

lol I don't think a reality show would last longer than one episode, he'd probably get blown up on his first attempt making IED's. At least it would be in full HD, most ISIS propaganda videos look like they were recorded on a potato.

Hmm... I always got the opposite impression.

The few ISIS propaganda videos I've seen looked very professionally done (close to Hollywood standards in fact) and highly polished in terms of editing and production.

EDIT: Here a CNN Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RvKNc2N6OU

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/jihadist-us-teen-faces-prison-for-blog-tweets-about-encryption-and-bitcoin/


But, if you're a US banker...

But, if the teen would've tweeted how US dollars could be used to fund said efforts...

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev immigrated to the United States in 2002 when he was just eight years old. There was really nothing to indicate that he and his brother would become terrorists and his family had no links to terrorist groups or religious extremism.

Terrorism is what I feel when a cop stops me for speeding and walks up to my car with his hand on his gun. Every time this happens I cross my fingers that he hasn't had a bad day and decides to shoot me instead of giving me a ticket.

That's not terrorism. You were pulled over so many time, yet you still remain in one piece. Plus you admitted yourself that you were speeding. Thank America that you only got some tickets. If ISIS pulls you over for speeding, they will cut off your hands. Actually they will not pull you over. They will just spray bullets to your car and you and your car will be looked like swiss cheese. Wach PBS documentary from below link and you will see.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/rise-of-isis/

That's not terrorism. You were pulled over so many time, yet you still remain in one piece. Plus you admitted yourself that you were speeding. Thank America that you only got some tickets. If ISIS pulls you over for speeding, they will cut off your hands. Actually they will not pull you over. They will just spray bullets to your car and you and your car will be looked like swiss cheese. Wach PBS documentary from below link and you will see.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/rise-of-isis/

They used this tweet as proof that ISIS is using bitcoins for recruitment and paying for their terrorist operations.

The war propaganda machine is alive and well.

These dummies are trying to give bitcoin a bad name.

Full blown police state is coming.. God damn there isn't a single fucking place on this earth you can go and be free from oppression..

Yeah man, just because society has rules and enforces them, that's not terrorizing you.  A cop has every right to keep his hand on his service revolver--it's a dangerous job.  I'd rather deal with a police officer, whom I respect, than some religiously delusional Muslim terrorist any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Now then, can I get some bitcoin.

So he was nicked for posting his theory on something a bit controversial. Farfetched much?

That's not terrorism. You were pulled over so many time, yet you still remain in one piece. Plus you admitted yourself that you were speeding. Thank America that you only got some tickets. If ISIS pulls you over for speeding, they will cut off your hands. Actually they will not pull you over. They will just spray bullets to your car and you and your car will be looked like swiss cheese. Wach PBS documentary from below link and you will see.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/rise-of-isis/

Both ISIS and Government put forth arbitrary rules that they use as an excuse to control and/or exploit you.

Obviously we don't live in the same neighborhood. Cops have killed lots of people in California. We have a riot because of a bad shooting every couple of years. I just think cops have way too much discretion for people carrying a gun.

Maybe I should get off free if I retweet a specific darknet instruction on how to rape without leaving a genetic evidence in public social media forums?

Full blown police state is coming..

The war propaganda machine is alive and well.

If he had worked for HSBC he could have laundered $billions for Mexican drug cartels (nutcases who also chop people to pieces) and got away with no criminal charges....

Just a dumb kid who tweeted something stupid, at most he should get some kind of community service.

Sealand :-)

turtlehurricane the FBI,CIA, NID and Home Land Security are keeping an eye one you! :o

In my post, I compared a cop to a delusional sky-daddy-loving Islamic Muhammed-fucker and I stand by what I said.  No offense meant to Muslims.  

No doubt there are bad shootings but this is the price we pay to have police carry weapons.  Can you imagine if police in the US didn't carry guns?  Criminals would be having high carnival in California.

Britain, Ireland, Norway, Iceland and New Zealand, officers are unarmed when they are on patrol. Police are only equipped with firearms in special circumstances. It's a strategy that seems to work surprisingly well for these countries. Police officers there have saved lives because they were unable to shoot.

That's not terrorism. You were pulled over so many time, yet you still remain in one piece. Plus you admitted yourself that you were speeding. Thank America that you only got some tickets. If ISIS pulls you over for speeding, they will cut off your hands. Actually they will not pull you over. They will just spray bullets to your car and you and your car will be looked like swiss cheese. Wach PBS documentary from below link and you will see.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/rise-of-isis/

The title is quite misleading. He wasn't arrested for tweeting about Bitcoin but rather for providing information that assists and promotes terror. Had he simply tweeted about BTC then he wouldn't be facing any criminal charges. He was arrested for mentioning ISIS and providing information that was useful to them.

Though you know how this will turn out for bitcoin. He helped IS with Bitcoins that means, for the eyes of non-bitcoiners, that bitcoin is bad and a tool to support terrorism.

But then, the media witchdoctors can spin any story as per their liking...

Bitcoin wasn't much relevent in his arrest. He was arrested mainly for supporting the ISIS, and acting as a recruiter for the same terrorist group. Other than a few random tweets about Bitcoin, the accused hasn't used the Bitcoin technology in any way, to help the Islamic State terrorists. But then, the media witchdoctors can spin any story as per their liking...

I agree that tweeting is not some huge crime by itself but kid should be punished accordingly imo.

The title is quite misleading. He wasn't arrested for tweeting about Bitcoin but rather for providing information that assists and promotes terror. Had he simply tweeted about BTC then he wouldn't be facing any criminal charges. He was arrested for mentioning ISIS and providing information that was useful to them.

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

https://i.imgur.com/Y3Nw2iC.jpg

Bloody Bitcoin CEO tweeting about BTC to ISIS...

Though you know how this will turn out for bitcoin. He helped IS with Bitcoins that means, for the eyes of non-bitcoiners, that bitcoin is bad and a tool to support terrorism.

I guess OP wanted to point out that again bitcoin was blamed for helping terrorists, even though this connection is far fetched, i mean where are the headlines about western union helping scammers all over the world, but you know probably that journalists love these kind of stories and bitcoin will be blamed for sure. Or get a damaged reputation for some non bitcoiners.

Countries such as Ireland, Iceland, NZL, and Norway are in general peaceful countries, and it will be OK, even if the cops are not armed. But you can't apply the same logic in the United States, and say that policemen patrolling high crime areas there should go unarmed.

And at least in the case of Norway, it didn't worked out that well. Anders Behring Breivik was able to massacre close to 100 people, as the cops who were present were not armed. If some one had a fire-arm with him, then Breivik would have been taken out before killing more than 10 people.

“I was rather surprised to find there are no statistics,” Fisher said. “The answer to me is pretty obvious: the government just doesn’t want us to know how many people are shot by the police every year.”

In 2011, Fisher scoured the Internet several times a day every day, compiling a database of every officer-involved shooting he could find. Ultimately, he tracked 1,146 shootings by police officers, 607 of them fatal shootings.

“I was surprised at how many shootings, a reasonable person would conclude, were unnecessary,” Fisher said.

Remember that he has entered in to a plea bargain. That means that he will be out in less than 6-7 years time. This is a relatively light sentence, for acting as recruiter for the ISIS. The ISIS scum has killed some 300,000 people in the last 2 years, and they have almost exterminated entire communities of minorities in the area under their control.

Exactly this. We have seen this kind of bitcoin news way too often so that we know very sure how journalists will twist the story. You know... bitcoin and terrorism is a really nice headline. There are enough fiends of bitcoin that would welcome such news. And i mean even politicians that, maybe were lobbied, to defend bitcoin.

Kid was helping these lunatics, he should be tried as an adult black male:

https://i.imgur.com/Y3Nw2iC.jpg

In my opinion, the dude should be facing a death penalty, and not only up to 15 years behind bars.

I second that opinion. The guy should be facing the death penalty. He supported some schizophrenic maniacs who murder hundreds, if not thousands of innocent people every day. He should be considered as an active member of the ISIS, and the punishment should be given according to it. But it seems that, since he entered in to a plea bargain, he will be out in 6 or 7 years.

And still, there will be idiots here who think that Ross Ullbricht is a bigger criminal than this ISIS sympathizer.

... but, Ross made millions with commission of drug sales and he also ordered hitman to kill people. This ISIS fanboy just wrote about how everyone incl. ISIS can use Bitcoin for transactions. Death penalty? WTF?!

... but, Ross made millions with commission of drug sales and he also ordered hitman to kill people. This ISIS fanboy just wrote about how everyone incl. ISIS can use Bitcoin for transactions. Death penalty? WTF?!

I second that opinion. The guy should be facing the death penalty. He supported some schizophrenic maniacs who murder hundreds, if not thousands of innocent people every day. He should be considered as an active member of the ISIS, and the punishment should be given according to it. But it seems that, since he entered in to a plea bargain, he will be out in 6 or 7 years.

And still, there will be idiots here who think that Ross Ullbricht is a bigger criminal than this ISIS sympathizer.

I accept that Ross made millions in commissions from Silk Road. But is that crime punishable by life in prison without parole? And the evidences which the FBI presented, to claim that he attempted to kill someone just looks like cooked up ones. And for the millionth time, I urge you to read the previous posts. I advocated death penalty for someone who acted as a recruiter for the ISIS.

I second that opinion. The guy should be facing the death penalty. He supported some schizophrenic maniacs who murder hundreds, if not thousands of innocent people every day. He should be considered as an active member of the ISIS, and the punishment should be given according to it. But it seems that, since he entered in to a plea bargain, he will be out in 6 or 7 years.

And still, there will be idiots here who think that Ross Ullbricht is a bigger criminal than this ISIS sympathizer.

Well i think they both deserve lifetime in jail. ISIS supporters are insane at the lease, so the death penalty would be more appropriate, because i doubt there is anyone who will
trust him to stop his lunatic support after he gets out of jail. Ross on the other hand is pretty intelligent person imho, and even tho he deserves what he got (lifetime), i would
rather see him on freedom than i would for the ISIS guy. Ross aka DPR atleast had some rules about what he was allowing on SR, meaning that he had atleast some morals.

cheers

Don't complicate things. You made it clear: You are positive with killing a 17ys old ISIS fanboy, who actually didn't kill anyone and at the same time you think, that the life sentence given to a druglord, who ordered to kill 6 people, is too harsh. Now you call everybody with a different opinion an idiot. Face it: Ross Ulbricht is indeed the bigger criminal and you are the hysteric idiot driven by FUD.

OK. I will keep it simple. All ISIS members should be killed, as they are a curse to the humanity. That unfortunately includes this 17 year old individual. And I don't think Ross Ullbricht was a druglord. He was an administrator of a dark market. He never dealt with drugs himself. And once again, your claim that he ordered to kill people lacks evidence.

His own written journal correlates with the action of agent Carl Force. This is proof enough for an "attempted murder" charge.

But you know what? Your nazi gabbling makes me puke. You are not better than the Nazis or the Red Khmer or even ISIS themselves.

I don't care what the FBI put in his journal. And Carl Force, at the best is a shady character. I will trust Ross Ullbricht more than someone like Carl Force.


If you are suffering from symptoms such as vomiting, diarrhoea.etc, then I strongly recommend you to consult a physician. Make sure that the (verbal) diarrhoea doesn't develop in to full blown dysentry.

I don't think a 17 year old kid should be killed for supporting terrorism, but I do think he should be charged.

Your idiot posting is not even worth commenting. Keep on with your genocide promoting here instead: https://npd.de/
You will find a lot of supporters for your nazi shit.

I don't think a 17 year old kid should be killed for supporting terrorism, but I do think he should be charged. You can't talk about how to fund a terrorist organization. If he were talking about using Us currency to fund terrorism, he would face the same charges.

He was an enemy of the state and should be dealt with accordingly.

Anyway we are expecting that he will get his rights as human rights. 

BCX can confirm that 3-4 years ago no matter how bad the news was everyone believed that any news was good for Bitcoin. Going by that logic you should all support the little psycho because he's promoting Bitcoin. Times are changing I guess. This forum disgusts me now because all the new people are level headed and normal. lol

I think the reason is because every news about bitcoin WERE actually good news. There were no politicians or bankers that feared the impact of bitcoin because none of them realized how big this will become. So all the bitcoin nerds sat around and found their magical internet money mentioned in the news. GREAT... ;)

BCX can confirm that 3-4 years ago no matter how bad the news was everyone believed that any news was good for Bitcoin. Going by that logic you should all support the little psycho because he's promoting Bitcoin. Times are changing I guess. This forum disgusts me now because all the new people are level headed and normal. lol

there was a similar case of a minor guy that was insulting someone else when they were playing on counter strike and a received a complaint, and afterward he faced prison as well

Prison for an insult? Are you sure that you didnt miss something? I cant imagine that naming or insulting would possibly bring you into jail in the US. Even with hate speak, racist things or something. Nothing of that should be worth prison. Oo

i'm trying to find the source it happened 1-2 years ago

i can't find it for now, but there is this similar cases
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/people-arrested-for-facebook-posts-2013-7?op=1&IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/06/29/texas-teen-facing-eight-years-after-violent-league-of-legends-threat/

In my opinion everybody have the right to use Bitcoin whoever they are...whatever they are Banker, President, Emperor, Students or even Terorist....They have the same right to use bitcoin as same as they We use USD same as they

So much for being the land of the free. The title is misleading and sensationalist though. Pretty sure he's not facing prison for tweeting about bitcoin.

Yeah.. whenever some lowlife terrorist gets arrested, we can expect this outcry that his human rights are being violated. What about the Yazidis and Christians of Syria and Iraq? What about their human rights? What about the human rights of the 9-year old Yazidi girl, who became pregnant as a result of gang rape by the ISIS? ISIS terrorists don't deserve any human rights, since they are not human.