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Title: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on June 17, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: NyeFe on June 17, 2015, 01:18:01 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

I've thought about this, hilariously enough it is similar to Christianity, Catholicism....  I.e. CryptoCurrencies, Bitcoin and Satoshi  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Xialla on June 17, 2015, 01:21:02 PM
for some guys, which are heavily invested and involved, betted everything possible to crypto and lurking whole day on crypto webs, reading all articles, running rigs...

religion is not maybe the precise word to describe their relation to crypto, but in some way is may become true..at least I can imagine it. if somebody is fanatic to something, it may become religion for sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Daniel91 on June 17, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
If religion means to believe in the success of something, on the basis of something that has yet to happen, then yes, bitcoin is a religion for all of us :)
But, this is not much different from faith in other things, family, favorite clubs etc.
We tend to believe in many different things but probably we need to find another name for it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: turvarya on June 17, 2015, 01:49:08 PM
There are just people, who make a religion out of everything.
Look at it, this way: You could believe in Jesus Christ, just as a historical person, who did interesting things for his time. That wouldn't make you a religious person, would it?
So, just because there are fanatics, who think, cryptocurrency will release us from the evil in the world, doesn't mean it is a religion. There are always fanatics.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on June 17, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
for some guys, which are heavily invested and involved, betted everything possible to crypto and lurking whole day on crypto webs, reading all articles, running rigs...

religion is not maybe the precise word to describe their relation to crypto, but in some way is may become true..at least I can imagine it. if somebody is fanatic to something, it may become religion for sure.

It is obvious that one of the main keys for a crypto (or for any currency) to succeed is network effect, thats why Bitcoin is #1 and likely will not change anytime soon. Network effect is basically trust.. and so therein lies a sense of belief into it. You believe that Bitcoin will turn out a massive success. In this sense you could say it is a religion, but is based on fact and math unlike the rest of the ones (including fiat).


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Digit-0 on June 17, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
i would not say that, but is pretty close to that, at least for some ppl, you just need to read how they talk about it :P but most of the bitcoiners just believe in the success of BTC and this is not enought to compare it with religion.



Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: OmegaStarScream on June 17, 2015, 02:13:25 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

I don't think that Digital currancies are religions at all , I believe in bitcoin and that it has potentional and will do a huge success on the world probably & I don't think that "religion" is the first thing that comes in mind when you see the relation between a user and something . I believe in other things that will be succesfull that dosen't make them my religion or anything if you ask me
For me (and it's just my personal opinion) Religion is what is made by God and prophets (Muslims, Christians , Jewish) those are Religious people anything else isn't . (Including Yoga , budha etc..which is made by humain)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: WhatTheGox on June 17, 2015, 02:15:42 PM
If religion means to believe in the success of something, on the basis of something that has yet to happen, then yes, bitcoin is a religion for all of us :)
But, this is not much different from faith in other things, family, favorite clubs etc.
We tend to believe in many different things but probably we need to find another name for it.


People who believe in the state or do not question the state are more "religious" nut jobs vs bitcoiners imo.  I dont think you can class bitcoin as a religion though, people act religious over it sure.  Its more a sociological philosophy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Chavez on June 17, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

No. It's nothing of the sort. Maybe they could offer us financial and economical salvation, though  :D.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: qwk on June 17, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?
Some users of cryptocurrencies may be religiously following their respective favorite.
Following that logic, you could always declare any sport as a religion as well.

True religions are not easily defined, but typical characteristics include dogmatic belief in absolute truths.
I fail to see that in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency.

So the answer is no.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Buttknuckle on June 17, 2015, 02:22:21 PM
I don't really see the connection between religions and cryptos.  Maybe if you only use the loosest definition of religion.  OTOH we do have our messiah (Satoshi), but we seem to lack a codified centralized belief system.  But we do have the OTHER - christians currently have gays, and we have banks, PP, CC, et. al.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: ayesha201006 on June 17, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Religion lol are you serious?  OK I see the connection you are trying to make but I can;t see anything spiritual about bitcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: RustyNomad on June 17, 2015, 02:25:20 PM
At least its a religion without any lies and or half truths.....


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: melody82 on June 17, 2015, 02:39:48 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

I really don't wee what is magic or spiritual about any crypto.  Perhaps this could be the next great gimmick in cryptos: Faithcoin, the coin in which you can BELIEVE lol.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: unamis76 on June 17, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
I definitely don't see this as a religion. A religion has a God, which was never been seen, and who lives on people's minds. A religion is based on things that cannot be seen, but only believed in. Bitcoin can definitely be seen and it's "truthness" can be proved with science and mathematics :) It's actually quite the opposite of a religion...

This is a bit more like a football/soccer club, or any other sports club :) We have "fans", people who spread news about their "team", we have "coaches", "players"... :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Argwai96 on June 17, 2015, 02:47:36 PM
I definitely don't see this as a religion. A religion has a God, which was never been seen, and who lives on people's minds. A religion is based on things that cannot be seen, but only believed in. Bitcoin can definitely be seen and it's "truthness" can be proved with science and mathematics :) It's actually quite the opposite of a religion...

This is a bit more like a football/soccer club, or any other sports club :) We have "fans", people who spread news about their "team", we have "coaches", "players"... :D

could shatoshi nakamoto be our the god for bitcoin? would the Scientology church be more of a place to talk about bitcoin?

I know i read somewhere if we get more then 10k people together we could form a church, maybe it could be done for the extreme fanatics.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Amph on June 17, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
no i don't think so, i can see it as a new instrument for toying, emotional attacking and defending, appear in every environment, it isn't something related to religion only(unless you want to classify everything as a religion), it appear especially in gaming

i think that bitcoin is more akin to the gaming industry then anything else


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: DarkHyudrA on June 17, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
Cryptocurrencies is almost an "idealism", with the focus on changing the way money is used and "held" by people, but only because we believe in the potencial of cryptocurrencies it doesn't make it a religion.

At least its a religion without any lies and or half truths.....


Satoshi created Bitcoin, but who is Satoshi?
It's almost the same thing with Jesus.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: jayce on June 17, 2015, 03:03:53 PM
I have no idea about this, it sounds ridiculous. I think people just love bitcoin so much, like world people loving the real money. We don't need to worship something that was created by humans. Don't make any new religion like O or Sciencetology.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 17, 2015, 03:06:26 PM
http://up.picr.de/22268686qb.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 17, 2015, 03:08:14 PM
I don't see bitcoin as similar to a religion in any way at all. I will pray for us to go to the moon though if I'm told that'd work  ;D ;D
In all seriousness the only way bitcoin could even remotely be similar to bitcoin is that we're a group of people with faith in something that isn't proven yet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Argwai96 on June 17, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
Guys we could do this actually, there is guides all over the internet in how to be legally recognized has a religion, http://www.apath.org/creating_religion.html



Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Beliathon on June 17, 2015, 03:29:01 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?
There's always a few nutters in every bunch, but in most cases it's just a hobby, also certainly a profession for many on these boards, and nothing more than a useful tool for others (ie those who don't romantize bitcoin, but value its function in their lives only).

Guys we could do this actually, there is guides all over the internet in how to be legally recognized has a religion, http://www.apath.org/creating_religion.html
If you do any such thing I will look forward to buying ads in your area mocking and deriding you as fraudsters.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: 1K on June 17, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
Guys we could do this actually, there is guides all over the internet in how to be legally recognized has a religion, http://www.apath.org/creating_religion.html



We don't need this nonsense about being a religion. Makes us look and sound crazy and stupid. Bitcoin is political for sure but not religious and I don't want it to be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Argwai96 on June 17, 2015, 03:40:02 PM
Lets say a Bitcoin church there is a lot of pros specially on the tax part, check out the irs guidelines for churches and religions http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 17, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg/330px-Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: eerygarden on June 17, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
Similarities are

  • it's imaginary
  • it has it's commandments (rules)


any more?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: johnyj on June 17, 2015, 10:39:18 PM
The religion is on mathematics and network. Natural science has become the new religion for human since 1800. No one can change the mathematics and physics rules, so the power of science is above human and got worshiped like god


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: NorrisK on June 17, 2015, 10:44:39 PM
I guess it is more like a cult where some of the people that want to get rid of banks are in charge, then you have the sheep that just wow at everything that's being said by the leaders.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: eerygarden on June 17, 2015, 11:00:08 PM
I guess it is more like a cult where some of the people that want to get rid of banks are in charge, then you have the sheep that just wow at everything that's being said by the leaders.
It has its fair share of protestors too what with the "gavincoin".
Old testament/new testament?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dollarneed on June 18, 2015, 01:34:38 AM
unfortunately i would say no that bitcoin is not a religion i think bitcoin its like your deep and lovely passion that you're gonna expend your time your consentrate and even your life for it and you just wanna try your best to earn some profit from it :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: thebenjamincode on June 18, 2015, 01:45:33 AM
i don't think that crypto currency is a religion
i believe that it is more of a group of people using its technology


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: bitnanigans on June 18, 2015, 08:00:42 AM
I think it's quite similar to how console wars (PS vs XBox), or OS wars (Apple vs Microsoft), or comic book wars (Marvel vs DC) play out. People will defend anything they're attached to or they're fans of to the very end. Fun fact: The word "fan" is derived from fanatic. :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: jayce on June 18, 2015, 09:52:43 AM
The religion is on mathematics and network. Natural science has become the new religion for human since 1800. No one can change the mathematics and physics rules, so the power of science is above human and got worshiped like god

Natural science is just phenomenons in the world. Math and network are just the method to study about that. Why do we need to worship them? I think human are smarter than that. Religion is something that can introduce you who God is, and make you feel better if you pray to Him when you facing a hard problem. I don't think natural science, mathematics, or network can do that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Kakmakr on June 18, 2015, 10:28:59 AM
If you listen to all these Bitcoin Nicknames like BitCoinJesus etc. etc. you might think you are in church. There are loads of people, who worship money. If you worship "Bitcoin" with a secret creator, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Do you think there are people worshiping their credit cards or their PayPal accounts?

It's just a great technology and a fun hobby, nothing more and nothing less. ^Lmao^


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Xenoph0bia on June 18, 2015, 04:16:00 PM
i would not say that, but is pretty close to that, at least for some ppl, you just need to read how they talk about it :P but most of the bitcoiners just believe in the success of BTC and this is not enought to compare it with religion.



Yeah we want to enjoy the success attached to bitcoins we don't want to get into any religious belief or believe that bitcoin is a religion or not. And it would be too early to say that. We are just investors and we have our religion too and which is more important than holding the bitcoins I guess. Bitcoin is a fun but a religion is not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deluxeCITY on June 18, 2015, 04:18:01 PM
Some devs treat their coin like a religion. They dev and dev and dev even on shitcoins that are going down the drain.
It should be considered a disease.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Hazir on June 18, 2015, 04:40:44 PM
I have no idea about this, it sounds ridiculous. I think people just love bitcoin so much, like world people loving the real money. We don't need to worship something that was created by humans. Don't make any new religion like O or Sciencetology.
You could make everything a religion. No surprise really. We had some idiotic and total random examples of bullshit religions in the past. If people are devoted to certain point they will worship flying spaghetti monster or jedi. I am sure that there will be some bitcoins fanatics too...


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: edric on June 18, 2015, 04:56:27 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

Great words but I think it is not the case. It is human tendency to try and win and be over the top of others. If you relate this to bitcoins, then I suppose you would have to relate it to every other businesses. Like stock market, oil trades, or anything that involves a market where the commodity prices are volatile.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: ikydesu on June 18, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

LOL, and of course satoshi as GOD :D Too much fanaticism is so bad right ;)

Why always people out there with with the misguided thoughts :-\

Guys we could do this actually, there is guides all over the internet in how to be legally recognized has a religion, http://www.apath.org/creating_religion.html


This is so astray :D


~iki


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: mearylll on June 18, 2015, 05:06:29 PM
Some devs treat their coin like a religion. They dev and dev and dev even on shitcoins that are going down the drain.
It should be considered a disease.

Or I think it is an Addiction of people towards bitcoin. They want to earn more and more bitcoins and in quick time so they trade, they even Gamble to double their bitcoins and end up loosing. So I believe we should consider bitcoin just as a currency and we are using if just for fun.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: btc-facebook on June 18, 2015, 05:23:39 PM
I think it's not. Bitcoin is being created by human and everything can be proven + being calculated.
Religion is something based in trust. Can't be proven even with human calculation.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: wearepoor on June 18, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
I think it's not. Bitcoin is being created by human and everything can be proven + being calculated.
Religion is something based in trust. Can't be proven even with human calculation.

Exactly Even I believe it is not the Religion. It is just a currency and we need to be more practical before making investment in bitcoins and should be ready for any consequences that it has to offer in future and may be it is profit or losses.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: oblivi on June 18, 2015, 06:09:09 PM
I think it's not. Bitcoin is being created by human and everything can be proven + being calculated.
Religion is something based in trust. Can't be proven even with human calculation.
Bitcoin is far from a religion, but one still needs to trust that people will use it in the future, thats why we make more and hold, because we believe in it being a great upgrade from conventional money, the difference is this believing is based on fact instead of some metamagical fairytale.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: zeraTunerse on June 18, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
I think it's not. Bitcoin is being created by human and everything can be proven + being calculated.
Religion is something based in trust. Can't be proven even with human calculation.
Bitcoin is far from a religion, but one still needs to trust that people will use it in the future, thats why we make more and hold, because we believe in it being a great upgrade from conventional money, the difference is this believing is based on fact instead of some metamagical fairytale.

Holding it for a while can prove to be a profitable decision in the future. As nobody knows what would be the scenario in a future. But as a part of Bitcoin Community we believe that it will grow in future and proved to be the best investment for the investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 12, 2015, 12:45:57 PM
I think it's not. Bitcoin is being created by human and everything can be proven + being calculated.
Religion is something based in trust. Can't be proven even with human calculation.

The value of any currency is based entirely in faith, like it or not.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Meuh6879 on July 12, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

gov are sect.  ::)
i prefer crypto-religious ... mathematic more faiplay.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 12, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

gov are sect.  ::)
i prefer crypto-religious ... mathematic more faiplay.  ;D

Very true. :)

Similarities are

  • it's imaginary
  • it has it's commandments (rules)

any more?

Have you read the article in the first post? It outlines quite a few.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: ShamrockHannah on July 12, 2015, 12:58:59 PM
I would say it is more of a lifestyle rather than a religion. Most religions have some form of prayer and a building of worship, BTC does not have this. Unless there is something I am missing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: BillyBones on July 12, 2015, 01:13:39 PM
I really do not know why do you compare this materialistic things with Religion, So far I know the term Religion means; They way of God and submitting Ourselves to him by following his commands as mentioned in the divine books as told by his messengers. Now where Bitcoin relates to this religion statement, appreciate your clarification.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Q7 on July 12, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
I don't know whether i would call it a religion but the fact is whatever support we put in and commit ourselves to system is by itself already considered some form of trust. If you define that as a religion, yeah probably you can say that. But is money also another form of religion? If you ask me, just look at how some people worship its existence.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 21, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
I would say it is more of a lifestyle rather than a religion. Most religions have some form of prayer and a building of worship, BTC does not have this. Unless there is something I am missing.

The 'building' of worship is the computer, and running a node or miner gives you a sense of being 'connected with the world'. Often people set out to preach online, for whatever reason.

Everyone wants their own blockchain, because they want total control. They want to play god.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: QuestionAuthority on July 21, 2015, 05:06:02 PM
Religion : A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

Bitcoin: A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

No, it doesn't translate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: b-trading on July 21, 2015, 05:25:38 PM
You are really crazy if you think that cryptocurrency is a religion. It is just a kind or a new kind of money that use mostly on the internet transaction..how could you think cryptocurrency is a religion and even many government in around the declare that bitcoin is ilegal..


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: manselr on July 21, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Religion : A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

Bitcoin: A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

No, it doesn't translate.

Both take faith into the future being positive, of course that our faith is based on objective optimistic indicators while religion is based only and only on non-reasonable beliefs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 21, 2015, 05:47:28 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

Our holy book:


http://insidebitcoins.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/BookofSatoshi2.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 21, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Religion : A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

Bitcoin: A bullshit fantasy story created to control the masses while keeping them from being afraid to die.

No, it doesn't translate.

Plenty of religions make no such claims. And are you stating that accumulating wealth isn't a form of self-preservation? "To the moon"


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: nerFohanzo on July 21, 2015, 06:23:33 PM
i would not say that, but is pretty close to that, at least for some ppl, you just need to read how they talk about it :P but most of the bitcoiners just believe in the success of BTC and this is not enought to compare it with religion.



Yeah it is too early to call it as an religion but yes For me I think it has become an addiction. The more I earn the more I want. I keep on thinking how to keep on multiplying my bitcoins so in future I don't have to depend on any other investment products. So for me I think its an addiction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Hopalong on July 21, 2015, 06:32:57 PM
First time i heard about bitcoin was from someone who sounded like they had just been blessed by a good. The person was full of crap about how this was changing everything and a lot of bullshit about redistribution of wealth.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Za1n on July 21, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
But is money also another form of religion? If you ask me, just look at how some people worship its existence.

I was going to post this argument, but seen you already beat me to it. :)

I agree completely in that if it is fair to call bitcoin a religion, which there are some good argument for doing so, it is also valid to call fiat, or money in general, a form of religion.

They are all based on systems of belief. Most fiat, is simply paper bills representing something. That something is that the next person or entity you exchange the paper with will honor the value printed on the bill. Same with the numbers on your bank account, simply 1's and 0's in a computer that people agree mean something, namely how much money you have.

Bitcoin is the same way, currently its valuation is based more upon its speculative value, determined mainly by traders. Or in other words, the current belief of what it should be worth amongst different groups of people.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Za1n on July 21, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
First time i heard about bitcoin was from someone who sounded like they had just been blessed by a good. The person was full of crap about how this was changing everything and a lot of bullshit about redistribution of wealth.

I always like people who have been blessed by goods. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dothebeats on July 21, 2015, 06:45:35 PM
You are really crazy if you think that cryptocurrency is a religion. It is just a kind or a new kind of money that use mostly on the internet transaction..how could you think cryptocurrency is a religion and even many government in around the declare that bitcoin is ilegal..

Money, though not a religion, is worship by many people. I don't know why but it's been like this for a millennium now. A religion is a trust-based system--you believe that there is a higher power beyond you. Fiat is a trust-based system--you believe that those imprinted paper money has value. Bitcoin is a trustless cash system, but still you believe those blocks of data has value. All contains a common denominator, trust/belief. By definition of a religion, bitcoin can be considered as a religion because you believe that those blocks of data contains value.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 21, 2015, 06:51:27 PM
bitcoin is not a religion. but I've seen people creates a new religion just because they think god is behind this or that so I won't be surprised if people started calling bitcoin a religion ten years from now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 21, 2015, 08:13:15 PM
well bitcoin is like religion why? they need followers to share the word about it,we owners of bitcoins must see it atleast twice a week and stay with them a while,for me bitcoin has became one kind of religious .


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: gripflierGO on July 21, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
bitcoin is not a religion. but I've seen people creates a new religion just because they think god is behind this or that so I won't be surprised if people started calling bitcoin a religion ten years from now.

10 years is also something impossible. It will take more then 20 years for the people to consider it as a religion, but again we are not sure whether it will survive for next 20 years or not as it will face competitions from new currencies that would enter into the market in the future so it is better we just treat as a digital currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: hikedoon on July 21, 2015, 10:23:07 PM
 Back in the 90's there were people trying to start religions based on Ecstasy and Rave's.
 I'm in no doubt that sooner or later someone will try to start a religion about Bitcoin. ;D
 Seem's to be a common thing for us human's to do.
 I've got a sneaky feeling that Satoshi has a great sense of humour too.
 6 days and Genesis Block made me chuckle when i first read it. ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: umaOuma on July 22, 2015, 12:03:58 AM
bitcoin is not a religion. but I've seen people creates a new religion just because they think god is behind this or that so I won't be surprised if people started calling bitcoin a religion ten years from now.

10 years is also something impossible. It will take more then 20 years for the people to consider it as a religion, but again we are not sure whether it will survive for next 20 years or not as it will face competitions from new currencies that would enter into the market in the future so it is better we just treat as a digital currency.

Almost Impossible.

I don't think that bitcoin can be a religion sooner or later, Is fiat a religion?? We are using it since its inception and it is still treated just as currency then how can anyone expect that bitcoin will become religion. Its better that it is currency and let it be the currency. And any currency as a religion, not possible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: BIT-Sharon on July 22, 2015, 01:37:05 AM
From the philosophic proof, bitcoin is the product made by Satoshi, Jesus is the son of god and the christian believes in doctrine which is extensive and profound. I don't think bitcoin is a belief, it's a hobby or worship at most, it is too serious to say belief.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: CEG5952 on July 22, 2015, 01:40:01 AM
So Religions are now into bitcoin? In what way did bitcoin disobey the laws of Religions? I don't think there's any connection to bitcoin and Religion and I don't think bitcoin is considered as a belief either.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 22, 2015, 03:26:04 AM
dont connect into old religions bitcoins brings hope and dreams to all and there is real proof that it can make several people happy


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Amph on July 22, 2015, 07:20:31 AM
not religion but you can see it as a niche market for nerds, still trapped in that enviroment, like some game genre, there may be a similarity with religion, if you take into account bitcoin fanatic and what not

but i would class it as a current of thought for the future


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Daniel91 on July 22, 2015, 08:56:32 AM
Interesting question, really.
If you believe in something, have faith, whether it is automatically religion?
I don't think so.
You can also believe in your company, country, even spouse or kids but this is not connected with religion.
People can even believe in God without need for religion.
Religion is, by definition, institutional and includes church services, the priests, shared spiritual values etc.
We can believe in bitcoin but bitcoin will never replace the institutional faith and service to God.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 22, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
You can also believe in your company, country, even spouse or kids but this is not connected with religion.
People can even believe in God without need for religion.
Religion is, by definition, institutional and includes church services, the priests, shared spiritual values etc.
We can believe in bitcoin but bitcoin will never replace the institutional faith and service to God.

Taoism nor Buddhism require those. Usually people do not spend hours posting on the internet about how awesome their company is, or claim it will save the world. Bitcoin actually even has its own eschatology, as well as principles of gnosis.

I notice a lot of posts here who content that it's not a religion, because Christianity is. Well, then you better go and discard all the other Abrahamic religions, as well as Shinto, Tao, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: vendetahome on July 22, 2015, 09:12:15 AM
i dont think that bitcoin is a religion as in religion you have to believe something even though no one can prove that its real or something like that, and bitcoin is real, no one can say that its fake so i guess its not religion


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: HCLivess on July 22, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
Humans are based around suggestivity FAR MORE than most people realize - western knowledge of it comes from Freud and reflects in modern, disgusting advertising.

Of course Bitcoin is a religion. Everything is a religion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: bitcart on July 22, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
All economies are religion. South Park taught us that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: gumcruise on July 22, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
All economies are religion. South Park taught us that.

South Park is actually brilliant cultural analysis. I don't know any other show that is pithy like that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: nerFohanzo on July 22, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
i dont think that bitcoin is a religion as in religion you have to believe something even though no one can prove that its real or something like that, and bitcoin is real, no one can say that its fake so i guess its not religion

Religion is something we follow since we are born that's what our parents teach us. And following bitcoin as a religion is something far away. We don't believe that bitcoin is a religion it is just a currency which can be replaced by any other currency in the future. So it is useless to say that bitcoin is a religion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Mickeyb on July 22, 2015, 07:28:33 PM
No it is definitely not a religion. Members of this forum might have a religious like craze about their Internet toy but bitcoin is far from a religion.

For me, Bitcoin is still something new, something that still needs to grow and expand. Heck, most of the people didn't even hear about Bitcoin in this world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: faridkifly on July 22, 2015, 07:33:06 PM
in my opinion everyone crazy about bitcoin just because they want an instant money without going out to everywhere, just sit infront your gadget and "click"


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 22, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
i dont think that bitcoin is a religion as in religion you have to believe something even though no one can prove that its real or something like that, and bitcoin is real, no one can say that its fake so i guess its not religion

Religion is something we follow since we are born that's what our parents teach us. And following bitcoin as a religion is something far away. We don't believe that bitcoin is a religion it is just a currency which can be replaced by any other currency in the future. So it is useless to say that bitcoin is a religion.

Religion can be changed, acquired or removed from ones life at any point in time. You could be 1 or you could be 101, it doesn't matter. Beliefs change, and they do not have to be mutually exclusive. Many people believe in Christianity, but also believe in spirits and supernatural phenomena even though these are considered blasphemous by Christian doctrine.

It's not only a currency. It is the first time we have a verifiably immutable ledger, essentially a sequential timestamped database wherein history cannot be altered. In human history there has never been a database that could not have been altered by some means. Bitcoin is continuously evolving, and adapting.

No it is definitely not a religion. Members of this forum might have a religious like craze about their Internet toy but bitcoin is far from a religion.

For me, Bitcoin is still something new, something that still needs to grow and expand. Heck, most of the people didn't even hear about Bitcoin in this world.

Why not?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Mickeyb on July 22, 2015, 08:26:49 PM
i dont think that bitcoin is a religion as in religion you have to believe something even though no one can prove that its real or something like that, and bitcoin is real, no one can say that its fake so i guess its not religion

Religion is something we follow since we are born that's what our parents teach us. And following bitcoin as a religion is something far away. We don't believe that bitcoin is a religion it is just a currency which can be replaced by any other currency in the future. So it is useless to say that bitcoin is a religion.

Religion can be changed, acquired or removed from ones life at any point in time. You could be 1 or you could be 101, it doesn't matter. Beliefs change, and they do not have to be mutually exclusive. Many people believe in Christianity, but also believe in spirits and supernatural phenomena even though these are considered blasphemous by Christian doctrine.

It's not only a currency. It is the first time we have a verifiably immutable ledger, essentially a sequential timestamped database wherein history cannot be altered. In human history there has never been a database that could not have been altered by some means. Bitcoin is continuously evolving, and adapting.

No it is definitely not a religion. Members of this forum might have a religious like craze about their Internet toy but bitcoin is far from a religion.

For me, Bitcoin is still something new, something that still needs to grow and expand. Heck, most of the people didn't even hear about Bitcoin in this world.

Why not?

Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 22, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?

Why is it not a religion?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Mickeyb on July 22, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?

Why is it not a religion?

Because religion is untouchable, it is just there and you choose to believe or not into it. Bitcoin is a technology, it is very real and I don't see it as spiritual at all.

Now if you think that biggest bitcoin believers are bitcoin religious, I don't know. They are maybe bitcoin fanatics, not bitcoin religious in my opinion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: BillyBobZorton on July 22, 2015, 09:24:24 PM
Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?

Why is it not a religion?

Because religion is untouchable, it is just there and you choose to believe or not into it. Bitcoin is a technology, it is very real and I don't see it as spiritual at all.

Now if you think that biggest bitcoin believers are bitcoin religious, I don't know. They are maybe bitcoin fanatics, not bitcoin religious in my opinion.

The magic of the blockchain is almost spiritual. It's one of those technological paradigm shifts that feel sort of a religious experience for a nerd if you read the whitepaper and understand it. It's that awesome. Of course, it's just a mega clever mind (or a group) of people that came up to that conclusion and solved fundamental problems, but it's still insanely amazing, thats why a lot of people get hooked with this technology and can't stop researching.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 22, 2015, 10:07:15 PM
most of religions has some mans behind it ,they started as a small group and then raised into a big and knowed religion, because we can touch bitcoin that make it a non religion ? really your point? some people believe in a old book called biblia  written by someone .... they killed they hidden they made several things to protect or hide info about it.

Bitcoin is like culture ,there is a big information and dedication on it and some will protect it and wont let it die its revolutionary ,there are some followers of it already ,we community make bitcoin became a kind of religion ,even know that some use because low fees and huge potencial but still being a kind of religion that we ,nerds ,noobs,investors believe and follow all news about it call it vicious or religion


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dodgecharger on July 23, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Our Satoshi, who art in blockchain,
Encrypted be thy name
Thy transactions come
Thy will be done on ASICS
As it is on Github.
Give us this day our daily mining reward,
And forgive our zero-conf double-spends
As we forgive them that double-spend against us.
And lead us not into alt-chains
But deliver us from Ripple
For thine is the mining rig,
The hashing power, and the block reward,
For ever and ever
Amen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: zeraTunerse on July 23, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
in my opinion everyone crazy about bitcoin just because they want an instant money without going out to everywhere, just sit infront your gadget and "click"

Instant money is not possible my dear friend by just clicking, you need to invest your time, energy and skills if you want to earn bitcoins. It is not as simple as you are thinking, and instant money its not possible unless you gamble and win  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 23, 2015, 01:41:08 AM
in my opinion everyone crazy about bitcoin just because they want an instant money without going out to everywhere, just sit infront your gadget and "click"

Instant money is not possible my dear friend by just clicking, you need to invest your time, energy and skills if you want to earn bitcoins. It is not as simple as you are thinking, and instant money its not possible unless you gamble and win  ;D

there is always a delay converting btc into fiat and withdraw it from the exchange,clicks wont make money soo easy can make cents,only if the click is dice or gamblick soo can make like instant money getting in balance lol,but well not crazy people ,a vision showed us the way forward at the present time ,you can choose ,be in or be out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: hunnaryb on July 23, 2015, 02:08:05 AM
in my opinion everyone crazy about bitcoin just because they want an instant money without going out to everywhere, just sit infront your gadget and "click"

Instant money is not possible my dear friend by just clicking, you need to invest your time, energy and skills if you want to earn bitcoins. It is not as simple as you are thinking, and instant money its not possible unless you gamble and win  ;D

there is always a delay converting btc into fiat and withdraw it from the exchange,clicks wont make money soo easy can make cents,only if the click is dice or gamblick soo can make like instant money getting in balance lol,but well not crazy people ,a vision showed us the way forward at the present time ,you can choose ,be in or be out.

For me it hardly take 10 mins to convert my bitcoins into my local currency. I don't know why your transactions are taking time, Use localbitcoins/escrow it hardly take 10 mins to deposit money into my bank account and I am really satisfied with it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Mickeyb on July 23, 2015, 04:51:47 AM
Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?

Why is it not a religion?

Because religion is untouchable, it is just there and you choose to believe or not into it. Bitcoin is a technology, it is very real and I don't see it as spiritual at all.

Now if you think that biggest bitcoin believers are bitcoin religious, I don't know. They are maybe bitcoin fanatics, not bitcoin religious in my opinion.

The magic of the blockchain is almost spiritual. It's one of those technological paradigm shifts that feel sort of a religious experience for a nerd if you read the whitepaper and understand it. It's that awesome. Of course, it's just a mega clever mind (or a group) of people that came up to that conclusion and solved fundamental problems, but it's still insanely amazing, thats why a lot of people get hooked with this technology and can't stop researching.

Well I guess there are personal preferences on what we will call religious or not. I agree that the technology is truly amazing, that's why we are all here. But I just don't see it religious. :)

I guess I just have more mathematical mind than spiritual to be seeing it like this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: bitedge on July 23, 2015, 07:55:50 AM
Being a religion is one way to get tax exemption :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 23, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Our Satoshi, who art in blockchain,
Encrypted be thy name
Thy transactions come
Thy will be done on ASICS
As it is on Github.
Give us this day our daily mining reward,
And forgive our zero-conf double-spends
As we forgive them that double-spend against us.
And lead us not into alt-chains
But deliver us from Ripple
For thine is the mining rig,
The hashing power, and the block reward,
For ever and ever
Amen.

That's all the proof I need  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: silverolivia on July 23, 2015, 11:16:10 AM
Seems that it is a some kind of religion :D for some people.
I mean even everyone on this forum is under that religion :) we are all interested in bitcoin and we believe in this cryptocurrency. So we are all in that!


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: neoneros on July 23, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
bitcoin is based on a theory, a belief and the theory is working out and we, the believers and backers of that theory are comparable to a religion. I think it is more like a revolution, one that will bring us yet another step closer to our personal development, our own independance and in the end a better world, we might never reach utopia, but we are getting closer with every step and revolution. After the economy has been freed by the blockchain we can expect the next revolution to happen, away with government and corporate bribes, or who knows what need to be revolutionised.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: interbtc on July 23, 2015, 01:07:26 PM
Now go out there and spread the word!
May the spirit of Satoshi be with you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: misterycoins on July 23, 2015, 01:36:05 PM
In my opinion Cryptocurrencies and religions have nothing in common, yet the vocabulary used is very similar to religion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: talkbitcoin on July 23, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
who even came up with the idea of comparing bitcoin to religion?!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Amph on July 23, 2015, 01:54:59 PM
Why not what?
Why is not a religion or why most of the world still hasn't heard about Bitcoin?

Why is it not a religion?

because religion trust something that does not exist, bitcoin exist and it's real(you can prove its existence virtually speaking), and while you can't touch it you can at least see it

please don't bring the bullshit about the fact that virtual thing does not exist....i hate when someone say "real life", playing video game is still a part of your "real life", this as a counter argument...



Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: kenbytes on July 23, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
I follow the religion of bitcoin and Satoshi is our one and only Prophet. We need to find new converts everyday to help grow our religion :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: QuestionAuthority on July 23, 2015, 06:34:54 PM
I follow the religion of bitcoin and Satoshi is our one and only Prophet. We need to find new converts everyday to help grow our religion :)

Welcome to Jonestown

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Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dodgecharger on July 23, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
Satoshi's second coming will herald the apocalyptic collapse of fiat. All devout bitcoiners shall be assured entry into the blockchain... so it is written.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 23, 2015, 10:56:30 PM
well its a religion that is getting new believers every day ,if we didnt believe it would be dead already.The same way as others religious that survived from the past .


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 24, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
Actually it was Flavor Aid and not Kool Aid.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: turvarya on July 24, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
You can also believe in your company, country, even spouse or kids but this is not connected with religion.
People can even believe in God without need for religion.
Religion is, by definition, institutional and includes church services, the priests, shared spiritual values etc.
We can believe in bitcoin but bitcoin will never replace the institutional faith and service to God.

Taoism nor Buddhism require those. Usually people do not spend hours posting on the internet about how awesome their company is, or claim it will save the world. Bitcoin actually even has its own eschatology, as well as principles of gnosis.

I notice a lot of posts here who content that it's not a religion, because Christianity is. Well, then you better go and discard all the other Abrahamic religions, as well as Shinto, Tao, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
Seriously?
I saw this claims many times, when it comes to Apple. There are people worshiping Steve Jobs as a perfect being, the same way, some people worship Satoshi as a perfect being.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: g1974ak on July 24, 2015, 12:24:03 PM
Everything can be made religion if believed with anormality. Bitcoin can be religion for them who loves the money. The people who live to make money, to spend money, to accumulate money are the more particularly vulnerable to create a religion believe for the bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: gumcruise on July 24, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
Seriously?
I saw this claims many times, when it comes to Apple. There are people worshiping Steve Jobs as a perfect being, the same way, some people worship Satoshi as a perfect being.

That's because Steve Jobs purposely engineered it to be this way. And I said usually. A company with a trillion dollar market cap is not "usual".


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: turvarya on July 24, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
Seriously?
I saw this claims many times, when it comes to Apple. There are people worshiping Steve Jobs as a perfect being, the same way, some people worship Satoshi as a perfect being.

That's because Steve Jobs purposely engineered it to be this way. And I said usually. A company with a trillion dollar market cap is not "usual".
So, we agree, if Bitcoin is a religion, than Apple is also a religion?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: misterycoins on July 25, 2015, 11:10:20 PM
The prophecy will soon reveal itself, and we shall all take our rightful places on the moon Verily To the moon!!! , it is written


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 26, 2015, 09:51:36 AM
Seriously?
I saw this claims many times, when it comes to Apple. There are people worshiping Steve Jobs as a perfect being, the same way, some people worship Satoshi as a perfect being.

That's because Steve Jobs purposely engineered it to be this way. And I said usually. A company with a trillion dollar market cap is not "usual".
So, we agree, if Bitcoin is a religion, than Apple is also a religion?

It's a little bit less of a religion, but yes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: gambit1 on July 26, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
It wrong because bitcoin means something different to different people. The idea that meaning is universal is fallacious.

I can't be bothered to go into all the different things that bitcoin "means" to people but to some people its just something to make money off. To be honest I'm pretty much one of them. I do "believe" in bitcoin to some extent but I just mostly see it as a vehicle to enrich myself.

When I trade bitcoin I could be trading stocks, or pork bellies. I certainly don't "believe" in stocks, still less in pork bellies in any "spiritual" sense.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 27, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
It wrong because bitcoin means something different to different people. The idea that meaning is universal is fallacious.

I can't be bothered to go into all the different things that bitcoin "means" to people but to some people its just something to make money off. To be honest I'm pretty much one of them. I do "believe" in bitcoin to some extent but I just mostly see it as a vehicle to enrich myself.

When I trade bitcoin I could be trading stocks, or pork bellies. I certainly don't "believe" in stocks, still less in pork bellies in any "spiritual" sense.

And when I read the bible I feel like I'm reading a fiction novel written by schizophrenics, but that doesn't disqualify it as a religion. You should be glad that you are not affected by this, although seeing it purely as a vehicle to enrich yourself is a bit shortsighted.

The point of the article is to arrive where you already are, in a secular analytical perspective devoid of such apparitions of the mind. Absolutely no meaning is universal, and the article most certainly didn't state that it is.

You're already where the article is supposed to lead people who have been blinded by spirituality. By denying it I guess you encourage more people to stay in their belief system (Bitcoin), which then again benefits you financially.  

Not that there's anything bad about that, but there's a staggering amount of people who perceive Bitcoin as a religion. I wrote this article because I was tired of seeing them, debating them, and having to deal with irrational behavior. I felt like someone finally had to address it. Cryptocurrency cults and personality worship cost a lot of people everything they owned. Paycoin was a vacuum of hundreds of thousands of dollars senselessly burned. Some people convinced their grandparents and parents to buy, with disastrous results (like not being able to pay medical bills).

The most bizarre reactions here are the Christians who didn't read the article, and feel the need to defend their own religion and god. Do you feel that threatened by Bitcoin? I don't see such posts in threads about Islam or Judaism or Hinduism... but somehow this draws them out. Why? Also, why does the catholic church feel the need to brand bitcoin as the "mark of the devil"?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dollarneed on July 27, 2015, 08:00:02 PM
i always think that bitcoin is not religion its like passion
so what about your hobby for example you reall like using iphone so do you think apple is religon?
oh cmon guys its totally different


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 27, 2015, 08:24:43 PM
Everything is based on beliefs on this world. If you don't believe in stuff they have hardly any value.

Guys can just throw away their gold bars into a volcano, if they dont believe in gold's value.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 27, 2015, 08:27:12 PM
i always think that bitcoin is not religion its like passion
so what about your hobby for example you reall like using iphone so do you think apple is religon?
oh cmon guys its totally different

Actually, there are brain scans that prove this. And it also proves that you didn't read the article in the OP. :)

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-causes-religious-reaction-in-brains-of-fans-say-neuroscientists/


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 27, 2015, 08:29:49 PM
Satoshi's second coming will herald the apocalyptic collapse of fiat. All devout bitcoiners shall be assured entry into the blockchain... so it is written.

OMG your post made my day :D

Will the prophet Satoshi come back after 2000 years? And will it bring doom to the heathens and heretics engulfed in the tentacles of the fiat devil? :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Beliathon on July 27, 2015, 09:07:46 PM
Bitcoin is far more worthy of a cult following than any of the bronze age Myth-Books most theists adore.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: GaliX on July 28, 2015, 12:19:52 AM
Bitcoin is far more worthy of a cult following than any of the bronze age Myth-Books most theists adore.

in the End bitcoin is like even like an esoteric thing...

If you think the Credit Card companies are evil you will hail your Bitcoins...


Just like if you think you need special Water every day because the regular one comes with evil harmful things in it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: knowhow on July 28, 2015, 10:34:57 PM
religion is something that human beings need to have and believe in order to justify their actions , Christians , budisdas , judeus.Nao have a group that recruiting and preparing terrorist attacks constant people, only do so because they believe in something , not to be famous only because they see this religion the solution of their problems or the company envolvente.Nao comparing religions because it can not do so , the Templar knights killed to protect today still kill , but to demonstrate poder.Se bitcoins were conceived in the time of the alleged gods now the world currency would be bitcoins ? Previously bought a product with other products , until create the currency .Our bitcoin can take today again the role of the exchange of products.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 28, 2015, 10:36:39 PM
what?


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: dodgecharger on July 29, 2015, 03:14:05 AM
1- In the beginning, Satoshi created Bitcoin and the BTC protocol.
2- Now the coin was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of Satoshi was hovering over the waters.
2- And Satoshi coded a blockchain, and there was a blockchain.
3- Satoshi saw that the blockchain was good, and he separated cryptocurrency from fiat currency.
4- Satoshi called the light "Bitcoin", and called the darkness "Fiat". And there was evening, and there was morning - the Genesis Block
And so sayeth the prophecy. Amen.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Falconer on July 29, 2015, 06:45:56 AM
Just let people do what they want, like make a religion, become a prophet, legalize same marriage, do abortion, do drugs, or etc. The most important point for world people nowadays isnt religion nor god, but human rights. With human rights, anything can be made.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: n2004al on July 29, 2015, 07:00:49 AM
Quote
I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

That depends from the kind of people. There are people that made religious about any kind of things. If some of they will be affected to much about bitcoin they for sure will build a church in their home with the ASIC in the center of it and where will pray five time in a day that difficulty will not be increased and that they will have more and more bitcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: g1974ak on July 29, 2015, 07:06:03 AM
Quote
I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

It will be religion for the lovers of the money. Those who love the money will love this kind of new money and will do everything to have some. That kind of people love to diversificate their investments and bitcoin will be so,e new interesting investment. Is told that the value of bitcoin will be higher and higher in time and even this is not known for sure they will try to diversificate and have some (consistent some) bitcoin to try the destiny.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: deliciousowl on July 29, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
Quote
I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?

That depends from the kind of people. There are people that made religious about any kind of things. If some of they will be affected to much about bitcoin they for sure will build a church in their home with the ASIC in the center of it and where will pray five time in a day that difficulty will not be increased and that they will have more and more bitcoins.

That depends. The mining process is based on randomness, and countless theological scholars argue that randomness is insight into the mind of god. And empirically, it reflects the structure of the universe.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Blawpaw on July 29, 2015, 11:31:38 AM
For me it is like a religion! If one really believes in digital currencies, it's mission will be to help the future establishment of the currency. Anyone who believes in Bitcoin is always trying to make people understand its true potential.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: Falconer on July 29, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
For me it is like a religion! If one really believes in digital currencies, it's mission will be to help the future establishment of the currency. Anyone who believes in Bitcoin is always trying to make people understand its true potential.
So is your religion bitcoin then? If yes, what would you do to worship to your 'god'. Believe in something doesnt mean that you should worship it. I think people here dont understand what the religion is.


Title: Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?!
Post by: zeraTunerse on July 29, 2015, 09:59:59 PM
For me it is like a religion! If one really believes in digital currencies, it's mission will be to help the future establishment of the currency. Anyone who believes in Bitcoin is always trying to make people understand its true potential.
So is your religion bitcoin then? If yes, what would you do to worship to your 'god'. Believe in something doesnt mean that you should worship it. I think people here dont understand what the religion is.

Exactly, it is just an currency, let it be only a currency, don't make it a religion, as today you are thinking bitcoin as a religion and tomorrow if we have some better currency then we would simply forget bitcoins, so lets be practical and treat bitcoin only as a currency and not a religion.