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Hackers threaten to leak Ashley Madison's 37 million clients (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/hackers-threaten-leak-ashley-madisons-37-million-clients-083855459--sector.html)


Marriage is a joke these days to the general public. Why do they even bother getting married?

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"(Reuters) - Hackers claim to have personal details of more than 37 million cheating spouses on dating website Ashley Madison and have threatened to release nude photos and sexual fantasies of the site's clients unless it is shut down, blog KrebsOnSecurity reported.

Ashley Madison's Canadian parent, Avid Life Media, confirmed the breach on its systems and said it had since secured its site and was working with law enforcement agencies to try to trace those behind the attack.

The hackers, who call themselves The Impact Team, leaked snippets of the compromised data online and warned they would release customers' real names, profiles, nude photos, credit card details and "secret sexual fantasies" unless their demands were met, Krebs said.

Avid Life did not disclose what information was stolen."

"Ashley Madison, which uses the slogan "Life is short. Have an affair", has been planning to raise up to $200 million through an initial public offering on the London Stock Exchange."

 (more on news page)

Who wants to take bets that these hackers have ties to either conservative or feminist groups?

Release the Kraken and see what mayhem comes of it. Would think revenge sex would be on the increase after spouses find out their other in a freak.

It's most likely not all men on these sites, in fact feminist women are probably all about having your cake and eating it too, just like guys right? I'd rather guess that most of the cheating women are feminist.

That's a pretty valid assumption. Feminists don't believe in the whole "homemaker" mindset.

What I want to know though is if things like credit card numbers will be leaked. Of the site used Bitcoin, they wouldn't have to worry :)

I added the picture onto the OP. It does state that credit card numbers are part of what will be leaked.

Also, "They said users who had paid a fee to Avid Life to have their personal data permanently deleted had been lied to and the company had retained records, including credit card information"

So far, in the whole history of hacking, how many of them were perpetrated by feminist conservatives versus self labeled smart leftist anarchists?
It could be the case here... But that probability is very, very low.

No idea that ashley bla bla was still on line...

I wonder if people looking forward for a global orgy that would kill God had a credit card history on that website...

 ;)

Why get married and then cheat? I don't understand that concept.  ???
Just stay single and sleep around or whatever? So if they do leak the info, well that's just what you get.

Does anyone know if you have to prove you are married before joining those websites? That would be... Sadly funny if that was the case.

I don't really understand why people would go to such a site. Why not just go have an affair on any other dating site? Ones that specifically go to site for an affair ironically don't seem like the type of people you'd even want to date. Baffling.

Its not really about the dating,more about the std's and quick releases. So I heard ::)

Maybe they just find it easier when they know the other person is also cheating. Typically it's a bored man looking for a younger, single woman, that starts having demands later on. Here they could find a woman bored in her marriage that will just go back to it in the morning.

I agree with this analysis, it is probably some feminist or marxist group. Also I don't know if anyone has seen the commercials for this service, but it is very clearly marketed at women, I love how only men are the scumbags, when I would bet the user base is comprised of mostly females. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwJSD46JSoM

This is very positive news for bitcoin.

Use a credit card on AM: hackers now have your real details (most people are not savvy enough to create fake credit card credentials) and can release them, causing marital havoc across the world.

If AM supported bitcoin: hackers would have a bunch of addresses, maybe could have stolen some bitcoins. But all users could have remained anonymous without enormous amounts of work to uncover each identity.

Life Is Short.  Have a Bitcoin.

I would love to see the database dumped, if only to see the ratio of men, women, and fake women on the site.  To me AM is clearly marketed women simply because men will automatically sign up for it.  It's women that need to be convinced that AM is a good idea.

A few weeks ago a Japanese dating site was busted and management arrested for fraud because the site had several million members.  All but one were male.  Every single user was talking to fake profiles and ponying up cash.  I wouldn't be surprised if AM was similar.

I am sure most of the female accounts are shills but who knows?   Technology is great and all, but is it really that difficult to meet people in person?

Why would a marxist group be involved? That seems random.

This is the Y2K of this decade!!!  OMG   :D

I think the answer is age old, the excitement of the forbidden.  From the picture on their home page, and from all their marketing they promote, sell - the excitement that's missing from one's life.  

Movies, fiction....try romance novels, then tell me women, happily boxed into marriage/church/family/soccer, don't vicariously want "more."  Look at the preponderance of total sociopaths in our movies that think nothing of fucking around.  Who do what the average person can't do(and is too smart to) which is basically anything they want.  AM gives them this, or the appearance of it, the fiction of it.  Made more exciting by the possibility of carrying through on it.

Seems like that's a pretty darn good "marketing approach," compared to bland and boring "dating sites."  "Dates" vs "Affairs..."

Jeeze, that would be really sad.

But I could definitely see them asking for a copy of a marriage certificate, lmao.
I wonder how the users and the website feel about outsiders infiltrating and pretending to be married, wonder if they ever get caught? I don't even know... lol

It only seems random if you are ignorant of the Marxist genesis of the feminist movement and their shared ideology of the destruction of the family unit.

Meh, this bores me to be honest. Everybody fucks, what of it?

This guy fucks.

Everyone who thought they were paying for complete privacy and "total delete" are now potentially going to be exposed via their credit card details.
time for a Ashley Bitcoinson... :D

Well isn't this ironic, hehehe. Good idea though! Ashley Bitcoinson :P

This isn't about having sex. This is about going through the act of marriage, pledging oneself to be faithful and then cheating instead of being honest, communicating, going through with a promise to be faithful, or asking for a divorce first. If this was about a company that was for flings without the marriage, you'd have a point, but you missed the point of this thread...

Again, I'm not surprised in the long run at all this unfaithfulness, but I cannot understand why anyone would want to marry someone and then cheat on them, especially on this large of a scale. Why go through with the act of marriage?

I would have thought you'd be on my side on this, Beliathon. These people should not have gotten married to begin with if they couldn't be faithful.

Correct.

The mistake these people made wasn't cheating, it was getting married. They have been lied to about human nature, by people who in turn have been lied to about human nature, who were in turn lied to by non-scientists who didn't know jackshit about human nature.

All the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Homo Sapiens are promiscuous by nature, meant to fuck with many different partners, not at all monogamous (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vXX33C6Mg). This is why the institution of marriage is imploding.

link for the full hackers' release?
::)

still does not have
These guys are trying to extort money I assume
They'll release it when and if they want to.

Wai wut?  "Asking for a divorce first"..  as in before what?  Before telling your wife you get 50% of earnings from all tricks earned at home?  Before visiting some dumb-ass site like Ashley Madison or Facebook?   Before having a conversation about who you will invite home and get naked with and during what hours?  

Good question about why going through with "marriage".  Of course to answer it properly one would have to define it, and that seems hard as everyone has their own ideas.  Generally speaking however, I have seen that most people have roughly the following priorities for why to do it:

1) To justify expense of a large party and travel / visiting by friends and family
2) To placate the nazis, as in to enable procurement of nazi papers such as passport / residential permit / etc
3) To "show face" in the Chinese sense, that is to put on airs of traditional normalcy
4) as financial / political arrangement  

That's all I can come up with.  Anything else?  



 

hackers claim that the reason they did it was to prove that Ashley Madison was lying to their customers about the permanent delete feature.

I agree that these cheaters should never have been married. It just makes marriage a joke to those who really believe in it.


That would be nice of them. However, I don't believe it was their only motive or they would have not be blackmailing them for money.

How do you explain the scientific evidence that people are happiest when they have exactly 1 (no more, no less) sexual partners per year?  I'm not saying it can't be explained away, but it's there.

https://books.google.com/books?id=bI-Jau14aLAC&pg=PA210&lpg=PA210&dq=people+are+happier+with+1+sex+partner&source=bl&ots=EbfjH4_yzn&sig=bU2ISvTA43wMhQaBUgj7eD-Phkw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAzgKahUKEwit7LOg5e_GAhVLOz4KHTMmDQQ#v=onepage&q=people%20are%20happier%20with%201%20sex%20partner&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=bI-Jau14aLAC&pg=PA210&lpg=PA210&dq=people+are+happier+with+1+sex+partner&source=bl&ots=EbfjH4_yzn&sig=bU2ISvTA43wMhQaBUgj7eD-Phkw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAzgKahUKEwit7LOg5e_GAhVLOz4KHTMmDQQ#v=onepage&q=people%20are%20happier%20with%201%20sex%20partner&f=false)

So what...one marriage per year?

Do you think people with 50 marriages in a lifetime are happier than those with 1?

I think people with zero marriages in a lifetime are happier than those with 1. The stories of miserable marriage and divorce are everywhere in modern culture, pay attention.


People with one sexual partner are accepted by society. If you have multiple sexual partners, you have to hide it from the world, especially in political or other prestigious careers.

The same was true about homosexuals 25 years ago.

Also pay attention to the immense social pressure to be sexy, to the glorification of sexual promiscuity in the media linked to social status, to the breakdown in effective person-to-person communication as a result of digital technology, to the exponential increase in ADHD diagnoses in adults, etc.  Didn't you say you were a psychology major or something?  



Contextual question:  Do you believe that a person who has sex with 10 people a year will be happier than 1?  I think it depends on the individual and upon individual circumstances.  This isn't a huge difference by today's standards.

Comparison question:  Do you think that a person who has sex with 365 people in a year will be happier than 1?  The point of this question is to ask you whether a person's satisfaction will continually increase on to infinity if they keep having more and more sexual partners.  This is a rhetorical question, because we both know the answer is no.  So, then, why is the answer no?

Idea for reflection:  What do you think would happen to a person who has with many partners frequently, versus a person who does not, if that person is placed into a situation where they are no longer able to (e.g. graduating college, getting too old, too ugly, or too busy, put in jail, becoming sick or medically incapable, etc.)?

People respond to sex much like they do drugs.  Some people do okay living life completely sober, and others do just fine with moderate, controlled drug use.  Virtually nobody functions optimally when they use drugs perpetually, especially many different kinds, and this is especially true when you initially take those drugs away from them.  People respond similarly in many ways to sexual engagement.

Sex is not a drug, it's completely natural and both mentally and physically healthy for you (excluding STIs obviously). In fact, sex preserves youthful vitality, where as most drugs age you.

This comparison is not at all apt. http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sex-and-health

That's making a straw man of the point.  I didn't say sex is a drug, nor did I say it's necessarily unhealthy.

Why not some radical LGBT group, which is opposed to heterosexual relationships? That said, the news reports indicates that the hack was done by someone who was not happy about the fee being charged by Ashley Madison, to delete the profiles (they charge $20 for the same). So in all probability, the hack was done by a disgruntled ex-user.

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Ashley-640x359.png

I'm not sure what society you refer to.  Many who haven't had the chance to get out simply pretend they have more adventurous sex lives.  I've not known people who go the other way and pretend they don't.  Married couples better have some stories about threesomes or swapping or whatever, especially in political or other prestigious careers.    

Nowadays close to half of all the marriages end up in divorce. This proportion will rise further in the coming decades, as the radical feminism becomes stronger. More and more anti-male laws and regulations are being created, and marriage has become another business opportunity for gold diggers to squeeze out money from the wealthy middle-aged males.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading

Oh, they must not exist than. After all, your single anecdote suggests they don't exist!

Congrats, you're a male-chauvinist misogynistic ignoramus piece of shit, in the proud tradition of religious men everywhere.

Wow. A politically-correct non-religious radical feminist supporter. Must be an American. I half expected to end with "Mister Man."

Mister Man!

This is a joke, right?

Your logical fallacy is straw man, and it's prompted by your intellectually dishonest habit of perpetual selective reading, a form of confirmation bias.

Of course you're going to think that you've proven everyone false if you make up their arguments for them ::)

Aww, he doesn't even realized he has already forfeited the privilege of communicating with me, he still thinks I can read his shitposts! That's adorable.

Divorce lawyers everywhere are rejoicing ;D

37M is a huge number, I'm shocked it's that high. I wonder how many of those users are people who created an account once and never actually used it as opposed to people who use it regularly.

Probably 36 million of them will be male (and 90% of them will be unmarried guys, who are not being able to get laid), and the remaining 1 million will be female. Females don't need the help of internet to get in to an extra-marital affair, while most of the men need the same. Men and women, who are attractive and not impotent, doesn't need Ashley Madison.  ;D

Oh, that response will surely give you the credibility and acknowledgement you're looking for from your peers.  Who are you talking to?

I am 100% against cheating on someone, why not end one relationship before moving onto another ?
There is no justification for cheating on another person. It is destructive and hurtful

Perfect site to hit,these dating sites keep a lot of data on the clients. Most likely why the Plenty of Fish guy sold his site.

Heard that a few divorce cases have been already filed after the leaked data was dumped all over the darknet. But there is a chance that a few people will be wrongly identified as Ashley Madison users. Ashley Madison users had no requirement of verifying their emails. So there is a chance that some of the users might have given other's email IDs.

Busted!!
Oh well, shit happens...

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/extortionists-target-ashley-madison-users/

"The leaked AshleyMadison data could also be useful for extorting U.S. military personnel and potentially stealing U.S. government secrets, experts fear. Some 15,000 email addresses ending in dot-mil (the top-level domain for the U.S. military) were included in the leaked AshleyMadison database, and this has top military officials just a tad concerned."

Sheesh.

lol, what the hell? it'll be funny if they really did discuss US military matters using AshleyMadison.

 ::)
OMG, what a circlejerk...

Just because the advertising focuses on cheating, therefore all the members must be cheaters, right? They say assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, except in this case I have my doubts about the amount of sex people on the bitcointalk-forum-raised-to-the-power-of-the-politics-subforum are having.

Warning! The following information may cause some readers' heads to explode...

There exists this weird thing called "swinging", where bored couples have fun by switching partners and stuff. And it's only cheating if there's some element of secrecy or lack of consent.

/warning.

Also, feminists? Seriously? That would be like lesbians hacking "Grindr" for having too many males.

Good topic! I like.

Most of the people on the site are probably not swingers. Regardless, obviously the swingers have nothing to worry about the place getting hacked and nothing to explain to their partners, (except if they tried to get their credit card info erased and that didn't happen of course).

Pathetic. The average IQ of the American military leaders seems to be quite low, as evident from this scandal. People, who don't know about the risk in using their official email on a site such as Ashley Madison are going to make important decisions such as bombing terrorist hideouts and rescuing civilians and hostages from armed groups?

This leak just exposed tens of thousands of men. A lot of shitty marriages just received their death sentence

The part that gets me is 37 MILLION PEOPLE. I mean, really? I know there are lots of people who have affairs, way more than 10%, but I had no idea so many people actually subscribed to that service.

Ashley Madison faces $578M Canadian class-action lawsuit (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ashley-madison-faces-578m-canadian-193220673.html)

Honestly I don't give two shits one way or another if you're ballsy enough to cheat on your spouse you should have the balls to face the consequences as a man or woman

I get the feeling that up to 10 million of those users are bots or fake users. I highly doubt that there are 37 million real users.

can't they just deny everything as usual and say that their data has been planted in the site to harm their reputation and blackmail them?

This, marriage as an institution has slowly declined and it's no longer as strong as it was. And now you see people that take their bows so lightly that is not funny.

A significant number of people marry because:

1) Tradition
2) "It's the right thing to do"
3) Money
4) "Got my gf pregnant"

People marry for many more reasons than that, but that doesn't mean marriage is no longer marriage.

Ashley Madison: 'Suicides' over website hack


Two individuals associated with the leak of Ashley Madison customer details are reported to have taken their lives, according to police in Canada.

The police in Toronto gave no further information about the deaths.



Ashley Madison's Canadian parent company Avid Life Media is offering a C$500,000 (£240,000) reward for information on the hackers, they added.

Details of more than 33m accounts were stolen from the website, which offers users the chance to have an affair.

Addressing the hackers, known as The Impact Team, acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans of the Toronto police said: "I want to make it very clear to you your actions are illegal and we will not be tolerating them. This is your wake-up call."
Police are seeking information from members of the wider hacker community that might aid their investigation.

The breach was "very sophisticated", said Detective Menard from the technological crime unit of Toronto Police.

Cash reward

Mr Evans confirmed that credit card data was included in the original data dump released by The Impact Team.

He said that investigators believed this was limited to the last four digits of the main card number.

Consequently, police are advising victims of the hack to review their accounts.

He also explained that the hack had already led to a series of "spin-offs of crimes and further victimisation".

"Criminals have already engaged in online scams by claiming to provide access to the leaked websites," he said.

"The public needs to be aware that by clicking on these links you are exposing your computers to malware, spyware, adware and viruses."

'Thunderstruck'

The unfolding of the hack was also detailed at the conference - from the moment on 12 July when several Avid Life Media employees logged in to their computers and were confronted by a message from the hackers.

This message was accompanied by music - AC/DC's "Thunderstruck", said Mr Evans.

"This hack is one of the largest data breaches in the world and is very unique on its own in that it exposed tens of millions of people's personal information," he added.

Police have set up a Twitter account, @AMCaseTPS, and hashtag, #AMCaseTPS, in a bid to gather information about the hack from members of the public.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34044506

The number likely included a bunch of bots in the early stages of the site
Unconfrimed accounts, and hidden profiles so whether it really is roughly the size of all of Canada would be a bit extreme.
(Actually even a bit bigger)

Still from Police officers to law officials it really did cover all walks of life

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/newsalertunconfirmed-reports-of-two-ashley-madison-related-suicidespolice-322683191.html

U.S. government employees with sensitive jobs in national security and law enforcement were also among those found to be using government networks to access the website, including at least two assistant U.S. attorneys, an information technology administrator in the White House's support staff and a government hacker and counterterrorism employee at the Homeland Security Department.

Is it too late to add my email to the list? 

I'm afraid my wife and girlfriends will find out I wasn't looking for sex there and assume I am gay or impotent.

Looking for it. There has to be at least a couple .gov or .mil email address. you'd think they would know about OPSEC?
So just to be sure, is it even legal to download this data? Because a lot of people seem eager to do that.

ROFLMAO.... Do you realize that Ashley Madison had at least one million users, who were using the service to find same-sex relationships? There were around 700,000 women users who were looking for female partners, and some 350,000 male users, who were looking for gay partners. They even had gay users from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Good point.

Well fortunately for those involved in relationships with adolescent intolerant fuckwits (national hat wearing or personal), a name or email on a hacker dump can hardly be seen as proof of looking for a sexual relationship. 

If you are in such a position of being accused of looking for a sexual relationship (imagine the horror, primates looking for a sexual relationship!), it is recommended that you take the leaked .txt file in question and add the email address of your accuser to it, save, and pass it onward.  This might make them think twice about your-name-on-a-list as proof of guilt.