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what cryptoocurrency do you think it will replace bitcoin if and I say bitcoin goes down for one reason ?
im afraid this will happen after all this things about bitcoinXT ,  censorship on reddit about it , people can't agree on one thing and this could be the reason of it's death  and that's my opinion only and most of people may lose their coins if they don't know what they are doing

i don't think that Ethereum have a chance either, on the last hour according to marketcap it was like 65 million USD now it became 75$ million USB , alot of pumping going on and im more then sure it's nothing but regular manipulation that rich people do all the time with different coins .

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edit, yes eth is being pumped for the dump

Frame it
https://i.imgur.com/pMOqGQ3.png

Clearly http://cointelegraph.com/news/115104/ether-dump-price-falls-back-to-earth-as-trading-floors-open (love the title and the image on the article)  ::)

Next month it will be an article about how ethereum is the best thing since sliced bread and the masses will pile in.  By that time it will be too late for you to make a fortune.

Carry on dissing eth.  Just don't end up killing yourself when we reach Bitcoin parity.

This is a very "religious" question. It depends on what you believe. Some say coins like Ripple or Ethereum will replace Bitcoin one day. Others however say movements like NEM, NXT or Qora. I personally believe that Bitcoin will be the #1 coin for a long time. It is the most community and business supported and established coin.

I believe there will be at least a dozens major coins with different specializations and most of them will be part of an integrated network like superNet (http://supernet.org) or something similar. There will be no "one coin to rule them all"

stoat , I can't even find out how to get a wallet for that thing and you are speaking about the future of it and how it will rule the world ?
It's so complicated to understand and there is no way that this alternative coin will go mainstream at least not for now , they should start by having a GUI then we can talk

need suggestions guys , please share your knowledge giving arguments and not saying "this is revolution , download link and you leave" .
thank ya

I like how you slipped in NEM and particularly Qora......ie they don't have a hope in hell but your bag holding them.

People need to look into Vanilla Coin fast. I won't say anything just go look at what it does. And don't let the name put you off, it's not a clone....just sounds like one.

There are good projects outside, But only time will decide it. For only mention some. Ethereum,Supernet,Nxt,etc....... Without getting into arguments Litecoin could to have its reserved place too.

I posted this in a similar topic in the main BTC forum earlier...

Bitcoin will be around for a while yet!  Regardless of the outcome of the (storm in a tea cup) block size change that is required.

It'll be at least 1-2 years before there is anything challenging its #1 spot and it certainly wont be any of the current alternatives.

Many of those have the same basic limitations as BTC, or at best marginally improve them.  Some of them might find niche markets, Ethereum for example, but most will just fade away while being perpetually replaced by "new" alternatives that offer no significant improvements over what BTC can do.

There are a couple of technologies on the horizon that may pose a threat long term, and plenty of minds (including mine) are working on finding ways to implement real "giant leap" improvements.  The problem with research is it's slow work, 2 years and counting for me, more for others, and as far as I know its going to be at least 6 months before any of these exotic technologies are ready to go full steam ahead.  Even then there is the task of ramp up and roll out, which is again time consuming and expensive.

But, whatever it is, you'll know it when it finally arrives.

I think nothing will replace bitcoin (except maybe bitcionXT, or whatever they fork next). Just like in real life, there will be few currencies, each useful for something else. For example, if you value your privacy and anonymity, you will not be using bitcoin in which all transactions are public.  For privacy and anonymity people may do business only in monero or something similar, instead of bitcoin. 10 min block time can be annoying for frequent and small transactions. So something with faster times, like litecoin or even faster can be used. And so on.

I really like NXT.

I am absolutelly with your opinion that what ever the crypto currency or other coins come but at the last they all will be in conversion to Bitcoins. because Bitcoins are only accepted mostly by all traders and countrys.

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Then USD !

im watching bitcoindark/nxt/supernet / vanillacoin  and peercoin (dont believe peercoin can be #1 but i think if PoW coins starts to falldown (btc ltc) PPC could be a temporary choice

edit: 51% is a real problem. big money will not play this game unless we have a more secure alternative

If bitcoin project will failed , all crypto currency coins will failed .......... but if it could achieve successfully the alternatives are dash and monero

I respect your opinion, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. When Myspace failed, did Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. fail after it's demise? No. I truly believe there will be multiple currencies like owm123 said, and bitcoin won't be one of them within 2-3 years from now. I feel like there will still be a demand for crypto currencies if/when bitcoin fails, just like there was still a demand for social media after myspace failed.

It's bitcoin.  That's the form of cryptocurrency adopted by the world.  None of the altcoins will ever surpass bitcoin.  Will there be alternatives?  Yes of course.  But none of them will surpass bitcoin as the cryptocurrency adopted by the world.

This statement is so naive. I would have first thought you were new to crypto because of the ignorance in the comment, but you're a hero member.

Huh???

Monero

Why? It is the most liquid POW coin that does not have a fixed blocksize issue.

A lot of things which are illogical are happening and I don't get it , for example how the hell Ripple price is so high why I don't se anyone speaking about, DASH have more potentials ???

Bitcoin is not going anywhere. Who thinks this, please go here to check how many times bitcoin already "died": https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

But bitcoin is also not a solution to all possible use cases. It has problems with  fungibility, privacy and anonymity for examples. Thus, coins (e.g. monero, dash, etc) which provide solutions to these problems can take second or third spot in crypto market.

Bitcoin is Nr. 1 in crypto, no other coins can be so popular in next years  ;D

Because not many people hold Ripple. Those that does easily manipulate price and with price also the capitalization. Dash is similar.

In 2011, American Express spent $2.22 billion on ads

This was a 62.8% increase from 2009.

TV: $228 million

Magazines: $63 million

Newspapers: $130 million

Internet: $132 million

Other: $1.67 billion


How much did bitcoin spend on advertising last 12 months? Here is the problem.

That's part of the problem , how people can spend BTC on TV if TV dosen't accept Bitcoins ? how can they spend on magazines aswell if magazines dosen't accept Bitcoins ? etc ...
So we need companies that do such of thing then we ask our self's the question you just asked .

try monero, or ethereum or maidsafe, i can't see much else, rest are only shit coins with no features

i agree 100% ..especially that last line.

"ever" is a dangerous word. Bitcoin will stick around for a while at the top.

But blockchain tech is inefficient, it requires much redundancy and energy. Eventually it will be replaced by a completely decentralized currency without blockchain.
It does not exist yet, but it's the next logical step.

speaking about maidsafe , where this crypto currency is accepted exactly ? or we can't use it until the Maidsafe project is launched and working ? honestly same goes for ethereum & monero I don't see any online shops accepting them , if it's just to hold and trade then I don't see what's the point if im not going to use it as currency (real one)

NXT

Where are the potentials of this alternative coin , because according to coinmarketcap it seems like it's not on the top 10 so I don't see what makes it soo good

The price does not tell you if it's good.

A while ago:
http://abload.de/img/cmcrmub6.jpg

Your picture only tells me cryptocurrencies are in a bear market.
Only Ripple manage to remain steady but it is dropping from a few months ago. The rest of the coins on the top 7 have crashed by a lot.

Yes, that was the point.

guys talking about Bitcoin advertising earlier made a great point !
adoption isn't going to come out of thin air for no reason.
i think so far the driving force to new users has been people who come to make money off it all.
we don't have people showing up at Bitcointalk etc because they want to use a digital currency.
those people are out there unaware this stuff exists for the most part and we have to get to them and bring them in.
and unless this crypto scene is cleaned up and focused i don't see that happening.
we already have a black eye from SilkRoad alone never mind Gox etc etc..

SilkRoad and Gox are all news. More recent one:
https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4247-italy-police-shut-down-digital-black-market-babylon

There always be something like this.  So basically, if Bitcoin fails in mass adaptation, every other coin will fail as well. maybe except gov issues coined or something like that, which has even more transparent and even less pseudonymous than bitcoin.

maybe yes, maybe no.....
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

a cryptoo currency controlled by the goverment wouldn't make a lot of sense , right ? I mean we want something decentralized and they are against that , so what's the point ?

we ?
you mean crypto nerds.. *some of them.
i have told you all for ages the only peoples opinions that count are all over the world.
if mass adoption is the goal then what difference doe YOUR opinion matter ?
the real thing that matters is the general public consensus.
is the whole world waiting to join crypto once a coin with anon features are set up ?
is the general public out there going to hold back because of a coin be decentralized or not ?
I get the feeling the world won't care about that and what they WILL care about is if a coin works well..
How under the hood is probably going to more of an after thought.
You think Grandma cares if a coin is decentralized ?
Take a wild guess what some old lady is going to care about (i shouldn't even have to say what it's obvious)

as usual you guys here are all in your own little warped bubble insulated from reality stuck in a loop going nowhere and accomplishing nothing.

If not bitcoin? Is that because of its traceability? Then Anonymous coins such as Monero might replace it. However, Monero needs mixing to stay anonymous, so the block chain size is bloated. I believe traceability is a good feature of bitcoin.

Then I suppose DASH (Darkcoin) would be a good choice if we speaking about the anonymity feature .

Everyone is quick to want to trace their coins when they been robbed.
And then more so with the general public i imagine.

Anon shit is a novelty and a gimmick and a rebel anti-establishment heap of bs.
The only people who will benefit are the criminal underground.

In case you guys didn't notice the criminals control all of this crap.. every bit of it.
Silk Road ?
Bitcointalk Trade Thieves and other misc services scammers. (Pump Groups / Exchanges)
Ransomware coders supposedly generate 325 million usd a year ..where is it spent / used ?

Then calculate what the top 50 shit coin proponents here in the Altcoin section every day hold.
1 million worth of BTC ? ..that is generous LOL

I have always found it funny how scammers pump out schemes then let fanboys do all the work defending it etc.
Take Anon shit.. a handful of poor nerds being wannbee keyboard warriors are battling here 24/7
in the name of freedom.. on behalf of a 1 billion dollar criminal underground economy.
And none of those guys have to show their face LOL
They have and use 99.99% of all the coins and make up their own rules for this crypto game.
and ALL OF YOU do the work for them like blind lemmings over the cliff..
..
What do i care if my coins can possibly be tracked using Bitcoin etc ?
Do i have something to hide ? of course not.. i could care less.
..
The group of nerds that sit here bumping their 560 page shill topic push the Anon gimmick so it pad's their wallets.
Same with the tacked on market shit.. or they Crypto 2.0 jargon (appealing to the noobs)
It's their way of pulling the long con Ponzi / pyramid scheme.
You can run a Pump & dump long term or short term.
And these weazles want all the new guys that come along to invest in Monero or whatever
so later down the road they can cash out large coin and get pink Bentley's and Lambo's.

Meanwhile they have to spam and shill hard any gimmick that will lure in the crowd.. what ever takes !
It's a farce and every one of us knows it too !
But we all play along to make money of the naive suckers that stumble in here..

The top 10 on Coimarketcap are nothing but long-con pyramid schemes.
There seems to be this pushed fallacy that if you defend something long enough it magically becomes legit.
ROFL nooooope .

EDIT:
see ? ..look at the ShillTard above my comment !

EDIT2:
In case mod's deleted that guys comment he said nothing but "LTC" in huge bold letters.

Iota or NEM