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Title: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: yummyransom on August 24, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
In my situation, I can say that I am a religious person. I usually visited our church and I really believed that God created us.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Garwidha on September 01, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
It's a difficult question I guess.
Well...for me we can't judge someone religious or not through how often he/she goes to church or other religious services.
I think a religious person is someone who always does good things.
And I'm not sure which one I belong to.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Kingno.1 on September 01, 2015, 03:35:24 PM
I am a religious person


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Atheist on September 01, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
I m an atheist an orthologist.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Kayla on September 01, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
I think I'm not a religious person.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 01, 2015, 08:53:16 PM
I am currently not religious,but never know if I want to cover all bases on the way out.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: ryan_mc_dermo on September 01, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
I believe in proof therefore believe in science and not mythical beings


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 01, 2015, 09:17:39 PM
I believe in proof therefore believe in science and not mythical beings

Yet it something that can not be proven yet. So you must keep that aspect open or the science aspect you speak about is void.
Im not into religion but you can't say one way or another. My only issue is religions will not let me live in peace and feel they must convert me or chop off my head.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: actmyname on September 01, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
I'm just an atheist. Since birth I've kept this ideology and don't plan on converting to anything any time soon.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: jtmf26 on September 01, 2015, 09:29:02 PM
Believe people should have faith but not really believe it something which was written by someone thousands of years ago I believe jesus may of been real but not the super human powers but a good person and thats why people generally talked and write about him those days


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: vengeful on September 02, 2015, 03:32:04 AM
i used to be... but now I'm not...
if people started believing in humanity more than any other thing i don't think there'd be any need for religion...


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Suzan on September 02, 2015, 03:41:05 AM
I guess I'm not.
I rarely go to mosque.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: yummyransom on September 12, 2015, 03:41:51 AM
I think I'm not a religious person.
How did you know that?
I mean, you don't believe on God?


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: yummyransom on September 12, 2015, 03:43:26 AM
I am a religious person
Nice to know that you're a religious person like me.
I really believe that God creates us.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: karanggatak on September 12, 2015, 03:45:44 AM
i'm religious person


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vod on September 12, 2015, 05:40:50 AM
I am a religious person
Nice to know that you're a religious person like me.
I really believe that God creates us.

Then FUCK your god for letting thousands of people die each day from starvation, sickness, etc.

Can't the idiot simply look down and see he shouldn't be creating any more people right now?



Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Lauda on September 12, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
Then FUCK your god for letting thousands of people die each day from starvation, sickness, etc.

Can't the idiot simply look down and see he shouldn't be creating any more people right now?
But dude you're wrong, according to them this "god" should not be intervening in such things. I mean honestly if two people decide to fight each other/kill each other, I understand. But what about the innocent that get killed? Oh right, great god that they have.  ::)

I'm definitely not religious at all which is obvious. This is just another of plenty threads that are discussing the same thing. I do not have anything against believers who do not try to push over their nonsense to me. Aside from those individuals (and a few other examples), you have my respect.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: peter0021 on September 12, 2015, 08:14:43 AM
I am a religious person
Nice to know that you're a religious person like me.
I really believe that God creates us.

Then FUCK your god for letting thousands of people die each day from starvation, sickness, etc.

Can't the idiot simply look down and see he shouldn't be creating any more people right now?


he is creating new people because the older ones are sucking BOOBS since 1970.
hehe


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vod on September 12, 2015, 08:25:13 AM
It's no big deal if I piss off one god.    People believe in thousands of others.  I'm sure some of those gods don't like what the christian god is doing (killing millions), and have got my back.  I think it would make a good Mortal Combat level!

Just like women, there are a thousand different gods out there.  Don't worship just one, or you end up screwed.  


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Soha on September 12, 2015, 08:29:00 AM
 ;D I'm follow Buhda, I go to pagoda each special holiday.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Rajbir1994 on September 12, 2015, 10:20:18 AM
Trying to be religious person.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: abody1233 on September 12, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
No


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: sana6801 on September 12, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
somewhat yeas.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 12, 2015, 08:53:20 PM
Brace yourselves everyone for some plank (we all know who) claiming everyone is religious, even Atheists. He'll be along shortly. :D


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 12, 2015, 08:58:36 PM
Brace yourselves everyone for some plank (we all know who) claiming everyone is religious, even Atheists. He'll be along shortly. :D


That is why I cringed when I saw this post,knowing the trolling from Politics would flow over to this forum.
Once he arrives (starts with a B) his competing trolls will light this into a 50 page epic he said/she said!

Its odd debating with religious people as well,its something that drains me.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 12, 2015, 08:59:52 PM
no. at least I don't think that I'm a religious person.

(we all know who)

you lost me. who?


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 12, 2015, 09:08:06 PM
His name is BAD   ecker

but there is no space between bad and ecker. Just do not want to send up the bat signal by writing the name.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: XEPBAM on September 12, 2015, 10:49:35 PM
More likely no than yes


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: xgold on September 12, 2015, 10:53:40 PM
Yes I am.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: tristar1000 on September 13, 2015, 09:24:50 AM
I'm not.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: kenbytes on September 13, 2015, 02:56:48 PM
im  not so religious ..i dont like people who dedicate the live to religion  8)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: bank of bits on September 14, 2015, 06:25:26 AM
Spiritual not necessarily religious. I believe everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and I respect what they believe in.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 14, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Spiritual not necessarily religious. I believe everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and I respect what they believe in.

So you are willing to conform when the religion of the time demands tribute?
History shows that religions will force society to follow when they have the big stick to enforce with.

I used to think like you but I have run into to many people that claim to be religious that eventually tell me I am going to hell for some reason or another.
The righteousness that comes from believing rubs me the wrong way as well. The whole I will not force it on you is b.s!
Right now in Canada we are trying to get "Right to die" laws passed and the only thing stopping it is our religious government. To say religion will not be force fed
is complete donkey crap. My life,no god has power over that!


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BADecker on September 14, 2015, 11:13:32 PM
I am noticing quite a few people who are religiously non-religious in this thread.    :D


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Sourgummies on September 14, 2015, 11:18:28 PM
I am noticing quite a few people who are religiously non-religious in this thread.    :D

He has arrived... 8)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Losvienleg on September 18, 2015, 10:02:36 PM
I'm heavily religious.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: UliJonHoth on September 18, 2015, 10:44:13 PM
No, I'm not at all.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 19, 2015, 02:47:01 AM
Could I tell you guys about Joseph Smith?


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: White sugar on September 19, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Could I tell you guys about Joseph Smith?

I know you posted waiting someone to ask, but since you are nice:

What about Joseph Smith?


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 19, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
Could I tell you guys about Joseph Smith?

I know you posted waiting someone to ask, but since you are nice:

What about Joseph Smith?

Well, I think those of you that are tough on religion will be pleasantly surprised by Mormonism. It's based on facts and not faith so it meets the needs of anyone really.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: saladin7000 on September 20, 2015, 12:40:49 PM
Not sure  ;D


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 21, 2015, 02:29:54 PM
BiPolarBob, what is it that makes Mormonism meet the needs of anyone really.?


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: sinaninkisi on September 21, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
yes i'm religious person.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 21, 2015, 09:38:02 PM
BiPolarBob, what is it that makes Mormonism meet the needs of anyone really.?

I'm not sure actually.. The only thing I know about Mormonism is what SouthPark taught me.  ???


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: amacar2 on September 21, 2015, 09:40:51 PM
I only believe in bipolarbob  :D


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 21, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
I only believe in bipolarbob  :D

That would require you to tithe your BTC to me...


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: amacar2 on September 21, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
I only believe in bipolarbob  :D

That would require you to tithe your BTC to me...

Paste your address and I will give everything I have (must say in advance that it is not much).


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BADecker on September 21, 2015, 10:02:30 PM
This thread could bring out some interesting ideas. However, everybody is religious. Even a vegetable (person) is religiously a vegetable.

:)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: MrsHash on September 22, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Difficult question for me too. I believe that there is someone or something who created us, more powerful, intelligent. But I don't go to church. I think religion is inside us. For me, religion is to believe in your own power, to be a better person, make the world around you better and help others if someone need your help.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Balthazar on September 22, 2015, 11:32:31 AM
Orthodox Christian, this says enough.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Patejl on September 22, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
If you call atheism a religion then yes I am religious


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Katerinka on September 22, 2015, 11:56:00 AM

I believe in God, but rarely attend church . Vseravno the shield himself a religious man .


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: maartenhaha on September 22, 2015, 11:58:46 AM
post 49 ... it started lol

i'm not religious, there is no vacant room left for another one in my head. lol

i red all bibles,testaments, corans and what ever and still see it all as a big fairytale
i just can't  wrap my mind around it that even today still there are people that believe in all that nonsense.
the majority all those before me in my family where athiests, resisting and fighting against those dictatorial regimes in the past i'm damn sure i will never bend my knee to one of those fairytales  and neither will those that come after me.

i have no problems having a pint,tea, some porkshops, cous cous ( i actually love that and make wonderfull couscous they say ^^) or a bowl of rice with a religious person,  lolling or serious talk, aslong you keep your religion at home. i don't debate with religion nor about it, it's just a waist of time.

and if anyone tries to make you believe atheism is a religion, then you know what you're dealing with, there is no point, run away


whe're all born under the same moon, don't forget that :)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 12:44:38 PM
post 49 ... it started lol

i'm not religious, there is no vacant room left for another one in my head. lol

i red all bibles,testaments, corans and what ever and still see it all as a big fairytale
i just can't  wrap my mind around it that even today still there are people that believe in all that nonsense.
the majority all those before me in my family where athiests, resisting and fighting against those dictatorial regimes in the past i'm damn sure i will never bend my knee to one of those fairytales  and neither will those that come after me.

i have no problems having a pint,tea, some porkshops, cous cous ( i actually love that and make wonderfull couscous they say ^^) or a bowl of rice with a religious person,  lolling or serious talk, aslong you keep your religion at home. i don't debate with religion nor about it, it's just a waist of time.

and if anyone tries to make you believe atheism is a religion, then you know what you're dealing with, there is no point, run away


whe're all born under the same moon, don't forget that :)

Yes to the bolded above. So, we all have religion, even if our religion is to be adamantly against religion. Then our religion is an anti-religion religion.

:)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Losvienleg on September 22, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
post 49 ... it started lol

i'm not religious, there is no vacant room left for another one in my head. lol

i red all bibles,testaments, corans and what ever and still see it all as a big fairytale
i just can't  wrap my mind around it that even today still there are people that believe in all that nonsense.
the majority all those before me in my family where athiests, resisting and fighting against those dictatorial regimes in the past i'm damn sure i will never bend my knee to one of those fairytales  and neither will those that come after me.

i have no problems having a pint,tea, some porkshops, cous cous ( i actually love that and make wonderfull couscous they say ^^) or a bowl of rice with a religious person,  lolling or serious talk, aslong you keep your religion at home. i don't debate with religion nor about it, it's just a waist of time.

and if anyone tries to make you believe atheism is a religion, then you know what you're dealing with, there is no point, run away


whe're all born under the same moon, don't forget that :)

Yes to the bolded above. So, we all have religion, even if our religion is to be adamantly against religion. Then our religion is an anti-religion religion.

:)

I do not agree with you on the fact that everyone has a religion. Atheism can't be considered as a religion since there is no cult nor god. It's just a group a people thinking that there is no god. If you call it a religion because there is a quite big group of people having the same idea on a subject, then call a politic party a religion.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: btvGainer on September 22, 2015, 04:08:39 PM
In my situation, I can say that I am a religious person. I usually visited our church and I really believed that God created us.
I dont do much religious rituals but i am a very religious person as my faith in God is firm


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: davincicode666 on September 22, 2015, 08:12:55 PM
nope


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BADecker on September 22, 2015, 08:46:47 PM
post 49 ... it started lol

i'm not religious, there is no vacant room left for another one in my head. lol

i red all bibles,testaments, corans and what ever and still see it all as a big fairytale
i just can't  wrap my mind around it that even today still there are people that believe in all that nonsense.
the majority all those before me in my family where athiests, resisting and fighting against those dictatorial regimes in the past i'm damn sure i will never bend my knee to one of those fairytales  and neither will those that come after me.

i have no problems having a pint,tea, some porkshops, cous cous ( i actually love that and make wonderfull couscous they say ^^) or a bowl of rice with a religious person,  lolling or serious talk, aslong you keep your religion at home. i don't debate with religion nor about it, it's just a waist of time.

and if anyone tries to make you believe atheism is a religion, then you know what you're dealing with, there is no point, run away


whe're all born under the same moon, don't forget that :)

Yes to the bolded above. So, we all have religion, even if our religion is to be adamantly against religion. Then our religion is an anti-religion religion.

:)

I do not agree with you on the fact that everyone has a religion. Atheism can't be considered as a religion since there is no cult nor god. It's just a group a people thinking that there is no god. If you call it a religion because there is a quite big group of people having the same idea on a subject, then call a politic party a religion.

Buddhism doesn't really have a God, either, does it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism)? The Buddha is only an instructor, a guide. Yet Buddhism is considered a religion... one of the greatest.

While Wikipedia suggests that atheism is NOT a religion, other websites show that atheism either IS a religion, or is so close to a religion that it might be religion for some atheists. Google "atheism religion."

:)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Losvienleg on September 23, 2015, 05:32:55 AM
post 49 ... it started lol

i'm not religious, there is no vacant room left for another one in my head. lol

i red all bibles,testaments, corans and what ever and still see it all as a big fairytale
i just can't  wrap my mind around it that even today still there are people that believe in all that nonsense.
the majority all those before me in my family where athiests, resisting and fighting against those dictatorial regimes in the past i'm damn sure i will never bend my knee to one of those fairytales  and neither will those that come after me.

i have no problems having a pint,tea, some porkshops, cous cous ( i actually love that and make wonderfull couscous they say ^^) or a bowl of rice with a religious person,  lolling or serious talk, aslong you keep your religion at home. i don't debate with religion nor about it, it's just a waist of time.

and if anyone tries to make you believe atheism is a religion, then you know what you're dealing with, there is no point, run away


whe're all born under the same moon, don't forget that :)

Yes to the bolded above. So, we all have religion, even if our religion is to be adamantly against religion. Then our religion is an anti-religion religion.

:)

I do not agree with you on the fact that everyone has a religion. Atheism can't be considered as a religion since there is no cult nor god. It's just a group a people thinking that there is no god. If you call it a religion because there is a quite big group of people having the same idea on a subject, then call a politic party a religion.

Buddhism doesn't really have a God, either, does it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism)? The Buddha is only an instructor, a guide. Yet Buddhism is considered a religion... one of the greatest.

While Wikipedia suggests that atheism is NOT a religion, other websites show that atheism either IS a religion, or is so close to a religion that it might be religion for some atheists. Google "atheism religion."

:)

That's why stipulated "cult nor god". Even if they haven't any god, they have some rituals and cults. Something that I'm not aware that atheists do. But maybe I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 24, 2015, 03:39:18 PM
BiPolarBob, what is it that makes Mormonism meet the needs of anyone really.?

I'm not sure actually.. The only thing I know about Mormonism is what SouthPark taught me.  ???

lol I knew you weren't going to be serious with that one.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: saturn643 on September 24, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
I wasn't ever really religious because I had issues with some of the ideas that Christianity has.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 24, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
I wasn't ever really religious because I had issues with some of the ideas that Christianity has.
Christianity isn't the only one you can choose you know.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Losvienleg on September 25, 2015, 07:19:53 PM
I wasn't ever really religious because I had issues with some of the ideas that Christianity has.

Which ideas in particular ? In general it's not as dictatorial as the Islam.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: DickSwagger on September 25, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 25, 2015, 09:10:17 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.

Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.

This might help you understand: Let's say your best friend is about to die, and you have the cure. He/she says "I believe there is no cure, but you can believe what you want as long as you don't try to change my mind."

This shows the flaw in your thinking.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: DickSwagger on September 26, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.

Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.

This might help you understand: Let's say your best friend is about to die, and you have the cure. He/she says "I believe there is no cure, but you can believe what you want as long as you don't try to change my mind."

This shows the flaw in your thinking.
;D That is if i believed in a hell, and your friend is about to die and you have the cure, lol. Unfortunately your cure is a fiction of your belief. maybe.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: michietn94 on September 26, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
Once I'm religious. But when I grown up , I'm realize that I pray for something that never exist.

God create us or We create God

AFAIK, solar system were being created by explosion that more can you learn on school lesson


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 26, 2015, 08:00:27 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Once I'm religious. But when I grown up , I'm realize that I pray for something that never exist.

God create us or We create God

AFAIK, solar system were being created by explosion that more can you learn on school lesson
Well that doesn't disprove God. God could of created the explosion.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: actmyname on September 26, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Once I'm religious. But when I grown up , I'm realize that I pray for something that never exist.

God create us or We create God

AFAIK, solar system were being created by explosion that more can you learn on school lesson
Well that doesn't disprove God. God could of created the explosion.


The biggest issue with religious debate is the constant use of burden of proof.

I would like people to convey purely constructive points as opposed to resorting to fallacies.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 26, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Then your thinking is still in error. It's like me saying "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack."

And you rebuff with, I ignore people that threaten me.

-BPB


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 26, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Then your thinking is still in error. It's like me saying "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack."

And you rebuff with, I ignore people that threaten me.

-BPB

It's completely and totally not like "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." at all, in anyway, shape or form.

"Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." is a valid argument because we have a mountain of evidence that suggests eating large amounts of unhealthy food is very bad for our bodies and does increase heart attack chances greatly.
In complete polar contrast "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell." has ZERO evidence attached to it. Since NOBODY knows what happens when we die, people claiming they do know and present it as fact, are simply LYING.



Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 26, 2015, 08:46:32 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Then your thinking is still in error. It's like me saying "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack."

And you rebuff with, I ignore people that threaten me.

-BPB

It's completely and totally not like "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." at all, in anyway, shape or form.

"Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." is a valid argument because we have a mountain of evidence that suggests eating large amounts of unhealthy food is very bad for our bodies and does increase heart attack chances greatly.
In complete polar contrast "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell." has ZERO evidence attached to it. Since NOBODY knows what happens when we die, people claiming they do know and present it as fact, are simply LYING.



You are going off in a different direction again so let me realign your thinking. I wasn't claiming anything about evidence (it's a matter of faith anyway), I was only claiming that it was NOT a threat.

Remember, a religion person doesn't say believe or *I* will send you to hell. They are simply educating you on the implications of your sinful nature (similar to eating McDonalds every day) and the consequence that results.

They are not thereating you, they are trying to help you.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: bb2ebb on September 26, 2015, 09:30:50 PM
I've never eat at McDonalds because the food at McDonalds can make my body be a obesity.  My experience eating in McDonalds shows that food in McDonalds very unhygienic


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 26, 2015, 09:43:12 PM
I've never eat at McDonalds because the food at McDonalds can make my body be a obesity.  My experience eating in McDonalds shows that food in McDonalds very unhygienic

You won't become obese from eating it once, but you will suffer eternal punishment if you sin just once. There is a huge difference here.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Racey on September 26, 2015, 09:45:22 PM
Not a religious person at all, I know how how to act with humanity (self taught)


Religion has been one of the main causes of wars through out the centuries, so it's not my thing.I once wrote this on another forum.

Quote
"The greatest things on earth are us,supposedly.
Why don't we act accordingly, with humanity"

Now think about that quote, act accordingly or reap what you sow.

EvilBible (http://www.evilbible.com/)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: bb2ebb on September 26, 2015, 09:59:35 PM
I've never eat at McDonalds because the food at McDonalds can make my body be a obesity.  My experience eating in McDonalds shows that food in McDonalds very unhygienic

You won't become obese from eating it once, but you will suffer eternal punishment if you sin just once. There is a huge difference here.

yes, sure. I won't become obese from eating it once. but found the fact who can scares me, that made me will not to do it again :)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: High Plains Drifter on September 26, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
You choose the religion which is true, not one that suits you.  Catholicism is the true faith, all others are false.  Some are very false (Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism etc), some are partially true and only have certain tenets which are false (Protestantism, Judaism). 


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: BiPolarBob on September 26, 2015, 10:41:45 PM
You choose the religion which is true, not one that suits you.  Catholicism is the true faith, all others are false.  Some are very false (Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism etc), some are partially true and only have certain tenets which are false (Protestantism, Judaism). 

I would say even those that have matching tenets are still false, if they are not part of the real church (Catholic).


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: DickSwagger on September 27, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
Difficult subject, as others views are generally not respected. But i believe that everybody is alowed their belief as long as they dont try to convert me im fine with it.
Yes but you have to realize, they are trying to save you from enternal torment in hell. It's not an act of conversion, it's an act of mercy.
Once you peel away all the fancy gloss paint and pretty wallpaper, underneath they are simply threatening people with "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell."

I ignore people that threaten me.


Then your thinking is still in error. It's like me saying "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack."

And you rebuff with, I ignore people that threaten me.

-BPB

It's completely and totally not like "Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." at all, in anyway, shape or form.

"Don't eat McDonald's every day or you will get a heart attack." is a valid argument because we have a mountain of evidence that suggests eating large amounts of unhealthy food is very bad for our bodies and does increase heart attack chances greatly.
In complete polar contrast "Believe/join in my religious cult, or burn in hell." has ZERO evidence attached to it. Since NOBODY knows what happens when we die, people claiming they do know and present it as fact, are simply LYING.



You are going off in a different direction again so let me realign your thinking. I wasn't claiming anything about evidence (it's a matter of faith anyway), I was only claiming that it was NOT a threat.

Remember, a religion person doesn't say believe or *I* will send you to hell. They are simply educating you on the implications of your sinful nature (similar to eating McDonalds every day) and the consequence that results.

They are not thereating you, they are trying to help you.
If i need education i take a class or this case go to a church.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: DickSwagger on September 27, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
What if our perception of religion is wrong. What if its a guide on how to live so you can live fore-ever, but not through a external judgement. You know right from wrong so every time you feel bad through your actions you littlle by little weakening your soul or life force or whatever you want to call it. Bigger the wrong the bigger the loss. I doubt a perfect creation cant have that builtin. So maybe the what religion or the who's who in it is not the point at all, but rather the how to live. But mostly people tend to "believe" they are right and to be right somebody else must be wrong. And doing bad things in the name of good is acheiving something other than damning themselves. 


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: funnycoin on September 27, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
I am not. I still don't see a good reason why I should become a religious person.



Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: insulter on September 28, 2015, 11:50:29 PM
i cant call im religious person but i believe what my religion said


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vod on September 29, 2015, 12:44:05 AM
I am not. I still don't see a good reason why I should become a religious person.



You'd be a happier person.  You wouldn't need to worry about real life issues - you could just stick your head in the sand and think Vod'll figure it out.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: TTMNewsMJ on October 17, 2015, 06:36:23 AM
Yes I am a religious person.
I believed that God is real.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: generalizethis on October 17, 2015, 07:02:38 AM
What if our perception of religion is wrong. What if its a guide on how to live so you can live fore-ever, but not through a external judgement. You know right from wrong so every time you feel bad through your actions you littlle by little weakening your soul or life force or whatever you want to call it. Bigger the wrong the bigger the loss. I doubt a perfect creation cant have that builtin. So maybe the what religion or the who's who in it is not the point at all, but rather the how to live. But mostly people tend to "believe" they are right and to be right somebody else must be wrong. And doing bad things in the name of good is acheiving something other than damning themselves.  


Problem with the bolded part is that sociapaths and psychopaths don't have this psychological feature* to the extent you are talking about or at all. And sometimes it works in reverse--there are people who get as excited as someone talking about their favorite Christmas memory when they are reminiscing the torture and murder of someone.

*A part of the brain creates moral feelings and can be manipulated in the lab using an EMP. It also functions differently within each person naturally. So if god created man, he or she or it did so without giving humans an equal moral compass.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8593748.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8593748.stm)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: confirmation120 on October 17, 2015, 07:09:16 AM
I believe in a god (the creator) but not the christian god and jesus.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Racey on October 17, 2015, 12:49:33 PM
Free will is lost with religion, carry on being sheep  ;D

All religions contradict each other with nonsense aimed at thos who cannot think for themselves.
Please wake up out of your slumber, I suppose you believe in politicians too.

Some people are two faced (hypocrites) they join the armed forces then go kill/murder another human.

Go read the EvilBible (http://www.evilbible.com/)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: hawkins on October 17, 2015, 01:36:54 PM
i am a muslim  :)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: recklessrager on October 17, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
the problem with religion is that it stopped fulfilling its purpose to humanity when science took off. Religion is stuck in the dark ages.

If you you really want religion to be of benefit to you, do not pay attention to any dogmatic bullshit. Instead, you must become a scholar and do the actual research. This is not for the weak-minded or faint-hearted. If you do not like having your beliefs challenged, this is not for you. Perform alchemy on religion. Do the work. Religion in modern culture as it stands is for the lazy.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Racey on October 17, 2015, 05:34:31 PM
the problem with religion is that it stopped fulfilling its purpose to humanity when science took off. Religion is stuck in the dark ages.

If you you really want religion to be of benefit to you, do not pay attention to any dogmatic bullshit. Instead, you must become a scholar and do the actual research. This is not for the weak-minded or faint-hearted. If you do not like having your beliefs challenged, this is not for you. Perform alchemy on religion. Do the work. Religion in modern culture as it stands is for the lazy.

Thw best type of alchemy comes from within, when you have become, and understand that part of the whole universe you are.
Self being, self aware without being told or taught, then you have you very own and very private form of religion.
It's good to know your self, when you just know.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: recklessrager on October 17, 2015, 05:43:19 PM

Thw best type of alchemy comes from within, when you have become, and understand that part of the whole universe you are.
Self being, self aware without being told or taught, then you have you very own and very private form of religion.
It's good to know your self, when you just know.

Good.


I see you.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 17, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
Self being, self aware without being told or taught, then you have you very own and very private form of religion.
Master of your own religion or a slave to someone else's.

I like that.  :)



Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Rezonans969 on October 17, 2015, 08:40:28 PM
I was not always a believer , but at some point with me that something had happened to me and that no one was pushing , I'm a 100% believer and I am sure that the right people themselves will find their faith !
 PS: Sorry for my english ...


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: bill gator on October 17, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
I'm not a religious-person, but i respect other people's faith and belief in religion.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: usairx on October 18, 2015, 01:31:17 AM
I am not religious but I do believe in a Creator that is the origin of life


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: LouisVuitton on October 18, 2015, 01:32:32 AM
I believe there is a god, however I don't particularly participate in religious activities.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: xmaxbit on October 18, 2015, 03:40:48 AM
I am not a religious person .


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: FanEagle on October 18, 2015, 05:34:52 AM
I believe in superior beings, but I'm still trying to understand what was before the first big bang,my actual idea is a time paradox.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: recklessrager on October 18, 2015, 05:45:51 AM
I believe in superior beings, but I'm still trying to understand what was before the first big bang,my actual idea is a time paradox.

time is not linear

I imagine a toroidal shape could explain a universe contracting while simultaneously expanding

applied to space-time it makes alot more sense than what they preach in grade school


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: arwani1985 on October 18, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
yes


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: dragansk1 on October 18, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
Yes I am religious person. I am believe in god, go to church, I am glory the religious holidays.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Ashwell John on October 18, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Of course religious. I always follow my religious rules and guidelines.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: TTMNewsMJ on October 29, 2015, 01:38:18 AM
Yes. I am a religious person.
I believe that there's God.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Faradey100 on November 10, 2015, 04:48:23 PM
Yes,l am:-)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: jackg on November 10, 2015, 05:10:29 PM
I too, am a religious person. I have beliefs in the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and go to church as often as I can. I know that 70% of the world's population are religious and believe in God. As part of the Lords teachings we are taught not to judge anyone upon their actions/beliefs/life on Earth.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: jackg on November 10, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
I believe in superior beings, but I'm still trying to understand what was before the first big bang,my actual idea is a time paradox.

time is not linear

I imagine a toroidal shape could explain a universe contracting while simultaneously expanding

applied to space-time it makes alot more sense than what they preach in grade school

I think that there is Infinite Big Bangs. When the universe undergoes a Big Bang, it lives for a while, while it is expanding. When it stops expanding as it slows due to gravity, the Universe collapses back in on itself to start another Big Bang.

Time is a result of Gravity, no gravity no time. Gravity is what is needed for everything, it causes atoms to be stable due to the gravity acting on the electrons.

However, I have two beliefs on life after death.
I believe that either God exists

I also think that there are too many similarities between the structure of atoms and the structure of solar systems, meaning that there may be smaller universes that exist within ours and may even be universes that exist within us and the things we use which may relate to decomposition of people, with their size decreasing so they move to the next level of the universe.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: MisO69 on November 10, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
I'm religious when I have to be.

Jesus Saves..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm38xVMa5Ic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm38xVMa5Ic)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: mohsin qureshi on November 26, 2015, 07:04:21 AM
well yes i am a religious person. i do believe that any religion of the world never preach us for doing wrong. Affiliation with the religion (any one) is the counter check of your activities if you just practice on your religion the problems of the world must be resolved because as i said  that every religion teach us love and peace.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vod on November 26, 2015, 07:11:00 AM
I'm intelligent, so obviously I reject all religion.   :)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Szaja1990 on November 26, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
Yes Im


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Loimu on November 26, 2015, 11:02:48 AM
I am not religious, at all. If I could, I would wipe all religions from this world.

It really is almost absurd how many adults believe in god still in 2015 and support religions. To me it is a straight away sign of persons intellectual capabilities. Seriously, religions cause so much bad in this world through wars and conflicts and all what it essentially is, is bunch of grown up people competing whose imaginary friend is the best. Ridiculous.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vod on November 26, 2015, 11:04:31 AM
To me it is a straight away sign of persons intellectual capabilities.

Not just to you, but to many others as well.

Personally, I do no business or trade with anyone that displays a religious icon, like a cross.  It shows a massive weakness in their decision making skills that will transfer to MY pocket book if I deal with them.   :-\


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: PrikiNo.1 on November 26, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
There is a big difference in how people believe in God, but what is actually true...

What is religion? Is there difference between religion and spirituality? Who are true believers? - This are the question that I wan to give do the public and also I will give my answers:

1. Religion is group of people who is guided by on person. That person is teach them what to think, instead how to think. This are usually the preachers who hypocritically lead the temples.
2. The difference between religion and spirituality is that spirituality gives you freedom. You don't have to heard what people tells you to do, instead you read, think and practice the things that you explore in the books.
3. True believers are those who walk the God's path on their own. They are always in search for new and new answers. They know how to pray and meditate, they know the meanings of the churches and also know how to teach the others on what is right and what is wrong.

According to me, there are 3 types of people. Believers, atheist and religious people. I have more respect to  atheist then to those who are religious and you know why? - Because, I am sure that if you give the answers to a guy who never know anything about spirituality I am 90% sure that he become a true believer, rather then the religious guy... :)


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: TTMNewsMJ on November 26, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Yes.
I am a religious person.


Title: Re: Are you a religious person or not?
Post by: Vannterson on November 26, 2015, 12:13:48 PM
I like to think that I am, although I don't attend church anymore, I used to in past. I'm living with the mindset that I believe in God but not the church.