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They permanently closed my Wallet account for selling bitcoin...
Luckily I had no funds remaining in the account

https://i.imgur.com/0TeBTlu.png

None of the messages you shared even hint at the reason why they closed your account, let alone mention Bitcoin.

I think you need to give us more proof that Google shutdown your wallet due to bitcoin transactions. It seems REALLY unlikely that using a Google wallet to buy Bitcoin would be a reason for them to shut you down. They're not in the business of stifling options, creativity or innovation...in fact they are a business that operates under the opposite objective. Plus, Google sits in the heart of Silicon Valley, one of the central locations for Bitcoin success!

Pictures or didn't happen...

You dont see the threat of bitcoin for Google, REALLY!?

No. Google doesn't have a competing currency, they have an account and payments system. If Google feels they're losing fiat business to bitcoin they can allow bitcoin to be one of the currencies people can transact with. It's synonymous to PayPal...it's agnostic of currency choice.

Bitcoin synonymous to Paypal, for real, we come from two different worlds :)

The funny thing is I spoke with support before a few months ago and specifically asked them if I could use google wallet to sell bitcoin.
They said yes, and referenced this page (https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/6052084?hl=en).

10 minutes after this conversation I received an e-mail saying my wallet card (https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/3529204?hl=en) was suspended.
5 minutes after that e-mail I got another saying my entire account is closed.

https://i.imgur.com/TxIcq8C.png

Google is a spying, lying, cheating bastard of a company. Any dealings you do with them should never be considered secure or private. You probably shouldn't have had your wallet closed, but you should have had your butt spanked for making a Google wallet account anyway.

Anyway, it's over now. Just go to Paypal instead.

They annoy me also :P

All payments I receive on my PayPal account are currently subject to a 21 day hold before I can withdraw (unless its from a friend) as a 'security measure'

Strange how things work... Bing incorporate Bitcoin payments if you use it and Google ban you if you use it. They are known to work closely with the spy agencies in America, so I do not use them at all.
In one of the Vice documentaries about North Korea, they visited a IT centre and people were sitting in front of computers, looking busy. The one guy had the Google search page open, but he was just staring at the page.

It's ironic how they would use that to try and fool the American basketball team that visited them. The company that collect all your activity and passing it on to the American agencies.

why you love Google?
Google only pay paypal but not for bitcoin, I hate google  :(

as a payments system i'm not trusting anything anymore, google is good for other purpose

they are acting practically like paypal, and close account for stupid reason, they want to "protect"(they say) customers against bitcoin, like bitcoin is the bad thing here, which isn't

Well this is what happens when  you are dealing with the centralized company that has a power to decide if you did something right or wrong and can take sides as they wish.

Luckily, this doesn't exist with Bitcoin. Nobody can come and close your wallet for this or that reason. Lets just give it time, when people around the world see the difference between dealing with centralized against decentralized, sky will be the limit.

i agree this is the best example why you should use bitcoin..

Right. I only use Google for its search engine and email service and nothing else. For online payments and transactions, I only limit my use to bitcoin because PayPal and VISA screwed me several times over back then and I only lost money from my transactions because of the hassles that I encounter on using their service (the 21-day hold period of funds that you received from someone that isn't in your circle is true, screw you, Pp) whereas in bitcoin, I don't encounter such a thing. No one can actually close my wallet for some reasons they could think of because I am the sole owner of it.



They can take any sides they want as they wish, provided that it was indicated in their ToS. They can put literally almost anything they want in there, without you even knowing it. And you can do so much about it, because you're just a user in their platform.



Totally agree. Freedom is here in bitcoin, the problem is that because of the freedom that you have in bitcoin, some nasty users tend to take advantage of that.

Have there been cases of Google holding peoples funds for months without any specified reason?
Happened a lot with Paypal accounts.

No payment processor wants to shut down accounts. They're forced to cover their arse by the avalanche of G men breathing down their necks. Moan to your local politician, not them.

No, they are not. They are known for being pretty transparent about their activity and opposing US-government as good as they can.
This FUD about Google is ridiculous. As far as I remember, there was even evidence when Sony e-mails got leaked, that Sony started a PR-campaign against google.

Unfortunately if you are running multi million dollar company of that caliber you need to be lying and cheating. There is no way of honest business when you need to please people and government at the same time.
Google is just being cautious about potential fraudulent accounts, that is perfectly understandable. But saying that paypal is better is a bit too much.

Paypal returned a payment that neither I or the customer wanted to happen and then refused the payment when the customer tried again to pay me. They then locked the account. They can go for a running jump and I hope their gonads get infested with fire ants.

Then I went with Google. Was happy with them for a while but they changed their service from Google <whatever>to Google Wallet Digital Downloads. Was a bit miffed but transitioned with a bit of effort.

Then they shut down Wallet digital downloads and there was no longer a service I could use with them. I'm now with Stripe. Very happy with Stripe. 7 days and your money is in your bank account. Cheaper fees than Google were. They will even act as a Bitcoin payment processor for you so I doubt they are anti bitcoin; although I don't need that service. Sweet web interface too. Been with them for 1 year without any problems.

If this is ture it say that google is starting to notice bout bitcoin. This is a good movement.

GOOD!

GOOD RIDDANCE GOOGLE!!!

Now go hi-five all the people in your general area, clock out and drink the rest of the day.

It reads like you asked something to be done because you suspected fraud. Would closing your wallet not be an acceptable response from them? Like a bank closes an account if it's been compromised by fraud?

I was wondering the same thing, and also; didn't you say you find it suspicious that same person sent you funds from two different wallets, and as a result of that
you contacted them ?
I highly doubt the account is locked due to bitcoin connection, or that it is permanently terminated, but anything's possible i guess.

They would never close an account for just selling bitcoin, google should understand this. I think it might me anything else that we dont know, but the OP yes.

Not clear.

I disagree.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l6s7j/warning_do_not_put_the_word_bitcoin_in_your/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/35cunb/google_wallet_is_now_declining_bitcoin_purchase/

I think that's exactly the reason why.

yeah me too dude. and why google only pay paypal?

Thanks for letting us know this references containing useful information. I don't understand why google would decline bitcoin purchases(on that reference buying bitcoins from Circle)

you can't buy Bitcoins with Paypal, so probably it's the same for Google Wallet. They don't want to take the risk and they're absolutely right

Who said that? where did you read? I see many people buy bitcoin with paypal and sell bitcoin to paypal i dont see anything wrong/illegal here? But is just surprising me that google does not allow buying bitcoin through their wallet.

As in every big corporation, they don't know anything, they will not tell you anything of any use or any real information.
Its nightmare.

Not in the sense that you can't legally buy it, but in the sense that paypal takes a risk by allowing such transactions. the same for Google. Bitcoin need trust and those companies don't trust peoples

Er, NSA shill Google? Drop you for selling Bitcoin? No way....! (sarcasm tone of voice)

Look up with https://www.startpage.com (https://www.startpage.com) or https://www.ixquick.com (https://www.ixquick.com) (NOT Google) "Prism". Google made a search engine for USA law enforcement to use (anybody from the metermaid to the CIA). You just type in anyone's name and then voila! ALL your online, even confidential info, shows up; every email, every webpage you looked up, every facebook page, etc. It uses a very powerful A.I. to link all your identities. Look up "Snowden" for reference.

thats ridiculous i think, cant you do whatever you want with your money if its legal? he did not violate any laws i mean

Finance companies have the right to refuse your business if you're using their platforms.

Well paypal transactions are reversible and maybe that's why they don't allow buying / selling through their platform.

yes

Google sucks so bad I don't even use their search engine. Duckduckgo or GTFO
https://duckduckgo.com/ (https://duckduckgo.com/)

I like duck duck go, too, but https://www.ixquick.com (http://https://www.ixquick.com) will actually let you visit the webpage of the search result with their ip address, kinda like a vpn.

google wallet is just jealous of bitcoin. they just taking the anger out on you.

In order for my account to be reinstated I have to pay $600 and write an appeal.
So, apparently Google thinks I should be held liable for the $600 even though I was the one scammed.

http://imgur.com/a/kMwKo

https://i.imgur.com/PX9AWWsl.png https://i.imgur.com/2jM9tipl.png

But if Google will create its own currency like Bitcoin

Pay $600 for them to do what? Enable a little tick in a box next to your account for you to use it again? This is why I would rather use Yahoo as a search engine and Bitcoin as a payment method.

What will happen if Bitcoin goes mainstream? Would they pay you $600 to come back again to use their service? These centralized services has too much power to push people around. You would never think that

their are a battle between Yahoo / Bing and Google for market share, if you look at the way they are treating their customers.  ???

why its look like you send money then you transfer to your bank account then you cancel..
if im right the $600 is already in your bank account even the money you send is in the other account..
if your the one who own the other account this is more likely you scam google you send and cancel after you transfer..
if your dont own the other account you can send ticket so they can hold the money from the account who send money to you..

google starting to notice bitcoin? they have bitcoin on their radar for quite a long time. i'm sure they won't fight bitcoin, they even added a bitcoin price to their google finance section.

Do people really use google wallet?
I thought that thing is dead :D
Next time try to use Paypal or better, use wire transfer to receive your money :D
Good luck in the future man ;)

The cancelled money transfers were sent to him by others and then cancelled AFAICS.
That being said, it's a lot of cancelled transfers.
OP is there something else you forgot to tell us?

If you violate their Terms of Service they have every right to terminate your account.

looks like you are not from USA because google dont give any shit to people outside usa they closs your account does not matter if its adsense or any other of your service and dont even bother to send you reason and you cant do anything

well google makes what they wanna really ,usa has the biggest campaings as ration... soo others the rest of world cant make such or more money then them soo well i hope you recover your loss,didnt know google has some wallet surprised no one talked about it on the last 6 years im online .

I don't understand why google has to be so unfriendly to Bitcoin or digital currencies... If you look at it... millions of people use google to search and research about Bitcoin and digital currencies. So it's always a win from them...
why can't they get that point!?

It looks to me like for 2 days in a row, someone sent you money, then cancelled the transaction, but not before you quickly withdrew the money from your Google wallet.

So hoppy32347 (seems like a suspicious name to me) still has all their money, you have $600 in your bank account.

Of course Google locked your account! What should they do? Open it up on your word that it won't cost them more money? Their decision has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

This problem will keep happening as long as people keep using money transfer systems with charge-backs (including credit cards, PayPal, and online transfer) to sell Bitcoin, which, as we all know, has no charge-back.

Advice: Keep clean by exchanging Bitcoin on real exchanges (with KYC), or for real cash, not this electronic stuff.

Try Payeer then. They have added BTC to they site also.

Google routinely shuts down accounts at the slightest hint of the possibility of violation of their ToS. Adsense is the worst. Apparently any adsense account making more than 5000 monthly (yes it is possible to make this kind of money with adsense, it just puts you in their crosshairs) gets scuppered without any hope for appeal. go to their forums, there are hundreds of pages of users crying "WHY???" no one even gets an answer from them.

when you consider that google has over a billion users a few accounts getting v& is nothing to them. their thinking is "better safe than sorry" but all that means for us is, the consumer is expendable.

i hate google

When the first payment was sent from the hoppy32347 account it appeared to me as coming from Marlene Hopkins, then they (goes by the pseudonym 'Sea Creature') sent the next payment it came from Raymond Noz. That's when I felt uneasy and asked Google to look into it, next thing I know my account is closed. I never sent any bitcoin for the transaction for $1,047. The $100 and $500 payment had no issues until 2 weeks later. You can't cancel a transaction in Google Wallet after you've sent it. Google stopped the pending transaction and reversed the two that cleared.

I provided the Google reps with everything I know, trying to help them find the guy, yet they go after me.

I'm guessing that the hoppy32347 account was created by a scammer and funded with (a) stolen credit card(s). Then, the owner of the credit card got his bill and disputed it. It was obviously stolen, so the credit card transaction was reversed.

Google probably froze the hoppy32347 account. And your account has a negative balance. What else would you expect them to do?

I don't love google, its good but not the best. I don't understand why people love Google so much too. Yahoo is so much better you have email a 360 page and so many opportunities. If you can't find anything or need help its usually right there for you. I feel Google is nothing but a imitator to yahoo! As per me people loves google because its plain, simple, easy, quick, gets the job done but many sites are providing same services like google, there is nothing new to google.

Google is nice for a lot of things, but it scares me how big they are with such little competition in some areas.

can you show as some of your conversation..
how they buy you bitcoin?
where they buy you bitcoin?

They have gotten huge and I think the scariest part is how much information they have on a typical google user (just chrome and android).  They pretty much know all your interests, people you interact with, where and how you travel, what content you download, etc.  If this type of information ever starts to implicate people, I think there will be a huge surge in demand for browsers, search engines and mobile operating systems that don't track your usage.

i dont think so that any known person or organization will do this because then they will face alot of laws and security threats and alot of more shit that is why satoshi hide himself and remain annonimous

It's clear now, that he just owns Google $ 600 and the whole thing has nothing to do with Bitcoin. It would be the same thing, if he had sold a couch and the buyer had reversed the transaction. Same thing also happens with bank accounts.
There is really nothing Bitcoin related to see here in this thread. Move along.

I have been using google wallet from long time to buy android apps , i even buy credits from third party and pay them in bitcoins , but i never had any such issue.

bitcoin is direct competiotion to google wallet apple pay and other apps of the sort. so they are easily banned...

They do not allow bitcoin for sure. Most of them don't because bitcoin is competitor for all. So do not disclose such information to support.

If Google creates it's own coin then it will try their users to use only that coin, something like manipulate in all their product/services, but it is optional.

they have the monopoly they control all we search that way they pay what they pay to some countries,about those wallet well why to tell someone about what were doing with the money if you say to paypal about exchange they will ban you the same way soo avoid expose yourself more then needed.

True, Google like Paypal are monopolies and like every monopoly they will try to erase the competition, and bitcoin is a hell of a competitor.

yup agreed, google is one of a monopolys company,of course they dont allow bitcoin for purchase their things
,this is a chalenge for the comunity
i wish someday i can buy something on playstore with bitcoin

What I do not understand is why Google monopoly has been allowed to continue, Standard Oil was a very powerful monopoly and still the US Government applied the Sherman Antitrust Act against it.

If you had the monopoly and saw someone enter into the market making a better price you will be scared ,soo to protect your capital they avoid it refuse it,make their promotions ,they control the market if they wanna to hit bitcoin deeply they can create their coin and offer some mining process as bitcoin has,controlling the market,as the price.

Well so far none of these big "Internet monopolies" hasn't been broken down. On the top of that, they even let them grow,  Google has bought YouTube, etc.

But then again, you could argue the same about Facebook. They are also a monopoly of sort. It looks to me me that they are not that interested to touch that much into online corporations. It's either that or these cooperation know very well who to bribe.

http://www.coindesk.com/cftc-grants-temporary-approval-to-bitcoin-startup-ledgerx/


Well, you almost nailed it.

Google is the same as Apple they try to be ahead of new projects,this way they control the markets owning or being part of the new corporations..

I'm not sure that Google will be going against Bitcoin, rather they will try to see how they can use it the most to their advantage.

You shouldn't trust any payment method that is controlled by people like google wallet.  Only trust bitcoin which isn't controlled by anyone.

what? google wallet closed caused bitcoin transaction? that's not very google . not smart enough

I will no longer use any centralized payment handler ever again. I had the same issue with PayPal and now there is no way I am trusting these guys with my money. Bitcoin is new, innovated and open-sourced. I think it's better to take more control of your finances anyway.

Of course, they know very well who to bribe since Google, Facebook, etc know everything about everyone. LOL.

Paypal were good when they  restricted most of the projects online to be legal,i mean hyip those kind of programs you cant run them at paypal.But the thing that they call dispute is insane you sell something and those person use the thing and after 30 days claim for the money and send you back the product used... this is making most people left them.I love bitcoin,since you send payment you cant recover it anymore soo must be sure you wanna those item.

I think almost all of us agree, but that's the problem, we are in an echo chamber. Some things that should have worked out in theory didn't. Example: Communism

LOLz good job for not having any funds left in there~!

I don't owe Google anything, the scammer owes them. They're kidding themselves if they think I'm taking a $600 loss.


I do the same with my PayPal account, empty everything out after each transaction. I know how these companies are.

We need and must trust at something otherwise we will be hiding the money in your own body,those problem is because you abused from them trying to take advantage of google,why to use them if they doesnt allow exchanges.... anyway i hope you learn if you havent the money you should know why you breaked all those rules.

Evertybody love google, because we all have to use google.

It is quite simple because who ever have a lot of money in hand then they can easily try to kill the competition on right time. Right time is very important because once the competition grown then no one can do anything so all these big companies try to remove all those competitors at the beginning itself.

Good point. Everything can fail, even things that seem flawless. Human flaws are so pervasive that you cannot account for all them.

Is it true that Google is Illuminati??? How true it is???

Yes, I have to use gmail and google search engine everyday.

I feel like non-Westerners don't understand sarcasm.

Lol.  :D

We do but if it is in our language :D