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Title: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 10, 2015, 06:03:44 AM Bitshares is going to have ... people stab or murder each other eventually. It will be great for Coindesk news. It's also going to have elements of corporate fascism Hey if Daniel is willing to give up all the collectivism crap... Daniel is inherently socialist. I recently exhanged a few posts with his brother and still the same attitude difference seems to persist between us. HOLY SCHNIKES!!! Bitshares supporters openly admit that Bitshares will lead to stabbings, murder and corporate fascism!!! It's obvious to everyone that the evil Larimer twins, Stanlin and Dan, are raging crypto communists out to redistribute everyones' wealth to their own pockets and will stop at nothing until they have stolen every last satoshi. How many people have to die before these madmen are stopped? Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: onemorexmr on September 10, 2015, 06:09:12 AM ROFL?
Bitshares will die one day because of their strange assets (like BitUSD) which will eventually lead to a complete lost of trust in a black-swan like event. no need to make such doomsday-threads when it will die anyway ;) Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: testz on September 10, 2015, 09:07:24 AM Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: sofu on September 10, 2015, 09:45:26 AM Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: tat123 on September 10, 2015, 11:21:22 AM DE should say he is barking at the elephant in the room... ah too late! Just kidding BTS guys. Congrats on Graphene. Looking forward to using it. BTS 1.0 was an elephant in the room, what will Graphene be? DE... that's your cue dude. And I went with Pol Pot. Just because nobody else picked him. Good luck with your lynching. And one more thing... BitcoinSatan is really BitcoinJesus 2.0 ... so watch out for that dude. He'll trip you up like the Devil himself! Nasty little bugger! All hail Satan just in case! Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: r0ach on September 10, 2015, 01:29:29 PM Is this post for real? He basically fabricated a post by me by deleting 99% of the post and piecing selected words together. The entire post it came from is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12376895#msg12376895 I can't believe he's shilling for NXT while ignoring all the problems presented with it in that thread that make it impossible to function on a global scale, with the possible exception of being a clearing mechanism between banks / SDR notes. This would do nothing to change the system we already have though, and would inevitably be turned to fractional reserve. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: crypto jerk on September 10, 2015, 03:05:07 PM Please add George Bush to the poll. I think he has killed a million
Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 10, 2015, 06:06:15 PM Is this post for real? He basically fabricated a post by me by deleting 99% of the post and piecing selected words together. The entire post it came from is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171109.msg12376895#msg12376895 I can't believe he's shilling for NXT while ignoring all the problems presented with it in that thread that make it impossible to function on a global scale, with the possible exception of being a clearing mechanism between banks / SDR notes. This would do nothing to change the system we already have though, and would inevitably be turned to fractional reserve. I fabricated nothing. Everyone go read the original post. These corporate fascists / communists are a bunch of liars. Your statement that NXT's PoS is "impossible to function on a global scale" is another red lie. All the DPoS commies want to do is centralize everything and control everyone. Don't let them get their dirty, red claws on your blockchain. DPoS is not decentralized. Here is why: For all those interested in how a few of the wealthiest Bitshares' stakeholders can effectively rig the mass majority of the elections, here is how. It doesn't matter if you collect delegates' SSNs, driver's licenses, birth certificates and thumbprints, Bitshares' DPoS mechanism will always be susceptible to manipulation. You have introduced a "social construct" (aka voting) which turns Bitshares' delegates into a "government of the wealthy". No one will ever know what type of "behind-the-scenes" politics is going on which results in which delegates are selected. Because you have instituted this ridiculous charade into chain security, all your figures on "decentralization" and "speed of decentralization" are speculative and assume that all 101 delegates are unique, non-colluding individuals. The fact is all these delegates are not going to compete against each other for a position. Who will become a delegate and control the delegate selection process are the wealthiest stakeholders. This will be accomplished in a quid pro quo manner. This means that really Bitshares is less decentralized than NXT because they will be able to form political/business coalitions which imo will result in them dominating the delegate selection process. The wealthiest stakeholders in Bitshares can do this very easily because it is an "Approval Voting" process. This allows stakeholders to put the entire weight of their stake behind each and every delegate they approve. The Bitshares' devs will deny this to the very end because they are part of this "ruling elite". I think I could make a pretty good argument that delegates' "real world" identities being known by the community doesn't really matter or prevent a "Sybil attack". Imo, what would constitute a "Sybil attack" is the collusion of delegates' motives. I'm also pretty positive that the colluding delegates wouldn't "harm" the Bitshares' ecosystem, but instead use their power to manipulate delegate elections to capitalize on the delegate positions. Everybody can know everyones' name, but it's impossible to know their true intentions. Any block chain has the problem that a few big players can collude, whether they are large stakeholders or large hashpoolers. We dilute that down to under one percent influence per delegate, max. Then there's the question of what they can collude about. We can all observe whether they are performing their very limited block signing job to spec or not. We can look at their published price feeds. They have no other power. That's true that in all blockchains stakeholders/hashpower can collude, but they can only collude in a one-to-one proportion to their stake/hash. Since approval voting is used in delegate elections, I maintain that large stakeholders can effectively collude to a multiple proportion of their stake. Whereby, for example, 20% of colluding stake can disproportionately influence the elections of more than 20% of the delegates. This leads to a coalition of a few wealthy stakeholders being able to determine the outcomes of the mass majority of the delegate elections. This is especially true considering that voter turnout of smaller stakeholders will be lower than the voter turnout of larger stakeholders. As I said previously, it would be the intention of the colluding wealthy stakeholders to not harm Bitshares, but to elect delegates from which they would derive monetary gain in excess to their proportion of stake in the system at the expense of all other stakeholders. Let's give an example. Remember, in "approval voting", voters do not just vote for one delegate. They can select as many or as few delegates as they wish and the entire weight of their stake counts towards each delegate they choose. Say for instance that the top delegate has 50% of the vote and the 101st delegate has 30% of the vote. The voting spread percentage is 20% (50%-30%). If the votes per delegate is a linear increase according to delegate rank, an additional 10% of the stake vote will move the 101st delegate to the 50th position. Likewise, a removal of 10% of the stake vote from the lower 50 delegates will result in them losing their delegate position. By strategically voting, a few wealthy stakeholders can influence a disproportionate number of delegate positions in relation to their actual stake. In this example, a coalition of 10% stake was able to control 50% of the delegates. Does this sound fair to you?! Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: StanLarimer on September 10, 2015, 06:49:52 PM Thanks for helping to call more attention to BitShares 2.0 ! You can read how the new DPOS 2.0 features actually work here... Delegated Proof of Stake Consensus (https://bitshares.org/technology/delegated-proof-of-stake-consensus/) :) Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 10, 2015, 08:51:47 PM Thanks for helping to call more attention to BitShares 2.0 ! You can read how the new DPOS 2.0 features actually work here... Delegated Proof of Stake Consensus (https://bitshares.org/technology/delegated-proof-of-stake-consensus/) :) You're welcome! I'm pleased to do anything that exposes your wealth redistribution schemes and attempts to establish complete communist hegemony over the blockchain. Feel free to post here Chairman Stanlin because unlike you, I support freedom of speech and don't moderate any of my threads. I don't fear the truth and I don't have anything to hide. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Bisha on September 10, 2015, 09:26:19 PM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect
Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 11, 2015, 04:28:33 AM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect It seems Chairman Stanlin and his comrades don't know about the Streisand effect. What do they expect when they moderate all of their threads and actively attempt to hide the truth from the public? They are the censors not me. Quote "The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: puppies on September 11, 2015, 07:19:17 AM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect DE doesn't know what words like communist and fascist mean. Or at least is incapable of using them properly. I'm not sure if we should blame public education, the main stream media, alternate media, his parents. I have tried to communicate with him, and I have come to the conclusion that he is in no way interested in communication. He is the type of person that would talk about free speech if he was told to shush in a movie theater. He might honestly believe that he was being censored. I'm not sure you can reason with a person like that. I would take him more seriously if he was able to 1) articulate an intelligent point, rather than spout large words he obviously doesn't understand. 2) Show a modicum of respect for private property, and the slightest manners. While I would hope the above is apparent to all, I fear that the mindless hostility exemplified by DE, the media, and politicians from the right and the left is so prevalent because it works. I fear for a society that allows such vitriol to be taken as serious arguments. I fear for the minds that are swayed by such. Now I am getting off topic. If you are interested in learning the truth about bitshares and the motivation of the people behind it I would suggest you head on over to bitsharestalk.org or post in one of the many threads in this forum. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0) Is one of my personal favorites as its the thread that did the most to attract me to the bitshares community in the first place. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 11, 2015, 08:35:49 AM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect DE doesn't know what words like communist and fascist mean. Or at least is incapable of using them properly. I'm not sure if we should blame public education, the main stream media, alternate media, his parents. I have tried to communicate with him, and I have come to the conclusion that he is in no way interested in communication. He is the type of person that would talk about free speech if he was told to shush in a movie theater. He might honestly believe that he was being censored. I'm not sure you can reason with a person like that. I would take him more seriously if he was able to 1) articulate an intelligent point, rather than spout large words he obviously doesn't understand. 2) Show a modicum of respect for private property, and the slightest manners. While I would hope the above is apparent to all, I fear that the mindless hostility exemplified by DE, the media, and politicians from the right and the left is so prevalent because it works. I fear for a society that allows such vitriol to be taken as serious arguments. I fear for the minds that are swayed by such. Now I am getting off topic. If you are interested in learning the truth about bitshares and the motivation of the people behind it I would suggest you head on over to bitsharestalk.org or post in one of the many threads in this forum. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0) Is one of my personal favorites as its the thread that did the most to attract me to the bitshares community in the first place. We should all blame public education, the mainstream media, alternate media and your parents that you are too uneducated to realize that there is no difference between corporate fascism and communism. For each is control of the state by corporations, the former via state capitalism and the latter via state socialism. Both resulting in a state monopoly which destroys the middle class and leads to an ever expanding disparity between the rich and the poor. I respect private property. You Bitshares Communists are the ones which implemented a system which allows Chairman Stanlin to seize money out of peoples' accounts and redistribute it to his own wallet. You're all a bunch of liars, cheaters and thieves. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 11, 2015, 07:01:17 PM DE b muh BTS bump bitch Perfect example of the degenerate communists involved in Bitshares. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: puppies on September 11, 2015, 10:43:22 PM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect DE doesn't know what words like communist and fascist mean. Or at least is incapable of using them properly. I'm not sure if we should blame public education, the main stream media, alternate media, his parents. I have tried to communicate with him, and I have come to the conclusion that he is in no way interested in communication. He is the type of person that would talk about free speech if he was told to shush in a movie theater. He might honestly believe that he was being censored. I'm not sure you can reason with a person like that. I would take him more seriously if he was able to 1) articulate an intelligent point, rather than spout large words he obviously doesn't understand. 2) Show a modicum of respect for private property, and the slightest manners. While I would hope the above is apparent to all, I fear that the mindless hostility exemplified by DE, the media, and politicians from the right and the left is so prevalent because it works. I fear for a society that allows such vitriol to be taken as serious arguments. I fear for the minds that are swayed by such. Now I am getting off topic. If you are interested in learning the truth about bitshares and the motivation of the people behind it I would suggest you head on over to bitsharestalk.org or post in one of the many threads in this forum. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0) Is one of my personal favorites as its the thread that did the most to attract me to the bitshares community in the first place. We should all blame public education, the mainstream media, alternate media and your parents that you are too uneducated to realize that there is no difference between corporate fascism and communism. For each is control of the state by corporations, the former via state capitalism and the latter via state socialism. Both resulting in a state monopoly which destroys the middle class and leads to an ever expanding disparity between the rich and the poor. I respect private property. You Bitshares Communists are the ones which implemented a system which allows Chairman Stanlin to seize money out of peoples' accounts and redistribute it to his own wallet. You're all a bunch of liars, cheaters and thieves. Words have meaning. When you use two different words that have distinct meanings and claim there is no difference between them you just show your ignorance. While I would agree with the sentiment that both corporate fascism and communism are evil, they are most certainly not the same. You continue to show that you clearly do not understand what you are talking about. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 12, 2015, 06:46:22 AM DE doesn't know Streisand Effect DE doesn't know what words like communist and fascist mean. Or at least is incapable of using them properly. I'm not sure if we should blame public education, the main stream media, alternate media, his parents. I have tried to communicate with him, and I have come to the conclusion that he is in no way interested in communication. He is the type of person that would talk about free speech if he was told to shush in a movie theater. He might honestly believe that he was being censored. I'm not sure you can reason with a person like that. I would take him more seriously if he was able to 1) articulate an intelligent point, rather than spout large words he obviously doesn't understand. 2) Show a modicum of respect for private property, and the slightest manners. While I would hope the above is apparent to all, I fear that the mindless hostility exemplified by DE, the media, and politicians from the right and the left is so prevalent because it works. I fear for a society that allows such vitriol to be taken as serious arguments. I fear for the minds that are swayed by such. Now I am getting off topic. If you are interested in learning the truth about bitshares and the motivation of the people behind it I would suggest you head on over to bitsharestalk.org or post in one of the many threads in this forum. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2853.0) Is one of my personal favorites as its the thread that did the most to attract me to the bitshares community in the first place. We should all blame public education, the mainstream media, alternate media and your parents that you are too uneducated to realize that there is no difference between corporate fascism and communism. For each is control of the state by corporations, the former via state capitalism and the latter via state socialism. Both resulting in a state monopoly which destroys the middle class and leads to an ever expanding disparity between the rich and the poor. I respect private property. You Bitshares Communists are the ones which implemented a system which allows Chairman Stanlin to seize money out of peoples' accounts and redistribute it to his own wallet. You're all a bunch of liars, cheaters and thieves. Words have meaning. When you use two different words that have distinct meanings and claim there is no difference between them you just show your ignorance. While I would agree with the sentiment that both corporate fascism and communism are evil, they are most certainly not the same. You continue to show that you clearly do not understand what you are talking about. You obviously buy hook, line and sinker the very superficial and cursory definitions provided to the masses regarding the terms "corporate fascism" and "communism" without actually deducing for yourself the result of both systems which is the merger of both state and capitalist bureaucracy. As it has been said of the communist revolution: "It is only the old feudal large landed property which exists no longer. Conditions in Russia were ripe for its abolition but they were not ripe for the abolition of capitalism. Capitalism is now once again celebrating a resurrection, but in forms that are more oppressive and harrowing for the proletariat than of old. Instead of assuming higher industrialised forms, private capitalism has assumed the most wretched and shabby forms of black marketeering and money speculation. Industrial capitalism has developed to become state capitalism. Formerly state officials and officials from private capital were critical, often very hostile towards each other. Consequently the working man found that his advantage lay with one or the other in turn. Today the state bureaucracy and capitalist bureaucracy are merged into one—that is the upshot of the great socialist revolution brought about by the Bolsheviks. It constitutes the most oppressive of all despotisms that Russia has ever had to suffer." So, now you see that there is no difference between corporations controlling the state, "corporate fascism", or the state controlling corporations, "communism". They are but one and the same only differentiated by the means to the same end. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you and anyone else that believes the two systems are different, but you've been duped. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: BitcoinNational on September 13, 2015, 02:57:33 AM bts may have a elephants ton of $Cap but as pts holder ... i have know clue as to what's up with several of the products bought and paid for but NEVER seen ... that's vaporware level fail. now throw in the fact that the pegged currency play (although a smart sector to target) seems to be a miss ... nu and tether are eating that lunch. add nill assets on the platform ... CP and NXT are eating that lunch. the only measure-able asset is daily volume. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: StanLarimer on September 13, 2015, 03:35:00 AM Then you started paying attention at exactly the right time! :) Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Pheonike on September 13, 2015, 11:03:22 AM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world!
Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 16, 2015, 08:34:31 AM Thank you Chairman Stanlin for posting this definitive blacklist of all the Communists involved in Bitshares who are trying their best to destroy the dream of decentralized crypto.
Before we get a flood of new users with 2.0 and transition to future success, I just want to give a huge thank you to every single person in this community who has stuck it out through the hard times. I don’t have my own brownie asset to get you sharedrops, but if I did I would give them to all of you… To Bytemaster, the genius who conceived of this great work, Bitshares, his Magnum Opus which will transform the world! To every developer who worked so hard on this project, and contributed to Bitshares 2.0, the amazing Graphene codebase, and all our earlier experiments: Toast, Vikram, Valzav, Nathan, jcalfee, svk, theoretical, as well as others who have worked on bitshares code part time, like Chronos, KenCode, jsidhu, and many more. And of course Bytemaster again. Without your hard work, Bitshares would still be a glimmer in our minds. To every technical guru who has ran witnesses and supported the Bitshares network, and supported its users with technical help over the years: Xeroc, Riverhead, Liondani, testz, Xeldal, clayop, and many many more (I know there are so many more!) Xeroc, your 8700+ posts of tireless tech help to so many of us technical noobs just blows my mind! I don’t even know all of you, but the Bitshares network could not exist without you. Also, a huge thank you to those above and everyone who helped with the Bitshares 2.0 testnet! I wish I had the skills you guys have! To all our business partners, who are either using the Bitshares blockchain for your companies, or supporting the community by using Graphene, you are the lifeblood that will fuel Bitshares in the coming months and years, you are the beginning of the wave of profitable companies to be built upon the Bitshares platform. May we all become profitable together and share in the wealth: MarkLyford (Banx), John Underwood (Identabit), Adam Earnest (Follow my vote), Cedric Cobban (Muse), Hack Fisher (Play), DataSecurityNode (Bunkermining), Ronny (CCEDK), Shentist & Monsterer (Metaexchange), Rune & Toast (Maker coin), and more! To all our marketers, official or unofficial, for all our attempts to ignite the spark of interest in Bitshares: To Max, for his amazing Bitshares videos and Bitshares 101 book, and even more importantly, for coming up with the referral system which will propel Bitshares to new heights in the coming years! To Murderistic for his work on business contacts which are yielding us partnerships. To MethodX, Rgcrypto, CryptoPrometheus, Matt608, elmato, and so many others, leading community efforts to get the word out about bitshares, creating community newsletters, etc. To Cass, for his work on the website, graphic design, newsletters, and so much more. To Stan, for preparing all these Bitshares announcements, and for battling the trolls on the bitcointalk threads. And for helping manage the great team that you and Dan created. To KenCode for his translation work, turning Bitshares videos and press into many languages, and the creation of Bitshares Munich. To 38PTSWarrior, for being out on the streets promoting Bitshares all the time. May the BTS price eventually rise so much that you will live the good life! To the Chinese marketing team, I don’t really know who you are, but your work is appreciated! You were much more successful than the western teams early on. To roadscape for your upcoming video of the Bitshares road trip, I cant wait! To DataSecurityNode again for minebitshares, our sneaky marketing effort that creates sell pressure on PoW coins and buys BTS. To everyone working on webwallets and other support tools for Bitshares: The moonstone team, the limewallet team, digitalgaia, svk for bitsharesblocks, jsidhu for cart plugins, and more! May your efforts pay off soon with the coming referral system in 2.0! To everyone working on community building efforts. You have helped make everything possible by bringing us together: To Fuzzy for his work on the Beyondbitcoin podcast! We all look forward to coming together for an hour each week to talk about the project. To Bitsapphire for the Bitsharestalk forums, I don’t know how I could survive without them. To Fav for his work as forum moderator. To alt, and btswildpig ripplexiaoshan, and the others who support the Chinese community! To so many excellent forum contributors who have provided insights throughout the months: To Arhag, your post on technical cryptography subjects are so far above my head, but so helpful to keep us on the right course. Your ideas always amaze me. To Starspirit, for insightful ideas about market pegged assets, the economics of our system, and more. To TuckFheman, for making the forum so much fun. And the many others who participate in our random discussions as well, like CLains with his motivation Mondays, BuckFankers, ErlichBachman, etc. To Empirical and jsidhu, and many many others, for intelligent trading thoughts. Jsidhu, our .45 CNY is coming! And to whoever out there came up with 500 knives, may it come true in the future as well. ;) To OldMan for your always optimistic long term price targets and your hodling! I shall hodl many Bitshares with you, for many years! To KenCode and Permie for joining the community and becoming regulars in a time (~Feb-May or so) when things looked darkest, and many of us had given up or were struggling to hold on. To Tonyk for coming back right at the bottom! Wow, your timing was amazing. To donkeypong for always being positive and believing in Bitshares in dark times. To Rune for your desire to take over bitcoin, that was fun, even if it scared me. I know you left us for Ethereum, but I’m glad you're sort of back here with Makercoin! To R0ach, you just appeared in our community, but your posts about the state of crypto are so insightful and well written! Where have you been all this time! To countless forum regulars that I haven't mentioned yet: Luckybit, mf-tzo, delulo, gamey, alt, onceuponatime, emski, puppies, Akado, speedy, eageleye, Thom, nomoreheroes, lil_jay, hpenvy, and dozens more. I wish I could write pages about the contributions of every one of you! Even newmine, thank you newmine, every community needs the person they love to hate. ;) I know that I have managed to leave off dozens of people from this list that I am going to be ashamed to have left off! I am sorry, our community is so large, it is impossible to give the credit to everyone that they deserve! The coming months will be our time, and we will all be proud to say that we were here, that we were the early adopters, the builders of this great project! We were here in 2013-2015, before the world heard of Bitshares!! Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: testz on September 16, 2015, 10:10:45 AM Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: crypto jerk on September 16, 2015, 04:01:12 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1181883.msg12436049#msg12436049
Bitshares partners with scammers banx? Birds of a feather. https://earthenergyreader.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/elephant-n-mouse.jpg Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 16, 2015, 11:00:27 PM Bitshares partners with scammers banx? is like saying bitcoin partners with MtGox....this is crypto...try to keep up... banx is paying BTS holders to ride the world's fastest blockchain....... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/09/16/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-set-to-unveil-groundbreaking-crypto-platform-at-global-money-summit/ You're all a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving Commies. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Bisha on September 17, 2015, 11:28:09 AM Bitshares partners with scammers banx? is like saying bitcoin partners with MtGox....this is crypto...try to keep up... banx is paying BTS holders to ride the world's fastest blockchain....... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/09/16/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-set-to-unveil-groundbreaking-crypto-platform-at-global-money-summit/ You're all a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving Commies. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 17, 2015, 07:46:10 PM Bitshares partners with scammers banx? is like saying bitcoin partners with MtGox....this is crypto...try to keep up... banx is paying BTS holders to ride the world's fastest blockchain....... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/09/16/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-set-to-unveil-groundbreaking-crypto-platform-at-global-money-summit/ You're all a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving Commies. Give me a break. If I had to sit here and list all the examples supporting my statement, I'd be here all week. Part of their scam is that they've perpetrated so many, so quickly, it's near impossible to remember all of them. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 18, 2015, 06:00:26 AM The lack of counter arguments is real. If anyone had any doubt you were a troll, they don't have any, now. Give me a break. If I had to sit here and list all the examples supporting my statement, I'd be here all week. it's near impossible to remember all of them. yea ED, the true fact regarding this thread is that the BTS share price has risen like 40% since you posted it here let me help u post that link: there. all better https://bter.com/trade/bts_btc Yeah, tell everybody to go trade at BTER. I'm sure they're legit now. They've only run off with everybody's money twice so far, right? I know though that in your mind the only thing that matters is pumping BTS not protecting people from scammers. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Scamlarimer on September 18, 2015, 06:04:33 AM Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 18, 2015, 11:02:36 PM go trade at BTER. no silly, this is Bitcoin2.O remember? external exchanges are now called "gateways"... all trading is done on the smartchain on your personal computer P2P.. no more middleman.. no need to leave your coins on any third party exchange ever again... u crack me up Ed, with all that Crypto terminology circa 2013...never stop DE..please.. "oh no! it's MtGox!!! run for your lives!! ahhh!!!" .. . lol hilarious... oh oh .. remember this classic: "bitcoin is anonymous!"... lol ! time to get Back to the Future funny guy Marty McFly.... Back to 2015 Regardless of if you're simply using them as a "gateway", why would you recommend people do business with known scammers? But I guess if you have no qualms with associating yourself with liars, cheaters, thieves that isn't an issue is it? It's all a matter of what you're willing to do for a profit. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Bisha on September 19, 2015, 12:57:04 AM Bitshares partners with scammers banx? is like saying bitcoin partners with MtGox....this is crypto...try to keep up... banx is paying BTS holders to ride the world's fastest blockchain....... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/09/16/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-set-to-unveil-groundbreaking-crypto-platform-at-global-money-summit/ You're all a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving Commies. Give me a break. If I had to sit here and list all the examples supporting my statement, I'd be here all week. Part of their scam is that they've perpetrated so many, so quickly, it's near impossible to remember all of them. No, the point is you're completely wrong. BANX will use BitShares therefore if BANX is a scam, BitShares is a scam, that was your argument. However that's the same as Bitcoin being a scam because Gox was a scam. The fact third party services might be scams, doesn't mean or prove the underling protocol they're using is a scam. One thing has nothing to do with the other. You're just trying to create this negative aura around BitShares with flawed arguments. Multiple companies use Protocol X. However Company A is a scam Does that make Protocol X and all other companies a scam? No. That's what you're saying. It's plain nonsense. Just stop please, you're embarrassing yourself. You're just trying too much and with that example, you failed miserably. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 19, 2015, 04:29:00 AM Bitshares partners with scammers banx? is like saying bitcoin partners with MtGox....this is crypto...try to keep up... banx is paying BTS holders to ride the world's fastest blockchain....... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/09/16/bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-set-to-unveil-groundbreaking-crypto-platform-at-global-money-summit/ You're all a bunch of lying, cheating, thieving Commies. Give me a break. If I had to sit here and list all the examples supporting my statement, I'd be here all week. Part of their scam is that they've perpetrated so many, so quickly, it's near impossible to remember all of them. No, the point is you're completely wrong. BANX will use BitShares therefore if BANX is a scam, BitShares is a scam, that was your argument. However that's the same as Bitcoin being a scam because Gox was a scam. The fact third party services might be scams, doesn't mean or prove the underling protocol they're using is a scam. One thing has nothing to do with the other. You're just trying to create this negative aura around BitShares with flawed arguments. Multiple companies use Protocol X. However Company A is a scam Does that make Protocol X and all other companies a scam? No. That's what you're saying. It's plain nonsense. Just stop please, you're embarrassing yourself. You're just trying too much and with that example, you failed miserably. Here's the post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097350.0) Chairman Stan Larimer made about Banxshares joining the Bitshares network. Banx Capital (http://banxcapital.com/) announced today that it would be joining the BitShares Exchange Network when version 2.0 is released later this summer. Since the end of 2013, Banx has been launching a portfolio of cryptocurrency businesses including a crypto currency exchange, mining company, trading company, physical coin company and a half dozen other enterprises intended to span the industry. BANX.io is an innovative exchange that specializes in trading the shares of other startup businesses, including its own shares. By moving onto the BitShares Exchange Network BANX.io instantly gains access to other members' products and services such as the fiat on/off ramps and globally welcomed Nanocard provided by CCEDK and Bit-X. Its customers can trade with the combined customers and assets brought to the network by all other member exchanges. And, thanks to the BitShares referral program, BANX.io still collects its share of the network-wide transaction fees paid by every customer it brings to the table. Welcome aboard Banx! So, here we have Chairman Stan Larimer advocating the scam Banx as an "innovative" addition to the Bitshares network. Now, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Banx is a blatant centralized scam, but guess if seizing peoples' funds right out of their accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108890.msg11791913#msg11791913) is "ok", you probably don't have an issue with advocating a centralized scam like Banx. Not to mention that Banx is run by that worthless filth peddler known as Mark Lyford (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1181883.msg12442834#msg12442834). What type of respectable individual would associate themselves with that degenerate trash? If that's acceptable behavior to Stan, Dan and the Bitshares team, what do you think they are doing? Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world! DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 19, 2015, 05:33:16 AM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world! DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Yeah, you caught me... I'm absolutely terrified of Bitsnares and their little schemes. The only thing Bitsnares is going to take over is balances of morons' wallets and leave them broke. Unlike Bitshares CEO/President Stan Larimer there is no CEO/President of NXT that goes around promoting scams run by perverts. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: bl234st on September 19, 2015, 07:14:02 AM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world! DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Yeah, you caught me... I'm absolutely terrified of Bitsnares and their little schemes. The only thing Bitsnares is going to take over is balances of morons' wallets and leave them broke. Unlike Bitshares CEO/President Stan Larimer there is no CEO/President of NXT that goes around promoting scams run by perverts. Yeah, I went with the corporate mouth piece option DE, as opposed to a bunch of barking poodles. Why do small dogs bark? http://thatlittledog.com/why-do-small-dogs-bark-so-much.htm -Leader of the Pack? You always like to tell people NXT is the best, and there is no other option. -Loneliness and Boredom? You are bored because NXT has 4x less volume than LEOcoin? WTF is LEOcoin anyways? -Fear? Of course not. NXT is the best! Unfortunately the market doesn't agree. Idiots... right? At the end of the article it says you are supposed to shout "ENOUGH" at the little dog when it barks. :P Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: EvilDave on September 19, 2015, 08:44:48 AM DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Think it's more of a case of DE really, really, really not liking BTS for a zillion reasons. You don't see Counterparty, Omni, Ethereum, Horizon, etc getting the full-on DE treatment, do you ? Check his post history for some serious entertainment.... IMHO: BTS isn't a threat to Nxt, it's much more of a threat to BTS investors. Repeating this: Quote It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Nxt also has far more asset-based projects than BTS, so there's going to be more dodgy projects among them.The Nxt community has rooted out most of the scammers on the AE, and we have a shedload of legitimate projects running, using blockchain technology that has been stable and secure for almost 2 years now..... ;D Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: EvilDave on September 19, 2015, 02:02:21 PM Misquoting me, BTS, just makes me point out your failings even harder:
My original post: Nxt also has far more asset-based projects than BTS, so there's going to be more dodgy projects among them. The Nxt community has rooted out most of the scammers on the AE, and we have a shedload of legitimate projects running, using blockchain technology that has been stable and secure for almost 2 years now..... ;D becomes: The Nxt community has been stable and secure for almost 2 years now..... ;D BTS would obviously like to me draw attention to the fact that Bitshares 2.0 will be based on a completely unproven system: anyone basing their business on BTS 2.0 will not be building on a mature system, unlike the lucky/smart projects basing themselves on Nxt. ;D Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 19, 2015, 08:21:17 PM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world! DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Yeah, you caught me... I'm absolutely terrified of Bitsnares and their little schemes. The only thing Bitsnares is going to take over is balances of morons' wallets and leave them broke. Unlike Bitshares CEO/President Stan Larimer there is no CEO/President of NXT that goes around promoting scams run by perverts. I don't even read bitcointalk very often but you are still here with same nonsensical babbling. Why is that ? If you were worried about people investing then many more approaches would be more effective. I used to despise NXT but I have an investment in it. I'd still go with Bitshares over NXT. BTS pivoted their product after learning from their mistakes. Bitshares is in the same area of crypto-currency world as NXT but doing it better. If you really are a NXT guy it only makes sense why you constantly FUD up Bitshares with your nonsensical babbling. Being the flag-bearer of NXT is doing them wonders. I always liked their product but hated a few people in their community. There is an active developer community still working fulltime on Bitshares, learning and improving. Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 19, 2015, 08:25:15 PM I come to realize that DE is the strongest believer in Bitshares success. Even with the flaws he perceives that it has, he truly believes that Bitshares will take over the world. He has spent months in this forum letting everyone know how powerful DPOS and Bitshares are. Even with these perceived flaws he believes Bitshares will be more influential than Bitcoin/NXT and all other cryptos. I can't help but admire that confidence and dedication. I have been with Bitshares since the PTS and I thought it could only go to the moon. No one has worked harder to let everyone know Bitshares will go beyond the moon and leave the solar system or even the Galaxy! So I just want to say keep up the great work of letting everyone know just how powerful the Bitshares concept is so it can take over the world! DE is obviously very very VERY threatened by Bitshares. You have a point. Whether mentally ill basement dwelling weirdo or guy with his finger on the pulse of crypto .... DE is very very threatened. It is agreed though that Banxshares is a scam. Banxshares chose Bitshares instead of NXT. NXT has far more of these types of asset scams. Yeah, you caught me... I'm absolutely terrified of Bitsnares and their little schemes. The only thing Bitsnares is going to take over is balances of morons' wallets and leave them broke. Unlike Bitshares CEO/President Stan Larimer there is no CEO/President of NXT that goes around promoting scams run by perverts. BTW I haven't been reading bitcointalk for ages. I show up. DE still obsessing over BTS. I poke the weirdo with a stick and he replies within 15 minutes. THAT is a dedicated FUDster. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 20, 2015, 04:21:47 AM Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Because it's the longest running scam in the history of crypto and goes against everything that crypto represents. I certainly welcome all the supporters of Bitshares to post in this thread and point out where they believe I'm wrong. I can back up all my statements with quotes and proof and enjoy a good debate on the matter. The fact is that I leave ALL my threads open and unmoderated because I believe in freedom of speech and don't feel "threatened" one bit. On the other hand, Chairman Stanlin Larimer despises freedom of speech because he knows the truth will lower the amount of innocent victims he can con into handing over their money and therefore, he moderates ALL his threads. He is the one who feels "horribly threatened". Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: testz on September 20, 2015, 08:57:17 AM Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Because it's the longest running scam in the history of crypto and goes against everything that crypto represents. I certainly welcome all the supporters of Bitshares to post in this thread and point out where they believe I'm wrong. I can back up all my statements with quotes and proof and enjoy a good debate on the matter. The fact is that I leave ALL my threads open and unmoderated because I believe in freedom of speech and don't feel "threatened" one bit. On the other hand, Chairman Stanlin Larimer despises freedom of speech because he knows the truth will lower the amount of innocent victims he can con into handing over their money and therefore, he moderates ALL his threads. He is the one who feels "horribly threatened". How you make "Corporate Fascists/Communists" equal "longest running scam in the history of crypto"? You make this thread complete unreadable, you start from one topic them move to another. If you want peoples to understand you, make your statement clear if no - continue to spread your bla bla bla. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 20, 2015, 09:09:08 AM Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Because it's the longest running scam in the history of crypto and goes against everything that crypto represents. I certainly welcome all the supporters of Bitshares to post in this thread and point out where they believe I'm wrong. I can back up all my statements with quotes and proof and enjoy a good debate on the matter. The fact is that I leave ALL my threads open and unmoderated because I believe in freedom of speech and don't feel "threatened" one bit. On the other hand, Chairman Stanlin Larimer despises freedom of speech because he knows the truth will lower the amount of innocent victims he can con into handing over their money and therefore, he moderates ALL his threads. He is the one who feels "horribly threatened". How you make "Corporate Fascists/Communists" equal "longest running scam in the history of crypto"? You make this thread complete unreadable, you start from one topic them move to another. If you want peoples to understand you, make your statement clear if no - continue to spread your bla bla bla. Are you saying that "the longest scam in history" can't be run by "Corporate Fascists/Communists"? Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: testz on September 20, 2015, 09:12:05 AM Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Because it's the longest running scam in the history of crypto and goes against everything that crypto represents. I certainly welcome all the supporters of Bitshares to post in this thread and point out where they believe I'm wrong. I can back up all my statements with quotes and proof and enjoy a good debate on the matter. The fact is that I leave ALL my threads open and unmoderated because I believe in freedom of speech and don't feel "threatened" one bit. On the other hand, Chairman Stanlin Larimer despises freedom of speech because he knows the truth will lower the amount of innocent victims he can con into handing over their money and therefore, he moderates ALL his threads. He is the one who feels "horribly threatened". How you make "Corporate Fascists/Communists" equal "longest running scam in the history of crypto"? You make this thread complete unreadable, you start from one topic them move to another. If you want peoples to understand you, make your statement clear if no - continue to spread your bla bla bla. Are you saying that "the longest scam in history" can't be run by "Corporate Fascists/Communists"? If it's "the longest scam in history" it's doesn't matter how it's runs. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 20, 2015, 09:17:07 AM Are you saying that "the longest scam in history" can't be run by "Corporate Fascists/Communists"? If it's "the longest scam in history" it's doesn't matter how it's runs. http://s16.postimg.org/t0e1mgd4l/Wat.jpg Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 20, 2015, 09:19:39 AM Not sure why you are so set about it being a scam... unless........ you are horribly threatened ;) Because it's the longest running scam in the history of crypto and goes against everything that crypto represents. I certainly welcome all the supporters of Bitshares to post in this thread and point out where they believe I'm wrong. I can back up all my statements with quotes and proof and enjoy a good debate on the matter. The fact is that I leave ALL my threads open and unmoderated because I believe in freedom of speech and don't feel "threatened" one bit. On the other hand, Chairman Stanlin Larimer despises freedom of speech because he knows the truth will lower the amount of innocent victims he can con into handing over their money and therefore, he moderates ALL his threads. He is the one who feels "horribly threatened". Lets start with this thread. Why do you think Bitshares will kill a minimum of 2 million people? "Goes against everything crypto represents" - Explain to us what "crypto represents". It is an area of math/technology that doesn't really represent anything. How are they communists again? I would moderate my thread too. Do you blame Stan? Look at this thread. You are saying you are a legitimate person. Yet this whole thread is over your belief that Bitshares will kill 2 million people MINIMUM. I don't know even know where to start.... "Longest running scam" ... get some help. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 20, 2015, 09:36:42 AM Lets start with this thread. Why do you think Bitshares will kill a minimum of 2 million people? Mass Killings Under Communist Regimes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes) History doesn't lie. "Goes against everything crypto represents" - Explain to us what "crypto represents". It is an area of math/technology that doesn't really represent anything. You're wrong. It represents this: "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block) How are they communists again? Communist Bitshares Wealth Redistribution IS THEFT! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916696.0) https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html) Quote I may also seize brownie points from any account if you fall out of favor and anyone who complains in any way about how Brownie Points are issued or how I use Brownie Points is certainly not in my favor and may lose any Brownie Points they have earned. -Bytemaster, Dan Larimer I would moderate my thread too. That's because you're a Communist/Corporate Fascist too. Do you blame Stan? Look at this thread. You are saying you are a legitimate person. Yet this whole thread is over your belief that Bitshares will kill 2 million people MINIMUM. I don't know even know where to start.... Yes, I blame Chairman Stanlin for destroying the original intent of crypto with his schemes. "Longest running scam" ... get some help. I'm not the only one that believes this. In the beginning it was all about open source and the social consensus, at least that was what they promoted. Then they made money via Protoshares, Bitcoin donations and Bitshares and now it comes to light that all this was to develop their own proprietary software. Bitshares has to be longest on-going scam in the cryptocurrency realm. While this is without a doubt unethical and of dubious legal nature, I say this is outright fraud. Greed really brings out the most disgusting side in people. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 20, 2015, 09:50:38 AM Lets start with this thread. Why do you think Bitshares will kill a minimum of 2 million people? Mass Killings Under Communist Regimes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes) History doesn't lie. "Goes against everything crypto represents" - Explain to us what "crypto represents". It is an area of math/technology that doesn't really represent anything. You're wrong. It represents this: "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block) How are they communists again? Communist Bitshares Wealth Redistribution IS THEFT! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916696.0) https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html) Quote I may also seize brownie points from any account if you fall out of favor and anyone who complains in any way about how Brownie Points are issued or how I use Brownie Points is certainly not in my favor and may lose any Brownie Points they have earned. -Bytemaster, Dan Larimer I would moderate my thread too. That's because you're a Communist/Corporate Fascist too. Do you blame Stan? Look at this thread. You are saying you are a legitimate person. Yet this whole thread is over your belief that Bitshares will kill 2 million people MINIMUM. I don't know even know where to start.... Yes, I blame Chairman Stanlin for destroying the original intent of crypto with his schemes. "Longest running scam" ... get some help. I'm not the only one that believes this. In the beginning it was all about open source and the social consensus, at least that was what they promoted. Then they made money via Protoshares, Bitcoin donations and Bitshares and now it comes to light that all this was to develop their own proprietary software. Bitshares has to be longest on-going scam in the cryptocurrency realm. While this is without a doubt unethical and of dubious legal nature, I say this is outright fraud. Greed really brings out the most disgusting side in people. Wealth redistribution does not equate to communism. That is nonsensical and a huge jump. Communism is wealth redistribution, but wealth redistribution is not necessarily communism. Far from it. "History doesn't lie." Sure, if you have the right history. hah! I agree with the brownie points. I agree there were mistakes made in the Bitshares ecosystem. Daniel Larimer is not good with words. It has bit them in the ass more than once. They are trying their best to keep the development going. It is hard to do when all the developers could jump ship and immediately find better paying employment elsewhere. This doesn't scream to me scam by any stretch. It has been one of the more successful altcoins in altcoin history. That is the type of history that doesn't lie. I like the fact that you use corporate fascist as a insult alongside communism. 2 things that are almost polar opposites, except you think they are both equally offensive. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: r0ach on September 20, 2015, 04:29:46 PM Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: EvilDave on September 20, 2015, 05:02:42 PM I like the fact that you use corporate fascist as a insult alongside communism. 2 things that are almost polar opposites, except you think they are both equally offensive. From certain points of view, they are equally offensive. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 20, 2015, 08:52:00 PM Wealth redistribution does not equate to communism. That is nonsensical and a huge jump. Communism is wealth redistribution, but wealth redistribution is not necessarily communism. Far from it. Wealth redistribution from the masses to the elite is the main objective of both Communism and Corporate Fascism. "History doesn't lie." Sure, if you have the right history. hah! Are you denying the holocausts perpetrated by the Communists? I like the fact that you use corporate fascist as a insult alongside communism. 2 things that are almost polar opposites, except you think they are both equally offensive. Wrong. They are in fact the exact same thing. You obviously buy hook, line and sinker the very superficial and cursory definitions provided to the masses regarding the terms "corporate fascism" and "communism" without actually deducing for yourself the result of both systems which is the merger of both state and capitalist bureaucracy. As it has been said of the communist revolution: "It is only the old feudal large landed property which exists no longer. Conditions in Russia were ripe for its abolition but they were not ripe for the abolition of capitalism. Capitalism is now once again celebrating a resurrection, but in forms that are more oppressive and harrowing for the proletariat than of old. Instead of assuming higher industrialised forms, private capitalism has assumed the most wretched and shabby forms of black marketeering and money speculation. Industrial capitalism has developed to become state capitalism. Formerly state officials and officials from private capital were critical, often very hostile towards each other. Consequently the working man found that his advantage lay with one or the other in turn. Today the state bureaucracy and capitalist bureaucracy are merged into one—that is the upshot of the great socialist revolution brought about by the Bolsheviks. It constitutes the most oppressive of all despotisms that Russia has ever had to suffer." So, now you see that there is no difference between corporations controlling the state, "corporate fascism", or the state controlling corporations, "communism". They are but one and the same only differentiated by the means to the same end. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you and anyone else that believes the two systems are different, but you've been duped. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Liquid71 on September 20, 2015, 11:51:03 PM My guess is the twins are twinks being bankrolled by Putin
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2013%2F12%2F03%2Farticle-2517383-19CE497000000578-268_306x554.jpg&f=1 Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: Liquid71 on September 20, 2015, 11:54:56 PM question..are brownie points for taking it in the brown eye from the dick tator?
Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: nomoreheroes7 on September 21, 2015, 01:18:34 AM I see this thread has become the troll haven for BTS haters...but the price just keeps going up anyway. Hmm...
Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 21, 2015, 05:17:45 AM My guess is the twins are twinks being bankrolled by Putin https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2013%2F12%2F03%2Farticle-2517383-19CE497000000578-268_306x554.jpg&f=1 No, it's the chicoms. http://s4.postimg.org/yr0sb2igt/Chicom.gif Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: shanem on September 21, 2015, 02:37:12 PM What is the big deal for Bitshares?
It is over 3k satoshi now when it was less than 2k satoshi around one month ago. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 21, 2015, 06:33:24 PM What is the big deal for Bitshares? It is over 3k satoshi now when it was less than 2k satoshi around one month ago. It's a chicom gov pump to attempt to get more unwitting individuals to hand their money over to the Larimer gang. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: dwma on September 21, 2015, 08:26:00 PM Wealth redistribution does not equate to communism. That is nonsensical and a huge jump. Communism is wealth redistribution, but wealth redistribution is not necessarily communism. Far from it. Wealth redistribution from the masses to the elite is the main objective of both Communism and Corporate Fascism. "History doesn't lie." Sure, if you have the right history. hah! Are you denying the holocausts perpetrated by the Communists? I like the fact that you use corporate fascist as a insult alongside communism. 2 things that are almost polar opposites, except you think they are both equally offensive. Wrong. They are in fact the exact same thing. You obviously buy hook, line and sinker the very superficial and cursory definitions provided to the masses regarding the terms "corporate fascism" and "communism" without actually deducing for yourself the result of both systems which is the merger of both state and capitalist bureaucracy. As it has been said of the communist revolution: "It is only the old feudal large landed property which exists no longer. Conditions in Russia were ripe for its abolition but they were not ripe for the abolition of capitalism. Capitalism is now once again celebrating a resurrection, but in forms that are more oppressive and harrowing for the proletariat than of old. Instead of assuming higher industrialised forms, private capitalism has assumed the most wretched and shabby forms of black marketeering and money speculation. Industrial capitalism has developed to become state capitalism. Formerly state officials and officials from private capital were critical, often very hostile towards each other. Consequently the working man found that his advantage lay with one or the other in turn. Today the state bureaucracy and capitalist bureaucracy are merged into one—that is the upshot of the great socialist revolution brought about by the Bolsheviks. It constitutes the most oppressive of all despotisms that Russia has ever had to suffer." So, now you see that there is no difference between corporations controlling the state, "corporate fascism", or the state controlling corporations, "communism". They are but one and the same only differentiated by the means to the same end. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you and anyone else that believes the two systems are different, but you've been duped. Wealth redistribution in some form is the goal of any economic system if I understand your logic. That doesn't make them all the same thing. There are plenty of people in this world at the bottom who support communism. Corporate Facism? <chuckle> Not so much. You can reduice any economic framework/system to some shared trait and claim they are the same thing in the manner that you do. I wouldn't feel particularly proud at my ability to do so, but to each his own. Denying the holocausts? Your logic is profoundly bad or you are schizophrenic. Either way it puts you in a category of person I do not wish to debate with. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on September 22, 2015, 04:57:38 AM Wealth redistribution does not equate to communism. That is nonsensical and a huge jump. Communism is wealth redistribution, but wealth redistribution is not necessarily communism. Far from it. Wealth redistribution from the masses to the elite is the main objective of both Communism and Corporate Fascism. "History doesn't lie." Sure, if you have the right history. hah! Are you denying the holocausts perpetrated by the Communists? I like the fact that you use corporate fascist as a insult alongside communism. 2 things that are almost polar opposites, except you think they are both equally offensive. Wrong. They are in fact the exact same thing. You obviously buy hook, line and sinker the very superficial and cursory definitions provided to the masses regarding the terms "corporate fascism" and "communism" without actually deducing for yourself the result of both systems which is the merger of both state and capitalist bureaucracy. As it has been said of the communist revolution: "It is only the old feudal large landed property which exists no longer. Conditions in Russia were ripe for its abolition but they were not ripe for the abolition of capitalism. Capitalism is now once again celebrating a resurrection, but in forms that are more oppressive and harrowing for the proletariat than of old. Instead of assuming higher industrialised forms, private capitalism has assumed the most wretched and shabby forms of black marketeering and money speculation. Industrial capitalism has developed to become state capitalism. Formerly state officials and officials from private capital were critical, often very hostile towards each other. Consequently the working man found that his advantage lay with one or the other in turn. Today the state bureaucracy and capitalist bureaucracy are merged into one—that is the upshot of the great socialist revolution brought about by the Bolsheviks. It constitutes the most oppressive of all despotisms that Russia has ever had to suffer." So, now you see that there is no difference between corporations controlling the state, "corporate fascism", or the state controlling corporations, "communism". They are but one and the same only differentiated by the means to the same end. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you and anyone else that believes the two systems are different, but you've been duped. Wealth redistribution in some form is the goal of any economic system if I understand your logic. That doesn't make them all the same thing. There are plenty of people in this world at the bottom who support communism. Corporate Facism? <chuckle> Not so much. You can reduice any economic framework/system to some shared trait and claim they are the same thing in the manner that you do. I wouldn't feel particularly proud at my ability to do so, but to each his own. Denying the holocausts? Your logic is profoundly bad or you are schizophrenic. Either way it puts you in a category of person I do not wish to debate with. The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the elite is the main objective of both communism and corporate fascism. Both systems are the exact same thing. This is the big lie of communism. The only reason some of the impoverished of the world support communism is because they are uneducated and manipulated into believing that wealth redistribution in communism is from the top down when in reality it is the exact opposite. Communism is in fact a monopolists paradise. You can have no greater monopoly than that which results from the merger of state and capitalist bureaucracy. Title: Re: How many people will die because of the Bitshares Corporate Fascists/Communists? Post by: tonycamp on September 22, 2015, 05:33:45 AM im going to be sucint about my opinion on terror and nervos people doing closed eyes ideas about the world usa japan europe open tehier eyes into democracy and good republics its my opinion i have seen 2 bombs into japan they are not even democratic bombs turned us into digital over 70 years soo people stay behind into fascim terror or comunism terror and all thend to go to bad examples but people are people get nervos by not having money and not even mental health soo we need to see if masses relly need those extremes besides capital.
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