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Title: About Vod Post by: idyu on September 17, 2015, 10:02:46 AM Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself but whatever
I recently saw that vod have or is contacting QS's employer about what he did, but i think that this is really to much he could maybe lose his job. I not defend qs's actions but he got punished enough and i think what vod is doing now is not good at all. What do you think!? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: erikalui on September 17, 2015, 10:24:46 AM I don't think Vod would go to that extent but anyways, QS is no where innocent. He took 20BTC from TF to sue and file a case against Vod which proves that he started all this chaos. Why should one pity QS when he has dug his own grave? He should stop being immature and just stop running after people just because he was caught doing a shady transaction.
I don't support either in this case. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: hilariousandco on September 17, 2015, 10:32:20 AM I don't think Vod would go to that extent but anyways, He already has. This isn't really the issue though, the issue is how does he know 100% that that guy is QS? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: tmfp on September 17, 2015, 11:07:23 AM I don't think Vod would go to that extent but anyways, He already has. He says he has. He was obviously extremely pissed at what he saw was two big scammers colluding against him, but..... Title: Re: About Vod Post by: BadBear on September 17, 2015, 12:08:28 PM I think Vod is going a little too far. I don't support using his personal information (supposedly) as leverage to try and force him to leave, and I don't support attempting to get him fired by contacting his employer. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Lauda on September 17, 2015, 12:11:22 PM I think that both of them have stepped over the line. One party has threatened to sue and now the other party is hunting him back. Honestly I expected something like this. I've been telling someone that this situation will escalate further, which it did.
The issue is how does he know 100% that that guy is QS? Good question.Title: Re: About Vod Post by: EcuaMobi on September 17, 2015, 12:16:41 PM I strongly think Vod -and in lower degree jonald_fyookball and other supporters- have joined Quickseller into having their reasoning affected because of hate. It's sad to see like that people I used to consider very trustworthy and easy to talk to with arguments instead of attacks.
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: onemorexmr on September 17, 2015, 12:20:22 PM i think its Ok that Vod has doxxed QS. he stated he wont make that info public (which i wouldnt support).
as QS took money from TF to sue vod i think its his right to defense himself. i do not support calling his employer, family and so on (parents maybe: only if QS isa minor, but it seems he isnt). thats just between vod and qs (and to a degree TF because he paid 20BTC for that) Title: Re: About Vod Post by: KaliLinux on September 17, 2015, 12:30:42 PM Quickseller I hope does not leave, regardless of what mistake he made it was not the great deal it has been made out to be and he paid for it by neg trust and removed from default trust. Punishment suitable for the crime so to speak, and even that is to much (imo) Lets not forget he scammed nobody and could have.
@Vod you are a grown man with to much time on your hands trying to bully someone when they are down and that is sickening to any normal person, yes you have your cheerleaders way to go! Hopefully that guy you are trying to get fired denies it as an internet stalker weirdo which would not be lying and lets remember there is no proof associating QS with him is there. Extra, this is the sort of people on default trust that people should trust,yeh right all involved lets grow up and be friends lol Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 12:46:51 PM I think that both of them have stepped over the line. One party has threatened to sue and now the other party is hunting him back. Honestly I expected something like this. I've been telling someone that this situation will escalate further, which it did. I said it was a possibility that legal action would be taken if he did not stop libeling my reputation. Him calling me a scammer (which is untrue) would cause people who I have traded with to release my information to scammers, which appears to have happened considering that someone gave up the return address that I have been using to send packages to several people, an address I can't receive mail to. The way things are going he is probably going to be facing action from that Cody guy, possibly from CVS and maybe worse. I was able to find multiple social media profiles of what appears to be the person he released information on and it appears to be a real person. Quote The issue is how does he know 100% that that guy is QS? Good question.Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Inkvor on September 17, 2015, 12:57:21 PM Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself this is the biggest risk i have ever seen on BCT forum, risking a newbie! account .i cant believe this fight is for DT. He was tricked by someone into thinking that was me and he did not do proper research. who was it then if not you ? he got a wrong guy ?Title: Re: About Vod Post by: slojina on September 17, 2015, 01:10:47 PM This thread... Bitcointalk at its finest!
And yet... somehow I feel it's not right for me to enjoy it as much as I'm enjoying it right now. Thoughts, Gentlemen? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: whywefight on September 17, 2015, 01:19:45 PM oh inderwebz! please more topics about vod, tc, qs, theymos, tf, place_the_name_of_the_user_u_hate_most_here and my mom. cause this will keep usefull stuff down and everyone can easily see: BTC is used by a bunch of whinning fags, complaining about the same shit again and again and again and again and again and again and again... AND AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X18mUlDddCc Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Kanapka on September 17, 2015, 01:23:41 PM I think that both of them have stepped over the line. One party has threatened to sue and now the other party is hunting him back. Honestly I expected something like this. I've been telling someone that this situation will escalate further, which it did. I said it was a possibility that legal action would be taken if he did not stop libeling my reputation. Him calling me a scammer (which is untrue) would cause people who I have traded with to release my information to scammers, which appears to have happened considering that someone gave up the return address that I have been using to send packages to several people, an address I can't receive mail to. The way things are going he is probably going to be facing action from that Cody guy, possibly from CVS and maybe worse. I was able to find multiple social media profiles of what appears to be the person he released information on and it appears to be a real person. Quote The issue is how does he know 100% that that guy is QS? Good question.You can't sue someone for libeling against a reputation of an internet pseudonym that is in no way attached to your identity If one day he dox you and release the info, then maybe you'll have a case. Maybe Title: Re: About Vod Post by: deadley on September 17, 2015, 01:29:34 PM I think Vod is going a little too far. I don't support using his personal information (supposedly) as leverage to try and force him to leave, and I don't support attempting to get him fired by contacting his employer. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So according to you taking fund from TF to sue Vod is fair. I agree contacting HR is not good. It's from moderator team too who allow quickseller to posting from his alts in same thread. This is fault of moderation team too and it's encourage quickseller to go this extent. I knew since begining once this fight will go big it will going to end like this. Even admin and moderation team not trying to stop this daily soap. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: 21coin on September 17, 2015, 01:35:18 PM I think Vod is going a little too far. I don't support using his personal information (supposedly) as leverage to try and force him to leave, and I don't support attempting to get him fired by contacting his employer. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So according to you taking fund from TF to sue Vod is fair. I agree contacting HR is not good. It's from moderator team too who allow quickseller to posting from his alts in same thread. This is fault of moderation team too and it's encourage quickseller to go this extent. I knew since begining once this fight will go big it will going to end like this. Even admin and moderation team not trying to stop this daily soap. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: deadley on September 17, 2015, 01:51:52 PM I think Vod is going a little too far. I don't support using his personal information (supposedly) as leverage to try and force him to leave, and I don't support attempting to get him fired by contacting his employer. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So according to you taking fund from TF to sue Vod is fair. I agree contacting HR is not good. It's from moderator team too who allow quickseller to posting from his alts in same thread. This is fault of moderation team too and it's encourage quickseller to go this extent. I knew since begining once this fight will go big it will going to end like this. Even admin and moderation team not trying to stop this daily soap. Yea posting from alts allow but not in same thread defending each other trying to deceive by showing they all are different individual. It's not only QS if other guy also doing same thing then it must be stop. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: 21coin on September 17, 2015, 01:57:00 PM I think Vod is going a little too far. I don't support using his personal information (supposedly) as leverage to try and force him to leave, and I don't support attempting to get him fired by contacting his employer. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So according to you taking fund from TF to sue Vod is fair. I agree contacting HR is not good. It's from moderator team too who allow quickseller to posting from his alts in same thread. This is fault of moderation team too and it's encourage quickseller to go this extent. I knew since begining once this fight will go big it will going to end like this. Even admin and moderation team not trying to stop this daily soap. Yea posting from alts allow but not in same thread defending each other trying to deceive by showing they all are different individual. It's not only QS if other guy also doing same thing then it must be stop. Pretty much many guys do it, but mostly for the purpose of signature post farming(for which they can be banned as opposed to QS's case, but for spamming not trying to decieve). Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Brad Harrison on September 17, 2015, 02:02:29 PM Vod blocked me from sending him PMs
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: 21coin on September 17, 2015, 02:05:00 PM Vod blocked me from sending him PMs Yeah I'm wondering whyhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1181997.msg12438063#msg12438063 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182044.msg12440060#msg12440060 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182049.msg12438546#msg12438546 Title: Re: About Vod Post by: erikalui on September 17, 2015, 02:14:10 PM I think that both of them have stepped over the line. One party has threatened to sue and now the other party is hunting him back. Honestly I expected something like this. I've been telling someone that this situation will escalate further, which it did. I said it was a possibility that legal action would be taken if he did not stop libeling my reputation. Him calling me a scammer (which is untrue) would cause people who I have traded with to release my information to scammers, which appears to have happened considering that someone gave up the return address that I have been using to send packages to several people, an address I can't receive mail to. The way things are going he is probably going to be facing action from that Cody guy, possibly from CVS and maybe worse. I was able to find multiple social media profiles of what appears to be the person he released information on and it appears to be a real person. Quote The issue is how does he know 100% that that guy is QS? Good question.You can't sue anyone for calling you a scammer. Has he threatened you or blackmailed you? Also, it seems you both don't belong to the same jurisdiction which makes your claims of suing him completely invalid. I really dint expect Vod to do such an immature thing after you threatened him. It doesn't make Vod nor you look responsible as you both are making a personal attack on each other. Also, if your personal address is revealed, what's going to happen? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 02:25:49 PM Also, if your personal address is revealed, what's going to happen? It is also possible that people that are upset that I prevented from being able to steal from others would make attempts to harass me. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Brad Harrison on September 17, 2015, 04:57:37 PM Also Vod is on probation, he was gone for a few months back because he was in jail
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Vod on September 17, 2015, 05:14:01 PM Also Vod is on probation, he was gone for a few months back because he was in jail ::) If that was true, you'd be all over it, posting links and facts and everything. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: erikalui on September 17, 2015, 05:22:23 PM Also, if your personal address is revealed, what's going to happen? It is also possible that people that are upset that I prevented from being able to steal from others would make attempts to harass me. I can understand your fear but while being on the internet, it often happens that our personal information gets leaked. If not Vod, someone else can trace you or anyone and not even disclose their name. Who will you sue in that case and do you think it's worth the effort? It's only those scammers who can cause any harm but they also wouldn't care unless some of them have criminal minds to harass anyone. Looks like Vod wants to close this matter here and I hope you too do the same. This forum can be peaceful again then :) Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 05:27:55 PM It's only those scammers who can cause any harm but they also wouldn't care unless some of them have criminal minds to harass anyone. Well considering that they are attempting to steal from others, I think it would probably be fair to say that they have criminal minds. I am not entirely sure how, however I suspect that some people would be able to harass others without their identities being revealed so the threshold for them deciding to harass someone who they believe stopped them from being able to steal from others would be lower. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 05:30:54 PM Looks like Vod wants to close this matter here and I hope you too do the same. This forum can be peaceful again then :) No matter what happens, I highly doubt the forum will be peaceful, that just don't happen here. The drama meter here has been through the roof recently, even to the extent that the servers crashed because of the sole reason that there was too much drama. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: ajareselde on September 17, 2015, 08:15:33 PM Vod did in my opinion went a bit too far with this issue, but in the end he also said to be a bigger man and stop further pursuit. So i don't think threads like these are necessary anymore.
There are many other people that are far bigger problem than QS imho. We should leave this behind us and move forward. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 08:20:24 PM Vod did in my opinion went a bit too far with this issue, but in the end he also said to be a bigger man and stop further pursuit. You do realize that the damage is already done right? Assuming that he really sent that email, I do not doubt that Guy's boss will see it even if no supporting information was provided and Vod does not follow up with CVS. Also it is not difficult to find a real person based on what Vod released so anyone that does not believe that I am not that person, and wishes to harass/harm me would easily find that person. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickscammer on September 17, 2015, 08:22:27 PM Vod did in my opinion went a bit too far with this issue, but in the end he also said to be a bigger man and stop further pursuit. So i don't think threads like these are necessary anymore. There are many other people that are far bigger problem than QS imho. We should leave this behind us and move forward. like people that receive stolen bitcoins and see no problem with it, and may be teamed with people that stole 1000's of BTCs in the past. Very interesting indeed. Good find. Checks out. Haven't looked into the other addresses. 20 BTC from "TF" to "Quickseller" --> https://blockchain.info/tx/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn --> https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA --> https://blockchain.info/address/1CgD88HMPcBSQ3C5ykLEWFiCJpJ1jryBFg (HASHIE ADDRESS) / https://blockchain.info/address/1FGzuz2E6u1kh4h9DcjR4Z2rfJSoGfiiC3 (HASHIE ADDRESS) http://justpaste.it/hashie https://i.imgur.com/ZCIvYoB.png https://i.imgur.com/dLipkD9.png https://i.imgur.com/YdtpleU.png https://i.imgur.com/Oscd6yI.png https://i.imgur.com/XoZs7yu.png https://i.imgur.com/GIufjqC.png Never mind who is really behind the TF forum account for the moment. Quickseller -- how are you gonna rationalize holding onto these coins? Funny, I always thought that Quickseller = TF was a more plausible explanation than TF blindly sending Quickseller 20 BTC to carry out a blatantly frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't that be interesting? If so, that would be a 100% legit reason to DOX Quickseller. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 17, 2015, 08:25:54 PM Vod did in my opinion went a bit too far with this issue, but in the end he also said to be a bigger man and stop further pursuit. So i don't think threads like these are necessary anymore. Well based on the above post, I think it is fairly clear that Vod has not dropped the issue, although it may not be Vod that created the quickscammer account even though it matches what Vod has been calling me for well over a week. There are many other people that are far bigger problem than QS imho. We should leave this behind us and move forward. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: ajareselde on September 17, 2015, 08:57:36 PM Vod did in my opinion went a bit too far with this issue, but in the end he also said to be a bigger man and stop further pursuit. So i don't think threads like these are necessary anymore. Well based on the above post, I think it is fairly clear that Vod has not dropped the issue, although it may not be Vod that created the quickscammer account even though it matches what Vod has been calling me for well over a week. There are many other people that are far bigger problem than QS imho. We should leave this behind us and move forward. I based my assumption on this : QS is clearly not going anywhere, despite his promises to the community. :-\ I'm going to be the bigger man and step away from this one. I accomplished what I wanted. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182937.0 And i still do believe this will slowly be the end of this. This however is for sure wont happen if you two keep provoking one another. In regards to "damage done" - you cant change what is done, but you can let it be the end of it i guess. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Blazed on September 17, 2015, 11:21:00 PM Removed my trust for Vod
Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. I think the witch hunt mob did more damage than QS ever did. I know my feedback does not carry that D1 weight, but this was poorly handled. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Vod on September 17, 2015, 11:22:56 PM Removed my trust for Vod Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. I think the witch hunt mob did more damage than QS ever did. I know my feedback does not carry that D1 weight, but this was poorly handled. Sorry to hear that Blazed. :( I've stopped my witchhunt against the scammer - the community already distrusts him - no need to do more. I'll sit here and wait uselessly while he doxes and sues me. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: dooglus on September 17, 2015, 11:25:34 PM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Pips on September 17, 2015, 11:26:19 PM Removed my trust for Vod Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. I think the witch hunt mob did more damage than QS ever did. I know my feedback does not carry that D1 weight, but this was poorly handled. I agree. I think Vod's little outbreak has long gone too far. This is ridiculous and I do not trust a few members that I used to trust before this. And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person. Sorry to hear that Blazed. :( I've stopped my witchhunt against the scammer - the community already distrusts him - no need to do more. I'll sit here and wait uselessly while he doxes and sues me. I think you reacted far more than he ever did. But that is simply my opinion. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Blazed on September 17, 2015, 11:31:08 PM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. Also going to review my feedbacks for QS. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: dooglus on September 18, 2015, 12:15:08 AM Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. I understand re. the loan to tsp, but my 2nd feedback was precisely following theymos' recommendation about how to deal with a "border negative" that I disagreed with: - If you disagree with the border-negative, leave a positive rating responding to the negative, even if you already have a positive rating for that person. Don't delete your old rating. You should also consider excluding the inaccurate-rater from your trust list. I didn't go as far as to remove Wardrick from my trust list since I've not yet seen anything from theymos about whether the account was hacked or not. But fair enough. If you feel that my feedback for tsp brings my trust feedbacks into question then it's only right that you strike me from your trust network. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: shorena on September 18, 2015, 07:55:12 AM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. Also going to review my feedbacks for QS. While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list. If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: BOjangle on September 18, 2015, 08:07:48 AM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. Also going to review my feedbacks for QS. While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list. If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu? Maybe so. But when people be abusin (default) trust, leaving bullshit feedback with no evidence that's a consideration too. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: tmfp on September 18, 2015, 08:14:28 AM And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person. ??? Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: dogie on September 18, 2015, 08:18:05 AM And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person. ??? Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent? The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct, going to leave it :P Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Vod on September 18, 2015, 08:37:53 AM The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Yep, I got played. :( On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address. On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile. I lost my cool and I regret it. It certainly won't happen again. I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun. :( Title: Re: About Vod Post by: 21coin on September 18, 2015, 08:43:11 AM The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Yep, I got played. :( On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address. On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile. I lost my cool and I regret it. It certainly won't happen again. I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun. :( Title: Re: About Vod Post by: tmfp on September 18, 2015, 08:54:03 AM And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person. ??? Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent? The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct, going to leave it :P The CVS guy? He's hardly been 'beaten'. Vod sent a "to whom it may concern" email about his alleged internet use and published the address of a chain store. I'd think the internet access would be easy for his employers to check, that's if they bother to read Vod's email. End of story, apart from maybe a couple of stupids sending some spam. End of story unless, of course, CVS check his internet use and find that he's been on Bitcoin Talk for his entire shift..... On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address. Dox him :D Chin up Vod, what don't kill you makes you stronger, live and learn etc. etc. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: shorena on September 18, 2015, 08:54:48 AM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. Also going to review my feedbacks for QS. While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list. If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu? Maybe so. But when people be abusin (default) trust, leaving bullshit feedback with no evidence that's a consideration too. Just because people leave bullshit ratings does not make your bullshit ratings any better. The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Yep, I got played. :( On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address. On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile. I lost my cool and I regret it. It certainly won't happen again. I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun. :( So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? [1] Its an actual question and not meant to be judgemental. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Vod on September 18, 2015, 09:04:35 AM So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts. He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address". I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not. I have not received an email reply yet. I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well. It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all. Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors. The wrong person will not get in trouble. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: idyu on September 18, 2015, 09:36:16 AM Vod is still a cool guy from keeping the scammers out from the forum by all what i have read about him, just that he contacted qs employer was not so cool he can just ruin someone live by this.
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: dogie on September 18, 2015, 09:41:35 AM I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun. :( It appears you missed a lot while you were gone, I'll pm you some bed time reading :P Title: Re: About Vod Post by: hilariousandco on September 18, 2015, 09:42:29 AM So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts. He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address". I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not. I have not received an email reply yet. I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well. It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all. Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors. The wrong person will not get in trouble. So Shadow_Runner just sent you some random info and you just ran with it no questions asked? And why would age, rank or number of posts matter? According to his feedback the account was purchased, not to mention the extortion attempts and his clear dislike of QS. And you can't say for certain that the guy wont get into trouble. I don't think it would look good for any employee if their employer received random info that their staff were up to no good regardless of whether there is any truth to it. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: minifrij on September 18, 2015, 10:45:40 AM I do believe that you jumped the gun a bit with the whole dox thing Vod. Do you or Shadow_Runner have any solid proof that that name/address belongs to Quickseller?
I could say that I Dox'd QuickSeller and post the details of any random person. If you would believe that with no further proof, you would be doing a large wrong-doing. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: shorena on September 18, 2015, 11:43:39 AM So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts. I somehow saw a "Newbie" there. My bad. He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address". I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not. I have not received an email reply yet. I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well. It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all. Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors. The wrong person will not get in trouble. Would you be open to disclose the PMs in question? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Blazed on September 18, 2015, 12:00:31 PM Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback. Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody? Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left. Also going to review my feedbacks for QS. While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list. If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu? I have decided just to yank my entire list and use only Default from here on out. I am not going to bother paying attention to all these scam reports/accusations in the future unless I am messaged about a rating I have left. I think the system in place can work fine, but only if the users can use it right... Title: Re: About Vod Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 19, 2015, 01:46:42 AM BadBear has yet to address why wardrick is still in his trust list. He'd be among the first to know if an account was hacked wouldn't he?
Title: Re: About Vod Post by: monbux on September 19, 2015, 11:57:29 PM Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself but whatever Hey, where is this publicly posted? I'm just getting back to reading all this, could someone link me to the exact posts for this?I recently saw that vod have or is contacting QS's employer about what he did, but i think that this is really to much he could maybe lose his job. I not defend qs's actions but he got punished enough and i think what vod is doing now is not good at all. What do you think!? Thanks in advance. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: MadZ on September 20, 2015, 12:02:46 AM So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts. You do realize that Shadow_Runner was quite obviously a recently sold account, right? It might as well have been a newbie with 3 posts. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: MadZ on September 20, 2015, 12:07:53 AM Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself but whatever Hey, where is this publicly posted? I'm just getting back to reading all this, could someone link me to the exact posts for this?I recently saw that vod have or is contacting QS's employer about what he did, but i think that this is really to much he could maybe lose his job. I not defend qs's actions but he got punished enough and i think what vod is doing now is not good at all. What do you think!? Thanks in advance. Email sent off to general mailbox asking for HR or IT security email. Quote Hello, I am looking for an email address for your IT security or HR department. One of your employees, Cody Black (store 3806), has been committing fraud on our website for over six months now on your time and your equipment. Please advise who I can contact (EMAIL PLEASE) to have this resolved. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1180604.msg12443084#msg12443084 Pretty much all in that thread. Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Quickseller on September 24, 2015, 07:09:54 AM So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]? I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts. You do realize that Shadow_Runner was quite obviously a recently sold account, right? It might as well have been a newbie with 3 posts. Why would this case be any different? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: tspacepilot on September 24, 2015, 08:07:16 PM I don't think this mattered very much to Vod. He has a solid history of not conducting any meaningful amount of research prior to leaving negative trust against someone (or in this case doxing someone), and when he is called out on such negative trust with the lack of evidence, he simply trolls them until they leave. Why would this case be any different? Let's see what Quickseller has to say about Vod, historically: I will un-exclude Vod since he is gone and his ratings are very helpful to many people. My only concern was his rating against Armis, however I can "manually" ignore this. Quote from: Quickseller link=topic=1023038.msg11088449#msg11088449 Edit: the vast majority of the I hate Vod/quickseller/tomatocage threads are made by scammers. haha wow that is a lot of negative feedback. Well I guess we now know who was behind all those spam negatives that Vod got not long ago. None of them have any credibility though, especially considering that they all have negative trust I am glad to see that people are still trolling Vod, over a month after he left - this must mean that he did a good job at stopping scammer Quote from: Quickseller link=topic=913889.msg10042566#msg10042566 My experience with Vod is that he is generally a reasonable person, Here's a fun one: Seems that most people who feel Vod needs to be removed I am fairly certain that if vod is removed then someone will step in and negative trust everyone that he gave negative trust to are people that have received negative trust from Vod. Just sayin. It gets better: I agree that Vod is sometimes a little aggressive when dealing with people. I wouldn't say that he is entirely to blame as the people he is generally aggressive with tend to attempt a campaign (or in this case campaigns) against Vod. I do however consider him to be fair with his ratings most of the time (as in 99.9%+). I think a lot of the "Vod drama" would go stop if he were to simply "walk away" once the person he is dealing with starts things like personal attacks and trolling him. Vod should not be removed from Default trust list as he has way too many people negative rated as scammers and he puts in a lot of time and effort into preventing scams. There are few other, reputable people on here that are willing to put in this much effort into protecting the community. Lets finish with this one: Don't get me wrong, I very much respect and admire VOD. I just think it is funny as to what lengths people go to try to "get back at" VOD for giving them negative trust and ruining their scam attempt. QS, you've come a long way from "respect and admire", what happened? Title: Re: About Vod Post by: Decoded on October 28, 2015, 04:10:31 AM Vod blocked me from sending him PMs It's actually kind of sad that you are complaining about this.Of course Vod blocked you. You called him a paedophile, doxed him, and overall gave him a hard time. You probably caused him alot of grief through PM, and maybe you tried to blackmail him. Who knows? ::) |
