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Title: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 17, 2015, 10:58:04 PM
Operation Caelus


Operation Caelus is a project i'm starting to get a Cubesat with a Bitcoin node to space.

this will be a open source project for everyone to follow. the goal is to send a Cubesat with a Bitcoin node to the Thermosphere.
A Bitcoin node in space would be a great achievement for the bitcoin community!

The Cubesat will be build by various members of the Bitcoin community and financed with Bitcoins.
yes, i am well aware of the difficulties of this project, but i thought that if Apollo 11 landed on the moon on the 20th of July 1969 with less technology then a modern calculator, then so can the bitcoin community (but let's focus on the Thermosphere instead of the moon ;) )


one of the key goals with this Project, except for the Bitcoin node part is to create unique satellite with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts, such as NanoPower P31U Power Supply, ISIS On Board Computer and so on.
for that, i suggest the Core computer to be made out of a RPI, most likely a RPI cluster (2x, can't drain to much power) or a tweaked RPI.
if Possible a camera could also be used on the satellite to broadcast live footage of the first Bitcoin node in space.
to make it more cost effective i propose a 1.33 Kg mass (MAX) Cubesat (10x10x10CM)

We are now also working on a project which will allow us to send bitcoin transactions through radio frequency to the satellite which will then bounce it off to a main server and broadcast it

Building the satellite itself is not that hard nor expensive. the hard part is the launch it self. there are 2 ways one could go on about it.

TBA


First mission; satellite structure


http://www.activistpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/bitcoin-and-future-space-cover.jpg

I have no started a Kickstarter campaign for the Structure!
i will also post a bitcoin Address here for donations. ALL donations will got towards the success of this project.
If you would like a Personal Bitcoin address to donate to, then that can be arranged.
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I have been asked to be escrow for this crowdfunding project. I have generated an address in cold storage below for those who wish to participate in this project:

1MYFZtN2ZDRUWQSPuMU8k4uk9aspBhc1xP (https://blockchain.info/address/1MYFZtN2ZDRUWQSPuMU8k4uk9aspBhc1xP)

Funds will be held until the full amount is raised then it will be handed to the project manager "Sakarias-Corporation" for purchasing of the goods to purchase the Cubesat structure.

Since this escrow cannot guarantee the project manager would not run away with the funds, the manager has offered to provide his full identity and information to me in case anything happens to help increase confidence.

As long as you understand the risks of this project that the funds are not fully protected (due to the nature of the project) then you may go ahead and donate. For any clarification be sure to contact both myself and Sakarias-Corporation.

Escrow by master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294.120

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First Goal; Cubesat structure.  0 / ~http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/2650
(side panels included)
http://www.clyde-space.com/documents/40/40-large.jpg

UPDATE*
Kickstarter campaign for the Structure has launched ! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/811726885/cubesat-brodcasting-a-bitcoin-node-in-space-and-fe


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: GermanGiant on September 17, 2015, 11:02:51 PM
Apollo 11 landed on the moon on the 20th of July 1969 with less technology then a modern calculator
Apollo 11 never landed on the moon. It was a hoax by USA to outcompete USSR in the space exploration race.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: TheButterZone on September 17, 2015, 11:10:05 PM
Redundant? http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Meuh6879 on September 17, 2015, 11:11:56 PM
include 4x 1To of SSD ... for futur upgrade.  ;D
solar panel and product electricity in space is not a problem ... but you must think of the heat circuit.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: adamstgBit on September 17, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
Redundant? http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/

the more the merrier

i'll donate toward launch cost


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 17, 2015, 11:14:10 PM
Redundant? http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/

not quite the same thing, this will be built by the community. i can't find anything about a node, but i might be tired hehe


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 17, 2015, 11:15:08 PM
include 4x 1To of SSD ... for futur upgrade.  ;D
solar panel and product electricity in space is not a problem ... but you must think of the heat circuit.

of course, the great thing with memory in our time is that you can get a lot of it, for low weight and power efficient.


if a camera would also be possible, we'd need someone to program the camera, (depending if we wanna move it a few inches from left to right) among tons of other things.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: TheButterZone on September 17, 2015, 11:19:12 PM
Redundant? http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/

not quite the same thing, this will be built by the community. i can't find anything about a node, but i might be tired hehe

Original topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334701.0


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Meuh6879 on September 17, 2015, 11:23:49 PM
if a camera would also be possible, we'd need someone to program the camera, (depending if we wanna move it a few inches from left to right) among tons of other things.

the problem is the quality (robustess) of the lens in space environment ... (specially solar wind polarisation problem that it burn captor).

take a picture from D nikon camera from a window of the ISS is more easy than include a camera on a satelite.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Snorek on September 17, 2015, 11:23:58 PM
Apollo 11 landed on the moon on the 20th of July 1969 with less technology then a modern calculator
Apollo 11 never landed on the moon. It was a hoax by USA to outcompete USSR in the space exploration race.
Well, you are right It was never sufficiently proven that they landed on the moon. On the topic: I don't think we need bitcoin node in space all that much. It is nothing more than a publicity stunt, if you can keep wasting money on promotion it is good for bitcoin I guess.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: valkir on September 17, 2015, 11:30:23 PM
I guess you will need to be on the medium orbit which could be expensive.
Also cube sat are normally really small.

Nice project I will try to follow.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 17, 2015, 11:31:42 PM
I guess you will need to be on the medium orbit which could be expensive.
Also cube sat are normally really small.

Nice project I will try to follow.

yeah, they're usually just 10x10x10 and max 1.33 KG. there are bigger models of course, and smaller ones.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 18, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
There are some very good Solar panels out there which would offer some extra features such as

Coarse sun sensor
Temperature sensor

it would be a fun feature to collect Data with a bitcoin - node - satellite :)



First mission, equipment. Propose all equipments to be used and we will later decide which options will be the best choice.


this would be the ideal design http://www.cubesatshop.com/images/CSS_products/structures/sts1u104-03.jpg


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 18, 2015, 01:08:10 PM
I Suggest we get a Cubesat structure to begin with, and work around that.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Kprawn on September 18, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
Hey, why aim for the Thermosphere ? ..... This thing should go to Mars with the people who will be going there --> https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

Having a node on another planet, under full control of humans, would be a great leap for Bitcoiners.  ::) ... When they settle there, they can use Bitcoin as the official currency

for trade. Imagine sending inter stellar transfers to other planets for people rendering services {programming .. etc} from Mars. Go big or go home.  ;D


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: coinpr0n on September 18, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
Hope this works out and you keep the thread updated with the progress and whatever things you'll be needing. I'm sure there's a lot of things to be considered...


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 18, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
i feel that this is a ''must'' buy when starting. http://www.cubesatshop.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=66
creating these parts on their own might be difficult, if you don't already have everything needed at home, and don't need to melt the metal to later forge it.

or what do you guys say ?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: juiceayres on September 18, 2015, 08:48:53 PM
Well, unfortunately space is a harsh environment...

RPI will die in a couple of months, rad-hard electronics are needed,etc.. Also space-class amplifiers/transmitters are very expansive.

If this goes on, then I strongly suggest to pay some enterprise to launch it. A rocket per si is dangerous enough, a home made rocket is very risky. Also you will have a lot of troubles with government and airspace clearance to launch.



Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 18, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
Well, unfortunately space is a harsh environment...

RPI will die in a couple of months, rad-hard electronics are needed,etc.. Also space-class amplifiers/transmitters are very expansive.

If this goes on, then I strongly suggest to pay some enterprise to launch it. A rocket per si is dangerous enough, a home made rocket is very risky. Also you will have a lot of troubles with government and airspace clearance to launch.




 Actually, if the Satellite is open source and servers a Educational purpose there's a Chance NASA will take it up for free in their ''NASA’s CubeSat Launch initiative (CSLI) '' so that's defiantly worth looking into


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 08:17:19 AM
Hope this works out and you keep the thread updated with the progress and whatever things you'll be needing. I'm sure there's a lot of things to be considered...


So do I, I hope more enthusiastic members jump aboard with some good proposals :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: MovieBTC on September 19, 2015, 10:10:49 AM
Well, unfortunately space is a harsh environment...

RPI will die in a couple of months, rad-hard electronics are needed,etc.. Also space-class amplifiers/transmitters are very expansive.

If this goes on, then I strongly suggest to pay some enterprise to launch it. A rocket per si is dangerous enough, a home made rocket is very risky. Also you will have a lot of troubles with government and airspace clearance to launch.



a RPI would survive longer in a protective environment (I.e inside the satelite) i also think that a RPI or, as you said a ''tweaked'' one would be a good idea for this, considering you could save like 5k Euro on it haha.




as for the structure you posted, it's a good start.

i will be fun to see where this goes, would be fun to see BTC in space :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 10:48:38 AM
maybe i should stitch some patches to fund some parts haha ?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 04:37:59 PM
Hope this works out and you keep the thread updated with the progress and whatever things you'll be needing. I'm sure there's a lot of things to be considered...

i currently have my Eye's on the structure itself, but i'm currently researching memory, Need to get the lowest power consumption possible (if we want more then 100-300 GB) and still be up to the task.

i've found great sensors for Heat which could be used to measure the temperature.

there's still A LOT to go, but i hope more people will join in soon :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: brg444 on September 19, 2015, 04:38:53 PM
Let me just butt in because I'm very curious but who do you expect to fund this venture?

What makes it different or desirable against DSS (Dunvegan Space Systems) existing project?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Pab on September 19, 2015, 04:50:53 PM

 Fantastic project ,i cant help i am not expert from areas what you need,maybe in future we can have bitcoin internet,could be great  for people with poor internet connection


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 19, 2015, 04:56:24 PM
Am I the only one that is thinking this?!

What benefit does putting a satellite for a bitcoin node into space do?  What would people be getting back in return for being apart of this project, etc.?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
Am I the only one that is thinking this?!

What benefit does putting a satellite for a bitcoin node into space do?  What would people be getting back in return for being apart of this project, etc.?

A Node itself won't do much, that's why we're adding sensors to collect data which could be used by anyone to anything they want.

The project itself should get a lot of media coverage which is never bad.

Bitcoin will literally be a part of space :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 19, 2015, 05:23:07 PM
Hey, why aim for the Thermosphere ? ..... This thing should go to Mars with the people who will be going there --> https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

Having a node on another planet, under full control of humans, would be a great leap for Bitcoiners.  ::) ... When they settle there, they can use Bitcoin as the official currency

for trade. Imagine sending inter stellar transfers to other planets for people rendering services {programming .. etc} from Mars. Go big or go home.  ;D

Wouldn't collectively working together in the harsh environment be paramount for their survival, with the use of any currency being at the bottom on the list if listed at all? Hell, for that matter, developing games for the expat Martians to play during their non-working hours should also be on the list to further secure their survival. While we're at it, include botsex, drugs and rock-and-roll, then we could push Martian-crypto toward the top of the list so to facilitate commerce for said endeavors.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 05:40:24 PM
It is also Possible to Send a Bitcoin transaction over a Radio Frequency. by other words. you could literally bunch a Transaction with a radio onto the satellite and the satellite would bounce it to a computer which would pic up the code a broadcast it.

(you wouldn't need a internet connection to send a transaction, just a radio which is capable of bouncing it of the satellite)

pretty cool


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: ajareselde on September 19, 2015, 05:46:01 PM
I am amazed by the idea, and i will keep an eye out for this one. I will also try to find some funds to add to this cause once
i see that it's going to be really done. I mean node in space - that would give us place on some media, which is always a nice thing!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: dothebeats on September 19, 2015, 05:50:00 PM
Good idea to send out a node in space however, due to intense radiation, you should consider on looking for materials/equipment that can pretty much sustain intensive exposure to radiation for a long time. If not, give it a couple of months and the node will wear down faster than expected.

Will keep an eye out on this thread. Hope this gets enough attention and be executed in the future! :D


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 19, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
It is also Possible to Send a Bitcoin transaction over a Radio Frequency. by other words. you could literally bunch a Transaction with a radio onto the satellite and the satellite would bounce it to a computer which would pic up the code a broadcast it.

(you wouldn't need a internet connection to send a transaction, just a radio which is capable of bouncing it of the satellite)

pretty cool

Yeah I agree, it's a pretty cool idea and that process itself would be pretty cool... but idk if it's $120K cool.  Using a satellite to transfer funds over radio frequency itself is an awesome concept, I just don't think that it will have any use because if bitcoin is a internet currency in general, there is no need for radio frequencies to be used because the internet isn't going anywhere...

I guess I'm just not seeing the full capabilities of this yet, will be monitoring the progress though! Any news is good news for bitcoin, the more public bitcoin becomes the better it is for the currency in general.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 05:58:47 PM
Good idea to send out a node in space however, due to intense radiation, you should consider on looking for materials/equipment that can pretty much sustain intensive exposure to radiation for a long time. If not, give it a couple of months and the node will wear down faster than expected.

Will keep an eye out on this thread. Hope this gets enough attention and be executed in the future! :D

Hey, I have already found the exact material we need for protective casing against radiation, the case "structure" will be the first goal to get, with that we can start working on what to include and so, it also comes with perfectly PCBs to build on which matches the "box"


I am amazed by the idea, and i will keep an eye out for this one. I will also try to find some funds to add to this cause once
i see that it's going to be really done. I mean node in space - that would give us place on some media, which is always a nice thing!

So am I, I'm actually thinking of starting a Kickstar campaign, among various things to raise funds.



About sending transactions with radio frequencies, imagine, the first transaction to be bounced by a radio, on to a Bitcoin Satelite and broadcasted.
You could use a small radio to broadcast the TX to a command station which would later bounce it to the Satelite, making it more viable to everyone.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 19, 2015, 06:02:33 PM

About sending transactions with radio frequencies, imagine, the first transaction to be bounced by a radio, on to a Bitcoin Satelite and broadcasted.
You could use a small radio to broadcast the TX to a command station which would later bounce it to the Satelite, making it more viable to everyone.

Yeah this could be useful for 3rd world countries that don't have internet, other than that I don't really see any other cause or need for this to be successful.  I'm not trying to rain on everyones parade in this thread, I'm just having trouble seeing the benefits...


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 06:35:46 PM

About sending transactions with radio frequencies, imagine, the first transaction to be bounced by a radio, on to a Bitcoin Satelite and broadcasted.
You could use a small radio to broadcast the TX to a command station which would later bounce it to the Satelite, making it more viable to everyone.

Yeah this could be useful for 3rd world countries that don't have internet, other than that I don't really see any other cause or need for this to be successful.  I'm not trying to rain on everyones parade in this thread, I'm just having trouble seeing the benefits...

beside the Node / Raido bouncing.

take a look at the other things which would be included, Radiation sensor, Temperature sensor, and other sensors. All Data from space, is valuable data :)




Media title;   Bitcoin Provides Free Data from space!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 19, 2015, 09:35:52 PM
I've contacted a guy whom wrote a topic on broadcasting a TX over radio, hopefully he's onboard :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 20, 2015, 12:15:35 AM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.


Exactly, we'll need people to revive the data on every continent to have a 24/7 uplink.

That would be great!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: HI-TEC99 on September 20, 2015, 11:07:03 AM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.

Wouldn't the time delay between the satellite node transmitting and the receiver nodes on Earth receiving make the satellite node always out of sync with all Earth base nodes? I'm no electronics/radio expert, but a cubesat couldn't have a very powerful transmitter considering its size. Can tiny transmitters transmit reliably at high speed over the vast distances from orbit back to Earth?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 11:18:43 AM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.

Wouldn't the time delay between the satellite node transmitting and the receiver nodes on Earth receiving make the satellite node always out of sync with all Earth base nodes? I'm no electronics/radio expert, but a cubesat couldn't have a very powerful transmitter considering its size. Can tiny transmitters transmit reliably at high speed over vast the distances from orbit back to Earth?

a Full Node requires ~ Internet connection with upload speeds of at least 400 kilobits (50 kilobytes) per second.

a Cubesat can have a very powerful transmitter, it depends on how you build it, a standard Cubesat S-band transmitter Transmission data rates up to 2 Mbps. but there are way more powerful ones which could be used instead.


i've also checked up more on launching. there are apparently way cheaper alternatives then the 120k i mentioned earlier, it seems to depend on the company situation really, and it can vary from 40-120k


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: dothebeats on September 20, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.

Wouldn't the time delay between the satellite node transmitting and the receiver nodes on Earth receiving make the satellite node always out of sync with all Earth base nodes? I'm no electronics/radio expert, but a cubesat couldn't have a very powerful transmitter considering its size. Can tiny transmitters transmit reliably at high speed over vast the distances from orbit back to Earth?

a Full Node requires ~ Internet connection with upload speeds of at least 400 kilobits (50 kilobytes) per second.

a Cubesat can have a very powerful transmitter, it depends on how you build it, a standard Cubesat S-band transmitter Transmission data rates up to 2 Mbps. but there are way more powerful ones which could be used instead.


i've also checked up more on launching. there are apparently way cheaper alternatives then the 120k i mentioned earlier, it seems to depend on the company situation really, and it can carry from 40-120kwoi

I wonder if we can actually get NASA to include it in their CSLI project? If in case we get NASA to get our own cubesat launched, that would drastically decrease the cost of sending the first bitcoin node in space, though I don't know exactly how is the process gonna be.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
I like this project. Will be following.

Also, for the note to function, we will need the satellite to connect to various ground stations around the world so it constantly stays up to date. We could probably set up a network of volunteers who would broadcast and receive data from the satellite and publish it to the internet.

Also, I know an aerospace engineer (rocket scientist) so I will see if I can get him in on this.

Wouldn't the time delay between the satellite node transmitting and the receiver nodes on Earth receiving make the satellite node always out of sync with all Earth base nodes? I'm no electronics/radio expert, but a cubesat couldn't have a very powerful transmitter considering its size. Can tiny transmitters transmit reliably at high speed over vast the distances from orbit back to Earth?

a Full Node requires ~ Internet connection with upload speeds of at least 400 kilobits (50 kilobytes) per second.

a Cubesat can have a very powerful transmitter, it depends on how you build it, a standard Cubesat S-band transmitter Transmission data rates up to 2 Mbps. but there are way more powerful ones which could be used instead.


i've also checked up more on launching. there are apparently way cheaper alternatives then the 120k i mentioned earlier, it seems to depend on the company situation really, and it can carry from 40-120kwoi

I wonder if we can actually get NASA to include it in their CSLI project? If in case we get NASA to get our own cubesat launched, that would drastically decrease the cost of sending the first bitcoin node in space, though I don't know exactly how is the process gonna be.

it would have to server a educational  purpose so;
1; Sensors
2; Building a satellite with as little as possible commercial products, for as cheap as possible.

i'm note sure if they would but any weight to the Node / sending a TX over Radio frequencies. so hopefully 1 or 2 would be something they could get behind.

but first we have to come up with some planes. i suggest we aim for a 1U Cubesat structure to begin with. that's a 1.33KG mass MAX satellite. it would also be the cheapest one (you'd save 3k Euro) but if we'd want a 2u (2 x 1u) you could simply hook them together.
i've been thinking about starting a Kickstarter campaign for the starker only, so we have somewhere to go, and also getting some PCB which people could start to build on.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
I've actually started a crowd funded for the structure, but it will take a while before its up. I used the word ISIS as in innovative solutions in space...so my application is currently "under U.S. Government analysis" before it will go online .


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 20, 2015, 04:44:28 PM
I've actually started a crowd funded for the structure, but it will take a while before its up. I used the word ISIS as in the space station...so my application is currently "under U.S. Government analysis" before it will go online .
Uhh, The international space station is ISS, not ISIS


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 04:52:04 PM
I've actually started a crowd funded for the structure, but it will take a while before its up. I used the word ISIS as in the space station...so my application is currently "under U.S. Government analysis" before it will go online .
Uhh, The international space station is ISS, not ISIS

Sorry; innovative solutions in space**,haha...
http://www.isispace.nl/cms/


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 08:36:27 PM
i'm going to contact some Bitcoin related business to see if they are incrusted and would like to support us


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Blawpaw on September 20, 2015, 08:47:47 PM
I think this is a great idea.

About The launch:(I'm probably wrong and this is a bad idea) Couldn't we send it to space in a helium balloon??? That would be far less expensive.

it would be necessary to develop some kind of trust for the satellite in order to maintain it in a constant orbit once the balloon got to low orbit.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
I think this is a great idea.

About The launch:(I'm probably wrong and this is a bad idea) Couldn't we send it to space in a helium balloon??? That would be far less expensive.

it would be necessary to develop some kind of trust for the satellite in order to maintain it in a constant orbit once the balloon got to low orbit.

Glad you like it!

Sorry mate :/ if you would have a Helium ballon with a Diameter of 1M. then the Ballon wold expand to 10M in diameters !!! and then burst at 60-84KM up in the air...it's unfortunately way to short :( (but you could use a small camera and take some cool pictures above the clouds on ''space frotdoor'' )
so unfortunately a Balloon will not do the trick :/

trust, it really depends on how far up it gets, if it's low orbit, then yes defiantly.
Avtalet trusts couls be added Linda cheap and easy to be honest


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on September 20, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
I remember reading the argument on what would happen if there was a war or some goverment coalition trying to ban Bitcoin, and the solution was it wouldn't be a problem for the network to keep running because the rich Bitcoin guys would launch their own satellites to keep the network running.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 20, 2015, 11:29:56 PM
I remember reading the argument on what would happen if there was a war or some goverment coalition trying to ban Bitcoin, and the solution was it wouldn't be a problem for the network to keep running because the rich Bitcoin guys would launch their own satellites to keep the network running.

that would be something ;)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 21, 2015, 03:57:48 AM
I contacted my aerospace engineer and he said that he doesn't have the time but might be able to help once he does have the time to do so.

For people researching this and wanting to help out, cubesat.org is a good place to start.

What stuff should be on the satellite? Besides the raspi for the node and the basics for communication and control, what else should be included? If there is a directional instrument (e.g. a camera) then reaction wheels will be required. Also, how long do we want this cubesat to last? Higher orbits for longer lifetimes cost more money. But lower orbits will cause its orbit to decay faster and thus shortening its lifetime.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: dothebeats on September 21, 2015, 06:44:36 AM
I contacted my aerospace engineer and he said that he doesn't have the time but might be able to help once he does have the time to do so.

For people researching this and wanting to help out, cubesat.org is a good place to start.

What stuff should be on the satellite? Besides the raspi for the node and the basics for communication and control, what else should be included? If there is a directional instrument (e.g. a camera) then reaction wheels will be required. Also, how long do we want this cubesat to last? Higher orbits for longer lifetimes cost more money. But lower orbits will cause its orbit to decay faster and thus shortening its lifetime.

Higher altitude means higher radiation levels, so that could probably force us to increase our budget if we want our cubesat to last longer. About the directional instrument, we could probably code a program in which we can make the camera look into certain directions. I really hope this project goes into reality, and I want our space node to be the first of its kind.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Kakmakr on September 21, 2015, 10:21:06 AM
Can I make a suggestion for the funding? We had a project at my kid’s school, where they wanted to build a better boundary wall around the school. They got the parents involved and every household pitched in to fund a section of the wall. The school then attached a little name plate of the sponsor to the wall to give recognition to the people who funded the project.

You could do something similar, but only attach a website Url on the cube to redirect to a website with a list of the people who sponsored it.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 11:50:09 AM
Can I make a suggestion for the funding? We had a project at my kid’s school, where they wanted to build a better boundary wall around the school. They got the parents involved and every household pitched in to fund a section of the wall. The school then attached a little name plate of the sponsor to the wall to give recognition to the people who funded the project.

You could do something similar, but only attach a website Url on the cube to redirect to a website with a list of the people who sponsored it.

i was thinking of that actually, and putting the top contributors names inside the cube itself (you'll have your signature in space ;) )


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Febo on September 21, 2015, 12:20:56 PM
I wonder what is a point of it?  Just to get advertisement for Bitcoin? Or maybe to test something. I would suggest you to try to find some such test reason. I bet you would get much more supporters that way.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 12:33:39 PM
I wonder what is a point of it?  Just to get advertisement for Bitcoin? Or maybe to test something. I would suggest you to try to find some such test reason. I bet you would get much more supporters that way.

Hey, i think you should read the whole thread. the are more reasons here then just the bitcoin Node :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 05:34:24 PM
i've managed to get a Kickstarter campaign up and running for the structure !


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 21, 2015, 06:14:24 PM
I've been thinking about this, but would it be beneficial to incorporate a portion of the satellite to host the first satellite broadcasted Bitcoin radio using this satellite? You could then have Bitcoin businesses advertise periodically between intermissions to support funding.

Don't know if this would work though.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
I've been thinking about this, but would it be beneficial to incorporate a portion of the satellite to host the first satellite broadcasted Bitcoin radio using this satellite? You could then have Bitcoin businesses advertise periodically between intermissions to support funding.

Don't know if this would work though.

Hey, both the ''satellite broadcasted Bitcoin radio'' and the Node would fir into this single Cubesat! there's also the possibility to build a 2U instead of a 1U without much + cost. but as said, i'm positive we could fit both of them simultaneously!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: runpaint on September 21, 2015, 07:04:12 PM
Hey, why aim for the Thermosphere ? ..... This thing should go to Mars with the people who will be going there --> https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

Having a node on another planet, under full control of humans, would be a great leap for Bitcoiners.  ::) ... When they settle there, they can use Bitcoin as the official currency

for trade. Imagine sending inter stellar transfers to other planets for people rendering services {programming .. etc} from Mars. Go big or go home.  ;D



Classic example of why we need sidechains - communication is too slow and too unreliable for people to mine the same blockchain on Mars that they're mining on Earth.  Even with newer technology and optimized communication speeds, with minimized interference, there would be constant forks at best.  And then there could be regular communications blackouts depending on the relative positions of the planets, so I don't think it would work.  You'd need separate blockchains.

When people go to Mars, they would need to send their bitcoins to the Mars sidechain.  Their transaction will take a while to reach Mars, but it will get there long before they do.  Then they'll have coins on the Mars blockchain.

Then when they're ready to come back to Earth, they send their coins back from the sidechain to the original Bitcoin blockchain on Earth.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 21, 2015, 07:10:09 PM
Hey, why aim for the Thermosphere ? ..... This thing should go to Mars with the people who will be going there --> https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

Having a node on another planet, under full control of humans, would be a great leap for Bitcoiners.  ::) ... When they settle there, they can use Bitcoin as the official currency

for trade. Imagine sending inter stellar transfers to other planets for people rendering services {programming .. etc} from Mars. Go big or go home.  ;D



Classic example of why we need sidechains - communication is too slow and too unreliable for people to mine the same blockchain on Mars that they're mining on Earth.  Even with newer technology and optimized communication speeds, with minimized interference, there would be constant forks at best.  And then there could be regular communications blackouts depending on the relative positions of the planets, so I don't think it would work.  You'd need separate blockchains.

When people go to Mars, they would need to send their bitcoins to the Mars sidechain.  Their transaction will take a while to reach Mars, but it will get there long before they do.  Then they'll have coins on the Mars blockchain.

Then when they're ready to come back to Earth, they send their coins back from the sidechain to the original Bitcoin blockchain on Earth.

That's some real sci-fi optimism you got going on there buddy... maybe by then we could time travel back to 2009 to invest heavily into bitcoin so we'll be rich now :) But seriously... that would be awesome if people really do end up going to Mars with new politics, philosophy, and way of doing business there. Hurry up and be year 2050 already!!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 21, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
i've managed to get a Kickstarter campaign up and running for the structure !
What is the link?

I think we should include two computers, the raspberry pi and an actual board designed for satellites for the flight system. That flight computer can also control the power to the raspberry pi in case the raspi should crash or die at some point.

This site appears to be quite helpful for components: http://www.cubesatkit.com/


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 07:28:26 PM
i've managed to get a Kickstarter campaign up and running for the structure !
What is the link?

I think we should include two computers, the raspberry pi and an actual board designed for satellites for the flight system. That flight computer can also control the power to the raspberry pi in case the raspi should crash or die at some point.

This site appears to be quite helpful for components: http://www.cubesatkit.com/

That's actually a good idea to have a backup computer.

here it is https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/811726885/cubesat-brodcasting-a-bitcoin-node-in-space-and-fe

i've also made a BTC address in the OP incase people want contribute with BTC


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on September 21, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBllP5dPSHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZzmcNB_1Tc


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBllP5dPSHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZzmcNB_1Tc

This is not entirely the same thing, but it's great that more people are working on things like these :D !


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 21, 2015, 07:44:06 PM
How did you determine the the goal for the kickstarter campaign?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 07:47:58 PM
How did you determine the the goal for the kickstarter campaign?

The Main goal with this Kickstarter campaign is Mainly to get the Cubesat structure and the PCB's that comes with it, so we can start building and planing from there. by acquiring the first part we're sure to fix the other later on once people see that we are fully serious about this project.
i didn't want to make a kickstarter campaign starting out with asking for 5-10x times that amount.
sorry if it wasn't clear in the campaign, i'll fix that soon then :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
i've updated the OP with Kickstarter link and the first goal


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 21, 2015, 10:37:21 PM
i've updated the OP with Kickstarter link and the first goal

I'm not goin' be critical of your endeavor, but please clean up the grammar - mainly capitalization - because it reflects badly on you, in turn, those in the cryptocurrency space (no pun intended). Thanks, bud, with wishing you luck. Godspeed.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 21, 2015, 10:39:36 PM
i've updated the OP with Kickstarter link and the first goal

I'm not goin' be critical of your endeavor, but please clean up the grammar - mainly capitalization - because it reflects badly on you, in turn, those in the cryptocurrency space (no pun intended). Thanks, bud, with wishing you luck.

Sorry it's a very very bad habit, i used to have tons of binds on SHIFT and almost every  third click i did was with shift pushed down. stupid thing got stuck. i'll clean it up.


if you guys like to idea and simply wanna help, a nice comment of any kind would help on the Kickstarter campaign to push it to the top.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/811726885/cubesat-brodcasting-a-bitcoin-node-in-space-and-fe

i updated the OP with the first goal.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: RGBKey on September 22, 2015, 12:43:01 AM
Make sure you put some way to update software on it if that's possible...wouldn't want it running outdated software.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: valkir on September 22, 2015, 01:00:26 AM
You should do a reward that give access to it. Like a user. I will be more than happy to help if I could access part of it later.  ;D


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
You should do a reward that give access to it. Like a user. I will be more than happy to help if I could access part of it later.  ;D


That is actually a good idea, since it's going to be for the community


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
You should do a reward that give access to it. Like a user. I will be more than happy to help if I could access part of it later.  ;D


That is actually a good idea, since it's going to be for the community
I think only a few operators who know what they are doing should be able to access it. For security. The reward can be the user get read only access and can send whatever data and commands they want to send up to an operator who makes sure that it is OK to send the data.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 12:06:43 PM
You should do a reward that give access to it. Like a user. I will be more than happy to help if I could access part of it later.  ;D


That is actually a good idea, since it's going to be for the community
I think only a few operators who know what they are doing should be able to access it. For security. The reward can be the user get read only access and can send whatever data and commands they want to send up to an operator who makes sure that it is OK to send the data.

there could be a reward as ''use the cubist for 1 day (with supervision)'' a lot of companies do that


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 02:53:44 PM
Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 07:31:32 PM
I've made a Twitter account to spread the word! https://twitter.com/BitcoinCubesat you can support the project by retweeting or follow :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 07:49:01 PM
Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"
If some interesting instruments such as a camera are included then maybe saying a reward is to get access to that instrument.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"
If some interesting instruments such as a camera are included then maybe saying a reward is to get access to that instrument.

That wold be a good idea, there are some Good cameras Designed for Cubesats, but we have to consider the power consumption, but then again, there's always a option to add another 1U for extras


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 07:55:43 PM
Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"
If some interesting instruments such as a camera are included then maybe saying a reward is to get access to that instrument.

That wold be a good idea, there are some Good cameras Designed for Cubesats, but we have to consider the power consumption, but then again, there's always a option to add another 1U for extras
I think the satellite would need to be 2U in order to have enough space for everything. It looks like a raspberry pi, backup computer, hard drive and batteries would take up most of the space in a 1U.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will launch a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"
If some interesting instruments such as a camera are included then maybe saying a reward is to get access to that instrument.

That wold be a good idea, there are some Good cameras Designed for Cubesats, but we have to consider the power consumption, but then again, there's always a option to add another 1U for extras
I think the satellite would need to be 2U in order to have enough space for everything. It looks like a raspberry pi, backup computer, hard drive and batteries would take up most of the space in a 1U.

yeep, we either go with a 2U or ditch a few Units.

good thing is that a 2u is not at all that much more expensive then a 2u.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101_alt on September 22, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
When you say
Quote
with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 08:09:30 PM
When you say
Quote
with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.

Yea that's what I mean, I know it's a challenge, it truly is, but there tens of thousands brilliant minds here and I'm sure we can figure it out together.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: cakir on September 22, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 08:16:02 PM
When you say
Quote
with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.

Yea that's what I mean, I know it's a challenge, it truly is, but there tens of thousands brilliant minds here and I'm sure we can figure it out together.
I think the only commercial satellite parts that we need are the chassis, solar panels, and shielding. We might need reaction wheels depending on the instruments on it and maybe a control computer if the raspi doesn't work for controlling it. Also, the raspi will need to have parts directly soldered do it because using the pins and plugging things in will most likely end up with things falling out.

The radio might also need to be a commercial satellite part.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 22, 2015, 08:18:43 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: cakir on September 22, 2015, 08:21:00 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 22, 2015, 08:23:57 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?
Sure it can. It can send data to and from the ground stations. The ground stations can then relay the data to the rest of the network. And vice cersa.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: cakir on September 22, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?
Sure it can. It can send data to and from the ground stations. The ground stations can then relay the data to the rest of the network. And vice cersa.
Ah ok. I got it now, there'll be only 1 satellite and while it's orbiting it'll share data with ground stations bidirectionally.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 07:48:25 AM
I have now made a Twitter account to help spread the word; BitcoinCubesat


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: JeromeL on September 23, 2015, 08:08:01 AM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 08:19:09 AM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.


Please read the whole thread, we've already talked about this.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: JeromeL on September 23, 2015, 09:14:58 AM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.


Please read the whole thread, we've already talked about this.

My comment adresses exactely the part in the thread where you "already talked about it".



Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: yayayo on September 23, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Sending a satellite to space - even if it "only" is a cubesat - requires a lot more expertise than just building a radiation-resistant RPi. That explains why even an intelligent guy like Jeff Garzik has contracted industry specialists to provide parts and help with the design.

From what I've read so far I'm not convinced that the thread starter has the necessary technological knowledge to achieve success on his own. I also doubt he will attract professional talent, because the project seems to be just centered around a spontaneous "Wouldn't it be somehow cool to have a Bitcoin satellite in space?"-fantasy and therefore lacks a proper goal definition.

No you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy, but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Now prove me wrong. :D

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Sending a satellite to space - even if it "only" is a cubesat - requires a lot more expertise than just building a radiation-resistant RPi. That explains why even an intelligent guy like Jeff Garzik has contracted industry specialists to provide parts and help with the design.

From what I've read so far I'm not convinced that the thread starter has the necessary technological knowledge to achieve success on his own. I also doubt he will attract professional talent, because the project seems to be just centered around a spontaneous "Wouldn't it be somehow cool to have a Bitcoin satellite in space?"-fantasy and therefore lacks a proper goal definition.

No you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy, but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Now prove me wrong. :D

ya.ya.yo!

Hey thanks for your Feedback! as me and knightdk discussed earlier on, we probably will not use the RPI as the main computer but rather a NanoMind A712D in case the RPI wold fail.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: MovieBTC on September 23, 2015, 12:50:17 PM
Twitter account is gaining followers, may i suggest? the 2U sat sounds good, more room for more equipment, Power and batteries.
a good option wold be ''expandable solar panels'' something like this
http://www.spaceinformationlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/CubeSat-Photo.jpg
you could fit a few more panels then


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: JeromeL on September 23, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: yayayo
you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy

Making critical feedback is very valuable, for the ones who listen.

Quote from: yayayo
but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Please don't donate anything to this shady project, it would be a pure waste. Less shiny but much more valuable projects out there to work on.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: yayayo
you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy

Making critical feedback is very valuable, for the ones who listen.

Quote from: yayayo
but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Please don't donate anything to this shady project, it would be a pure waste. Less shiny but much more valuable projects out there to work on.

this project is open for anyone, you don't even need to donate anything, you could even build helpful components back at home, or just share valuable information and ideas


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: allthingsluxury on September 23, 2015, 01:42:28 PM
I think its a very cool venture and wish you the best of luck. Anything that raises awareness of BTC in my books is a good thing. Especially if its in a good way :)



Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 01:43:38 PM
I think its a very cool venture and wish you the best of luck. Anything that raises awareness of BTC in my books is a good thing. Especially if its in a good way :)



Thank you :) doing the best i can to raise awareness of this project now :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 23, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.
Why should we? That project is a constellation of satellites for two private companies that are doing things themselves for their customers, not something that is open source and community built and funded.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.
It might be, but we are not building this from scratch. There are numerous companies that provide satellite parts and expertise to cubesat builders. OP doesn't need experience in this field. We can get assistance from experts in the field and building a cubesat does not require having expertise or a degree in this field. A bunch of high schoolers were able to build one and put it into space.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 23, 2015, 08:03:55 PM
DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.
Why should we? That project is a constellation of satellites for two private companies that are doing things themselves for their customers, not something that is open source and community built and funded.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.
It might be, but we are not building this from scratch. There are numerous companies that provide satellite parts and expertise to cubesat builders. OP doesn't need experience in this field. We can get assistance from experts in the field and building a cubesat does not require having expertise or a degree in this field. A bunch of high schoolers were able to build one and put it into space.


Well put mate!

I think some people are missing the point with this project,


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: NorrisK on September 23, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
Very cool idea that may hit some major news lines if acheived. Definately following this!

PS. Also looking forward to you future ciphers :D


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 24, 2015, 09:47:27 AM
Very cool idea that may hit some major news lines if acheived. Definately following this!

PS. Also looking forward to you future ciphers :D

Hopefully i'll have a new one done soon ;)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: dothebeats on September 24, 2015, 10:15:29 AM
Any updates on how would the CubeSat be? And what would be the estimated budget of this project? I'd like to try my hand at creating a model of the CubeSat if I have the specifications of it. I'm eager to have even the final model of the CubeSat finished! :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 24, 2015, 11:03:33 AM
Any updates on how would the CubeSat be? And what would be the estimated budget of this project? I'd like to try my hand at creating a model of the CubeSat if I have the specifications of it. I'm eager to have even the final model of the CubeSat finished! :)

the structure will cost about 2980 Euros, which is the part we're trying to get our hands on now.

here's one look at a finished model http://www.czcube.org/docs/Image/050910c.jpg


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 24, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
Any updates on how would the CubeSat be? And what would be the estimated budget of this project? I'd like to try my hand at creating a model of the CubeSat if I have the specifications of it. I'm eager to have even the final model of the CubeSat finished! :)

oh and also, if we do go with the 2U then it will be 100% taller hehe :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: NorrisK on September 24, 2015, 04:38:40 PM
How will these puppies be protected from debris flying at a couple of million miles per second through that thing? Or is the size so small that luck should take care of this?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 24, 2015, 04:43:15 PM
How will these puppies be protected from debris flying at a couple of million miles per second through that thing? Or is the size so small that luck should take care of this?
It is small enough that it should not be hit.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 24, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
How will these puppies be protected from debris flying at a couple of million miles per second through that thing? Or is the size so small that luck should take care of this?

First they're very very small, and the chance of getting hit by debris is very slim, considering how Huge the different spheres are, also when NASA or companies do drop of these cubists into orbit, they often choose a so called ''Debres free zone'' which also lowers the risk of the cubist getting hit.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: MovieBTC on September 24, 2015, 10:45:08 PM
you should try to get some blogger to write a few words about the project :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Send a Bitcoin node to space. (Community built satellite)
Post by: YarkoL on September 25, 2015, 08:36:17 AM

 Actually, if the Satellite is open source and servers a Educational purpose there's a Chance NASA will take it up for free in their ''NASA’s CubeSat Launch initiative (CSLI) '' so that's defiantly worth looking into

I think that might be a possibility only if this
was conducted under the auspices of some university..
And a government agency like NASA helping Bitcoin to
get into space? I find that very implausible...

A private company like Interorbital Systems  (http://www.interorbital.com/)
is your best bet, and that'll cost about $10K (don't know if they accept BTC  :))


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 25, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
How will these puppies be protected from debris flying at a couple of million miles per second through that thing? Or is the size so small that luck should take care of this?

First they're very very small, and the chance of getting hit by debris is very slim, considering how Huge the different spheres are, also when NASA or companies do drop of these cubists into orbit, they often choose a so called ''Debres free zone'' which also lowers the risk of the cubist getting hit.

Have you considered trying to contact Silicon Valley with these plans, as well as contacting NASA yet?  I know NASA would be interested, just to generate some extra revenue by putting another satellite in orbit... but I think Silicon Valley is really started to get into the block chain technology and bitcoin in general.  They might be able to really be a big player in contributions and the development aspect.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: tiggytomb on September 25, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
I saw this on Kickstarter, great idea and they are much smaller than I initially thought so would not cause much trouble up there.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: BillyBobZorton on September 25, 2015, 03:02:41 PM
We need to send a big squad of flying nodes into space so we never run out of nodes. 24/7 running space nodes that feed from the energy of the sun, constantly processing transactions. The problem would be to keep it cool so it doesn't malfunction but im sure there are ways around this.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 25, 2015, 05:21:08 PM
How will these puppies be protected from debris flying at a couple of million miles per second through that thing? Or is the size so small that luck should take care of this?

First they're very very small, and the chance of getting hit by debris is very slim, considering how Huge the different spheres are, also when NASA or companies do drop of these cubists into orbit, they often choose a so called ''Debres free zone'' which also lowers the risk of the cubist getting hit.

Have you considered trying to contact Silicon Valley with these plans, as well as contacting NASA yet?  I know NASA would be interested, just to generate some extra revenue by putting another satellite in orbit... but I think Silicon Valley is really started to get into the block chain technology and bitcoin in general.  They might be able to really be a big player in contributions and the development aspect.

i'm actually writing a few Email as we speak :) first one to RPI, since we're using their computer, maybe they'll give us some publicity or what not :)

I saw this on Kickstarter, great idea and they are much smaller than I initially thought so would not cause much trouble up there.

Hey! glad someone found it :) nope the cubesat wold not cause anyone trouble ;)






For those of you who plan to donate with bitcoins, please PM me or write in the thread (and post a TX) if you wanna be on the contribution page!

also! everyone who donates 5 Dollar+ will get their name launched to space with the Cubesat :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 25, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
i opened a ''Sponsor'' thread with various rewards https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190600.0


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: chennan on September 25, 2015, 09:02:09 PM

also! everyone who donates 5 Dollar+ will get their name launched to space with the Cubesat :)

Just five dollars to get your name launched into the orbit? Count me in!  But, I don't really see how that would be possible to write everyones name on the satellite... I would feel you would have probably 200+ names to write on a satellite that doesn't seem that big to begin with.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: achow101 on September 25, 2015, 09:07:23 PM

also! everyone who donates 5 Dollar+ will get their name launched to space with the Cubesat :)

Just five dollars to get your name launched into the orbit? Count me in!  But, I don't really see how that would be possible to write everyones name on the satellite... I would feel you would have probably 200+ names to write on a satellite that doesn't seem that big to begin with.
Write it in 1pt font ;D

Or we could put it in a text file on the raspberry pi.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 25, 2015, 09:08:35 PM
i was actually thinking of a A4 paper, (both sides) and write it really small, but not to small and then just fold it a couple of times ;)!
and as KnightDK said, we could have a text file on the RPI as well, and then broadcast it from space ;)


For those of you who do donate, please post a Tx here and the name you want me to use!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 26, 2015, 09:37:52 AM
I've emailed some companies now, let's see what they say.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Mowcore on September 26, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Apollo 11 landed on the moon on the 20th of July 1969 with less technology then a modern calculator
Apollo 11 never landed on the moon. It was a hoax by USA to outcompete USSR in the space exploration race.

Fuck off , you stupid cunt. Unless that was a joke. If so, it was not funny!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus; Bitcoin node in space.
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on September 26, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
Apollo 11 landed on the moon on the 20th of July 1969 with less technology then a modern calculator
Apollo 11 never landed on the moon. It was a hoax by USA to outcompete USSR in the space exploration race.

Fuck off , you stupid cunt. Unless that was a joke. If so, it was not funny!

he's just trying to get a reaction...



i've updated some rewards in the ''Reward section''
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190600.0


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 01, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
i'm currently looking into alternative cubesat structures !


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 08, 2015, 06:19:59 PM
to the sky ! (BUMP)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 12, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
Looks like we're getting a few backers for this project, hopefully we'll get more soon so wen can acquire the Cubesat structure :)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 14, 2015, 04:50:59 PM
maybe i should set up a Escrow for funds ?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Erkallys on October 14, 2015, 05:01:23 PM
maybe i should set up a Escrow for funds ?

Yeah, most of the Bitcointalk.org user don't trust anyone that receive or send money on the forum until there is an escrow to deal with the funds. So it could be a cool point that could raise people in this project ;) !


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: neurotypical on October 14, 2015, 05:39:51 PM
So is anyone willing to send nodes into space? i think this is the next step in decentralization, it just sounds so good. The only problem would be to keep them updated indeed, so someone should be working on this. Just imagine, floating nodes that can be updated and just float around in earth's orbit. No matter what happens we would have always worldwide nodes available.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Gleb Gamow on October 14, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
So is anyone willing to send nodes into space? i think this is the next step in decentralization, it just sounds so good. The only problem would be to keep them updated indeed, so someone should be working on this. Just imagine, floating nodes that can be updated and just float around in earth's orbit. No matter what happens we would have always worldwide nodes available.

Taking the ideal a step further. NASA could easily enter the financial space (no pun intended) by having an adjunct division place and maintain orbiting cryptocurrency nodes as a service for myriad entities. But, since some feel that NASA may be a bad fit due to them being in the hip pocket of the US government, then the independent space agencies could easily fill the bill, thereby giving them the needed revenue stream to advance their overall endeavor. With this model, you'll have banks competing to give - not loan - money to a financial space program so that they'll have their nodes in place ASAP.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 15, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
I've spoken to Master-P and he's willing to hold escrow! i am also willing to reveal my identity to Master-P to add some to the trust.
what do you guys think about that ?


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 15, 2015, 03:56:49 PM
So is anyone willing to send nodes into space? i think this is the next step in decentralization, it just sounds so good. The only problem would be to keep them updated indeed, so someone should be working on this. Just imagine, floating nodes that can be updated and just float around in earth's orbit. No matter what happens we would have always worldwide nodes available.

yep

http://www.coindesk.com/jeff-garzik-announces-partnership-launch-bitcoin-satellites-space/


@Sakarias-Corporation

just in case you want to recieve money you should reveal your identity to everyone  ;)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: master-P on October 18, 2015, 02:35:07 AM
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I have been asked to be escrow for this crowdfunding project. I have generated an address in cold storage below for those who wish to participate in this project:

1MYFZtN2ZDRUWQSPuMU8k4uk9aspBhc1xP (https://blockchain.info/address/1MYFZtN2ZDRUWQSPuMU8k4uk9aspBhc1xP)

Funds will be held until the full amount is raised then it will be handed to the project manager "Sakarias-Corporation" for purchasing of the goods to purchase the Cubesat structure.

Since this escrow cannot guarantee the project manager would not run away with the funds, the manager has offered to provide his full identity and information to me in case anything happens to help increase confidence.

As long as you understand the risks of this project that the funds are not fully protected by my escrow (due to the nature of the project) then you may go ahead and donate. For any clarification be sure to contact both myself and Sakarias-Corporation.

Escrow by master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294.120

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Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: yayayo on October 18, 2015, 01:34:08 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 18, 2015, 01:40:56 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!

if you read the escrow then you'll know that i will reveal my identity( Passport / Credit card ) or any other evidence that is needed.
and you might wanna read the OP carefully again.
thanks for your feedback :)

note; i do understand that some of you might think that building a satellite is something ''hard'' but in this case you're wrong. thanks to cubesats, literally anyone with access to internet can build them with the right tools. think of it as a Helium ballon of flying objects. easy to manufacture.


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: dothebeats on October 18, 2015, 02:00:30 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!

If you have just read the signed message from the escrow, then you will see that the OP provided his full identification to increase confidence that OP would not run away with the funds. Reading helps a lot. ::)


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: yayayo on October 18, 2015, 02:01:39 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!

if you read the escrow then you'll know that i will reveal my identity( Passport / Credit card ) or any other evidence that is needed.
and you might wanna read the OP carefully again.
thanks for your feedback :)

note; i do understand that some of you might think that building a satellite is something ''hard'' but in this case you're wrong. thanks to cubesats, literally anyone with access to internet can build them with the right tools. think of it as a Helium ballon of flying objects. easy to manufacture.

Even if you reveal your identity to master-P, it doesn't matter much, because you can just declare that the project has failed and leave with the funds. In that case, you can't even be accused of scamming and master-P could expose himself to legal risk if he would reveal your identity. That said, even prominent scammers in the past have provided ID...

If you think that building a cubesat is that easy, then why you haven't provided a detailed design of the sat yet?

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on October 18, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!

if you read the escrow then you'll know that i will reveal my identity( Passport / Credit card ) or any other evidence that is needed.
and you might wanna read the OP carefully again.
thanks for your feedback :)

note; i do understand that some of you might think that building a satellite is something ''hard'' but in this case you're wrong. thanks to cubesats, literally anyone with access to internet can build them with the right tools. think of it as a Helium ballon of flying objects. easy to manufacture.

Even if you reveal your identity to master-P, it doesn't matter much, because you can just declare that the project has failed and leave with the funds. In that case, you can't even be accused of scamming and master-P could expose himself to legal risk if he would reveal your identity. That said, even prominent scammers in the past have provided ID...

If you think that building a cubesat is that easy, then why you haven't provided a detailed design of the sat yet?

ya.ya.yo!

because this is going to be a community built cubesat. if that was the case i could just build it myself, but that would defeat the purpose with this project.
if you would buy the parts for a cubesat, all you actually need to do is just connect the boards, connect the structure, configure the signal and close the cubesat. it's basically that easy


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! ESCROW
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 18, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
That escrow is meaningless, because all the funds will ultimately end up in OP's hands without any control of what will happen next. Op is an anonymous person without any discernible competence for the venture he is promoting. He hasn't even provided a detailed layout of the satellite in question. Regardless he already wants to collect money to buy parts for it.

This smells fishy.

ya.ya.yo!

but it would be at least a more clever scam  :D


Title: Re: Operation Caelus;We will send a bitcoin satellite to space! (Join Us!)
Post by: nightandday on July 02, 2016, 04:06:02 PM
So is anyone willing to send nodes into space? i think this is the next step in decentralization, it just sounds so good. The only problem would be to keep them updated indeed, so someone should be working on this. Just imagine, floating nodes that can be updated and just float around in earth's orbit. No matter what happens we would have always worldwide nodes available.

The only project which has actually begun to bring this to reality is the Nexus Project. We have made real connections with rocket company to send cube sats into space and broadcast crypto blockchains to earth. Its not a fund, ICO or some crowdfund either. Completely organic project just like Satoshi did with bitcoin. Letting the market build the demand. Should be releasing the BBC interview with rocket scientist mentioning Nexus on BBC Business Live as well. Keep updated on the thread, twitter, facebook and slack

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657601.new#new