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Hi. Couple days ago i make new account,becouse i sell my last.
I saw people attack BiPolar call him scammer or quickseller other acc.
I this is not true and i defend BiPolar in this thread.
Dont post a lot becouse i dont have time for it.
And this guy first give me neutral trust and after PM he gave me red trust.
Why he is abusing trust system wtf?
https://i.gyazo.com/c952a8a99579d9f035019d50daac2386.png

TomatoCage give ABitNut postitive feeback,,
And ABitNut give him:
 https://i.gyazo.com/90ec04ef5734a47b1462be82957e597c.png

that does not has any relation with you and he has given that trust basing on facts and not emotions,search threads for proof.
also a neutral feedback is not abuse.

Since the trust does not influence your overall score, I wouldn't consider it to be trust abuse.
If ABitNut doesn't trust you, he will put down some negative feedback for you. It is irrelevant whether you feel that this is justified or not.

Pretty much this right here. The only time the community gets involved is if the person leaving negative trust is in the default trust network. People in DT are held accountable for their ratings since they carry extra weight.

read my post one more time...

Couple days ago? You created the BonusGame account August 30th. You made a single post on that day. When BiPolarBob got himself involved in some drama you suddenly started posting (september 15th). When the dust settled down 2 days later you stopped posting. Your only posts have been on related to BiPolarBob. I find your behaviour suspicious.

I waited some time to see if you'd be active in different parts, but after September 20th you didn't log in for 2 days. So I decided to tickle you a bit and leave the negative follow-up feedback. And in less than 2 hours you've somehow noticed my feedback. Could you explain how you managed to not log in but still are be so aware of when feedback gets added to your account?

Things smell fishy.


PS. I would have appreciated it if you'd have sent me a pm with a link to this topic instead of waiting for me to find it by myself.
PS 2. Not that anyone questioned them, but the 2 personal messages in the screenshot are correct.

Yes i create Bonus becouse i want join to LB contest.
Before that I use other account. When i sell my account i back to this:]
And you are next detective or what?
PS: No , i dont need to send u pm about it. Check my PM's again.
I dont want to make this post but you want this.
PS2. I really dont care.
PS3:Check your feedback... You really abusing trust system.

took a quick look. this impartial observer's opinion: the post history definitely makes the account look like someone's alt account. the ratio of shill posts: any other posts is very high. shill alt account. book it.

A took a quick look too. The post history definietly makes your account look like alt account. First 4 post is about giveaway. Even if you have a lot post's, 90% of your post is spam.
I really dont care about your opinion.
BTW:check your first 3 posts on forum :)
https://i.gyazo.com/29ff9f8cf9e17597bca0ea8d19c6e810.png

I look again in your posts. First 2 sites with new post's looking ok only 10% spam.
But check 11 old sites of your post's. +90% is about giveaway.
99% post's don't have more than 10 words.
You'r account is alt with really really low post rating's.
https://i.gyazo.com/f17aeff00d01f0c4da65be85a2355c49.png
https://i.gyazo.com/6ecaa6d206435d0e002877ed795172e1.png
https://i.gyazo.com/3c780dd4c65d433958eee64f0a327fc7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/892ac3c392deb2beca472a08d51828ea.png

No, you are being hardcore judgemental now.
many people make new accounts just to abuse giveaways or prizes,also eople just pamper BOB because he does givaways..
it looks a bit suspicious but proves nothing.

Hi.
I know people make accounts to abuse giveaways or prizes, but i dont make it. If you look into my 1 post u can see LB contest. You can use other account's to join this contest thats why i create this account to get more chance on this contest(In rules you have point,that u can use other accounts that mean i dont break any rules).  
And i defend bipolar becouse i know him and i trade with him a lot(not free giveaways, and i know he is not quickseller.)
And you write true about ABitNut. He is really good in "hardcore judgemental"

why the hell would you say that ? unless you are BOB or QS so that you have a proof of different personalities.
yes you are pampering him for giveaways .. i too think that BOB is QS's alt'.

Ok and again. "yes you are pampering him for giveaways .." wow this is hardcore judgement. You have any proof?
You have any proof that bipolar=qs?(becouse proof's in thread againts him mean nothing and dont show nothing).
And i still dont understand how people can attack bipolar without any proof.
And why u judge people without proof?

cool story. what's me posting in some giveaway threads in 2013, or posting in OT, have to do with you being a shill account? are you accusing me of shilling----if so, who was i shilling? every post from you (post #2 onward) is shilling Bob, then trashing Vod. that was the subject.

But 90% or even 95% of your posts is spam with couple words(Of course you do that to get payment from signature campaign). Btw: just check SS. You have spam posts from 2013 year and from 2015 too. You still spamming nonsense
Cool story becouse you attack people and your account look like alt account. Really you should write here becouse you are just spammer and signature campaign abuser with nonsense posts.
I just wonder who alt are you.

I'm guessing that you didn't make this thread in order to accuse people of being alts of others. The judgement of you being a shill is completely valid according to the proof said by other members. If all you are going to use this thread for is to try and call out members for being alts of others, I would suggest creating a new thread more appropriately titled.
Trying to suggest that entering giveaways during your early days on the forum makes you a shill is stupid. Look at my post history, back in 2013 I would only use this account to enter giveaways. Does this mean I am a shill/alt account? Not in any way.

I really don't understand why an insubstantial feedback is bothering you so much, especially since you said that you only created this account to enter a LuckyBit contest.

i take exception with your characterization. anyone is free to look through my post history. if i posted a lot in the off-topic forum (and secondarily in giveaway threads), that is not against any rules. i am not a shill, and that is very obvious.

and it is not relevant to the fact that most of your post history is shilling one user: bob (and secondarily attacking vod)

if i'm an alt, you could never figure it out. because i don't shill people like you.

I just defend guy becouse u attack him without any fucking reason or evidence. This is not shill.
But you will dont understand this, too much spam in your head.
Just look on your posts. 100 % this account is alt make only for money.
First 4 posts are giveaway with adress?
And please dont spam more in my thread to get pay from signature campaign(btw:will send them post about your spam).

shill becouse i defend guy who is attacking without any proof or reason?
If you like to attack random people withour any evidence go a head.

i didn't attack Bob. someone called you a shill and i agreed that most of your posts were shilling one person. that is true and i stand behind that statement.

my original post in this thread was completely on-topic. you then went on a childish tirade claiming that my posts are of low quality, so i responded. this is not spam. lol, go ahead and tell Bitmixer. he won't care. i would be over the 50 max posts paid anyway.

if you think my priority is to spam for money, why would i be in Bitmixer's campaign for 0.0007 per post? they pay much less than most campaigns. i support what they do and would rather advertise them than generic gambling sites or ponzi scams.

I stand behind my statement too: You came here only to attack me without any reason, and you are not good guy becouse your posts are really low quality.
I dont care what they will do.
You call my account shill becouse i defend bob. And how i should call your account? If you only spam in giveaways and now you post in my thread ?
And of course your account is alt. You make 40 posts in 36h:D And no it is not spam.

i didn't come here to attack you. you made a thread, i read it. i was compelled to respond. your opinion about post quality doesn't say anything about whether someone is a "good guy."

i don't spam. i certainly don't post only in giveaways and in your thread. anyone is free to peruse my post history to see that.

notice how you neglected to screenshot these "40 posts in 36h" this time. because you know they aren't spam.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136484;sa=showPosts

you keep saying "of course your account is alt." whose alt am i? or do you just like to throw around baseless insults, when you have no evidence?

again, attacking my "post quality" does not address whether or not you are a shill.

Anyone can check you post history. This is true you lasts posts is longers. But still non sense only to make more posts and activity.
You spam really hard why u can't say true ?
You can call me shilly i really dont care if spammer say this word's.

I really make it becouse " you agreed my feedback was accurate" No i make it becouse you make nonsens post's.
And for me you act like child. I only defend guy who is attacked without any evidence or proof.
And im not crying i just make this thread becouse he is abusing trust system.

i urge anyone bored enough to be reading this: please compare my posts with BonusGame, and come to your own conclusion about who is posting "nonsense." ::)

like i said---not trust abuse. the feedback was accurate.

People can just check you posts history. And come to own conclusion about spamming for signature campaign with nonsense posts.
And again WHY I SHOULD CARE WHAT SPAMMER SAY?
You are not some trusted user to say that. You are guy with really really low quality of posts.
Maybe for you this is not trust abusing becouse spam is not spam for you:D

People are too bored. Why all this drama over some feedback?


I took a step back and re-evaluated the situation. It seems communication issue cloud the whole discussion. Fact is that Bonusgame basicly only posted on one subject. I still feel strongly that the account is shady, but I guess it could be just an alt to participate multiple times in a single giveaway; their defending Bob is because they don't want to lose their freebies.

I partially posted the negative to elicit a response. While I don't like the way they responded there have been no obvious alts involved. I'm removing the negative. Also I'm out of this mini-drama with renewed respect for users on DT dealing with similar stuff all the time.

Edit:
Oh, and the irony of trust abuse. Go look in the mirror, BonusGame.

Again you are wrong. I dont make this alt to partcipate multiple times to single giveaway. I make it to particpate in CONTEST. And in rules was points that people can use more accounts. That mean i dont break rules.
And as this guy write you hardcore judgemental everybody. Mr.Judge haha." their defending Bob is because they don't want to lose their freebies." <--know everything about everybody.

So you did participate with multiple accounts in a single "contest"? And you do control multiple accounst? Because that's what you're implying here. Note that I did not make any judgement on you doing that. And you don't want Bob to stop their giveaways, now do you? And I don't see you post about any contest in your post history. Please correct me if I'm wrong using some evidence.

PS. I find your "tone" aggravating and ask you to change it.

No i just create this account to participate this contest. This is not agains rules. You make judgement even other guys tell you that. If you read my post, you will know i dont care about his giveaway. I make nice deal with him and i know he is legit guy. And u attack him without any proof.
And now you talking about aggravating tone??? And what i should write about you? lol
Here you have this contest
https://i.gyazo.com/a38e05d029ee8717305d6c7f81194dba.png

tbh, and i hate that i let it happen....but i let this guy attacking me get to me. first i responded to his attacks on my "post quality." ::) then to his attempts to get me kicked out of my signature campaign. then he neg trusted me from multiple accounts and accused me of being another alt (which i am not).

so i said "fuck it. i'm gonna prove this guy is a scammer." and i did: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1189843.msg12515122#msg12515122

You are really master of troll:D i attack you first ? fucking intresting:D
I am scammer becouse guy earn 3 times more on this loan:D
 Learn what is fucking scam:D and show me who lost money ???
And maybe i create new account to give you red trust? LOL
Where i attempts that i will kick you from campaign? I just tell you are spammer with really low quality post's and i must tell OP from signature about it. And i dont care what he will do.
And again greetings to you Candy. Soon you will get more red trust from your enemy not from my alt's dont worry..
You dont prove fucking nothing.

Sorry, BonusGame. You lost. I'm sure you'll try again with another account.

I dont need to make new account. Even abuser like you dont change it :)

I think I (tried to) handle the situation in a mature way. You're the abusive one. Now that you've admitted you're an alt of BitcoinBoss666 it's painfully clear that you're an hypocrite.

I consider this case closed now.

In mature way ???? thats why u give feedback without proof?(who is hypocrite)
Im not hypocrite. If you dont know what is scam and collateral read again.

Ah this is off topic and there's a different thread about your loan scam already. But since this topic is done I'll indulge you...

You don't seem to understand the concepts "loan" and "collateral".

Let me help you out:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/loan
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/collateral
http://banking.about.com/od/loans/a/definecollateral.htm

Having a collateral does not mean it's ok for you not to pay back the loan.

It is ok. He earn 3 times more on loan that mean it is ok. And i really dont care what u think:)

I disagree. It's not ok to default on a loan.

And you sure post here a lot for someone who doesn't care.