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Title: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 16, 2012, 08:47:29 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati, who started many of the world's revolutions.
If we can prove that there is no consistency among the communications of Nakamoto, we can prove that Bitcoin's first implementation is the work of many anonymous individuals. People have said that Satoshi Nakamoto has been very hard to communicate with. The software has been said to be beyond the work of one person. Let's settle this once and for all. Update: http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: hazek on October 16, 2012, 08:51:41 PM Let's settle this once and for all. Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Nicolai Larsen on October 16, 2012, 08:52:55 PM Let's settle this once and for all. Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter? Jobs? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 16, 2012, 08:53:48 PM Let's settle this once and for all. Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter? For history's sake. Historians make a living at this kind of thing. Hmm, Hazek, you wouldn't happen to be associated with Satoshi Nakamoto, would you? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 16, 2012, 08:58:01 PM Let's settle this once and for all. Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter? Irrelevant and pointless. A human doesn't need a reason to know the truth. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: ElectricMucus on October 16, 2012, 08:58:14 PM The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches.
But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 16, 2012, 09:01:23 PM The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches. But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people. It's the 3rd time u mention that Satoshi = Casascius. I got why u do it. U try to hide that Satoshi is YOU! Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: ElectricMucus on October 16, 2012, 09:03:05 PM The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches. But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people. It's the 3rd time u mention that Satoshi = Casascius. I got why u do it. U try to hide that Satoshi is YOU! That would be really nice if it were true :) Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: robocoin on October 16, 2012, 09:06:35 PM I thought Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for more than one person. I just don't think you can do a simple semantic equation with 'his' writings to find true similarities. I wouldn't expect that from top cryptographers.
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: sturle on October 16, 2012, 09:08:50 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? Writing analysis is remarkably easy to cheat. The easiest way is to impersonate someone else's writing style. E.g. some author or journalist.Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 16, 2012, 09:17:15 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 16, 2012, 09:33:58 PM The analysis first must answer is Satoshi a single person or group. Or probably group that used only single spokesperson. As far as I know only Seppuku Fujitsu used Satoshi's identity to communicate.
Quote The software has been said to be beyond the work of one person. Not all programmers are noobs. The original client is very well written but I have seen even more impressive code made by single person.Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 16, 2012, 09:42:38 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Richy_T on October 16, 2012, 09:49:32 PM For history's sake. Historians make a living at this kind of thing. Historians make a living a)Teaching new historians and 2)Selling cars and real estate. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 16, 2012, 09:52:44 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now. http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened Quote I started with some amateur textual analysis of Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin paper, extracting fragments of phrases and running them through Google. I figured I'd see if any of the ones in the paper appear elsewhere online. People tend to repeat themselves. The trick is to plug in unique-sounding fragments and place them in quotes. That way you only get a handful of results to comb through. I struck out on the first few, which all appeared solely in the Bitcoin paper, and there was one irrelevant link. Then I tried the term "computationally impractical to reverse." It resulted in 26 results... EDIT: ...and some info here - http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 16, 2012, 09:53:30 PM How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now. http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened Quote I started with some amateur textual analysis of Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin paper, extracting fragments of phrases and running them through Google. I figured I'd see if any of the ones in the paper appear elsewhere online. People tend to repeat themselves. The trick is to plug in unique-sounding fragments and place them in quotes. That way you only get a handful of results to comb through. I struck out on the first few, which all appeared solely in the Bitcoin paper, and there was one irrelevant link. Then I tried the term "computationally impractical to reverse." It resulted in 26 results... Wooo. Thanks! Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Boussac on October 16, 2012, 10:33:17 PM Limechat is a well known IRC client, especially on iOS.
Many devs in the core team use a Mac to code and communicate via IRC. The publisher of Limechat is a developper named Satoshi Nakagawa. Any other question ? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 17, 2012, 12:29:50 AM Casascius is a reasonable person but I probably remember that moronic Bitcoin 2.0 proposal too. Such scamcoin 2.0 proposals pop up from time to time but for most part they are a result of spending too many bitcoins on Silk Road weed, not attempt to hide who is Satoshi.
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Portnoy on October 17, 2012, 01:06:25 AM I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati, who started many of the world's revolutions... Ooookay... ::) Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: bg002h on October 17, 2012, 02:03:21 AM The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches. But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people. I remember a thread Casascius started, way back when, about his idea for Bitcoin 2.0 (because of the early adopter having too many easily gained Bitcoins). His idea had something to do with the block reward being based on difficulty, and you would be able to convert your Bitcoins into Bitcoin 2.0 by destroying them. The early low difficulty coins would exchange for fewer Bitcoin 2.0 and the later high difficulty coins would exchange for more. This is all going from memory, apologies if I made a mistake somewhere. Anyway, I suppose his motive for making such a suggestion and being so adamant about it (at the time) was to help hide his identity? I also remember when he quit Bitcoin because of perceived conflicts with his profession (something about handling payrolls). I guess that was a clever ruse as well! Edit: It wasn't Bitcoin 2.0, it was something like Bitcoin+. I don't think Mike is Satoshi...lol. Mike is a guy with a well known full name and address. Sure, he's clever, but clearly we have lots of clever folks in our community and we don't think them all to be Satoshi. Also, I presume Satoshi is rich. If Mike were rich, he would hire people to write his code :) Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: justusranvier on October 17, 2012, 02:05:31 AM If there's an off-the-shelf tool that is capable of doing this kind of analysis it's probably CRM114 (http://crm114.sourceforge.net/).
Use the posts from this forum as a dataset and train using the posts from the time that Satoshi was still active, then filter recent posters to see if any of them match his writing style with a high probability. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: theymos on October 17, 2012, 02:49:55 AM I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati, who started many of the world's revolutions. I wouldn't be too surprised if that was the case, but I still think that Satoshi is one person, and I don't think he's still on the forum. I think: - Satoshi is a quiet person who watched the cypherpunk scene, but didn't participate much. - The idea for Bitcoin came to him spontaneously. (The idea is innovative, but not that complex -- it requires only pulling together many existing technologies.) - He was very familiar with C++ syntax, but the original code was pretty inelegant in places. The ideas were more elegant. Maybe he had never done much large-scale programming before -- he might be in academia. - He found the problem and associated P2P issues very interesting, so he spent a lot of time putting Bitcoin together. - He expected at the start that he would remain interested in Bitcoin for a long time and would continue to lead the project, but in the end he found himself becoming bored with the whole thing. Maybe he found other interesting things he'd rather be doing. So he gradually stopped working with Bitcoin and set up Gavin to be his successor. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: ralree on October 17, 2012, 04:33:59 AM I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote This makes these hybrid bloodlines, what I call the Illuminati bloodlines that manipulate the global political, financial, media, military etc. system, far easier for the Reptilians to ‘possess’ and forge a strong mental, ‘emotional’ and ‘physical’ connection, than with the general population. http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/38830-possession-is-no-myth-its-rampantThe vibrational compatibility is such that the Reptilian entities ‘wear’ these human hybrids as little more than a vehicle to hide within human society without the people having a clue what is going on. It is worth remembering this when you see people like the Bushes, Obama, Kissinger, Blair and leading hybrid families like the Rockefellers, House of Windsor and, especially, the House of Rothschild. Illuminati debunked 1.1. Adam Weishaupt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_H1Tytzyk Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: BlackHeartFund on October 17, 2012, 05:17:30 AM Quote Bavarian Illuminati Interesting topic but this made me stop reading. Atlas does raise a lot of interesting questions, too bad he's a bit of an idiot and lunatic. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 17, 2012, 05:19:05 AM Quote Bavarian Illuminati Interesting topic but this made me stop reading. Atlas does raise a lot of interesting questions, too bad he's a bit of an idiot and lunatic. The organization certainly existed. Secret societies have certainly existed. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: BlackHeartFund on October 17, 2012, 05:30:17 AM And they still control the world! And you know which ones are doing what because you are so brilliant! If only everyone else wasn't so stupid we could see that you know everything and stop listen to you and save the world!!!
The open and obvious world domination by corporations and international finance that control the world's armies and police forces are simply smoke screens for 500 year old secret societies that really run things from underground lairs! And you're on to them!!! lmao If I put someone on ignore, do I still see the threads they start? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Atlas on October 17, 2012, 05:34:53 AM And they still control the world! And you know which ones are doing what because you are so brilliant! If only everyone else wasn't so stupid we could see that you know everything and stop listen to you and save the world!!! The open and obvious world domination by corporations and international finance that control the world's armies and police forces are simply smoke screens for 500 year old secret societies that really run things from underground lairs! And you're on to them!!! lmao If I put someone on ignore, do I still see the threads they start? I never stated nor implied any of that. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: BlackHeartFund on October 17, 2012, 01:32:14 PM Quote Bavarian Illuminati Interesting topic but this made me stop reading. Atlas does raise a lot of interesting questions, too bad he's a bit of an idiot and lunatic. Seems like a pretty hard-line stance you've got there. If you switch off every time some "non-mainstream" topic is raised, how will you ever know if for example, as a child you were incorrectly taught that 2+2=5? There is quite a large difference between "non-mainstream" and "fucking crazy conspiracy theorist making shit up and wasting people's time". Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Isokivi on October 17, 2012, 01:41:51 PM I would (once again) like to take the opportunity to state that I am Satoshi Nakamoto.
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Raoul Duke on October 17, 2012, 01:55:20 PM I would (once again) like to take the opportunity to state that I am Satoshi Nakamoto. No, you're not. Satoshi is my cat. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: guruvan on October 17, 2012, 02:49:13 PM Not to belittle Satoshi, it certainly seems that the level of knowledge required to conceive of Bitcoin may have been beyond a single person.
The code itself may have been written a single person, Satoshi, though I do seem to recall some posts from Satoshi that may have suggested that he'd gone back to his team and requested clarification before responding to others' posts. It definitely seems that there was 1 single person writing under the Satoshi pseudonym. IMO, the writing style is the same throughout his posts. It also strikes me, that a well-funded group that wanted to produce something like Bitcoin anonymously, and participate in development publicly, they might also devise or purchase software to normalize multiple persons' writings into a single style. (that's what I'd do if I was trying to hide) It's somewhat easy to spot similar misspellings, syntactical choices, and colourful phrases to determine if writings are the same between multiple identities. Truly, it's not mattered enough to me to look through others' posts on the forums to see if someone is a hiding Satoshi. Of course, if he is, indeed, a group, it must be the Bavarian Illuminati. Nothing else makes sense. ::) (maybe he's an agent for SWIFT) XD Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: paulie_w on October 17, 2012, 03:27:20 PM guys, the person who created bitcoin is probably Jed McCaleb, who was also the co-founder of mt gox and the creator of edonkey. a quiet guy with the right skillset (experience making native apps and non-traditional, distributed networks). he is probably one of the smartest, most interesting internet developers that nobody has ever really heard of.
do a writing analysis against him, if you must. but probably a dude that smart would have run his writing through a de-personalizer. i've seen jacob appelbaum talk about those things. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: jtimon on October 18, 2012, 02:53:08 PM guys, the person who created bitcoin is probably Jed McCaleb, who was also the co-founder of mt gox and the creator of edonkey. a quiet guy with the right skillset (experience making native apps and non-traditional, distributed networks). he is probably one of the smartest, most interesting internet developers that nobody has ever really heard of. +1 Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 18, 2012, 03:39:13 PM guys, the person who created bitcoin is probably Jed McCaleb, who was also the co-founder of mt gox and the creator of edonkey. a quiet guy with the right skillset (experience making native apps and non-traditional, distributed networks). he is probably one of the smartest, most interesting internet developers that nobody has ever really heard of. do a writing analysis against him, if you must. but probably a dude that smart would have run his writing through a de-personalizer. i've seen jacob appelbaum talk about those things. Keep talking. Remember when Jed McCaleb announced after the hack that he desired to give up the reins to Mt Gox and the first one to reply was Mark Karpeles with, "I'll take it!" (paraphrased), whereupon the next response from Jeb was, "Great! Settled then." (paraphrased) Of course all this transpired months after the registered of bitcoinfoundation.com/net/org Created on 2010-12-06 21:40:48 by Mark Karpeles who somehow had the foresight to envision that such an entity may be needed in the future and he would play a major part of the thing if only...only...only...he had an exchange. ~Bruno~ Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: guruvan on October 18, 2012, 04:22:39 PM guys, the person who created bitcoin is probably Jed McCaleb, who was also the co-founder of mt gox and the creator of edonkey. a quiet guy with the right skillset (experience making native apps and non-traditional, distributed networks). he is probably one of the smartest, most interesting internet developers that nobody has ever really heard of. do a writing analysis against him, if you must. but probably a dude that smart would have run his writing through a de-personalizer. i've seen jacob appelbaum talk about those things. Yeah. I didn't know what to call one, but I'm aware there is some software like this. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: jtimon on October 18, 2012, 05:41:56 PM I would rather investigate the forum looking for conversations involving "both" Satoshi and Jed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5322) McCaleb. Oldminer and Thomas Nasatokyo "were" discovered fast and talking with himself was actually big mistake.
I expect our current suspect to me much smarter but I would look closely to those threads if they exists. And I would take the nonexistence of such a dialogue as a circumstantial evidence that they're one and the same person. Hmmm, the original creator of the most important exchange only has only 105 posts? I'm confused, didn't he has a previous account here? EDIT: Also, read this sentence carefully... We aren't ready to release details of the project but it should be world changing. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108782.0) Hmmm. Both Jed and Satoshi just leave this genius idea to "work on another project"? I wonder what could be motivating enough after creating bitcoin...maybe a world changing project? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Elwar on October 18, 2012, 07:53:26 PM Quote Bavarian Illuminati Interesting topic but this made me stop reading. Atlas does raise a lot of interesting questions, too bad he's a bit of an idiot and lunatic. Seems like a pretty hard-line stance you've got there. If you switch off every time some "non-mainstream" topic is raised, how will you ever know if for example, as a child you were incorrectly taught that 2+2=5? x = y -x2= -xy x2 - y2 = x2 - xy (x + y)(x - y) = x(x - y) x + x = y 2 + 2 = 5 Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 18, 2012, 08:28:54 PM x = y -x2= -xy x2 - y2 = x2 - xy (x + y)(x - y) = x(x - y) x + x = y 2 + 2 = 5 Division by zero. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: ElectricMucus on October 18, 2012, 08:31:37 PM x = y -x2= -xy x2 - y2 = x2 - xy (x + y)(x - y) = x(x - y) x + x = y 2 + 2 = 5 Division by zero. oh shi.. http://www.nachi.org/images10/Guatemala-Sinkhole.jpg Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Richy_T on October 19, 2012, 12:48:44 AM Hmmm. Both Jed and Satoshi just leave this genius idea to "work on another project"? I wonder what could be motivating enough after creating bitcoin...maybe a world changing project? Bitcoin 2.0. With rounded edges and shading. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: organofcorti on October 19, 2012, 12:52:54 AM Hmmm. Both Jed and Satoshi just leave this genius idea to "work on another project"? I wonder what could be motivating enough after creating bitcoin...maybe a world changing project? Bitcoin 2.0. With rounded edges and shading. And obligatory javascript. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: marcus_of_augustus on October 19, 2012, 04:48:47 AM Have to confess that curiosity got the better of me one day a ways back and I did do a little sleuthing of my own .... after joining some dots here, colouring in between the lines there, tapping the networks, dabbling a little in the digital black arts, ouija boards ... to cut a long story short I think I have pretty good idea who satoshi (the bitcoin coder) was. It is one of those answers that when you are presented with it you will want to slap your forehead, hard, and go "doh! why did I not think of that" ... not obvious but hiding in plain sight in retrospect.
So while I have a pretty good idea, some tenuous facts, shaky reasoning, I can not unfortunately reveal who I think satoshi is, since they have made it clear they wish to remain anonymous and indeed advocate for net privacy in many other fields also (clue). And I respect these efforts immensely. However, ultimately it is a free market of ideas and if donations/pledges of a suitably large enough BTC amount be made I would probably reveal what I know to be true and let the private chips and data trails fall where they may, so to speak. ;) Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 19, 2012, 06:35:43 AM However, ultimately it is a free market of ideas and if donations/pledges of a suitably large enough BTC amount be made I would probably reveal what I know to be true and let the private chips and data trails fall where they may, so to speak. ;) That was a bad idea to talk about it. Now they have to make sure u will never be able to reveal their identity. The only option u have is to do it right now... ;D Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Etlase2 on October 19, 2012, 01:05:36 PM So while I have a pretty good idea, some tenuous facts, shaky reasoning, I can not unfortunately reveal who I think satoshi is, since they have made it clear they wish to remain anonymous and indeed advocate for net privacy in many other fields also (clue). And I respect these efforts immensely. I think you started that thread in off-topic too right? If this is all you have, then your guess appears to be no better than the michael clear stuff or the 3 guys that wrote some crypto patents. But IIRC you said in the thread that it was someone who posted here, which I mentioned narrows it down to just a few people who go by their real names or have them public... Besides, if you found it, someone else will, it's not like it will stay hidden forever. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: marcus_of_augustus on October 19, 2012, 08:40:14 PM So while I have a pretty good idea, some tenuous facts, shaky reasoning, I can not unfortunately reveal who I think satoshi is, since they have made it clear they wish to remain anonymous and indeed advocate for net privacy in many other fields also (clue). And I respect these efforts immensely. I think you started that thread in off-topic too right? If this is all you have, then your guess appears to be no better than the michael clear stuff or the 3 guys that wrote some crypto patents. But IIRC you said in the thread that it was someone who posted here, which I mentioned narrows it down to just a few people who go by their real names or have them public... Besides, if you found it, someone else will, it's not like it will stay hidden forever. No, I don't recall starting any threads in Off-Topic or elsewhere regarding satoshi's identity. In fact, I'm pretty sure this is the first post anywhere I have ever stated anything seriously on the matter. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Etlase2 on October 19, 2012, 08:42:43 PM Ah, apologies, made the assumption because your post sounded similar. It is here for the curious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103611.0
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 20, 2012, 11:43:03 PM After manually looking for almost whole day to Casascius writings and actions he might indeed be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. The technical skills and psychological portrait are near match. So next time I stuck a Casascius physical Bitcoin in girl's asshole I might be handling a piece made by Satoshi himself! Seriously! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118715.msg1276367#msg1276367
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 21, 2012, 01:23:53 AM Casascius is not satoshi. The writing styles are SIMILAR, but not matching.
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 21, 2012, 01:42:45 AM Quote Casascius is not satoshi. The writing styles are SIMILAR, but not matching. If I would try to seriously hide my identity from beginning, I would not only alter my writing style but also start arguing with my other profiles. I do this all the time elsewhere and it works great! :D I understand English quite a good but the English language itself is somewhat limited in both grammar, vocabulary and in means of expression. This reduces entropy and all writings appear somewhat similar. In comparison my native language is considered one of the most complex and oldest languages still used in world and when reading large enough sample the writer can be manually identified with great likelihood. Take a look on actions, the diversity of actions and try to imagine the man behind that. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 21, 2012, 06:53:02 AM In comparison my native language is considered one of the most complex and oldest languages still used in world... What this language is? Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Polvos on October 21, 2012, 09:33:20 AM In comparison my native language is considered one of the most complex and oldest languages still used in world... What this language is? With the latin alphabet I vote for hungarian. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 21, 2012, 11:13:17 AM In comparison my native language is considered one of the most complex and oldest languages still used in world... What this language is? With the latin alphabet I vote for hungarian. After analyzing his usage of commas I vote for Russian. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Este Nuno on October 21, 2012, 12:05:32 PM +1 for Russian
Don't leave us hanging :P Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: organofcorti on October 21, 2012, 12:08:51 PM If by "oldest" you mean least recently changed, then Basque, Hungarian or Finnish if Indo-European. Or maybe Hindi?
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 21, 2012, 02:41:24 PM I am Latvian.
Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 21, 2012, 03:29:04 PM I am Latvian. It still doesn't give an answer regarding the language. Latvia is an ex-USSR country, so it can be Russian or Latvian. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: MysteryMiner on October 21, 2012, 04:18:54 PM I am Latvian. It still doesn't give an answer regarding the language. Latvia is an ex-USSR country, so it can be Russian or Latvian. Title: Re: Writing analysis on Satoshi Nakamoto. Post by: bg002h on October 21, 2012, 11:37:50 PM I am Latvian. It still doesn't give an answer regarding the language. Latvia is an ex-USSR country, so it can be Russian or Latvian. This sounds like a very interesting country. Perhaps a vacation trip would be fun...someday...any recommendations? ...wow...that's really off topic. |
