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Economy => Goods => Topic started by: codishmumu on September 30, 2015, 11:51:27 PM



Title: Closed! <3
Post by: codishmumu on September 30, 2015, 11:51:27 PM
This thread is officially closed. To people that were linked here from my thread in the BTC forum, just read through the thread if you want to really know how to provide some kind of distinct indication that items you sell on websites are 100% yours, and legitimate. A transaction was actually made in this thread if you go to page 3.


Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 01, 2015, 11:11:45 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.



Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: codishmumu on October 01, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Like I said, it really isn't like I'm about to spend hours knitting a sweater, then spend another two hours ebroiding the bitcoin symbol on it.

I wanna know if people like the concept of it first. Not if they'd think I made the products well. In all honesty, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm asking a question, but no one can answer it.

It's a yes or no question. Would that actually be interesting to any of you?


Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 01, 2015, 11:21:53 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Like I said, it really isn't like I'm about to spend hours knitting a sweater, then spend another two hours ebroiding the bitcoin symbol on it.

I wanna know if people like the concept of it first. Not if they'd think I made the products well. In all honesty, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm asking a question, but no one can answer it.

It's a yes or no question. Would that actually be interesting to any of you?
Me, yes but no more than 1 necklace honestly and it depends on price.


Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: codishmumu on October 01, 2015, 11:26:10 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Like I said, it really isn't like I'm about to spend hours knitting a sweater, then spend another two hours ebroiding the bitcoin symbol on it.

I wanna know if people like the concept of it first. Not if they'd think I made the products well. In all honesty, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm asking a question, but no one can answer it.

It's a yes or no question. Would that actually be interesting to any of you?
Me, yes but no more than 1 necklace honestly and it depends on price.
Name your ideal price, style, color and design.


Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 01, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Like I said, it really isn't like I'm about to spend hours knitting a sweater, then spend another two hours ebroiding the bitcoin symbol on it.

I wanna know if people like the concept of it first. Not if they'd think I made the products well. In all honesty, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm asking a question, but no one can answer it.

It's a yes or no question. Would that actually be interesting to any of you?
Me, yes but no more than 1 necklace honestly and it depends on price.
Name your ideal price, style, color and design.
What type of materials do you have access to? I would want a simple necklace for the misses. Color would be red. Also my budget is around $25 (not trying to insult you with my small budget) if this is feasable lmk


Title: Re: Quick question before I go....
Post by: codishmumu on October 01, 2015, 11:53:05 PM
If I produced handmade one of a kind bitcoin related merchandise, such as bitcoin symbol necklaces and knitted sweaters with the bitcoin symbol embroided onto them, would any of you actually be interested in them?

You should make a sample of something easy for you but that can show off your talent.  It's hard to sell someone something without showing them a demo at least imho. I am currently in your same boat just a different niche and I feel I wont get much attention until people can see what I can offer them. Just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Like I said, it really isn't like I'm about to spend hours knitting a sweater, then spend another two hours ebroiding the bitcoin symbol on it.

I wanna know if people like the concept of it first. Not if they'd think I made the products well. In all honesty, that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm asking a question, but no one can answer it.

It's a yes or no question. Would that actually be interesting to any of you?
Me, yes but no more than 1 necklace honestly and it depends on price.
Name your ideal price, style, color and design.
What type of materials do you have access to? I would want a simple necklace for the misses. Color would be red. Also my budget is around $25 (not trying to insult you with my small budget) if this is feasable lmk
No, that's not an insult at all!

I can also make matching earrings for her! It'll be a statement necklace then, instead of a choker or a pendant.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 01, 2015, 11:57:08 PM
Sounds good to me. What length would the necklace be and made from what materials?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 12:10:19 AM
Sounds good to me. What length would the necklace be and made from what materials?
It would be 20 inches long. Right now, I only have semi gold plated chains. No silver at the moment. The actual gems will be painted rhinestones/acrylic gems with the bitcoin symbol hand painted on each gem. There will be about 7 on the necklace.

Also, all I have right now in design in chains is this type

http://ak-mobile.ostkcdn.com/images/products/6561587/79/96/Fremada-10kt-Yellow-Gold-3.6-mm-Curb-Link-Chain-P14139895.jpg


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 12:14:58 AM
Sounds good to me. What length would the necklace be and made from what materials?
It would be 20 inches long. Right now, I only have semi gold plated chains. No silver at the moment. The actual gems will be painted rhinestones/acrylic gems with the bitcoin symbol hand painted on each gem. There will be about 7 on the necklace.

Also, all I have right now in design in chains is this type

http://ak-mobile.ostkcdn.com/images/products/6561587/79/96/Fremada-10kt-Yellow-Gold-3.6-mm-Curb-Link-Chain-P14139895.jpg
I will bite. Whats the cost gonna be shipped to sunny south florida?
Also would you escrow?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 01:03:05 AM
Sounds good to me. What length would the necklace be and made from what materials?
It would be 20 inches long. Right now, I only have semi gold plated chains. No silver at the moment. The actual gems will be painted rhinestones/acrylic gems with the bitcoin symbol hand painted on each gem. There will be about 7 on the necklace.

Also, all I have right now in design in chains is this type

http://ak-mobile.ostkcdn.com/images/products/6561587/79/96/Fremada-10kt-Yellow-Gold-3.6-mm-Curb-Link-Chain-P14139895.jpg
I will bite. Whats the cost gonna be shipped to sunny south florida?
Also would you escrow?
5 dollars.

And yeah, I would. Let me show you what the necklace would look like.

It will look like this. The only difference is it will have one more gem in the middle, and it'll have the bitcoin symbol instead of the cheetah prints I painted on them.

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0023_zpsrx7p9rus.jpg

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0024_zpsqixabqtj.jpg

I'll take a pic of myself with it, so you know I made it, and I'm not taking somebody else's hard work.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 01:05:05 AM
What I meant was how much total with shipping.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 01:06:40 AM
What I meant was how much total with shipping.
$30.

You said 25 was the limit for you on a handmade necklace.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 01:18:15 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 01:28:55 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.
Great. I'll work on it now, and finish it in the morning. Since it's only one necklace, it shouldn't take too long.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 01:32:07 AM
I would love a knitted sweater in white with the orange bitcoin logo in the middle.

Something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/ewy3lvU.png

Can you do that?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 01:34:51 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.
Great. I'll work on it now, and finish it in the morning. Since it's only one necklace, it shouldn't take too long.
Good deal. Dont forget the earings pls :-) I decided to give this to my daughter as she would enjoy it more than mommy :-)


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 01:39:46 AM
I would love a knitted sweater in white with the orange bitcoin logo in the middle.

Something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/ewy3lvU.png

Can you do that?
Here's what's going to happen though:

Because of time spent, I can only do the bitcoin symbol alone on the sweater. If I put that orange circle background on it, that would take more time, thus charging more.

Unless you're willing to pay $70-$100 for a sweater, I wouldn't really offer the circle background at all.

I do apologize if that creates inconvenience. Perhaps just the bitcoin symbol alone would interest you?



Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 01:49:45 AM
Well, this needs to be shipped to Amsterdam (the Netherlands) too.

If you could make the sweater exactly like in my picture - with the orange circle et cetera - I am willing to pay you $80 for your work, if this price includes the shipping costs.

I need it to look nice though. Maybe you can show me one of your knitted sweaters before you start on this one.
If you have another design in mind, then please show me what your design does look like.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 01:56:01 AM
Well, this needs to be shipped to The Netherlands too.

If you could make the sweater exactly like in my picture - with the orange circle et cetera - I am willing to pay you $80 for your work, if this price includes the shipping costs.

I need it to look nice though. Maybe you can show me one of your knitted sweaters before you start on this one.

If you have another design in mind, then please show me what your design does look like.

Thank you!
I don't have any sweaters on me. Right now, all I have is jewelry. With that in mind, you'll just have to wait until I'm finished with it. I'll take a photo of myself with it to prove It's my work, and then we'll negotiate pricing based on material used and time spent.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 02:00:06 AM
Okay, that sounds fair. Do you need me to take some measurements from one of my knitted sweaters?

Also I would like the logo to be a little larger than what was in my picture.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 02:01:20 AM
Okay, that sounds fair. Do you need me to take some measurements from one of my knitted sweaters?

Also I would like the logo to be a little larger than what was in my picture.

What size sweater are you?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 02:07:00 AM
My confection size is usually Medium. I'm 1.80 cm tall and I'm really fit.
If you need me to measure my chest/waist or something like that just let me know.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 02:10:22 AM
My confection size is usually Medium. I'm 1.80 cm tall and I'm really fit.
If you need me to measure my chest/waist or something like that just let me know.

Yes. Do this just in case. I'm sure sizes and measurements differ in different countries.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 02:37:41 AM
Ok, so I decided to measure one of my sweaters that has a nice fit.

Here is what I have (size is Medium):

https://i.imgur.com/Yi2MTPA.png

If some of the measurements seem strange let me know, because I have not done this before.


Please note: this is not my actual sweater. The one I measured has a round neck.
Also the bitcoin sweater should have a round neck. Thank you!


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 02:51:04 AM
Ok, so I decided to measure one of my sweaters that has a nice fit.

Here is what I have (size is Medium):

https://i.imgur.com/Yi2MTPA.png

If some of the measurements seem strange let me know, because I have not done this before.
It's okay, I didn't expect you to. Fashion and technology don't go hand in hand so this is all new for most of you.

 You forgot the circumference measurement for the neck opening of the sweater. Make sure when giving me that, you measure it with the widest part of your head, which would be the forehead.

I believe you also forgot the circumference measurement of your arm. When retrieving the measurements to that, apply the same concept. The widest part is the top of the shoulder, so just wrap the measuring tape around your armpit, with the tape ending at the top of the shoulder.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: boolberry on October 02, 2015, 03:08:35 AM
Can you make bitcoin sweaters for pets too? Or are you only focusing on the human market for now?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 03:12:40 AM
Ok, so my head: ~55cm.
My arm: ~42cm.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 03:16:16 AM
Can you make bitcoin sweaters for pets too? Or are you only focusing on the human market for now?
Pets are welcomed.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 03:24:08 AM
Looks like something is starting here :-) glad to see others show some interest in handmade goods.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on October 02, 2015, 03:25:36 AM
Yea I want to be the next bitcoin pizza guy.
I will go down in history as the bitcoin sweater guy. :P


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 03:28:50 AM
Yea I want to be the next bitcoin pizza guy.
I will go down in history as the bitcoin sweater guy. :P
Save the sweater then... it may be worth $1000 one day as a collector item. I wonder how much the box for the $10K pizza would be worth now. ..


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: boolberry on October 02, 2015, 03:28:58 AM
Can you make bitcoin sweaters for pets too? Or are you only focusing on the human market for now?
Pets are welcomed.

That is great! Would some type of elasticity be possible to make the sweaters one size fits most?

I won't be able to measure the dogs in advance. Instead I was thinking about finding stray dogs that looked hungry and cold and providing them a free meal and bitcoin sweater. They could repay me by running around town advertising bitcoin afterwards.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 03:35:36 AM
Yea I want to be the next bitcoin pizza guy.
I will go down in history as the bitcoin sweater guy. :P
Save the sweater then... it may be worth $1000 one day as a collector item. I wonder how much the box for the $10K pizza would be worth now. ..
I'm pretty sure the only way that'd happen is if I myself became a famous designer like Coco Chanel or Diane Von Furstenberg‎..

In that case, spread the word about my crafts, and I won't ever make that same exact sweater ever again.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 03:37:54 AM
Yea I want to be the next bitcoin pizza guy.
I will go down in history as the bitcoin sweater guy. :P
Save the sweater then... it may be worth $1000 one day as a collector item. I wonder how much the box for the $10K pizza would be worth now. ..
I'm pretty sure the only way that'd happen is if I myself became a famous designer like Coco Chanel or Diane Von Furstenberg‎..

In that case, spread the word about my crafts, and I won't ever make that same exact sweater ever again.
You never know. Don't lose hope!  If you do become famous dont forget the little people lol. Seriously though don't downplay yourself,  anything is possible.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 03:42:55 AM
Can you make bitcoin sweaters for pets too? Or are you only focusing on the human market for now?
Pets are welcomed.

That is great! Would some type of elasticity be possible to make the sweaters one size fits most?

I won't be able to measure the dogs in advance. Instead I was thinking about finding stray dogs that looked hungry and cold and providing them a free meal and bitcoin sweater. They could repay me by running around town advertising bitcoin afterwards.
It's possible, but highly unlikely. I'd have to weave the sweater in a way where the threading was loose, which means it will not be that warm.

Getting measurements is strongly recommended.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 08:15:46 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.
Almost done. Quick question: How old is your daughter?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 10:29:28 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.
Almost done. Quick question: How old is your daughter?
3 and mommy is tired of her taking all her jewelery and losing it around the house :-)


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
Okey dokey. Its a deal. Hopefully I spark a little business for you. So the necklace and a pair of earings shipped $30.
Almost done. Quick question: How old is your daughter?
3 and mommy is tired of her taking all her jewelery and losing it around the house :-)

Alright. Enjoy this free additional gift for your purchase. I hope your daughter likes it.

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0025_zpsnpvcuv6s.jpg

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0026_zpsa9mxsoww.jpg

Here's your request.

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0039_zpsuqfhiv0b.jpg

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0030_zpseffrlaf1.jpg

I'd like to give another free gift. I have tons of jewelry that needs to go. What type of jewelry does your wife like? Does she like pearls? I have an old pearl necklace with no earrings. I didn't make it though.

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0031_zpsvtytosif.jpg


I also have a bronze necklace that looks like a collar. I didn't make this one either.

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/Crystalqueeniebeenie/Mobile%20Uploads/KIMG0032_zpswptcb1xt.jpg


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Wowzers! Thank you very much! I think wifey will like the bronze necklace most. You are very generous :-) I will pm you the details for shipping. Care to post a btc address? Im willing to not use escrow. This isn't too much for me to risk.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
Wowzers! Thank you very much! I think wifey will like the bronze necklace most. You are very generous :-) I will pm you the details for shipping. Care to post a btc address? Im willing to not use escrow. This isn't too much for me to risk.
Actually, I don't really take bitcoin, because I don't know how to use it.

Most people think that's me being deliberately clueless or trolling, but I honestly don't know. Ironic enough, that's why I'm here. To learn about it.
 


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 12:17:12 PM
Wowzers! Thank you very much! I think wifey will like the bronze necklace most. You are very generous :-) I will pm you the details for shipping. Care to post a btc address? Im willing to not use escrow. This isn't too much for me to risk.
Actually, I don't really take bitcoin, because I don't know how to use it.

Most people think that's me being deliberately clueless or trolling, but I honestly don't know. Ironic enough, that's why I'm here. To learn about it.
 
Well would you like to learn now? I have the coin ready to go. All you need is a wallet... pm me


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 02, 2015, 12:18:33 PM
Wowzers! Thank you very much! I think wifey will like the bronze necklace most. You are very generous :-) I will pm you the details for shipping. Care to post a btc address? Im willing to not use escrow. This isn't too much for me to risk.
Actually, I don't really take bitcoin, because I don't know how to use it.

Most people think that's me being deliberately clueless or trolling, but I honestly don't know. Ironic enough, that's why I'm here. To learn about it.
 
Well would you like to learn now? I have the coin ready to go. All you need is a wallet... pm me
But you didn't mail the shipping address yet.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
Wowzers! Thank you very much! I think wifey will like the bronze necklace most. You are very generous :-) I will pm you the details for shipping. Care to post a btc address? Im willing to not use escrow. This isn't too much for me to risk.
Actually, I don't really take bitcoin, because I don't know how to use it.

Most people think that's me being deliberately clueless or trolling, but I honestly don't know. Ironic enough, that's why I'm here. To learn about it.
 
Well would you like to learn now? I have the coin ready to go. All you need is a wallet... pm me
But you didn't mail the shipping address yet.
Yes I did. Check your pm.


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: Coinminer11 on October 02, 2015, 03:27:53 PM
Payment has been sent for my purchase from you. $30 in btc as agreed. TXID: 9aeadb959e3ee452ebb9d15006362e8f013e27f3cb8fd712e6917ee674d15a88
I can't wait to give these to my girls


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: vleroybrown on October 04, 2015, 01:01:11 AM
What about childrens gloves knited with a bitcoin symbol in the palm?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: codishmumu on October 04, 2015, 01:03:25 AM
What about childrens gloves knited with a bitcoin symbol in the palm?
I can do that for you. In the palm? How will people see the symbol most of the time?


Title: Re: Snag a handmade bitcoin chain!
Post by: codishmumu on October 05, 2015, 05:06:31 AM
Anymore interests?


Title: Re: Handmade bitcoin merchandise....?
Post by: vleroybrown on October 08, 2015, 03:25:32 AM
What about childrens gloves knited with a bitcoin symbol in the palm?
I can do that for you. In the palm? How will people see the symbol most of the time?
Kids as cute as mine, are you kidding, they always have their palms out ;)
If you are making a sweater as was mention earlier in this thread,  post some progress pics.  When I get some measurements let me know what you are asking for the gloves.