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Shooting at GUN FREE Umpqua Community College, Oregon




Roseburg, Ore. – -(Ammoland.com)- A shooting has been confirmed at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore.

More than 20 people are injured after a shooting at a community college in Oregon Thursday morning, officials told the Daily News.

Preliminary information indicates 10 people were killed and more than 20 others injured in a shooting at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College on Thursday morning, Oregon State Police spokesman Bill Fugate told CNN.

The shooter was reported as “down,” with no further details immediately available, said Douglass County commissioner Chris Boice.

One female was shot in the chest on the Roseburg campus, and 20 people were reported as “injured,” he said.

Umpqua Community College is a posted Gun Free Zone. With the college security page stating the following:

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited.

Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.

Brandishing weapons is prohibited.

Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of these devices.”

The college is located on the North Umpqua River and serves Roseburg and the greater Douglas County area. The college was established in 1964 and educates close to 20,000 full and part-time students

This story is breaking and will be updated as more information becomes available.


http://www.ammoland.com/2015/10/shooting-at-gun-free-umpqua-community-college-oregon/#axzz3nLL69q1c

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/649661097646161920

Wow, how many more deaths are going to happen before they realise that gun free zones are a fucking stupid idea?

Many.

I'm a pretty open minded person, but I really can't understand the obsession people have with gun control, the entire focus is on them, nevermind the fact that I can openly buy military tanks and get explosives from a fucking hardware store with a tiny bit of research and knowledge.

Sigh -_-

prohibition isnt the answer to this problem i think , there are a lot of ways else.prohibition must be but also schools must be in police control.Democracy is good when enough but more is required by the animals that have to live in forest.

I truly don't understand why places like "universities, colleges, etc <expand the list as you like>"  think they can figure out what should and should not be allowed on their premises.  Why shouldn't the local laws govern?


Umpqua Community College is a posted Gun Free Zone. With the college security page stating the following:

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited.

Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.

Brandishing weapons is prohibited.

Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of these devices.”

Gun control is about people control. 99.9% of people in the US, 100% NRA members don't go shooting people in the street.  As soon as the 2nd Amendment falls, the 1st is next.

https://soundcloud.com/washington-free-beacon/clinton-bashes-nra

http://freebeacon.com/politics/leaked-audio-clinton-says-supreme-court-is-wrong-on-second-amendment/

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting/

Obama will probably address the public, then shortly later he'll push for stricter gun control any time a mass shooting happens...Times like these, I don't feel politics should necessarily be involved, but protocols like damn security guards being unarmed should be reviewed.

Shooter In Oregon Asked People Their Religion Before He Started Shooting – UPDATE: Christians Were Shot In The Head…

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Kortney Moore, 18, from Rogue River, Ore., was in her Writing 115 class at Snyder Hall when she heard a shot come through a window.

She said she watched as her teacher was shot in the head. The gunman was inside the building at that point, she said, and was ordering people to get on the ground.

Ms. Moore said the the man asked people to stand up and state their religion, and then he began firing.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/10/01/ny-times-witness-oregon-campus-gunman-asked-about-religion


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The gunman who opened fire at Umpqua Community College in Oregon asked victims to state their religion before opening fire, according to multiple reports. An 18-year-old student told the News-Review newspaper that the gunman, after shooting her teacher in the head through a window, told people to get on the ground. He then told people to stand up and state their religion before opening fire. Twitter user @BodhiLooney, who said her grandma was at the school, said the shooter asked people if they were Christian. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/tags/tag/id/808/

Can we speculate a Tea Partier would not have shot a Christian in the head?

He did not even waited that long... What a sad president.







http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/01/white-house-immediately-politicizes-oregan-shooting-calls-for-more-gun-control/

You know one way conspiracy theorists will lean toward deciding if a shooting was a hoax or real? The hoaxes tend to have someone calling for gun control that day or the next. Normal shootings won't have people shouting we need gun control immediately because they're mourning for their relatives.

I'm not saying this or is not a hoax, but I find that funny.

0bama is the a gold mine for gun sellers. Every time he opens his mouth for more gun control they sell 1 million more guns.

FORMER US MARSHAL: OREGON GUNMAN CHOSE ‘GUN FREE FACILITY’ WITH UMPQUA COMMUNITY COLLEGE


During an October 1 appearance on CNN’s Newroom, former US Marshal Art Roderick said the gunman at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College probably chose his target by knowing it was as gun free-zone and therefore “an easy target.”

Roderick’s exact words: “[The gunman] probably knew that the facility was a gun free facility, [which is] an easy target for these kinds of coward individuals. They know they’re not going to get any response unless they happen to run into security or a campus police officer.”

Roderick went on to explain that the key for investigators right now is ascertaining the gunman’s motive and figuring out how he got his weapon(s).

On August 2 Breitbart News reported that eight attacks with firearms in gun free zones in the last eight years resulted in the lost of 105 lives and the wounding of 150 others. Those attacks were on the Lafayette Grand Theater (July 23), Chattanooga (July 16), Fort Hood (April 2, 2014), DC Navy Yard (September 16, 2013), Sandy Hook Elementary (December 14, 2012), Aurora movie theater (July 12, 2012), Fort Hood (November 5, 2009), and Virginia Tech (April 16, 2007)


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/01/former-us-marshal-oregon-gunman-chose-gun-free-facility-umpqua-community-college/


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Strange how the media calls him "the gunman"... No ID...

Right, if you don't know already...

BREAKING: Is This the Oregon Shooter? 4chan Forum Says his Name is Toby Reynolds (http://libertynews.com/2015/10/breaking-is-this-the-oregon-shooter-4chan-forum-says-his-name-is-toby-reynolds/)

Anonymous 4chan users who earlier exposed a forum discussion where they say the Oregon campus shooter allegedly warned what he planned to do are now saying they know who he is. The group is spreading the user’s name and image on social media.

They allege his name is Toby Reynolds and associate him with the picture above. The user used screen name “eggman” in the forum.

While none of this is confirmed by government officials at this time, CNN and Fox News are referring to the discussion we posted screenshots of and suggesting it very well could be the real deal.

Click here to view the screenshots of the creepy warning posted to the anonymous forum. (http://libertynews.com/2015/10/breaking-alert-this-creepy-eerie-message-board-chat-was-posted-overnight-showing-a-warning-about-campus-shooting-screenshots/)

Click here for an ongoing update on news of the shooting. (http://libertynews.com/2015/10/breaking-school-shooting-in-oregon-with-at-least-10-reportedly-dead/)

EDIT:

"The so called "Egg Man" or person who 4chan and other listed as the Oregon shooter is NOT him. He is alive and has communicated to NBC."

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/649717090639867904

Yes. I went through the whole 4chan thread and knew it was a troll trap, smelled like one. so I did not include egg man on my thread.
I may be wrong regarding the gunman and the christians. We shall see.


4chan is a trap. If you ever venture over there make sure you wear a full hazmat suit and a vpn..


 

I have no inclination to check it out and I've only heard the nastiest things about it, lol.

Whatever you've heard... It is worse. Not dark web worse but close...

Just doing their jobs.  ;D

I feel bad comparing that dirt with with those useful great birds
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sky+burial


 

PHOTOS: Chris Harper Mercer Identified as Oregon Gunman (http://breaking911.com/breaking-oregon-gunman-is-chris-harper-mercer/)

http://breaking911.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer.jpg

BREAKING=> Umpqua Shooter Identified as ‘Chris Harper Mercer’ – Student at College- PHOTO (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-umpqua-shooter-identified-as-chris-harper-mercer-student-at-college/)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/chis-harper-mercer.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/aA0wZ


https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/3n6jdo/according_to_christopher_harpermercers_myspace/


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609395/Chris-Harper-Mercer-shooter-Oregon-Umpqua-Community-College


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/1/chris-harper-mercer-identified-umpqua-community-co/


http://www.weaselzippers.us/235741-gunman-identified-as-chris-harper-mercer/

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What a mess.

The vultures are fucking swarming already aren't they?

I heart this morning that just alone this year more than 290 had been killed because of mass shootings/rampage in the US.
This is crazy! The states is a really nice country but some laws I will never understand. Obama can do nothing about it.Very disappointing.

Its ashame what happened.  Stricter gun control laws wont help either.  As stated in other threads it will make it harder for the people who want and need them to buy a legit legal gun. Criminals and people with problems who do things like this will always find a way to get there hands on a gun.

If it wasnt a gun it would be something else like a bomb or something alike. They had unarmed security guards on campus.  Thatbwas one mistake as there are other places in the same boat.  Guards arent allowed to carry or dont want to.  Well in situations like this they would have or could have I should say may have been able to save a few lives or it may not have even happened.  How often do you see a cop not carry a gun?  You dont. With everything that has been going on with these shootings you would think security would change.  It may not have stopped it from happening but it may have been a deterrent or the guards may have been able to stop the gunman before it became as bad as it did.  All situations are different.  But whats the point in security if they can only write parking tickets and confiscate drugs. 

Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight.  It doesnt work.

Its getting to a point where even teachers should have access to a firearm and be trained to use them incase of situations like this.  Will it happen probably not but it would be a step in what I beleive would be the right direction.

Control laws wont do much.  Criminals will still get there hands on them and use them how they wish.

I kept seeing people post about how it was a gun free zone.  In terms they are only words.  Like laws it seems theybare ment to be broken.  As people break laws everyday.  Need a more physical means or protection as words or laws have been proven not to work for everyone.

Just my thoughts is all.

You got that right, that always happen when theres a mass shooting.
 Stricter gun control isnt gonna work anyways
They should put more armed security guards.

Yes, I wonder who came up with the idea of "gun-free zones" they should feel embarrassed and ashamed. It's like saying if there's a law not to murder people, murders will stop. But it's worse, because the criminals know they won't have anyone shooting a gun at them so they can do more damage.

No, "control laws" won't fix a problem like this.  The only fix is to recognize that long nutcases will arise out of nowhere from time to time and they will go out and do their thing.

"Control laws" will not control that.

Next, allow the people to protect themselves against this risk - fully - by allowing those who are interested to concealed carry.  

Once this is done, the bad guy will always know when he faces a crowd of what to him are targets, that they may and probably will, shoot back.

Oregon DOES HAVE a concealed carry law, and does have the "Castle Doctrine."  So here the problem stems from the Community College itself having pacifist rules creating a target rich and safe environment for the shooter.

BREAKING: Umpqua Shooter was not a Republican


Thursday’s horrific mass murder at Umpqua Community College in Oregon has everyone looking for answers and motives to how a young man became a monster–and some are jumping too quickly to conclusions.

Naturally, the media and other liberals have claimed the shooter, Chris Harper-Mercer, a 26-year-old, biracial man, was a Republican

At one point in his life, Mercer tagged himself as a Republican on his dating profile. Within hours after the shooting, CBS, Raw Story, Mediate, Heavy, The Daily Beast, and scores of Twitter users pounced all over this apparent revelation.







http://redalertpolitics.com/2015/10/02/breaking-umpqua-shooter-not-republican/


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Corpse eaters...

Umpqua Killer Chris Harper-Mercer Attended School for Teens with ‘Emotional Disabilities’


Chris Harper Mercer saw the limelight given to Obama-supporter Vester Flanagan after he shot two reporters live on TV.




Chris Harper Mercer, the man accused of opening fire at a rural Oregon community college Thursday, formerly lived in the South Bay and attended a school for teens with emotional disabilities.

Records show Harper-Mercer, 26, lived in a ground-floor apartment on Arlington Avenue at 230th Street in Torrance with his mother, Laurel Harper, from 2011 to 2013. The owner of the building said he did not know them and neighbors did not recall them.

But current residents, greeted by reporters knocking at their doors late Thursday, were shocked to learn that the man suspected of committing the nation’s latest mass shooting had lived in their building.

“It’s extremely surreal,” said resident Shannon Medrano. “I don’t remember him. If I could see a picture of his mom, maybe it could jog some memory. I wonder what his experience was like here. This is not a big building. I’m sure we crossed paths at some point.”

Lists of South Bay graduates from 2009 published in the Daily Breeze showed Harper Mercer graduated from the Switzer Learning Center in Torrance with four other students. Switzer teaches students with learning disabilities and emotional issues.

A former behavioral aide at Switzer, who did not want her name used, said the majority of the students at the school are from foster, low-income and single-parent homes. Some of these students were expelled from other schools or had been in trouble with the law.

The school is divided among special needs students and those with behavioral problems.


http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20151001/oregon-gunman-chris-harper-mercer-lived-in-torrance-graduated-from-switzer-center

I haven't looked up any new information about this case, but reading this thread, but that makes it sound hoax-y. Also, if he says he's blaming the Vester Flanagan case? That was a hoax (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBTNZLsFI1MGAIJOFQkBWFLB5pAejN3B5). I don't doubt it.

You are perfectly welcome to have that position too...

 8)

Halperin Insist U.S. Must Do Something About Gun Violence But Can't Offer Solutions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUzQPyQsJ2s


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When facing a wall just say you agree with the vice president...

 ::)

[...]

Cooke then points out again that neither Obama nor Biden offered any specific policy proposals. They did the same thing that Halperin and Brzezinski do here — vent righteous indignation, then look around for someone to blame for a problem that almost certainly has no legislative remedy. Congresses under control of both parties certainly haven’t found any, and none of the proposals that percolate out in the minutes after a publicized shooting incident turn out to apply when all of the facts finally come out.

The only hint of a policy from anyone came from Obama, who praised Australia for their reaction to a mass shooting, and that solution was a massive firearm confiscation program. Democrats, including Obama, have spent the last 30 years claiming that they don’t want to take guns from law-abiding citizens, which may make next year’s elections a bit awkward outside of the coastal urban areas. And even then, Obama didn’t have the nerve to actually propose that solution. It’s not too difficult to figure out why, either.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/02/video-what-is-it-that-youre-proposing/

Heroic Army Veteran Shot Multiple Times After He Charged Oregon Shooter




A heroic student charged at the Oregon college shooter and was shot five times as he tried to save his classmates, his family said.

Army veteran Chris Mintz, 30, was taken to hospital following the massacre at Umpqua Community College on Thursday morning.

His cousin Derek Bourgeois told DailyMail.com that Mintz faced Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, who killed at least 10 people at the school in Roseburg.

‘I was told he went after the shooter,’ Bourgeois told DailyMail.com.

‘There was no way he was going to stand around and watch something this horrific happen.’

Bourgeois, who lives in North Carolina, said no vital organs were hit when Mintz was shot multiple times, but he is expected to recover after spending most of Thursday in surgery.

According to his family, both of his legs are broken and he will have to learn to walk again.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257223/He-wasn-t-going-stand-watching-horrific-happen-hero-Army-veteran-shot-five-times-charged-Oregon-college-shooter.html

That is just stupid GUN FREE ZONE as if criminals gonna follow
That rule who ever thought about that must be living in a rainbows and butterfly world.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/heroes-umpqua-unarmed-vet-shot-7-times-saving-students-armed-vet-told-stand/


home of the brave, home of the free


[[tin suit on // perfect false flag to quiet the absolute humiliation of the potus ww // nothing else to say about corporate press ]]

moh? ps?

(btw his skin ain't right for the potus in charge :()

Awesome guy hope he get well soon.

Everyone should be able to defend themselves in any case.  I carry daily.   I don't conceal either.  I have a full size on my hip fully visible to everyone.  18 rounds to boot.

Not only that I have had many people come up to me and say they wish they seen more of it.  Some say they feel safer while others say they dont.  But for everyone who knows me always say they want me around as I am one of the only ones in the area who never conceals my firearm.

As soon as the 2nd is gone, the 1st is next to go... The people behind gun control know it, want it.

OF COURSE ! to merge in some united nations bullshit.. I call it the GREAT DOMESTIC WAR... first the problem there is absolutely 0 money to be made on this one... sletch, niet, nothing at all... total cost less than 100M$... why? it's mostly civilian with maybe a few 100 "enemy combattants"... that's tragic... and the problem as it's a domestic group, there is no way to make it grow in size before wipping it out... for it's just a little training op for the fbi backed by the cia/nsa...

for starters i would start with those linked with cnn, and of course the state dep, doj... higher up first then rank down... this time there will no cave, at best it will be in a private bunker in a giant mcmansion somwhere... it's frankly pathetic...

imagine how fast the svd or mss would have clean those domestic enemies if it was in non occupied territories... (btw it's start to be a shame, name - family revealed... it's the SAME group, they will do everything in their power to weaken the us... even the PATRIOT OF RUSSIA knows that fergusson was scamed along the same line... wake up guys...).

it's not because they are weak that they can't inflict damages.

Wonder if that fits in with the whole NWO thing I hear people talking about.   Looking at the big picture.  Makes you wonder if that really isnt part of some agenda somewhere.

"But hello Agenda 21. We meet again...."

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Bill O'Reilly Message To President Obama: I Have A Right To Protect Myself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1bHNplo48

It's called Agenda 2030 (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/in-september-2015-agenda-21-will-be-transformed-into-the-2030-agenda) now. Agenda 21 was set to have the NWO in place for year 2050. Now they've moved it closer, so it's year 2030.

now doesn't exists, it's the oow aka OLD WORLD ORDER, to enslave all of mankind under the one, he will be called pharaoh by is inner circle.

agenda 21? if it's not based on a 4 years or 5 years plans (us military, CHINESE CIVILISATION) it's nothing... only a thing to kick back some dollars to stupid children from 3rd world countries, and offer them a decent job at one of the numerous un agency... (like in their home, banana style).

Emmmm.   What can 1 man do?   Ill have to think hard on this one.

epstein on steroids.

LOL yeah. That would be interesting.

It's like this every time. He doesn't address the public to mourn the deaths of the people, he does it so he can push for stricter gun control. He finds the need to turn everything to a political event the day after the shooting instead of address those who died or offering condolences.

Well countries with less guns tend to have less violent crime -- With the correlation being income being lower leads to higher crime
That said de-arming the USA would take decades to get to Japan levels with all the guns out there.
I did it find it interesting how he Headshot Christians and Leg-shot Atheists sad as it is my condolences to those who died there and the victims families.
And Robot9001 Really of all the boards for a shooter to hang out in 4chan may have seen it first but the road from their to action is steep always blame /b.

There is what? 1 mass shooting a week? When should he talk about possible solutions? I never got the american fascination with guns. Are you safer because of them? Or have more freedom of speech than other western countries because of weapons?

If the crime rate is low in a region or a country, then the people won't be needing guns to defend themselves. That is why there are very few guns in countries such as Japan and Singapore. On the other hand, if the crime rate is quite high, then the people will go for guns. An example is Russia, where there are millions of firearms, but owning a firearm legally is extremely difficult.

Most people believe that they are safer because of them. Mass shootings tend to get a lot of attention. There is however no way to get attention to or even quantify the number of crimes prevented because people wore guns.

I selected your sentence, right clicked it, selected "search" and found this:

12 Times Mass Shootings Were Stopped by Good Guys With Guns


http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/


Google. Use it. It's easy.

Well the shooter was an atheist who hated Christians so what can we assume? Those kind of people might do anything because they are not able to use reasoning and can't control what they are doing. They are fully controlled by their desires and emotions and are even bigger safety risk than conventional terrorists.

As much as I believe in the eradication of religion, I can't condone the shooting of innocent people for their beliefs.   :-\

Me either.  Think people take some stuff a little to far.

The nine victims killed in Thursday’s massacre at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon have been named by police.

Officials identified the nine as; Lucero Alcaraz, 19; Quinn Glen Cooper, 18; Kim Saltmarsh Dietz, 59; Lucas Eibel, 18; Jason Dale Johnson, 33; Lawrence Levine, 67; Sarena Dawn Moore, 44; Treven Taylor Anspach, 20; and Rebecka Ann Carnes, 18.

Shortly after reading the names of those who lost their lives, members of the police department read statements from some of the families.

They also revealed that the number of people injured during Thursday’s shooting was nine, not seven as previously reported.

The gunman, Chris Harper-Mercer, was also killed on Thursday by police.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257855/The-nine-victims-Oregon-gunman-26-including-trainee-nurse-19-recovered-addict-turning-life-72-year-old-mature-student-named-police.html

I am curious to what really happen on this incident... because using a human body behind a door to stop bullets isn't the same as running toward an armed man on an open field.

behind the door is a best slowing the progress (why not block the door and escape by the window?), running bar handed is Sovietlike :).

curious.

Hoax or reality? The jihad connection


Use google translate.

https://www.ridus.ru/news/199511

Is the Oregon Shooting a hoax? Obama came out immediately anti-guns and a Vet with a gun who wanted to help wasn't allowed in.


Video: WOW! Oregon Shooting Hoax Crisis Actor Stacy Boylen - Uhhh Uhhh Bullshit!  (https://youtu.be/gzg1x2MUk-Y)

Video: Oregon Shooting - Crisis Acting? Chris Mintz Family Duping Delight + Gofundme  (https://youtu.be/_nrLf1ltbvo)

Video: Oregon Shooting Hoax: Blatant Gun Control Agenda For UN NWO (Redsilverj)  (https://youtu.be/lmNPrGMxO2s)

I think this link will be translated through google translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ridus.ru%2Fnews%2F199511

urm... I think calling the college a gun free zone is wrong. If I remember correctly, there was a student with a concealed weapon license in the college while the shooting were going on.

The conservative site Breitbart and others assert that guns were banned at UCC. This is not true. The student code of conduct bans guns "without written authorization." Under Oregon law, the university could not ban people with a valid concealed carry license from bringing their weapons on campus. (They could ban gun from various buildings and facilities.) Conservative writer Dana Loesch, who initially claimed the campus was a "gun free zone," updated her article to clarify that individuals with concealed carry permits were allowed to bring guns on campus.

-http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/01/3708256/ucc-was-not-a-gun-free-zone-because-public-colleges-in-oregon-cant-ban-guns/ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/01/3708256/ucc-was-not-a-gun-free-zone-because-public-colleges-in-oregon-cant-ban-guns/)

One sure thing : Umpqua Community College is a beautiful place of learning, it represents what should be achieved everywhere in China in the next few decades. My sincerest condolences to the victims, my best hopes to the wounded, I hope that tragedies like this will not happen. gun (swords) don't kill, sick people do. killing the killer is righteous.

Video: Oregon Shooting Hoax - Drills Galore (+One Week Before) Terrorizing Oregonians!  (https://youtu.be/4AyNt6ZkD3M)

Staff says there are going to be NO changes to security in the video.

"Oregon College President Says School STAFF Has Been Conducting School Shooting Drills
https://youtu.be/26gZLLx-HWY

BREAKING.. Drills Held Last Week At School In Oregon Shooting:
https://youtu.be/B5sJcjBTQmk

Oregon Shooting Drill Hoax - INTERVIEW THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE!!!
https://youtu.be/glKIYeiodPM

Teacher terrified by surprise 'active shooter' drill in eastern Oregon schoolhouse files federal lawsuit
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/04/teacher_terrified_by_surprise.html

Chris Mintz - UCC Shooting Survivor https://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4"

Bernard Kerik on Oregon Shooting: Police Were Planning for Such an Attack (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/bernard-kerik-oregon-shooting-police/2015/10/01/id/694319/)

"Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik Thursday credited strong planning by local authorities in Oregon for preventing a 20-year-old gunman from taking more lives while on a shooting rampage at a community college, telling Newsmax "you can only imagine what this would've been without their intervention."

"That could've been far, far worse if they didn't take this guy out when they did," Kerik, who oversaw the city's police force during the 9/11 attacks, said of the shootings at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, about 180 miles south of Portland. "The other thing I was pretty impressed with was that the state had brought in buses to extract people from the campus.

"That wasn't spontaneous. That was something that was pre-planned."

Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said 13 people were dead after the 20-year-old gunman began firing at 10:38 a.m. It was not immediately clear whether that number also included the shooter.

State police Lt. Bill Fugate said that at least 20 others were hurt. The school has about 3,000 students.

Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin said the gunman was killed in an exchange of gunfire with officers. The sheriff did not say whether the shooter was killed by officers or took his own life.

Authorities offered no immediate word on the gunman's motive and said they were investigating.

One student said the shooter asked people about their religion before spraying more bullets.

After the incident, students and faculty were taken by bus the county fairgrounds, the sheriff's office said.

Kerik told Newsmax that using the buses to transport people to safer areas proved that Douglas County authorities had been planning for such an attack.

"I can't fathom that was something spontaneous, which means these guys have been drilling or practicing for this kind of event," he said. "The first responders, the local and state police — and the administration itself.

"This isn't the first, it's not going to be the last — but it's essential, and this is a clear demonstration of how important these continual drills are. This is extremely important.

"They have been planning," Kerik reiterated. "They've been preparing for a crises like this. Look, the reality is if they haven't been, they're stupid.

"If you're in this country today and you don't know the possible threats that we face with terrorism — whether it's a lone wolf or a group or some lunatic like perhaps in this case — but if you don't understand that by now, then you're never going to get it.

"We have to be prepared for crises of this nature — and it appears to be that you've got to give these cops and the first-responders kudos for their response today."

SHOCK: LA TIMES LABELS BLACK OREGON SHOOTER AS WHITE SUPREMACIST!!!



The Los Angeles Times has labeled the Oregon shooter as having “white supremacist leanings” even though the shooter was black. The shooter identified as “mixed race” and reportedly had a black mother. Quoting an alleged anonymous source in law enforcement, the paper wrote, “A federal law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said, though, that authorities had obtained some of Harper-Mercer’s writings, as well as a note he left behind, suggesting that he supported white-supremacist causes and opposed organized religion. He also liked to discuss military history, the official said.”

Regarding the race of the shooter and his motivations, the Daily Beast reported that the shooter admired the black Roanoke shooter who expressed racial motivations for his actions. They also wrote, “The father is Caucasian, Evans said, while Mercer’s mother, Laurel Harper, is black.”

The absurdity and apparent lack of an actual knowledgeable source in the LA Times article was first pointed out by Daniel Greenfield in FrontPage Magazine. He wrote:

According to the LA Times, Chris Harper Mercer, the Oregon killer, was a “White Supremacist”.

One slight problem. Mercer identified as multi-racial. His mother was black. He doesn’t seem to have even known his father. He identified with black TV killer Vester Lee Flanagan.

Though it is possible that someone resembling the Dave Chappelle character Clayton Bigsby, who was a blind black white supremacist, did exist, we can all agree that it is unlikely.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/

He's been talking about possible solutions, forever now. He seems to take these "address the public" speeches to no longer mourn or inform the public, but rather create political pushes for gun control. After Sandy Hook, it seems nothing will happen anymore.

Just so I can get this straight.

Obama is "black."

This shooter was "half-WHITE."

0bama = mom, white, daddy, black = 100% black

evil insane shooter = mom, black, daddy, white maybe = 100% pure white as snow racist republican killer.

Well, that's good. But irrelevant, as he was not targeting Christians to kill.

McGowan told family members that the gunman didn't specifically target Christians but asked them about faith. The shooter, apparently planning to die during the massacre, told students: "I'll see you soon" or "I'll meet you soon." [...] "The shooter would call a person: 'You, stand up,'" Salas said, recalling what her son told her. "And then he would ask them if they were a Christian, knew God, or had religion. And it wasn't like it was stated on TV. It wasn't that he was just trying to pinpoint Christians, no."

-http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/gunman_in_oregon_college_shoot.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/gunman_in_oregon_college_shoot.html)

Didn't a mother of a columbine shooting victim claim her daughter got killed for being Christian, profiting off of a lie about her daughter's death? And fueling the Christian persecution complex, much like that particular part of this story... Well, the lie's already made it halfway around the world. Let's see how far the truth goes.

Another completely inaccurate thing said as if it were fact by people very eager to politicize this tragedy. This is why you wait a day or two, for all the information to come out. That way, you're not helping propagate inaccurate data, at best, lies at worst.

PS: I don't see how White supremacist is only for pure-blooded white people. People of all backgrounds can have bigoted views. Of course, a black man being a white supremacist is like a slave that agrees with slavery, but I guess they exist. Also, based on the tone of his skin (photo found on google), I would guess he would be more likely to hold white supremacist views than someone of the skin tone of say... Obama.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-10/2/0/enhanced/webdr03/enhanced-3779-1443758812-5.png       http://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/30/a6/f2b71987431c91cee0aa4bf28723/140630-obama-editorial.jpg

interesting how the msm bent on destroying the US Constitution and Bills of Rights for the benefits of their shareholders will not show the mother... interesting... then this is quite funny, when though in the context of the stupidty :

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/

time to stop to be so gullible, and a picture on how the domestic enemy use photoshop:

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregon-shooter-9-color-black.jpg?w=640

I don't think they understand what they do... fema camp redux.

When CNN starts showing Photoshopped images to create a story, I would hope the world would start boycotting their news. Why would anyone keep watching them as if they're telling you the truth?

Father Describes How Oregon College Shooter Targeted Christians



Don't be a drone people... Google it.

Drone? Like the guy that doesn't know that the college was not a gun-free zone!? Yet, on and on you went about how dangerous gun-free zones are, despite the fact at least one person had a concealed carry license for the gun he had.

I provided the testimony. You need for more information to come out to use it as fact! But no, you're so eager to push such narrative. We'll have to wait and see what the rest of the eyewitnesses say. It sounds like that guy heard it from a source not inside the classroom, I think so because he states it as fact "he systematically starting asking people one by one what their religion was. [...] He would say 'good, because you are Christian, you're going to see god in a minute' and he would kill them". Not as if he heard it from someone there, say... his daughter. I fully believe that's what he thinks happened, but I don't think that's what actually happened. I think he got it fed to him by the media, before his interview.

McGowan told family members that the gunman didn't specifically target Christians but asked them about faith. The shooter, apparently planning to die during the massacre, told students: "I'll see you soon" or "I'll meet you soon." [...] "The shooter would call a person: 'You, stand up,'" Salas said, recalling what her son told her. "And then he would ask them if they were a Christian, knew God, or had religion. And it wasn't like it was stated on TV. It wasn't that he was just trying to pinpoint Christians, no."

-http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/gunman_in_oregon_college_shoot.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/gunman_in_oregon_college_shoot.html)

Funny how people always beleive what they see or read kn the news.  When most news channels have been proven too be liars and never tell the whole story.  Its almost like they work for our govenment and are told what they can and can not tell in the news.  I watch the news for local things larger things I would rather see or dig deeper into see what may be behind the rest of the shit.  Ya just never know nowadays.

Oregon Shooter's Father Blames Guns, Not Son, For Umpqua Murders




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He's the father... What else could he have said? "Sorry for my son's action? I ask forgiveness from the families"..?

Of course not. I guess he is blaming the mom... Father of the year.

"Almost like"? How about they can and do. How the NDAA Allows US Gov to Use Propaganda Against Americans (https://occupycorporatism.com/how-the-ndaa-allows-us-gov-to-use-propaganda-against-americans/)

Oregon congregants forgive the killer who targeted Christians


[...]
Two days earlier, the pastor had counseled families of the victims, and one day earlier, he had prayed with survivors as they rode on a school bus to retrieve their belongings from the crime scene. Now it was Saturday morning, time to lead his church, and pastor Lonnie Wibberding stepped in front of his small congregation and bowed his head.

“We now know that this was an attack on all of us here,” he said…

“Prayer is what we need,” one congregant said, quoting from a text message she had just received from the mother of a shooting victim.

“I want to pray for all people who hate Christians,” another congregant said.

[...]
Moore had been a member of an Adventist congregation for most of her life. Her faith had helped to sustain her through several divorces and a recent health crisis, friends said. Now those same friends wondered whether her faith had also played a role in her death.

“Those people who stood up, they are the bravest people in the world,” said Sonia Gagliano, a congregant who had left her Writing 121 class at Umpqua moments before the shooting began. “I hope I would have stood up. I hope we can all stand up now.”


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/04/oregon-congregants-forgive-the-killer-who-targeted-christians/

to impose the path of forgiveness on other is wrong. to forgive is beautiful.

but :

full me once shame on you, full me twice shame on me.

and:

once is enough.

the true christian martyrdom: accept to be hurt, raped, assaulted, tortured, etc with your children (multiple times), killed and do nothing about it.

the path of (to) the cross.

Oregon Shooter Made Christians Crawl, Shot Girl After Making Her Beg For Her Life


The Oregon shooter who killed nine and injured nine ordered a girl to beg for her life before shooting her anyway, a survivor recalls.

Chris Harper-Mercer prefaced his murderous rampage by handing an envelope to one boy, told him to stand in the corner and said ‘you’re the lucky one’.

However, his mercy extended no further.

In a chilling account from 18-year-old survivor Lacey Scroggins, Harper-Mercer turned to one girl and said he would spare her if she begged for her life. As she pleaded, he shot her.

The 26-year-old killer also ordered his Christian classmates to crawl into the middle of the room to be shot dead, Scroggins’ father, Pastor Randy Scroggins, revealed.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259489/Oregon-shooter-ordered-girl-BEG-life-shot-pleaded-survivor-recalls.html


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Father's killer father of the year: "Not enough gun control made him do this..."

the "jihad" is for pikers.

I love watching CNN.


1) in a war of attrition it's crucial to know the enemy position, how it format and digest the message before vomiting it into the brain of the dead brain collective that it controls.

2) better, even, is to see them FALL, nothing will be sweeter

3) as a pure enemy chanel, I love to see that FREEDOM OF THE PRESS IS GUARANTED

4) I love to see non humans working for money

5) it trains my resistance to stupidity, insult, blasphemes, lies, manipulation, indoctrination, and teach me to stay calm in the face of such assault

6) with one button, they are gone.

7) the graphics, animations are nice

8) I love to see stupid people struggle in total cognitive dissonance, unable to understand what is going around them

9) it's fun

10) the music is good

11) even better is what they omit, lie by omission is my favorite

12) their locution is excellent (compared to a potus that can't make a speech with falling, pathetic btw)

13) and worst of me, it's a brand that will be saved once the take over is done, it's great battlefield for competing interest trying to influence idiots :D.

ahaha. 0 respect for them.

Long Live the MIC, Guardians of the C and BoR.

my advice: turn your tv off, and come on bitcointalk have good great fun discussion on any subject your want with real PEOPLE. you will learn more, you will not be passive, you will enjoy more, and ultimately be FREE, and even better once your activity is enough be rewarded in BTC :D.

I think the US really need to sort out their gun laws, this kind of stuff happening in the most powerful country in the world is awful!

Gun Control is the need of the Hour. It should be implemented without any delay.

Uh, nope. It's not the guns. It's the people who are crazy who need help.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199724.msg12592897#msg12592897

What is wrong with people that can't live with others who think differently? Sad. At least we have the right to carry protection against these nuts.

Unless you are a security guard, with no gun, on that campus.

Why is everyone talking about The Victims and not The Hero?

Can crazy people or drugs be blamed for it all? Don't other countries have the same problems but with less people being killed like that?


Didn't he say that exactly? That he was tired of giving the same speech every time it happened. And that he was going to keep on pushing for a solution instead. Don't know if he is doing all he can to solve the problem. But not even talking about it and ignoring there is a problem is worse. And is this right: https://www.rt.com/usa/317469-mass-shootings-frequent-usa ? 1 mass shooting a day, where 4 or more people are killed? That's insane.

Most of them, yes. Rarely do you see someone who's mentally healthy and not taking drugs go on a mass-murder spree. Even the president is saying to stop allowing those who have mental issues from getting guns. That's where the problem lies, but it's not the cause, it's a symptom.

The cause is that we have so many mentally unstable people in the country who snap. Most people are on a drug or 2 and side effects happen also. But I think it's partly because Big Pharma is pumping them out and doctors are getting kick backs and no one wants to solve issues, they want to curb symptoms, so that they'll keep making money.

I don't expect sane people would do things like this. But other countries have crazy people too. They just don't have an easy way for people to get guns. And maybe it's a symptom like you say but wouldn't some regulation help stop this problem? Looks like that is better than nothing.


Don't know if that is the source of the problem. For example didn't australia have a big problem with guns too until they restricted who could get them?

So we agree the problem is people who are mentally unstable. The United States obviously have more crazy people (which could arguably be because of the pills/side affects and other things). Because if someone is crazy and wants to kill people, they won't stop because they can't get guns. They'll get something else.

This guy went crazy and didn't want to kill people but wanted to destroy some buildings:

"Marvin Heemeyer was an American welder and an automobile muffler repair shop owner most known for his rampage with a modified bulldozer. Outraged over the outcome of a zoning dispute, he armored a Komatsu D355A bulldozer with layers of steel and concrete and used it on June 4, 2004 to demolish the town hall, the former mayor's house, and other buildings in Granby, Colorado. The rampage ended when the bulldozer got stuck in the basement of a Gambles store he was in the process of destroying. Heemeyer then killed himself with a handgun." (link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer)) - https://youtu.be/PZbG9i1oGPA?t=5m38s

People are inventive. If there's a need (in their crazy minds) then they will find a way to do something about it.


I don't know about Australia's guns. I do know some people in other countries feel like sitting ducks because they can't protect themselves from the crazy people now.

Criminals will still be able to get guns. We should solve the problem from the beginning not try to bandage wounds.

I don't know if america has more crazy people than other countries. And maybe they would use something else to kill others. But not having easy ways to do it helps.


Not everyone can get an armored bulldozer. Inventive ways to kill people are harder than picking up a gun and shooting.


Maybe. I don't know if we agree on what the source of the problem is. But if there is over-prescription of drugs or something that should be addressed. But why is regulation a problem? Doesn't it already happen in some ways? For example is it legal for people to have rocket launchers and stuff like that?

No. 

They played the emotional card after a single grisly event, in order to take away all the guns.

Yes there is a lot of regulation on guns. That's why it's silly to be debating taking away the guns from people who follow the law like it solves anything. The criminals still get guns.

Look, you know there'd be lots of advantages to taking away the guns.  First of all, that'd mean we could collect more taxes - they wouldn't have to spend money on guns and bullets.  And all of our police would be so much safer.  Sure, there'd be some complaining from the usual complainers - people who notice increases in rapes and murders and assaults, those kinds of people.

But hey, it's not about people LIKING our controlling their lives so we get the maximal cash and good stuff from them.  Think in terms of herding the cattle.  How would that work if the cattle all had guns and could shoot each other?  Or even worse, if they decided to shoot us?

Roseburg Beacon Publisher: Obama WILL NOT Be Welcomed at Umpqua College Funerals


Published on Oct 5, 2015
David Jacques, publisher of the Roseburg Beacon, told Bill O'Reilly on Monday that the people of Roseburg would not welcome Barack Obama if he came to town to politicize the funerals of the Umpqua College shooting victims.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-fS9SBLTGk

Roseburg, OR Residents Organize Protest Against Obama’s Visit: “Defend Roseburg – Deny Barack Obama”



The anointed one his majesty king 0bama and the White House have announced a Friday arrival in Roseburg, Oregon in the wake of Oct 1st's horrific tragedy at UCC.

Polarizing as usual, Mr 0bama has insisted on politicizing the event as a conduit for increased executive orders on gun control via means of his pen, and his phone.

This blatant disrespect of the victims families, the community and the town of Roseburg, Mr 0bama's administration is flying not just the 747 that is airforce one to Oregon, but a three helicopter team of Sikorsky's that make up HMX-1, known as Marine one to travel to Roseburg at the taxpayers expense.

We need a lot of people. Please come show your support for Roseburg, not the little man who has no respect for the constitution.


https://www.facebook.com/events/1642689462646090/

That is why these people choose a campus. It is a safe zone for active shooters. The victums in this case followed the mindless training they received. That is they shut the classroom door and pretended everything will be ok. In the end it takes guns to stop an active shooter and anything less is self delusion.

Video: Facebook For Idiots: "Super Hero" Chris Mintz Fooled America For A "Merry Christ Mess".  (https://youtu.be/N59vbk-KODE)

"The Umpqua College Shooting Hoax has really upset me this time and for a fraud (insert Chris Mintz here) to take everyone's money and run from a weak on-line crowd sourcing sight really bothers me and I have to expose a fraud hoax affiliated with Facebook and GoFundMe on top of an American gun control shooting hoax agenda. "

You know in fact that at least one student was armed?

John Parker, a 36-year-old military veteran, was on campus during the tragic and terrifying Oregon mass shooting at Umpqua Community College Thursday, and he was carrying a concealed handgun. But in interviews after the incident, he explained why he did not attempt to intervene and take down the killer himself.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2465730/oregon-shooting-john-parker-armed-vet-on-ucc-campus-says-shooting-killer-would-have-been-bad-idea/#MSsKO5jL92azrurR.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/2465730/oregon-shooting-john-parker-armed-vet-on-ucc-campus-says-shooting-killer-would-have-been-bad-idea/#MSsKO5jL92azrurR.99)

Anyways, I will recognize that the security personnel should be trained in firearm use and should have access to one should such an emergency go down. I do think that it's not exactly necessary for campus security to be armed 24/7, but that's debatable.

Video: Oregon UCC: Event Busted Wide Open! Chris Mintz busted!!  (https://youtu.be/ufAQW5LJFlc)

https://i.imgur.com/ka5I7HR.png

No. I did not know that. Although he could not really respond legally anyway. He said he was "quite a distance away from the building the shooter was in". Your CC licenses does not give you the right to respond to a crime, only protect yourself and others from a threat "in your immediate presence".
Moving to the threat and shooting could be called murder.

Video: Mainstream News actually used Sandy Hook footage for their coverage of this Oregon shooting (https://youtu.be/Oe2x5Cg5zhY)

Sandyhook white sign in the image, and "Chris Harper Mercer" on the channel 5 info on the bottom....

https://i.imgur.com/uAVcHWq.png

adding onto that, for CC license holders, using their firearm should be a last resort to protect yourself and others. having a firearm does not make or obligate one to be a hero and run into a building guns blazing; people really seem to forget this fact.

in addition, there is also this:
"Parker also noted that the SWAT team on the scene could have easily mistaken him, or anyone else with a drawn weapon, for a shooter — a mistake which likely would have resulted in police shooting him.
“If we had our guns ready to shoot they could think we were the bad guys,” Parker said in the interview."

this guy did the smart thing; even if he did manage to charge in there without having the SWAT mistake him  for the shooter, he likely could have made the situation worse by intervening.

Father of Oregon Shooting Victim: We Will Not Be Attending Obama’s Exploitive Gun Control Visit…






Tomorrow President Obama is scheduled to visit Rosenburg, Oregon, where 10 people were killed last week at Umpqua Community College by a deranged killer who happened to use a gun to carry out his crimes.

We've already reported on the repulsed reaction from the community as people who live there continue to reject Obama's visit. Now Stacy Boylan, the father of shooting victim Ana Boylan, is directly speaking out against Obama's visit and has no interest in putting up with his exploitation of the tragedy for political purposes.

"I do believe it was Rahm Emanuel who said 'Never let a good tragedy go to waste,' and I really feel that his [Obama] visit here is to completely to support his gun control agenda. I can't understand why he wouldn't make a mention of the families and the victims. I mean, he did say that it was a tragic incident and I do thank him for lowering the flags but he made it all about gun control. He was very clear about that and we saw this in Sandy Hook and now we're seeing it again and I just question his motives," Boylan said. "I've spoken to my family and for myself and for my family, my daughter and son, on principle I find that we are in disagreement with his policies on gun control and therefore we will not be attending the visit."

"My position on this is that gun free zones are an issue, they're a target for crazy people because they know they're not going to be met with resistance. You know, my daughter said to me, 'What if somebody would have had a gun?' Gun free and gun control takes that option off the table. Somebody doesn't have to use their gun in defense, but to take that option entirely, I don't think that's the right course," he continued.

Boylan said his daughter is recovering from her physical injuries and is still processing what happened.



http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/10/07/father-of-oregon-shooting-victim-obama-is-visiting-for-his-gun-control-agenda-not-for-us-n2062550

Yes, of course. I'm only pointing out the flaw in saying that the shooter targeted the university because it was a place where no firearms were allowed. When it comes to these kinds of shootings, it seems to mostly take place somewhere that the shooter wants to direct anger at. He also had a very important thing to say, something along the lines of "the responders could have confused me for the shooter", something I think is likely to happen in crowded places as well. That's something that helps show that "only a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun" narrative pushed by lobbyist isn't as important. There was a stat about the vast majority of (mass?) shootings ending before the police (or any "good guy with a gun") interfere. I cant find it, though I found this article (http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/) about shooting stopped by people on-site.
I understand it's for self-defense, not stopping people from committing crimes. But then, that talking point about the "good guys with guns" always comes up. Sadly, we do need armed campus security, but they have to be careful to have the people protecting the students from that threat be properly trained. Have them know how and when to use it.

How come the shooter did not target an NRA club or a police station? Because: too many guns. Those p.o.s. are cowards, but not stupid.

I am going to have to quote myself, I guess: When it comes to these kinds of shootings, it seems to mostly take place somewhere that the shooter wants to direct anger at.

If I remember correctly, he did attend that university. Reminds me of shootings like the one army base that was shot up twice... by the people who had been stationed there.
Now, I would like to (again) state that the security should have had at lease one well-trained official with access to a gun. But the university is not, and never was a gun-free zone. I don't think it would have played a role, and I will agree with you that those P.O.S. cowards are not stupid enough to run into NRA clubs and police stations guns blazing. Does that mean that we should have every school, university and theater to be filled with people with firearms? Because that's a "solution" that I think would yield bad results.

every 2 minutes, someone is injured by a drunk or drunk driver. ( government statistics). We need stricter alcohol laws. Stupid people carry guns, and stupid people drink too much. Guns are not bad unless they get in the hands of one of these stupid people

Video: Umpqua CC: More Damning proof plus Bullet/Bellybutton nail in the coffin! (https://zeekly.com/video/3782/Umpqua-CC-More-Damning-proof-plus-BulletBellybutton-nail-in-the-coffin)

Pic of belly button he's trying to call a bullet wound. (https://i.imgur.com/v0CCbKQ.png)

although i believe that if a person wants to own a firearm, they should be allowed to, people should be required to go through much more than a course or a background check before being allowed to purchase a firearm. however, i dont think this comparison with alcohol is really valid here; alcohol is more or less accepted in today's society, and i dont expect much debate to come out of the topic, whereas guns are an incredibly controversial topic, even more so now with the shootings.

As an EMT I have treated bullet wounds and that looks like a bullet wound to me.  ???
It's also in the wrong place for a belly button, which are found on the belly. That hole is just inferior of the intercostal arch, over the liver.  Bet it hurt like hell.