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Peeple’s app isn’t out yet and it’s already hated (for good reason)




Launching in November, the Peeple app will let you rate everyone you know. Yeah, everyone.

Following an article by the Washington Post, revealing the real-life burn book, it has rapidly become one of the most hated apps on the internet (this week).

Founded by Julia Cordray and Nicole McCullough, the pair launched an online documentary series on August 9, following their hopeful 90 day journey of getting funding in Silicon Valley and bringing their “dream” to fruition. However, with some videos having less than 100 views, it wasn’t until the Washington Post interview was published that anyone really started to care what the pair were up to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-PmOPwP4tY


Although the app itself follows the formula of thousands of social apps – rating everything from your dinner to your bowel movements – it poses a very scary vision; Imagine everything you ever did was suddenly open to be reviewed online, without your knowledge. I mean, did McCullough and Cordray learn nothing from the tragedies of apps like ask.FM and Secret?

Whether their intentions are good or not, it really doesn’t feel well thought out. The pair have essentially created defamation-as-a-service.

And people are naturally worried. Unlike Cordray and McCullough who presumably are happy with the app’s open door policy and have nothing to hide, other people don’t feel the need to seek public approval for their life choices or behaviour.

As a self-described “trendy lady”, Cordray told the Washington Post that the app is about showcasing your character online. This is slightly different to what McCullough said – that as a mother of two, she wanted to be able research and decide who to trust with her kids.

Both are legitimate things to want to do, but we can showcase our characters on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram perfectly fine and still maintain a level of control over what can and can’t be seen. And when it comes to professionally researching people – LinkedIn and Google are perfectly sufficient tools, which can also be used in conjunction with other referencing tools and social media profiles to get a rounded image of a person.

When you drill into the app’s terms and conditions, it just gets worse. In the FAQ section, it states that you cannot remove yourself from the Peeple database, but the company “may consider this feature in the future.”




The site is quick to address concerns of negative reviews stating that they don’t go live immediately and won’t be seen publicly, only to people who sign up for the app. I struggle to see how that’s comforting. That means there is nothing stopping anyone from going on and bad mouthing someone else and the person could remain completely oblivious. Isn’t that like the definition of what bullying is?

And for an app that values public discussion and opinion, its founders appear to be backtracking on that idea, as an image circulating shows Cordray allegedly asking how to shut down comments on the app’s Facebook page.




http://thenextweb.com/opinion/2015/10/01/peeples-app-isnt-out-yet-and-its-already-hated-for-good-reason/


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Peeple is 4chan's wet dream...

Wow. I'm just at a loss for more on this subject right now...

Read the full article and the push back from the ladies... Stunning. I can't do much about people saying stuff about me online... But to have someone, anyone, knowing your phone number and build a profile of you, profile you cannot delete, is beyond absurd... People will think twice before giving away business cards to total strangers...

Attaching it to a phone number is silly beyond words too. I still get messages from people who are texting the wrong person because they wrote the wrong number in, so profiles could be set up on the wrong number. It looks like they will text the number saying a profile was set up, but nothing beyond that. I don't know why they don't require a code from the text to the phone for it to go live.

The whole thing looks like it's perfect for teenagers, perfect in that all the kids at school will be using it, and pushing the separation of teens to the limits, pushing them into cliques, and leading to increasing suicide rates from bullying.

... Or worse. Going "postal"...

You know, I can see this thing taking-off big-time...Again, with the direction we are headed, I don't want to imagine what this country - or world, for that matter - will look like in another 5 or 10 years.

I have no doubts this app will be very very popular.

I can see this app pissing off a load of people.

I will give five stars to robert duskes  :)

As long as you have his cell phone number...

Wouldn't you be safe as long as you just don't install the application?

I don't think that part would matter.  If they really wanted to piss everyone off and gain more traction (I think this is what they actually would want to do) I think if you aren't in the system already they would just make a new review and put your name on it which then they will make you apart of the system; whether you want to be on there or not.  This way, if/when you find out you are on there, it will make you want to get the app and dispute the bad claim or possibly just see what the person said.

But yeah, this is going to be bad... I can feel it.

Exactly. I cannot see anyone having made this app having good intentions. They seem to have "sold their soul" to get money. Make an app that teens, and tweens need to use because of peer pressure and the usual amount of "popular" people who will want to rate their friends to be on top, and then rag on the others, leading to the others to commit suicide or fall into depression.

This shouldn't be allowed. I'm against banning things, I believe in no censorship, except when it hurts someone. A profile for a person should not be able to be created without their consent. Period.

But that's obviously the point of this app from hell.

Wonder how this app will go over with all the anti bully groups?  I am sure there will be some suicides over it.  Somewhere sometime anyways.

Yes. Facebook is good enough if you want to participate in it. How would the system know all those 5 stars reviews are saying how of a bad, evil human you are. It would not. They say a bad review won't be posted. Then people will post only 5 stars reviews, with bad comments in it. For adults it is pretty bad. For teens, female teens, it will be hell.

Yeah, I saw that. Everyone will just post 5 stars to get the crap posted. I think I heard or read here (I forget) that the company has one whole YEAR to deal with complaints too. As if that would help any of the tweens/teens. A week in HS can feel like a year in hell depending on what's going on with the school population.

They also said that any review (negitive) 2 stars or less have to be reviewed by the poster and the reviewee.  They have 24 hours to battle it out and then it gets posted if they cant settle. 

Like I said in a previous post.  I think this app might be a bad idea and I can see teen suicide rate increasing over this.

The users will just give everyone 5 stars and write horrible things in the comments, and it will slide by without getting reviewed.

I don't just think this is a bad idea. I know it is.

Here is a link to a petition to ask Apple and Google to ban this app if you are so inclined.


https://www.change.org/p/apple-google-inc-ban-the-launch-of-the-peeple-application?recruiter=397155392&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

good thing i havent got a phone

I don't even know what to say anymore. It seems like most of the society is becoming addicted to likes, tweets and other nonsense from social networking. Here's the quote from my profile and it is very fitting:
This app is going to lead to nothing but problems. I don't see any possible good that could come out of this. It's quite unfortunate that people are obsessed with these things. I just do not understand how such minds operate? There were times that I felt like an 'alien' since everyone around me cared about 'similar nonsense'. Luckily, I moved away from where I used to live and tied 99% of the ties.

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I concur.

God damn, I hope this never comes out!

People get so torn up when the stuff they do on the internet, behind the safety of a computer screen, is suddenly in the public spotlight. If the internet is public, why shouldn't people be subject to the consequences of the public viewing of their pictures or statements?

This app could have a very good effect,

1. It could result in a cleansing of the crap that people post on the internet.

2. It could result in people being NICER to each other on the internet, for fear that if they're an asshole they'll be called out for it.

There's a consequence to everything, at a minimum this app helps people understand that point. And at a minimum I think that's a good thing.

If people don't like what they app does they should decide not to use it.

There's nothing stopping the public from putting a profile about the app's developer or CEO on their app to leave all of the constructive feedback for...

So tell me what happens to teenage girls or boys that are depressed or something when someone starts a witch hunt against them? I'm pretty sure that as with every network there will be fake profiles and they enable one to be flamed by many users. This app is just calling for trouble.

The problem is that someone else can create your profile.

Thank you - I signed.

This is will eventually (sooner rather than later) lead to suicides, especially among the vulnerable youth.

Some people don't understand what would happen in schools, no matter how much someone would choose to ignore a horrible profile for themselves that they did not create, people in school will bring it up, constantly. They will be teased about it, nonstop. Someone could say this one girl was a "Slut" name of names of people she's supposedly slept with, and it would follow her around. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, teens will believe anything, or if you say the lie through enough people, enough times, people will believe it.

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” - Adolf Hitler (http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/553-if-you-tell-a-big-enough-lie-and-tell-it)

The worst people in school know this. That's why there are always rumors in high school. This is just amplifying their voice 100 times.

This app will lead to deaths. I signed the petition yesterday too. It's almost to the goal and was only created a few days ago. The problem is, even if the petition is seen, will it matter? Or will Apple and Google ignore it because they'll make lots of money.

Because if someone hates their profile, you know what they may end up doing? Getting sucked into it, themselves, and focus on trying to clean it up. Whatever ads there are or price of the app will be paid more by people annoyed or distraught trying to "fix" things than the ones just having fun with people's lives. Yes it can be a money maker, but it's blood money.

I think the maker of the app knows what she's doing and will literally burn in hell for this.

I agree with you: this apps has only minimums, zero maximums...

 8)

They only need 77 75 more people to sign. I think that's the fastest I've seen a petition fill up in my life. :)

Just signed... only 60 more to go "peeple"!! ;)

The problem isn't gathering people to sign it. I'm pretty sure if we all shared it around within our social networks (whoever has one) that a higher number could be reached. The question is will Google and Apple listen?

What is the success rate of such polls?

If Hell is unleashed no matter what then... This was in purpose.

Yeah, we can only wait and see. I have no idea the success of petitions and I'm sure they have varied results.

http://www.businessinsider.com/peeple-no-longer-online-2015-10?utm_source=change_org&utm_medium=petition


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Mark my word. That monster will try to come back with another face...

The website is there, they had too many e's according to the comments: http://forthepeeple.com/

You know there's a great way to avoid all that kind of bullshit, don't take part, people just don't seem to get that, I have a very specific criteria I follow now whenever taking part in conversations with the public online.

. There must always be an ignore function so I can block people who spam me or try to harass me through PM's

. Mods/Staff must either be extremely relaxed or none existent and allow for all forms of free speech and debate

. Privacy above all else must be respected and protected

. I shouldn't have to enter in real information about myself or potentially sensitive information in order to take part ( falls in line with privacy but there are many sites that claim to privacy and then ask you private information in order to join )

I agree that apps like this are particularly bad but I don't think that it's even about what they claim, it just seems to me like a massive and convenient way for companies to do data farming on every aspect of our lives. Be it intelligence agencies or marketing companies and everybody feeds them every single piece of information they have without a second thought.

What I find more amazing is that it's taken a stupid app like this to finally make people wake up and realise the con social networks are.

You won't have a choice with peeple.

It's not really up to you as someone else can create your profile. Someone has already explained this in the thread. There won't be that much impact on the grown ups. However, the youth (already vulnerable) will be damaged. It's going to be very hard to "ignore" it when everyone is talking about it (read the other post).

I suppose you're right, but the thing is this isn't anything new, I realise this app is making it easier but people can still blatantly Doxx somebody on the internet and it's regularly done regardless of what the other persons says or even what the law says.

I laughed a bit
All the death threats the app creator decides to launch it a month earlier to spite them or I guess rate them but they backed down.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/06/peeple-ratings-app-removes-contentious-features-boring

Thanks for the link. :)

"....But according to a posting on LinkedIn from the app’s developer, a former recruitment executive named Julia Cordray, the app that hit stores might be less controversial than what was previously announced: “You will NOT be on our platform without your explicit permission. There is no 48-hour waiting period to remove negative comments. There is no way to even make negative comments. Simply stated, if you don’t explicitly say ‘approve recommendation’, it will not be visible on our platform.”

The new direction leaves the app having more in common with purely positive ranking apps such as Klout and LinkedIn itself."

Peeple, the controversial app that promised to let users “review” other people and give them a rating out of five, has softened its offering just weeks before its planned launch.

The company had previously scheduled the launch of the new social app, dubbed “Yelp for people”, for November this year. Revealed in early October, the app promised users the ability to “revolutionise the way we’re seen in the world through our relationships”.

Users could assign a star rating and feedback to anyone they knew, positive or negative, and the ratee could do very little about it. Every negative review would have been live for at least 48 hours, and in order to remove them, an individual would be encouraged to contest a negative review, leading to accusations that the app would become a libellous quagmire and a harasser’s dream.

Following the criticism, Peeple’s website and social media feeds were blanked out, leading to speculation that the app was never going to see the light of day – or even that the whole thing was a hoax. But instead, it looks like it’s still on-track to launch, even earlier than expected: the new website gives a date of 12 October for the app’s release.

But according to a posting on LinkedIn from the app’s developer, a former recruitment executive named Julia Cordray, the app that hit stores might be less controversial than what was previously announced: “You will NOT be on our platform without your explicit permission. There is no 48-hour waiting period to remove negative comments. There is no way to even make negative comments. Simply stated, if you don’t explicitly say ‘approve recommendation’, it will not be visible on our platform.”

The new direction leaves the app having more in common with purely positive ranking apps such as Klout and LinkedIn itself.


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Then this app has lost its uniqueness and became another wannabe...

In other words it got Trumped  ;)
I had to throw in a Republican jab since Trump just sounds like the ideal name for it, but it would make for good branding.
Rate and review your network and tell people Your Fired because its those Peeple: The app of the 1%

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/canadian-creator-revamping-controversial-human-rating-app-peeple-1.2598989
The only information on the Peeple website, as of Wednesday morning, is an Oct. 12 release date and the option to join a waiting list for the app.
That will be fun.

overall this is a terrible idea, huge potential negative it could have on innocent people

how about microsoft? they will ban too?

How about Microsoft? Microsoft scandal: maybe having a built in spy network in the OS. Not a built in teenage suicide machine like peeple.

I can see it now, Microsoft Peeple rate your friends in a variety of social situations leave reviews oh wait msn pages.
That said a spy network OS that reviews people would be an interesting Windows 10 feature.

That's already in progress. The powers that be are the ones who see the information though, not us.

People are getting meaner and dumber, anyone else noticing this? I would never use it

Really peeple is just giving form to the voice that's constantly going on in my head when I'm out in public. I walk down the street and look at all the people I pass by
I'm like; "asshat, dweeb, jerkoff, moron... Hang on a sec, she's alright... Loser, homo, idiot "etc
Like that. All day.

These guys just turned it into an app

I'll totally download it for sure

Peeple, the notorious "Yelp for people" app, arrives


 It generated controversy and criticism when word of it first broke back in October, even though Peeple, a people-rating mobile app that's been described as like "Yelp for people," hadn't launched yet. Now, after a number of tweaks to the concept, the people-rating app finally launched today.

Peeple is available to download for free for iPhones or iPads. The app -- which is not affiliated with the popular review site Yelp -- was created by two friends in Calgary, Canada, and allows users to rate other users in three categories: personal, professional, and romantic.

The idea is to provide "a reference check for the people around us," the creators say on their website. "The Peeple app allows you to better choose who you hire, do business with, date, become your neighbours, roommates, landlords/tenants, and watch, teach, and care for your children."

However, the idea of people posting "reviews" of their neighbors, coworkers, dates and others prompted outrage from critics who saw its potential for abuse as an outlet for bullying or cyber revenge. It became a hot topic on social media, where the prolific tweeter Chrissy Teigen wrote, "In an age where both truth and gossip on the Internet can literally ruin lives, this #peeple app is horrible AND scary."

Perhaps in response to that round of criticism last fall, the Peeple app going public today will not allow users to rate others without their permission. Reviews will only be published with the consent of the person being reviewed. A user can also hide his or her negative reviews. In addition, users must post under their real names, to help encourage civility and accountability.

That being said, a planned future paid subscription option -- the "truth license," co-creator Julia Cordray told the Calgary Herald -- will allow users to access every review, even those that are hidden.

Obviously, this future feature will generate plenty of controversy on its own, but for now, the Peeple that is out now is much tamer than what was originally planned. The "truth license" is being planned for an April release, Cordray said.

"If a mom wants to look up a coach for her kids, she can see all the amazing things on that person's profile, but maybe there's some areas of improvement for that person," Cordray told the newspaper. "So, when the mom upgrades to the truth license, she'll be able to see all the recommendations on the back-end that the coach never published in their profile."

On its website, Peeple stresses that it does not want to be used as a platform for attacking others. "We do not tolerate profanity, bullying ... name calling, degrading comments, abuse, derogatory comments, sexual references, racism, legal references, hateful content, sexism, and other parameters" the company says.

Even with adjustments to the current version of the app, social media users have been showing some skepticism.

On the official Peeple Facebook page, one commenter wrote: "When character becomes currency, humanity suffers. We are not metrics, and you cannot ethically justify ranking humans against normative social ideals. We are #PeopleNotPeeple."

For its part, Peeple responded: "You can share the recommendations you receive to build your online reputation in social media. That's what we mean by Character becomes currency for you. We are not ranking people you write recommendations about them. Try the app to see what it really is about."

Peeple is available through iTunes today, while an Android version is on its way.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/peeple-the-yelp-for-people-app-launches/


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Let's destroy some lives...

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