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On the 20th of last month, I made a mistake which I regret so much, and which leaves me so puzzled. I decided to buy 20 BTC out of any escrow service(namecalling accepted) and made contact with a certain guy in Pakistan. The deal was that, the guy would load 20 BTC into the wallet, give me logins, and then after verifying BTC were there, would do my part. I paid the guy via bank transfer, and expected a 3 day wait before he would provide the private key and I would take the Bitcoins. Rate offered was pretty good and as soon as I did the transfer, I got a bad feeling and the first thing I did was to put extra security to the account(2FA) etc so that I would be covered. So the guy could not access the Wallet , even though he had kept the private key. As expected, the money arrived and no private key was provided. However, I knew I was the one who was stuck so just buried my head and accepted my loss, making sure he would not still access the 20 BTC. There was then a turn of events, funds started getting into this wallet address which I had locked, , it was first a 20 BTC deposit, but now the balance has balooned to 212 BTC. I sent him a message asking him why he was still depositing to a wallet he had no access to, and he simply said its from miner. So i ended up wondering how this was logical and in the end I suspected he may not even be the owner of the wallet. so now, I am seeking ideas because this 212 BTC will probably lie idle for good. Here is the wallet address,

18U76Dc9KqQtvAFZmxKQU5FxCXQS149FKz

Any help appreciated, and will give away half of the coins if something can be done. If I find the real owner, will only take my 20

wow 212 BTC thats massive, dont know what to do with double spend like this but would love the giveaway  :D :D

Be aware , may be he is trying to steal the coins from that wallet by searching someone who can unlock the wallet and can reveal the private key of above stated btc address.

Not taking anything away from what you are saying, if i have stolen the wallet, why is bitcoin still being sent to it?

Its pretty odd that you are on a newbie acct and your 1st post is this story. Assuming you might be telling the truth I think you'd need to show some proof before anyone took you serious. Maybe post screenshots of the bank transfer and the messages between you and the other party

Well its not about being a first post, and you believing it or not doesnt matter, my point is those BTC are lying thrre and will probably never be used. I joined the forum specifically to share the story. So no pun intended but those that need to take me serious are free to do so

this is a very good idea so people will start to think about it seriously, theres a double spend alert on this wallet

To good to be true. Another troll to get us all excited about an imaginary transaction and everybody salivating like a dog with rabies.

I wonder how its too good to be true, the coins are locked forever

Who provided the escrow ? Was it from this forum ? If so also post in Scam Accusations the full details of how this happened it will help others not fall into the same trap.

So basically
1. some guy created a wallet on blockchain.info, added a watch only address with 20 btc in it and gave you login to the wallet
2. you sent him fiat money and set 2fa on a wallet
3. he didn't give you a private key

What this means: You don't have any control over the address, you can't block it. He controls the address. You have been scammed and, unless you can find the guy, that's it.  

To do what you wanted correctly, that is, capability to block the address if no key is provided:
make the other party send btc to a 2-of-2 multisig address (google it), one key yours, one his. He will either give you the key/sign a transaction or the funds will be locked.  

so basically you want us to find the seller for you or we guess the private key for that address you had provided? :o

there are question from me  :)
what this address 18U76Dc9KqQtvAFZmxKQU5FxCXQS149FKz from you?  if this address 18U76Dc9KqQtvAFZmxKQU5FxCXQS149FKz from you and created by blockchain and you can not access your blockchain, maybe I can help you  ;)

yes maybe :-\

If you don't own the private key you don't own the bitcoins. I think you got scammed. There is no way to access the bitcoin if you don't know the private key. Just move on.

So, basically, the guy created your account and set a warch-only address?  That's what I'm seeing unless I missed something.

I don't Believe in the story of OP , In technical Term if you don't have Private Keys of the address then you don't own the coins of that Wallet.

I think it is only another fake account created only for the purpose to post/spam a lot o messages in this thread (by who is enrolled in a sig. campaign). But maybe I'm wrong....

I have some question for you:
1. Why you make new account for this problem?
2. From what you said, i think you're really careless to make some 2fa on that random wallet address, and not transfer it to another wallet on that day too.
3. You said it balooned from 20 BTC to 212 BTC and it is from a mining profit?? You're make mistake on here.
You only got 1 wallet address when buy some BTC on store. Your profit from mining will not targeted on that new random address. Why you not use your original wallet address if you want buy some goods more than 1 BTC ?
4. Where do you bought this 20 BTC? you must invite the seller or give their website address for make sure this serious thing. If you forget, then it make sure you are not the owner of the wallet.
5. I think this is very serious problem. 246 BTC is not small money. and you looks so calm now.
6. Can you give another wallet address which you have access to it? I wanna make sure how many BTC you've got on the another wallet. Based from your story telling, this is just random address 18U76Dc9KqQtvAFZmxKQU5FxCXQS149FKz and not your real address.
7. "Your random wallet address" (i don't think this is yours) get warning from blockchain: Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address.

https://i.imgur.com/Yj12ipn.jpg

I agreed on this one and this may be the case here

reason reasonable, but with see 4 activity in their profile it give only chances +- 30% that this OP is fake account who only used for following signature campaign.

or if you assuming that there are some commentator in this thread which is original owner from OP account, then who is it?
kampretkabur, letyouearn, Nobitcoin, Hexcoin, monbux, zeraTunerse or me

yeah, this is just my opinion without any offend anyone :)

monbux  :o ::) is the original owner. :-\

one word sayings
"be Carefull"

That sounds about right.

Unfortunately this kind of scam is attempted fairly often, and AFAICT has very little success, however through the eyes of a new user of Bitcoin the setup sounds legitimate and new users would be the ones to fall for it if they are not warned sufficiently quickly. 

i dont quite understand if you and the seller cant use it and you are both talking whats the problem... or the whole  thing is a wash

I think that the seller had a watch-only  wallet, the seller used that to exchange between him and OP. OP got scammed in fiat but seller didn't have any bitcoin at all.

please don't troll me sir  :)

This makes some sense, but my worry is, initially it was only 20 btc, yesterday when i opened the thread it was 205, now its 246, why are bitcoins still being sent to the wallet? I have 2fa for the wallet. I just dont understand what the guy is doing. He has not blocked me from contact and generally answers  my chats, but am wondering why he is so calm when 246 bitcoins are lying in that wallet nd he may never have access to them, i dont know if im missing something

are there any outoing transactions from the wallet? i know you say you have 2fa enabled but check to see if any outgoing transactions have happened. the guy may have a way around the 2fa and would show why he is not worried and is so calm

There are no outgoing even though i received an email from blockchain saying there was a transaction declined, its not only 2fa, the wallet is secured to my ip as well

then is does seem odd that hes replying to your messages and keeping contact but not releasing any money to you.

Why not call bank and grt wire back?

Have done so, may take 90days

If you payed with bank transfer, you should know at least the real name of the guy. If you are in a same country you could maybe find a lawyer and try to force him to pay it back.
OK, you set the 2FA on that account. Is it a web account or more secure one?
 Is it possible that he continues to scam others and this is why BTC is still being sent to that account?

just send the btc to this adress 12854DSCRTpxTGXXJiZsVMZY9W9eNAtqYk :D then everything will be good  ;D

Either OP got scammed hard or is just trolling people to waste their time. Either way, this thread is pretty much pointless for now.

The OP hope to get helped from "genius-EthicHacker" and split the amount of BTC on that address.
"18U76Dc9KqQtvAFZmxKQU5FxCXQS149FKz"
100 BTC for the "genius-EthicHacker" and the rest goes to his new wallet address.

I'm sorry from my late post that accuse you as a scammer, helpneeded101 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559411)
But now, you are really a scammer.

If you are really the owner of the wallet. You'll complain with my late post. And give your "brief explanation or answer".
But, you not.

So this was only a fake story with a strange bitcoin address involved or I have missed the point?
Helpneeded101 has not needed help at all, was only entertaining us thats nice :)

well, tell me what help i have managed to get so far

Ok no one believe in this story so is this op necessary to get neg rep?? Since this case seems like he is trying to own someone addrress that he claim like the story above.

As already said by others, it is a watch-only address (can you check whether it actually is?) and the address is controlled by some other guy (not you, not him). Why do you bother if he mines them ???
Those bitcoins aren't his, so why should he be worried?

You got to understand what private key is lol. :D



Wow. :P
Even if this guy really had 20BTC on that account, he doesn't need to access the wallet secured with your "2FA" since he already has the private key.

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tl;dr simple version.
1. You are given a wallet that simply shows the balance of an address the other guy picked to scam you.
2. You see the balance and sends him the amount.


Some facts:
1. This guy does not or did not ever control that address.
2. Anyone with the private key of an address can access the address. So if I give you a wallet loaded with a private key, and you secure that wallet, I can simply use another wallet, load the private key into it and use the funds.

Ok now someone find me the private key for this address https://blockchain.info/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF