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Please see my most recent post to the thread on page 4.


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Thanks for the pictures Monkeynuts  :)

what is a cas void or press coin?

He handed out some demo coins (they had red over the public keys iirc).

Void coins different and rarer than the demo coins - look at this ANACS image. Holograms are still in tact.

http://anacs.s3.amazonaws.com/4630075-O.jpg

These were coins made for interviews Mike did. These surface very very rarely.... Mintage I really dont know. But its low. I dont know whether that means 1's or 10's. But I have never seen anything stated. I have only ever seen 2 for sale. Missed the first, and traded for the second one

Mike mentioned them on his Wordpress

https://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/casascius-coin-production-featured-in-the-rise-and-rise-of-bitcoin/ (https://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/casascius-coin-production-featured-in-the-rise-and-rise-of-bitcoin/)
No one has asked this yet, but I am also seen “making” some coins. As my security policy totally prohibits creating real coins on camera, these coins do not contain real private keys – instead the paper shows the word “VOID” in bold, very clearly, through the window. I call them “voidcoins” or “presscoins”, as I allow the photographer to keep one or two of the completed ones if they wish. All such coins are 0.5 BTC denomination.

Thanks for the info monkeynuts, I'd never heard of a void / press coin before or seen one.

Is that your coin?

Damn, that looks very cool and is definitely the first of its kind that I have seen! Agreed, thanks for the info. monkeynuts!

I imagine these would be the second-rarest Casascius coins after the 1,000BTC 1 oz. Gold coins? If it is true that only a small handful were produced. Perhaps Mike could pop in here and provide some clarification?

Yep it's mine. Hands off !  :)

I didn't know these existed either.  Seems I can never collect them all!

Yeah, Monkeynuts was kind enough to inform me of their existence a few days ago and now I've been obsessing over them. Another coin I have to have added to the list...  :'(


Cmon... You know you want to sell it!  ;D

Everything has a price :D.

Wow that's one hell of a coin thanks again for sharing 8).

Dont worry I'd have to re-mortgage to afford that :D.

What would you guess it is valued at? Coins like that are sort of tough to price market wise. I would pay a few BTC for one, but not sure how high I would go.

You're right, coins like that are very tough to put a price on. Honestly it's what the individual is willing to sell it for. There's no multiplier or previous sale to really go off of. What I would be willing to pay is slightly higher than a few BTC depending on condition. They're unique and a good addition to any collection in my opinion.

I agree they are tough to price. Does anyone know how many there are?

I suppose unless one was put up for auction or for sale we'll never really know. I would go along with previous suggestions of a few BTC but again its what someones prepared to sell or buy for really.

I really doubt that Monkey would sell a coin like that off, I know I would keep that. Finding such a coin will be pretty hard to do as the people that have them are probably serious collectors.

I wouldn't sell it either unless I really needed the money and / or the offer was too good to refuse.

Well I bet if you offer something ridiculous like 10BTC he would go for it :o

I think we're jumping the gun here, he already said "hands off" so I assume that means he's not selling it anyway :D.

Given that these are so unknown, surprisingly even to the most avid of collectors, it's a keeper. Everything does have a price. Everyone will crack eventually. Even me.  ;)

My hope is that the journalists or photographers that were given these, valued them. It's quite possible that they wouldn't appreciate what they have. I hope they were not treated as normal blank or redeemed coins.

Knowing how many were done would be nice. But with no funding, and no uberbills, it's gonna be impossible to know how many survive from them.

Lol, could you imagine the mayhem that would happen if monkeynuts opened up an auction for this coin?  I know I wouldn't be a player in that high stakes game, but it would definitely be fun to watch... That kind of auction would for sure go down in history.

I may be missing something but couldn't Mike just tell us roughly how many of those were made and distributed. Although we can't be sure what the recipients did with them, we can at least get an idea of how many were made.

I doubt it would go anywhere near 10BTC for it. I am sure people will bid on it quite a bit, but nothing crazy.

I am in...

Same...

Lets do this Monkey! My opening bid is 2BTC + shipping.

Woah, I wasnt aware of this... It will be added to the Encyclopedia. Ill PM you Moneynuts

I'm surprised how many people have never heard of these, me included. Probably because none have been up for sale.

Looks like there are some serious players interested, I think it would make an interesting auction :P.

whoa whoa whoa ! Auction ? This is like feeding time at the zoo  :o

If there is an auction for one of these I would potentially be bidding rather than selling

I have a strong PM offer as it happens. Right now I am happy holding though

I will reach out to Mike and see if there are any mintage figures available (even if that is a ballpark figure)

What a great coin! Can't blame you for holding on to it!

You start to have a pretty decent Casascius collection Mr. Nuts.
Not sure even Goat have one of these babies.

I would trade for one of his gold 1000btc coins  ;D

I... didn't know these existed and I feel pretty bad about that. Jesus. That's a very nice coin you got there MonkeyNuts. I would never sell it, that I know for sure.

I am surprised how few knew about these coins! IIRC there are also some ones that have the red dot on them.

There are the blank 100 BTC bars ? The 8 that are none 2FA have a red dot on them.

Like this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291419942852 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291419942852)

(the 4 standard 100 blanks dont have the red dot, neither does the single never funded 1000 btc bar)

A mystery to me as well. If I owned one I'd be keeping it for longest of hauls. Check the excitement in this thread at this early a stage in the game.

Wow, never heard of or seen  these. Very cool. I hope you find them.

Anyone think the Casascius market is going to pick back up as we see the BTC price increase (it's had a very steady rise recently!)

That is cool, never heard of a void cas coin. Best of luck finding one! :)

EDIT: Mind if I add an Easter egg (http://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=voidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoidvoid) with your coin pic to the analyzer?

Go for it Naypalm, fine with me.

Elianite, if you want to use the pic for the encyclopedia, thats all good as well

Surprised noone else has stepped up saying they have one of these bad boys - whether for sale or not. Makes me think more rare than I first thought, or in the hands of people who may not 'really' know what they have, and who arent active 'coiners'. The distribution channels for these were not the normal for cas coins - generally meet in person, hand to hand exchange, potentially people from mainstream media - whether financial, technology, or just general news. I would love a link to any news articles / paper based media where these coins were pictured as part of the story, would add nice provenance to the coin. If anyone has one, I would appreciate it.

If they were mostly given away to media, I am sure they probably opened them up to see how they worked before throwing them away.

You're probably right or they're sitting at the back of a drawer or in a box in the attic and forgotten about. It wouldn't surprise me if there were very few in hand with someone that frequents here or has any interest in crypto.

I think you've got yourself a little gem there monkeynuts 8).

Well this thread certainly blew up... I've tried reaching out to a few members of the press who might have these. Hopefully a few pop up  ;D

Eodguy149 is going the smart way! Keep us posted. ;D

Bump  :)

Any luck hunting down a roll of these void coins?

On a serious note, I find it interesting to hear if anybody was able to find some, there must be some out there, all forgotten (just like my precious).

Have you got one of these Took?

<joke>

Yeah its right next to my Casascius 1000 BTC gold coin and 500 BTC bar, my Unicorn is guarding them so they should be safe  ;D

</joke>

I need a unicorn ? ???

Ha ha with the coins you keep putting up for sale mate nothing would surprise me :D.

bump  :)

a good picture of a void coin from the serie bloomberg / getty made 2013:
http://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/casascius?sort=mostpopular&excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&phrase=casascius (http://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/casascius?sort=mostpopular&excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&phrase=casascius)

Great find ! I have seen a few of these images used in articles, but many are new to me.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/166642315-mike-caldwell-of-casascius-makes-bitcoins-at-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QTTXnInMIxZSYDWqJfq8dfb79eN%2bj%2bCbHT4tquOcZ%2bs%2bvUv%2b59o3jcjQsT1MneCW9A%3d%3d

MUST.... GET..... MORE.... COINS.....

Did we find out how many void coins were produced?

And you've probably got 999,999 of them :D

The only coin that can't be tracked using the various Casascius coin tracking sites! A complete enigma...anyone think we'll see one of these in a museum somewhere in 20 years or so?

I would love to add one of them to my collection. That's for sure. ;D

You and me both! Here's to hoping Mike does another charity auction ;D

I emailed Mike and he hasn't replied. I'm not the only one waiting on a reply for something. His focus is elsewhere these days it seems

I was wondering if some of Mikes 2FA prototypes silver coins was ever released into the wild

https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/thumb/3/3d/Casascius_2factor_silver_coin.jpg/450px-Casascius_2factor_silver_coin.jpg

Oh my. Think I'm in love

Too many variables still up in the air. My post was a little premature.  ;)

Perhaps a general question for the time being: What is everyone's opinion on what these are worth?

I would have guessed lower than minerjones, but it is hard to say as I have never seen one for sale.

I would pay 3B but I would value it around 4-6B.   It really depends how many were made or still exist.  Personally the .5B Brass is my least favorite Cas coin, so from that aesthetic standpoint, it doesn't appeal to me like a 1B Silver or similar Cas coin would.

I bet most of them, especially if given to a reporter who didn't have much interest in Bitcoin.

Obviously Mike will have to confirm as we will never know for sure without his input but I have been knocking down doors left and right for over two weeks and found less than a handful.

My opinion is that there were less than 15-20 (most likely closer to 10 but I am leaving a margin of error) ever made and that the ones actually kept and taken care of are well within the lower single digits.

I am fairly certain I can get two Void Coins for any individuals interested. I have spent approximately 60-70 hours researching, cold calling, and emailing anyone that might possibly have any relation to these rare coins and have only been able to find three total. One I am keeping for myself. I am fairly confident that these are the only two that will be available in the foreseeable future judging by how difficult they have been to track down and I can't imagine another avenue anyone could try that I have not to find these.

The price for one is 10BTC, reservations are on a first come first serve basis. Please PM me if you are interested or have any questions. Thanks  :)

I admire your enthusiasm for Casascius.
True collector right there!

Haha thanks Took, this has definitely turned out to be a more involved project than I expected it to be!  ;D

I might have a seller willing to let one of these go (ungraded) for 7.5BTC. Figured I'd post and see if there's any interest. The seller will be including some pretty cool provenance with it as well. Message me for more info and hopefully pictures in a day or so.  :)