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Hi my other Account BFL_Theo was banned for trolling and which i didnt either mean to or had the intention of doing, is there someone i can talk to that could help me with my problem? i tried looking for contact people on the site and which i couldn't find.

If i was trolling i think i wouldn't care about my account, i could just keep making new ones but honestly i wasn't and would like someone to help me please.

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME ALREADY!! BFL_Theo Got Unrightfully Banned! Your all to easy to ban someone rather then help, Could you guys HELP me ALREADY!

The name BFL_Theo would suggest you were trying to impersonate a BFL staff member, Are you employed by BFL?

Maybe you are just bad at trolling?  Maybe take ban avoidance 101 at your local community college?

i really don't find this funny..

i have no idea what i did?

No im not a bfl staff memmber but am a big fan of there products. but i am on BFL Forums all around and they know about my account name and never told me anything about it weather im impresanating them, they even let me join the raffle game with my bitcoin forum username

Why would you want a BFL_xxx name anyway?



Probably for that reason. 


A good portion of this forum shits on BFL in their free time... Don't need anymore.

Pick a new name...

You have no reason to have BFL in front of your account.

You were probably banned for that reason.. Enough BFL talk around here.. same shit over and over again.

Theymos should have already PM-ed you in regards to your ban situation. You were banned for imposing as a staff of BFL in a previous post that were removed, and other counts of trolling.

No one Pm'd me at all and no one gave me a reason for it, i have no idea what the hell is going on, i got just back from school and my account was banned for posting 15posts 2polls and some comments on topics that did pertain about the thread, and i dont see anything on the rules about impersonating staff members? in which i am saying i dont work for the company and that i love there products

The rules are piss off the mods and act like an idiot you get banned

Pretty easy.. We don't need a repeat of what we already have.

This must be a joke, what about pissing Mod's off? i DIDN'T DO ANYTHING HELLO Dose anyone understand that? i didn't do anything intentional, right now if i want i could go create 50 accounts and spam but im not and if i was trolling i could also do it with 50 accounts but i wont and didn't that why i want my account back, its unfair on how my account was banned for nothing, i didn't harasse anyone didn't bother anyone, and didn't even mess with any MOd's

Any account that i create will disqualifi me from the BFL raffle game and wont allow me join, and that account was allowed by the staff ( BFL_Josh ) so what is it to anyone if the Actual company doesn't mind me having the name?

its about time the mods start banning these clowns

Why is having that name such a big deal to you?


You made another account. Are you trying to get banned again?



They gave you a reason. Deal with it.

Then can i Change my Account name to something Else? and get the Banned removed?

I understand the Whole order number situation now, makes sense now but to be fare i would of loved a Pm saying Chose another name or get banned type of message rather *Login* 2 sec later BANNED

Yes hello and please cool off awhile while waiting for theymos to get to you. Wailing and doing a public show won't help to exacerbate you, and might even worsen the situation.  I believe I've stated that to you in a PM earlier.


I've asked theymos on that earlier and the charges were specifically on trolling, so a name change won't be enough.

Trolling? with all due respect go look at the account posts under BFL_Theo and see what i've posted please for the love of god, i think the only thing i've posted that was weird or stupid was the "introducing yourself" thread and i posted "no im batman" to someone else post as a joke rather then being a AssH, i was trying to make relations with other people on the forums

I would like to make this Clear to Everyone.



I apologize to everyone that had to read my BS and am sorry to have either bothered anyone in any possible way, i Just didn't know who to get help with my problems and im sorry if the BFL part was misleading in any way, i don't mean any harm to anyone and i understand..


Hopefully now i wait for the guy who banned me to message me soon

I saw your posts before they were deleted. You were impersonating BFL staff in one of the ASIC threads in the newbie section throwing out overblown profitabilty numbers about BFL products in a clear cut attempt to defraud forum members.

I was under the impression this is a free democratic forums. You cant go to jail for trolling in real life.

I don't think you understand how internet forums work. They are not democracies, they are private clubs operating under their house rules. And yes, impersonating a company employee in an attempt to defraud potential customers might not get you sent to jail, but get you fined none the less.

Are you kidding me? dude i posted what BFL has on there forum, i thought i was doing a favor on showing what they Make in a month, if you dont believe me look at the forum for yourself, the person asked how much would they profit a month with a Single i believe or little Single im not sure so i posted what they had on there forum, i was just posting what i saw as BFL Advertised


The Link: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showwiki.php?title=FAQ:Get+Rich+Quick+Not+so+fast&highlight=rich

And what i saw there

Jalapeno: $27/month
"Little" Single: $180/month
Single: $360/month
Minirig: $9000/month


I did not tell anyone to buy any of the products , the person asked how much they would make and i helped, i don't mean to fraud anyone Jesus whats wrong with you, its like someone not knowing how to install window 7 and i show him a link? what i cant do that? he asked a question and i reply with a answer its not like i made the numbers up to make them look good.

A free democratic forum doesn't stop all semblance of laws being enforced here. Trolling in Internet forums is the equivalent of the defacement of public property. A fully libertarian forum would end up in a pile of spam.

What gave you that crazy idea?  A forum (any forum) is private property.  Private property owners have a right to manage their property as they see fit.   Of course nobody is forced to use the forum and if the forum owners act tyaranical people will simply leave but the idea that a forum is free and democratic is kinda silly.  I mean when is the last time the forum voted.... on anything.  When were elections for mod and admin held?  You would think that would be a clue it isn't a democracy.

Is there a problem?

BFL is the bestest company in the world  ;D  :-*  ;D

LAB Rat!! Help Lmfaoo i got banned for having BFL_Theo....Correction i was trolling, i keep thinking i was banned for the BFL part but it happens to be trolling i believe

I know they banned BFL_Mitt and BFL_Obama from BFL forums. Possibly it had to do something with the elections. Or shit Inaba said. Or shit my dad says.

You absolutely should not do that. BFL doesn't own the "BFL_" username prefix. I will not ban people for simply using that prefix in their usernames.

Perhaps we need to assign some kind of "confirmed" status to actual company representatives so that users can easily distinguish between service provider staff and others who may use the prefix because they're fanbois or trolls.

But what if they are all of the above (staff, fanboy, troll) - like BFL_Josh?

I think the matter of this Thread was based on my account getting banned,

I thought it had to do with the BFL part of the name but it wasnt.

So having BFL is not a problem.

Problem is trolling supposedly.

Confirmed Turd Sandwich

good tag.

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You were lying about being a BFL representative, which is trolling.


It's okay Guy's im still banned for Having the Prefix



   
Re: I got banned for Trolling? (merged with dupe thread)
December 04, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
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Quote from: Blazr on December 04, 2012, 06:19:13 PM
If I saw somebody with the forum name BF_Theo, I would assume they were a BFL staff member. If I had a problem with my order, I would probably send them my order number etc if they offered to help.

You absolutely should not do that. BFL doesn't own the "BFL_" username prefix. I will not ban people for simply using that prefix in their usernames.

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theymos

Give it up, you lose... Troll = FAIL

Who the Hell is Trolling? Are you guys Delusional? and not see that he made a mistake?

Everybody makes mistakes but to agree to the mistake and still call me a troll means you must be more of a idiot then most normal people " Give it up" ? hbu Stop posting and go Play Runescape.

Trolling is freedom of speech, its not defacing anything, the idea of bitcoins is democratic, and free. Though I see these forums as more 'high class' than your usual, thus I don't agree with it, but I don't see how trolling should be a bannable offense, no one has to read a 'trolls' post, that's what the ignore button is for.

If trolling is 'defacing' the forums as you say, then spamming, swearing, posting ignorant statements, and false facts should be bannable also.

P.S. if you feel trolling should be bannable, then you should rethink how the scammer tag works, why should one be banned for trolling someone, but someone who steals $20,000 usd just gets a tag.

"Freedom of speech" laws apply to the relation between government and citizen, there is no provision for "freedom of speech" between citizens or even a non-government organization and citizens.

I 100% Agree!

Now see the Posts i made and tell me what i did wrong, somethings just don't make Sense i swear

btw i like how you made your point.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71552

I don't know the circumstances behind your ban, I was just stating the trolling part I feel is a wrongful ban. Your name was misleading it had BFL, but that could have been changed as fast as it took to click the ban button, or given you a scammer tag, then you could still post.

And if trolling is bannable, please ban Dank.

Banning people isn't violating free speech, don't be dense. I kicked some hunters off my property a couple weeks ago and told them not to return, is that violating their free speech?

theymos Explained why i Got banned Right now. Apparently the "BFL." ment that i Signed it as a Representative of BFL which i had no idea was bad or even meant that in all respect, i understand where he's coming from, but like i said to him if i knew i would get in trouble i would of never did it

Jalapeno: $00/month
"Little" Single: $000/month
Single: $000/month
Minirig: $0000/month


BFL.     <~~~~~~~~ Just for This part




P.s i removed the amounts due to not false advertising.

theymos

Allowed me to Keep The Account and Put in my Signature that i am Not a Representative of BFL.

thanks For understand theymos

Don't be ignorant, trespassing isn't in violation of speech.
I'm stating trolling doesn't hurt anyone.
Scammers do, but they don't get banned.

If you were to ban one for trolling, ban them all, and please start with dank.

Dude your my Hero You got me Unbanned!

jk haha but yeah im Back Thank god, my heads killing me from Posting so many comments and Messaging back and forth!


Not a BFL STAFF

Property doesn't only apply to physical property.    You have no freedom of speech as it relates to other citizens and their private property.   No forum can violate your freedom of speech because ...

Who can't abridge the freedom of speech?  That's right Congress can't.  Last time I checked the mods on this forum aren't Congress, aren't duly elected or appointed officials of any state.  They aren't even the agents of the state.  

Rights start with ownership.  The forum is OWNED by its owners.  Those owners use admins and mods to (as they see fit) to maximize the value of their property.  Property they own and have every right to control.  There is no difference between kicking a hunter off your land and kicking a person off a forum.  Both involve lawfully controlling one's property.

You don't need a freedom of Speech from other citizens you know why?
1) Other citizens don't have a monopoly on violence.  Other citizens can't under the law use force to silence your speech.  
2) Sure maybe you can't speak on this forum without rules (much like you can't hunt on anyone's private property without permission) but until bitcointalk.org becomes the sole mechanism of speech for the human race you have other options.  

TL/DR:
I hate "rights" hypocrits.  I bet even now you fail to see that your demands of freedom of speech are a violation of the rights of others ... the rights of property owners to be free in the ownership of what is theirs.

Well you sir just trolled me, a bannable offense, apparently. Anyway I'm not here to say what's right and wrong I was stating my opinion and you trolled me so you should be banned also. Why should one be banned for trolling but others such as dank are still here along with scammers?

Tldr you're a hypocrite and should be banned for trolling.

Lucky for me this isn't your property or I would be banned. Starting to understand how that whole property right's concept works now?  In this case your definition of trolling is irrelevant.

Comeon Guys no need to get Upset over nothing haha i made this thread to get me unbanned but now it seem to be a battle royal of Rights!



Not a BFL STAFF

That's no troll. DeathAndTaxes stated objective fact.

Nobody's upset, just correcting farlack's misunderstanding of what the right to free speech actually means.

Farlack, as D&T stated, it isn't about trespassing, it's about personal and property rights. Your right to free speech doesn't give you the right to intrude on the rights of others. If this were your forum you absolutely would have the right to say D&T is a troll and ban him. Or just ban him because you think he's ugly and smells bad. That would be your choice to make. A poor one, but yours nevertheless.

Dank's time will probably come. He mostly sticks to his own threads at least.

Right, seems someones epeen is to big, just because you have a higher post count, doesn't mean everyone elses 'opinion' is irrelevant. All I stated was I don't feel trolling should be bannable.

This website and its domain is the United States government property, if you don't think they can, and will seize this website at will, you're mistaken. Hows that whole property right's concept work for you? Bitcoin.org is registered with the ICANN, which is government property, which also owns everything on American soil.

Half the things you see here is about sticking it to the government, we have a better currency, hushing users up is against everything we're here for.

(And yeah, I realize the domain is registered in Canada, and probably hosting too, but SMF forums are in Nevada, in American government territory)


Don't bother replying here, I wont be back on this thread. I stated my 'opinion' and you trolled me about it, good job.

Okay I like to order 3 asic miners, and 3 jalapenos, and a mini one.

 :D

Now where's mine? Bad customer service, highly dis-recommend BFL  >:(

 ;D

If you would bother to read his post instead of jumping straight to some idiotic conclusions about post counts and epeens, you'd realize that he's saying fralack's opinion on trolling is irrelevant because he isn't the owner of the forums, therefore has no rights when it comes to deciding who is a troll and who isn't, and who should be banned for it. You have a pretty poor definition of trolling as well.

I can see why you don't want to come back to this thread though (good job on that iceburn by the way, you totally got the last word on that guy ::)), it must be hard to actually discuss things when you can't read. I don't even know where to start with the travesty that's the rest of your post.