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Title: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 12:40:28 AM
Hello,

I have a lot of bitcoin and I wish to buy a car.  No dealers accept Bitcoin.  I want a one car from dealer A or dealer B.
They would accept Credit card or bank wire, but not bitcoin.

I cannot cash out bitcoin, LBC is useless in my area and for this amount.

If someone is willing to pay the car dealership, I can pay you in BTC for the current market price. 
I won't charge you a markup like you would pay on localbitcoin or coinbase or any other exchange.

You will know the dealer, and therefore you will know me as I would be registering the car and keeping it.
There is a paper trail because of this.  Bank wire, dealer, receipts, registration.
I do not know how a deal like this can be made more secure than it is, such as it is.
Perhaps this is an impossible request.

Not many people need that much BTC anyways.
And no, I don't believe that an anonymous person on this forum with a "legend/hero" account can be trusted because they are anonymous, legend/hero accounts are sold on this forum for far LESS than this transaction amount,
I honestly believe that all in forum escrow members are vulnerable to temptation exit scams like MTGOX.
So I would NOT trust some anonymous "high reputation" user with 20k when I trust bank logs, dealership record keeping, and DMV registrations 1000 times more.  Because ONLY a paper trail can trusted and used in the event someone pulled some BS.
An escrow guy holding anonymous untraceable BTC is a terrible idea for this amount.

So I propose someone trust the paper trail and my need for an actual car.

Any takers?
My information, location, car, dealer contact info etc will be in private.

Amount can be a little more or less depending on things.
No fees added for me or you in this offer.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 12:44:18 AM
Sorry for the n00b question. But a free bump is a free bump.

Why not use an exchange?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.
An exchange requires time, verification time, and a US bank account, all things I don't have time for.
I also do not have a USA bank account.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Dorrittulx on December 16, 2015, 01:22:11 AM
Move to Canada, we get bank 2 bank instant within 30 minutes (Interac E-Transfer). No EMT's in USA?

MoneyGram?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 01:30:44 AM
Money Gram, Western Union, and Banks all do money wires.
But they they ask you 20 questions because of the amount of money and fee you to death.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: shdvb on December 16, 2015, 01:33:10 AM
I could wire you money ,if thats okay with you?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 01:45:16 AM
I could wire you money ,if thats okay with you?

Or wire the dealership right?
If I accept it, I cannot take out that much in one day.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 02:37:12 AM
So yes I guess that is exactly what I am asking, and works.  But not to me, to the dealer.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Timelord2067 on December 16, 2015, 02:42:15 AM
So are you looking to do the deal in one hit, or in smaller chunks, say minimum of one BTC (ie close to $ 450 USD)?

Thanks for reading.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 02:48:24 AM
So are you looking to do the deal in one hit, or in smaller chunks, say minimum of one BTC (ie close to $ 450 USD)?

Thanks for reading.

One transaction of 20k.

Not small amounts.


Perhaps others in the future, of equal or greater amounts.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: boliu on December 16, 2015, 02:49:34 AM
doesn't tesla motors accept bitcoins?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
This is dodgy. Extremely fishy.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 03:38:11 AM
In other words, the OP wants you to give him his car dealership $20,000 in cash, and then will send you $20,000 worth of bitcoin. He is not accepting escrow, and is insisting that you send first ::)
No, not in other words.   I have very clearly explained that I want the funds given to a dealership, by bank wire, NOT CASH, and then I will send $20k in bitcoin.   You are fucking crazy if you think I would send Bitcoin BEFORE a bank wire.  Bank wires have a paper trail and FDIC bank insurance.
Escrow?  Are you joking?  "Escrow" to you means some anonymous fucker that can steal, and will.  Look at MTGOX.
You sir have a history of being a scammer with alts.

This is dodgy. Extremely fishy.
Why?  Because bitcoins are evil?


doesn't tesla motors accept bitcoins?
No Tesla does not accept bitcoins when I checked.  I heard that rumor too, based on a story of a single lambo dealer in CA accepting Bitcoin one time.  Tesla is 50-70k  I am just looking for 20.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: eneilwex on December 16, 2015, 03:55:31 AM
not without  escrow, regardless of your paper trail. why should anyone take all the risk for you? You can use different escrows for this deal, if you are worried one would up and run.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:01:53 AM
not without  escrow, regardless of your paper trail. why should anyone take all the risk for you? You can use different escrows for this deal, if you are worried one would up and run.

What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Quickseller on December 16, 2015, 04:05:26 AM
In other words, the OP wants you to give him his car dealership $20,000 in cash, and then will send you $20,000 worth of bitcoin. He is not accepting escrow, and is insisting that you send first ::)
No, not in other words.   I have very clearly explained that I want the funds given to a dealership, by bank wire, NOT CASH, and then I will send $20k in bitcoin.   You are fucking crazy if you think I would send Bitcoin BEFORE a bank wire.  Bank wires have a paper trail and FDIC bank insurance.
Escrow?  Are you joking?  "Escrow" to you means some anonymous fucker that can steal, and will.  Look at MTGOX.
You sir have a history of being a scammer with alts.
For all intensive purposes a bank wire is the same as cash, as you are not going to be able to reverse either a cash payment to a dealership or a bank wire to a dealership.

Granted a bank wire is going to have a paper trail, however there is nothing about that paper trail that will force you to send the bitcoin once the payment is sent to the dealership. All that FDIC insurance is going to do is protect you against bank failures (up to $250,000 per depositor, per account type), and will do nothing about the potential for the dealership to go under, and will do nothing to protect against you from scamming.

If you were to have the car registered to a fake person's name, and do not send bitcoin to the bitcoin seller, then the police would be looking for a fake person who does not exist. Once the owner of a car can report a car as being stolen, so there would be no one to report the car as stolen, even though the bitcoin seller paid for it. Additionally, car thieves will sometimes sell car parts of a car they steal (eg hood, doors, seats, ect.), and you could potentially sell the car you receive and do not pay for scrap parts -- you would probably not receive $20,000 for this, however considering that you paid nothing for it, that will not matter for you.

Regarding escrow, if you are serious about getting this done, then I would suggest OgNasty. He is currently holding over $240,000 (http://blockchain.info/address/1Eog8UqRFLufC71rBLt2nYgfUDskgxAyVF) worth of bitcoin. He also recently released (https://blockchain.info/tx/7230bca8ca7c6748b60a3bf011f1b71cf1a38e47de9bfa7a5fe12428fe00d30b) 130BTC in an escrowed deal for a bunch of miners which is almost triple the amount of your proposed deal. I would personally call it ridiculous to think that you wouldn't be able to trust him with $20,000.

Bottom line is that a paper trail of a transaction is not going to protect anyone against you scamming them, the same way that the trail that the blockchain leaves is not going to protect you from a scammer.

I would say that there is a fairly good chance that you are not even able to prove that you are in control of $20,000 worth of bitcoin ;)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Scam_Buster on December 16, 2015, 04:16:57 AM
@ClownSpider nice trust rating you got there...

Sign that wallet of yours holding $20k in.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 04:18:15 AM
@ClownSpider nice trust rating you got there...

Sign that wallet of yours holding $20k in.

Yes OP, sign the message please.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:19:27 AM
I will happily sign the wallet with 43k in it.  Just looking to spend 20k


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 04:20:51 AM
I will happily sign the wallet with 43k in it.  Just looking to spend 20k

I'm actually interested to see whether this is legit or not. If it is I'm sorry I take back my words.

So please sign the address :)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: eneilwex on December 16, 2015, 04:24:45 AM
not without  escrow, regardless of your paper trail. why should anyone take all the risk for you? You can use different escrows for this deal, if you are worried one would up and run.

What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.

choose 10 different escrows here and send them 2k each. Il wire you the cash.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:30:13 AM
Wallet: 
1G1N1jor2LMfTA4gN3qWL96dycUWvipLqR
Message:
This wallet is owned by ClownSpider.Looking to make a 20k deal cash or wire for 20k in BTC.
Signature:
IFY9Ri6yyCYzBKIThW+QxqbP8cPOe+ekFADoggYCYcDcIpcONuLqtC1yRTqcecAiDxsBNJC/i9u8VL1c5lx5+N0=


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:31:22 AM
I will happily sign the wallet with 43k in it.  Just looking to spend 20k

still waiting

Can I get 10 fucking minutes to sign a message without repeated cries for a signature?  Jesus man.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 04:31:44 AM
Wallet:  
1G1N1jor2LMfTA4gN3qWL96dycUWvipLqR
Message:
This wallet is owned by ClownSpider.Looking to make a 20k deal cash or wire for 20k in BTC.
Signature:
IFY9Ri6yyCYzBKIThW+QxqbP8cPOe+ekFADoggYCYcDcIpcONuLqtC1yRTqcecAiDxsBNJC/i9u8VL1c5lx5+N0=

Final Balance   0 BTC


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:33:50 AM
I just transferred it OUT of that account, look at the time.
It is now in my OTHER account  1QEDYZTy9jFkkLbUbgFvx58suvpnJRBzY8
For this reason http://www.coindesk.com/good-samaritan-blockchain-hacker-returned-255-btc-speaks/
I do not leave Bitcoin in signature signed accounts, because it can be stolen.

I will transfer it into another, back and forth.

Look at the time, the OUT just happened, not even confirmed yet.

If you wish, note the time.
I will put it into 1K5oRoA8xaxyxk1r6BicYpoGCW1grDXiHP
sign for 1K5oRoA8xaxyxk1r6BicYpoGCW1grDXiHP
Then transfer it OUT and back to a safe account that is not compromised by a signature.  (as per exploit noted above)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: lihuajkl on December 16, 2015, 04:37:23 AM
I have $1000 paypal ready to trade. Can you do it with me?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 04:39:25 AM
not without  escrow, regardless of your paper trail. why should anyone take all the risk for you? You can use different escrows for this deal, if you are worried one would up and run.

What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.

choose 10 different escrows here and send them 2k each. Il wire you the cash.

I may take you up on this offer, that is a better idea.  Not putting all the eggs in 1 basket.  I bit of effort to manage 10 different people and their different online/offline schedules, but I viable solution from out of the box thinking.

If you have 20k, I will start looking for 10 escrow people on here.



I have $1000 paypal ready to trade. Can you do it with me?
Never in a million years would I trust paypal and their charge backs.  Sorry.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: eneilwex on December 16, 2015, 04:50:43 AM
not without  escrow, regardless of your paper trail. why should anyone take all the risk for you? You can use different escrows for this deal, if you are worried one would up and run.

What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.

choose 10 different escrows here and send them 2k each. Il wire you the cash.

I may take you up on this offer, that is a better idea.  Not putting all the eggs in 1 basket.  I bit of effort to manage 10 different people and their different online/offline schedules, but I viable solution from out of the box thinking.

If you have 20k, I will start looking for 10 escrow people on here.



I have $1000 paypal ready to trade. Can you do it with me?
Never in a million years would I trust paypal and their charge backs.  Sorry.

Pm me, when ready. I am here for another hour or thereabout.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 05:13:04 AM
give me until tomorrow to contact the dealer and make arrangements, mean while I will see if we have 10 escrow guys that look good.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 05:23:08 AM
give me until tomorrow to contact the dealer and make arrangements, mean while I will see if we have 10 escrow guys that look good.

I suggest for the 10 escrows you're looking for:

1. Devthedev
2. Monbux
3. Blazed
4. Tomatocage
5. Master-p
6. Mitchell
7. Ognasty
8. SebastianJu
9. Bitpop
and 10. Dabs

I would trust any of them for the total amount though. Good luck.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: b!z on December 16, 2015, 06:23:07 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.

A bit impatient, are we?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nickaizoku on December 16, 2015, 06:43:06 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.

A bit impatient, are we?
Its very impatient,
If i wanna buy car i can ask the dealer hold it for me or reserved it for me for at least few days if really have intention want to buy. Im sure dealer will hold it for u.
while in the mean time you can slowly exchange ur btc in safe way actually.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 06:54:10 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.

A bit impatient, are we?
Its very impatient,
If i wanna buy car i can ask the dealer hold it for me or reserved it for me for at least few days if really have intention want to buy. Im sure dealer will hold it for u.
while in the mean time you can slowly exchange ur btc in safe way actually.

I would like a car tomorrow.

A bit impatient, are we?


If your get your panties in a bunch because I would like to buy something, and get it the same day that I pay, then you have a miserable personality.

Very impatient?  Excuse the fuck out of me for wanting something!
Stop being a little bitch.  If you can read, exchanges are not compatible with my schedule or situation. 
So put your patients in your ear.  =)
Slow?  ha ha ha ha.  Slow.  HA HA, he said slow!
Spoken like a common peasant.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 06:54:46 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.

A bit impatient, are we?

Well, at least he signed a message.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 07:14:42 AM
Thank you MyBTT.

Quicksilver,,, take your scamming butt off my thread.  Learn to read.  I have already begun working with someone wiser and more literate than yourself, who has suggested 10 escrows.  A Brilliant idea!
So quit your bitching.

Broke people need not join this conversation.  I am working in a higher level, thanks.  That 10 escrow idea was simply genius and I should have thought of that.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 16, 2015, 07:20:02 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.

I did.
And the video on bitcoin.org is perfect as a sales pitch for their business to accept BTC.
No dealers will play with BTC.
I tried very hard.
They act like they don't need my business unless I have cash or finance it on a loan.
One accepted credit card, but wanted 2-3 days for the payment to clear before letting me have the car!  wow.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 16, 2015, 07:30:18 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.

I did.
And the video on bitcoin.org is perfect as a sales pitch for their business to accept BTC.
No dealers will play with BTC.
I tried very hard.
They act like they don't need my business unless I have cash or finance it on a loan.
One accepted credit card, but wanted 2-3 days for the payment to clear before letting me have the car!  wow.
Sucks that they treat you like this but if you can pay on creedit card just do it and wait the three days. Why cant you wait 3 days for the car?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 07:42:58 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.

I did.
And the video on bitcoin.org is perfect as a sales pitch for their business to accept BTC.
No dealers will play with BTC.
I tried very hard.
They act like they don't need my business unless I have cash or finance it on a loan.
One accepted credit card, but wanted 2-3 days for the payment to clear before letting me have the car!  wow.
Sucks that they treat you like this but if you can pay on creedit card just do it and wait the three days. Why cant you wait 3 days for the car?

I will as a last resort, but I will do better if possible.
By CC I can use e-coin to get virtual credit cards, and make multiple transactions for the total.  Just as much work, but takes 3 days.
When you shop in a store they don't tell you, "thank you please come back in 3 days".  So that threw me off.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 16, 2015, 07:46:56 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.

I did.
And the video on bitcoin.org is perfect as a sales pitch for their business to accept BTC.
No dealers will play with BTC.
I tried very hard.
They act like they don't need my business unless I have cash or finance it on a loan.
One accepted credit card, but wanted 2-3 days for the payment to clear before letting me have the car!  wow.
Sucks that they treat you like this but if you can pay on creedit card just do it and wait the three days. Why cant you wait 3 days for the car?

I will as a last resort, but I will do better if possible.
By CC I can use e-coin to get virtual credit cards, and make multiple transactions for the total.  Just as much work, but takes 3 days.
When you shop in a store they don't tell you, "thank you please come back in 3 days".  So that threw me off.

I've bought plenty of cars and I never walked in and bougt it and drove away. I've personally always had to wait at least a day or two for the prep and paperwork.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 07:58:37 AM
The vehicle I want is fully functional and doesn't need any prep.  Paperwork literally takes 10 minutes and 20 minutes max if a fax machine is involved.  Most people drive away within 1 hour or 2.  Waiting a day after making a deal is unacceptable and ridiculous everywhere I have seen.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 07:23:24 PM
Hey, as PM'd.

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here, I posted the list because I thought you might needed some tips on which escrows to use. I don't think that I mentioned to you that I was interested in the deal however I thought it was my fault mainly for the misunderstanding.

I would deal with you, however I don't have that much spare cash sitting in my bank account right now.

Sorry again and good luck.

give me until tomorrow to contact the dealer and make arrangements, mean while I will see if we have 10 escrow guys that look good.

I suggest for the 10 escrows you're looking for:

1. Devthedev
2. Monbux
3. Blazed
4. Tomatocage
5. Master-p
6. Mitchell
7. Ognasty
8. SebastianJu
9. Bitpop
and 10. Dabs

I would trust any of them for the total amount though. Good luck.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 07:28:28 PM
Three of 10 escrow members responded.
1 of 3 did not want to join because of other escrows being involved.

Turns out I misunderstood, and MyBTT was offering the idea and not offering to buy the BTC.

So this just isn't workable.
I'll just cold store the BTC and forget about it for 5+ years, maybe then BTC will be something people actually accept in stores.

Currently nobody knows what the hell bitcoin is, and nobody accepts it.  
Save for a few random small shops that sell small things.

Bitpremier is a scam site, and I don't need 43k worth of domain names.
So that is just disappointing.
I honestly am not a big fan of bitcoin anymore.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: MyBTT on December 16, 2015, 07:31:07 PM
Three of 10 escrow members responded.
1 of 3 did not want to join because of other escrows being involved.

Turns out I misunderstood, and MyBTT was offering the idea and not offering to buy the BTC.

So this just isn't workable.
I'll just cold store the BTC and forget about it for 5+ years, maybe then BTC will be something people actually accept in stores.

Currently nobody knows what the hell bitcoin is, and nobody accepts it.  
Save for a few random small shops that sell small things.

Bitpremier is a scam site, and I don't need 43k worth of domain names.
So that is just disappointing.
I honestly am not a big fan of bitcoin anymore.

I'm sorry again for the misunderstanding. My fault.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Blazed on December 16, 2015, 07:51:10 PM
You just need to sell the coins on an exchange and be done with it. You just have somewhat unrealistic expectations on cashing out some coins is all. What kind of car is it anyways...I am curious.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 16, 2015, 08:08:20 PM
You just need to sell the coins on an exchange and be done with it. You just have somewhat unrealistic expectations on cashing out some coins is all. What kind of car is it anyways...I am curious.

I would like a car tomorrow.
An exchange requires time, verification time, and a US bank account, all things I don't have time for.
I also do not have a USA bank account.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Blazed on December 16, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
You just need to sell the coins on an exchange and be done with it. You just have somewhat unrealistic expectations on cashing out some coins is all. What kind of car is it anyways...I am curious.

I would like a car tomorrow.
An exchange requires time, verification time, and a US bank account, all things I don't have time for.
I also do not have a USA bank account.

Hence the unrealistic expectations part of what I said. Pretty hard to go and buy a car without a bank account...


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: RodeoX on December 16, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
You could just buy the car with bitcoin and avoid all the hassle?

Buy any kind of car:
http://cars.overstock.com/?referrer_id=ZOSCOHP0001&TID=HEAD:Cars

Buy any car and have it delivered:
https://www.beepi.com/

Have a custom electric car made to order:
https://www.teslamotors.com/

There are actually many other car dealerships that take bitcoin. Your wasting your time and bitcoin switching back and forth between currencies. Bitcoin IS MONEY!


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 09:34:10 PM
You could just buy the car with bitcoin and avoid all the hassle?

Buy any kind of car:
http://cars.overstock.com/?referrer_id=ZOSCOHP0001&TID=HEAD:Cars

Buy any car and have it delivered:
https://www.beepi.com/

Have a custom electric car made to order:
https://www.teslamotors.com/

There are actually many other car dealerships that take bitcoin. Your wasting your time and bitcoin switching back and forth between currencies. Bitcoin IS MONEY!

1)  Overstock.com does NOT accept bitcoin.
Overstock.com does NOT sell cars.

2) Beepi might work.  It took google just to find the word "bitcoin", and appears that bitcoin is not a component of their website or service.  It is merely mentioned in 1 review.

3)  Teslamotors does not accept bitcoin.  The website accepts a single visa, or checking account, and 1 other thing but no bitcoin.

I will look at Beepi


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 16, 2015, 09:37:18 PM
Hence the unrealistic expectations part of what I said. Pretty hard to go and buy a car without a bank account...

That is quite wrong.  A bank account could only be used via debit card or checking to buy anything.

Most people finance a car, use cash, or credit card, money orders,, and those do not require a bank account.

Checks are rarely accepted anywhere in 2015, and definitely NOT for a car incase they bounce.

Most car purchases would never involve a bank account.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Dabs on December 16, 2015, 11:54:23 PM
Uh:
http://www.overstock.com/bitcoin

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You can now buy thousands of Overstock.com products with Bitcoins! We've partnered with Coinbase to become the first major retailer to accept the digital currency. So shop away!

Overstock should accept bitcoins if the CEO says they do.


What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.

All 10 of us mentioned in this thread can be trusted, as we've all held more than that amount, each. I believe some of the others have done 500~2000 bitcoins in the past too.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Dogedigital on December 17, 2015, 12:15:27 AM
Have you tried talking to the dealership that you're looking to purchase the vehicle?

There's a small chance if you explain your situation and how easy it is to sell bitcoin off and the beneficial public exposure they could receive by accepting them might result in a win/win for all parties involved.  

When I bought my latest car, the salesperson was young and hungry enough to do just about anything for me to commit to the purchase.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 01:24:47 AM
You could just buy the car with bitcoin and avoid all the hassle?

Buy any kind of car:
http://cars.overstock.com/?referrer_id=ZOSCOHP0001&TID=HEAD:Cars

Buy any car and have it delivered:
https://www.beepi.com/

Have a custom electric car made to order:
https://www.teslamotors.com/

There are actually many other car dealerships that take bitcoin. Your wasting your time and bitcoin switching back and forth between currencies. Bitcoin IS MONEY!

Beepi.com is the answer!!!!!

Overstock does not have bitcoin as an option at checkout unfortunately.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 01:26:20 AM
Have you tried talking to the dealership that you're looking to purchase the vehicle?

There's a small chance if you explain your situation and how easy it is to sell bitcoin off and the beneficial public exposure they could receive by accepting them might result in a win/win for all parties involved.  

When I bought my latest car, the salesperson was young and hungry enough to do just about anything for me to commit to the purchase.


Most dealers try very very hard, but give up when they think you don't have money.
Bitcoin is unknown and therefore worthless to them.
They hit me with "why don't you turn it into cash and bring cash?"
Any answer other than "yes" is a reason for them to not accept bitcoin for the same reason I cannot cash it out.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 01:32:26 AM
Uh:
http://www.overstock.com/bitcoin

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You can now buy thousands of Overstock.com products with Bitcoins! We've partnered with Coinbase to become the first major retailer to accept the digital currency. So shop away!

Overstock should accept bitcoins if the CEO says they do.


What escrow can be trusted with 20k of untraceable anonymous unrefundable bitcoin?  It is the perfect currency for people to exit with.
A banks paper trail is more secure than any escrow that can be named.

All 10 of us mentioned in this thread can be trusted, as we've all held more than that amount, each. I believe some of the others have done 500~2000 bitcoins in the past too.

Overstock does not have bitcoin as an option at checkout.   
Paypal's own website talks about accepting bitcoin, and they do not.
I have talked to paypal on the phone, with 4 different customer support people.
They all say they do NOT accept bitcoin in any way at all.  Even though their website says otherwise.

So overstock is just another talker.

And no matter what anyone says, I will never trust anyone with 500-2000 bitcoins.
Maybe when bitcoin was .50 cents each.  But when bitcoin is $450.00 each, no way in hell can you trust an anonymous 3rd party with bitcoin.  Look at MT gox.  I don't know you guys and there is zero recourse or accountability here.  So no thanks to that.

Hence the 10 escrow idea.

Bit beepi.com was the answer.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Dabs on December 17, 2015, 01:59:10 AM
I can't really speak for the other 9, but I will take a stab at guessing that they don't really mind that much how much is the value of bitcoin relative to fiat. For me, bitcoin is it's own value, whether that's 1 BTC or 10,000 BTC the transaction and technology to do the transaction is the same. All of us use cold wallets, escrows are usually if not always on separate addresses.

As for beepi,

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You can expect to see your Beepi car sitting in your driveway nine to eleven days after you’ve reserved or purchased a Beepi Car.

It says that in their FAQ.


But like you said, if you don't trust someone, don't use them. I'm just another guy who does 50k USD in transactions every month albeit not in bitcoin though.

Here's an old one:
http://blockchain.info/address/1Dabso5tsVpM9oZKxu8h4WYUUxjkwxC25Q


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 02:06:46 AM
I have been getting PMs from people offering paypal, skrill, and another scam site that was full of bad English, broken links, unfinished social media links, offering bank wire services for BTC.  lol

So many scammers, and newbs with brand new accounts posting at me.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: master-P on December 17, 2015, 06:58:59 AM

And no matter what anyone says, I will never trust anyone with 500-2000 bitcoins.
Maybe when bitcoin was .50 cents each.  But when bitcoin is $450.00 each, no way in hell can you trust an anonymous 3rd party with bitcoin.  Look at MT gox.  I don't know you guys and there is zero recourse or accountability here.  So no thanks to that.

Hence the 10 escrow idea.

Bit beepi.com was the answer.

I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 17, 2015, 08:45:17 AM

And no matter what anyone says, I will never trust anyone with 500-2000 bitcoins.
Maybe when bitcoin was .50 cents each.  But when bitcoin is $450.00 each, no way in hell can you trust an anonymous 3rd party with bitcoin.  Look at MT gox.  I don't know you guys and there is zero recourse or accountability here.  So no thanks to that.

Hence the 10 escrow idea.

Bit beepi.com was the answer.

I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?

Bitpay is the one true answer here. The op obviously failed at convincing the dealership to even open an account. Its sad.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: RodeoX on December 17, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
You could just buy the car with bitcoin and avoid all the hassle?

Buy any kind of car:
http://cars.overstock.com/?referrer_id=ZOSCOHP0001&TID=HEAD:Cars

Buy any car and have it delivered:
https://www.beepi.com/

Have a custom electric car made to order:
https://www.teslamotors.com/

There are actually many other car dealerships that take bitcoin. Your wasting your time and bitcoin switching back and forth between currencies. Bitcoin IS MONEY!

1)  Overstock.com does NOT accept bitcoin.
Overstock.com does NOT sell cars.

2) Beepi might work.  It took google just to find the word "bitcoin", and appears that bitcoin is not a component of their website or service.  It is merely mentioned in 1 review.

3)  Teslamotors does not accept bitcoin.  The website accepts a single visa, or checking account, and 1 other thing but no bitcoin.

I will look at Beepi
1). Hmm. Since when has overstock stopped taking btc? I shop there all the time. And if you look at the link I sent, you will see that they do sell used and new cars of every kind.
2). have not shopped with them.
3). Not sure where Tesla is at the moment. But they have announced that they will build you a car for bitcoin if you ask them. 


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Bitpay is the one true answer here. The op obviously failed at convincing the dealership to even open an account. Its sad.
Failed?  You try convincing a dealer, or any retail store to accept bitcoin then!  It is sad that you do not realize how small and closed off the world of bitcoin really is.   It is also sad that you talk without reading.  Bitpay is not an option.  Don't make me repeat myself, because I won't.  Read next time.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?
Yeah these escrow guys claim they have almost done escrow for 75,000 bitcoin transactions!!!
HA HA HA HA what a load of bullshit.   People would meet each other in fucking person for a deal that large.
This is why I don't trust these exit scamming escrow thieves.  They are anonymous, make transactions with themselves to build a fake history of "look I managed a 60k deal last month!".  So fake.

But like you said, if you don't trust someone, don't use them. I'm just another guy who does 50k USD in transactions every month albeit not in bitcoin though.
Here's an old one:
http://blockchain.info/address/1Dabso5tsVpM9oZKxu8h4WYUUxjkwxC25Q
50k every month?  But your example is 20 months old, and also it is in bitcoin which you said it wouldn't be.

I get people asking for proof, it's annoying but I prove it.
I don't say 'every month' and flash a 20 month old transaction.

It's cool, you don't need to prove anything to me, I won't verify it because I already trust nobody basically.

I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?

What is a multi-sig escrow?  10 different escrow people?  Tried, and most got mad that they were not asked individually as just one.  More reason I don't trust them.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 06:24:56 PM
1). Hmm. Since when has overstock stopped taking btc? I shop there all the time. And if you look at the link I sent, you will see that they do sell used and new cars of every kind.
2). have not shopped with them.
3). Not sure where Tesla is at the moment. But they have announced that they will build you a car for bitcoin if you ask them. 

When did overstock ever start accepting bitcoin?
I see overstock.com/bitcoin claims all kinds of stuff.
Yet bitcoin is not an option at checkout.  Not even when I read everything and follow instructions.
You shop on overstock, but do you use bitcoin??

I see overstock does not sell cars, they sell advertising links that link to car dealerships, who of course do not accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: RodeoX on December 17, 2015, 06:41:41 PM
1). Hmm. Since when has overstock stopped taking btc? I shop there all the time. And if you look at the link I sent, you will see that they do sell used and new cars of every kind.
2). have not shopped with them.
3). Not sure where Tesla is at the moment. But they have announced that they will build you a car for bitcoin if you ask them.  

When did overstock ever start accepting bitcoin?
I see overstock.com/bitcoin claims all kinds of stuff.
Yet bitcoin is not an option at checkout.  Not even when I read everything and follow instructions.
You shop on overstock, but do you use bitcoin??

I see overstock does not sell cars, they sell advertising links that link to car dealerships, who of course do not accept bitcoin.
Oh yeah, I've spent thousands there. I just checked and found that if I log in and proceed to checkout there are payment options, including bitcoin. I see it on the same page that prompts me for a shipping address.
I have not bought a car from them but I thought it worked like this:
Dealers advertise on overstock and If someone buys then overstock basically buys it cheaper from the dealer and resells it to you at the advertised price. The dealer takes a bit of a hit, but does nothing to get the sale. So your right, its not their car they are selling. More like a scheme that makes both parties a profit.

EDIT: here is a pic.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2604z9v.png


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 17, 2015, 07:19:50 PM
Perhaps I need an account on overstock to access the bitcoin payment option.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: monbux on December 18, 2015, 03:04:51 AM
Why dont you ask the car vendor to get a bitpay account. He can probably get it up and running quickly and then there is no need for this middle man on the forum.

I did.
And the video on bitcoin.org is perfect as a sales pitch for their business to accept BTC.
No dealers will play with BTC.
I tried very hard.
They act like they don't need my business unless I have cash or finance it on a loan.
One accepted credit card, but wanted 2-3 days for the payment to clear before letting me have the car!  wow.
Sucks that they treat you like this but if you can pay on creedit card just do it and wait the three days. Why cant you wait 3 days for the car?

I will as a last resort, but I will do better if possible.
By CC I can use e-coin to get virtual credit cards, and make multiple transactions for the total.  Just as much work, but takes 3 days.
When you shop in a store they don't tell you, "thank you please come back in 3 days".  So that threw me off.
I guarantee you that waiting for a bank transfer/cc payment to go through will be much faster than looking for your current deal.

Good luck!


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 18, 2015, 07:11:20 AM
Bitpay is the one true answer here. The op obviously failed at convincing the dealership to even open an account. Its sad.
Failed?  You try convincing a dealer, or any retail store to accept bitcoin then!  It is sad that you do not realize how small and closed off the world of bitcoin really is.   It is also sad that you talk without reading.  Bitpay is not an option.  Don't make me repeat myself, because I won't.  Read next time.

Listen here mate. Without going into too much information in public I'll have you know I have convinced many businesses who sell goods to sell them to me in bitcoin. I explained how easy it was. Set them up with an account on a major exchange and always got the deal done. Once for a sports car valued at $58.000 The problem here is not bitcoin, nor is it the "closed off bitcoin world" as you call it its your ability to pitch bitcoin to the dealership. Bitcoin is money. If someone walked in there with a check would they turn it away? I don't think so. You my friend failed. Not Bitcoin.

Now go back to that dealership and show the salesman who's the real salesman in this deal.

Good luck.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: John (John K.) on December 18, 2015, 09:47:03 AM
I would talk to the dealer about accepting the bitcoin directly. I have had success convincing companies to take bitcoin via Coinbase/Bitpay - just tell them that at the end they'll have the money wired/ACH'ed to them from the service, and they won't have to touch BTC at all. It's simple and safe for them esp. when they're selling something physical like this - they can simply just wait until the $$ clears to their bank before proceeding.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: John (John K.) on December 18, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?
Yeah these escrow guys claim they have almost done escrow for 75,000 bitcoin transactions!!!
HA HA HA HA what a load of bullshit.   People would meet each other in fucking person for a deal that large.
This is why I don't trust these exit scamming escrow thieves.  They are anonymous, make transactions with themselves to build a fake history of "look I managed a 60k deal last month!".  So fake.

...

^ I do have old escrow addresses and contracts that show deals more then that in terms of escrowing, and I'm pretty sure there's people that does more nowadays. Bitcoin is getting huge, and there's people trading bitcoin for significant amounts of money regularly.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Blazed on December 18, 2015, 01:13:13 PM
I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?
Yeah these escrow guys claim they have almost done escrow for 75,000 bitcoin transactions!!!
HA HA HA HA what a load of bullshit.   People would meet each other in fucking person for a deal that large.
This is why I don't trust these exit scamming escrow thieves.  They are anonymous, make transactions with themselves to build a fake history of "look I managed a 60k deal last month!".  So fake.

But like you said, if you don't trust someone, don't use them. I'm just another guy who does 50k USD in transactions every month albeit not in bitcoin though.
Here's an old one:
http://blockchain.info/address/1Dabso5tsVpM9oZKxu8h4WYUUxjkwxC25Q
50k every month?  But your example is 20 months old, and also it is in bitcoin which you said it wouldn't be.

I get people asking for proof, it's annoying but I prove it.
I don't say 'every month' and flash a 20 month old transaction.

It's cool, you don't need to prove anything to me, I won't verify it because I already trust nobody basically.

I agree that there is always risk involved even when dealing with third party escrows regardless of how trusted they are so perhaps a multi-sig escrow solution would be best for your current needs?

What is a multi-sig escrow?  10 different escrow people?  Tried, and most got mad that they were not asked individually as just one.  More reason I don't trust them.

You sent 10 busy people a message to escrow and called us all exit scammers ::). You did not even have a buyer before sending the message either...amazing we all said no.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 06:54:30 PM
You sent 10 busy people a message to escrow and called us all exit scammers ::). You did not even have a buyer before sending the message either...amazing we all said no.


The "buyer" backed out, saying he did not mean to imply he was willing to do the deal, even though it looked that way.
No, only 2 guys out of 10 said no.  Or were offended they didn't get the full deal.
Are you the one claiming you did a 75,000 Bitcoin deal? 
Or the one claiming 50k a month, quoting a transaction from 20 months ago?
IF SO, then yes I am calling that person specifically an exit scammer.
Stop crying.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 06:56:56 PM
Listen here mate. Without going into too much information in public I'll have you know I have convinced many businesses who sell goods to sell them to me in bitcoin. I explained how easy it was. Set them up with an account on a major exchange and always got the deal done. Once for a sports car valued at $58.000 The problem here is not bitcoin, nor is it the "closed off bitcoin world" as you call it its your ability to pitch bitcoin to the dealership. Bitcoin is money. If someone walked in there with a check would they turn it away? I don't think so. You my friend failed. Not Bitcoin.

Now go back to that dealership and show the salesman who's the real salesman in this deal.

Good luck.

You try and talk a dealer into accepting bitcoin...  It will not happen.
They don't even take credit card.
Checks?  Who the fuck accepts a check in 2015?
If you can talk a dealer into accepting bitcoin, I will give you $400 USD in bitcoin.
You are a big talker, put it to use.  PM me and I will give you all the details for the area, and you can use that area on Craigslist to find one of the cars, call the dealer and spin your Bitcoin talk on them.   You won't because you know it would be a waste of time and nobody will accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Will you again delete my post ? Second time ive quote the guy who said he will wire you the 20k. Now stop your BS.

You're an attention whore, nothing will get done here youre all talk.

NOBODY on this thread offered to wire 20k!
Get your troll but off the thread.
Nobody wants your newbie, 5 post count butt trolling here.
Yes I will delete you =)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 08:01:44 PM
I did not purchase this account, thanks.
You are hiding behind an alt name.

I have signed for the account with 42,000 USD just to show I have money to buy a car.
Nobody is stupid enough to scam a car, with paperwork, registration, title, and VIN.

Get the fuck out of here, troll.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 08:36:26 PM
Youre nothing more than an attention whore.
You can delete my post all you want i have screenshot and proof in my pm yourr all talk.

Proof of what?
That I accepted an escrow deal for a large item with tons of paperwork and registration?
Proof of you being a troll?
Proof that I digitally signed for my 42,000 in bitcoin?
lol
Get a life, troll.
You must be the exit scamming escrow guy claiming to have done 75,000 deals.
You are trolling with your anonymous alt now, because you are mad?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: cashoutservices on December 18, 2015, 08:58:22 PM
Youre nothing more than an attention whore.
You can delete my post all you want i have screenshot and proof in my pm yourr all talk.

Proof of what?
That I accepted an escrow deal for a large item with tons of paperwork and registration?
Proof of you being a troll?
Proof that I digitally signed for my 42,000 in bitcoin?
lol
Get a life, troll.
You must be the exit scamming escrow guy claiming to have done 75,000 deals.
You are trolling with your anonymous alt now, because you are mad?

He quote the guy two time. Why are you claiming that no one offer you the $20k ? The post is on second page.



Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 09:13:23 PM
Youre nothing more than an attention whore.
You can delete my post all you want i have screenshot and proof in my pm yourr all talk.

Proof of what?
That I accepted an escrow deal for a large item with tons of paperwork and registration?
Proof of you being a troll?
Proof that I digitally signed for my 42,000 in bitcoin?
lol
Get a life, troll.
You must be the exit scamming escrow guy claiming to have done 75,000 deals.
You are trolling with your anonymous alt now, because you are mad?

He quote the guy two time. Why are you claiming that no one offer you the $20k ? The post is on second page.



He quoted WHAT?
Nobody said "Yes I will wire you 20k."  Nobody.
One guy said I should use 10 escrow people because of the size of this deal.
Turns out, that guy is NOT offering to do this deal.
Therefore, NOBODY is sending 20k to any car dealership.

So who is the person that is accepting my offer, not talking to me, and not PMing me?
I was given the tip that beepi.com accepts BTC for cars.
And I am going with Beepi.com
On my way out, I replied to some sad escrow guys that are sad that I would not trust an anonymous person with 20k in BTC.

This is my thread, I think I would know if someone accepted my deal or not.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 09:15:19 PM
choose 10 different escrows here and send them 2k each. Il wire you the cash.

This guy did not make any deal with me, because escrow guys want all the money and would not be willing to accept 2k each when they smell a taste of 20k.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 18, 2015, 09:29:43 PM
Eneilwex said "choose 10 different escrows here and send them 2k each. Il wire you the cash." Looks like aj offer to me.
Anyway good luck finding what you're looking for.
Cheers

Kindly stop flooding with unneeded quote chains.  Please limit quotes to ONE quote so your point is not lost in an avalanche.
As I have already said.... that deal did not work, and I explained why.
Cheers.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Blazed on December 18, 2015, 11:58:19 PM
You sent 10 busy people a message to escrow and called us all exit scammers ::). You did not even have a buyer before sending the message either...amazing we all said no.


The "buyer" backed out, saying he did not mean to imply he was willing to do the deal, even though it looked that way.
No, only 2 guys out of 10 said no.  Or were offended they didn't get the full deal.
Are you the one claiming you did a 75,000 Bitcoin deal?  
Or the one claiming 50k a month, quoting a transaction from 20 months ago?
IF SO, then yes I am calling that person specifically an exit scammer.
Stop crying.

That was OgNasty not me, and no he is not an exit scammer. I simply said 10 escrows was ridiculous especially only holding 2k each.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 19, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
Sorry to interrupt. Another n00b question.

Don't people sometimes like to cash out their swag at LBC's? Isn't that an option here?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 19, 2015, 12:17:56 AM
That was OgNasty not me, and no he is not an exit scammer. I simply said 10 escrows was ridiculous especially only holding 2k each.

You are a better person than OgNasty then.
2k is a lot of money to a lot of people.
I have had people rip me off for $5 in BTC.  $2,000 pays a nigerian scammers lifestyle for years! lol


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 19, 2015, 12:18:40 AM
Sorry to interrupt. Another n00b question.

Don't people sometimes like to cash out their swag at LBC's? Isn't that an option here?

Nobody on LBC is replying to my add selling BTC.  Not even for 1% markup.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 19, 2015, 01:40:00 AM
Sorry to interrupt. Another n00b question.

Don't people sometimes like to cash out their swag at LBC's? Isn't that an option here?

Nobody on LBC is replying to my add selling BTC.  Not even for 1% markup.

But hop a bus to London town or Los Angeles city or some other monied-up urban mecca near you. Get a trip in to boot. 8)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Brob12321 on December 19, 2015, 05:45:32 AM
This thread is pretty pointless , you ask all these questions and then find a solution that a simple google search would have yielded all the while insulting everyone saying your this big shot that does things on a "higher level" because you have 20 grand to buy a car that for some reason you felt necessary to make publicized on a forum, in addition you just insulted some of the most trusted members of the community calling them "exit scammers" and "Nigerian Scammers" , simply open a bank account and use Circle or another exchange that's easy to use and your done.  How did you buy your Bitcoins in the first place if you have no bank account ?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ghibly79 on December 19, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
Maybe I can wire the full amount to you (not sure about wiring to a third party, there may be complications), but I have a fee (plus some bank fees cause I'm eur based). Of course I won't go first.
Pm me if you want.

Regards.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: nichlahghe5 on December 19, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Listen here mate. Without going into too much information in public I'll have you know I have convinced many businesses who sell goods to sell them to me in bitcoin. I explained how easy it was. Set them up with an account on a major exchange and always got the deal done. Once for a sports car valued at $58.000 The problem here is not bitcoin, nor is it the "closed off bitcoin world" as you call it its your ability to pitch bitcoin to the dealership. Bitcoin is money. If someone walked in there with a check would they turn it away? I don't think so. You my friend failed. Not Bitcoin.

Now go back to that dealership and show the salesman who's the real salesman in this deal.

Good luck.

You try and talk a dealer into accepting bitcoin...  It will not happen.
They don't even take credit card.
Checks?  Who the fuck accepts a check in 2015?
If you can talk a dealer into accepting bitcoin, I will give you $400 USD in bitcoin.
You are a big talker, put it to use.  PM me and I will give you all the details for the area, and you can use that area on Craigslist to find one of the cars, call the dealer and spin your Bitcoin talk on them.   You won't because you know it would be a waste of time and nobody will accept bitcoin.

Up it to $500 and you have a deal. I'll source the car in your area, you'll go see the car. Upon inspection of the car if you wish to go ahead with the purchase I'll then call and negotiate the deal and negotiate the payment in btc. Either through them taking the btc directly or via a bitcoin payment provider.

Obviously I'll only agree to the deal if you're willing to pay a fair retail for the car. I wont go in there and try to get you a 26K car for 20K tax in. That is not the offer.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 19, 2015, 08:46:09 PM
Up it to $500 and you have a deal. I'll source the car in your area, you'll go see the car. Upon inspection of the car if you wish to go ahead with the purchase I'll then call and negotiate the deal and negotiate the payment in btc. Either through them taking the btc directly or via a bitcoin payment provider.

Obviously I'll only agree to the deal if you're willing to pay a fair retail for the car. I wont go in there and try to get you a 26K car for 20K tax in. That is not the offer.

$500 then sir!!  If you can get a car dealer in my area to sell me a car (I will PM you the type) before Christmas.

If you can negotiate it, cost you nothing but your time and effort.

I agree, BTC direct to the dealer or to the dealers payment provider.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 19, 2015, 08:51:15 PM
This thread is pretty pointless , you ask all these questions and then find a solution that a simple google search would have yielded all the while insulting everyone saying your this big shot that does things on a "higher level" because you have 20 grand to buy a car that for some reason you felt necessary to make publicized on a forum, in addition you just insulted some of the most trusted members of the community calling them "exit scammers" and "Nigerian Scammers" , simply open a bank account and use Circle or another exchange that's easy to use and your done.  How did you buy your Bitcoins in the first place if you have no bank account ?
I never heard of beepi.com and it is not in the first many pages of a google search.
If you have ever used google before you know 1 billion results of junk and only 1 company that sells cars for BTC is worse than a needle in a hay stack.
Indeed, anyone saying they have been asked to do a 75,000 BTC escrow is a complete fucking liar.
Any deal that size is 1) Legal, and therefore does not need anonymity.  2)  Large enough to meet in person and flying around to meet is nothing compared to that cost.   Do I need to spell that out to you?  75,000 is total bullshit.
2k is a lot.  So 20k deserves 10 escrows.  A few were polite gentlemen.  A few were lying sacks, claiming 75,000 bitcoin, or 50k a month, and quoting a 20 month old transaction.  Give me a break.

How did I get my bitcoins?  That is none of your business.
I have more than 20k, I am just looking to spend 20k of it on a car.
Fuck yes I will insult exit scammers and Nigerians all day long.  Get use to it.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 19, 2015, 08:55:13 PM
Maybe I can wire the full amount to you (not sure about wiring to a third party, there may be complications), but I have a fee (plus some bank fees cause I'm eur based). Of course I won't go first.
Pm me if you want.

Regards.

I do not want you to wire me anything.  Or people will cry on this thread.
Thank you for trying to find a solution.
Of course I would not send anyone 20k in BTC first.


I won't make it in time for Christmas unless Nichlahghe5 is a magician on the phone.  =)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Brob12321 on December 19, 2015, 10:22:36 PM
This thread is pretty pointless , you ask all these questions and then find a solution that a simple google search would have yielded all the while insulting everyone saying your this big shot that does things on a "higher level" because you have 20 grand to buy a car that for some reason you felt necessary to make publicized on a forum, in addition you just insulted some of the most trusted members of the community calling them "exit scammers" and "Nigerian Scammers" , simply open a bank account and use Circle or another exchange that's easy to use and your done.  How did you buy your Bitcoins in the first place if you have no bank account ?
I never heard of beepi.com and it is not in the first many pages of a google search.
If you have ever used google before you know 1 billion results of junk and only 1 company that sells cars for BTC is worse than a needle in a hay stack.
Indeed, anyone saying they have been asked to do a 75,000 BTC escrow is a complete fucking liar.
Any deal that size is 1) Legal, and therefore does not need anonymity.  2)  Large enough to meet in person and flying around to meet is nothing compared to that cost.   Do I need to spell that out to you?  75,000 is total bullshit.
2k is a lot.  So 20k deserves 10 escrows.  A few were polite gentlemen.  A few were lying sacks, claiming 75,000 bitcoin, or 50k a month, and quoting a 20 month old transaction.  Give me a break.

How did I get my bitcoins?  That is none of your business.
I have more than 20k, I am just looking to spend 20k of it on a car.
Fuck yes I will insult exit scammers and Nigerians all day long.  Get use to it.

lmao yeah perhaps 75000 was the total amount of BTC they've ever escrowed or maybe at a time when Bitcoin was very cheap.  I'll insult nigerian scammers all day and exit scammers , in fact if you go on Youtube there are a huge collection of people screwing with Nigerian scammers and its hilarious,  I just didn't think those members doing escrow were those type of people.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 20, 2015, 07:33:40 PM
Yeah so nobody accepts Bitcoin except beepi.com
The guy I offered $500 to get a dealer that does, hasn't found anyone either.
All dealerships act as if I am crazy, offering monopoly money.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 20, 2015, 07:46:01 PM
Yeah so nobody accepts Bitcoin except beepi.com
The guy I offered $500 to get a dealer that does, hasn't found anyone either.
All dealerships act as if I am crazy, offering monopoly money.

Surprise!


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 20, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
Some accept, some do not.
Unfortunately, all of them in my state, do not.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: btc-mike on December 20, 2015, 08:14:30 PM
Nobody on LBC is replying to my add selling BTC.  Not even for 1% markup.

Have you sold any BTC at all? Anywhere?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 20, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
Some on LBL, but never anything over 2k


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: btc-mike on December 20, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
Some on LBL, but never anything over 2k

Post or pm your ad. i will look it over. i do about $1k of trades daily, mostly btc sales.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 20, 2015, 10:55:13 PM
Some on LBL, but never anything over 2k

Post or pm your ad. i will look it over. i do about $1k of trades daily, mostly btc sales.

I don't think you are in my area, it's just an ad for BTC for cash.  Nothing electronic, no paypal or WU or MG.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: btc-mike on December 20, 2015, 11:08:40 PM
Some on LBL, but never anything over 2k

Post or pm your ad. i will look it over. i do about $1k of trades daily, mostly btc sales.

I don't think you are in my area, it's just an ad for BTC for cash.  Nothing electronic, no paypal or WU or MG.

Why not WU or MG? It seems like you are trying to make this as painful as possible. Nobody is going to walk up and give you $20k of cash.

Somebody offered to wire you money. That along with escrow on this site is the best offer you can get.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 20, 2015, 11:54:50 PM
Some on LBL, but never anything over 2k

Post or pm your ad. i will look it over. i do about $1k of trades daily, mostly btc sales.

I don't think you are in my area, it's just an ad for BTC for cash.  Nothing electronic, no paypal or WU or MG.

Why not WU or MG? It seems like you are trying to make this as painful as possible. Nobody is going to walk up and give you $20k of cash.

Somebody offered to wire you money. That along with escrow on this site is the best offer you can get.
The offer to wire money was not a serious offer.  And I do not want a wire to me, I wanted it to the dealership.
Escrow was not possible, because out of 10, only 4 responded.   1 lied about having a 75,000 BTC offer in the past, reenforcing my opinion of free anonymous escrow trust.
WU and MG will not do a bank wire for that amount without putting a hold on it, and IDing the shit out of everyone, and demanding IRS paperwork and deducting taxes on the spot.  Not to mention fees.

20k in cash at a safe place like a bank is possible, but NOT what I asked for.

Beepi.com is the only reasonable way to spend large amounts of bitcoin.
Escrow is just dangerous as hell after talking to a few of these guys.
And WU, MG etc want fees, then tax paperwork.  I wish to avoid taxes, I do not support terrorism so I do not pay taxes that fund Isis.  (Yes I am saying the USA supports and funds ISIS, that is already proven I don't wish to debate it. )


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: btc-mike on December 21, 2015, 12:14:59 AM
The offer to wire money was not a serious offer.  And I do not want a wire to me, I wanted it to the dealership.

The offer looked real. Was something said in pm? Use escrow on LBC, it is only 1%.

Nobody is going to wire to your dealership. Third party trades are a nightmare.

WU and MG will not do a bank wire for that amount without putting a hold on it, and IDing the shit out of everyone, and demanding IRS paperwork and deducting taxes on the spot.  Not to mention fees.

Make several trades under $10k. Anything around or above $10k triggers the IRS notification.

And WU, MG etc want fees,

Buyer is always responsible for fees.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 21, 2015, 11:02:41 PM
The offer to wire money was not a serious offer.  And I do not want a wire to me, I wanted it to the dealership.

The offer looked real. Was something said in pm? Use escrow on LBC, it is only 1%.

Nobody is going to wire to your dealership. Third party trades are a nightmare.

WU and MG will not do a bank wire for that amount without putting a hold on it, and IDing the shit out of everyone, and demanding IRS paperwork and deducting taxes on the spot.  Not to mention fees.

Make several trades under $10k. Anything around or above $10k triggers the IRS notification.

And WU, MG etc want fees,

Buyer is always responsible for fees.

Thanks for the effort I went with Beepi =)
It was insanely easy.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: biggbox on December 22, 2015, 01:12:59 PM
Did OP manage to close the deal successfully? :) Just being curious of the outcome.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: omegaflare on December 23, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
This is dodgy. Extremely fishy.

I guess you shouldn't be here fearmongering those people on this forum, LE.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on December 25, 2015, 07:30:38 PM
Did OP manage to close the deal successfully? :) Just being curious of the outcome.

Yes I did take the advice of going to beepi.com!
I told them WOW, it was SO easy to buy a car with them.
They did all the paperwork for registration and EVEN took the effort to shop around and find me multiple insurance quote offers!  I do not need that, but they are one stop shopping for real.

My new car is on a flat bed truck, on it's way to me right now!
It will show up with a bow on the hood and everything!
I did not get it right away as I wanted.
But I do feel like I got a very honest price and fair deal for the money with a full long warranty, and some crazy 300? point inspection done for me.   I even get a 10 day money back guarantee if it turns out I change my mind or got mad about something.

Very nice website and advice from the community!
This community always has good answers to stuff that I could NOT have found in the haystack of google search results millions of links deep.

You guys rock.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: biggbox on January 01, 2016, 08:11:56 AM
Did OP manage to close the deal successfully? :) Just being curious of the outcome.

Yes I did take the advice of going to beepi.com!
I told them WOW, it was SO easy to buy a car with them.
They did all the paperwork for registration and EVEN took the effort to shop around and find me multiple insurance quote offers!  I do not need that, but they are one stop shopping for real.

My new car is on a flat bed truck, on it's way to me right now!
It will show up with a bow on the hood and everything!
I did not get it right away as I wanted.
But I do feel like I got a very honest price and fair deal for the money with a full long warranty, and some crazy 300? point inspection done for me.   I even get a 10 day money back guarantee if it turns out I change my mind or got mad about something.

Very nice website and advice from the community!
This community always has good answers to stuff that I could NOT have found in the haystack of google search results millions of links deep.

You guys rock.

Thanks @ClownSpider for keeping everyone updated. I hope you enjoy your new ride! :) But what happened to your Bitcoins?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 02, 2016, 01:58:19 AM

Thanks @ClownSpider for keeping everyone updated. I hope you enjoy your new ride! :) But what happened to your Bitcoins?

Nothing happened to my bitcoins.  What are you talking about?
I am buying a car, with bitcoins, and I still have more bitcoins.  So what do you mean?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: biggbox on January 02, 2016, 06:50:32 AM

Thanks @ClownSpider for keeping everyone updated. I hope you enjoy your new ride! :) But what happened to your Bitcoins?

Nothing happened to my bitcoins.  What are you talking about?
I am buying a car, with bitcoins, and I still have more bitcoins.  So what do you mean?

Haha. Sorry. I did not ask clearly:

(1) You've managed to sell your bitcoins for cash, then purchase the car?

(2) Or you exchange your bitcoins with the car dealer for the car?

If it is the latter, isn't that a historical breakthrough for bitcoins? :)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 04, 2016, 05:52:40 AM
Haha. Sorry. I did not ask clearly:

(1) You've managed to sell your bitcoins for cash, then purchase the car?

(2) Or you exchange your bitcoins with the car dealer for the car?

If it is the latter, isn't that a historical breakthrough for bitcoins? :)

It was #2.
I was able to buy a car directly with Bitcoin!
omg omg omg!
And I would call that historical.
However the website ships nationally, and accepts BTC.
Some other random, far away dealers also advertise accepting BTC.
And there is a rumor of a guy buying a Tesla or Lambo with BTC.  The result being people incorrectly claiming that Tesla accepts BTC, and they do NOT.  Not on their website.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Timelord2067 on January 04, 2016, 06:52:30 AM
Haha. Sorry. I did not ask clearly:

(1) You've managed to sell your bitcoins for cash, then purchase the car?

(2) Or you exchange your bitcoins with the car dealer for the car?

If it is the latter, isn't that a historical breakthrough for bitcoins? :)

It was #2.
I was able to buy a car directly with Bitcoin!
omg omg omg!
And I would call that historical.
However the website ships nationally, and accepts BTC.
Some other random, far away dealers also advertise accepting BTC.
And there is a rumor of a guy buying a Tesla or Lambo with BTC.  The result being people incorrectly claiming that Tesla accepts BTC, and they do NOT.  Not on their website.

Good to read you managed to put your BTC to great use - I hope you put one BitCoin into a paper wallet as a memento for the future?

In an case, you might want to lock this thread to save others asking for trades (link bottom left hand side).

Regards,


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: biggbox on January 04, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
Haha. Sorry. I did not ask clearly:

(1) You've managed to sell your bitcoins for cash, then purchase the car?

(2) Or you exchange your bitcoins with the car dealer for the car?

If it is the latter, isn't that a historical breakthrough for bitcoins? :)

It was #2.
I was able to buy a car directly with Bitcoin!
omg omg omg!
And I would call that historical.
However the website ships nationally, and accepts BTC.
Some other random, far away dealers also advertise accepting BTC.
And there is a rumor of a guy buying a Tesla or Lambo with BTC.  The result being people incorrectly claiming that Tesla accepts BTC, and they do NOT.  Not on their website.

You've managed to trade your bitcoins for a car? That should be on national news or Coindesk.com! :)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 06, 2016, 07:23:17 PM
Good to read you managed to put your BTC to great use - I hope you put one BitCoin into a paper wallet as a memento for the future?

In an case, you might want to lock this thread to save others asking for trades (link bottom left hand side).

Regards,

Thank you.
Best use of bitcoin I found so far!
I have a question for you.
What is a "paper wallet"?  Because I had a guy want to pay me 4 BTC, but he DEMANDED that I give him a paper wallet.
He offered instructions to import/export.  I cussed him out and told him I was not stupid, and I will not give him my private key.  I also caught him lying about paying me with Paypal, then his bank.  So his story changed from paypal paying me via bitcoin, to his bank sending the BTC.  No bank does that and paypal does not do that.  He claimed it was normal because they require a paper wallet.  I told him to fuck off.  He had my wallet address and that is all I was going to provide.   Fucking scammers.
I have 42 BTC left, so I think that is savings enough.  In 2 years I hope it will be more widely accepted and go up in value.

A paper wallet just means you are printing your public AND private key for offline storage?

It is a fun thread.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 06, 2016, 07:26:21 PM
You've managed to trade your bitcoins for a car? That should be on national news or Coindesk.com! :)

Yes and they dealership did call me to ask for permission to invite the media that has been wanting to do a story on this once someone paid in BTC.   But I declined as I do not want to be on TV or be known.  This is bitcoin after all. 


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Dabs on January 06, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
What is a "paper wallet"? ...

A paper wallet just means you are printing your public AND private key for offline storage?

Usually, it's a private key that is generated offline, never on any network, and printed on paper. Usually the public key is also printed. Sometimes you just print the private key in wallet import format (the ones that start with 5 or K or L), or you also include a QR code.

You could use Core and export the private keys, or vanitygen, or paperwal.py, or bitaddress.org. There are several others. The point is to print one, and send your coins to that address.

When you need to use your coins, you then import the private key, or sweep it, or otherwise make a transaction.

Since it is on paper, the only way for someone to steal your coins is to get possession of that paper. So you safe guard your paper wallet, store it in a fireproof safe at home or a safety deposit box at your bank.

Those metal engravings or wood/stone carvings, or etched on plastic/glass are all "paper" wallets, just using different materials.


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: biggbox on January 07, 2016, 05:09:17 PM
You've managed to trade your bitcoins for a car? That should be on national news or Coindesk.com! :)

Yes and they dealership did call me to ask for permission to invite the media that has been wanting to do a story on this once someone paid in BTC.   But I declined as I do not want to be on TV or be known.  This is bitcoin after all. 


Next on the list: A property fully paid by BTC! haha. :)


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 09, 2016, 07:22:31 PM
Yes so that guy claiming his "bank" would send me BTC but required I create a paper wallet, was attempting to scam me for a private key, and failed.

Yes a property would be nice!


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: Bitcoinpro on January 10, 2016, 04:43:57 AM
First article to come up on google says they been accepting for a while now and first sale would get 1k off price


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: justspare on January 11, 2016, 05:41:40 AM
I would like a car tomorrow.
An exchange requires time, verification time, and a US bank account, all things I don't have time for.
I also do not have a USA bank account.
Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes time to do things. Use an exchange and wait a bit of time. This seems like a scam.  >:(


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 16, 2016, 05:30:32 AM
First article to come up on google says they been accepting for a while now and first sale would get 1k off price
Nice.  I did not get a 1k discount however.  Must be old news.

I can confirm Beepi.com do accept a payment fully for a car in Bitcoin,

I just chat with a sales man on their website using online chat and he confirmed this. Quite impressive !!!

Yes indeed.  click any car, click "make this car mine" (or whatever) and Bitcoin is an option.
I confirm they accepted BTC.

Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes time to do things. Use an exchange and wait a bit of time. This seems like a scam.  >:(

If you are not going to read how this thread concluded to see that it is finished successfully, then shut the fuck up you stupid jackass.
Car bought.  Escrow offered but not needed or wanted. 


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: viking02 on January 16, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
can you confirm what happened here?  So you bought a car with btc and didn't need anyones help here?


where are you located by the way?  I assume the usa right and you are american?


Title: Re: $20,087.25 worth of BTC for sale.
Post by: ClownSpider on January 20, 2016, 07:16:44 AM
can you confirm what happened here?  So you bought a car with btc and didn't need anyones help here?


where are you located by the way?  I assume the usa right and you are american?

I did buy a car with bitcoin from a dealership.
I would like to THANK RodeoX for the advice on Beepi.

You could just buy the car with bitcoin and avoid all the hassle?

Buy any kind of car:
http://cars.overstock.com/?referrer_id=ZOSCOHP0001&TID=HEAD:Cars

Buy any car and have it delivered:
https://www.beepi.com/

Have a custom electric car made to order:
https://www.teslamotors.com/


There are actually many other car dealerships that take bitcoin. Your wasting your time and bitcoin switching back and forth between currencies. Bitcoin IS MONEY!

My race, nationality, and citizenship do not exist.  I am just an anonymous voice online.  =)
Thank you.