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Will the value of bitcoin go up because of halving to mining reward or will this cause a crash?

The same way as the halving affect all cryptcoins: by a pump.

Only thing left to discussion is the size and exact timing

The bitcoin value will definitely go up, as the miner will be selling (all or part of) their reward to pay for the expenses. If the price remains, they will not be able to survive.

Yes the one who sell coin daily are the bitcoin miners and if they will get only half amount of bitcoin as reward after halving. Bitcoin must be pumped almost double to around 1k to compensate expense of mining.

This is what I don't understand, and I've posted this in another thread about the same thing:  I think the price of bitcoin already reflects the halving.  It's not a surprise, and so there should be no reaction to it once it happens. 

Does that make sense?  I'm not a huge believer in the efficient market hypothesis, but I think it should be true for this.

halving itself doesn't, some people will pump the price up though. However I think that the price will be saturated at least a month before the halving or even sooner.  

mining machines will have to double in speed or cost half the
price unless bitcoin rockets higher which is what i think / hope
will happen. I would love to see $1000 again.

It can't get pumped , at least not to 1000$ like you said .
Halving will get the new mined coins halved (12.5 BTC) instead of (25 BTC) and not the existent one , so a 100% increase on the price is impossible to happen .

the value will be affected through hype, which will increase the so called "random demand", and because miners want to save their ass because it's their business, they can even pump the value themselves

Halving can reduce the newly "minted" coins to the market, so the new money required to support the price will be reduced.

The value will definitely rise because of hype at first, there might even be a small crash afterwards, but over time it will increase again.

I dunno, I could see some kind of snowball effect where, because of mainstream media coverage, there could be increased interest with the general public, causing another bubble.

... or the cost of mining drops as the least efficient miners stop mining and the difficulty goes down.

People say that it goes up and some say it goes down and some say it goes down and than it goes up.
For me I just want to see bitcoin at 800 dollar before halving. We will see what well happen to bitcoin after the halving.

I expected the slight rise to 400 a few months ago. But that rise should happen around march/april, not in oktober. Since some parties involved. wanted a higher before the year closing, i still thng we will see a rise but to 500 max.

500 USD Is a nice price compared to the 250 usd we were in.

250 USD > 25 BTC per block
500 USD > 12.5 BTC per block

I didnt experience halving yet... :P
but in my understanding...when we go to halving, we will indeed have
a price increase but we still dont know how big it is. and also i believe
that in halving it is not like. example todays bitcoin price is 400 then tomorrow it will be 1000.
maybe it will some slowly increase like 50-$100 each increase...
well its just my understanding.and also i doubt it that it will become $1000 per btc.

no this is not true, at all the current value is more than enough to sustain any mining activity with 0.05 cent of electricity and a s7 miner in action

also no one said that miners are currently dumping half of the coins mined(1800), maybe they are only dumping 1/4, which mean that after the halving nothing will really change by this point of view....

Before the halving happens I think we will reach around the 500 to 800 dollars.
When the halving comes we will see a high chances that bitcoin will grow to 1000 dollars.

Bitcoins' value will depend not only on people like us who earn it with different ways, but on the miners themselves as if they decide to just sell their coins after mining with the fear of getting dumped in future, then we might see a crash, else there's a huge possibility of Bitcoins to boom...

I have asked a similar question some months ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074504.0

I personally expect a constant value increase of Bitcoin price after halving. Currently, there are generated more than 3000 Bitcoins a day and the price keeps stable or even is increasing slowly. After halving, the daily Bitcoins generation will be around 1500 Bitcoins. If you understand the principle of offer and demand, you can imagine how this will affect the price development.

With all these hype regarding the pump at the halving I'm beginning to see a lot of people will be disappointed when the time comes.

You have to take into consideration that this is 2nd halving of bitcoin. And if I remember correctly after the first one bitcoin price went down. It's true that
Apparently it seems that expecting only good outcome - price increase after halving is not always smart judging by bitcoin strange tendencies.

OP short term, the value will go up, but in the long term, if bitcoin prices go down, it wont be profitable for miners and they will stop mining, which will lead to the coin crashing

The value of bitcoin will rise on halving but not for long it's affect will stay for 1 or 2 quarter only.

This halving by itself most certainly wont cause any crash, but i am skeptical about too high expectations because we have already gone up from
somewhat stabilized price of 230-240 all the was to current 450-460 USD. The only certain thing i would say is that on halving day, price will be double from
that long stable market price.

Last halving there was not a huge pump or dump, but this time i think that the price will not crash at least.

Why will a lot of people be disappointed? Do you think that halving will have no impact on the Bitcoin price?

he is clearly wrong, as i see it the effect of the halving is already started, the last pump was part of it for sure

like it was said the effect of the halving can occur long before it

The price right now is good enough for bitcoin mining to remain profitable, so we don't need a price rise.
My guess now is that we could see a stable price, without high fluctuation.

As i said in other posts i think the price of bitcoin will increase right up until the halving with alot of activity in the days before, during and after but within a week the price will fall again and settle for a while.  ;D

There is no need for the price to increase now.

If you look at most new miners, it will be profitable at this rate. ROI is what counts, and this moment it is profitable and achievable.

Of course it will. It is a big change to the bitcoin economy, or ecosystem. The supply will decrease, and miners will Stuart to leave. This will cause higher TX fees, and people also leaving bitcoin. After this, people will fight for the fastest transaction speed, and the TX fee will rise sharply. After this happens, miners again would be attracted to the high fees.

And repeat.

Yep... But the thing untrue about your statement is that the miners will start to leave. They won't if the price of BTC goes up in accordance to the halving.

At the same time, new mining will join the competition if the price of bitcoin goes more than one fold. There are many more different scenario of halving price impact on mining and the other aspects of bitcoin ecosystem. Simple and most expected is double the price and more miners come in.

The effect for halving has already taken place, the price is almost double the price it was before and because the coin reward will he halved we will still  lose our coins on miners or electricity after halving.
it's is a planned game nothing much to worry about unless you get free electricity or ultra cheap equipment.

Taking the current market situation into consideration I don't think there will be a price dump but more chances of price increase because Bitcoin is doing really well nowadays and even if the price drops down in second quarter of 2016 it will again pump up during last quarter of 2016 just like how it happened this year

when btcoin halving happen on next August,nobody know what will happen to bitcoin price,even many expert dont know what will happen,and i search it on some site. but i wih it will make bitcoin price better,lets hope bitcoin price raise up to $1000 when bitcoin halving happen.

The supply will not decrease. It is increasing now and it will continue to increase after the halving. Bitcoins are not consumed. There will always be more and more bitcoins available for sale until the subsidy goes to 0.

How many times discussed about this topic.... It would be enough to do a simple search and will find tons of posts about this question. Thread created this, for more, with only few words in the form of a simple banal question. The only news is the second part which guess a crash of the price after the halving. But no one word why must have probability to happen this guess (without any kind of foundation). Now want me to do a question to OP. I am unable to find even only one very little reason about the why of this your supposition. May you give even only one reason which make you to write these words? In this way I can learn something new (and unimaginable for my mind). Or creating this post you wanted that your nick be written with gold letters at the hall of fame of those who has open (are authors of the open of) threads at bitcointalk?

I apologize n2004al for the unoriginal post, I am completely new to the forums but will search for similar posts in the future before posting!  :-[
I will now try to answer your question about why I added the guess of a crash...

It seems the overall consensus is that the value of bitcoins will go up as a result of halving mining reward. But it may be helpful to look at the recent history of Litecoin which has already undergone a halving in its mining reward. We can see after the halving of the block reward for Litecoin from 50 to 25 LTC on Aug 25th, the price was fairly stable the value of Litecoin actually declined days after but then quickly retained around its original value prior to Aug 25th. When the time comes for Bitcoin to be halved, I would imagine miners will be disappointed with receiving half as many btc, since I really don't see any large increase to the valuation of bitcoins. I believe the short term affect of the halving will be a decline since miners will be forced to sell off larger portions of their mined Bitcoins to expand their operations just so they can still see some profit from the smaller block rewards. For those who believe the price may double, realize that as odolvlobo said the supply is not decreasing its just the rate at which the supply is growing is just lower.

I don't necessarily think bitcoin will crash but perhaps we will see some decline during July. Even if bitcoin was going to drastically increase it would have already done so way before July 2016 since the halving of the block reward is public knowledge.

No one knows. probably miners see the reward become half and the mining profits cannot sustain the operation cost, they dump the coins to cause the price decline.
Only the growth rate is reduced. The supply is still increasing, not as fast as befor halving.

Some rumours hanging around that one of the reason of the last pump would be that there are alot of ponzis going around at Asia especially south eash asia that have switch into bitcoin instead of traditional fiat. The halving will have another pump soon when it is reaching the limit, as of now I dont see it to be caused by halving yet since there isnt any hype

I cannot get your logic. Since we know that most of the bitcoin trading volume is dominated at CNY. The price of movement probably come from the Chinese speculators. It is still early to say the price will stabilize at this level in the future. Some miners may be scared of the declining price in the upcoming halving and decide to dump the coins. SO let's wait and see.

Most of the volume in chinese exchanger are fakes anyway. Since there is no trading fee in the chinese exchanger, some people could keep selling and buying for the sake of pumping the volume and confusing everyone, thats the reason why their volume is not listed in some statistics site

Zero trading charges might not the right reason for higher volume. Buying or selling must required some funds (considering they can provide big level of leverages). Fees is highly negligible when comparing to bitcoin prices. So, I do not think the higher volume in Chinese exchanges are fake or just due to zero fee for trading.

What you are saying is just really dumb imo. If you are going to fake some volumes ofcourse you will have the funds to do so or else it cant be done and also since it has no trading fees, the insider could just fake some volumes as well regardless

The MMM has announced to stop withdraw temporally, maybe it cannot continue for long. But the bitcoin price has not dropped.

I think that halving didn't get any particular value to btc... not much as 15% maximum.
Normally a price reflect "the future" and "the past"... the old price above 1000$ was really conditioned by mt.gox scam... and this is not the "real max value of btc".... probably the really price was around 500-700 $... and in the future with halving we can see again this price, but it's not impossible we can touch before halving these price range...

It has to affect the price, I'm sure of it.
Miners will be getting half of what they're getting now. Although, it's not like they're dumping everything to make their mining sustainable, still they will need a price increase.

Not just the MMM but there are alot of local ponzis going around in most of the south east asian countries. Thats one of the main reason that the price has been stable since people keep buyng to join these ponzis. I live in a south east asian country and believe me I know whats going on in my country :)

pre-halving pump is ongoing, look at all those mainstream fuckers hyping it.
you know what! I liked BTC even when touching 200.
Death to fiat! Death to corporate blockchain! Death to 2.0 garbage!
Only BTC.

You cannot really talk about effect of halving before halving. I don't believe in pre-halving effect. It is too soon for that. I want to know what will happen AFTER actually halving hits us.
And based of previous events (Litecoin halving, 1st bitcoin halving) price went down - every time. Will it be the same this time?

yeah but they are not telling you why those ponzi are going around, and i can clearly say that is in part for the halving

chinese will not pump the price for the halvign when everyone will expect it, this is obvious, if you think that they will let their 60% of the network without profit, you're being naive

The recent price could be due to the expectation of halving effect. When the halving actually happens, the price might not rise.

Got a bad feeling that the pre-halving pump is already over done, after the halving the value would drop back to the pre-pump level.

If you only talk about the next halving, the value of bitcoin can be expected to raised a lot accompanied by the hype of the pump in the price of bitcoin at the moment. But on later halvings this will cause a considerable problem because the mining reward will be too low and the fee will be really high. This can mark the end of bitcoin in my opinion

if you think that it is over, then sell your coins and buy back later :) i think the pump has not even started yet. the price goes up, yes. but the real bull run or rally will come 1 or 2 months before the halving.

I hope to see a nice a pump.Maybe a doubling of the actual price?Who knows.
The question is when will this kick in.I believe the halving effect will start before the halving and also could have an after effect, which hopefully isn't a big dump.In worst case I believe we would stay where we are now.

I agree this is not even the beginning of the pre-halving pump yet. This is the pump coming from China's regulation only. We should hold some bitcoin and wait for the real pump before the halving

That is exactly going to happen in 2016, when the block reward halving occurs. A lot of short traders have jumped in during the last 2-3 months, expecting a big spike in the exchange rate once the reward halving occurs. Once it become clear that the halving will have no effect on the exchange rates, these traders are likely to dump their coins, causing a crash in the exchange rate. 

I suppose we will see a very diverted market. Some expect a high rise, some a low if there will be no rise.
The other halving nothing much has happened. That would be my guess too.

You people have to learn how to use the search function. There are more than ten duplicates of this thread.

The price would rise, the miners would start pumping their saved up bitcoin so the double, so the 12.5 BTC is worth what 25 BTC used to be.

Halving have the same effect of a difficulty jump by 50%, and we already had that recently, so it is not a big event worth notice

So that's mean will not give affect anything, especially price will jump high and i hope we can back to $1000 after halving

this mean that the price need to go up again, because the diff jump already killed the margin on profit for the halving that is coming

Definitely because there will be less reward for the miners. The price must go up.

Well almost all people say the price will rise, so that is also my prediction. That the price will rise because less coins will be mined.

The media will only jump in once Bitcoin reaches the $1000 price level again. If that's going to happen, then yes, there will be a lot speculation in the price that will make the price come down again at some point after the block halving. There will be a lot YOLO people stepping into Bitcoin to make a quick profit. It will be kinda like the previous time when the price touched $1000 for the first time. Pure madness.

Like that wasn't fun!
The mainstream media unfortunately is interested only in hype and FUD, so that's why they (will) jump in at $1000.
Bitcoin still needs something epic to happen for the media to grab it and start saying good stuff about it.

In theory that is logical. But have you studied history of other crypto halvings? It will be 2nd bitcoin halving, and litecoin had halving before as well.
And you know what happened back then? Price instead of rising went significantly down.

Not necessarily, dude...
It's us speculating that the "PRICE MUST GO UP" when halving takes place...
Who knows, we might lose many miners' interest in Bitcoins and see some downtime which might let the price back down to where it was???
There are many factors, so deciding just on the "halving" factor won't do anything alone...

Hehe so much for the theory. :)
Let's hope it will play out like that, then there's nothing to worry about.
However in the end and also could end in a completely different scenario. For instance that we see no rise in value, therefore some guys are disappointed and start to sell their stash.Result is the price will decrease. That would be something I guess no one here of us wants to become reality.

I think Yes it will, because many people will invest in bitcoin before reward halving happen, we will see hike in bitcoin price before halving but after halving it can drop again to stable price range.

We can all expect the price back to the stable price range because after the price got pumped up pretty high people will begin to dump it. Everything will be back to normal ;D

I haven't heard much good about Bitcoin from the media so far. Here in the media, it's either Bitcoin price is reaching a 12 month high, or criminals demanding Bitcoin ransom. They just want to highlight the bad things, and that's it.

Bitcoin is bad, it's a criminal currency, it's being used to finance terrorism, it's being used to launder money, bla bla bla. That says enough. :-\

Thats the main reason i think that the price of bitcoin is raising in the last weeks/months, the incoming halving.

Would be pretty easy that the price become x2, the real challenge and what intrigues me is what will happen after few months after the halving...

I believe nothing will happen, like nothing happened the last time.

The price is actually good right now for most asic miners to keep on running profitable. I do expect a minor pump in march/april though.

For mining to profitable we need a price somewhere around 500. If the price is above that we will see no change. If it's less then that the price will adjust to 500.
If not we will see a lot of miners going...

Well, Vishal Gupta, the of CEO SearchTrade recently said that the last Bitcoin halving had an 8x impact on price back in 2012. interesting fact, although i think that the impact will be smaller, but 2 or 3x could be possible.

With respect to current bitcoin adoption and user-base rate, I predict the impact will go in multiplication of previous one. Yes, you can expect 16 times or 24 times of price raise of bitcoin based on halving consequences. Roughly I expect the price to test $10k levels around this halving.

when the time is right for the bitcoin price could rise after halving?
I must be prepared to buy some bitcoin, surely

whoooooot  :o

well there will most definitely be a significant affect on the value in my opinion and the price i think will go only up because there will be less bitcoins mined every block that the miners will find i cant wait for this event as it has happened only once yet

Well after this post which was after a week i see that it already happened a dump these days as the price crashed more than 10%

the halfing will increase the less suplly soo more high price for the sell

What about if less demand, still price increase?? I don't think so halving will give big affect into the price

most likely there will be a price run up to the halving and a sell off correction either right before or after the halving. See litecoin's recent halving.

First sorry to give a reply so late. But I try to find always new topics to read and discuss after the discussion or posting in one of those because normally if you have told what you think about the aim for which is made the thread is hard to give other opinions or thoughts because the aim remain the same. So remain to discuss about the thoughts of the others or discuss about their ideas. To tell the right I believe in the freedom of expression and the right that everyone must have to have its ideas and its convictions. This made me rarely to discuss about the thoughts of the others because think that don't have the right to discuss about their convictions. I do comments only when there are cases that according to me (and this doesn't mean that I have right) are to "silly" to not be commented. This reason make me to visit rarely the threads when I post (even I click the "notify" link for every thread in which discuss) and this reason bring me so late in your thread. Bad behavior this because may have reply to my posts and this reply must make to give answer. Like this case.

Lets come to your reply. First, you cannot be hungry about a your mistake. If someone make e mistake (as you personally accept) in the worst of cases can ignore that person who mention this his action and the story end here. In the best of cases passe everything with a joke or something similar. Can be hundred other reactions between the above mentioned but it is not normal or justifiable to become hungry. Maybe can become hungry who read for the tenths time the same post but not the author of the tenth similar post.

Second the reason explained by you that made you to take in consideration the crash of bitcoin has several inaccuracies. I am giving shortly my thoughts abou those.

First there was not any kind of drop of price of litecoin (except maybe some normal fluctuations). You explanations are not correct. It was a drop of network hashrate but not in the price. Hashrate that come back to the normal values after few time. The network hashrate is totally other thing with the price. If you are not able to understand this I am sorry. I am giving below two sources (which include in their analyses even the calendar dates mentioned by you) which can prove my words:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/litecoin-block-reward-halving/ (http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/litecoin-block-reward-halving/)

http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-first-mining-reward-decline/ (http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-first-mining-reward-decline/)

Anyhow you can have your sources that can be much more accurate that mines. I invite you to show here those. Because I don't see any reference in your post. Only the word of someone offended without reason.

Second, in your post you write: "We can see after the halving of the block reward for Litecoin from 50 to 25 LTC on Aug 25th, the price was fairly stable the value of Litecoin actually declined days after but then quickly retained around its original value prior to Aug 25th."

Here you yet make another gaffe. You use the word "decline" (the most "strong" word used by you regarding the drop of price of litecoin after the halving) in your comment. Even if your words can be true (thing this not true according to the above sources) cannot be considered never a "decline" like a "crash". Are way away with each other. If you cannot understand even this (like the above) I am again sorry about you. So we find here an inappropriate use of one word very heavy for something much more "light" event (if happened). Used only when is not known the meaning of the words or in the worst of cases to create suspense and attention about the person who use those (thinking that is an savant because use strong but right words) and the thread or post created by him. I would like to be the first case because if can be the second the OP has big problems with himself (adding to this case even his reaction versus my post).

I will advice you to do a search and to find sources which explain the real meaning of all the concepts and words used not in the right place by you.

Hope that you will take every my word written above not as an attack to you but only as a normal reaction to your post. I will have a particular attention for this thread. So hope to be more faster in an possible answer to an your possible answer to my reply to your reply about that I have written in my post regarding your main post and your thread.

in my opinion it will make the price to go up significantly

In a normal environment the bitcoin price would go up.

But take notice that the current price is actually quite good for miners.
Most asics can mine with profit right now.

The last halving not a lot happened to the price, so yes i don't expect anything to  happend this halving.
Like alwys i wiill just buy a few extra bitcoins, for a eventual price rally.

I would not expect some price action. The current price is ok even for miners.
Btw most next generation miners that will come in march would be very profitable if the price is above  400 usd.

I can see people buying bitcoins now since the price is low rather than people dumping their coins. Most who are selling their coins are the ones who bought those coins when the price was $260-$300 few months back.

Not 400, but $500 would be a better option for miners in order to continue mining, because they never had any problems when the price was in the range of 250 - 300.
Halving might blow the prices up a lot than we are thinking, but that will just be a pump, the real price must be between 500 and 700.

The the block reward drops to 1.25 and the price rise to $900, it is still the same profit for miners. They will keep on mining.

no because in that case it will be 1/10 of what the next block reward is(2016), this mean that the value must be 10x of what it is now at least, so 4k and not only 900

miners will maintain the same profit as today, that's the point, in fact they have the same profit as it was in 2013

It won't be 1.25, but 12.5 my friend...
And the price has already doubled from where it was, but we still need to see it above $600 for the miners to remain in the game...
They ain't mining just for fun, they too have their families and real life which they need to take care of...

Yeah if the income generated from mining isn't enough to cover their electric + cooling costs they might quit.

When the block reward drop to 1.25 (around), it will be many years away. The price will be much higher than $9,000.

We had a prehalving pump this xmas

The extent of that pump is too small. If it is the halving pump, the price should at least doubled.

only if the diff will increase so high that the profit would be the same that it was at 2xx, otherwise the value do not need to double

The price will increase heavily with at least an increase of $100. That's because of a supply reduction and mining fees allowing the price to surge.

Of course there may be support lost through this process, however the price will balance itself out inviting more people than ever to use the currency. Strong suggest everyone buy before that halving date.

There will be no supply reduction. The supply continually increases. It will be higher after the halving than before. It is higher now than it was before the previous halving. The most you can say is that the increasing supply will not be able to keep up with increasing demand after the halving, but only if you can predict future demand.

Mining fees have no effect on the supply or demand for bitcoins.

i believe the halving will mainly affect the miners...
what will be the miner fees effect for only 12.5 BTC per block?

Many miners have already more fees than income now...what will be the situatin after halving?

halving is overhyped in this forum, and many will get disappointed to see that without support of some fundamental developments we won't go far. Not even beyond $500-600. If halving is the only hope for the growth in 2016, then we will see something similar to the last November pump that will end up after 2-3 weeks, not even half-way with the expectations of the most posters in this section.

I expect a big pump in the price to a new ath. But it will fall in a short time to sub 1000$ and stay there at leas one year more.

Based on halving only? Have a look on the all-time charts how far from the ath we are now, and how much did we grow due to the last halving. No, halving alone won't get us beyond $600. We need some more fundamental news to form the hype. Otherwise there will be big disappointment.

i can't see a new ath happens just because of the block halving, but maybe we can come close to $1000 when people start to panic buy like there is no tomorrow. block halving plus reaching an agreement about the block size increase will give the price even a stronger boost.

I see bad bad times for miners...

that is what I meant with something extra on the fundamental side to support the buying pressure. Otherwise, there is no way we can go beyond $600 based on halving exclusively. Let alone $1k or ath. No way.

if they are selling their coins, then i guess this deceases the demand and that the price will also go down. thats a basic eco law.
so how exactly halving can help the price to rise?

I think as soon as the block reward gets slashed that the price will start flying. The miners will buy all the coins below the mining cost.
Price will rise,.

in my opinion, it doesn't matter that block reward is less or the supply is gonna be less,.... the only important thing about the upcoming halving is that majority of bitcoiners are speculating a price rise. this alone would cause an increased demand which will automatically push the price up on its own.

Majority in this forum, to be fully correct. The point is however, that most of the big whales are in China, and most probably they stand behind all of the recent price action. Whether they have the pump in the cards before the halving, it is another story.

The halving is just to reduce the supply. Will that effect increase the demand of bitcoin? I doubt that.

Same demand but lesser supply will increase the price, but the question is up to what extent will majority hold their coins until they sell to earn their profits.

If the halving is happened the price will be affected of course, you never know how.
I think it will rise to a high amount after the halving but only for a day or so.

After it will lower a bit to a lower amount but more stable than now.

The halving does not reduce the supply. The supply is always increasing. The supply is higher now than before the last halving, and the supply will be higher after the next halving than it is now.

You people have to learn how to use the search function. There are more than ten duplicates of this thread.

The price would rise, the miners would start pumping their saved up bitcoin so the double, so the 12.5 BTC is worth what 25 BTC used to be.

I think the price will rise to a higher level by the halving.
We just need to wait till its so far in my opinion the bitcoin is not to predict, so just wait for it.

What exactly do you mean by "pumping their saved up bitcoin"?

Also, miners are a small part of the market, and after the halving their part will be even smaller.

The halving will affect all of us but the miners will be the ones that will be affected the most. In my opinion the price will rise.

the halving event will surely impact the price in some way though its hard to predict if the effect will be positive or negative, i think that it should be positive as more people will get interested during that

i think that the price will grow really fast in no time

For me i dont really know what is the effect of the halving and how affects the value of the bitcoins. But i think if the halving happens the price will rise and the difficulty for the miners will decrease..

If the demand rises during April to July, we can expect a rise in the price. However, transactions may probably take more time to confirm if we don't reward the miners and blockchain may most probably increase their fee as well.

Well last time nothing happened with the price. But yes if the demand starts increasing we can see a nice up movement.
Although i am quite pessimistic at this moment.

Right now we are in a completely different time period. The upcomming block halving will make a lot people panic buy as they are hoping to sell at high levels. Greed will be a major part of the block halving rally with so much investors looking for the jackpot.

It will have to go up somewhat to cover mining costs... the amount and if that is already factored into todays price is another story.

it depend, i can argue, that they are holding a considerable amount of bitcoin, and they can control any exchange easily, especially chinese miners

so no, i believe they make up for quite a threat in the market scene

None can know what after halving will exactly happen.
Profit with mining will be very harder than now.

It will be very good for the value of the bitcoin itself, the bitcoin has a great future a head with the halving coming. The halving will let increase the bitcoin market price, you just need some time and wait on the right moment to sell your coins.

Yes it will, I think the price of the bitcoin will rise to a high amount.
But its not to predict so its pretty difficult to say of course.

I would agree with you my pal. Price will be double in the rate according to current price. I think approximately I will cross more than 800$.
So halving is good thing for all bitcoin user and including miners as well.

I see closer to $600
of course it is a median value...with picks and holes...

it is good for the miners only if the high price like $800 that you suggest can stick around and not just be a temporary rise with a following free fall to low levels.

Halving would reduce the miners fee to about 50% and this would make the price rise constantly. When halving happened in 2012, the price only increased and now also we can expect the same when the miners would get a reward of 12.5 from 25 BTC as the demand for bitcoins will increase.

Yes. If there is no block size increase, the miners cannot get more transaction fees and they will lose about 50% of the income.

Normally the price would double if miners mine at break-even point.
But these days we see the opposite. The current price is good for miners which means the price can grow, it's not needed.

I do not think the will disappointed the market is pretty good.
When the halving is done the price will increase a to a high amount.

I think the price will increase with high numbers when the halving has been done.
Its pretty difficult to say whats gonna happen but I think it will happen at the end.

everything is possible, but if we look back at history, he will probably rise in price..

we don't really know how halving affects, but as we can see the bitcoins progress, it goes down a little and go up, but  if you look at the total progress, you can see that it is  drawing a line going up little by little and spike up in halving.. :) But who knows..

miner will get lower bitcoin, then miner will think to buying more bitcoin then mine without reach ROI ::)
also miner will hold his bitcoin to reach ROI  ;)

Miners will not buy  more. They are the net seller. They have to cover their cost by selling.

Miners are indeed sellers. I am fairly sure that they have been saving up their coins to sell once the price reaches a decent price level just before or after the block halving. I think they will be one of the parties driving the price down significantly.

Yes i think like you too. I think, that mining is going to be unprofitable for the majority of miners that have a private mine and even some businesses. So i think this loose of investors is going to decrease the price a bit where it will hover for auite some time until the next pump. Then it may hover a bit higher than before.

Mining hardware will be offered for a low price...

I lose with my U2...
because I mine only 300 satoshi or so per day.
if after halving I mine only 200 satoshi or so per day...no problem for me.
BUT:
the ones who mine 3BTC per day with let's suppose 2.5BTC fees...
if after halving they only mine 2 BTC and have same fees...it will not be the same story for them.

The halving will reduce the fresh supply of bitcoin from 3600 to 1800 per day. So the price will rise.

yes. The miners will save some of their coins. They could believe that the bitcoin price will rise in the future.

Assuming that demand continues to rise faster than the supply.

yeah but not for the reason you're believing in this post

the price will rise because of the hype and manipulation

The price will jump if I'm right about the halving, I think the halving will let the price increase with a huge jump after this jump its gonna lower a bit and than be stable for a couple months.
Its a prediction so do not blame me if this is not gonna happen but this are my thoughts about it.

Perhaps you could explain what your prediction is based on. In the recent Litecoin halving, the price rose dramatically before the halving and then plummeted immediately after the halving. In the previous Bitcoin halving, the price rose steadily before the halving but then flattened out after the halving.

why not see the situation so:
it is just a base to talk about.
the more bitcoins are created the less bitcoins are worth.

if 1000 BTC per block would be created then the price would decrease...
If only 12.5 BTC per block are created...then "perhaps" the price would decrease less...but would decrease...

So why could the price halving after halving not decrease but deacrease less...
it is not because after the first halving the price has increased that it will be so for ever after each halving.

We are all only in the optic where the bitcoin price go up go up go up...
But this is not a certitude...why should it be so?

I also see this not happening at all but we will see it after the halving has been really done, you never know what will happen with the bitcoin of course.
We will see it after the halving and I think the halving will affect the value for sure but also affect the community I think the community will get bigger because of it, everyone want to make some profit right ?

I think the value would be go much higher before the halving and would remain stable after halving for a certain period of time, but after halving the price would be relatively go lower thats a feeling I have.

No I think this is not gonna happen I think the bitcoin will be stable after the halving has been done, its of course difficult to say because you do not know what the market is gonna do these days or in  about a half year.
Maybe the halving will let the bitcoin collapse its really possible.

People are constantly buying though so the demands still is increasing when halving is going. Exchange sites are selling them for more than its real value and so price could go up. but who knows.  ;D

i think as most of us are already expecting bitcoin price will go up but how much is not clear to me right now but i think if it is anything like the last bubble this time it would be twice as big because there is more users using bitcoin.

i expect halving to push the price up whether by a small amount like from $420 to $500 or it might even be the spark to a big bubble which will push the price from $420 to >$1000

one thing is for sure and that is the rise, the unclear part is the magnitude of the rise.

that's why people should lower their expectations for upcomming block halving. too many people think it will go over $1000 and some people are even talking about $2000 which at this point is not that realistic. that's why my price target just before or just after the block halving is around $700 and $800 at most. if you don't have high expectations, and the price doesn't go up as much as you were hoping for, then you won't get disappointed.

talking about does cost nothing...
here many people talk just about and do understand nothing about.

I have I believed even read on this forum $5000

Halving itself does affect nothing...only traders do affect the price.

I think you don't know the effect of halving. For me as my understanding about halving the block rewards will be half.
Example if the block rewards is 25 btc per block mined after halving the reward will be 12.5
so that the price value of bitcoin after having will be double so i think the price will rise $700-$800 that's my speculation after halving ends...
Basic understanding Halving means half so less supply of bitcoin from miner it will result to increase value of bitcoin..

of course talking and speculating without actually investing in bitcoin doesn't cost people anything. but when things don't go as they were hoping for they blame bitcoin for everything they think went wrong. that's what newbies and rookies always do.

Well people are speculation for a price increase, but this is based on 0 evidence.
The last halvings nothing specular happened. And if you look to the next generation miners. The current price of 400 dollars is high enough to mine.

Like most people I share an opinion that halving will couse to BTC price go up,but to what extent will it be really is hard to say.But it is very likely that we can see an increase of 100% or more, and it would be very nice to achieve four-digit number :)

Graphicly the price should go up.
he should go up because people believe that it should go up...
but this mind can change quickly.

Normally the price will increase since miners get less rewards but right now the price is actually quite high.
I don't think the price needs some adjustments for miners to make it more profitable.

Can someone calculate the average price during the original block reward period and the average price during the current block reward time period, I suspect a huge difference.

I don't think it has to repeat itself ? what has happened is not necessary and it was the first time when something like that was created,hence there wouldn't be such affects again.

Yes it has to, unless it is profitable people wont mine.

again the coparison is meaningless, because back then was very different few miners, not even asic, and not chinese party

also the block reward was higher and thus was guaranteed a huge margin on profit

There are too many miners now and too many big farms. It is difficult for home miners to survive now.

well home miners can switch to altcoin, there is the casual mining scene

home mining was never meant to be very long with bitcoin, after the first halving was already half dead anyway

There were always "too many" miners - that's how difficulty works. This is how difficulty changed over Bitcoin's lifetime. (http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-ever.png) The "drops" are because miners stopped mining (it was taking longer than 10 minutes for each block to be found). The drops in difficulty in mid-2011, that was because miners were stopping mining - because they were finding mining unprofitable. Small miners, still using GPUs, were competing with "farms" of rack-mounted boxes containing multiple GPUs. It was difficult for home miners to survive then. CPU miners had already been through the "there are too many GPU miners" stage; solo miners were starting to realise that pool mining was the future. Miners were starting to talk about FPGAs and ASICs.

@amph, the block reward was higher, but it was also worth considerably less than it is now. Back then $50 was a good price - a 50 BTC block reward was worth £2500 (50 x 50). Now $450 is an OK price, and a 25 BTC block reward is worth $11250. Then and now, there were/are miners operating at the margin, miners who did/will drop out at the next difficulty increase because they were/are barely profitable. Difficulty has always worked to make sure that mining is driven by efficiency - that less efficient miners are less profitable or unprofitable. There's no guarantee of huge profits, except through being more efficient than your competitors.

Indeed, the halving will affect the value by its price, the price will go to a high amount this year that is one thing that is sure but it will take some time of course.

The halving can of course also be a downside for the price because there will be a lot of sellers but no buyers.

The value will be affected for sure by the bitcoin, I think there will come a high price increase.

The first reason is of course by the block size that is coming.
The second reason is because of the point people are believing again in the bitcoin.
The third reason is the bitcoin growing everyday as you can also see on this forum.

The bitcoin has a very good future and the halving will let the amount go to a high amount.

I think that the value will rise if that is going to happen in the future. But yeah you never know what can happen later in the future. Its hard to predict.
I hope that it will be ofcourse more worth. You can now see that the price is rising slowly.

the diff was also much lower than what it is now, i cna argue that it was more profitable to mine bitcoin back then, not to mention that it is always better to have more coins per day at a lower price than the opposite

this because you can speculate more in the future, like it actually happened, those mienrs are now rich if they did not screwed their earning back then...

Difficulty was significantly lower than it is now, sure. That doesn't mean mining was more profitable, it means that profitable miners then were more profitable than profitable miners now (for some miners, then and now, mining is not profitable). Mining has always been unprofitable for some miners - that's the engine that drives difficulty changes, and ultimately efficiency.

it was more easy to speculate back then, in the sense that since the value was really low an icrease in value was more expected with a far greater factor than what we have nowadays(we still need to match the x25-30 increase that appeared in 2011-2012, for example...)

like i said it far better to have 100 coins a day at $1 each than 0.1 a day at $1k each...

Maybe. I do remember the excitement when we hit $1 and $10, but equally I can remember sitting around $10 for what seemed like an eternity, wondering if we'd ever see $20 again... I think the Golden Age of speculation was the year after the first halving, when we saw two new ATHs. Before that we'd had some initial price discovery (2010-2011) and then a long time sitting around $10 (2011-2012).

I have to admit I'm not sold on the 100 @ $1 vs 0.1 @ $1k argument. Take a hypothetical marginal miner making BTC worth $100 and with current costs of 99%, looking at $1 profit (in BTC), but with an expectation that the price of BTC will change (rise). I think in general there's an expectation that price's rate of change increases, but even without that assumption a miner (in the past and at present) has no certainty over the future. A miner who profited with $1 worth of BTC in March 2011 (when $1 = 1 BTC) and then sold two months later would have done worse than a miner who profited with $1 worth of BTC in December 2013 (when $1000 = 1 BTC) and then sold months later! (Sorry, that's a fairly contrived example, but I'm sure you get the point). Price decreases come in similar sizes to price increases, then and now.

maybe i'm a bit too much into altcoin, were my example fit greatly(the 100 vs 0.1 comparison) i can understand that for a strong coin like bitcoin, this may be different, because it should in theory increase in the future, like it did in the past

but with all the doubts for the future, i'm still on the fence for this, while still being optimistic for the time being

To be honest, that's kinda my position - I'm wary of the moon-talk, while being quietly bullish for the long-term.

Anyway, thanks for a good discussion - lots for me to think about! (I have zero experience with alts, by the way, and no recent experience with mining - I stopped mining when mining gear changed from "something I could recycle to play games" to "specialised hardware only useful for mining", and a lot has changed since then).

Optimization always win

yeah it will go up, just don't believe people that says that price will go to 1500$ or even 2000$, that is bull*hit, in best case, price after halving will go up by 200$ but not more, also it should create panic, so price might fall a bit day after halving, but will rise later

I'm just wondering that if halving is supposed to make the price go up wouldn't people have already pushed the price up?

This is just bad scenario :
if block halving done, miner will stop his hardware and try mining other altcoin like Etherum, so bitcoin network will be decrease around 10-20% , price still low (arround $400) , then other altcoin lead cryptocoin marketcap..?

 :-\

because bitcoin coverage will decrease and will certainly affect the strength of the market. the less supply more expensive as well a bitcoin.

It may affect the price drastically as miners will have to spend a lot of hashing power because the difficulty is higher.
And the bitcoin distribution will be less and less and the time goes by.

We've seen what the halving did with Litecoin. It got a big ass pump, then settled at roughly 2X the value before the pump. With BTC it is going to be the same.

Let's be a little more accurate. What really happened was that before the halving there was a huge run-up from $1.40 to $7, followed by a crash to $3. After the halving, the price has changed very little, so it is hard to claim that the halving caused the increase directly. Plus, it must be noted that all crypto-currencies behaved similarly during that time period. Do you also claim that Litecoin's halving caused the rise in the price of BTC from $230 to $300?

I think it was actually the hype about the halving, along with some other factors, that caused the pre-halving bubble. I believe that the same thing will happen with bitcoin. The Bitcoin halving hype will cause a pre-halving bubble, and the halving itself will have no effect.

probably there is gonna be a bump for that matter, but bitcoins for now? Imo then sell it fast when bumped for halve as soon as it soars.
china wants you more bitcoins (their economic system is not that stable, bitcoin is their goodie), they can probably give you more money if you win them, AFAIK.

Indeed, the facts are here for sure, but the problem is that its now to early to say this, it can happen for sure.
The point is also that a lot of people will sell the bitcoin but I even think there will be more sellers than buyers..

The halving could double the bitcoin price. But it also depends on the general adoptioin of the coin.

It could as well triple it...
No seriousely...it will not affect much the BTC price.

The coming halving really wont affected the price that high maybe just an additional 100$,in order for the price to be high we need more users for bitcoin.

How many users do we have now (and how are you measuring the number of users)?

Yeah some might be disappointed with the price that will come by that time but for sure there will be a pump we just dont know how many.

most probably the price of the bitcoin will not be too different even though it will rise a little bit i doubt it will double

im holding my bitcoins right now as i believe that the price will grow though only time can show it right now

Answer 2 questions:
 1) how much costs to mine 1 bitcoin ?
 2) how much will cost to mine 1 bitcoin after halving ?

We can only answer the 2and question is when we know the difficulty to mine 1 BTC.
Then it will depend on the BTC price after halving.

Your answer varies on the budget, ultimately you need minimum of like 5 THS just to even produce .1btc I think.

I forget, but it was just a absurd # higher then that if thats not it.

It is a big change to the bitcoin economy, or ecosystem. The supply will decrease, and miners will Stuart to leave. This will cause higher TX fees, and people also leaving bitcoin.

People wont leave bitcoin just by that,people are still going to use bitcoin because after the halving the price will surely change.

It is pretty simple to know what will happen, price will rise, just i am afraid that after halving everone will sell their bitcoins so price might fall down, but it still will be higher than before halving

When all the people start to all their bitcoin at once or even in 1 day the price of bitcoin will drop more than it rise.

I hope that wont happen the sudden boost of seller of bitcoin in just 1 day that will really cripple bitcoin and maybe a bad thing.

Halving might rise price just before the halving, and then a little after the halving. Just after halving it is likely that many will sell due to increase in price and panic.

But it can happen the other way around, who knows lol.

The panic of user will brings the price down again so i think its better to sell just a little and slowly so we wont end up in 400 again.

i doubt, until know after a great pump and then a dump the bottom was higher each time and that's is the real increase, it was higher after the first big bubble in 2011 when it went to 25x

and it was higher after the last ath of 1200, it will be the same thing this time, it wil be higher and probably higher than 1k if we can reach crazy value like 2k and above

the users will continue expecting a rise, there is not going to be any panic. just the expected time will shift even if the price doesn't change.

One has not to put in the same basket the halving effect and the effect expected by the traders...
if BTC goes up it is not the halving effect but the trade effect...
and trade effect can as well drive down the btc price.

We wont know if there will be a panic selling or not since everyone expect that the price will go up after the halving.

it will surely push the price up, im holding my bitcoins because of that, i believe in bitcoin and i believe that its price is going to rise a lot in the future

halving is just one of many reasons why the price should go up and on this event it will surely be pumped up by people

Yeah halving is really the part of the reason why bitcoin price increase like the last halving did,but it will take some time for it to rise as mindful players of bitcoin will manipulate so some will sell it low.

Halving makes the price of bitcoin to get doubled. In the past time halving the price grew high. This time how things gonna occur can't be predicted.

The halving will make the price go higher. But the effect is less than the previous halvings. This time, it is from 25 to 12.5.

People believe that the halving will cause the price to double because they mistakenly believe that the supply of bitcoins is halved. The supply is not halved. Bitcoins are not consumed. There will be more bitcoins after the halving than before the halving.

After the previous halving, the price was relatively stable for a couple months up to the Cyprus bubble. The price of a Litecoin actually fell dramatically both before and after its halving last year, and it has been very stable since then.

It will really make the price higher because there will be much less coins to be mine and the difficulty is much higher after the halving.

it should be the opposite, this time the effect will be greater, because from 50 to 25 coin per block, miner have still plenty of profit, but from 25 to 12.5 their margin will be greatly reduced

That is really hard to say because Bitcoin is a currency and you never know what will happen with the value and that is risky.
I even dont think that it will jump or rise that much after the halving, because you also can now see that the value is not even rising that fast.
There will be many people that will get disappointed in Bitcoin I think.

And with that the price of bitcoin will surely rise as it will be hard to mine bitcoin and their expenses will be much more higher than usual.

The halving will affect the price of bitcoin but not to high maybe around 30-50 dollars,when the demand is high the price might jump more.

well it has some effect on traders too, because there will be less dumping from miners

i still can't find anything about how much that less dumping, will indirectly increase the demand

The value of bitcoin should get a little boost up after halving. This is probably the last chance of at least this year for a good increase in value. Otherwise I don't see any reason for the increase in bitcoin's value.

The increase that bitcoin will be having is connected to the halving well if there is a sudden boost on bitcoin price well is the fault of supply and demand.

yes we should see many boost...but the boost will not hold long.

There is two possibilities or we will see price doubling and hasrate rise.
But i think we can see price staying around 400- 500$ and after halving, and hash rate dropping.
Because we need 2 times more money invested already for price increasing.

It will take all the intrepid investors who are hodling private 1MB token keys to... the... moon, of course.

 8)

500-600 is better after the halving,if they construct a new miner then the has rate will also rise but it will cost more for the miner which will lead to the rise of price.

It will affect the value of bitcoin greatly because of the rewards that is going to be given is going to be shorter from 25 to 12.5.

A lot of theories and speculation on how btc price will react after halving which makes it interesting to see which of this holds true. IMO, we won't be seeing a huge price increase. Something like around $500 to $550 is the most realistic price. It's also interesting to see how will miners react if mining btc won't be profitable for them after halving, will they move to altcoins?

Most likely it will let the price rise to a higher amount and it will be a positive for the most people that are just investing in the bitcoin itself if you ask me right ?
For miners it would be less more positive because its getting more difficult to gain bitcoins by mining, overall the value will rise to a higher amount.

Yes this is true with the halving that is coming in a few months bitcoin price will raise a notch and everyone will be happy i think about that increase in value.

i think the crash is highly unlikely because nobody wants that and the whaled (miners included) will not allow their investment go to waste. also there is a lot of usage for bitcoin and that creates an increasing amount of demand everyday which will prevent the crash.

the only thing remaining the a rise.

Bitcoin will become less common increasing its value. could be anything from 600$ to 10,000$

i prefer 600$ thats the closest price that bitcoin can get this halving there is not much happening or reason to hit 10k this halving.

The halving will let the price rise without even a doubt if I'm honest because there is such a high chance it will let the price rise to a high amount this year, all the signs are there for it.
Another thing that will let the halving happen is growing the bitcoin itself.

You never will know what the value will be after the halving of Bitcoin and that can be really bad, because some people think of course that it will rise after that.
But I dont think that it will happen on this time, and many people are also thinking that it will not rise that much after the halving so I think there will be many people that will be disappointed.

halving will affect all of us but the miners will be the ones that will be affected. i think that it should be positive as more people will get interested during that

Up to my knowledge, the difficulty has nothing to do with all halving. Back from off topic, the halving will reduce the supply of bitcoin to half of what we are getting right now. So as per basic economical rule when supply reduces, price will increase.

hmm... I don't think so. when demands increases, price will increase. reduced supply won't do a thing if there are no one willing to buy bitcoin.

If the price is so high that no one can afford it even if they reduce the supply that would only kill the coin.

How high would price (BTC/USD, for example) have to go before "no one can afford it"?

i think you are wrong if the price of bitcoin not rise after halving of course all mminer will shut down they hardware miner and bitcoin die.

I think they're wrong too, but I think the idea of "all miners" shutting down is "wronger". Miners will do what they've always done - some/many/all of the marginal, unprofitable miners will stop mining, the rest will continue (either because they remain profitable, or because they anticipate returning to profitability after difficulty drops). Within 2016 blocks difficulty will drop. New miners will consider whether to start mining. And so it goes.

The halving will affect the value of bitcoin in gaining some percent to raise it price,it will make the value of bitcoin much higher than todays price.

Halving will reduce the supply of the bitcoins. If the demand is the same, the price will rise, maybe even double.

no this is false, ti will not reduce the supply, it will reduce only the pressure from miners, done to the market, so less dumping yes

but it yet to be seen how this is signifcant in terms of a dumping, because i'm not convinced that even now, they are dumping 50% of their coins

Yes the price of bitcoin will be high when the halving is over and we will see a new stable price months after the halving ends.

soon as the block reward gets slashed that the price will start flying. The miners will buy all the coins below the mining cost.

Yes the price will be up when the reward for mining bitcoin is been reduce to half,i just hope that it will be a significant rise in the value.

The halving will not reduce the supply. The supply today is greater than the supply before the previous halving. The supply after the next halving will be greater than the supply today. The supply is always increasing because bitcoins are not consumed.

If the demand remains the same, the price will fall because the supply is always increasing. In order for the price to rise, the demand must rise faster than the supply.

Other than these economic thumb rules, Halving is going to be a very good promotion to all the people around the world to get their attention towards bitcoin ecosystem. Hopefully this will bring new investments into bitcoin system to get more value appreciation.

i doubt that the price can actually double just because of the halving but it will surely grow at least a hundred dollars

i hope that we will not see any drops because the price of the bitcoin needs to be high in order to attract more people

That is nice analysis. Yes halving will act as free advertisement for bitcoin. Because halving will be celebrated as a big occasion in bitcoin ecosystem. This will definitely attract more media coverage.

Indeed, most likely it will attract the media because of the price its also gonna reach, right now already a lot of people are talking about it.
I think in about a month there will already be many articles by the media most likely, I think the halving will be very positive for us all, it will create a boost to the bitcoin.

I think it is other way around. When more people come to use bitcoin, the bitcoin price will go higher.

it works both ways.

the more people using bitcoin means more demand and price will rise because of this.

also when the price goes up (like last time going to >$1100) it will attract a lot of attention that causes a lot more people buying bitcoin and then the last step happens like a cycle.

Cyclic process might continue but its hardly difficult to get increase on every halving. Last time the halving gave a great increase in price, so this time the same can't be expected. Based on the situation things will get changed.

The situation really change from the last halving because we have so many user now unlike past few years ago where only few have bitcoins.

It will cause a big crash, not because of drop of mining reward though. Simply because everyone is holding waiting for the halving. They'll all sell at the exact same time!!!

Why exact at the same time?
could you explain why?

Imagine people holding 10 000 btc. They're all waiting for halving because they think it'll rise. They'll all want to sell at the same moment, just after the halving. If people holding 10 000 btc want all to sell at the same moment, price will fall. Simple supply/demand logic.

This darn halving coming couple months too early.
Hope it follows by a dump so we can all get cheap btc, i miss 200ish.

it is right what you say...but it is just "imagination".

The halving will have affect on the halving with the price increase, the bitcoin will rise in his price without any doubts.
The halving is so strong, and the fact is also that a lot of people are investing these days so that is also a good sign.
Overall I think the halving will let the price increase with some little numbers.

why is always writen so "uᴉoɔʇᴉq" for bitcoin?

I think we understand the supply/demand part. It's the wanting to sell at the same time part that's mystifying me, at least - I understand the "how" (economics 101), I don't understand the "why". Why would large holders simultaneously decide to stop being large holders?

Honestly, I can see noobs with a few BTC reaching panic levels when price doesn't do what they expect, but someone who's taken the time and money to invest in 10k BTC, just dumping 10k BTC in one go? It'd be a stretch to believe that one large holder would do this - that many would, at the same time, baffles me.

The bitcoin will let the price rise to a higher amount this year, because of the halving, the halving will also makes it more difficult to mine.
But the plus point from that is that the price is gonna rise to a higher amount sooner or later because of it.

200 is dangerous now for miners, it can be unprofitable, since the diff skyrocket 2x already, compared to the last time

so no we aren't returning to 200 ever unless you want an insecure network

200 is really not profitable to the miners as well as for the traders of bitcoin,but we wont be going back there because everyone wants a higher price more than 500.

$200 is completely impossible unless someone presses a wrong button and decides to just ruin this crypto...
Bitcoins are not going anywhere near that range, possibly it can reach just $350, that too if there are too many miners who will get out of this, else if things get serious and these coins get into stronger hands, don't expect to see it below $600 at any cost...

The price is with a tight range. I think somebody is accumulating the coins. If the price is too high, they will push it down.

200 is really out the the league,bitcoin price might be down at 370 only and will increase gradually then hit at 500-600 after 3 months of the halving event.

The value of bitcoin will not be affected much by the halving because it will just reduce the reward given to miners the main thing that can affect its price is the adoption and more users for bitcoin.

well, plenty of people expect the price to go up significantly due to the upcoming block halving, which might push the price higher before the halving. but they mostly plan to sell it directly after the halving to secure profits. which basically means that after the block halving the price will see some heavy dumpings.

Yeah,we will see a huge dump in bitcoin after the halving and this will really affect the price and we might go down to 400 again.

This is what im afraid of the huge dump that will happen after we reach a certain amount in the price,i just hope that the price will stay in 600.

How will halving affect the value?

Pre-halving effect - speculations of expected price might be seen as halving approaches therefore many will do some pumping scenes that will increase the price.

Post-halving effect - the testing one. many are likely magnet when the price dips even at the margin of $20 up. expected dumping scenes may be present at this time. in this case price will dip. up to the resistance on every level if it can bring up the momentum.

Bottom line : Take advantage of that scene.

There will be a huge sell off, but that means to buy back when its lower.

So like after the actual halving takes place, within the price slowly dies back down is usually a good time to buy.

Some will really lost big time if they are not aware of what is happening because the whales will manipulate the price after the halving.

Bitcoin value will be affected by halving because there will lesser reward to mine bitcoin and its price will be high also after the halving.

Yeah,the lesser the reward means its price will go up high too,and when the price is high everyone will be selling their coins.

My expectation is something similar to the Litecoin halving last year.

The hype will cause a bubble that pops sometime around the halving, and the halving itself will have no effect on the price.

Because of all the "death spiral" FUD, the bubble will be small, though.

this does not matter much, what is matter is the new bottom that will be established after the dump that will follow the bubble, this is the real new value, and i doubt it will be once again 4xx

Halving would affect the increase in price, the reason for this is just based upon the mass adoption. Only increase in users will make price grow.

Eventually, the general adoption of the bitcoin will increase its price. Halving effect will be less in the future.

Mass adoption can make the bitcoin useful so it is more valuable. I use bitcoin to buy things, so I increase its value.

yeah quite agree, halving is not going to give a big affect when people just holdin their btc right now and selling on halving,or the price could just falling due to mass selling when halving was realized

The halving is just a catalyst for the bitcoin price rise. If there is no demand for the coin, the price will not rise.

Demand is the key to the rise of the bitcoin price. The mass adoption will increase the demand of the coin.

most of us are already expecting bitcoin price will go up but how much is not clear to me right now but i think if it is anything like the last bubble this time it would be twice as big

The price right now will be double and twice as big as it is right now when the halving is over like in the past halving where the price suddenly rose up.

The market cap now is much larger than that in early 2013, when the price was just about $100. So the price rise will be slow.

Well, it is too easy to assume that when the new coin creation drops by half that the price will double. You forgot that there is already a created amount of 15 million. The halving is already priced in in this amount. You could only expect an increasing price for the newly created coins. For that reason, I think we will see a constant but slow price increase.

Yeah right during halving we can expect the value twice as that of now or even high, halving won't affect the value but gives unexpected profits to its users.

The halving will affect the halving on a good and positive way in my eyes, it will let the price rise to a high amount.
Maybe it will even let the price rise to a record height, that would be pretty sweet if you ask me because than we would make a lot of profit.

No one is sure about the impact bitcoin gonna get at halving. In accordance to last time halving every user were expecting for a increase in price to the peak. Lets wait and hope for the best.

Like most people I share an opinion that halving will couse to BTC price go up,but to what extent will it be really is hard to say.

Everything is possible, but if we look back at history, he will probably rise in price. Halving will reduce the fresh supply of bitcoin

The theoretical "value" of BTC post-halving is double what it is right now so around $860. That's the VALUE and PRICE may and probably will be different, because 1) the market is not fully efficient and 2) the halving has already probably been taken into account with our "doubling" pump from $220 -> $440. This is assuming demand for BTC remains the same.

What will probably happen at the halving is whales will SELL the news against noobs who are just discovering about the halving and going fomo. Then over time it will pick up again.

The history you are referring to is exactly what year? lol.

Theres too many events to go over with bitcoin.. if you are referring to the 1st exchange prices, that doesnt really count. Since the 1st exchange acted more of a ponzi that blew up the value.

Price will increase. Course there may be support lost through this process, however the price will balance itself out inviting more people than ever to use the currency.

The halving will affect the bitcoin on a positive way, I'm very sure of that, its just a matter of time we also see what it will bring of course.
Most likely it will be good for the investors and for the miners less more good because mining is gonna take a lot more time.

Yes the halving will be very positive, I also think miners will be very disappointed with the halving and I also recommend them to already hold some bitcoins for the future(halving) that is coming.
Overall I think everyone could make profit because of the halving, but this is not to predict.

Yeah everyone expecting for a growth or increase in price which is termed as positive. Bitcoin nature is different when compared with other currencies. Anything might take place. Lets expect for the best of peak rise in price.

the amount of bitcoin is limited. So if it is used widely and become valuable, the price will rise gradually.

The halving will affect the value on a good way most likely it will let the price rise to a high amount for sure if everything will go well and nothing will happen before or after it.
The only downside from the halving is that miners will be busy for a longer time to gain bitcoins.

I think the halving will be very good for us all and that it will let us make profit for sure, without any doubts.
There is just such a good chance that the bitcoin is going to a high amount.

I think you might be wrong. The halving price is already in the current price, so it may become that the price will not change at all.
just like we saw the last halving.

I'm puzzled by all this talk about "the halving price". The halving itself has no effect on the price other than reducing the downward pressure of an ever-increasing supply.

Historically, halving has no visible impact on the price just like what happened on November 2012 when miner's reward was halved by 50%. But bitcoin was not as popular as it is today. If it stays as popular as it is after the halving, the law of supply and demand dictates that bitcoin's price should rise until it finds an equilibrium.

I think the big price rise happened 3 months after the halving, due to the financial crisis in Cyprus. But the price dropped from $266 soon.

well first you need to know what halving will do, halving will halve block reward for all miners so this means that price of bitcoin will have to rise or mining will be unprofitable

so halving will make price of bitcoin to rise, and many people predicts that price will be 1200$, while i think that it will be around 1000$, but either way, that's very good news

The value will be affected with some big numbers in my eyes, I do not think that it will go down.
I think it only will go up because of the incoming halving this year.

 Or  miners will turn off unprofitable equipment when the price does not rise.

sure and the network will be insecure, if you're going to portrait this reality for each halving, we all know that bitcoin is doomed, by your logic, so you should sell now everything and forget

instead you are still here playing with bitcoin, you know that there is a higher chance for the price to increase that's why you are here

It is a big leap to go from the price remaining unchanged to the death of Bitcoin, but yes that could be its fate. Either way, it is irrational to expect the price to rise simply because not doing so might be bad for Bitcoin.

As for why I am here: I believe that Bitcoin could revolutionize the world and I want to contribute to that revolution. And while I do own some bitcoins, I would be happy to see their value drop as a result of worldwide adoption (which is a real possibility). I believe that the most likely outcome is a higher value in 10 years, but I still give Bitcoin a 30% chance of failure.

Everyone is hoping that the value will be more worth and that is quite bad now because the value is now not even rising and that is bad for the people who already have Bitcoin.
The most are hoping that the value will rise soon so they can sell it with a lot of profit but that is not possible now.

It's not that bad after all. This is a good chance to make some other accumulation.

We don't know if we will still see such price like this when the "speculation of price rise" happens after that "big scene" months from now.

Nobody will know what the halving will be and that is the problem because there are also a lot of people that hopes that they can earn a lot if profit with it in this year.
But sadly it would be not possible for them because the value is not even rising so that is already quite bad for all of us.

I believe that the halving will bring the price down so the price is going to become cheaper. This is a good thing for people who do not have much money to spend but still want to invest in to Bitcoins.

The halving will let the price rise for sure, I think it will rise to a high amount for sure because of the halving that is coming.
Also if we have to believe some speculators this will also happen.

perhaps the rise is already behind us...
do you believe really that traders have wited the rise you talk about to buy?
No...they have already bought and now little by little sell you the bitcoins...and at the end...you have "rised" btc in your wallet...and if you need fiat you have to resell with lost.
Be carefull...

i believe that halving brings only benefits to its users, i hope that during halving the price will increase upto $800 and even more by this year end giving good profits to its users.

Halving will promisingly give a good increase in price. No assurance whether the price will be very high, but every user gets a better earning after the days of halving.

The price after halving could double from the current range. But it could also be the effect of block size increase.

Nobody will know what the value will be and that is the problem but you never know what will happen with Bitcoin but we all want to make some profit of course.
And that will maybe not even possible because many people are also saying that the value will be not event that high.

look at price now, it is 450$ already because of halving, people buy lots of bitcoins now to sell them for more after halving so answer is that price will rise

it is hard to predict what price we will see after halving, but i really think that price will be around 750$ or maybe even more, so price will rise and it shouldn't fall

The halving will affect the halving on a good and positive way, it will let the bitcoin grow for sure without any doubts.
Plus I also think the bitcoin will be very profitable because of the halving that is coming!

Everyone is hoping that the value will be more in the halving but we are not for sure that we can make some money with it because it keeps stable for a long time.
But you never know what will happen with the value and that is the problem because many people are also saying that the value will not even rise.

It will really make the price of bitcoins higher because there will be much less coins to be mine and the reward will be half tooo so it will overall get increase in the value after the halving.

for me bitcoin block halving can affect the supply because the reward of every block is half by 2 and i think if the supply is less and more buyer are come the price will increase more.. thats why the price of bitcoin is still increase.. but the value of bitcoin if the difficulty is still high and difficulty will increase more more suply will come and value of bitcoin will be decrease..

Couldn't 'a said it better myself.

If the difficulty is still high, it means people are still interested in protecting the bitcoin network. It is excellent.

If the difficulty is too high...this means that some people are working with lost to "kill" other miners who can not lose...
if mining is lost...how long can miners mine with lost?...it's a battle...

i think it is easy to understand that price will rise, and bitcoin now can rise to new ATH, everybody hopes for that, but personally i think that price will rise up to 1000$ and even then it will be awesome

and halving happens to every crypto currency, and every time price rises, maybe not 2 times more but it still rises, so from this people know that price will rise with bitcoin too

The halving will effect the price on a very good way, it will let the price increase for sure because of it.
Overall I think it will less more good to miners but I'm only a investor so for me its not a issue that mining is gonna be harder.

1) After halving the daily, monthly and yearly supply drops by half. Demand is going up and strong, so price tends to increase.

2) Miners sell only at a higher price to compensate for the reward drop. Price tends to increase.

3) Everyone thinks price will go up, so the price will go up.

4) More future demand since I guess the event would be covered well by media (like when it hit $1k).


We know the halving is going to happen, but I think market would still react (very) because it hasn't happened and is only going to. That said I would expect the price to climb up slowly just before the sharp rise.

The supply does not halve, the production halves. Those are two very different things. The supply increases with every block and it will continue to increase whether the subsidy is 25 btc or 12.5 btc. The price rises when growth in demand increases more than growth in supply.

No. Miners will sell at whatever price they can get. They are such a small part of the market that they have very little influence on prices.


Yes, but the bad news is that you are describing a bubble. Bubbles pop. Any increase in price caused solely by the expectation of an increase will eventually disappear when the bubble pops. Just look at what happened to litecoin.


Maybe. Maybe not. It is hard to predict what will happen to demand.

bubble pop yes, but what it matter, and it was said many times, is the new bottom that you will get after the bubble pop

simple example, last big bubble the 1200 ath, started from 60 and went all the way high to 1200, then the bubble popped, but what we got as a new bottom? 230 not 60 anymore

this is what each bubble will do, establish a new higher bottom... new higher bottom will be 400-800 range, probably still under 1k

Mining will not lost and even after halving there will be someone who will mine bitcoin and the other thing is that already about 75% bitcoins are mined so only need a little struggle to mine the remaining 25% bitcoins.

your answer has not a sense...or I do not understand it...
Mining will make 12.5BTC all 10 minutes...if millions and millions big miners mine...the mining is then "global" lost...I'm sorry...it is so...

I also believe that the price will rise and it will definitely rise as the demand will be increased and it is said that the supply will be reduced so in that situation everyone is sure that the price will boost up.

The supply will not be reduced. The supply increases with every block whether the reward is 25 btc or 12.5 btc.

Halving will make bitcoin value rise to $1000 and more

I think this is not the couses after block having.. and i think it will affect also the supply it will decrease our supply if more people are buying bitcoins.. thats why the price of bitcoin will more valuable.. after block halving..

Well when the time comes we will see the rise , Because when there is smaller block reward the price will surely increase . No one will get disappointed at least we will see 50-100$ rise .


This is not about what everyone thinks . Everyone thinks that bitcoin will hit 2k$ So bitcoin hit 2k$ ? NO.


Mostly the miners sells at high price.

Yes, with the halving the price by sure increases and so the price of bitcoin at this halving will also increase just like in the halving of 2013, and for anything when the supply is reduced the price goes to higher value.

The price did not increase much during the halving in 2013. The big bubble formed in 2013, 10 months after.

The halving will be not that bad of course but also not that best because it was already stable for a long time so the value will also not be that high in the halving.
And that is bad because there are a lot of people that wants to make profit and that is not possible for them they have to wait a longer time.

In the last halving in 2012-2013, the bitcoin price rose over 100 times. This time, it might just rise 10 times.

there was no halving in 2013, it was just a bubble that was driven by heavy speculation due to doge and willibot or whatever

Everyone is hoping that the value is going to rise of the Bitcoin in the halving but the bad thing is that we cant control it so we have just to wait and see for what will happen.
But it was already stable for a long time so there is a high chance that the value can rise soon.

The price is now on its way to hit $500 and it can happen either this month or the next month. If the halving comes in this can change somethings. The price can go down which makes the Bitcoin a bit cheaper.
This is not a bad thing because it allows people to invest more.

That 100 times rise wasn't caused by the halving alone. There was a lot of factors involved in it too. This time the price probably won't even go higher than $1000~ until next year.

Bitcoin will have not that bad halving and that is because the value of Bitcoin was already stable for a long time so it must be more worth soon in the halving.
The bad thing is of course that you cant know that for sure but you need to take the risk that you have to hold it.

The halving can effect then the value of the Bitcoin, I think that if the havling comes that the price is going to be lower. This is a good thing for people who do not have much to invest, this way they can also buy some coins.

the price will go lower after the block halving as people will dump the coins that they bought at current prices. i just hope the price will stabilize above the current price level.

The halving will reduce the fresh supply of the bitcoin, so it will increase the value if the demand is the same.

by halving the bitcoin will be very difficult to obtain except by way of purchase. so the purchase bitcoin will increase rapidly and make bitcoin prices to rise

personally i think that price will rise to 700$ and maybe above, and i am pretty sure that price won't fall down after halving, it might fll down by 10 or 20$ but it will rise then

and other predictors thinks that price will rise to 900$-1100$ and if this will be true, i will be very happy, as 1000$ price for bitcoin will be awesome thing, as more people would use it

Most bitcoins are already obtained by purchase. The effect of reducing the daily increase in the supply by 1800 will not be perceptible.

Well, halving has always had a big impact on the price of bitcoin. I'm pretty sure the effect would be noticeable to say the least.

when you say block halving, generally two things come to mind about it and how it can affect the price.

one of them is the supply and demand rule which says when the block reward turns into half of the current amount it means the amount of supply will be reduced (supply being the amount of bitcoin that is being dumped) so it means the price will rise.

also it means a lot of speculation and hype which means a lot of people will start investing or increase their investment by buying more bitcoin to get prepared for the rise. this means increasing demand which will eventually lead to the rise too.

1% supply and demand
99% speculation

The halvings...(all halvings) effect are in the price since the first day...
The price and the cost is not the same.
A car has a cost and a price.
A hole has a price and a cost...it is not because the cost of a hole is high that the price of this hole will be high...

Ok about the supply and demand...
but the "need" is important as well...if the market does not need bitcoins...the demand will be low...why should the market need more bitcoins after halving?

"Supply and demand" does not refer to your definition of "supply". The "supply" in "supply and demand" is the number of bitcoins available for sale at various prices. "Supply" is not "the amount of bitcoin that is being dumped".

When people refer to the supply of "new" bitcoins, they are really talking about "production". "Supply and demand" is a concept. "Production and demand" is not.


There has been only one bitcoin halving so far, so I don't think you know what you are talking about when you write "halving has always had a big impact". Furthermore, if the you look at the last Bitcoin halving, you will see that nothing happened immediately after the halving. If you look at the last Litecoin halving, you will see that the price fell due to the speculative bubble but has remained fairly flat for nearly a year.

That is right. In terms of monetary supply, this halving just reduce the block size to 12.5 from 25. And there are more existing coins.

The value will increase due to halving, with that happening this year we can see the supply will become fixed due to hardship is mining as the demand steadily increasing then one effect is only price increase of bitcoin.

I believe that the halving will only do good for the bitcoin price. Maybe an initial jump, then a price correction, and then we'll be steadily be on our way to the moon, like before.

I hope it will not go to the moon. I want small steady increase every month. This will make it an investment.

The most people with already Bitcoin are of course hoping that the halving will be bring a higher value and that is because the value of the Bitcoin was already stable for a long time.
So the time must now come to get a higher value so we can sell it in the future with a lot of profit.

of course the price jump will be really high during the halving thus it will allow all of the holders to make some good money by just holding their bitcoins and not doing anything

i think that the price might even reach a new all time high that would be really cool as i would be a pretty rich person then, though the price also might possibly drop even though theres a really small chance

There are a lot of people that is waiting for a halving, but the bad thing is that it will not even rise after the halving and that will be not good for those who already have Bitcoin.
Many people hope of course that it will rise, but you are not for sure that it can happen.

How sure are you that the price will not rise, it will man, as an investors we are looking forward to that to have a little profit from our investment. We should be positive and trust bitcoins as it has a good future ahead, if you are in the community all we need to help is just to support and spread the good news to your friends and family to attract more users to adopt.

The halving will affect the halving on a good and positive way if you ask me, it will let the price rise to a higher amount and that is also good and nice if you ask me.
The bitcoin has such nice advantages compared with other currency's.

You mean the halving will affect the value in a positive way, and I agree with you man. We don't need to prove it later as we already felt the power of halving now, look at the price of bitcoins its consistently increasing and that's the power of halving.

The halving will be not that bad of course but also not that best because it was already stable for a long time so the value will also not be that high in the halving. And that is bad because there are a lot of people that wants to make profit and that is not possible for them they have to wait a longer time.

That is right. The pricing effect of the halving could already be in the price of the bitcoin. There will be  no rise after halving.

That could happen but what is important in the current situation is we have to buy and save bitcoins to sell after the halving. If the price will be stable at least it will not go down and we can still sell our bitcoins for a huge profit.

I think the price will not go down quickly. It will stay around the current level until the halving, then it will go up.

It is a really hard question to answer and that is because you have to know that there will be more people that is going to have Bitcoin.
And Bitcoin is a currency so it will be really hard to predict for what will happen later with the currency so that is risky and scary.

The thing to consider here is that at the halving when price will be at its peak, most of the people will dump their coins to get the maximum benefit out of it and they may result in the significant decrease in the price of the bitcoin as everybody selling and no one buying.
So we have to wait and see how bitcoin will react to the situation. If its managed to survive without much dip in price, then hopefully it will go beyond of our expectations.

The halving will affect the price on a very positive way if you ask me because it has a very good future a head these days.
Also the fact that a lot of people are investing makes it very effective.

yes it will make all the predictions true. bitcoin movement will be so big and fast. in the presence of halving the market demand will be even greater. people will increasingly look for bitcoin, and bitcoin they will use it more often. bitcoin more credible and the future of bitcoin is very good.

Majority of the people here in the community sees the halving as the opportunity to earn with their investments. It is expected that the price will increase and that can be felt now as the price is steadily increasing. With this happening many people are buying bitcoins to save and which resulted to high demand of bitcoins.

i, and other predictors, are sure about one thing : price will rise, just we don't know to what point, and when, as price probably won't rise instantly after halving

personally i think that price from 600$ before halving will rise to 1000$ after halving, and because many people will sell bitcoins after halving, i think that price will rise 2 weeks after halving

That is good prediction, I agree with that. I think $1000 could be the price by the end of this year. $800 is just after halving.

the price will surely go to the new all time high later this year in my opinion, the price seems to be growing even more right now so such high numbers will surely be reachable soon

i think that the halving will push the price even more thus making the investors a lot of money, i hope that during the halving the price will be at least 900 per bitcoin what would be really cool

That could happen and that is possible this year, the price will increase due to the demands of the new players in the market and nothing we can do about it but to be thankful and enjoy our enormous profit if we belong to the investors side.

The halving already had the effect, the price is very high already. I think it is going to rise slowly from now on.

We are hoping that because we were able to invest when the price was still low, we have already reach $700 in a short span of time so it would be easy to achieve that again before the halving.

What are your entry signals for entering bitcoins. Do you think the current downward trend will offset the spike caused by the halving?

Out of the topic.

But to answer your question, entry signals? I don't want you to be like me but Im basing it in all about instinct based on all possible factors about the current price trend.

Of course you must afford to invest at the given price rate. Don't just go in a one big push if you don't have some extra money.

I am a believer of the bitcoin and I use the bitcoin. So it does not matter about the price. I will buy it when I have money.

The demand is always happening in a daily basis and we have seen increase in demand, but the halving would surely increase the price because of the difficulty in mining that would render the miners unprofitable earning with the current rate.

I hope we don't see our expectations of bitcoin's price hiking to go into garbage.
I think big boys are not yet prepared to shoot their guns, they are still planning something else.

miners will only continue mining if there is a profit to be made from Bitcoin, which means people have to use and value the digital currency. Thus block size halving signifies that Bitcoin is still relevant and it remained relevant for a significant amount of time.

I was hoping for such a thing to happen, just 1 week before the halving, but the fireworks did not come. Which means you have to be realistic.
Either a new correction will happen or with some 'bad luck' an giant correct will happen. We still haven't felt real sell pressure because of the halving.

   Possibly you are right,the big boys understood big whales in the end they can control the price, if they want the price drop,only they have to flood the markets with coins, if they want the price to rise only they have to take out the excess of coins, but also at any time you may see a shark swallowing all cheap coins  causing the price may go up due to shortage unexpected.

Halving is one of the event for bitcoin where we can see that block reward will be half from 25 btc into 12.5 well the price is always depand in supply and demand so the price should be rise because the reward or our supply are half because of the even block halving..

Halving is just 5 days away and we are still experiencing some downward movements in the prices. I am not sure if bitcoin will raise to the expectations this time on halving.

yeah, so small amount of days are left right now till halving and im a little bit afraid right now that the price is not going to start growing up any time soon unfortunately

i think the halving event itself should have a lot of positive effect on price but nearly anything might happen to be honest, if the price will not grow then there will be a lot of sad people

I am not sure how the halving is going to effect the value of the Bitcoin because the halving has yet to happen and to be honest anything could happen after the halving.
Maybe the price is going to rise to an even higher price or the price is going to drop even lower.

It will make the price doubled because the mining fee will cut into half. This is just what I think will happen, not today, not on the halving but for year 2017.

yes halving will not affect the amount of the current value. halving will only reduce how fast bitcoin born. bitcoin formed algorytma results of calculations which have been determined.

It will. If the supply gets harder the price will also increase. This is according to supply & demand value. It is like that if the demand increase the price also increase. Both are directly proportioned with the price. So expect to see an increase if the supply gets harder to get.

The price is dropping at the moment. So the rise in the last months could be due to halving. When it happens actually, the price will drop.

Yeah, Halving is a great event, we should use it and get profit, but for my view is that halving is giving help to increasing the price of bitcoin, if we see in the start of the year, bitcoin price was very low, i think that bitcoin was $325, but passing the time bitcoin price is growing up and that's all because of halving. 

It doubled this year and considering that we are just in the month of July, we can still see more growth in the coming months before this year will end, we should wait for that and buy more bitcoins now.

We will see some doubled price if the community will just not watch to increase it.For price to increase it needs an accumulation in the market. That's why the only thing I can saw for price to increase is there will be a big group of whales that will start a price rally. If we only rely on halving thing, it will not boost much the price. It needs support.

i think the double you mention is not happening since the halving only stretch the price half for the previous, but still the rise could still possible continue slowly if the people support on buying of coins, but what ive seen on current price today seems it well remain to stabilized untill the end of this month.

And will be more volatile as it goes.

Today's current price is a good start after block halving. We all know that it sucks to stay for below $500 for years.This is a great price to consider in my own view since Im started in bitcoin back when the price is around $250-$270. So seeing at around $650 is a big achievement and will now hope for another pumping scene that will bring the price up.

You are right, if the price will remain stable we should be thankful enough as this year we witness a good price. However, the halving is done and we know that price will rise so take the opportunity to buy since the price has not increase that much.

The price of bitcoin will rise gradually after September or October. That was what happened in 2012.

The effect of the halving will dwindle away. So the price of bitcoin will be more affected by general adoption in the future.

Yup Even I believe the same bro! But somehow it gives stability around 600$ at present, In future We can see more adoption and price rise in upcoming years.
I have noticed that large number of newbies in bitcointalk, that means in future we can see huge followers for this digital currency!

10 months after the halving in 2012, the price rose about $50 times. So this time, could rise about 10 times.

$600 is just fine for me at the moment because my earnings has a great value when converted to fiat by I also care for my investment so I believe that the price will increase more than its current price as a result of halving. The next few months would be crucial as we will be seeing a good price increase.

I think in the next 3 months, the price will be around $700 range. After that, the price could rise to $1000.

I realize that this is a speculation thread, but do you believe that the conditions in 2012 are the same as they are now, so that history will repeat itself?

yeah, i remember the first halving that happened, i hope that the same thing will happen after this halving too

I am pretty sure it will happen but will only happen to those people who can hold their bitcoins, patience is very important as halving is done already and all we have to do now is wait and witness the good news that is about to come.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise in the long term. So we have to be patient to make a very big profit.

Well, we have no choice but to wait if we want to make money of the price increase, bear in mind that any investment that would have a abrupt increase or fall back is not good for future investment and what is currently happening to bitcoin now is good for future investment.

i believe that the effects of halving will start to show soon and price will rise just like 2012.

but the rise will never be the same as 2012 because by that time bitcoin wasn't as popular as today and then it suddenly started to become more and more popular and the number of people got into bitcoin because of mining,... caused the big huge rise of 10x-50x and so on and the willy bot then pushed it to 100x
but none of them are present to day.