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Best thread I've ever seen! gg for doing this

Thanks! No takers yet though, might have to raise the fee :-)

Nice thread you have here. :)
but yeah. .002 btc will be so low for admitting their crimes. :P
And giving their reasons.
Ill be watching close to this thread as Im really interested to their answers too.
Goodluck and thanks.

what do you think I should offer them?

I don't want to feel like I'm rewarding these idiots, but at the same time? I'm kind of interested in the knowledge...lol

Asking scammers to be honest? Unpossible! Very nice post though. Maybe we can see inside the evil heart of a scammer.  >:(

Thanks, yeah I agree. If I come into some extra bitcoin I might raise the price, but these scammer accounts are really worthless anyway, so figured I'd give it a shot just to see if any of these scammers would step up.

No you should not raise the price anyways.
Free would be more better to offer.

Why will you give money to scammers?
You are basically giving them fuel to start scamming again. ;)

Nice and unique service anyways. :)

he is giving them money so leave the forum and don't scam anyone or spam on forum
he is trying to clean forum, taking such accounts and trash them

Wow. now this is a nice topic. But i dont think people will admit themselves about scamming.. why would they do that...when they are stealing the money.

and what if... they take the money.. and again make account and start scamming again ?

Even if they want to scam they can scam other forums .not here

I agree it's tough, I'm interested in the knowledge behind it also. Because some of these scammers are pretty smart, so it makes no sense to me why they can't make money legitimately. Prisons are full of these "masterminds" to, so it must be the excitement or rush they get from it. Because if they did apply that to good, they would be successful I think.

Very True!

thanks yeah, it's tough, I don't want to reward them but would love to keep them in newbie'ville at the same time :-) Those higher ranked accounts are dangerous even with the RED TRUST because there are certain boards here that do NOT show trust ratings until you click on the accounts.

How about a newbie welcome topic and awareness program for them.. to help them from falling prey to scammers.
We could sumurize the different ways how people have been scammed .. all the tricks so far.. and potential tricks... the smart one who read and be alert will be saved..

I definitely think it's needed, but it would be a HUGE THREAD :-) might have to create an entire website honestly for it or an entire section of the forum at the very least.

lol true that.. but atleast a small brief thing.. better something than nothing.. many are still adopting bitcoins.. and if they get scammed.. they wont even come back

Yeah maybe I'll work on something tonight to get it started and then others can add to it...lol or if you would like to start just post the link here when it's up, totally up to you. I have a lot going on at the moment anyway :-)

LOL why give up an account when I can easily scam for way more than you're paying for my account (even though I'm not high ranking)

I've scammed a few BTC with this account, reconsider you standards :)

How about just answering my survey then? If I like the response, and I think you answered honestly I'll send you some BTC

I hope someone reads this though and bans your account too...lol

Yeah i could do that. Its not a one person job anyways.. we could work in collaboration or something.
See tbh this is profitable to you or me.. but for the society as whole.. for which i am willing to put some time in..

give me a few days to get some information to start up. I will PM you.

For REAL.... ! he just said it.. wow...

is this forum damned ? mods and admins ?

Right! Dude's got BALLS OF STEEL!

and YES Please PM me once you have something up, we'll work together on it for sure.

Classic thread, 10/10.

Thanks!

I can only imagine how many notifications the mods and admins receive a day though, so we have to give them some time. I reported @HardcoreSuperstar thread earlier today though, so hopefully he gets the boot soon enough. We'll see what happens. But yeah if I was a mod I would be abusing my power right now on guys like @HardcoreSuperstar, so that's why I'm NOT a mod or an admin ...lol The BAN Hammer would be flying throughout the marketplace...lol I give these mods and admins credit for not getting BAN Happy though too. There needs to be a balance of some kind. 

It will be better if you encourage them to hand over their alt accounts, whether its negative or neutral for a better reward. ;)

This will help the growing community to demolish its negativity and ongoing scams.

Good luck bud :)

Why should he give better reward...
i think there shoudnt be any reward at all.. they have already scammed shit loads of money... just a disgrace to community.. no life.. ruining others as well

its been nearly 10 months i been here

never ever saw a post like this

you are truly a gentlemen

I do appreciate your work and theme

Kind regards

oh my, i now just realise this thread and i am very amazed on what you are trying to do here. well done in trying to keep this place clean. i am interest to noe too and i hope i also can have a chance to hear what the scammer gonna say too.

Maybe they're worried that you'd scam them, offer to use escrow  ;D

LoL This Post Is Epic ! :)

I'm back home, and 1st relinquish and survey will be posted shortly after I take control of the account and send the bitcoin.

Let's get more accounts!

I'm assuming you're an alt of lokos1913a?

1st Scammer paid https://blockchain.info/tx/c7288daadc095eef8c952d7956f7fff740cec81f5825073f4b9b9b181d43d0e2

ok the payment above I sent the scammer had a default miner fee that evidently was too low so it would have taken days if ever to get approved I guess, so I didn't want the first scammer relinquish to think they were scammed (lead by example) so I sent the payment again and manually entered the miner fee https://blockchain.info/tx/6ecee422053cd4013ae6fed43da5f9c08bec0bab2b80c6f82a0e7ffc27a6c91b

Well initially when I posted it, I never honestly thought a scammer would come forward and actually take the survey.

But now that one scammer actually has, I guess the purpose is the following:

1. Try to get the Scammers to actually THINK about what they are doing and WHY.

2. If I can get JUST ONE SCAMMER to actually leave this forum forever? It's well worth it to me, and if I can't? At least I hopefully made the scammer start over in newbie'ville. It's a LONG-SHOT I know, but I'm hopeful. I do think people CAN change, but I have been wrong before :-)

3. My own personal knowledge. Human behavior interests me somewhat.

The survey provided by @lokos1913a was kind of interesting, BUT the DISTURBING part for me? Was seeing that the wallet address the scammer gave me received over 19 BTC if I'm reading that correctly? https://blockchain.info/address/19JUFmKvsAH5Pqg65ZTdm5H1N7rhkntxBo That is NOT the kind of knowledge I was looking for and it made me kind of sick I added even 0.002 to it.



 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I will right now :-) Updating the thread to "ESCROW ACCEPTED" That's GREAT :-)

It appears to be a rollin.io deposit address, which would match with the scammer's gambling addiction story.

Yeah the survey did seem on the honest side when I first read it, hard to trust these guys though.

The scammer actually just PM'ed me from a BRAND NEW newbie account to and is worried because the transaction for the 0.002 BTC is going slow:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c7288daadc095eef8c952d7956f7fff740cec81f5825073f4b9b9b181d43d0e2

I never sent such a small amount, does it always take a longer amount of time on small amounts like 0.002?

The TX fee is low so it might take a while to get confirmed.

OHHHHHH, my wallet does the fee automatically, so I had no clue. Scammer thinks I'm trying to scam him probably :-) CLASSIC!

ok the payment above I sent the scammer had a default miner fee that evidently was too low based on 0.0001 per 1k bytes or something. So it would have taken days if ever to get confirmed. So I didn't want the first scammer relinquish to think they were scammed (you know? lead by example).

So I sent the payment again and manually entered the miner fee to the recommended minimum 0.0001 So payment was sent and confirmed now: https://blockchain.info/tx/6ecee422053cd4013ae6fed43da5f9c08bec0bab2b80c6f82a0e7ffc27a6c91b

Admin just needs to stop the selling of accounts and the problem will go away

How exactly do you propose to do that? Based on your tone it seems that you have a solid plan so please lay it out.

Admin will not listen to a request made by a junior member. Is this simple enough to understand?

Although selling accounts is not bad until you do something unethical to the community.
Now thats your sole choice.

actually, scammers can throw their burned accs in and get at least some btc :D

If you can't see a problem with selling old accounts then you will have to deal with the scammers.... People aren't buying old accounts for no other reason but to deceive people. Why shouldn't everyone build up their account like the rest of us instead of buying their way to the top? It makes a joke of the whole system when you can just come here and buy a senior account.... And you guys wonder why they scam you.


Close thread

No I think I'll keep my thread open thanks!

But just curious, if buying accounts is so against your moral compass? and the buying of OLD accounts in your own words "for no other reason but to deceive people", Why are you trying to buy a blackhatworld account from 2008?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1353529.msg13781314#msg13781314


You should look up the definition of hypocrisy sometime! lol Actually let me save you the trouble ...
hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
1. "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform"
2. "see @kidsolo"

You shouldn't assume anything about me. I am also a member of bhw and wanted to know how much they sell them for and then was going to msg him to know the user name. If you actualy did your homework you will find I have been a. Member of bhw for a long time (2008) and have no need to buy an account.

Well you're also asking about accounts here on this forum too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1041698.msg11267709#msg11267709
So you either like to hijack threads and talk non-sense or you are indeed a hypocrite, and that's NO ASSUMPTION. There are plenty of other LEGITIMATE reasons users buy bitcointalk accounts here is all I was saying, some people don't have an extra 1.3 YEARS OF TIME to waste to achieve HERO STATUS for ONE REASON, helping lenders recoup loans is yet another etc. So when you make an absolute blanket statement like "People aren't buying old accounts for no other reason but to deceive people" after you yourself are inquiring about buying these very same accounts just seems very odd. So please move onto your next thread hijacking if you would please! Thanks!

You conveniently ignored my very simple question - how? How would the "admin" prevent account sales? So when you get off you high horse please address that issue in depth. Preferably in your own thread because it's really getting off topic here.

+1

You might want to read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg13613499#msg13613499
While I think that copperhorse111, NETFix and cointtoo went away after a defaulted loan, I'm pretty sure the user still got control over Zaragota95.

Thanks man! I did see this PRIOR, which is why I asked for ALL his ALT's, but the scammer "claims" other ALT accounts are no longer under his control. But I did manage to get him to add ONE of his alts anyway :-( But I did TRY!

2nd Scammer Paid https://blockchain.info/tx/81513635520dc6366bb39e588c48028a90f485a58b6b8f6b80adf7e4e7831ca4

I want to kind of switch the survey questions up also, so if anyone has any ideas let me know!

I addressed your question quite clearly and you conveniently deleted my post because you are self moderating. It makes one wonder if you paid for your account, maybe you should hand yours in.

It's always great accusing people who clearly are not OP of censoring a thread. How would suchmoon delete your reply in a self-moderated thread started by Operatr?!

Operator deleted my post

I asked you to move on repeatedly, please do so. You never answered suchmoon question regardless. Is your REAL NAME "Kidsolo" are you trying to deceive people by using a "username"? Probably not, so please save your baseless arguments for your own thread. I'm NOT interested in them here. Thanks! You are a HYPOCRITE end of story,  you inquire repeatedly on account for sale threads but then complain about accounts being sold?  So please feel free to re-post your baseless post again and i'll leave it up, but it did NOT answer suchmoon's question I assure you.  He asked HOW you suggest the admins ban account sales? and also do we ban TOR, do we ban VPN's because obviously if EVERYONE who buys accounts is out to deceive, then EVERYONE also using TOR has to be right?, do we ban VPN's?, ALIASES?, a USERNAME instead of their REAL NAME is out to deceive technically according to your whacky ass logic! Just admit you were wrong on top of being a hypocrite and all is forgiven. Have a great weekend!

No you didn't address anything, and yet you keep trying to buy user accounts and vpn's yourself? I'll pay you to relinquish your shitty hypocritical @kidsolo thread trolling account to me right now. ...lol

Just answer these 5 questions @Kidsolo.

1. Why do you like being a hypocrite?

2. What is your spiritual belief system?

3. How long have you been a hypocritical thread troll?

4. Why do you require a vpn, why not use your regular ip address you were issued like everyone else should?

5. Who are you trying to deceive with your VPN?

now send me your account username and password and promise to never troll this forum again forever and I will issue you your 0.002 bitcoin

You didn't and I didn't. You lack the knowledge of how the forum works. Start your own thread if you don't like the topic of this one. I'm still interested in how you would preventing account sales - because to my knowledge no one has come up with a realistic solution for this - but for the purposes of this thread it's irrelevant. Start a new one and let me know if you want.

Operatr - I'm sorry for engaging in this discussion, this is my last post in response to kidsolo here.

No worries man, you had good intentions. @Kidsolo is a HYPOCRITICAL TROLL nothing more, I am about to offer him relinquishment :-)

You ban the people selling the accounts. If they use a vpn or other means to create a new account, so be it, at least they have to start at the bottom again where people don't trust them.

When Indianacoin told me that "admin wouldn't listen to a Jr. Member" it clearly shows how stupid it is. All I have to do is buy a senior account and admin will listen to me, I'm buying my authority.

How many normal forums allow you to sell accounts for that same forum? Those that do get the scammers that they deserve.

I would prefer YOU buy an account instead of me having to read 1.3 years of your nonsense honestly. Solely because of YOU, I am now in total favor of account sales from this point forward...lol Thanks @Kidsolo

You are in favour of account sales? Good, CLOSE THREAD!!!

Must be cool in your transfigured version of the reality.

Nuff said.

Right ! :-)

If the forum works by selling senior accounts then don't whinge when the system gets abused.

Lol! Exaggerate much?
I meant admin will not listen to anyone regarding this account selling issue of yours whether you are a newbie or a legendary donator.

Now get your ass moving to other forums if you dont deem yourself fit in this forum.
Such an ignorant troll!


This sums it up all about you, kiddo.


Operatr is doing a great job relinquishing them so you dont have to worry about it.

Seems like this kidsolo is just a troll. Negative accounts can't really do much. Can't participate in many signature campaigns, not as easy to scam with having a big red trust, and paying of scam debts to make it useful is useless.