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Title: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: abs350 on February 22, 2016, 12:57:06 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: n0ne on February 22, 2016, 01:38:37 PM
I don't think america as a failed nation. If it is a failed nation, why most people talk about various incidents talking place in america.
Why they all compare their countries growth along with america in terms of economy, education as well technology.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: clickerz on February 22, 2016, 03:23:55 PM
I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: MedaR on February 22, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
America protecting selfish interest of multinational corporations and few wealthiest families in the world.
And yes this is declining star and will burst in super blast!
I'm only sorry for those people who dont even know, in which world that are living.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33440287
http://fortune.com/2015/07/20/united-states-decline-statistics-economic/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQN_f1w4OVo


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Betwrong on February 22, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: spazzdla on February 22, 2016, 04:42:09 PM
100% the people fled Britain so they could be free from tyrants.. America is now Tyrant #1.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kprawn on February 22, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
A failed nation in my opinion, is a place where you not allowed to walk free and make a living. There are nations where all actions of people daily lives are governed by

the government. {The way you communicate and the way you act in public} I would much rather live in America than say North Korea or the Middle East. Yes, America

has some major challenges and it's economy is one aspect of it, but it succeeds in many other areas, and that's what is important. {Live Free}  


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: allthingsbtc on February 22, 2016, 05:02:30 PM
I think the question needs to be broken into two.

Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.

Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Amph on February 22, 2016, 05:29:59 PM
it's not america it's the whole fiat garbage system that is a fail, the infinite printing the fraction reserve and all those crap that only increase the debts by trying to solve the other old debts

but it's also the only system that work easily and permit a huge liquidity for the government


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: aardvark15 on February 22, 2016, 05:53:53 PM
I don't think America has failed.  However, I think America has a lot of big problems and has a long way to go to fix them.  Most other countries also have big problems as well, many with much bigger problems.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: spazzdla on February 22, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
I think the question needs to be broken into two.

Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.

Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.

This is perfect.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: onlinedragon on February 22, 2016, 06:14:03 PM
They just press new money and higher the maximum national debt platform.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: blackbird307 on February 22, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.

They all compare themselves to America because America is very good at marketing and has created a good image about itself.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Chef Ramsay on February 22, 2016, 06:35:41 PM
I think the question needs to be broken into two.

Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.

Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.

This is perfect.
Amen


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: RodeoX on February 22, 2016, 06:44:10 PM
Too strong a statement, IMO. I assume you mean "failed state", which has a specific meaning.  However you should consider moving "NSA spying on everybody" into the fail category. Fear comes from insecurity. Like the paranoia that leads to thinking everyone is a threat and must be controlled. Successful, healthy governments trust their people and represent them. Dictatorships spy on their people.

I also think Obama care is in no way a fail. Our healthcare system has consistently ranked dead last in the developed world. We pay far more for drugs and every medical service. Then we receive far less care for that money. It's not single payer yet, but at least we are trying to build something that measures up to the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: gkv9 on February 22, 2016, 07:09:50 PM
It ain't a failed nation, but a place which is under lots and lots of debt pressure and it won't be easy at all for them to get out of it...
I see many countries and they are by for the most "indebted" ones I have ever witnessed... ;)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Anddos on February 22, 2016, 07:12:22 PM
It America is so great, then to whom is it in debt to? That's curious. Or are they in debt amongst themselves? Which would be the funniest thing ever.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Newmba on February 22, 2016, 07:40:36 PM
are you typing this from America?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaysabi on February 22, 2016, 09:05:53 PM
No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.

They all compare themselves to America because America is very good at marketing and has created a good image about itself.

Right, the Declaration of Independence was a marketing ploy, just like all that freedom and liberty propaganda.  ::)  The Founding Fathers: The Original Mad Men.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Macadonian on February 22, 2016, 09:18:35 PM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mixan on February 22, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
It is has not failed. Would you say the same about the UK about it talking about leaving the Euro zone?
It might be a misguided nation but not a failure.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bakingbad on February 22, 2016, 09:35:49 PM
i dont think so, it is not a failed nation and never will be, i hope that american economic situation will be better in the future


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Drewski on February 22, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
It America is so great, then to whom is it in debt to? That's curious. Or are they in debt amongst themselves? Which would be the funniest thing ever.

They issue debt, in the form of T-bills, which others can buy.  The two biggest are actually China and Japan.  If you have mutual funds, you most likely have some in your portfolio as it's viewed as a very safe investment.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 22, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
Of course it is, It never had a chance, England never really gave up control. They just moved to control through banking, The Anglo- Zionists have you guys stiched up pretty good and the public are to brain dead to work it out. Rather talk about the kardashions


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 22, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
When A country fails to provide basic affordable healthcare for the poor, look after it's elderly, Not provide potable water to cities have a police murder rate higher than whole murder rates of entire continents. goes around the world destroying other countries to suck the assets up. I think only a CNN cocksmoker could say it's not a complete failure of an Oligarchy   


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: nickenburg on February 22, 2016, 09:55:00 PM
Yes they are very failed, my opinion why:

First and 1 of the most important:

They have the biggest debt of all country's
They Still spend most money on The army and war
Guns are allowed
Politicians are corrupt
They try to scare the people all over the world with terrorism.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Drewski on February 22, 2016, 10:33:22 PM
Yes they are very failed, my opinion why:

First and 1 of the most important:

They have the biggest debt of all country's
They Still spend most money on The army and war
Guns are allowed
Politicians are corrupt
They try to scare the people all over the world with terrorism.


1. They have the biggest debt because they have the largest GDP.  They use debt as an instrument to fund growth.
2. Guns being legal is not in itself an evil, it's people being irresponsible with guns that are the issue.
3. All politicians are corrupt in some form or fashion.  Look at any country that allows campaign donations.
4. Terrorism isn't America's fault (entirely), though their interventions do seem to provoke it.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mixan on February 22, 2016, 11:33:15 PM
It America is so great, then to whom is it in debt to? That's curious. Or are they in debt amongst themselves? Which would be the funniest thing ever.

They issue debt, in the form of T-bills, which others can buy.  The two biggest are actually China and Japan.  If you have mutual funds, you most likely have some in your portfolio as it's viewed as a very safe investment.
Everybody knows that America is in debt to China because they borrowed so much from them and has not paid them back yet from previous debts yet.
Will they ever pay them back? I very much doubt it. :-\


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: countryfree on February 22, 2016, 11:34:55 PM
All nations are failures for men. They were invented to enslave free men. A nation can only survive by enslaving its people, so if people revolt, or just stop supporting it, the nation just fail. It just vanishes like it would have never existed, and that's good. Imagine a world where nobody would have a passport. That's a dream.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 22, 2016, 11:36:27 PM

1. They have the biggest debt because they have the largest GDP.  They use debt as an instrument to fund growth.


Thats is called a ponzi in other terms, And how is that growth going? Debt reaches a point that cant be undone... Hence fails


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 22, 2016, 11:37:10 PM
All nations are failures for men. They were invented to enslave free men. A nation can only survive by enslaving its people, so if people revolt, or just stop supporting it, the nation just fail. It just vanishes like it would have never existed, and that's good. Imagine a world where nobody would have a passport. That's a dream.

Iceland is a fair example of a good country, Applies the law equally to all


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 22, 2016, 11:37:37 PM
All nations are failures for men. They were invented to enslave free men. A nation can only survive by enslaving its people, so if people revolt, or just stop supporting it, the nation just fail. It just vanishes like it would have never existed, and that's good. Imagine a world where nobody would have a passport. That's a dream.


So your a NWO fanboy?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mrhelpful on February 22, 2016, 11:58:01 PM
America failed as a nation, but that doesnt mean you have to fail with america lol.

Atleast among most of us here we got bitcoin - which can change to other countries fiat and react faster then most as some type of edge.



Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Drewski on February 23, 2016, 12:08:58 AM

1. They have the biggest debt because they have the largest GDP.  They use debt as an instrument to fund growth.


Thats is called a ponzi in other terms, And how is that growth going? Debt reaches a point that cant be undone... Hence fails

No, a ponzi scheme doesn't generate any real growth, it takes new payments to pay off investors.

America's growth is a quantifiable number, it's GDP.  Without loaning money, that growth would be slower or non-existent.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: SFR10 on February 23, 2016, 10:38:46 AM
IMO their not yet a failed nation however if they continue to give more positions to those who have little to no knowledge and understanding of certain issues, then I wouldn't be surprised that they fall on that route too, since the signs (recently) are not good base on my understanding and more complications would surely rise in the end.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pitchblackroom on February 23, 2016, 01:27:07 PM
IMO their not yet a failed nation however if they continue to give more positions to those who have little to no knowledge and understanding of certain issues, then I wouldn't be surprised that they fall on that route too, since the signs (recently) are not good base on my understanding and more complications would surely rise in the end.

I would agree on that, however I think the reason that American's fail is that the society is influenced by the 1% which has the ability to tell the populace what is good and what is bad.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mrflibblehat on February 23, 2016, 01:39:55 PM
They are just living in their own world, not on Earth. Like: American football world championship? They're the only ones playing the game.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on February 23, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.
Who says they are strongest?
I don't know what reference you are using for measuring somebody strength?
Russia have more confidence in army, thay are strong as a nation and they have PUTIN.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kprawn on February 23, 2016, 04:49:28 PM
Yes they are very failed, my opinion why:

First and 1 of the most important:

They have the biggest debt of all country's
They Still spend most money on The army and war
Guns are allowed
Politicians are corrupt
They try to scare the people all over the world with terrorism.


They have the biggest debt, because like many other countries people live above their means and the bankers encourage reckless debt. The military budget cannot just

be seen as a expense, it currently provides employment for thousands of people to protect their freedom. Private ownership of guns and weapons makes them a even

stronger enemy for his enemies. If you want to see corrupt governments, just go to 3rd world developing countries, where it is even worse. Terrorism is a real threat,

just look what happened recently in Paris.  ::)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: blackbird307 on February 23, 2016, 06:22:24 PM
Well I can tell you that it is not the land of the free or the place where you can make any dream come true. That is for sure.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: gkv9 on February 23, 2016, 07:30:50 PM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.
Who says they are strongest?
I don't know what reference you are using for measuring somebody strength?
Russia have more confidence in army, thay are strong as a nation and they have PUTIN.


We ain't here for any WAR TBH...
So, please stop comparing countries and continents and let's just be on topic, it's about a nation's dignity and not strength we are talking about...
America has its own issues, so does Russia...
Everyone's stronger, nobody's behind, as Unity is strength...


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Faxmate on February 23, 2016, 08:03:01 PM
Well I can tell you that it is not the land of the free or the place where you can make any dream come true. That is for sure.

The US government has more control of everything now. It is not good for the freedom of the people.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mrhelpful on February 23, 2016, 08:29:58 PM
Well I can tell you that it is not the land of the free or the place where you can make any dream come true. That is for sure.

The US government has more control of everything now. It is not good for the freedom of the people.

Its about to gain more control soon, seeing that we are about to go more involved with this proxy cold war 2.0 with russia.

The situation with ukraines split north/south.

Usually wars aftermath comes with sucking up their countries wealth. You can google on vices video on this.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Anddos on February 23, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
The government gains control under the pretense that it wants to help people. Nice little loophole they've found.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mixan on February 24, 2016, 01:46:54 AM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.
Who says they are strongest?
I don't know what reference you are using for measuring somebody strength?
Russia have more confidence in army, thay are strong as a nation and they have PUTIN.

They have more influence over the European union since they were not scared to go up against Hitler and win.
But not the strongest as of now. I agree, Russia is the biggest and the strongest nation. With Putin as not being a puppet but for his country. A country needs a fearless leader to be the most powerful.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thoth-Atlantian on February 24, 2016, 06:14:13 AM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.
Who says they are strongest?
I don't know what reference you are using for measuring somebody strength?
Russia have more confidence in army, thay are strong as a nation and they have PUTIN.

They have more influence over the European union since they were not scared to go up against Hitler and win.
But not the strongest as of now. I agree, Russia is the biggest and the strongest nation. With Putin as not being a puppet but for his country. A country needs a fearless leader to be the most powerful.

Against a weakened Nazi's yes, But Russia did the grunt work. And the loophole of what is good for us only exists behind the CNN curtain, Free minds see the truth.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: clangtrump on February 24, 2016, 06:34:44 AM
I guess we can notice if a nation is failing from its citizens? If the employment rate is low and gdp is low then we can say its failing.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: goinmerry on February 24, 2016, 07:13:36 AM
I don't think america as a failed nation. If it is a failed nation, why most people talk about various incidents talking place in america.
Why they all compare their countries growth along with america in terms of economy, education as well technology.

Agree  with this one regarding the comparing method. Almost every country wants to have something that America does. Although now, others are now comparing themselves to other country like China or North Korea. For defense and military tactics.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on February 24, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Americans are very spoiled nation, They living their lives and don't think anything about rest of the world. If they don't have money they will lend it in bank. If they don't have car, they will borrow money from bank, and will bought car..
They watch tv, drink beer, and eat fast food. Cheap oil, buying things they do not need, high immorality..

Small majority of people even know where is greece.
That is what they are fallen nation!

Wake up!

Cast exceptions! ;)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: romero121 on February 24, 2016, 11:38:31 PM
I guess we can notice if a nation is failing from its citizens? If the employment rate is low and gdp is low then we can say its failing.

Recently unemployment problem arose, for that we can't say they are failed nation. I does't think America a failed nation, it can be said
a selfish nation. They won't think about other countries when they have planned to grab something from other nations. Just they decide
themselves and start their action.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Drewski on February 24, 2016, 11:50:36 PM
Well I can tell you that it is not the land of the free or the place where you can make any dream come true. That is for sure.

The land of dreams doesn't mean that everybody gets everything they want.  As their constitution puts it, they have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  The pursuit of happiness still requires hard work on the individual's part, or lots of luck in some cases.  There are places where you aren't guaranteed any rights at all.  What rights you have are what whoever is in power (or holding a gun to your head) at the moment decides you have.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: KiwiParty on February 24, 2016, 11:51:03 PM
I guess we can notice if a nation is failing from its citizens? If the employment rate is low and gdp is low then we can say its failing.

Recently unemployment problem arose, for that we can't say they are failed nation. I does't think America a failed nation, it can be said
a selfish nation. They won't think about other countries when they have planned to grab something from other nations. Just they decide
themselves and start their action.

Such a stupid comment.
A selfish nation? What makes them different to other nations? All are selfish, thats why there are nations.
The united nation isnt selfish in this regards.
What is most annoying about the states, everyone curses them, but everyone envys them. So what?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: HarryKPeters on February 25, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
Not Failed, but they got a lot of corrupt people with power. This is causing their downfall.
In general Americans are not better or worse then the average human being walking on this earth.

But people like Trump give them a bad name.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: EdenHazard on February 25, 2016, 08:01:47 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Lutzow on February 25, 2016, 08:10:46 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.

America used to be the greatest but not anymore. The American Dream sprouted decades ago and is no longer applicable today. There are so many countries who don't have tax, lives in peace and without debt so large that if it's being divided to its population everyone owes some $58,000. It's like every citizen has a loan of 145 BTC more or less.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mixan on February 25, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
Not Failed, but they got a lot of corrupt people with power. This is causing their downfall.
In general Americans are not better or worse then the average human being walking on this earth.

But people like Trump give them a bad name.
And if the recent majority ridings have anything to say about this, it looks like he is going run that nation then drive it into the ground all in the name of profiteering for his name.
He is so delusional he stated that 74% of the latino population gave him a positive approval rating in recent polls.
What ???


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Dr.Osh on February 25, 2016, 09:51:07 AM
I think not, I think America is regarded as a developed country that is good, although a lot of rumors about the state of American news but also very much good news from the country, one of which they always make a good movie, and we always wait at the cinema in our country


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on February 25, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.
We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU,  and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kprawn on February 25, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.
We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU,  and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs.  ;)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Yakamoto on February 25, 2016, 04:33:25 PM
surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.
We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU,  and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs.  ;)
Exactly. The US might not be the role model for economic progress, but there are other countries far worse than it such as the countries you mentioned.

The US does have some inherent advantages that allow for them to avoid issues that other EU countries face, such as having the largest economy in the world and the world reserve currency, however. It would be interesting to see what would happen to them if they didn't have the same advantages.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: chanchel on February 25, 2016, 06:05:37 PM
Is it failed now?  No, not yet anyway.  Did Obamacare hurt the country?  Yes, it did.  Are there a lot of policies in place that are destroying what the nation was founded on?  Absolutely, and eventually those policies will destroy the nation.  The constitution was designed to limit the power of government and create checks and balances for the specific branches.  The leaders of this country have all but destroyed the constitution and what was intended by it.  Executive orders, BLM, EPA, and whole slew of other things are at the top of the list.  It hasn't failed yet, but it is well on its way.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: thinkinger on February 25, 2016, 06:57:53 PM
all the time from being founded America has been climbing up to the hill .Now it has come to the highest part. But a wrong hill cause the hill has no climbing down , a one side hill , cause of living a life with the help of loaners. After now it is time for america fall from a great height.A totally collapse.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: blackbird307 on February 25, 2016, 07:55:47 PM
The question is: does America seem like a successful nation?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pab on February 26, 2016, 12:50:43 AM
What is America nation native americans or white american USA constitution is full of great words
but for many americans only words USA is in deep crisis becouse of sate of mind of americans ignorance arogance paranoia low selfestimate mixed with big sic ambitions
Money is nothin debt always most important is human capitlal corporartion has to fail does anything will lefr


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on February 26, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
"The United States government reported in 2008 that approximately 13 million people over the age
 of 12 have used methamphetamine—and 529,000 of those are regular users."
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/crystalmeth/a-worldwide-epidemic-of-addiction.html

If we forget on war on terrorists and economic crisis, oil price dropping..
Maybe this can tell us how US nation standing.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: MedaR on February 28, 2016, 08:23:26 PM
I would say Americans as nation are on right way to hell!

Because they have become nation that neglecting everything.
Why some free nation like Libya was bombed, they don't know, they believe to its government.
They don't even realize how big is national debt or don't care?
Buying, spending, while kids growing with bad influence of MTV POP culture.
Hollywood influence, i wont even bother to talk.

I can only ask what happened on 9.11. ?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Cyaren on February 28, 2016, 09:30:20 PM
I think every nation is a failure right now with their economic standards(fiat). If they can switch to a more stable economic system, like BTC or gold standard, then they have a much better chance of becoming successful.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaysabi on March 05, 2016, 02:09:37 AM
surprising me,and hard to choose between yes or no,but because i'm nt american,so i will really respect to them,US is NOT failed nation,every nation have debt,every nation ever feel economic collapse,but i never see aountry like america who have very strong military,busy country in the world,so many big companies there,and its make America still lead the world.
We all see how America leads world to economic disaster.
Also all those military actions only brought more problem to rest of the world especially EU,  and as accomplice now have major problem with migrations..

America are not the leaders in pulling down the world economy... We saw several other countries in the EU during the previous economic disaster {2008} who did just

that, for example Greece / Portugal / Ireland / Spain .... There are many other countries closer than economic collapse than the USA will ever be. The debt problem is

a global sickness, but also a driving force of economic growth. Not all debt is bad... some debt create businesses and those businesses create jobs.  ;)
Exactly. The US might not be the role model for economic progress, but there are other countries far worse than it such as the countries you mentioned.

The US does have some inherent advantages that allow for them to avoid issues that other EU countries face, such as having the largest economy in the world and the world reserve currency, however. It would be interesting to see what would happen to them if they didn't have the same advantages.

You make it sound like the US just lucked into having the world's largest economy. You know how that happened? They built it. When America broke ties with Europe in the 18th century, they also broke ties with a lot of the class structure and political anchors that were weighing Europe down. America was successful because they didn't have wasteful monarchies tying them down, and because to a large extent, it was a meritocracy, where the best ideas and the most innovative people win. That's what created the world's largest economy. It wasn't luck, it was earned.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: eternalgloom on March 05, 2016, 04:14:06 AM
I think it would be wrong to call the US a failed nation, the people still have a pretty high living standard compared to the rest of the world.
There is also relative peace and stability if you look at the grand scheme of things. I would call North Korea a failed nation, or Syria, Iraq in their current state.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaysabi on March 05, 2016, 04:22:37 AM
I think it would be wrong to call the US a failed nation, the people still have a pretty high living standard compared to the rest of the world.
There is also relative peace and stability if you look at the grand scheme of things. I would call North Korea a failed nation, or Syria, Iraq in their current state.

It's interesting that you bring up North Korea, among the other examples of Syria and Iraq. Of the three, North Korea seems like the least "failed" to me. Syria and Iraq are both undergoing violent instability that threatens the cohesion of the nation, but not so in North Korea. Now granted, that's because North Korea has a vice-like grip over the populace, but that doesn't at all equate to being a failed state. Brutal authoritarianism doesn't make a state a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: btcbug on March 05, 2016, 04:18:59 PM
I believe America was the most successful nation in the history of the world. It protected individual and economic freedom through it's constitution and with that degree liberty, people flourished and created the most wealth the world's ever seen.

The reality is that with great wealth comes the same degree of government expansion because the parasitic class quickly grabs hold the reigns of power. Thieves and murderers are petty criminals. The smartest sociopaths in the world go to the top, where they can commit theft and murder on grand scale and people praise them for it.

America will fall just as all nations throughout history have, it's inevitable. So in that sense it will be a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Sourgummies on March 05, 2016, 04:21:44 PM
America is just simply a regurgitative system continuously being run on greed and the ideas of third-party members who are funded day and night. Just keep printing that money, keep supplying those banks, and see where you end up. But unfortunately the majority of people either don't know about the reality or are abstaining from thinking about it. Economy is shit.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: botany on March 05, 2016, 05:12:59 PM
America is just simply a regurgitative system continuously being run on greed and the ideas of third-party members who are funded day and night. Just keep printing that money, keep supplying those banks, and see where you end up. But unfortunately the majority of people either don't know about the reality or are abstaining from thinking about it. Economy is shit.

As long as there are other countries in the world which accepts the dollars that America prints, this cycle goes on. When the confidence of other countries runs out, there is going to be a big mess.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: newcoins1978 on March 05, 2016, 06:42:43 PM
They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: eon89 on March 05, 2016, 07:10:01 PM
They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

Right. "Differently". You really believe that?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: panju1 on March 06, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

Failure of a nation does not refer to how they do things (differently or otherwise).
Failure of a nation refers to quality of living, security, rule of law, monetary stability, etc.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: romero121 on March 06, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

Failure of a nation does not refer to how they do things (differently or otherwise).
Failure of a nation refers to quality of living, security, rule of law, monetary stability, etc.

Yes from your way of looking america, its not a failed nation in whatever way considered like living, security, rule, rights to people.etc. If america is considered by economy, curruption, wealth, Living standard also its not at all a failed nation. Some say it a failed nation just based on the leaders.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Faxmate on March 06, 2016, 04:32:45 PM
They are not a failed nation, they just do things differently. No harm in that.
Most of their people thing differently which sometimes is good and sometimes can be terrible.

Failure of a nation does not refer to how they do things (differently or otherwise).
Failure of a nation refers to quality of living, security, rule of law, monetary stability, etc.

If a nation does not do things properly. It will affect the living standards of the people. One example is Syria now.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: neinnein125 on March 06, 2016, 05:36:37 PM
I think it is still not failed nation.
But in my opinion it (first time in history) has chance to fail against china or europa. (economic power+military)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Snorek on March 07, 2016, 01:45:52 AM
This is what FIAT economy based of debt looks like. At the first glance America is big, great, rich.
But if we take a close look everything is paid for it with debt: credit card debt, student loan debt, mortgage debt, business debt, national debt…
If we don't see any moves and reforms aimed to cut this situation there will be grim future ahead -  economic crisis, or even war.

I don't think that America failed yet. But it is deep down on the road to hell right now.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: goinmerry on March 07, 2016, 02:23:19 PM
It is now failing though. Maybe because of the freedom fighters (some media) that wants to know the real truth about America. We know there are lots that are still hidden in that government. One example is they are funding the ISIS from start. Before it really become ISIS though. They didnt know that it will get strong like that.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Dr.Osh on March 07, 2016, 02:52:01 PM
I think it is still not failed nation.
But in my opinion it (first time in history) has chance to fail against china or europa. (economic power+military)
I also think, America is not a failed state, but I think it is also not enough to say the state is good, probably because I've heard a lot of negative news about the United States. but a lot of good things I get out of the country, as I could to the movies with my girlfriend to watch American films  ;D


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: DimensionZ on March 07, 2016, 02:59:28 PM
I won't comment on the living standards in the USA but I think people have the perfect conditions to develop start-up companies and in general to do prolific business with a lot of opportunities. If you have a unique idea for a new product you can become rich very fast if you work hard and follow your dreams.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ingiltere on March 07, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
America is not a nation. It's a country with a lot of different communities. You can see every race, every religion, every belief there. All kind of people, a lot of different opinions. And the best thing is it's the most liberal country in the world. There are a lot of bad sides too, but if you consider all countries in the world, USA is the best place to live in earth.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: btc_enigma on March 07, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
How is this relavant to the message board ! Seems like a random topic


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: arbitrage on March 08, 2016, 01:05:20 PM
America is not a nation. It's a country with a lot of different communities. You can see every race, every religion, every belief there. All kind of people, a lot of different opinions. And the best thing is it's the most liberal country in the world. There are a lot of bad sides too, but if you consider all countries in the world, USA is the best place to live in earth.
Yes you are probably right, US is now best place for living but for how long this is going to last. Situation is almost dramatically different if you compare Baby boomers and their standard of living. US actually decreasing production and increasing consumption.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: KiwiParty on March 08, 2016, 01:12:19 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


If you knew that I am the only person being able to give an approriate answer.
But I can't. Not because of your superficial style to answer such a question.

USA isnt just obama, or abamacare, or the debt, the nsa. all that is nonsense.
if you ask about this nation you have to ask the people, those chained to this country.
in good and bad times. not only those prospering, but also those who dont.

What you want to know is when the next party train to disney land is taking you aboard.
because there is going to be a mega party, and you'll have a lot of fun.
Pls tell Donald, Minnie & Goofy I sad Hello, ok?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Revelations86 on March 08, 2016, 01:51:34 PM
We have the worst of the worst options to pick from.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: arbitrage on March 09, 2016, 08:58:13 AM
American people talks about democracy and freedom and rights, but they don't control their government.
This is obvious and without denying please, whoever comes in White House remains the same foreign policy.
Probably because someone else dictate what is best interest for US (corporations) residents.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: greghansel89 on March 09, 2016, 12:46:03 PM
Quote
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

No.its not about military or NSA,america is still one of the best country where you can live, unlike other country that has been struggling each day just to raise up their economy.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: valta4065 on March 09, 2016, 12:52:04 PM

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



How are those arguments for a great America?
Largest military so what? They use it abusively without thinking about consequences, This goes directly into the YES section. And how is NSA not being able to keep his eyes on his job a good thing? They spy their citizens and their allies! How can it be the sign of a great nation?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 09, 2016, 04:57:24 PM
America is more like soup of many nations, religions and cultures. This diversity makes US best example how should world functioning. But i don't like greedy capitalist system and enormous national debt. Also privacy is not something important any more, NSA can do whatever they like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
This is something that undermining human rights..Democracy dying.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: valta4065 on March 10, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
America is more like soup of many nations, religions and cultures. This diversity makes US best example how should world functioning. But i don't like greedy capitalist system and enormous national debt. Also privacy is not something important any more, NSA can do whatever they like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
This is something that undermining human rights..Democracy dying.

Whaou, if US is and example of what the world should become I'd better die alone Oo


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ibitkong on March 10, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Yes


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: n0ne on March 11, 2016, 04:14:37 AM
America is not a failed nation. If it's a failed nation why most of the people from rest of the world wish or dream to have a living in America.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Decoded on March 11, 2016, 05:36:51 AM
America isn't a failed nation. But it's heading towards that, with Trump and all...

 ;D


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pollak on March 11, 2016, 02:23:31 PM
It is not a failed nation. It is a good one. And many people are very negative about Bitcoin because it has not that high value.
But they must to wait see for what is going to happen and the price will of course rise in the future.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bitbunnny on March 11, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
I wouldn't say that they are the failed nation. But they have specific mentality maybe because in the history they always had some kind of special "status".


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: HeroCat on March 11, 2016, 03:50:38 PM
US debt is real headache, this is just financial question for the future, because the debt can be paid by higher taxes. Or may be another decision - for example, US start to sale something very profitable - like new and cheap cars and all world is buying them  ;)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 11, 2016, 07:19:06 PM
-gone-

Whaou, if US is and example of what the world should become I'd better die alone Oo
I didn't tell whole world just looks like US but some norms and rights can become example
 for EU and the rest of the world. I'm talking about equality of all citizens.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sallymeeh27 on March 11, 2016, 08:25:53 PM
I believe so that America is not a falling nation for most of other country depends on American economy. Other countries including Asia, depend always on America including defense force and other economic ways. I still remember when America economy falls, followed all other countries for recessions, loosing jobs and closing business this is so sad during that time..


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Piltover on March 11, 2016, 10:20:25 PM
I believe so that America is not a falling nation for most of other country depends on American economy. Other countries including Asia, depend always on America including defense force and other economic ways. I still remember when America economy falls, followed all other countries for recessions, loosing jobs and closing business this is so sad during that time..

That is not a reason for not being a failed nation. Them being important is evident but them a failed nation? Well opinions differ. My opinion is they are halfway there with Trump becoming the next president. They will come in a big downfall. that's for sure.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: pitham1 on March 13, 2016, 03:39:49 AM
I believe so that America is not a falling nation for most of other country depends on American economy. Other countries including Asia, depend always on America including defense force and other economic ways. I still remember when America economy falls, followed all other countries for recessions, loosing jobs and closing business this is so sad during that time..

That is not a reason for not being a failed nation. Them being important is evident but them a failed nation? Well opinions differ. My opinion is they are halfway there with Trump becoming the next president. They will come in a big downfall. that's for sure.

Trump might be throwing a lot of radical views right now, but he will temper down if he does indeed become president. He is just playing to the gallery right now. He will become practical once he is elected.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: cooldgamer on March 13, 2016, 03:41:46 AM
I believe so that America is not a falling nation for most of other country depends on American economy. Other countries including Asia, depend always on America including defense force and other economic ways. I still remember when America economy falls, followed all other countries for recessions, loosing jobs and closing business this is so sad during that time..

That is not a reason for not being a failed nation. Them being important is evident but them a failed nation? Well opinions differ. My opinion is they are halfway there with Trump becoming the next president. They will come in a big downfall. that's for sure.

Trump might be throwing a lot of radical views right now, but he will temper down if he does indeed become president. He is just playing to the gallery right now. He will become practical once he is elected.
I don't know, he seems like the kind of guy that actually believes what he's saying, which is a scary as hell thing.  I'm putting more faith in the checks and balances than ever before if he does become president... not looking forward to what his ideas of making America great again would look like.



Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: vero on March 13, 2016, 05:54:11 AM
Is America a failed nation? No, The United States of America is a powerful country with enough money to cover all of its population necesidades especially health and education (all classes). Because do not forget money for a second and think about the excellent health that could be all there, what would be the envy of other countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 13, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
Is America a failed nation? No, The United States of America is a powerful country with enough money to cover all of its population necesidades especially health and education (all classes). Because do not forget money for a second and think about the excellent health that could be all there, what would be the envy of other countries.
But please tell us who holds all that money you are talking about?
You are probably right about rich but this wealth is not distributed well.
Whole world suffering from the same problem.
But a majority of US citizens actually don't have their own money only credits and mortgages.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kingno.1 on March 13, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
America is not a failed state. Though in present scenario it is heavily indebted but it will come out of this trouble soon. It has huge army, huge power in UN and lot of resources.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 13, 2016, 05:44:59 PM
NO,America have so many debt,but that used for ther future,maybe if America investment paid for their debt,it will more than enough,as we know,so many American companies in around the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bitlancr on March 13, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
NO,America have so many debt,but that used for ther future,maybe if America investment paid for their debt,it will more than enough,as we know,so many American companies in around the world.

The debt is a big problem. And they keep on spending and spending. In the end they will see raising the debt ceiling is not fixing the problem but just a way to passing it through to other generations. Eventually they will have to pay the price for it. But does that make them a failed nation? No, it doesn't.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: MingLee on March 13, 2016, 06:23:24 PM
NO,America have so many debt,but that used for ther future,maybe if America investment paid for their debt,it will more than enough,as we know,so many American companies in around the world.

The debt is a big problem. And they keep on spending and spending. In the end they will see raising the debt ceiling is not fixing the problem but just a way to passing it through to other generations. Eventually they will have to pay the price for it. But does that make them a failed nation? No, it doesn't.

I would find it very hard for anyone to make a sound argument as to how America would be a failed nation, they have one of the largest economies in the world as well as being the primary influence in international politics.

If something was to happen in which America collapsed due to one of the issues like debt, then i can see there being more evidence for a debate like this, but there simply isn't enough legitimate content to discuss.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Jog4444 on March 13, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
Wouldn't consider America a failed nation.
Disappointing, yes to a degree. It has it ups and down. Its the melting pot of our place we call earth. :P
The economy is fairly solid I'd say.
Sad thing about Trump is that I see him winning the election.
I'm not a supporter of Trump (obviously) but think he'd be better then clinton.
We can only wait and see..

I'd vote liberal if it actually had a chance!

ta-ta for now


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: gentlemand on March 13, 2016, 10:21:54 PM
Much of the global population either wants to move there or blow it up. That sounds like a success in my book however you look at it.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: chesthing on March 14, 2016, 12:19:08 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Fuck you with that Obamacare ruined everything shit. Things started to turn when Nixon took us off the gold standard, our fate was sealed when Reagan showed how easy it is to put today's debt onto future generations. GWB sank the final nails into our economic coffin.
You want to place the blame? look at repubtards. If they hadn't fucked things up so bad, the US would actually be able to afford health care like the rest of the industrialized world instead of putting us deeper in debt and giving idiots like yourself something to bitch about.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: valta4065 on March 14, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
-gone-

Whaou, if US is and example of what the world should become I'd better die alone Oo
I didn't tell whole world just looks like US but some norms and rights can become example
 for EU and the rest of the world. I'm talking about equality of all citizens.


You mean how a rich can pay an attorney while a poor can't, how a rich can pay a doctor but a poor can't, how a rich can afford an education but a poor can't?

Yeah. Equality.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jak3 on April 01, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
I don't think America is a failed nation because if it failed then why every country is comparing their stats with America in almost every filed such as technology economy etc so I don't think America is a failed nation


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 01, 2016, 06:55:38 PM
I don't think America is a failed nation because if it failed then why every country is comparing their stats with America in almost every filed such as technology economy etc so I don't think America is a failed nation

Hmm... No country is doing that...
Science? You compare to Japan and France
Industry? You compare to Germany
Growth? you compare to Asia
Social policy and hapiness of the population? You compare to Scandinavia

The only thing USA is used to compare are mass shootings, racial violences and number of prisoners per habitant ^^


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: iram66680 on April 01, 2016, 07:00:03 PM
I don't think America is a failed nation because if it failed then why every country is comparing their stats with America in almost every filed such as technology economy etc so I don't think America is a failed nation
With all the failed mortages that resulted in bogus hedge funds in 2009, they are not recovered from that devastation as of yet. If Trump get voted into office then it will be the end of America and the beginning of Trump nation. A lot of Americans fear this future, so it will fail then.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: cjmoles on April 01, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
First of all, America is not a nation it's a continent.  Second, if the USA was a failed nation then you wouldn't have to ask because it wouldn't fail all alone.  Many other nation's success is bootstrapped off the USA's economy.  A better question would be: "Where is the USA located on the civilization bell curve."  I think it would be somewhere near the top but not over the crest.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: malzahar on April 01, 2016, 11:02:50 PM
I wouldnt say we are a failure.

I say we are more like behind or lagging you can say.. we got the potential to be great again if trump gets president and bail our the banks or some stupid financial move.



Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Sled on April 01, 2016, 11:17:26 PM
I say its not a failure because it still the warlord of the world in a military way but in debt it is one of the countries that have and the inflation is high.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 02, 2016, 09:41:23 AM
First of all, America is not a nation it's a continent.  Second, if the USA was a failed nation then you wouldn't have to ask because it wouldn't fail all alone.  Many other nation's success is bootstrapped off the USA's economy.  A better question would be: "Where is the USA located on the civilization bell curve."  I think it would be somewhere near the top but not over the crest.

United States of Mexico: called Mexico
United States of Britain: called Britain
United States of America: Don't dare calling it America



Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: BlueStackz on April 02, 2016, 07:53:36 PM
I wouldnt say we are a failure.

I say we are more like behind or lagging you can say.. we got the potential to be great again if trump gets president and bail our the banks or some stupid financial move.
The problem with them is not only the finance, but they are actually narrow minded, they can not fit with the advanced world, They have to trust on other nations and have to make themselves as a favourite nation just like the united kingdom and Canada.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: BTCBinary on April 02, 2016, 08:24:54 PM
The USA it is becoming to be a failed Nations.... I see a big regression in their politics, culture and society... Now, if a guy like Trump can be taken seriously, I guess the Nation is condemned...


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Yakamoto on April 02, 2016, 08:33:51 PM
The USA it is becoming to be a failed Nations.... I see a big regression in their politics, culture and society... Now, if a guy like Trump can be taken seriously, I guess the Nation is condemned...
There is a massive regression in every aspect of society in the US, and kind of in North America as a whole.

I'll also say that I'm not a Trump supporter, and I can't vote, but the thing is he speaks his mind and he isn't what people are protesting about. He's not homophobic or racist, however I can agree he is somewhat islamophobic. He was more pro-gay rights than Hillary before 2012, and only wants to deport illegal immigrants from the country. This doesn't mean all Mexicans. He's even said they can come back legally. But whatever, I guess you can't argue with what is said without being a racist bigot.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: romero121 on April 03, 2016, 03:46:44 AM
The USA it is becoming to be a failed Nations.... I see a big regression in their politics, culture and society... Now, if a guy like Trump can be taken seriously, I guess the Nation is condemned...

Due to certain issues taking place right now, it can't be quoted as a failed nation. These politics and other relative factors doesn't make flaws in their downfall. Only it might cause some collapse to neighbouring countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: arwin100 on April 03, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
I can probably say im neutral to that issue  because america long time ago and now is same retain his power for economy they are largest contributor of the economy in every state and country they have. Very strong defense, armies and hi-tech weapons and many country afraid to not obey america. Because its contribution to economy. But let see how it goes for this election comes and how be the next leader lead the america.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 03, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
What happened to the USSR during the 1980s is occurring with the United States right now.

During the early 1980s, there was a sharp increase in the population of the non-productive population groups in the USSR (Uzbeks, Tadzhiks, Azeris, Chechens, Daghestanis.etc), while the population of the productive groups remained stable (Russians, Ukrainians, Balts, Moldvins, Mordvins, Chuvash.etc). The pressure exerted by the non-productive groups became too large for the others to neutralize, and as a result the USSR collapsed. The same is ongoing in the US right now.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Blackmet on April 03, 2016, 07:06:44 PM
No it's not. USA is progressive country with good potential. People discussing politics but subject is america failed nation...


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pab on April 03, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
First of all, America is not a nation it's a continent.  Second, if the USA was a failed nation then you wouldn't have to ask because it wouldn't fail all alone.  Many other nation's success is bootstrapped off the USA's economy.  A better question would be: "Where is the USA located on the civilization bell curve."  I think it would be somewhere near the top but not over the crest.

United States of Mexico: called Mexico
United States of Britain: called Britain
United States of America: Don't dare calling it America



Most of Americans are recognising themself like a nation
Thay are totally not aware that thay are from Europe Africa etc
propably many maxicans will tell you i am mexican but never european americain
Ignorance between most of American citzens is high like Himalaya
Now thay even want to choose the biggest ignorant to be his leader
Thay like to be biggest ,biggest than others


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: techgeek on April 03, 2016, 11:11:38 PM
The USA it is becoming to be a failed Nations.... I see a big regression in their politics, culture and society... Now, if a guy like Trump can be taken seriously, I guess the Nation is condemned...

Its not just the US though.

If we are talking about stupid crony politics, its every political leader involved in their country that sets this up.

But yeah america is probably a #1 of that list lol.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 04, 2016, 03:06:03 AM
What happened to the USSR during the 1980s is occurring with the United States right now.

During the early 1980s, there was a sharp increase in the population of the non-productive population groups in the USSR (Uzbeks, Tadzhiks, Azeris, Chechens, Daghestanis.etc), while the population of the productive groups remained stable (Russians, Ukrainians, Balts, Moldvins, Mordvins, Chuvash.etc). The pressure exerted by the non-productive groups became too large for the others to neutralize, and as a result the USSR collapsed. The same is ongoing in the US right now.

It's terrible to see you trying to explain something so complex simply with a mere analysis of the populations of a country.

You're summing up things in a terrible way. You forget absolutely everything in fact, taking into account only a shitty argument of population ethnics.

What about global economy? Importance of banks? Change of resources?

No everything can surely be sumed up by an ethnical approach ::)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: goinmerry on April 04, 2016, 04:14:20 AM
First of all, America is not a nation it's a continent.  Second, if the USA was a failed nation then you wouldn't have to ask because it wouldn't fail all alone.  Many other nation's success is bootstrapped off the USA's economy.  A better question would be: "Where is the USA located on the civilization bell curve."  I think it would be somewhere near the top but not over the crest.

United States of Mexico: called Mexico
United States of Britain: called Britain
United States of America: Don't dare calling it America



Most of Americans are recognising themself like a nation
Thay are totally not aware that thay are from Europe Africa etc
propably many maxicans will tell you i am mexican but never european americain
Ignorance between most of American citzens is high like Himalaya
Now thay even want to choose the biggest ignorant to be his leader
Thay like to be biggest ,biggest than others

And because of the greed of reaching that top. A wrong leader could be chosen and maybe that will make them a failed country after that wrong choice of them. Regrets will be in the end.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Indrawan77 on April 04, 2016, 05:52:27 AM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: n0ne on April 04, 2016, 01:53:19 PM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 04, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.

You mean in growth of people believing Earth is flat? In growth of people believing angels are real? In growth of prisoners per habitants?

Cause I don't see any domain where America is leading... Except number of wars lost xD


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Wendigo on April 04, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
Americans know how to enjoy life I give them that. I don't think they are that much narrow-minded it's just the belief that USA is the greatest country on Earth which is false. Maybe they are just overly patriotic I don't know. While I do not like their government and the instigated wars I do envy their life style sometimes. I think we as Europeans live a much more stressful every day life and can't just relax on the weekends either.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 04, 2016, 05:16:41 PM
Americans know how to enjoy life I give them that. I don't think they are that much narrow-minded it's just the belief that USA is the greatest country on Earth which is false. Maybe they are just overly patriotic I don't know. While I do not like their government and the instigated wars I do envy their life style sometimes. I think we as Europeans live a much more stressful every day life and can't just relax on the weekends either.

Maybe it's because we're more aware of how this world is going to garbage. Which prevents us from being "relaxed" as you say.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Adhacker on April 04, 2016, 06:44:36 PM
I believe all this political game is more sophisticated than it seems. We see just a part of the pie.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: X-ray on April 04, 2016, 11:16:01 PM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.
they were failed in people's privacy and their generation who's just know celebrities than their own vice president,you should check it out on youtube and you'll know how's their young generation


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mrhelpful on April 04, 2016, 11:20:26 PM
First of all, America is not a nation it's a continent.  Second, if the USA was a failed nation then you wouldn't have to ask because it wouldn't fail all alone.  Many other nation's success is bootstrapped off the USA's economy.  A better question would be: "Where is the USA located on the civilization bell curve."  I think it would be somewhere near the top but not over the crest.

United States of Mexico: called Mexico
United States of Britain: called Britain
United States of America: Don't dare calling it America



Most of Americans are recognising themself like a nation
Thay are totally not aware that thay are from Europe Africa etc
propably many maxicans will tell you i am mexican but never european americain
Ignorance between most of American citzens is high like Himalaya
Now thay even want to choose the biggest ignorant to be his leader
Thay like to be biggest ,biggest than others

And because of the greed of reaching that top. A wrong leader could be chosen and maybe that will make them a failed country after that wrong choice of them. Regrets will be in the end.

The whole greed comment is sort of redundant when its any country.

But the ones I can recall people saying they are america as a nation would be super activists which are usually grass roots type of people.

I mean I call myself an american, but dont consider as a nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Laosai on April 04, 2016, 11:28:18 PM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.
they were failed in people's privacy and their generation who's just know celebrities than their own vice president,you should check it out on youtube and you'll know how's their young generation

What do you expect from a country that doesn't allow the new generation to go to school unless they're filthy rich...


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: romero121 on April 05, 2016, 07:41:10 AM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.
they were failed in people's privacy and their generation who's just know celebrities than their own vice president,you should check it out on youtube and you'll know how's their young generation

What do you expect from a country that doesn't allow the new generation to go to school unless they're filthy rich...

I don't think this to be a big issue to know about the celebrities than the corrupt leaders. It's not mandatory in USA that leaders needs to be praised unlike other countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: arwin100 on April 05, 2016, 12:18:13 PM
I dont think america is a failed country, yes america is struggling with criminality, but in technology america is one of most inspirational technology trend setter so i dont think america is a failed country

Exactly America is never a failed nation. In all factors of growth America is in the lead. Even in our bitcoin adoption they are in the lead. So never can consider it a failed nation.
they were failed in people's privacy and their generation who's just know celebrities than their own vice president,you should check it out on youtube and you'll know how's their young generation

What do you expect from a country that doesn't allow the new generation to go to school unless they're filthy rich...

I don't think this to be a big issue to know about the celebrities than the corrupt leaders. It's not mandatory in USA that leaders needs to be praised unlike other countries.

I truly disagreed with that americas a  failed country Because if america fails the economy will down. And f americas economy dowb many country and nation will suffer the chain effect remember those global financial crisis days. I think america is a successfull country because of its stand and high tech equipements, very good defense and economy.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: rovufarm1 on April 05, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
It is not a failed nation. It is just going down due its neighboring countries that wants to take them down. That is where you go when you are a strong nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: reuschman on May 21, 2017, 05:15:59 AM
I don't think that America is a failed nation. You have to be more specific about the issue why you're calling it as a failure. America is still the strongest nation of the world, they are dominating every aspect of daily life.
So I don't agree with you on this point.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ekoice on May 21, 2017, 05:48:15 AM
Until now,Americe is not a failed nation.But it may get failed in the near future.On one day sure,dollar is going to collapse and economic crisis is going to occur.Already america has the largest debt. Lot of unemployment problems.Dollar is in its final stage as global reserve currency and when its replaced,collapse would start.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: SingAlong on May 21, 2017, 09:50:09 AM
I think the question needs to be broken into two.

Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.

Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.

This is perfect.
Amen
You nailed it!

What you have said is entirely true. The country has been wanting to promote democracy that it is as you said in fact is an oligarchy. It is dangerous really since America has great capabilities in terms of military and economy it really is on the hands of this oligarch to decide whether they will start to shake the world by means of war or anything.

Meanwhile, its people are great and love their nation greatly. They strive to be better of themselves. They really have taken the humanity in a whole new level. It really is commendable.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Xester on May 21, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
I don't think that America is a failed nation. You have to be more specific about the issue why you're calling it as a failure. America is still the strongest nation of the world, they are dominating every aspect of daily life.
So I don't agree with you on this point.

America is not a failed nation since it is still on the top of the financial system. But there are many obstacles that will somehow turn the world of America upside down and if they are not careful they will basically encounter and economic breakdown. But given the new president of the United States who is Trump an expert in economics and business surely these problems will be solved during his term.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: swogerino on May 21, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
America is a great nation but the problem is their president is not ideal and adequate to lead them. His internal affairs together with Russia that supposedly helped  him to become the president of USA is not having a good impact on USA. Their president is under federal investigation , FBI is leading this operation. If they find that ties have existed between Trump and Russia , an enemy country then his presidency is not assured to continue. Other than that USA is great.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: AngelSky on May 21, 2017, 11:32:36 AM
America is a great nation but the problem is their president is not ideal and adequate to lead them. His internal affairs together with Russia that supposedly helped  him to become the president of USA is not having a good impact on USA. Their president is under federal investigation , FBI is leading this operation. If they find that ties have existed between Trump and Russia , an enemy country then his presidency is not assured to continue. Other than that USA is great.

Trump would be reason for the solid drop of the American economy but other than that China, Russia and Japan are emerging more than USA now. I know this chat would be fit for political and society. Still US financial system trying pull up the economy now with the blockchain technology and they had a meeting to tie-up blockchain with the US commerical department. There is no press release after this news.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: endenada on May 21, 2017, 12:13:14 PM
Maybe, this question has failed! Country is a national state! People is society and government!
WE LIVE ON LANDS OF THE MOTHER EARTH IN THE UNIVERSE!
USA is a country that succeeded technologically, what is causing moral failures!
If technology is evolution and god is morality! Well! 25 years ago they wrote: "America is hungry for god!".! The evolution leads but has to be guided by the god in order to avoid deviation from direction towards the good ((goodness, divine, god)). I do not think US and SU will burst as two erroneous stars! Bricks and rest of the world shall suspend and save it!
My vision is in completion of the history of mankind: Muslim Islam, Christian Capitalism, Communist Socialism, Divine Universalism .... !?!


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bouren on May 21, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Haters can say so, US is idol nation and the first to adopt democracy and modern civilisation. Even in present scenery, US is world strongest economy. One can argue debts but in real practice most of the debts are implied/implicit and doesn't exist in real world, they are just on papers.
It is not exaggeration that USD currently dominates the world financial economy.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Elcapsono on May 21, 2017, 04:44:54 PM
Haters can say so, US is idol nation and the first to adopt democracy and modern civilisation. Even in present scenery, US is world strongest economy. One can argue debts but in real practice most of the debts are implied/implicit and doesn't exist in real world, they are just on papers.
It is not exaggeration that USD currently dominates the world financial economy.
Well, I do not know how to react to your words and therefore I do not think that you correctly described the relationship of all countries to the dollar. The United States created such an economy and its national currency at that level that it has a huge weight all over the world. The fact is that practically the economy of each country depends on the dollar exchange rate.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kemarit on May 21, 2017, 05:35:38 PM
Haters can say so, US is idol nation and the first to adopt democracy and modern civilisation. Even in present scenery, US is world strongest economy. One can argue debts but in real practice most of the debts are implied/implicit and doesn't exist in real world, they are just on papers.
It is not exaggeration that USD currently dominates the world financial economy.

Personally, I don't look at USA as a failed state.

And to considered a nation to be failing, I think the most telling blow would be if the people has loss confidence in its institutions. The rule of law, protection of citizens' liberty and privacy. Do you guys not enjoying either one of them?
The economy is economy is growing faster than much of the world's and with far lower unemployment. US even suffered and survived 9/11 and recovered. I'm not an American but this is how I perceived USA it is the most successful nation and not failing.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: cjmoles on May 21, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
The United States of America is the most successful country on the planet....period.  While its current president has obviously been compromised by the Russian kleptocracy, that situation will quickly be remedied by the American people.  I believe we can have faith that the American people will hold Russia to account for their actions and the world will be a better place as a consequence.  The United States will seek to end Russian kleptocracy after this attack....mark my words!  The Russian people deserve an honest representation in the world....good will prevail.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pettuh4 on May 21, 2017, 09:33:40 PM
It's never a failed nation because it has the highest debt stock because in their indebtedness they give to others more than any nation do in effect they are very successful because it takes a blessed person to bless others.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Jingjess on May 22, 2017, 02:46:56 AM
I dont think that America is a failed nation in fact america is a great nation because they are all lead in all aspects...economy,standards of living...America is one of my greatest dream to live for because most of the people there are very sucessful..the government has good leadership.
 


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: maxpowerzz92 on May 22, 2017, 03:48:23 AM
The foundations of the United States as a great nation are still intact for now.  The problem lies with the current generation of leaders who no longer represent the moderate/centrist views of a majority of Americans.

The extremes are exerting more influence on the right & left so that there is no longer any room for compromise.  Blue Dog Democrats are just an example of a centrist political group in decline.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Pemburu1 on May 22, 2017, 05:26:33 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

I think America is not a failed country

A lot of success in America
example
Technology, education, the prosperity of its people are all growing rapidly.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: szpalata on May 22, 2017, 06:26:26 AM
America is arguably the most successful nation in the planet and has excelled in almost every facet of good livelihood and so if it's unfair to label it as a failed state by virtue of their debt. At least they have assets to show for those debts.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: endenada on May 22, 2017, 11:20:41 AM
hah .. we are afraid that good will dominate .. that is why are we allergic and sceptic on: good, god, goodness and divine .... !
so we expelled the word goodier and goodiest from dictionary and we do not allow god to be born in this civilisation ... !
so that goodness has no value in wealth and divine is pushed from the morality to the aesthetics ... !
evolution wants to be free, not necessarily to be good, haha, is devil providing us with the more freedom .. lol .. !
america was always our evolution plus, but it deviates to obessity, criminal, bonds/securities, profanitiies ...!
i am looking for the solution, soon, when i find it, i shall reveal it to you .. see you .. thanks ... zik zik ...!


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ayiranorea on May 22, 2017, 11:34:06 AM
America is arguably the most successful nation in the planet and has excelled in almost every facet of good livelihood and so if it's unfair to label it as a failed state by virtue of their debt. At least they have assets to show for those debts.
Though America has excelled in all the sectors, it is an failed nation in some form. Right now the value of the USD is decreasing which too is an failure in the economic development which is moving forward during the governance of Obama. In my view no country portrays the bad part of their growth, but few Asian countries show to the world their back side. This is the reason why people always say America is a developed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: megynacuna on May 22, 2017, 12:09:56 PM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: endenada on May 22, 2017, 12:17:36 PM
Usa is developed country comparing to the rest of the world, but down the river remain lot of pollution and failures in moral sense!
I see the only exit in a global meeting about "Divine Universalism" as the new required way to avoid deviations in the development!
Trump and Putin and their proxies and peers are leaders in our world's society but they are not guided by any divine (goodness) entity!
Let us say: okay, leaders, dominate!, but under divination's guidance! Are we ready to let morality (god) to guide technology (evolution)?!


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: btc_angela on May 22, 2017, 01:30:38 PM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

America already sets the bar high. They are still the number 1 economic superpower. And financially, they are helping other nations as well. So I think they are not failed nation. There may be some problems internally with them, but I don't think it totally affects USA as a whole. So for me, they are not a failed nation on the contrary, they are a role model for developing countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Reid on May 22, 2017, 02:14:27 PM
It is but will not be seen.
Every failure that had happened to that country is buried and will stay that way.
To people who dont have any idea what they did before being an American country, they look so strong for them.
But with those who have done their research with that country they know how bad it is behind every good it does.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: cjmoles on May 23, 2017, 02:24:04 AM
It is but will not be seen.
Every failure that had happened to that country is buried and will stay that way.
To people who dont have any idea what they did before being an American country, they look so strong for them.
But with those who have done their research with that country they know how bad it is behind every good it does.

So, is there a wealthier, more powerful, more free country in the world?  Russia, maybe?  LOL


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: yosakahina on May 23, 2017, 05:08:57 AM
 America is not a failed state, but I think it is also not enough to say the state is good,  US is now best place for living but for how long this is going to last.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: LilibethSantos on May 23, 2017, 05:20:02 AM
America is a nation that does immoral things, it is full of dysfunctional people, but it is not a failed nation. It is the largest empire in all of recorded history with military bases in nearly every country.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Przemax on May 23, 2017, 07:59:42 AM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

So it is a chief failed nation state amongs the leading failed nation states, that are the puppets of the banks thru the means of the debt.

Even more so, America is the role model that firstly a Tatcher copy pasted from Reagan and now even China does the same.

We are facing soon the rise of the neolibertardians that will be talking its all a fault of governments and that they should be a minimalised. New governmental bodies will be regional like NAFTA, CETA,EU, BRICS and so on.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Gozie51 on August 29, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
America is not a failed nation in my view rather it might not be efficient in the things been done in the past. During the time of Obama and other president before, America use to give aid to smaller countries but I don't know if that has started happening now and others like scholarship etc


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Hydrogen on August 29, 2017, 11:52:36 PM
America has gone from being a country which prided itself on God, guns and the constitution.

To having a high percentage of communists & socialists that are offended by the sight of the american flag who want to destroy capitalism, freedom of speech, the 2nd amendment and everything that allows americans to enjoy rights and freedom.

There definitely is a strong trend towards america becoming a failed nation and losing the things that made it different from stalinist russia or fidel castro era cuba. Whether that influence can be resisted and overcome, we will see.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: speedy963 on August 30, 2017, 03:23:09 AM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

America already sets the bar high. They are still the number 1 economic superpower. And financially, they are helping other nations as well. So I think they are not failed nation. There may be some problems internally with them, but I don't think it totally affects USA as a whole. So for me, they are not a failed nation on the contrary, they are a role model for developing countries.
Absolutely right! I think America has set standards or even it serves as a role model for every nation along and all over the world. In different aspects they serve as the head for all the countries, and been helping other nations in times of needs and troubles. In economic terms also they lead, but so far so many issues are involved with them.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jekjekman on August 30, 2017, 03:28:51 AM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

America already sets the bar high. They are still the number 1 economic superpower. And financially, they are helping other nations as well. So I think they are not failed nation. There may be some problems internally with them, but I don't think it totally affects USA as a whole. So for me, they are not a failed nation on the contrary, they are a role model for developing countries.
Absolutely right! I think America has set standards or even it serves as a role model for every nation along and all over the world. In different aspects they serve as the head for all the countries, and been helping other nations in times of needs and troubles. In economic terms also they lead, but so far so many issues are involved with them.

I can't think of this thread of the poster that America a failed nation because what in the hell the number one super power country when it comes to military force be a failed nation then how much more the 2nd to the last ranking military power so they are more failure than the number one?

You can't really tell if they are really in debt or what because you are not the treasurer of the united states maybe they are just showing that they are in debt for a political purpose to show that they are in trouble were the truth is not really, mind games in their part I think.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Scorpion on August 30, 2017, 06:43:54 AM

Things do look abysmal with how things are going currently and the path we seem to be taking, over the decades we made so much progress and it seems we've taken a wrong turn. I don't think we're a failed nation though because we see a lot of resistance to status quo now and people are saying, 'THIS ISN'T RIGHT!' marching and protesting on the street too. So I think there will be a rebound from all of this.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: TheGreatPython on August 31, 2017, 05:52:27 AM

Things do look abysmal with how things are going currently and the path we seem to be taking, over the decades we made so much progress and it seems we've taken a wrong turn. I don't think we're a failed nation though because we see a lot of resistance to status quo now and people are saying, 'THIS ISN'T RIGHT!' marching and protesting on the street too. So I think there will be a rebound from all of this.
Talking about a Super Power country, it is never appreciated to say this thing that America is a failed nation. Ups and downs come on each and every country, but learning from your previous mistakes makes you a great nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Webetcoins on August 31, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

America already sets the bar high. They are still the number 1 economic superpower. And financially, they are helping other nations as well. So I think they are not failed nation. There may be some problems internally with them, but I don't think it totally affects USA as a whole. So for me, they are not a failed nation on the contrary, they are a role model for developing countries.
Absolutely right! I think America has set standards or even it serves as a role model for every nation along and all over the world. In different aspects they serve as the head for all the countries, and been helping other nations in times of needs and troubles. In economic terms also they lead, but so far so many issues are involved with them.

I can't think of this thread of the poster that America a failed nation because what in the hell the number one super power country when it comes to military force be a failed nation then how much more the 2nd to the last ranking military power so they are more failure than the number one?

You can't really tell if they are really in debt or what because you are not the treasurer of the united states maybe they are just showing that they are in debt for a political purpose to show that they are in trouble were the truth is not really, mind games in their part I think.
Whatever the reality is why the heck we are discussing America here? Even if they are in debt, that’s none of our problem. They are indeed failed in maintaining peace around the globe rather is involved in pushing people in wars. I don’t have statistics about their financial status, so can’t give any statement.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: iluvpie60 on August 31, 2017, 05:49:01 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Well, in terms of having lots of problems we sure are the winner for that.

Record debt, record bad economy, many people are under-employed. etc.

BUT, since we are such an economic powerhouse, we could get out of this debt.

Unforuntately, we have spent too much, that has to be controlled, many things need to be cut/slashed from government service or we will go bankrupt, and than EVERYTHING would have to be cut in that case.

We have to cut some things now so that we can havea ANYTHING later.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: TonixGaming_14 on August 31, 2017, 08:30:27 PM
I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.
They are protecting their self because they interest in invest their money and deal with their making as well their economic. The military is not strong but they supply their military to become superpower country than the strong country like china and Russia. I don't American is failed in economic in their government today.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Macadonian on September 08, 2017, 10:10:24 AM
This country is dead, with a dead politic and a dead economy. They make their money by spreading the war, stealing others nations and lying to the population

The US might resurrect itself with the embracement of the bitcoin. There are many users there.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 08, 2017, 10:30:34 AM
If everybody is saying the country is a failed state or a dead one, then every other countries in the world must have been buried then. I am not a citizen of the united states but when it comes to checking the excesses of other sates, American is at the forefront not that they are saints but if you consider the intricacies of other countries in some aspects, then you realize that America is still standing tall in the face of several challenges.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Coffee135 on September 08, 2017, 10:58:52 AM
It seems to me that in the OP says envy. America has no national identity. This is a nation of immigrants, but due to the fact that they provide the best conditions for specialists they hold in their hands the whole world and concentrate on its territory the world's brains.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: altgamerf4 on September 08, 2017, 11:12:06 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Dapallo on September 08, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
I think since the new guy it will be failing in a lot of things but in the side of economics it will stay high like bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: philipma1957 on September 08, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
It was based on slavery from the getgo when it revolted against England  only one state barred slavery Rhode Island So 12 of the original states had slaves.

This flag meant slavery for more then  697,000 of 3,900,000  people.


"The U.S. Census of 1790 was our first census. 3,929,326 people - - 697,681 were slaves. That's almost 18%. But the 1780s were the peak decade for the African slave trade with Great Britain as the number one trader, so there would have been fewer slaves in 1776"

quote is from bing search



I would say it was a nation based on hypocrisy from the get-go


https://www.united-states-flag.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/v/kvf254chfp_br_-02_flag_valley-forge-betsy-ross-13-star-heritage-series-flag-kit.jpg


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Dontme on September 08, 2017, 01:21:38 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

United States of America is the number 1 famous in the world, America also is the most largest financer of the army tools all over the world, America is the debtor nation, all I know is America is a Great nation But now they are fast going down. They are experiencing economy crisis. Yes I do believe that since obama control the government he do not care for it rather he ruined everything. Today they are starting again to rise up. I think they can recover but not absolutely they can try to come back again as Great America before.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: lidd0512 on September 08, 2017, 01:27:03 PM
you are really joking,most of the country leaders send their sons daughters and wives to america for studying,living etc.why dont they stay in their own country?people tend to earn money in their own country and spend in America.in their eyes ,America is the heaven in the earth.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Hydrogen on September 08, 2017, 01:29:23 PM
I think california and texas have both petitioned to secede from the united states over the last year. There are undoubtedly states who wish to split from the USA the way the UK split from the EU. That's one potential way america could become a failed nation if those states which pay greater revenue into the federal system than they receive from the federal government in the form of grants, welfare, subsidies, etcetera decide they're better off on their own.

The federal government being $20 trillion in debt is another potentially devastating blow which could eventually cause the USA to fail the way the USSR failed when it defaulted on debt.

America's traditional values are things like freedom of speech, innovation, individualism, right to bear arms. In many ways the united states has embraced the opposite of what its traditional values once were. That's another potential way the USA could become a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaysabi on September 08, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Fundalini on September 08, 2017, 02:03:52 PM
America isn't as great as it used to be. The government is rotting on the inside, racism is still there, a large percentage of the population is incarcerated and many more. I think the only thing America could be proud of is it's top-notch education and it's military might.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: FLoving on September 08, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
It was based on slavery from the getgo when it revolted against England  only one state barred slavery Rhode Island So 12 of the original states had slaves.

This flag meant slavery for more then  697,000 of 3,900,000  people.


"The U.S. Census of 1790 was our first census. 3,929,326 people - - 697,681 were slaves. That's almost 18%. But the 1780s were the peak decade for the African slave trade with Great Britain as the number one trader, so there would have been fewer slaves in 1776"

quote is from bing search



I would say it was a nation based on hypocrisy from the get-go


https://www.united-states-flag.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/v/kvf254chfp_br_-02_flag_valley-forge-betsy-ross-13-star-heritage-series-flag-kit.jpg
This is a fact that America is nation that is full of hypocrisy, they have been ruining world since they become super power. They have put every nation on fire and are just creating chaos in the world to the time they have came on the world map. I wish they just stop doing shit and start practicing peace.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ejanend on September 09, 2017, 04:11:25 PM
I think since the new guy it will be failing in a lot of things but in the side of economics it will stay high like bitcoin.
Well you are right mate because it is a well developed country and it is making more and more developments because it is now the words most popular country and the use of the bitcoin is higher in America than in another country so I think as the bitcoin taking progress the country is getting more popular and it is not going to drop ever and never going to be failed.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: alyssa85 on September 09, 2017, 04:14:11 PM
America isn't as great as it used to be. The government is rotting on the inside, racism is still there, a large percentage of the population is incarcerated and many more. I think the only thing America could be proud of is it's top-notch education and it's military might.

Actually America is doing great. Yes there is a whole circus going on around Trump, but the country is functioning, GDP is growing and unemployment falling.

The design of their constitution is genius, with many centres of power and a lot done at state and city level. So it really doesn't matter who is president, the whole thing just carries on.

In a way it's a anti-fragile nation - you can't break it.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: deisik on September 11, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.

I'd rather say it is arguably right

It doesn't really matter if Murrica is technically the largest debtor on the block. We should always face the facts without bias or prejudice (at least, as much as possible). And the first fact is that the US national debt is denominated in the same US dollars that the US government (the Fed, more specifically) happens to print. So this debt is entirely nominal. The second fact is that this debt (at least, the part which is held by foreign holders like the Gulf sheikhs, Japanese banks, Russian oligarchs, and Chinese nouveaux riches, to name a few) is not a debt at all. It is in fact a sort of toll that these nations pay to Murrica for being allowed to be what they are. It is just a handy and useful misnomer but we are not to be deceived into that shit, right?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: BingoDog on September 11, 2017, 09:50:23 AM
I wouldn't say that, it's too hard statement. But the fact is that America has special status comparing to other states in the world and maybe US citizens live in some kind of cloud. Because of that it sometimes looks that this is the state you simply can't destory and that is going to last forever but it's actually fragile like all others. But the worlds' politics will always keep it under water and US debts will probably never be paid.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: MiF on September 11, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
you are really joking,most of the country leaders send their sons daughters and wives to america for studying,living etc.why dont they stay in their own country?people tend to earn money in their own country and spend in America.in their eyes ,America is the heaven in the earth.

Agreed, in fact lot of nations are receiving huge help from America from huminatarian aid, foods, medicine, arms and money. America have the most help provided in the whole word plus they have the most advance technology and system.If America is a failed nation then it will not be respected by most countries in the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Prettyme on September 11, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
I don't think america as a failed nation. If it is a failed nation, why most people talk about various incidents talking place in america.
Why they all compare their countries growth along with america in terms of economy, education as well technology.
I strongly agree with your thoughts because America has been still survive with the problems they are facing so I think America is a tough country. We can't deny that a lot of people want to become citizen of America so I don't think that America is a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: syaripudin on September 12, 2017, 01:21:50 PM
America is an adigrivate country that many other countries for adoption in various fields to the American state in any sector. In the United States I am a country that has a lot of cooperation in terms of industry, especially in the field of technology. can not be denied that until now technological developments that occurred in my country can not be separated from the role of the United States that continue to supply the needs of technology for industrial needs. so what you say is I really do not understand. If America is a failed state of course, the country will not be known in many countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: EkarlTotanes on September 13, 2017, 02:14:57 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

i think we should answer ia yes because america is one of the richest country


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ariel11 on September 13, 2017, 03:19:04 AM
Is America a failed nation?

No I think america is not a failed nation, as you can see america is one of the most riches country in the entire universe that why many people want to become cetizen in the US, and US also powerful country


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: kidsuzudn on September 13, 2017, 03:25:50 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

Hmmm, i think you have a big problem about racist with black people. All these problems happened with all presidents like Bush , Nixon, why you didn't talk about it ? Obama is a peaceful man, he doesn't want war to develop the economics. War makes people becomes homeless, pain and losing their husband, their wife or their son. Obama's care is the best medical services for Americans and it improves that Obama is a really nice person want peace. So i think he did his best at USA by his way. He didn't fail at all.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaysabi on September 13, 2017, 03:34:59 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.

I'd rather say it is arguably right

It doesn't really matter if Murrica is technically the largest debtor on the block. We should always face the facts without bias or prejudice (at least, as much as possible). And the first fact is that the US national debt is denominated in the same US dollars that the US government (the Fed, more specifically) happens to print. So this debt is entirely nominal. The second fact is that this debt (at least, the part which is held by foreign holders like the Gulf sheikhs, Japanese banks, Russian oligarchs, and Chinese nouveaux riches, to name a few) is not a debt at all. It is in fact a sort of toll that these nations pay to Murrica for being allowed to be what they are. It is just a handy and useful misnomer but we are not to be deceived into that shit, right?

You're just actively looking for reasons to disagree now. The debt is not nominal. Anyone with a cursory understanding of economics understands that printing money to pay off the debt would tank the currency, thereby destroying the value that's supposed to be repaid, and probably tanking the world economy in the process since so much of the world's saved value is denominated in the currency that would thereby be destroyed. Every nation that's tried to pay off their national debt by printing money has found out how not nominal the debt turns out to be. And even if you want to persist in that notion, it's still a debt, which by definition makes America a debtor nation. Your second point isn't even intelligible.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: craZyLovE0916 on September 13, 2017, 05:05:38 AM
America is not a nation. Why does no one understand this?

America refers to ALL countries in the Western Hemisphere.

NORTH AMERICA plus SOUTH AMERICA = THE AMERICAS.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ecnalubma on September 13, 2017, 05:13:52 AM
I think no! They always monopolize power, economic, military etc. I think Americans are benefiting from it because they have all the privileges. Majority wants to live American dream, excluding me. I love my nation above all.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: deisik on September 13, 2017, 08:21:14 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.

I'd rather say it is arguably right

It doesn't really matter if Murrica is technically the largest debtor on the block. We should always face the facts without bias or prejudice (at least, as much as possible). And the first fact is that the US national debt is denominated in the same US dollars that the US government (the Fed, more specifically) happens to print. So this debt is entirely nominal. The second fact is that this debt (at least, the part which is held by foreign holders like the Gulf sheikhs, Japanese banks, Russian oligarchs, and Chinese nouveaux riches, to name a few) is not a debt at all. It is in fact a sort of toll that these nations pay to Murrica for being allowed to be what they are. It is just a handy and useful misnomer but we are not to be deceived into that shit, right?

You're just actively looking for reasons to disagree now. The debt is not nominal. Anyone with a cursory understanding of economics understands that printing money to pay off the debt would tank the currency, thereby destroying the value that's supposed to be repaid, and probably tanking the world economy in the process since so much of the world's saved value is denominated in the currency that would thereby be destroyed. Every nation that's tried to pay off their national debt by printing money has found out how not nominal the debt turns out to be. And even if you want to persist in that notion, it's still a debt, which by definition makes America a debtor nation. Your second point isn't even intelligible

In fact, I had always been saying that

So it is certainly not a just one-off disagreement with your point (so to speak). As I said, we should face the facts. Here, another first fact is that the Fed had already printed massive amounts of dollars in the past to extinguish or quell the subprime mortgage crisis. Did this tank the dollar? Not in the least, as you likely know yourself, for the simple reason that this new money ("aeroplane money") never entered the real economy at all to make a dent in the purchasing power of the dollar (you should know that yourself). The second fact is that owing in the currency which you happen to print yourself prevents you from defaulting on your "debts", as simple as it gets, i.e. you can't default on the debt denominated in your own currency (unless you are out of you mind, obviously). That pretty much means that being a debtor in such circumstances is inconsequential. I don't know a proper term for this, but the term debt doesn't seem to be proper here (pardon the pun)

America is not a nation. Why does no one understand this?

We are talking about Murrica


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Seansky on September 13, 2017, 09:55:01 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

For me I think that America was not a failed nation it just got many debts, that's all. Debts can be repaid in due time but the fact that america has the largest military ever and with NSA spying on everyone I wont say that it is a failed nation. America has proven a lot in the past and in the present and is still treated as one of the powerful countries right now and a country. At least that is what I think of now but it might change in the future.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Nascor on September 14, 2017, 12:23:44 PM
most of the things you mentioned are not true.. economies are mainly build on debt and credit, and America is doing a hell of a job in that regard. Can they improve other things? Sure, but we all can


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Webetcoins on September 14, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
America is an adigrivate country that many other countries for adoption in various fields to the American state in any sector. In the United States I am a country that has a lot of cooperation in terms of industry, especially in the field of technology. can not be denied that until now technological developments that occurred in my country can not be separated from the role of the United States that continue to supply the needs of technology for industrial needs. so what you say is I really do not understand. If America is a failed state of course, the country will not be known in many countries.
I think the circle of the bitcoin is not that small it is gaining more and more value. As much as America concerned it is not the nation only it is the well developed country so I think in America bitcoin is getting more and more famous and it is not failed at all but it is being more famous so in the future bitcoin will become the legal currency and it will increase the price of the bitcoin more and more.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bn88 on September 14, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
if your point is which country is good as military so they aren't a failed nation ? Look at North Korea. what do you say about this country? North Korea is against the whole world. They're still poor and self-sufficiency. Are they success nation ?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: superplus on September 15, 2017, 11:24:14 AM
I think every nation is a failure right now with their economic standards(fiat). If they can switch to a more stable economic system, like Bitcoin or gold standard, then they have a much better chance of becoming successful.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: deisik on September 15, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
you are really joking,most of the country leaders send their sons daughters and wives to america for studying,living etc.why dont they stay in their own country?people tend to earn money in their own country and spend in America.in their eyes ,America is the heaven in the earth.

Agreed, in fact lot of nations are receiving huge help from America from huminatarian aid, foods, medicine, arms and money. America have the most help provided in the whole word plus they have the most advance technology and system.If America is a failed nation then it will not be respected by most countries in the world.
America is helping so many countries in stabilizing their economy. Any third world country whenever hit upon by natural calamity, America does help them in recovering their loss but at the same time, on the other hand many countries are suffering in the name of terrorism. America does invade such states and kill even innocent people too.

Well, there seems to be quite a different opinion

Even Henry Kissinger (the eminence grise behind the American foreign policy for decades) once quipped that "it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal". The US is controlling the IMF (also known as the International Misery Fund), and through this fund, America is destroying the economies of the countries to which the IMF is providing credit lines. Anyway, you may want to learn more about the so-called economic hitmen


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kiweikoo on September 27, 2017, 04:48:42 AM
America is an adigrivate country that many other countries for adoption in various fields to the American state in any sector. In the United States I am a country that has a lot of cooperation in terms of industry, especially in the field of technology. can not be denied that until now technological developments that occurred in my country can not be separated from the role of the United States that continue to supply the needs of technology for industrial needs. so what you say is I really do not understand. If America is a failed state of course, the country will not be known in many countries.
I think the circle of the bitcoin is not that small it is gaining more and more value. As much as America concerned it is not the nation only it is the well developed country so I think in America bitcoin is getting more and more famous and it is not failed at all but it is being more famous so in the future bitcoin will become the legal currency and it will increase the price of the bitcoin more and more.
No I don’t think that America is a failed nation because they are far more ahead from the various developed countries in the field economics, technology, education and a lot more. In fact their governments invest money on the people to increase their ethical standard in the society. They work for the welfare of the people and society to become more successful.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: pugman on September 27, 2017, 05:08:34 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

America has made sure they always win and they get what they want, by black mailing or by arms, one way or the other.  Now that Trump is the president, God knows what will happen in the near future.  World war 3,if it happens, lord forbid, the chances for America to be replaced from being a super power is high because this time Norh Korea is well prepared and the nuclear weapons that they possess seems to be a lot of trouble for the whole world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: carriebee on September 27, 2017, 05:27:34 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

America has made sure they always win and they get what they want, by black mailing or by arms, one way or the other.  Now that Trump is the president, God knows what will happen in the near future.  World war 3,if it happens, lord forbid, the chances for America to be replaced from being a super power is high because this time Norh Korea is well prepared and the nuclear weapons that they possess seems to be a lot of trouble for the whole world.
Indeed, I dont think America is a failed nation, america has the superpower it has. They are even advanced in technology and education. Yet lets hope world war3 will never happen if north korea will declare of since they are already prepared for the world war.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mdripon on September 27, 2017, 06:04:28 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Is Not America a failed nation, they are very strong. because they have high level education, technology. so they are not failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: agentx44 on September 27, 2017, 03:24:16 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

No i do not think bitcoin is a failed nation because america is one of the greatest countries in the world so their no reasons that america is really a failed nation. America has a high level education and so many advance technologies. Even at the past America is not a failed nation they are still one of the greatest countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Transformbitz on November 05, 2017, 11:32:26 PM
nope, but technology wise they are one who manipulated in the internet. they have strong tracking device and can track down any site in the world they just want to protect human identity. America is helping other countries to make the world a better place.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Yanisumin on November 06, 2017, 02:00:47 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

United States of America is the number 1 famous in the world, America also is the most largest financer of the army tools all over the world, America is the debtor nation, all I know is America is a Great nation But now they are fast going down. They are experiencing economy crisis. Yes I do believe that since obama control the government he do not care for it rather he ruined everything. Today they are starting again to rise up. I think they can recover but not absolutely they can try to come back again as Great America before.


Because this is an issue of one of the best country in the history (one of the largest too), we can't have all the facts just by searching the surface webs and we can't just rely on the information on the deepweb (about politics and nation). We must feel and see for ourselves, specially those people who are residents of America if the nation itself is a failed. A nation is the group of people that is living there, and this nation will only rise if all of its people will rise.
Considering the factors, and the blames that's is being pointed out in the government itself, the useless printing of dollars for political reasons, and the controversy that the gold is missing in the fort Knox, makes it hard to believe that America is going strong.
If the nation itself is not true to its people and those who are in the position are seeing the population as a club and different species then we can conclube by just observing what is happening right now, that it is failing hard.
And the same goes for the other countries.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: newlone on November 06, 2017, 03:13:24 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

I do not think America is a failed nation, they are always great. The things you are seeing are just the surface, what they are doing and will achieve may not be known.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: aoihs00 on November 06, 2017, 04:00:05 AM

Okay now that depends on how are we looking at different country’s? According to the power of destruction they are having or according to the services provided within there country. If that is the case then I believe nation is not much successful because there most of the funds, taxes and all the stuff goes into military development. No matter what I think they are preparing for alien invasion! It could happen who know? Anyway, no offence by the way. But yeah development of country depends on whats going on inside the nation but not over the borders of it. Somehow they have managed both the things.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: chichigirl on November 06, 2017, 11:31:58 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


They are not, America is considered to be the popular, great or strong country. They are still capable of technology change. I guess they are not.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: reijusama2583 on November 11, 2017, 02:11:52 AM
Well for me I might say that the America was not a failed nation because it contribute a lot in different countries. America gives impact to everyone that's why many people are highly influenced by the American in addition America is a first world country, they are the one who create jobs for the third world country from that point view we might say that America is not a failed nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jaocoincrypto18 on November 11, 2017, 02:29:57 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


I don't think so that America is a failure. America is one of the superpowers in all over the world in talking of economics they can influence the world economy thru world bank, and military they can influence the United Nations for world peace in which since world war 1 they are maintaining the peace. Lot of people want to go to America because it is the land of the free and prosperity. Maybe you  just only seeing the negative side in which nobody is perfect including you country.



Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Jeremiesaranza on November 23, 2017, 05:54:40 AM
Big no no..because America is one of the largest and richiest country,it have a big investors..and during of war America have a luxury expensive weapons..


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: mixelalex on November 28, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
You do not respect the enemy - you will lose the war.  ::) You can not say this about any nation, especially since the United States is not just one of the world powers. Among other things, they invest a lot in development, in the same science.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: nagatraju on November 29, 2017, 07:13:00 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

I don't think so that America is a failure. America is one of the superpowers in all over the world in talking of economics they can influence the world economy thru world bank, and military they can influence the United Nations for world peace in which since world war 1 they are maintaining the peace. Lot of people want to go to America because it is the land of the free and prosperity. Maybe you  just only seeing the negative side in which nobody is perfect including you country.
I completely agree...The United States has achieved great prosperity and most people want to be related to this...maybe there are some shortcomings but they are much smaller than in other countries...let's just look at the standard of living and that's all it says


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Erkallys on November 29, 2017, 07:22:43 AM
They are for me successful in the sense that they managed to be hyper creative in the economical field, with the United States - America is a continent, not a country - now concentrating the biggest part of the world big companies.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: futuret on December 01, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

United States of America is the number 1 famous in the world, America also is the most largest financer of the army tools all over the world, America is the debtor nation, all I know is America is a Great nation But now they are fast going down. They are experiencing economy crisis. Yes I do believe that since obama control the government he do not care for it rather he ruined everything. Today they are starting again to rise up. I think they can recover but not absolutely they can try to come back again as Great America before.


Because this is an issue of one of the best country in the history (one of the largest too), we can't have all the facts just by searching the surface webs and we can't just rely on the information on the deepweb (about politics and nation). We must feel and see for ourselves, specially those people who are residents of America if the nation itself is a failed. A nation is the group of people that is living there, and this nation will only rise if all of its people will rise.
Considering the factors, and the blames that's is being pointed out in the government itself, the useless printing of dollars for political reasons, and the controversy that the gold is missing in the fort Knox, makes it hard to believe that America is going strong.
If the nation itself is not true to its people and those who are in the position are seeing the population as a club and different species then we can conclube by just observing what is happening right now, that it is failing hard.
And the same goes for the other countries.
Well I think America is not a fail state because still world consider that America is a super power country and America have still a very big hold on market trade Amira have very good relation with a lot of countries but I think America engaged itself in war which effect their economy so I think that weakness can make a problem for Americas because America spend billions of dollars war against terror and trying to use more money so America must consider this.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: readygoaw on December 03, 2017, 08:54:33 PM
Do not forget that the USA is the international country, the land where representatives of almost all nationalities live. And this is the force of United States. Brilliant minds come to this country, work there and improve its economy.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: james23 on January 07, 2018, 05:53:52 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

No, America is one of the largest states it is the one progressive country, they have a lot of wealth in all aspects,me to I dream to live in america


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Perseusallen on January 07, 2018, 02:02:02 PM
i dont think so cause nuclear reactor was Built in Chicago as part of the Manhattan Project, Chicago Pile-1 became the first man-made nuclear reactor with a controllable self-sustaining nuclear reaction.  This led to the production of nuclear electricity producing plants, a potential source of energy for human-kind without burning fossil fuels, if only we could design and supervise enough safety measures into such plants. 


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: work001 on January 07, 2018, 02:59:16 PM
No, it's not. Americans are just like other people. As great people say: "There is no bad nation, there are bad people." Everything depends on the person, but not on the nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ehab.co on January 07, 2018, 03:39:25 PM
It depends on the metric(s) you are measuring that country against.
In terms of GDP (a pretty bad indicator of success to be honest) then it is the most successful nation.

But in more important metrics such as education, health, happiness, America continually falls short. This doesn't make it a failed nation far from it.

But when you combine the metric of richest nation and compare it with the outcomes it achieves in these other areas which actually impact people then it is clearly mismanaging its wealth and that in my opinion is a fail.
Failed nation is a very strong term though.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: jesh2206 on January 07, 2018, 03:48:17 PM
No cause america is still one of the contender in the world when it comes to economy and modern society besides lot of investor's. Still trust america that can overcome they're. Crisis. America have a good relationship to another country because of the military service.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: pitiflin on January 07, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
US is not bound to anything and whatever comes in its way gets destroyed. More like the Roman's during the time when Gaius Julius Ceaser was to rule. Until he was stabbed by his own men, and Rome was on its path to perish and never recover. US can suffer the same fate just like the Roman's if harmony is not present in the world. Failed nation or not, if US falls, the whole world will be on its path to tremble and am afraid, that will be time of North Korea launching its missiles all over the world and we shall never rise from the dead.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sgenuine on January 09, 2018, 05:58:27 AM

Okay now that depends on how are we looking at different country’s? According to the power of destruction they are having or according to the services provided within there country. If that is the case then I believe nation is not much successful because there most of the funds, taxes and all the stuff goes into military development. No matter what I think they are preparing for alien invasion! It could happen who know? Anyway, no offence by the way. But yeah development of country depends on whats going on inside the nation but not over the borders of it. Somehow they have managed both the things.

Now America is a very developed country, it has an advanced economy and science. Calling America a failed nation is not right.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: izzabel on January 09, 2018, 08:33:12 AM
nope because there army is the strongest army in the world they are one of the most rich country in this world


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: natka on January 09, 2018, 08:40:00 AM
I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.
  America is not a failed nation? How strange it sounds. I do not think that this is true. America takes care of its citizens, honors the constitution and preserves its traditions. It worries about its subjects. I think it's a very great power.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ravenangel on January 09, 2018, 08:46:52 AM
As of the moment, America is still a strong and leader country of the world with it's wide market, no doubt it still stand as it is.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: johnalyn on January 09, 2018, 09:03:39 AM
I think America is not a failed nation because they are not basically a country that has no better community and I think they has a many plan that they just water to make in their nation that they can improve them self.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ricardobs on January 11, 2018, 05:23:20 AM
As of the moment, America is still a strong and leader country of the world with it's wide market, no doubt it still stand as it is.
I don’t even know why someone would be asking such a question whether America is a fallen nation… America is not a fallen nation, and they are still world power, and has one of the biggest market in the world. So my answer is NO.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Florc41 on January 11, 2018, 05:37:11 AM
I don't think so. Everybody has the chance to recover as long as the rulers are sincere and caring and the people respect and obey the law, a nation will not become a failed nation.  GOd is in control.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: 3la9l_kolbaCa on May 23, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
are you typing this from America?

I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.

America has a personality which is very strong and has dignity. The values that they have is well implemented that is the reason why they know how to stand for what they are and what their decision is. That is the reason why they are very successful in terms of economics and also their nation. They are not faild nation but rather successful one.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sharm2121 on May 24, 2018, 01:56:46 AM
How come that america is a failed nation? They have a good economy, good rules and best place. Failed nation doesnt have that good character, doesnt have good economy, we will called it failed nation if the that country doesnt have many people To live.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: EnricoGomez on May 24, 2018, 02:06:43 AM
No, I do not think that America is to be considered as a failed nation.
I mean seriously, just compare it to other smaller and poorer countries (no offense but it is the truth, right?) - so what do you deem to actually describe them as?
It is advanced on every field especially technologically and economically compared to any other else. Their education can be considered as the greatest which can support and bring many brilliant minds that can do wiser decisions and contribute to progress of their country.
America is not called a superpower country for no reason.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: nur rochid on May 24, 2018, 05:01:12 AM
How come that america is a failed nation? They have a good economy, good rules and best place. Failed nation doesnt have that good character, doesnt have good economy, we will called it failed nation if the that country doesnt have many people To live.
i agree with you, the economy in America has an effect on the economy of other nations, as we know that the United States has a currency that is used as the basis for other countries currencies. from that i think it is clear that america is a developed country with a good economy


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Danlopz on June 03, 2018, 08:43:35 PM
Big no no..because America is one of the largest and richiest country,it have a big investors..and during of war America have a luxury expensive weapons..

I do not think it is possible that America is a failed nation. The American system has some disadvantages, but it adapts to other countries they are much smaller and Americans will take care of it in time. Until now America is the strongest country in the world. Why do they all compare their country's growth with America in terms of economics, education, and technology?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Lehbane on June 03, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
America is a great nation because captain America is there now with the even gers and the marvel sure heroes!!! Just kidding.

America is a great one but due to changing of the leader, most people based their judgment on the leaders way of leading the country. They don't go to war because they know its not necessary... That's what I thinks so, they don't promote the breakout of war and that's great thing...


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: shield132 on June 03, 2018, 10:22:16 PM
What I can't understand guys is that in a world that's insane why America's to blame? You are free in youe choice, no one locks your abilities, so develop yourself. America has great economy system, see how does FED works and compare it to your countries (For me N1 is UK and it's unbeaten in good economy historically). This counry is great in anyway, they have technical progress, they rock music industry, can say the same about cinematography, don't forget military services too.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: gandhe83 on July 20, 2018, 12:46:04 PM
How come that america is a failed nation? They have a good economy, good rules and best place. Failed nation doesnt have that good character, doesnt have good economy, we will called it failed nation if the that country doesnt have many people To live.
i agree with you, the economy in America has an effect on the economy of other nations, as we know that the United States has a currency that is used as the basis for other countries currencies. from that i think it is clear that america is a developed country with a good economy
Exactly. I think so. America is an extremely powerful country in every field. It has a very fast economic growth and strong social progress. America also shows us that they have a global influence, changing all economic, financial, cultural and educational backgrounds. It is sure that America is strong, not failing. I believe so.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: alyssa85 on July 20, 2018, 12:48:30 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


If the Us is a failed nation, all the other countries of the world are even worse failures.

Also - there is no sign of "economic collapse" - their economy keeps getting stronger.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: drm on July 20, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
The people who voted no must be living in super duper deluxe countries who are at the top of the chain... ::) ::)


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: hotforblockchain on July 20, 2018, 12:59:36 PM

YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone


What do you guys think?


Your "analysis" is very shy / unclear and with very narrow view.
You are counting "Obama care" as negative and more over saying that it ruined everything.
In the same time sort of saying that the huge army expenses are okay.

There are ton of things US is done and is doing wrong, as sending money for Afganistan infrastructure which just was stolen there, billions upon billions. And in the same time US infrastructure is  in very bad shape. I could continue, but dont be so stupid and call out "Obama care" as the reason for economic problems.

Not to start with current Trumps absolute stupid trade war decisions, US will only lose because of it.


If the Us is a failed nation, all the other countries of the world are even worse failures.

Also - there is no sign of "economic collapse" - their economy keeps getting stronger.
14. trillion in national debt and you are saying that their economy is going stronger, huge import taxes will force companies out of US, do you think that their economy is getting stronger?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sweetwine on July 20, 2018, 01:04:30 PM
This country is going down, honestly.
Need a proof? Look at the national debt right now: http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Keep watching and see how fast it moves up. It is just sad. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next decades another country will take over the us's power and become the most powerful country.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Offece on July 21, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
you're clearly joking,maximum of the united states of america leaders send their sons daughters and better halves to the usa for analyzing,living and many others.why dont they stay in their own usa?people tend to earn money of their own united states and spend in the usa.in their eyes ,america is the heaven inside the earth.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: shunga on July 22, 2018, 02:56:57 AM
I don't think america as a failed nation. If it is a failed nation, why most people talk about various incidents talking place in america.
Why they all compare their countries growth along with america in terms of economy, education as well technology.
From the past decades, as we read  all the books  about the history of America, we will realise how great America is from their economy, technology and education and military. I dont think it is a failed nation. America have all the things that all countries want. A state that considered as a paradise place here in Earth. The enovation, modernization and globalization are proof that this country is powerful.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: tiurminator on July 22, 2018, 05:20:08 AM
You should see other countries too before make that conclusion.  If you call America (USA) is a failed nation than we lived in a failed world.  I am not American, there are a lot of nations worst than USA.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ava Duvall on July 23, 2018, 09:07:31 AM
I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.
Never a failed nation. a great nation like you mentioned a strong military yes with made mistakes but always standing for its citizens,protecting others. Name another nation as strong as the U.S.A..


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: santino11 on July 23, 2018, 09:10:55 AM
United States of America is not a failed nation but they hide so many thing to the world.
they are full of fakes and problems.
War is the basic economy of USA as it is their biggest business, weapons.
NO war will make their economy low.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Zicadis on July 23, 2018, 09:13:09 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone


What do you guys think?

This is for the citizens of America to answer but IMO I don't think it s a failed nation with all the above speculations and seeing you have brought this without proof to backup whats written this sounds bias to be honest.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: talenah kotang on July 23, 2018, 09:49:27 AM
I think America is not a failing country precisely america is an advanced country, their economy is good, their technology is also good and also their military power is strong.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: nightways on August 01, 2018, 06:03:26 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


If the Us is a failed nation, all the other countries of the world are even worse failures.

Also - there is no sign of "economic collapse" - their economy keeps getting stronger.
As far as US is concerned, failure is a little word. People would be defending their countries and that is natural but those who are educated and can differentiate between good and bad, they can even give a better opinion about their own country. Definitely our ray will not be of much importance to our but if your own citizen and countrymen talk about it, that would be fine.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: cityhall on August 01, 2018, 11:17:24 AM
No way America (USA) is a failed nation, look their USD getting stronger every day since Trump become president.  If you want to look a failed nation, maybe a few countries on Africa or Latin America.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Ajaaraan on August 16, 2018, 06:23:43 PM
On my own perpective, maybe you are right, it's because it is a well developed country and it is making more and more developments because it is now the words most popular country and the use of the bitcoin is higher in America than in another country so I think as the bitcoin taking progress the country is getting more popular and it is not going to drop ever and never going to be failed. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: iMark on November 22, 2018, 01:38:22 AM
I think America is not a failing country precisely america is an advanced country, their economy is good, their technology is also good and also their military power is strong.
of course! their economy is very strong, more than 90% of their people have a good economy, their industry is rampant in the world, their politics dominate in the world. of course it proves that they are the strongest country in the world, and they are not a failed country


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: wahyu wida on November 22, 2018, 03:02:06 AM
I think America is not a failing country precisely america is an advanced country, their economy is good, their technology is also good and also their military power is strong.
of course! their economy is very strong, more than 90% of their people have a good economy, their industry is rampant in the world, their politics dominate in the world. of course it proves that they are the strongest country in the world, and they are not a failed country
right, sometimes they don't want to be rivaled by any country, so they must be able to be at the forefront of the world economy. let alone the president is now very strong in the economy by looking at the background


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Lumi3004 on November 22, 2018, 03:03:24 AM
America is often talked about by other countries in the world, including the economy, the military, education, and also the government that is respected by many countries, I think that America is currently a country that is successful in all aspects. A little element of failure in this country.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: stoxalpha on November 25, 2018, 08:34:32 AM
This problem is not so extreme. The United States is not a failed country. For nearly 200 years, the United States has been the most successful country in human history. Successfully avoided two world wars, I mean that the two world wars did not affect the United States. In addition to the Pearl Harbor incident. They have the opportunity to grow quickly. The United States is a great country, but not a great country can be permanent. Although there are many places of failure, such as dollar hegemony, military hegemony and so on. But can't say that they have failed. They just don't want to accept the reality that the future will be surpassed. After all, a country that loves peace and solidarity is rising rapidly. This is China, and it has taken 40 years to catch up with the development of the West for 200 years.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: carlisle1 on November 25, 2018, 09:28:55 AM
This problem is not so extreme. The United States is not a failed country. For nearly 200 years, the United States has been the most successful country in human history. Successfully avoided two world wars, I mean that the two world wars did not affect the United States. In addition to the Pearl Harbor incident. They have the opportunity to grow quickly. The United States is a great country, but not a great country can be permanent. Although there are many places of failure, such as dollar hegemony, military hegemony and so on. But can't say that they have failed. They just don't want to accept the reality that the future will be surpassed. After all, a country that loves peace and solidarity is rising rapidly. This is China, and it has taken 40 years to catch up with the development of the West for 200 years.
SO you are a chinese?Lol

We cant rate a country just because of they’re longer in existence remember that ysrael and more other countries specially in the arabian side exist more than 2000 years to be proven

America pretending to be stable,but the truth is their credit in china is more than amount we could ever expect so i believe that they are falling of the government cant find measures about this


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Netnox on November 25, 2018, 10:29:55 AM
The federal debt is a bit high, but I don't know whether this is a valid reason to call the US a failed state. If you look around, there are a lot of other nations out there, who are even more deeply entrapped in debt.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: fauzan Ichsan on November 25, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
The federal debt is a bit high, but I don't know whether this is a valid reason to call the US a failed state. If you look around, there are a lot of other nations out there, who are even more deeply entrapped in debt.
I think a large debt is not an indication that the country failed, besides America, Japan also has a large debt. as long as the debt is used for productive activities, I don't think it is a problem


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Rhosadah on November 25, 2018, 12:49:37 PM
I think America is not a failing country precisely america is an advanced country, their economy is good, their technology is also good and also their military power is strong.
you are right the American country is a group of people who have genius skills in all fields, now all the cultures of the world are in America, by relying on the technology they have, can have a big influence in the world, issues issued by America are very popular millennium and have a big influence.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bajingluncat on November 25, 2018, 12:50:26 PM
I cannot declare America as a failed nation, maybe sometimes something happens that is not as planned, but I think it is just a technical mistake, if America is a failed country, maybe all countries in the world make the dollar as a reference or standard even from various fields in life, economics, education and others making America the standard, America is indeed a non-state superpower failed because there is really no country that fails, although sometimes many things in the field are not as expected


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: patarfweefwee on November 27, 2018, 04:39:36 AM
Say whatever you want but the united States still is considered as a super power. Alot of the countries follow suit on their civil laws, educational practices, medical procedures and other facets of human life. Although they do have their faults (which are alot) and isn't as enlightened as let's say sweden, the United States still holds sway in our lives


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: imToken on November 27, 2018, 07:50:03 AM
Why did such a great country fail? Although the future will be surpassed by China, the United States will remain the world's second, and military technology can even keep the world's number one. This two-hundred-year-old country has stopped two world wars. Chinese, Europeans should thank the United States.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sinkfish on November 27, 2018, 10:19:27 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


its not a failed country. US is being US, no matter how much debts they are in. there are many country do better than US, in terms of economy, education or socially. but still they are what they are.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: BagzMM on November 28, 2018, 06:00:06 AM
I don't think America is a failed nation for it is one of the most powerful countries in the world. Maybe there are some issues but it doesn't mean they failed.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: duoduoshigexiaozhu on November 28, 2018, 08:04:12 AM
Why is the United States a failed country? Your international knowledge is too small to be supplemented. The United States can only be called a selfish country. But because you are not an American. You can live in the United States, you will find that this is a shopper's paradise, the benefits of receiving goods through labor are very high, but the price of goods is very cheap.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: lordquanta on November 28, 2018, 08:33:30 AM
There is no reason to believe that USA is a failed nation on any parameter. In fact it is THE place to be in this world. It is the land of opportunity for everyone. That is why people have been moving to the states and making their fortune. US is the country which is maintaining more and more world order is in fact is successful state.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: gorodi on November 29, 2018, 06:34:30 PM
There is no reason to believe that USA is a failed nation on any parameter. In fact it is THE place to be in this world. It is the land of opportunity for everyone. That is why people have been moving to the states and making their fortune. US is the country which is maintaining more and more world order is in fact is successful state.

I am curious if the author of the thread has ever been to the USA (I guess, he calls this country America). This is probably the place, where even homeless people live and eat well.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: airdropcoin on December 01, 2018, 06:28:24 AM
No country is absolutely successful. The United States does not fail. It is clear that the United States is a successful country and countless Mexico wants to immigrate to the United States. But the place of failure is hegemonism. This will accelerate the recession in the United States. Only cooperation and win-win is the best way for the world to develop.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: newbie-hero on December 01, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
I don't think America is a failed nation for it is one of the most powerful countries in the world. Maybe there are some issues but it doesn't mean they failed.

Many millions dream to come to the United States and stay there forever. Curious, why do they want it is the USA is a failed country? Americans live much better than the other people.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bakkang on December 01, 2018, 01:56:46 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


I don't think so that America is a failed nation just because they are the largest debtor nation. I considered America as one of the most powerful country in the world because they have a very productive educational system which raise a lot of productive individuals that can contribute great from their economy. Other than that, they also have a strong military base in many countries in the world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: greeklogos on December 01, 2018, 01:58:39 PM
Why you call the United States as "America"? There are two of them south and north. I think you should concrete it by changing the topic name or people will be confused.
My opinion is that politicians in the US are playing their own game and think that they are better than others. The government made a lot of people over the world to suffer and I do not like their outside politic at all.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: sirminesalot on December 01, 2018, 08:50:27 PM
I think America is a great and advanced nation. America is very good in all fields and their government is so strong that there is no word of failure. failure and failure of a nation depends on the system of government and its people how it wants to elevate the nation's rank


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: ATMD on December 01, 2018, 09:03:31 PM
Considering its power, technology, and economics, I would think that America is a successful nation.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Dr.Osh on December 01, 2018, 09:52:10 PM
I think America is a great and advanced nation. America is very good in all fields and their government is so strong that there is no word of failure. failure and failure of a nation depends on the system of government and its people how it wants to elevate the nation's rank
I don't know, I don't pay much attention to the American country. however, in my country, the American country sounds so great. many think that America is a role model from western countries. however, I do not understand, I think that the American state is quite well developed.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: spongegar on December 02, 2018, 11:55:49 PM
The US is still a gold standard when it comes to medical, judiciary, governmental and even military sciences. Besides, almost everyone everywhere around the world wants to be in the US for obe reason or another. I don't think a failed nation will boast such an achievement. Maybe we shluld adjust expectations about how to view the US.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Nellayar on December 03, 2018, 01:46:49 AM
Why do you say that? USA is not a failed nation, it is develop country. Every states in America is developing and many Americans are living happily in different parts of the world. They treat as millionaires of every people. America is a well-develop country and it takes 50 years before a developing country reach their peak.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: bayu7adi on December 03, 2018, 02:34:00 AM
America failed to become the predicate of the best country because it could not unite with people of different religions, especially Muslims. Although the economy of Muslims has not yet advanced, but what is wrong with being able to give economic independence to Palestinians, and begin to stop feeding Israel with money


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Patient_Zero on December 03, 2018, 03:32:46 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation
NO:
Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone
What do you guys think?

The American country is too ambitious to be able to control the world, they do not realize that their resources are unable to support all American actions around the world, so debt is an alternative way taken by the American state, if things are not quickly resolved, economic destruction can occur. this could be the destruction of the world economy, because America controls the world of commerce in this world.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: Kurevazeyo on December 03, 2018, 04:01:45 AM
There is no reason to believe that USA is a failed nation on any parameter. In fact it is THE place to be in this world. It is the land of opportunity for everyone. That is why people have been moving to the states and making their fortune. US is the country which is maintaining more and more world order is in fact is successful state.
America has always been a leader in any case, so it has become a destination for many activities such as economy, politics, culture, etc. With any parameters, America cannot be called a failed state, because its progress is followed by many nations in the world and innovations carried out by Americans can change the world for the better.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: tadpole_bitfrog on December 03, 2018, 04:47:02 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

I think the US is still a great power. Donald Trump is doing his job well. He is bringing the economy to the balance and is taking advantage of the Americans.
The Chinese deserve punishment because they are manipulating the world of history and bad products.


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: zhanyiguai261315 on December 03, 2018, 09:34:06 AM
The United States should be considered a very successful country!
The people are rich and the country is strong, the government is very rich, the people are rich, and the people have money! There is no doubt a successful country!


Title: Re: Is America a failed nation?
Post by: warcarft3 on December 04, 2018, 07:16:58 AM
No country is perfect. In fact, the United States is the most successful country in the past 100 years. Countless nationals hope to get a green card from the United States. You may not know about third world countries. The social welfare of these countries is very bad and the United States is doing very well.