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February 22, 2016, 12:57:06 PM |
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USA largest debtor nation in history of human species Obamacare ruined everything Federeal reserve 0% rates Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation
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Largest military ever not going down without a fight NSA is spying on everyone
What do you guys think?
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February 22, 2016, 01:38:37 PM |
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I don't think america as a failed nation. If it is a failed nation, why most people talk about various incidents talking place in america. Why they all compare their countries growth along with america in terms of economy, education as well technology.
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February 22, 2016, 03:23:55 PM |
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I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.
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February 22, 2016, 04:33:21 PM |
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No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.
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February 22, 2016, 04:42:09 PM |
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100% the people fled Britain so they could be free from tyrants.. America is now Tyrant #1.
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February 22, 2016, 04:45:29 PM |
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A failed nation in my opinion, is a place where you not allowed to walk free and make a living. There are nations where all actions of people daily lives are governed by
the government. {The way you communicate and the way you act in public} I would much rather live in America than say North Korea or the Middle East. Yes, America
has some major challenges and it's economy is one aspect of it, but it succeeds in many other areas, and that's what is important. {Live Free}
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February 22, 2016, 05:02:30 PM |
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I think the question needs to be broken into two.
Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.
Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.
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February 22, 2016, 05:29:59 PM |
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it's not america it's the whole fiat garbage system that is a fail, the infinite printing the fraction reserve and all those crap that only increase the debts by trying to solve the other old debts
but it's also the only system that work easily and permit a huge liquidity for the government
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February 22, 2016, 05:53:53 PM |
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I don't think America has failed. However, I think America has a lot of big problems and has a long way to go to fix them. Most other countries also have big problems as well, many with much bigger problems.
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February 22, 2016, 06:03:39 PM |
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I think the question needs to be broken into two.
Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.
Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.
This is perfect.
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February 22, 2016, 06:14:03 PM |
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They just press new money and higher the maximum national debt platform.
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February 22, 2016, 06:30:31 PM |
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No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.
They all compare themselves to America because America is very good at marketing and has created a good image about itself.
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February 22, 2016, 06:35:41 PM |
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I think the question needs to be broken into two.
Is the US government a failed experiment? Yes. Absolutely. It began as a Republic, today many believe it is a democracy, but the reality is that it is an oligarchy. The purpose of the US Constitution was to keep government limited, and that failed. The US government is now one of the largest, most dangerous entities to humanity.
Are the people of America a failed experiment? No. Americans have taken humanity further than we ever thought was imaginable. Not only that, there are still a large minority of Americans who are intelligent (surprisingly), driven, hard-working, and innovative, and it will be these individuals that will create pragmatic, profitable, solutions to the failure that is the State.
This is perfect. Amen
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February 22, 2016, 06:44:10 PM |
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Too strong a statement, IMO. I assume you mean "failed state", which has a specific meaning. However you should consider moving "NSA spying on everybody" into the fail category. Fear comes from insecurity. Like the paranoia that leads to thinking everyone is a threat and must be controlled. Successful, healthy governments trust their people and represent them. Dictatorships spy on their people.
I also think Obama care is in no way a fail. Our healthcare system has consistently ranked dead last in the developed world. We pay far more for drugs and every medical service. Then we receive far less care for that money. It's not single payer yet, but at least we are trying to build something that measures up to the rest of the world.
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February 22, 2016, 07:09:50 PM |
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It ain't a failed nation, but a place which is under lots and lots of debt pressure and it won't be easy at all for them to get out of it... I see many countries and they are by for the most "indebted" ones I have ever witnessed... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 22, 2016, 07:12:22 PM |
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It America is so great, then to whom is it in debt to? That's curious. Or are they in debt amongst themselves? Which would be the funniest thing ever.
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February 22, 2016, 07:40:36 PM |
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are you typing this from America?
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February 22, 2016, 09:05:53 PM |
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No way America is a failed nation. Of course the American system has some weaknesses but compaired to other countries' they are much smaller and America will take care of them in due time. Don't worry mate America will not fail.
They all compare themselves to America because America is very good at marketing and has created a good image about itself. Right, the Declaration of Independence was a marketing ploy, just like all that freedom and liberty propaganda. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The Founding Fathers: The Original Mad Men.
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February 22, 2016, 09:18:35 PM |
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are you typing this from America?
I think the American people have self critism. That is the reason why America is the strongest country in the world.
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