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Title: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 24, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
Atlas, The Next Generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


 :o


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 24, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Wilikon on February 24, 2016, 04:50:48 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Us, not just him...

 :D :( :D




Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 24, 2016, 05:00:44 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Us, not just him...

 :D :( :D




True...revenge against all humans for getting pushed around by a hockey stick.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Wilikon on February 24, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Us, not just him...

 :D :( :D




True...revenge against all humans for getting pushed around by a hockey stick.




The Front Line Against Atlas...




Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 24, 2016, 06:21:25 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Us, not just him...

 :D :( :D




True...revenge against all humans for getting pushed around by a hockey stick.

the descendants of Atlas could very well look back in 20 years and think that their brothers from 2016 were treated not that good thanks to modern AI  ::)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: salinizm on February 24, 2016, 06:26:41 PM
Atlas, The Next Generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


 :o

it reminds me old science ficiton movies. but i am scare to death beceuse these androids would take posseion of us someday in the future..


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: arbitrage on February 24, 2016, 10:19:15 PM
How many people will lose jobs now? This is first i thought about when i saw this video.
Second, this one can carry gun i think? We are fucked anyway.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2016, 09:38:19 AM
How many people will lose jobs now? This is first i thought about when i saw this video.
Second, this one can carry gun i think? We are fucked anyway.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/motivationdemotivator.jpeg


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
Well, they´ve taken over much of manufacturing jobs, next it´ll be service jobs. What then for humans? This is something totally new, machines with AI. It´s quite advanced already, imagine how it´ll be in 20-30 years.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 10:38:24 AM
A 19-Year-Old Made A Free Robot Lawyer That Has Appealed $3M In Parking Tickets

Hiring a lawyer for a parking-ticket appeal is not only a headache, but it can also cost more than the ticket itself. Depending on the case and the lawyer, an appeal -- a legal process where you argue out of paying the fine -- can cost between $400 to $900. But with the help of a robot made by British programmer Joshua Browder, 19, it costs nothing. Browder's bot handles questions about parking-ticket appeals in the UK. Since launching in late 2015, it has successfully appealed $3 million worth of tickets. He is cutting into the government trough and lawyers' jobs. That's a double whammy. How long is it before the bar association and government get automated lawyers disqualified?

http://science.slashdot.org/story/16/02/20/1823241/a-19-year-old-made-a-free-robot-lawyer-that-has-appealed-3m-in-parking-tickets


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: mrflibblehat on February 25, 2016, 10:43:11 AM
Well, they´ve taken over much of manufacturing jobs, next it´ll be service jobs. What then for humans? This is something totally new, machines with AI. It´s quite advanced already, imagine how it´ll be in 20-30 years.

We'll all be artists and philosophers when they take over.  :D


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 10:52:13 AM
The White House, in a stunning report to Congress this week, put the probability at 83 percent that a worker making less than $20 an hour in 2010 will eventually lose his job to a machine. Even workers making as much as $40 an hour face odds of 31 percent.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/ERP_2016_Book_Complete%20JA.pdf


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: craked5 on February 25, 2016, 01:39:55 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.

Damn I thought exactly the same thing xD

I was like "WTF? Why are you doing this??? Where is da police?"  ;D


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: craked5 on February 25, 2016, 01:41:09 PM
How many people will lose jobs now? This is first i thought about when i saw this video.
Second, this one can carry gun i think? We are fucked anyway.

Of course. Jobs are meant to disappear.

Don't let big companies fool you, you should be paid more working less, because technologies evolved in a way to make humans work less and less!


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: eon89 on February 25, 2016, 01:42:03 PM
It's enough for the video to remain online. When AI will take over, it will see the cruelty of humans.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
People worrying about jobs...there will just be new jobs to replace the old jobs.

We used to have people who's job was to copy books by hand. They did not all die when it was automated. Telephone operators used to route your call, then it was automated. There was not a widespread epidemic of dying telephone operators.

As technology advances, we are able to do more. And that requires more people.

People used to wake up, spend all day either gathering their food or preparing the food or preparing to get through winter. Now we spend a tiny percentage of our productivity on feeding ourselves giving us time for tons of other things.

Technology will just ensure that even less of our productivity is spent on our essential needs.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: eon89 on February 25, 2016, 02:01:08 PM
People worrying about jobs...there will just be new jobs to replace the old jobs.

We used to have people who's job was to copy books by hand. They did not all die when it was automated. Telephone operators used to route your call, then it was automated. There was not a widespread epidemic of dying telephone operators.

As technology advances, we are able to do more. And that requires more people.

People used to wake up, spend all day either gathering their food or preparing the food or preparing to get through winter. Now we spend a tiny percentage of our productivity on feeding ourselves giving us time for tons of other things.

Technology will just ensure that even less of our productivity is spent on our essential needs.

Also true. Along with IT and the internet a lot of new jobs appeared, that were not necessary or known until that.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: arbitrage on February 25, 2016, 02:22:05 PM
Human jobs are not so important, new jobs will appear this is true!

This will be used for killing people no doubt. Perfect soldier, no questions just seek and destroy!
If you ask me i love technology. but story will be the same as for the atomic power.
Primary use will be for destruction!



Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2016, 02:35:27 PM
Human jobs are not so important, new jobs will appear this is true!

This will be used for killing people no doubt. Perfect soldier, no questions just seek and destroy!
If you ask me i love technology. but story will be the same as for the atomic power.
Primary use will be for destruction!



Humans are not used for most modern warfare anyway, other than being the guy 3000 miles away pulling the trigger.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: xslugx on February 25, 2016, 02:36:04 PM
People worrying about jobs...there will just be new jobs to replace the old jobs.

We used to have people who's job was to copy books by hand. They did not all die when it was automated. Telephone operators used to route your call, then it was automated. There was not a widespread epidemic of dying telephone operators.

As technology advances, we are able to do more. And that requires more people.

People used to wake up, spend all day either gathering their food or preparing the food or preparing to get through winter. Now we spend a tiny percentage of our productivity on feeding ourselves giving us time for tons of other things.

Technology will just ensure that even less of our productivity is spent on our essential needs.

Yeah but the amount of jobs created is ALWAYS lower than the amount of jobs destroyed ;)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: eon89 on February 25, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
People worrying about jobs...there will just be new jobs to replace the old jobs.

We used to have people who's job was to copy books by hand. They did not all die when it was automated. Telephone operators used to route your call, then it was automated. There was not a widespread epidemic of dying telephone operators.

As technology advances, we are able to do more. And that requires more people.

People used to wake up, spend all day either gathering their food or preparing the food or preparing to get through winter. Now we spend a tiny percentage of our productivity on feeding ourselves giving us time for tons of other things.

Technology will just ensure that even less of our productivity is spent on our essential needs.

Yeah but the amount of jobs created is ALWAYS lower than the amount of jobs destroyed ;)

Then create your own job. Lots of people did it and live more than comfortably.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2016, 03:27:29 PM
People worrying about jobs...there will just be new jobs to replace the old jobs.

We used to have people who's job was to copy books by hand. They did not all die when it was automated. Telephone operators used to route your call, then it was automated. There was not a widespread epidemic of dying telephone operators.

As technology advances, we are able to do more. And that requires more people.

People used to wake up, spend all day either gathering their food or preparing the food or preparing to get through winter. Now we spend a tiny percentage of our productivity on feeding ourselves giving us time for tons of other things.

Technology will just ensure that even less of our productivity is spent on our essential needs.

Yeah but the amount of jobs created is ALWAYS lower than the amount of jobs destroyed ;)

So, now that we have technology to create books we never made up for the amount of scribes who lost their jobs?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 25, 2016, 04:36:40 PM
Worldwide spending on robotics to reach US$135 billion in 2019

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160225PR200.html?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 04:44:25 PM
Those who think that new jobs will be created when machines have AI, pretty much equate their own brain with a vending machine -obviously.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: adverbelly on February 25, 2016, 04:45:14 PM
Atlas, The Next Generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


 :o

it reminds me old science ficiton movies. but i am scare to death beceuse these androids would take posseion of us someday in the future..

you are completely right .. these robots will screw whole the humanity because of the guy who treated them brutally in the video..


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: Wilikon on February 25, 2016, 04:46:31 PM
That dude at the end is a dick.

I'm sure the robot will remember him.


Us, not just him...

 :D :( :D




True...revenge against all humans for getting pushed around by a hockey stick.

the descendants of Atlas could very well look back in 20 years and think that their brothers from 2016 were treated not that good thanks to modern AI  ::)

#BlackRobotsLiveMatter



Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 04:50:53 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 25, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 25, 2016, 11:26:49 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: arbitrage on February 26, 2016, 09:08:44 AM
Humans will become redundant for many jobs. Robots can done many jobs better than humans this is obvious.
What is future here and for whom will be bright?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: valta4065 on February 26, 2016, 09:33:36 AM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Yeah but in those societies they mainly work for the army in order to fight the other alien races --'


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: valta4065 on February 26, 2016, 09:34:58 AM
Humans will become redundant for many jobs. Robots can done many jobs better than humans this is obvious.
What is future here and for whom will be bright?

The future should be a 20h work week paid like a current 40h week. If robots can do the job we won't need to work any more.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: arbitrage on February 26, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Humans will become redundant for many jobs. Robots can done many jobs better than humans this is obvious.
What is future here and for whom will be bright?

The future should be a 20h work week paid like a current 40h week. If robots can do the job we won't need to work any more.
Yes and no one will pay you not to works.
Those who stay without jobs will be hungry or will help rising criminal activities, in order to get money to feed hungry kids.
Only true satisfactions from this will have multinational corporation.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: valta4065 on February 26, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
Humans will become redundant for many jobs. Robots can done many jobs better than humans this is obvious.
What is future here and for whom will be bright?

The future should be a 20h work week paid like a current 40h week. If robots can do the job we won't need to work any more.
Yes and no one will pay you not to works.
Those who stay without jobs will be hungry or will help rising criminal activities, in order to get money to feed hungry kids.
Only true satisfactions from this will have multinational corporation.

They should. Companies and governments are greedy as hell, but truth is companies NEVER EVER earned more money than today.

Everyday they take more and more profits.

Maybe it would be time to think about paying the employees more too.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 10:16:27 AM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: craked5 on February 26, 2016, 12:11:54 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.

And this industry will create enough jobs to replace the ones it destroyed? ::)

I don't think so...


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
Well the programming and AI industry will skyrocket even more than in the present.
People will be free to think, love, create, discuss.
But I'm afraid this will also make us weaker.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.

And this industry will create enough jobs to replace the ones it destroyed? ::)

I don't think so...

Not just that one industry but all of the industries that pop up because of the cheap manufactured goods.

Look at Hong Kong, they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: craked5 on February 26, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.

And this industry will create enough jobs to replace the ones it destroyed? ::)

I don't think so...

Not just that one industry but all of the industries that pop up because of the cheap manufactured goods.

Look at Hong Kong, they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy.

Correcton:
Look at Honk Kong and Switzerland and Luxembourg and Ireland they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy as they're actually the 4 places in the world companies send money to in order to avoid taxes.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 12:35:36 PM
For the luddites, an excerpt from a fun little book that makes a good point:

Quote
Just as he lost sight of the beach and was deep in the jungle,
he heard a sharp scream. He stopped, cocked his head, and tried
to locate the source of the sound. Directly ahead, he heard another
shrill cry for help. Pushing up an incline and through a mass of
branches and vines, he clawed his way forward and stumbled onto
a wider path.
As he rounded a sharp bend in the trail, Jonathan ran full tilt into
the side of a burly man. “Out of my way, chump!” bellowed the
man, brushing him aside like a gnat. Dazed, Jonathan looked up and
saw two men dragging a young woman, kicking and yelling, down
the trail. By the time he caught his breath, the trio had disappeared.
Certain that he couldn’t free the woman alone, Jonathan ran back up
the trail looking for help.
A clearing opened and he saw a group of people gathered around
a big tree – beating it with sticks. Jonathan ran up and grabbed the
arm of a man who was obviously the supervisor. “Please sir, help!”
gasped Jonathan. “Two men have captured a woman and she needs
help!”
“Don’t be alarmed,” the man said gruffl y. “She’s under arrest.
Forget her and move along, we’ve got work to do.”
“Arrest?” said Jonathan, still huffi ng. “She didn’t look like, uh,
like a criminal.” Jonathan wondered, if she was guilty, why did
she cry so desperately for help? “Pardon me, sir, but what was her
crime?”
“Huh?” snorted the man with irritation. “Well, if you must know,
she threatened the jobs of everyone working here.”
Chapter 2 • Troublemakers
6
“She threatened people’s jobs? How did she do that?” asked
Jonathan.
Glaring down at his ignorant questioner, the supervisor motioned
for Jonathan to come over to a tree where workers busily pounded
away at the trunk. Proudly, he said, “We are tree workers. We knock
down trees for wood by beating them with these sticks. Sometimes
a  hundred  people,  working  round-the-clock,  can  knock  down  a
good-sized tree in less than a month.” The man pursed his lips and
carefully brushed a speck of dirt from the sleeve of his handsomely
cut coat.
He  continued,  “That  Drawbaugh  woman  came  to  work  this
morning with a sharp piece of metal attached to the end of her stick.
She cut down a tree in less than an hour – all by herself! Think of
it! Such an outrageous threat to our traditional employment had to
be stopped.”
Jonathan’s eyes widened, aghast to hear that this woman was
punished for her creativity. Back home, everyone used axes and
saws for cutting trees. That’s how he got the wood for his own
boat. “But her invention,” exclaimed Jonathan, “allows people of all
sizes and strengths to cut down trees. Won’t that make it faster and
cheaper to get wood and make things?”
“What do you mean?” the man said angrily. “How could anyone
encourage an idea like that? This noble work can’t be done by any
weakling who comes along with some new idea.”
“But sir,” said Jonathan, trying not to offend, “these good tree
workers have talented hands and brains. They could use the time
saved from knocking down trees to do other things. They could
make tables, cabinets, boats, or even houses!”
“Listen, you,” the man said with a menacing look, “the purpose
of work is to have full and secure employment – not new products.”
The tone of his voice turned ugly. “You sound like some kind of
troublemaker. Anyone who supports that infernal woman is trouble.
Where are you from?”
Chapter 2 • Troublemakers
7
Jonathan replied anxiously, “I don’t even know Miss Drawbaugh
and I don’t mean any trouble, sir. I’m sure you’re right. Well, I
must be going.” With that, Jonathan turned back the way he came,
hurrying down the path.

http://www.jonathangullible.com/translations/UK_Comnt040222.pdf


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 12:37:28 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.

And this industry will create enough jobs to replace the ones it destroyed? ::)

I don't think so...

Not just that one industry but all of the industries that pop up because of the cheap manufactured goods.

Look at Hong Kong, they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy.

Correcton:
Look at Honk Kong and Switzerland and Luxembourg and Ireland they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy as they're actually the 4 places in the world companies send money to in order to avoid taxes.

They are not very good places for sending money to avoid taxes. Especially Switzerland.

Places like Turks & Caicos, the Cayman Islands, Belize, the Bahamas and a few others are the best places for that. Ireland is pretty decent though.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: craked5 on February 26, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
Today´s worker basically wipes the asses of other people. Once robots can do that humans soon won´t be needed in the entire service industry. Manufacturing gone, services gone, what then?

Ever seen Star Trek or any futuristic show?

People do a lot of cool things. Things that are accomplished because they spend less time wiping people's butts and more time thinking up cool things to do. And with robots...they can do them.

Star trek or any futuristic show? We´re talking the next 20-30 years tops here. Manufacturing, services gone, what´ll be left for humans to do? Cool things? It´ll have to be entire cool industries. Inventing new jobs won´t do.

One industry will be...robot industry.

And this industry will create enough jobs to replace the ones it destroyed? ::)

I don't think so...

Not just that one industry but all of the industries that pop up because of the cheap manufactured goods.

Look at Hong Kong, they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy.

Correcton:
Look at Honk Kong and Switzerland and Luxembourg and Ireland they have zero manufacturing but are a vibrant economy as they're actually the 4 places in the world companies send money to in order to avoid taxes.

They are not very good places for sending money to avoid taxes. Especially Switzerland.

Places like Turks & Caicos, the Cayman Islands, Belize, the Bahamas and a few others are the best places for that. Ireland is pretty decent though.

No because those places are well know from the people, hence governments had no choice but to act against them and they're much more followed.
Whereas sending money to Luxembourg or Ireland is incredibly easy if you're from EU and Switzerland and Honk Kong are the most famous place to officially start your society without paying any tax. Though I agree on the fact that Switzerland is starting to do less and less but they still recover most personnal money of tax avoider of Europe. See the recent French cases.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 01:07:47 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 01:12:13 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Well to be honest what I had in mind was something in the lines of "I, robot". You know personal robots that you could buy to do your shit for you.

But maybe I'm think a bit too ahead.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mainpmf on February 26, 2016, 01:29:05 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Which is why government should be here to be sure that profits made by the companies are at least partially redistributed to the people :)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: gregyoung14 on February 26, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Which is why government should be here to be sure that profits made by the companies are at least partially redistributed to the people :)

I hate this, but i guess i became that cynical about the government that now i am absolutely sure that they wont even look at this. I just hope then that some major company players like Google for one will take this seriously.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mainpmf on February 26, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Which is why government should be here to be sure that profits made by the companies are at least partially redistributed to the people :)

I hate this, but i guess i became that cynical about the government that now i am absolutely sure that they wont even look at this. I just hope then that some major company players like Google for one will take this seriously.

They will seriously take the profits from it yeah --'


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 01:52:42 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Which is why government should be here to be sure that profits made by the companies are at least partially redistributed to the people :)

Yeah, because the government can't sleep at night worrying about the good state of the people.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mainpmf on February 26, 2016, 01:55:17 PM
So, when machines with AI compete with humans for jobs what will humans do? When jobs both in manufacturing and services are gone, what then?

I think they won't "compete"  with us but rather work for us. Help us have a better life. After all - they're machines.

So you figure that corporations that use those machines to get rid of you will somehow give a flying eff about you. And how are their machines going to work for you anyway?

Which is why government should be here to be sure that profits made by the companies are at least partially redistributed to the people :)

Yeah, because the government can't sleep at night worrying about the good state of the people.

I said "should" ^^
I said should because that's what a good government should do! Not the ones we have right now ofc :p


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 01:57:53 PM
The governments "should"^^ do a lot of things. But they don't.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mainpmf on February 26, 2016, 01:59:36 PM
The governments "should"^^ do a lot of things. But they don't.

Because they're corrupted assholes the dumb people keep electing.

But with the blockchain we should now be fully able to vote in a secure and safe way! We should vote our own laws!


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
The governments "should"^^ do a lot of things. But they don't.

Because they're corrupted assholes the dumb people keep electing.

But with the blockchain we should now be fully able to vote in a secure and safe way! We should vote our own laws!

Please, do be so kind and offer us a better solution. If it works we'll adopt it.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 03:20:44 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: xslugx on February 26, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?

Not the question. not saying it's a bad thing.

Problem is not technology development. The problem is WHO will profit of the technological development ;)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?

Most people don´t equate their own brain with automobiles, vending machines and such, so yes they have imagination enough to realize that now the competition from machines is going to be about jobs that require a brain. That is a whole new ballgame.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 03:48:27 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?

Not the question. not saying it's a bad thing.

Problem is not technology development. The problem is WHO will profit of the technological development ;)

Yes, because who profits is the most important thing when it comes to innovation.   ::)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 03:50:18 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?

Most people don´t equate their own brain with automobiles, vending machines and such, so yes they have imagination enough to realize that now the competition from machines is going to be about jobs that require a brain. That is a whole new ballgame.

We've had computers that compete with human brains for decades. It's only made us more productive and created more jobs.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: onlinedragon on February 26, 2016, 03:59:02 PM
WoW that video is cool tHe development of this robot have take ages. It's going so fast with the technology if they can create this now then what will we see the next few years. Don't think we can imagine what will be next.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
Ever used a microwave to cook something in one minute?

Why do you not prepare your meal from scratch (wheat, pluck the chicken, milk the cow, etc.)?

Are you saying that the microwave turning our cooking time from a half day to one minute has not allowed people to do more with their lives?

Look at 100 years ago...all of those carriage manufacturers and horse breeders and horse shit shovelers who lost their jobs because of the automobile (that was mainly reserved for the rich).

Now practically everyone has a car that has more intelligence than the rocket that took men to the moon.

What do you not have right now that cheap manufacturing could give you?

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE IMAGINATIONS?

Most people don´t equate their own brain with automobiles, vending machines and such, so yes they have imagination enough to realize that now the competition from machines is going to be about jobs that require a brain. That is a whole new ballgame.

We've had computers that compete with human brains for decades. It's only made us more productive and created more jobs.

All right, you make no distinction between your own brain and and a vacuum cleaner. That is eminently clear. Good bye.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
Manufacturing jobs gone to the robots, service jobs will go to them in the next 20-30 years at most. Which jobs will then be left for humans? Please don´t mention the plow and the industrial revolution, it´s not applicable, this is something very new, capable to take over SERVICE jobs.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 04:08:30 PM
Manufacturing jobs gone to the robots, service jobs will go to them in the next 20-30 years at most. Which jobs will then be left for humans? Please don´t mention the plow and the industrial revolution, it´s not applicable, this is something very new, capable to take over SERVICE jobs.

If every job can be done by robots....will we even need jobs?

Every need will be taken care of. The lifestyle of today's rich will be the lifestyle of the poorest human. And the richest human will be otherworldly.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
I think some people need to read up on something called artificial intelligence. Without that they´ll never understand how robots will take over service jobs in the not too distant future.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
In fact they´ll take over most of what humans are capable of doing. What will then be left for humans to do for bread winning purposes?


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 04:19:56 PM
More and more, companies are choosing to use robots to increase productivity while cutting costs.
Unlike silly humans, robots can trek massive warehouses without tiring, track crucial sales data over time, and even speak multiple languages.

Bots like these could signal the future of service work. In fact, the International Federation of Robotics estimates over 400 robots will serve as guides in supermarkets, stores, or museums by 2017.

As noted by The Wall Street Journal, businesses are now just starting to put bots in stores (though they're now more advanced, they've been in warehouses for more than a decade). Automation technology has significantly improved in recent years — making the bots faster, smaller, and more affordable than ever before.

Check out seven of companies automating traditionally human labor — from robot lettuce farmers to robot butlers. The future is now.

http://www.techinsider.io/companies-that-use-robots-instead-of-humans-2016-2


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 04:21:25 PM
In fact they´ll take over most of what humans are capable of doing. What will then be left for humans to do for bread winning purposes?

There will be the cheap jobs that can be done by a human cheaper than a robot. There will be creativity (unfortunately that requires imagination so some people will lose out on that one). Unless robots can mimic humans completely people will want human companionship/interaction. Not every robot will be able to fix every robot. There will be crew required for the spaceships who can breed and start new colonies.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: galdur on February 26, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Type artificial intelligence and robots in the address line then hit a key called enter. It may be called return, it works the same.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Slow death on February 26, 2016, 04:34:34 PM
robots can help us a lot, but I think it will be our destruction

to this day we are the most intelligent creatures and if someone create something smarter than us surely have problems


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Succubus on February 26, 2016, 04:44:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5ShvYrYnxo
Transhumanism is the future, soon you will choose which genes you like for your kids.
 This can be major jump in human evolution!


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2016, 05:26:15 PM
The term human may evolve to include all of the upgrades we gain.

With more intelligence in the world more things will be answered. Why are we here, parallel universes, time travel, etc.

More intelligence is a benefit, not a hindrance. No matter how hard our leaders are working to stifle intelligent thought.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: daarul50 on February 27, 2016, 07:58:13 AM
Atlas, The Next Generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


 :o
This robot really almost like a human being, of course, to the rise and fall.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: vixcious on February 27, 2016, 08:10:44 AM
Trevor Noah called it, in 20 years when robots take over, they will look back at this video as a reason to eliminate their human oppressors


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: criptix on February 27, 2016, 08:18:23 AM
Im verry happy about the situation.

In the future this will reduce the number of stupid people by a significant amount.

And with the free and abundant ressources mankind can start to do important things like space colonisation.

@galdur
Dont just read the first links your google search shows you.
That is not a good method of researching.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 27, 2016, 08:20:46 AM
Trevor Noah called it, in 20 years when robots take over, they will look back at this video as a reason to eliminate their human oppressors

indeed there could be a problem at some point with all these public experiments. a nice intellectual game.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: criptix on February 27, 2016, 08:24:59 AM
Trevor Noah called it, in 20 years when robots take over, they will look back at this video as a reason to eliminate their human oppressors

The only real reason why AI would kill us is either we pose a danger to it or we are fighting for ressources.

Both is rather unlikely for me.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 27, 2016, 08:29:02 AM
White House Economists: Robots Will Replace Low-Wage Workers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3oY22h3u0&feature=share


@criptix

if they understand that we controll them with their engergy they could be pissed.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: criptix on February 27, 2016, 08:34:26 AM
White House Economists: Robots Will Replace Low-Wage Workers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3oY22h3u0&feature=share


@criptix

if they understand that we controll them with their engergy they could be pissed.

I count that under danger but i think when times comes then a simbiotic life with ai is more likely.
I.e. an AI avatar for every human etc.

We will be so advanced that we will just choose the most efficient way to live.

Edit

Btw i dont believe we will have AI in 20-30 years.
We neither understand conciousness nor the human brain yet.
( we are right now just able to simulate 1s of 1% of the human brains neural network in 40 mins)



Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 27, 2016, 09:11:26 AM
Boston Dynamics - Auralnauts Horror Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAmyZP-qbTE

 ;)



Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 10:38:25 AM
Dan loves family.


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Elwar on February 27, 2016, 04:21:50 PM
Boston Dynamics - Auralnauts Horror Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAmyZP-qbTE

 ;)



awesome


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: adverbelly on February 28, 2016, 05:37:34 PM
It's enough for the video to remain online. When AI will take over, it will see the cruelty of humans.

exactly.. your sayings are definition of my feelings over this video .. i am so sorry seeing how human race can be cruel enough to insult their own made robots..


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: salinizm on February 28, 2016, 05:56:53 PM
It's enough for the video to remain online. When AI will take over, it will see the cruelty of humans.

exactly.. your sayings are definition of my feelings over this video .. i am so sorry seeing how human race can be cruel enough to insult their own made robots..

you are so decent then.. they can evn kill their own offspring..insulting a robot is a chicken feed..


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation
Post by: daarul50 on February 29, 2016, 05:41:26 AM
It's enough for the video to remain online. When AI will take over, it will see the cruelty of humans.

exactly.. your sayings are definition of my feelings over this video .. i am so sorry seeing how human race can be cruel enough to insult their own made robots..

you are so decent then.. they can evn kill their own offspring..insulting a robot is a chicken feed..
I wanted to make robots like that. However, I do not fully understand the science of electronics, if you have any references please share it to me


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: valta4065 on February 29, 2016, 08:47:33 AM
Manufacturing jobs gone to the robots, service jobs will go to them in the next 20-30 years at most. Which jobs will then be left for humans? Please don´t mention the plow and the industrial revolution, it´s not applicable, this is something very new, capable to take over SERVICE jobs.

If every job can be done by robots....will we even need jobs?

Every need will be taken care of. The lifestyle of today's rich will be the lifestyle of the poorest human. And the richest human will be otherworldly.

Well I'm ok with that but you gotta regulate the power of the company producing those robots man!


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: mOgliE on February 29, 2016, 10:53:36 AM
And I'm still here, waiting for the Knightmares of CodeGeass to become true and see the world finally becoming a big anime  8)


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: valta4065 on March 03, 2016, 11:11:29 AM
And I'm still here, waiting for the Knightmares of CodeGeass to become true and see the world finally becoming a big anime  8)

GOD!

You crazy bitch! It's going to be really hardcore the day we finally get the mighty powerful robots armies, and I'm going to love seeing this. But if that's what WW3 is meant to be... Damn count me in! xD


Title: Re: Video: Atlas, The Next Generation Robot
Post by: Buildabitcoin on March 09, 2016, 12:33:24 AM
Ingore the rudeness of the guy for a minute and focus on how this robot is actual able to balance itself when pushed wothout even a warning. Pretty impressive stuff if you ask me.