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https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin_Classic/comments/47zglz/ddos_started_again_have_a_nice_day_guys/ (https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin_Classic/comments/47zglz/ddos_started_again_have_a_nice_day_guys/)


In his own words:

"Just paid, I'm professional ddoser lol. Don't know why someone want to bring it down. Maybe increasing block size will decrease miners profit? I'm using bitcoin a lot but don't care about it's politics too much, XT had too fast block size grow rate which looks unrealistic to me. I think BIP100 is okay since it allows voting and also bitcoin unlimited also seems like good idea and looks simpler for me. If classic will fork to 2mb blocksize and it would be not enough then what? Next hard fork? I think protocol should support miner voting by design."

In b4 it's a false flag being run by classic supporters.

Also I'd love to know how much he's getting paid. Botnets can't be cheap.

that's one likely explaination

I recently converted my node to a classic node and I have received a total of 4 alerts from my hosting provider advising me that I was getting DDOS'ed and that they are taking measures to prevent the attacks from reaching my VPS. This is while my classic node was still synching and was at roughly block 250k.

edit: 5 alerts and am at ??? block while (most likely still) syncing.

Yup. My response is to run more nodes.

I hope it's worth your money, whoever is doing it! :D

bitcoin politics being lot more intresting this days similar to country politics. Can't get the point to pay ddos'er to down classic nodes. ::)

I'm not even surprised by this. It was just about time, now the next step is for him to say that it was Blockstream or Core. People are so easy to manipulate these days.

You've joined the dark side.

The people making baseless accusations should take a look in the mirror. The chances of a supporter from either side to be behind the DDoS are equal.

They're stalling progress and wasting our time.

Interesting Post  ;D

who cares? ddos who you want.

it was hard but we have a great scaling and dev plan now. bullish times ahead.  :)

Actually just posted a basic Anti-DDoS guide for Linux VPS nodes here:

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374919.msg14037105#msg14037105

If your nodes get hit, it would at least be interesting to correlate iptables Fail2ban's.

Basic Iptables firewall guide to follow.
  

More of the same. Non-Core clients will suffer from this all the time just like XT nodes suffered. I've had Core and XT nodes recently and I was lucky enough not to get hit, tho...

I was reading the thread on reddit. Someone said "we have to put food on our table one way or another". That's correct, but I think this is an extremely questionable way to do it. I also read the DDoS'er comment about p2p networks and IP crawling on the Bitcoin network... He seems to be quite knowledgeable. Why doesn't he apply this knowledge in favor of our community is beyond me. I'd be working for improving Bitcoin if I understood it at a deep level...


Interesting thread, I'll be sure to give it a read... :)

DDoS attacks are akin to white blood cells blindly protecting the body from foreign invaders. I still think bigger blocks are probably worth shilling for (whatever that means to you people). But in case I'm wrong, it's sort of comforting to know Bitcoin doesn't give a shit.  

IDK. :-\

Is he hinting that he is "employed" by some miners??

That's actually the most probable explanation. Anyone can pay anyone to say X, they do this all the time. That's what basically propaganda is. Not to mention that anyone can create an account in Reddit and say whatever the fuck you want to say.
All those guys that criticized r/bitcoin have made the alternative subreddits an absolute waste of time.

Yeah, sure. I'm sure your average classic nerd has 10k a month to drop on DDOS. Keep living in fantasy land.

Whoever is doing this has deep pockets. I would think that points to core.

Are you gonna tell me XT supporters DDoS'd their own nodes on purpose too?

If you're asking if big companies like coinbase , who clearly are way deep into the Classic drama to now come out without any results, are spending this shit ton of amount for their propaganda. That is exactly what I think

Core's supporters are pretty average pocket, who I don't think will be going for this shit. But well thats my speculation in contrast of your speculation.

Thanks!

Anyone using windows and running Bitcoin (full nodes or otherwise) might afford some additional protection by using a good P2P IP based firewall, such as PeerBlock.

- https://wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerBlock
- http://www.peerblock.com/releases
- https://www.iblocklist.com/lists

  

Seems the more you get invested into bitcoin, the more you need ti understand this aspect of the net.
Going to have little proxy wars because its impossible for humans to all perceive a issue the same way.

Can't you just change the user agent? How else would they know which version it is running?

Just the "economic majority" at work, it's a meritocracy you know. Innit?

what a numpty, bitcoin will continue on and this moron will eventually give up.  it will be  a waste of money in the long run

Whoever this guy is, he's not shy.

The attacks have more or less stopped on my node since early this morning (9 AM eastern --US time).

He claims to be able to carry out the DDoS attacks for a month once the servers are paid for. I am not sure how accurate this is though.

I am not sure how DDoS will help in the progress of bitcoin. If Classic is really better it will eventually win the miners and the full nodes' endorsements. On the other hand, if it is scrap, it will sure die by itself.
This is the beauty of open-source and a decentralized system!

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417651

Expect more DDOSsing to come. Smallblockism at its best.

To be fair, the 5-8 members of that circle jerk are equal opportunity haters of all derpish heretics with pretensions towards The Realest Bitcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/syRpqC8.png (https://i.imgur.com/syRpqC8.png)

For home user it might be probem because the internet will be down at the time of the attack. For VPS it is not big deal to be down ocasionally if you just run full node to support network.

The attack cost money + possibility of getting caught, so not worth it especialy when they can get down only about 10% of classic nodes.

You should sync with Bitcoin Core 0.12.  It is roughly 7 times faster than "classic".

I've fended many DoS attacks myself running Bitcoin Core on my nodes.  DoS attacks against bitcoin nodes is fairly common, and I doubt the attackers care which version you run.

Ah Mircea MP is always busy on the side.
Either way the forum is using 0.12.0 but avoiding DDOS likely means keeping the node on and off.

DDosing and censorship.  Are these the means by which Blockstream lives?

Regarding the cost - I wonder who is paying for this and how much they've spent so far.

More easy to DDoS ... when you can locate the whole ant farm.  ::)
Like gov. music industry attack napster ... server.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/8284/mMq9mi.png

with a 10GB local blockchain ?
it is not better !

and i don't see the 1/3 classic node on ... my (full 67GB) node.

so, no ... classic don't help Bitcoin network AT ALL. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img538/9000/tjHaqA.gif

Oh no!!! Not on-chain transactions!!!  ::)

If it ever gets to this mythical point of "node centralization" then the BTC price will be like what, 5k? 10K? You are benefiting from more people using the network anyway. So don't act like you aren't getting paid.

Enabling growth of the network / on-chain transactions also opens the door for the next great bitcoin "bubble" (price increase) especially if it is being used in such great transaction volume that 8mb+ blocks are actually required.

Limiting growth of the network is just insane... I don't get it. Do you want BTC to stagnate forever?

I've run a full node for over 2 years and had internet since the mid 90's.  Never had a single DDOS against me in all those years until switching the node to classic.  So yes they care which version you run.

what a crap. Yeah the ddoss choopa server provider or amazon.. :P

What makes matters worse, apparently most of those nodes are pruned nodes (if they're using the service that is being promoted). Basically, it is just someone/a group of people who wants to show fake support for Classic.

You don't need to do that at all. The government needs to make 1 phone call. So much for Classic decentralization. :D

Someone wants to down the fake support for classic? Damn bitcoin politics is quickly becoming 3rd world politics.

Some douche bag probably trying to roll out a new alt coin or something trying to cause BTC panic

fake is relative, there are real poeple funding these nodes...
its not as tho there isn't support for classic
there is MASSIVE support for classic. ~100.8 PH/s of support
its funny how no one acknowledges that.

 ::)

Massive relative to BU's support maybe  :D

With regards to the entire ecosystem its support is marginal at best.

You guys ought to run one too, to check out Xtreme Thinblocks.

Just set your excessive block size to 1.0MB  to
keep clear conscience and avoid being DDOSsed  ;)

The guy obviously knows what he is talking about, and we should consider his service as being legit. He even mentioned his payment structure " Such attacks are in tens of thousands range. 30-100$/day for simple sites on vps or shared hosting without antiddos, 100-500$/day for more advanced targets with antiddos clouds, it depends on how hard is to ddos it. Tens of thousands/month for advanced attacks, price depends on target, it consists from uplink bandwith cost (5-8k$ 10gig/month, this is what your ISP pays for internet), and my profit which includes cost of developing custom software (bitcoin crawler, game ddos with game packets, etc...) "

There are not a lot of individuals, who would be willing or are able to pay that much money for a DDoS attack. It is actual sad to see people with loads of talent, doing this kind of harm, when they could be doing so much good.

Mehhh, markets gonna market. 8)

Is it, or is it Coinbase?

Fortunately miners have no vote in a hard fork.  I note the fact that the support for "Classic" is so weak they have to fake it by attacking the entire bitcoin P2P infrastructure.  Those Amazon nodes makes a DoS attack on the entire P2P network due to the way sybil resistance in Bitcoin works.  The nodes will not connect to each other, because they are on the same netblock, but every one of them will make 8 connections to other nodes which people run at home on their ADSL lines and cable.  Taking up much of their bandwith, which they wanted to provide as a service to real nodes and SPV clients all over the world.  Instead their bandwith, which they pay for, is wasted on those Coinbase-nodes.

And I hope people stay away from mining pools which sabotage the field intended to be used by BIP9 to deploy soft forks.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! I'm happy to fork attacking miners off my network.

How many prongs can a fork have?