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Anyone remember seeing any threads on the main board before the ICO??
Anyone remember seeing any threads on the main board during the ICO?
Anyone see any sigs advertising IOTA anywhere?
Anyone know if a social media reward for advertising the ICO of iota?
Anyone seen any IOTA on exchanges?
Anyone read about possible consensus issues with iota token?
In a recent poll on here around 50% classed Iota a scam :(

I'm inclined to agree.

Why is an ICO that is not even released and is probably deliberately being held captive with no market access suddenly being pumped to 30x ico price already?

This seems like nxt2 to me and it's by the very same people that done this same scam on us all just a few years ago??

Can the same people really try it all over again??

Look at LISK - lots of advertising before , and during the ICO - can't go one page without seeing their ICO

Ethereum - advertised it and gave POW for distribution. Was available for sale for only 2-3 x ICO for months.

NEM - months and months and months of ICO time and advertising.

IOTA - I Own Tons Assholes - want to buy some at 30x ico?? already and can't even somehow get a gui to get it on an exchange. Why? because want time to pump and pump before anyone can really sell. So by the time they do release to exchange we all believe it is worth 30x ico price.

relax and wait for the first clone. it will be more affordable, and like Ethereum (pumped 2.0 IPO) slaying NXT (low spam 2.0 IPO) you will be victorious. unless, of course, IOTA is a scam perpetrated by the great bill gates, then the price will crash and you will be glad you missed the IPO.  either way, you are the big winner!

Exactly if you view this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1177633.msg13728624#msg13728624

pointed out to me by an anti iota member

You will notice the first person to post about this design and be working on it was not even IOTA.

Other people are already using this design.

My guess is that many people will wish they never saw the LISK ICO ads.

Let's say LISK goes to zero or just from the 6 million or so to 1 million in a few months. I wouldn't want to be known as an advertiser and promoter of the ICO where people lost their monies.

OINK, OINK, OINK

We will see what is scam LISK or IOTA :)

Hey banano. Nice to see you here. How are you?

Interesting your first EVER post on this board was in the ........YUP the iota thread.

Imagine...here you were in cyber space, you stumble upon this board. Next you stumble into the IOTA thread and your first post is in that thread.

Now you're here defending it.

Now i'm not saying your are a socket puppet shill for and insta ico called IOTA. I'm just saying it's very likely you are. It just seems to make sense.

But please keep discussing how IOTA is not a scam.

Fuckin' ban him!
see what he said?
He's trying to give away free coins (against the rules)
We got you now you slippery bastard!  :o

PS:
Scammy IPO not equals "company"

Meh, I've run out of interest to engage obvious troll is obvious.

So will only reply the truth right away:

DAG Coin proposal? That's Sergio Demian Lerner (of Rootstock) which has been a community member of IOTA since day 1. We had posted about IOTA before this, CfB had several chats about it with people who can corroborate it easily, hell Serguei  (IOTA's math PhD) even posted about DAG crypto in 2014.

Try harder please...

Now You Banananna prepare for a BAN you can not prepare for !

PS: nice sig LOL

EDIT:

WARNING PEOPLE:
The below comment by Bananao is [NSFDT] (not safe for the dinner table)

"post about this design"

Well, It seems he was first to post about dag design on this board ? as I said.

You are missing the point.

Who discussed using DAG crypto , who thought of it first,....all irrelevant. . The ico is a total disgrace in terms of initial advertising on this board. The distribution speaks for itself. It raised nothing compared to other big ICO's here and now because such a small % of the board heard anything about it or invested those few that did are trying  to milk everyone else for 3000% already. This is classic NXT tactic by the same people.

If you had any sense you would have issued another ico got more dev funds and put them to good use.

Best thing is get this token to exchange because the free market will decide.

No point trying to hold all the coins captive and try building a big pump whilst none are for sale through exchanges. Trying to announce 5 x in one day MS signed it with a bunch of other coins for azure - 5 threads on the main board in one day about the same thing. Then another thread dedicated to how many 1000% we should give a few iota crumbs out for.

This is deliberately being held up whilst pumping...you want to release on exchanges only after weeks of persuading everyone its worth 3000% over ico.

Forget about that.

1. Stop the spamming on the main board with pumping shit about IOTA

you didn't know the main board existed before or during the ICO apparently

2. Get it on exchanges and let it find a better distribution via the market ....there is no POW right? like etherium had? so the insta stealth ico is all there was.

No need to bring up that it looks like a scam. Just get it out there in the wild and let your actions speak for it.

It's not convenient when the same discussion is split among several thread. I'm attaching an orphaned branch of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1382460.msg14268142#msg14268142. It would be trivial in Iota, but so hard in Bitcoin.

I wonder how 300 users bought it then.
Looks like your premise is: an ico is stealth if cryptohunter did not invest in it.
And the definition of insta = 1 month is... interesting.

Ha - come on now 300. I was told 600 before. It's already decreasing. We will be down to the truth soon cgb , you and perhaps 100 others.

21 people in NXT 1  = a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of the board members back then.

300(probably less) NXT2 (code name IOTA) = tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of board members now.


There is no point arguing. Everyone can see the ICO was stealth compared to Ethereum, maid, Nem,

Even lisk has 1000's of investors and it's not even done.

NXT people should have known better. They should have tried harder than anyone to see good distribution on their nxt2 (iota) ICO.

I Own Tons Assholes - this is actually what someone said when asked how much Iota they own. I was told this is an inside joke with iota holders. They find it amusing that they can hoard it all and demand 3000% already before it's even out?

Ugh, what a boring guy... Anyone looking forward to the third season of Silicon Valley?

did you say " the third season of Silicon Valley"? sounds interesting let me look up what it's all about....google google...

oh...

"comedy series follows the misadventures of introverted computer programmer cfb and his friends as they attempt to scam it rich in a high-tech gold rush."

AH... i see what you did there.

Sounds like I'm watching in real time.

NXT - series 1

Jinn - series 2

Iota - series 3

what's the fourth series about?

Who writes them is it like a joint effort you and cfb? or just cfb and you give the foot massages whilst he focuses on the writing?

CfB doesn't even exist. I just made him up to pull of these schemes of course. Hell this entire forum is actually hosted in my backyard and 99% of the users are my sockpuppets to fool the remaining 1%. Even you are one of my sock accounts. Now I will login to 'your' (wink wink) account to continue arguing with me, so that it seems legit

Ah, a Guru arrives...with vast knowledge and history to present.

Oh, no need to be like that! swearing and getting all upset. This combined with your strange sentence structure is not a good place to be when trying to sound smart.

That's your opinon and you're welcome to it.

There will always be excuses. They won't help though because it's very simple to see you are leaving out factors that have a great degree of influence.

1. The effort made by LISK is far and above the effort to advertise on the board by NXT2

a - no sig campaigns - the most powerful form of advertising
b- no social media campaigns
c - lisk is already  pumping all over the main board previous and during the ICO - not a peep from iota (nxt2)

You seem to base a lot on opinion and little on facts.


Please try and contain yourself and communicate on an adult level. I'm just trying to help you.

Come back anytime you like to discuss with me here. I am more than happy to aid you in whatever ways I can. Especially on this thread.

HOWEVER - - since you don't support IOTA at all - tell me exactly what you don't like about it and why you don't support it?????This will be interesting.

Imagine a non supporter coming here to reveal other reasons (he does not agree with mine) for not liking iota?

I love how your trolling is:

"OMG These guys didn't pay for PR, didn't do any cheesy invasive annoying marketing, rejected speculators and only rely on the authenticity of the project and technology itself! WHAT A SCAM"

Heres thing tho.

Cryptos 2.0 - 3.0 are maturing & quickly
Evolving... Microsoft knows exactly
What time it is. bringing crypto
Innovation to mainstream/ commercial
Realm.. "adoption" is key...

New tech is here & major capital
flowing all through this bleeding
Edge innovation. shifting how business
Is done in the future, so that being said
 blockchain, smart contracts, sidechains
Tangle, iot will some day be the norm..

Ill be riding wave of all this new innovation
For some time to come..
Opportunity literally everywhere
If you knw how too look for it.

P2p360

 

They kept communicating in the ANN thread before, during and after the ICO, also they had some ICO topic as well. I haven't seen too much IOTA threads here on this board indeed, but CfB and his fans not used to shilling around on a dozen of sockpuppet accounts like some other devs and fan boys used to do. Personally I appreciate that.


Some Monkey dust quote turned up in my mind while reading about a "recent poll on here around":

" - Our poll of a thousand people in the east midlands reveals that 99 percent of them would rather be told what they want to hear, than be told the truth.
- Is that the truth?
- No, but it's what you wanted to hear."

BTW I'm not an IOTA investor.

Hehe yeah that sounds sincere. The love and the not wanting to invade us with annoying advertising ....although don't now mind spamming the hell out of the main board at all.

Plan alpha

 we hope no one notices the ICO much so we control it all the tokens and can then sell them for HUGE inflated prices after we pump it as being the nxt best thing to everyone else who didn't get any for next to nothing in the ico.

Plan beta..

If they notice we kept it all and made a lot less effort to distribute the tokens fairly than other ICO's have done......then we just say we didn't want to annoy them by telling them about it , Brilliant I love it.

We rejected speculators - wait hang on a few snuck in and here they are demanding 3000% already. Seem like speculators to me.

Authenticity of the lego processor that won't exist and a token that nobody knows if it will really bring any new advantages and can even work as you think. I mean let's just bluff our way through it and hopefully sucker some people in for 3000% hopefullly more if we can pump and pump before it hits exchange.

Stop trying to justify. Just tell the truth and move on with it. Put it on exchange stop pretending there are reasons it cant go to exchange Let it distribute naturally don't try to drip it out to people for hugely inflated rates.

Let's see it all tested and working first before demanding 3000% - 10000% ransome.

Seriously get help. I understand that you are pissy about missing out on a  huge opportunity, but you have an unhealthy attachment to past mistakes. Let it go

Funny, so they hoped that no one would notice this article from 25. october 2105, before the ico even started:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/iota-a-blockchain-less-gasp-token-for-the-internet-of-things

How come you didn't participate in the crowd sale btw when you knew about it? Didn't like the technology, or thought it was a scam?

Oh so it was a huge opportunity hey? so like a speculative investment is that what you're saying now?
Your investors should expect a huge opportunity that I missed out on? I thought it was a software sale with no expectations of a value increase.

It's probably the reason for people missing out rather than if they did miss out or not you should focus on.

where is it? where is this token....weeks pass...nothing. Why hold it up and not release it. Why pumping now without release?

It obvious why. The pump is far more effective where supply is very very limited and controlled.#

Get it on exchange and instead of pumping dreams , let your actions dictate price.

Haha, you're a sad figure. I wonder how you are in real life.

We're not pumping anything, you keep claiming we do, but we don't. Where have we made any new threads 'pumping' IOTA?

Where is the token? If you bought some you can use the network, in fact you could have for a long time already :)

I would be totally the opposite to what you expect. That's for sure.


 But why try to make it personal? This is the tactic of diversion. YOu have no need of that surely. Let's focus on the facts about IOTA.
I have nothing personal against you or cfb. It's simply not on to try and run the same scam twice. Not from the same people.

Well since you never heard of the main forum before the ico or during ... you seem to have found it now with threads like


WILL IOTA BE TOP FIVE NOW ITS WITH MS

WILL IOTA BE ONLY 10 000 SATS

come on don't play innocent. These are pure pump threads made by "investors" that should expect no rise in value.

Put it on exchanges. Save the pump and dreams. Let actions dictate.

When is it on exchange? which ones and when?? seems to be a big hold up with only pump threads to remind us all it even exists.

Let's all stop pumping and get it on exchange. Let more than 12 people use it and see how it goes. See what events unfold then we can say 500% increase maybe. You're all demanding ethereum price hikes and it's not even out.

Hahaha, you are blaming us for the increase in demand for IOTA? Dude try harder...

Hahaha - means you are very unhappy. Ask cfb he told me so.



No I'm blaming you for having such  a tiny distribution that if anyone else wanted some that is an increase in demand since supply its so centralised and so captive with no exchanges. It's almost like ransom money.




When will it be on exchange? hows the gui coming along?? what's the issue??

Thanks for not denying again the pump threads are blatant and have started.

Hahah, oh trolls, never change

Let's all move to Iota Unmoderated thread. It's boring to jump from one thread to another. More people in one place - merrier.

BTW, altcoinUK is there making cocktails.

Hahah ? why so unhappy?

that's your answer to the question of when it will be on exchange?

come on surely you can do a little better than that. It was meant to be fully released into the wild weeks and weeks ago.

Stop holding it back on purpose whilst pumping. Put it on the free market now before bitshares comes and becomes the first zero transaction fee project to go live. I hear they are almost there. Quickly quickly now.

Come on I know you can do it.

So when will it be on exchanges and which exchanges will it be on?

you mean like Quark ?

i know right.. like don't be Jelly!
Just go start your own scammy multi-million dollar IPO.
Don't bash MY pyramid scheme  >:(
..you'll scare away my victims i am grooming.

You sick pervert!

Come on cfb you can do better than getting personal.

You need to focus on the facts. Use them to represent yourselves and refute any claims made to the contrary.

Cfb wants  to divert from the facts and draw you into some kind of personal fight with them. It's too obvious and eventually they have to retire since they will not want to discuss anything factual related to the ICO.

Yes grooming people for the scam. That's exactly what's happening.

When is release on exchange happening. You did hear bitshares are almost there with their zero fee transaction concept?

Haha, BTS' zero fees got nothing to do with IOTA's zero fees. The use cases for Bitshares is entirely different, plus we already won that 'race' if there ever was one.

What you don't seem to fathom is that we TRULY don't care about trolls like yourself. Keep making thread #81551 that everyone just ignores because it's blatantly obvious that you lie. Get clinical help for your mental disorders.

Regardless of whatever the original poster is talking about, I don't see an IPO given to a handful (or really any amount of people) as a valid distribution method for something that's supposed to be a "decentralized currency".  The fact that Bitcoin never would have gotten off the ground using such methods means it's just not a valid idea.  If all IPO tokens want to refer to themselves as centralized companies, then that's fine, but the legal system is not very conducive to those going public from your basement activities.

Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).

So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).

No, please, don't do it.

I agree. Please don't spam the forum with duplicate topic threads.

When I post the same post to multiple threads, it is often because someone spammed the forum by creating multiple threads on the same topic. It is nearly impossible to have coherent discussion that is spread across numerous threads.

As one person that would make perfect sense - but as IOTA is not "one person" that makes no sense at all - does it?

Emm... Is my sarcasm so subtle that really needs <sarcasm> tag?

It's pretty obvious that the post was stupid, but it was stupid to such degree that it's actually very funny. So it's still valuable.

Well he is right.. i am a Pervert.
You should see my OT / Topic i made on the "up & cummers in porn"
Or my POLL on penis length.. or hell even my Bestiality topic  :D
Edit: I made one for masturbation too.

But the problem is.. Spoetnik being a confirmed pervert does not make IOTA "legit".

I also think most of these guys will wander off and go quiet soon enough.
Look at the 55 pages of people all ganging up on me with my "Why Doge coin is bad" topic.
I had an army at me.. trying with all their might.
I laid them out one after another (no matter how many times they got up & kept running at me)

What is more satisfying though is i am seeing other people say they do not like the current batch of popular IPO's.
in their own words with their entirely different reasoning.
It's not even so much a "for or against" thing me for me as it is a "let's share our perspective" matter.
People think i just come to Troll but i really just came here to talk about Altcoins.
And yes it is entirely possible i could change my opinions on things after talking etc (why i listen to you all)
It's not like i come here and plug my ears and rant on ignoring people.. I'm all ears.

@Come-from-Beyond
I just have one thing to say to you buddy boy!
..show me your balls.

Hahaha, that was a joke about "sick pervert". You didn't need to confess.

The technology itself looks promising but the valuation of the coin looks crazy to me. I believe the freemarket should do some justice/correction on the price once the listing of the coins go public.

There was a thread in the altcoin marketplace section where IOTA has been sold. Everyone was free to participate. If you missed the train then it is your fault.

No please reread the thread.

Unregulated ico with zero transparency is 100% open to manipulation to scams and abuse. Onus should be on ICO's to mass market it make it at least a little harder to totally game the entire minting for themselves. Else risk being branded a manipulated scam.

What if i took it to the extreme....listed it on the small market place for 5 mins and told nobody. I could say the same thing you did. All free to participate and purchase. What you didn't know about it ...your fault.

There needs to be reasonable marketing done and effort to ensure opportunity wide as possible distribution to avoid it being totally open to manipulation. Define reasonable. Ok well as other ICO's are doing. Anyway I've done the comparison to other big ones eth, nem, maid, lisk, ... iota lacking to all of those. Therefore not reasonable enough. Therefore very open to manipulation and gaming.

POW is may more fair and observable. If you will run an ICO with no POW make effort to mass  market and give max opportunity else risk being deemed a scam. Simple.

If we had heard nothing on the main board about IOTa and it went to exchanges and no mass pump efforts just moving according to actual acheivement it would appear less of a scam. However since it is being held captive and now the pumping starts on the main board (which they never used before) whilst strangling supply we can safely assume scam. The onus is on them to persuade otherwise. Let's see how much longer it is kept from the free market and how much pumping is attempted whilst it's still kept locked down.

Strangle supply and pump demand....yep bubble time. That is what they want before the pop it all over everyone and move to nxt3

Dude What are you rambling about? And who made you the godfather of crypto ico etiquette?

You should really do that, just to prove that it's not you who operates the sock-puppets.

P.S. maybe use one of your handles with a better reputation than "CIYAM".

I'm not sure that godfathers aim for equal distribution for all.

Nobody. I'm just pointing out facts. Small stealthy insta ico are far easier to game than those that large well advertised one that have some POW too.

If you want to refute these points then go ahead. Otherwise revert back to your old tactics of trying to personalise the issue and distract from the insta ico scam you're involved with.

totally.

You wouldn't believe but I actually missed Lisk and it feels bad but I didn't missed IOTA, so I wouldn't say at all it was a stealth ICO. Finally, why would anyone want to have stealth ICO when a goal is to "scam" as much money as you can?

Gotta tell you, that your insults are empty, you're probably butthurt right now, but it happens all the time in crypto-space. Accept it...

You have to think more. Isn't that what your school teachers used to say to you?

If it is really beyond the realms of your imagination as to why devs may want a stealthy ico then there is nothing I can do to help you.
Please try and re read the thread then ask some sensible questions. Also if you want to be taken seriously as an adult then the butthurt, sour grapes and all other suggestions as to why the thread is here need to be dropped. If you don't understand the motive is irrelevant when discussing facts only then again there is nothing I can do to help you.

Try and have another think about it all.

The fact is a stealthy small ico makes it far easier to manipulated the initial distribution in your favour.

Yes, I believe this is a scam. Disgusting scummy a**holes.

But seems like they are getting their way though. Stupid people are buying into this crap and bidding up the price. Once these scammers successfully exit the trade, they basically have stolen billions of money from innocent people.