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• Deposit taker
• Broking services
• Providing credit under a credit contract
• Operating a money or value transfer service
• Issuing and managing means of payment
• Giving financial guarantees
• Changing foreign currency
• Providing forward foreign exchange contracts
• Entering into or trading on an exchange, in an over-the-counter market or otherwise service

We are looking to sell 250 shares of our company, all share holders will have to be registered on our company register and reported as a share holder. 1000 Shares were issued and 750 of them are held by the owner.
We are looking to sell each share for BTC1 and will give bulk purchase discounts.
After looking at some of the exchanges, we found it would be very hard to list with them. The requires us to keep a register of all share holders, with the exchange it would almost impossible to keep up with it.
We are also looking for board members with Bitcoin lending history, financial background or Bitcoin business background.

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Message me to inquire about shares or other concerns!

Where are you "licensed" to provide those services? Any further details available... business plan, company info, or the like?

Yes please.

It cost lots of money to form a company, then be compliant with financial regulation. There is already 100 member that will be rolled in from a previous business, that buy on average 10k-15k worth of coins a month. With the new options that will be added I valued the company low at 25,000 honestly. The fact that its a "new business" does hinder the price you say. But the sales are there I can assure you that.

1.  Are you actually licensed to provide these services - as opposed to not needing to be licensed to provide them?  From previous threads it seemed you were registering in a form whereby you could (maybe) provide such services without needing a licence - which is absolutely NOT the same thing as being licensed.

2.  Proof of registration of company please - as well as some sort of business plan.  'I reistered a company please give me money" isn't the best selling line ever.

3.  750 shares are NOT "held by the owner".  He may be the founder, he may be the previous owner, he may be the majority shareholder but he is NOT (any longer) the owner

4.  "The requires us to keep a register of all share holders".  The what?

5.  Has this majority shareholder also paid 1 BTC per share (either in cash or in kind)?

6.  Are the proceeds from sale of shares going to the company or to yourself?

7.  What assets does the company have?

8.  Will this one run for a few weeks before ceasing operations as happened with your dismal failure of a mining company?

9.  Who is the "we" you refer to at various times?

1.  Are you actually licensed to provide these services - as opposed to not needing to be licensed to provide them?  From previous threads it seemed you were registering in a form whereby you could (maybe) provide such services without needing a licence - which is absolutely NOT the same thing as being licensed.
A)Yes I have a Financial Service Provider license, It is required by law.
2.  Proof of registration of company please - as well as some sort of business plan.  'I reistered a company please give me money" isn't the best selling line ever.
We are not a OFC as you speak of we are a registered financial services providers
http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp
Search -
FSP270025
Business plan is being reworked after a shift in business.
3.  750 shares are NOT "held by the owner".  He may be the founder, he may be the previous owner, he may be the majority shareholder but he is NOT (any longer) the owner
Your right my mistake bad wording.

4.  "The requires us to keep a register of all share holders".  The what?

The requires us to keep track of the company share holders and keep it up to date by 30 days.
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/4274578/shareholdings. Shows the 250 shares sectioned off to be sold.

5.  Has this majority shareholder also paid 1 BTC per share (either in cash or in kind)? Mixture of both.

6.  Are the proceeds from sale of shares going to the company or to yourself?
Company for equity and capital. We are going to provide instant exchange transfers of funds. This will require us to keep a consistent reserve of funds on both mtgox and btc-e

7.  What assets does the company have?
We have some assets but we are tryiing to raise funds.  ;) Thats why were posting.

8.  Will this one run for a few weeks before ceasing operations as happened with your dismal failure of a mining company?
Don't forget about the bitcoin-keys its been around and operating for a while ;). Things happen and business climates change all the time look at  hostess. I could not predict GLSBE closing, and nor could anyone else an this changed the climate of the business. "dismal failure" is not even close it paid dividends all the way up till the day I shut the rigs off. If that's a failure we need to reevaluate the word.

9.  Who is the "we" you refer to at various times?
We as in me and the Company.

Thanks for your interest

You realize you've told us absolutely nothing about yourself or your business, right? You come out of the newbie section and immediately ask us to invest 250 bitcoins with you...might I say we're bound to be a bit skeptical?

Understood,
Bitcoin-financial will be the a very complete platform that will allow for tons of features.

Cash Deposit 3rd Party "moneygram ect."   2.5%
Credit Card Deposit.   3.75%
Crypto Coin Deposit   0%
Minum Balance   $5 or Equal
Buy & Sell Coins   +2.50% Buy - 2.5%Sell
ACH Withdraws/wire   $0.25 Wire 25$
ACH Deposit   Free!
Crypto coin withdraw   0%
Transfer to/from Exchange "Mtgox" or "Btc-e"   2.99%

Our lending platform is still based off the crowd sourced lending to a degree. We take in Loan Brokers who lend out there own funds. These brokers have complete control over the lending term's they issue to a degree. The system sets a top interest rate for them to charge, and they are free to set it anywhere in between.
We will offer brokers unlimited use of our Right Signature digital document software "holds up in court as a legal document" to make contracts. These contracted are stored and CAN NOT BE CHANGED each document comes with a qr code for quick reference and look up of the contract.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPBHcficFhc

We have a built in payment gatway that can be set up with any website. It can be set up in a way to where the purchaser does not need a account. We will support any currency we have accounts open for at the time.
***{Sales op} We will offer merchant account brokers a discount on all merchant accounts set up


We are working with a company to provide 12 hours of chat support a day and 12 hours of email support. This will make for great customer services and fast transfers.

There is much much more...

Yet another one of those?

Srsly, 4 post guy, forget about this thing, see here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0). THAT is something of value. Your blathering is not.


How come nobody knows of you? Is it because you're lying, perhaps?


There is no interest.

What am I lying about? I would like to clarify any notions you may have. Lets sort this out like adults not kids.

Let's. Your name and your company name. Your registration number. The name of some of those investors, or some sort of proof of their existence. The name of that previous business, or some trace of its existence.

Basic stuff you should have been starting with rather than waiting for me to ask for.

My name is Daniel, its on the company info.
Bitcoin key's is my business that will now be combined into Bitcoin Financial that means we hold over 100 registered and verified members already.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98767.msg1080868#msg1080868

Why masquerade as Bitcoin-Financial instead of BitcoinINV?

There was no masquerade just a new business. Bitcoin-keys has its own forum account as well.

There seems to be something rather massive missing.

You claim to be licensed to provide various financial services - but only show evidence of REGISTERING as a financial services provider in New Zealand.  Registration is entirely seperate from licensing - licensed FSPs have to register in addition to being licensed, not as an alternative.

So where are you actually licensed to provide these services?  Registering is required for dispute resolution etc - but in no way gives you authority to actually provide financial services of itself : that has to be dealt with by the relevant regulatory/licensing bodies (e.g. the central/reserve bank for deposit taking - where you'll have to demonstrate very significant funds, suitably qualified staff etc).

See any names that ring a bell below? I have the same privileges as they do.

JP Morgan Chase has 4 FSPs

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=JPMorgan


Lloyds TSB bank has an 2 FSPs
http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=TSB


The Bank of Tokyo has an FSP

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=The+Bank+of+Tokyo


RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) has 3 FSPs

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=RBS

Citibank has 4 FSPs

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=citi


HSBC has a FSP

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/version/searchSummaryCompanyFSP/FSP37008/8.do?noReturn=true

Deutsche bank has 2 FSP's

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=Deutsche

ANZ Bank has 13 FSPs

http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/record/liveSearchFsp.do?q=anz


http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/version/searchSummaryCompanyFSP/FSP270025/1.do?noReturn=true
Third block down answers your questions on what I can do.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding.

The FSPR (which you linked to) is a register of all FSPs.

If you wish to conduct business as an FSP then you MUST be on that register.  But being on that register is NOT, of itself, sufficient to conduct business as an FSP.

X being required to do Y is NOT the same as X being sufficient to do Y - which is where you seem to have got confused.

Here's an excerpt from the Act which caused the GSPR to be formed:

"13 Qualifications for registration as financial service provider

    A person is qualified to be registered as a financial service provider if—

        (a) the person is not disqualified under section 14; and

        (b) the person is a member of an approved dispute resolution scheme, or the reserve scheme, if required by section 48; and

        (c) if a licensing enactment requires the person to be a licensed provider, the person is, or will be (on and from commencing to be in the relevant business), a licensed provider."

Note point (c).  You can REGISTER as an FSP without having a license (where one is required) but MUST obtain such a license before actually commencing business.  Some of the areas of business you've listed - such as accepting deposits - definitely require licensing: and I very much doubt you'd be able to obtain such a license if you're having to scrape around for 250 BTC (as there's pretty onerous requirements in terms of capital).

You're REGISTERED as an FSP but not LICENSED.  Understand the difference.  NZ doesn't (afaik) support offshore arrangements so there's no facility for getting an easy license if you only trade with non-residents.  Registration is just you saying "I'm going to do business X/Y/Z" - it isn't a license to actually do so.

Here's some reading for you:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0059/latest/DLM1106230.html

That's the (Amendment) Act which defined the Reserve Bank as being the licensing authority for non-bank deposit takers (which is what you'd be).  Good luck getting approval or an exemption from them.

Now it MAY be that you can conduct business without being licensed providing you don't sell to any New Zealand residents (I'm not clear on that - NZ doesn't have any explicit support for offshore business) however even IF that is the case it is a lie for you to claim to be licensed when you aren't (you're just registered - with means nothing other than that you've stated an intent to conduct business and aren't explicitly barred from doing so provided you meet all necessary requirements).

Form what the lawyer has told me this is not required unless you are going to use the name bank.
http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/version/searchSummaryCompanyFSP/FSP1681/16.do?noReturn=true
Savings and trust being perfect examples.
Also she pointed out to me
table 1
http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/research/bulletin/2002_2006/2003dec66_4mortlock.pdf
FSP taking deposits.

I was referring specifically to your claim to be a "Deposit Taker" - that's a term with a specific meaning.

Investment companies are NOT necessarily Deposit Takers (most aren't).

The Act I linked to specifically deals with the management of deposit takers who AREN'T banks.  Banks are dealt with seperately.

I'm not disputing that SOME of your listed areas of business can be conducted without need for a license.  I AM disputing:

1.  That you're licensed to do anything (you aren't - you're just registered as intending to conduct certain business).
2.  That you can be a Deposit Taker without a license (you can hold and manage funds no problem - but that's not the same thing).

Here's a quote from the FSPR website i nregards to who has to reigster (link : http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/about-the-fspr/frequently-asked-questions-faqs/registration-who/who-must-register-as-a-financial-service-provider)

"Some people will have to register regardless of the location of their place of business, because they provide a licensed financial service and their licensing authority requires them to register.  Individuals or companies unsure as to whether or not they will be required to register should seek their own independent legal advice."

That makes it entirely clear that licensing (where required) is something entirely different to the registration that they offer/require.

So either stop claiming to be licensed or get licensed.

They don't license anyone they even register banks, so your right and I will change it sorry for making you look all that up to clarify my position.

But its really not worth debating, that's not the corner stone of our services in the least bit. We could drop that with out any problems and still be fine.

The main red flag here (as other things are really technicalities that don't really say much on if someone were to invest) is you come and ask 25000$ without having a very detailed report on the intent of those funds. As a financial entity you owe yourself and potential investors to know the exact amount you need and for exactly what. Of course a "cushion fund" is granted, but the whole lot can't be a cushion.

Wait. Waitwait. Is this the guy with the Swedish banking co-op thing or am I confusing noobs?

The financials and business plan are listed on the website.

Listed maybe, but not available.

"Sorry, we are unable to generate a view of the document at this time. Please try again later."

Tip: People might actually buy your shares if you hire someone to make your website not utterly retarded.

Just talked to Btc-e Support they cleared us to have funds held like bitinstant.

Fixed it google doc's was being odd.

That doesn't mean it's worth it, though.

So I see.

Under the financials, I like how your projected total income for the year is $2.4 million. That's a bit ambitious...
I also seem to be missing the reason for a salary? Nor do I see where you distinctly mention Bitcoins or these 'shares'.

And as I go back through a second time...are you measuring everything in Bitcoins to begin with? I might have to look at it again after having some coffee, given it's 6:45am here..

No its based on dollars and the Discount percent. How I got to my projections took 2 months of watching btc-e's reserves from bitinstant reserves. I found that bitinstant does around 600k a month with btc-e, the number could be higher but.... They do not keep enough funds in to cover them at all times. Our aim is to move into the market with lower rates and better customer services. My pay is included on page 3 of 1200 dollars a month + dividends. After we take on share holders we will give them a choice between 75%, 60%, or 50% profit splits so we can rolls some more equity into the business. If you have anymore questions feel free to shoot them to me.

So the important question becomes, why choose you over BitInstant, MtGox, or BTC-e? They're established and well regarded within the community. Even with your lower rates, many people would still be more inclined to work with an established, successful business with a reputation more so than with a newcomer. How do you plan on overcoming this obstacle? Or is more of a "time will tell" sort of thing?

I already have 115 customers in my database. We are not directly trying to compete with the exchanges at this point but supplementing them. Well bitinstant runs out of funds which seems to happen every other day. When they are out of funds it is our intention to pick up the "slack". We will also have live chat personal open we are not sure if we are going to go with 8 hours or 12 hours live support with the rest as email support. If you look at the number one complaint about business in Bitcoin I would have to say it would be Customer service response time. Just dig through some of the service discussions lol.
We will also be providing services the other do no have at this time
1) ACH Deposits
2) Credit Card Deposit
3) Lending Platform.
5) Marketplace ad section.
6) Merchant services able to accept ANY crypto-coin.
7) Contract work for the anyone community
8) Bitcoin Outreach fund.

For o e thing you cant buy shares in Mt Gox or Bitinstant and competition is a good thing.

Still selling shares updated business plan.
Bitcoin Financial, A.K.A. Bitcoin-keys, was the first company to accept credit cards for bitcoin keys and was subsequently copied by other businesses.
              The programming of our back-end interface allows for easy coin exchanges and purchases and will thus will attract non-technical clients. If clients are capable of checking their bank account online, they can use our system.
              Users do not directly purchase coins; instead they add money to their accounts. Their funds in USD can then be automatically converted to BTC within the system. We are also working on direct USD to USD transfers between accounts, as well as BTC-E; we have set up and wired BTC-E money in the past and would like to grow that part of our business.
             We also will be directly selling litecoins and any other digital coin that becomes relevant to our client community.

Business Plan
                               

I.    Introduction

This document is to establish goals and a strategy to achieve those goals for the coming years. The purpose of this Strategic Plan is to outline the strategy through which we plan to meet our goals. The Strategic Plan is to be used:

   A. To communicate a sense of direction to all parts of our organization;
   B. To identify short-term actions needed to prepare Bitcoin Financial to meet its long-term    objectives;
   C. To help assess the long-term impact of short-term plans;
   D. To provide a basis for short-range, one-year planning;
   E. To provide a basis for financial strategy; and,
   F. To provide a control device against which to compare actual progress.

II.    Mission

The Company is a privately-owned financial services provider whose purpose is to promote the financial well-being of its members by providing comprehensive and progressive financial services.

Operating Principles:

   A.  To provide these services in a professional, personal, and market-competitive manner    using alternative payment methods.
   B. To create a climate in which the company and customers can achieve outstanding    performance and personal growth.
   C. To support the advancement of our community, the bitcoin philosophy, and in particular    our own philosophy to give back to what gives. We will donate a percentage of all profits    to a Bitcoin Exposure fund. This fund will help make bitcoins more visible to the public.
   D. To continue the emphasis of the Company's strengths through the growth of capital and surplus.

All of these principles shall be supported by a program of excellence in product quality and service while maintaining high standards of ethics and integrity.



III.    Assessment of Current Position

   A. Strengths

      1. Management Team

      Over the past few months, the founder has worked to improve the quality of the Company's management team. As we enter 2013, the management team is more             professional, more capable, and more experienced than ever before. In addition, the current management team is better-positioned than ever to build a reputation in the          community.

      2. Range of Services

      The Company’s full range of services must also be considered a strength. Our services match up well against most exchanges, purchasing platforms and selling services.

      3. Permits

      The Company's permits provide us with a great deal of flexibility. Being registered as a Financial Service provider in New Zealand allows us the ability to do things other          businesses in our sector cannot do.

   B. Weaknesses

      1. Member Loyalty

      The fact that the Company is a closed community means we have to strive to maintain customer loyalty. This means we have to go above and beyond competitors. With many          other services to choose, from we must make our service worth the repeat customers'          business.

      2. Relationship with the Community

      The same factors that have affected member loyalty have also affected our relationships with outside groups. Over the past few years, several problems have arisen in the community with other financial institutions. Many of the people that remained in the community have “a bad taste in their mouth” caused by the problems of the past. As a          result, there has been a fair amount of animosity and some reluctance on the part of these groups and their representatives to work with any kind of standard system like ours

      3. Accessibility

      While the Company has made significant gains over the past few months in becoming more accessible, we still lag behind our competition. We will be adding more options as    the business takes off.
   C. Market Position

      The Company is largely perceived as being something of a "specialty" financial    institution. That is, members may use our services just for “hobby money”. But as we all       know, hobbies can get expensive and we plan to use that to our advantage.

      The Company’s competition includes each of the following:

         BTCquick (Purchasing Services)
         ZIGZAP (Purchasing Services)
         Cash To Bitcoins Lcc (Purchasing Services)
         Fast Cash to Bitcoins (Purchasing Services)

      A. Strengths of Competitors

         1. Accessibility: They are known in the community and are easy to access. They have multiple way to transfer funds.

         2. Perceived Security: People have used these services for long periods of time. This makes the customer feel safe and at ease with the business.

         3. Consumer Acceptability: If someone asks how to get money on a exchange or buy bitcoins, the answer is Bitinstant.

IV. Assessment of Environment

The financial services industry is undergoing a period of rapid change. The savings and loan crisis, de-regulation, fluctuating interest rates, new electronic technology and competition from outside the "traditional banking" industry are just a few of the factors that will be affecting the business. Although the environment is largely uncontrollable and the future is difficult to predict, it is possible to analyze current trends and make some assumptions about what the environment will be like in the future.

V. Goals

The following are the Company's goals for next year (2013):

   Assets   $150,000
   Loans $0
   Reserve to Assets 75%   

VI. Strategy

In order to achieve our financial goals, we must be prepared to address the obstacles and potential future obstacles which stand in our way. Specifically, we must work to remedy problem areas while taking advantage of our strengths and the opportunities in the marketplace.

Our strategic objectives for 2013 and the methods by which we will work towards each of these strategic objectives are discussed below.

   A. To Build Capital as a Percentage of Assets
   The stronger a business's capital base, the better it is able to service its members in good times and bad. For that reason, we will continue to work to build our capital as a             percentage of assets.

   Our plan to build capital for 2012, therefore, will focus on exchange and business growth together with vigilant expense control. To support this effort:

      1. We will continue to promote secured credit while tightening our standards for    unsecured credit.


   B. To Build Member Loyalty

   The building of member loyalty is a process which will take place over a number of years. We    must work diligently to develop a strong relationship with our members. Four areas will be    addressed in 2013:

      1. We will work to improve the overall quality of service to our members. While some    progress has been made in this area, we must continue to make quality service a priority.       One significant change will be made in 2013: live chat support. The addition of live chat       support will significantly reduce the number of frustrated customers. Support emails will       be reduced, slow service and excessive wait times for the customer will be reduced, and          our staff will be freed up to provide more important member services.

      2. We will work to provide a more well-trained staff. A well-trained, efficient staff will enable us to better serve our membership and help in building better member relations. 

      3. We will continue to work to develop a sales culture. While some progress has been made in this area, we still have a long way to go. In 2013, we will improve our sales systems and make independent brokers work at their own pace. We will also provide    sales training to all brokers.

      4. We will continue to focus on business differentiation. In our publications and    communications we will promote the fact that the business is a unique type of financial          institution which was designed exclusively for the benefit of its members.


   C. To Attract and Retain a More 'Upscale' Member

   Four actions will be taken in 2013 to achieve this objective:

      1. A  card-like feature will be introduced. This program will help to attract in-person merchants by providing a lower rate and a higher ease of use.

      2. In-Progress USD to Exchange services. Trust Accounts will be issued and pay a real interest rate, rather than the crazy numbers we often see in the community. The             profits from coin exchange will be used to pay bond interest rates.

      3. Special attention will be paid to those Merchant members for which we are looking. Our Marketing Department will be working with representatives of these companies to          increase penetration. Membership drives and special sign-ups with discounts will be offered.

      4. Members with V.I.P. status will be exempt from certain fees. This will help us to avoid "nickel and dime-ing" the members who maintain a significant presence within          our client community.

VII. Conclusion

Over the past months, the business has made tremendous progress towards its long-term goals. This plan had outlined our strategy for 2013 and beyond. By working vigilantly to achieve our objectives, we will continue to build the business into a stronger, more competitive financial institution that provides both top quality services to its members and a climate in which our volunteers and employees can achieve outstanding performance and personal growth.




Addendum for share holders:

   Shares will be offered on Bitfunder; these shares can be claimed and registered with the NZ government if you provide me with the information.
             Shareholders have the right to serve as a loan and investment board member, board members will be compensated for use of their time. Fees collected from loans and transactions will be used to pay the members for their time.
   The loan board votes on loans and investments; board members will be responsible for due diligence with regard to all items voted on. Loans or investments will not be undertaken unless a board member brings it up in a board meeting.

Could just ONE company that claims to have a strong management team actually indicate who they are and what their expertise is?

06-08 2 E-4 In charge of 15 Marines.
Corporal is the lowest grade of non-commissioned officer in the U.S. Marine Corps, though promotion to corporal traditionally confers a significant jump in authority and responsibility compared to promotion from private through lance corporal.
Train subordinates in their MOS and basic military skills
Be accountable for the actions of your squad, section, or team
Enforce the standards of military and physical appearance
Ensure supervision, control, and discipline of subordinates
Assist in personal and professional development of fellow Marines
Provide communication link between the individual Marine and the organization
Plan and conduct the routine and day-to-day unit operation within the policies established by your senior officers.
Maintain appearance and condition of unit billeting spaces, facilities, and work areas
Maintain serviceability, accountability, and readiness of assigned arms and equipment
Maintain the established standards of professionalism and job performance for the Marines, the NCO's, the SNCO's and the Corps
Support, follow, and implement policy established by officers
   

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2) Cpl

(a) Maintains records and distinguishes the different modifications on all models of missiles and conventional munitions assigned.

(b) Utilizes available technical and supply publications to obtain accurate and complete data for supply purposes.

(c) Perform inspections on the maintenance, storage, and shipment of explosives.

(d) using ammunition stock and allowance lists/publications, prepares and edits ammunition requisitions and takes requisition follow-up actions.

(e) Makes ammunition issues, prepares invoices, and custody records.

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(g) Performs the System Administrator tasks associated with the Ordnance Information System (OIS) ammunition accounting and management system.


Britt Motorsports

Sales and Finance
Top salesman multiple months,
average of 25+ units a month out the door in a Market of 150k People.
Sold "Backend" Products such as extended warranties, alarms, service plans and custom work.
This was not really a leadership position but it did show me how the financial sector and consumer behavior.

Also strong management is in the eye of the looker  ;)

Think you missed the point - or part of it.  Claiming a strong TEAM implies multiple people not just one.

Current Account Funding methods
All Fiat Transactions require verification

Credit Card
ACH
AMX Serve
ZIPZAP

Message me on the bifunder IRC or email me at admin@bitcoin-financial.com

Should be open to trading by tomorrow!

Before investing in Bitcoin Financial or with Daniel "BitcoinINV" "Bitcoin-Financial.com" I would recommend you ask how he packed up shop and left his previous investors handing, and have him define how he plans to exit this investment.

I do not plan to exit this investment at all, I left a unprofitable one like anyone would this has been explained to death in previous forum. Lets move on okay, lots of business stopped after GLSBE.

Here is a little more info for you
Last company was held
33% By me
47% 1 Private Investor
10% unsold shares
10% owned by a couple of people.

What was the previous project?

Bitcoin Mining Invesments

So packing up and screwing 57% of the shareholders is OK?

Adding is not your strong suit?
33+47+10=???

10% owned by about 12 other people?

If your not going to look into a previous situation lets not comment on it ok?
It is bad enough you made a Stock that is almost Identical to my name and Registered Company, that I have to keep explaining to people I have no part in.

Was there a thread for the shutdown?  My search-fu hath failed me.  The one I found had info about the IPO and startup, but not the subsequent shutdown after GLBSE.

It was the IPO thread, and all payments were handled via email claims

I'll try to find it again, but that sounds ok to me.  Why are people upset about it?  GLBSE was an ugly situation and some issuers made it a lot worse, but it sounds like you made a good effort for a clean shutdown.

People were upset because he started a mining company, mined for a few weeks, then stopped mining without bothering to announce it and only a few months later started communicating about it all.  WHilst GLBSE going down temporarily removed access to the list of investors it in no way stopped posting updates.  And suddenly deciding mining wasn't profitable a few weeks after raising funds via IPO to mine is an interesting approach to business.  It's not as though block-reward halving should have been a big shock.

Those are bold face lies, lets keep this on topic. Make a scam thread if you have a problem with the way I handled it, or take legal action or whatever you feel has been done wrong to you. If not stop spewing your nonsense on my thread about a totally different subject thank you.

Aug-Nov operation time,
Plan from day one, shut down GPU'S after halfing and turn on asics. After research of the options for ASIC at the time I found it to be stupid to buy into a "imaginary Product" Did you Deprived?  Can you really blame me for seeing this ASIC mess before it happened?

What list of investors? I only got the last names this year.

This thread is oozing professionalism!

I don't disagree with the decision NOT to buy ASICs (I don't disagree with ANY decision NOT to run a mining company - and wish more people decided that way).  But that's a decision you should have made BEFORE raising funds TO buy ASICs.

Correct order to do things:

1.  Work out if it's viable.
2.  Raise funds.

Your way:

1.  Raise funds.
2.  Decide it's not viable.

Do you see the difference - or why the order I propose is better?

I DO agree this has little directly to do with this business - but it IS of relevance as, even if we accept your explanation of what happened, it's clear you raised funds for something without having established whether it was viable.  That doesn't, of course, mean THIS isn't viable - but should raise the level of proof of viability needed.

There seem to be plenty of companies around that think if they make a few BTC (or in some cases have never made any BTC at all) then raise a load of capital they'll automagically make a LOT of BTC (see most recent IPOs on Bitfunder/BTC.CO/LTC-GLobal).  Raising capital is NOT some magnet that attracts profit towards it - as, no doubt, a lot of these IPOs (and their investors) will find out.  Maybe yours is one of the few that will actually well - I don't know, and nothing you've posted so far is particularly compelling evidence of future success.

I woldent call GPU bitcoin mining unprofitable now or in the past.
I was one of the 10% the "couple of people"

The previous project was a Mining operation; it was launched and packed up in just a few weeks, before it got off the ground no valid reason for packing up shop.   I'd say I made a mistake by investing, but Daniel did not conduct himself honourably or in a manner becoming an honest businessman. 

You can see how Denial punted the stock and then hung his investors out to dry by reviewing his conduct in the tread below,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109811.msg1490353#msg1490353

I' wouldn't call it discussed to death, I think I have invested half a dozen attempts to ascertain where my dividends and liquidated Bitcoin's are, all to no avail.

I paid all parties who made claim in the set claim time period. If you do not like the way I was given the information to pay people, contact james maccarthy. If you would like the rest of the coins, wait for the him to pay coins being held by them. Any further discussion of this needs to be moved to a different thread, if not this topic will be closed and turned into a self moderated topic.

Don't try that crap
This email was sent out, if you did not respond in set time frame its not my fault.
Kowalczewski, Daniel <drkowalczewski@mailccc.net>
Feb 3


You have been identified as a bitcoininv stock holder, We will start to process the funds we have right now out which is 56BTC these are dividends from mining from GLSBE close down to halfing day. All shares after 10 days will be null and void if not claimed. I am putting a close to this and do not want to be dealing with this 3 months down the road.

How to claim you shares, In the subject line of your email to me it should say your withdraw address. In the body it should have you email and how many shares you have. Thanks.

You can read how "elegantly" (sarcasm) it was dealt with from here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109811.msg1253445#msg1253445
As a practical outcome, I never received any Dividends or revenue from liquidation stock of past investments managed by the OP

Was warned the post would be locked for continued offtopic post.