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I've noticed there are a lot of hyip websites being promoted. Are there any benefits to running one? Which website(s) are the best to buy an HYIP website?

there is no good HYIP sites. sooner or later they will ultimately scam. My advice is never to try HYIP investment

HYIP is a bubble, and we can call it ponzi. At the beginning, they pay with the investors money until they get to a point of high profit, and close the website.
I don't recommend to invest in hyips

The only ones who benefits from those hyips are the owners itself. The people participating in it are only commiting crimes from stealing other peoples money for the sake of them getting profit. That ain't cool. :(

I agree to never invest in hyip. I had a bad experience when investing in hyip and well you're still a newbie so I suggest you to stay away of hyips

HYIPS are good for their owners, which are some low life scammers. And the people who invest in those sites, are or plain stupid with huge problems in their thinking, they don't know what they are doing, or greedy ones, this second case is more often found on those sites, as people who join first, tend to promote those HYIPS very well unfortunately and make a lot of money for themself by bringing in "victims" (referrals) and getting nice commissions for doing so.

Stay away from those sites, 99,99% it ends bad for the user. But if you want to own one, that means you are a very very bad person in my opinion.

All hyip site are scams. the owners make profit if they successfully scam folks, it's best for you if you stay out.

There are a lot of HYIPs and there will always be as long as people don't realise they are all scam sites, usually ponzi schemes.
They can pay for the first customers and for the sites which give reviews but then they will eventually stop paying.
Please don't put a single satoshi in them.

Yes there are benefits in running hyip but not in the part of the investors. It's all for the owners benefit.

High returns, free additional investment, short ROI etc. - Who's owner will give this such good rewards. They create that HYIP to make money for themselves and not to their investors.

he is not asking for to join a HYIP, but he is asking that if it is beneficial to start/create his own HYIP website !!

I think starting any website nowadays will benefit anyone, who know well about advertising ad networks and network marketing etc, so start any website you want to start.

You will not benefit if you don't own the site. I have been investing in HYIP investment site before and it give me a bad experience. The sites automatically close after they get they quota. I think I lost may around .02 BTC and that is big for me.

These sites are useless so don't waste your time to find so-called good sites to invest. They are mostly scam sites and they will pay only until they reach their target of deposits, once they reach then automatically they will stop paying members and will open new site to get new deposits. Don't ever invest on these sites.

If you are planning to run one HYIP site, of course you will be benefited, depends on if you turn to scam, but you will become a criminal or not.

If you want to HYIP, then invest in cloud mining. Or any different "doublers" in a few days.
But generally, it's just a waste of money.They will take your money and run away with them.

HYIP's are for those who wants to earn money with very high risk. Traditional banks offers investment funds with high risks but they don't call it HYIP, they just inform their client's that earnings are higher but risk is high as well but earning in terms of percentage is not comparable to HYIP's which is usually outrageous. Stay away from those HYIP's even if you have money to spare.

Why is this in Gambling anyway? This should be in investor-based games I think.

If there were no losers in a HYIP then it would have been a excellent option for people to invest and to make a decent return on their investment, but this is unfortunately not the case. In every HYIP there will always be some losers and this is why there is no benefit.

If you have to take money from one person to pay another person and at one stage there are no new people coming in to pay the previous people, someone will lose money. ^hmmmm^

We have seen one of the biggest HYIP/Ponzi schemes fail within the last month < MMM > How many millions of people around the world benefited from that, after it failed? 

Don't ever fall into this trap. You may get payments for a while,  but never ever it will be for long. It will turn scam at last.

If you make a site hyip maybe you could benefit, depending on the strategy and promotion, as well as promotions that require sufficient capital. but if you just want to invest in hyip sites, I think there is no benefit and you will lose in vain.

There is already too many Ponzi, and there are no benefits in running a Ponzi IMO. It is just a waste of time, and money. Well, unless you promote your Ponzi in a place full of 'unintelligent' people. No offense.

Given this, it really is weird that there are still tons of releasing crappy websites. I'm guessing people are still being lured into this, else they wouldn't have bothered getting into this anymore. Lol

It's pretty unethical to be running a HYIP, they always scam in the end, there is no way that you could be offering a huge ROI of like 1% per day or more.

Well the main benefit seems to be an easy way to scam people especially newbies and take their bitcoin, if you value yourself and believe in karma it would be best to stay away from running one of these.

Even trying to run one in a legit way would be extremely difficult, promising these high returns to the users and then trying to keep to it whilst making a profit would be impossible and you would work at a loss.

it will take a while but eventually everyone will wise up to these sites and simply stop using them but people will always be drawn to the fact that they could profit at someone else's loss.

a HYIP is a scam, so if you are ok with scamming people then you can think about it. and i think it is profitable for the owners since there are a lot of them being created everyday and then die in a couple of days.

A High Yield Investment Program, also referred to as HYIP, can be a risky venture if you aren’t careful. So it pays to do your homework and learn about HYIP’s, how they work, and where you can find good ones if you are seriously considering investing in one.Let us take a closer look at how a High Yield Investment program works. Be warned though, this is what makes them illegal in some countries, such as the USA. Someone creates a HYIP site,

Wonder how you categorize HYIP sites out there.There is nothing good in HYIP .Its just an illusion at starting because they pay you big or whatever they guarantee in starting and they later on comes out with excuses that your account has been hacked or may even run scamming without giving such indications.

Its upto you how you see it .Well there are still some guys who invest and switches HYIP sites and gets out with profit but it is also risky as you might never know when they will run  scamming away all the deposits.They may also try to run away with the first deposit.

Its just that user needs to know how things work before investing.Its is like HYIP is giving you free money but the ponzi's investors never try to learn or think or accept the fact that where from these funds come from?? ^[1] and, If they are giving up free ,will they run for long??^[2].

Same with all newbie and curious guys, i ever fall into HYIP, because of my greed and their sweet promises i joined HYIP not once but more than 3 times, but all end up scam
so using my experience i suggest to stay out of HYIP because all of them will turn out scam one day,its just the matter of time

HYIP is like balloon because in the end we have nothing as a investor and as owner also, i don't think anyone can make profit by make investment there, the game for HYIP is already over so much hard to get investors for these kind of sites.

Wtf why would you like to run a HYIP site for yourself if you know most HYIP are scam. Does that mean you want to be one of them?By the way, the benefits of running a HYIP is that it's easy to earn money but in illegal way like scamming/stealing people's bitcoin. And I don't know any sites where you can buy a HYIP site because I don't plan to make one.

Based on his question, it seems like he also want to run his own ponzi. People thinks this is a good way to make money. They thought they should do 'black hat' stuffs to earn money. What they don't know is that there are much more opportunities out there that are legitimate and are paying more than what you'll get after running away with the investor's money in a ponzi website.

I think this is not the place to discuss this ponzi.. but i can give a suggestion better to don't plan to start a business like HYIP because the system of HYIP are risky and honestly all of them are scam they are paying in few days and run the funds.. and if you are planning to start it too better to dont make your own HYIP.. karma is always there..

They always being paid at the first glance but If you keep investing , you will be scam ( my experience )
I have invest several HYIP since I know bitcoin , but I'm experience lossing more rather than ROI

If you are one of the first "investors" of this scheme, then yes, there might be a slim chance of getting good benefits. But if you're one of those late joiners, there us a high chance of you losing money and being denied of profit.

well I'm new too all this, I haven't invested in any hyip's other than AvaBitcoin (who was paying until they closed) I didn't realize it was bad until I started reading all of the replies. I was trying to get more information before starting, but I guess this is out of the question. Are there other ways to invest Bitcoin and still earn something back, even if it's something small?

If you are a HYIP operator the benefit is embezzling other people's money and if you are one of the users there is no benefit because sooner or later you will lose your hard-earned coins. These schemes gain traction by offering unrealistic interest rates on investment in their systems and when enough people have deposited money the owners take everything and run for the hills.

HYIP only have benefits for the ones who enter first. If you are one of those who entered in first wave, you will perhaps get some money out of it. On the other hand, if you get there late you can kiss your money goodbye!

I think it is not favour to us.

Stay away from HYIP. You dont know what's in the mind of the admin, but base on statistics most of HYIP promoted here and other sites does not give a favorable profit to majority of investors. I would rather gamble in sports betting that sticking with this one.

Yup this is true, if you joined in the last row then their is possibilities that they will not pay you because when you joined they are totally scam because all HYIPs didn't last long,but i guess there are some.

The only benefit that you can get into joining HYIP are the lesson that you will learn from joining them when they have taken away your money and you cant do anything about it.

No way, I say this base on my experience, invested to HYIP before when I was a newbie in bitcoin. Was able to collect daily earnings but all of the sudden the admin is gone and take all my BTCs. very bad experience that will never let on happening again.

STAY AWAY! on that kind.

All these sites are 100% scam sites because they way they offer the interest rate on daily basis is impossible to get with any kind of business. So they are offering these attractive interest rates just to collect more deposits as soon as possible to close the site and want to open another one with different theme. Do not ever fall on these traps and lose your hard earned money. It is worst then gambling because in gambling at least you will get some fun but here nothing.

Usually hyip will makes you bankrupt, most of hyip is a scam, dont tempted by its big earning, stay away from ponzi and hyip if you are still loves your bitcoin

If you're getting daily earning from an HYIP or a ponzi, probably that's not your actual interest. Its  someone's investment.

Yes, here are some of my opinion , referrals deposit which we can get some profit especially if big amounts ,easy money can doubled 2days to 30 days 200% to 500% roi depends on the HYIP time frame.

I was not looking to invest but to create one but based on the replies and research I will be creating a faucet instead. It's going to be less earnings but at least I know more about it.

Yes this absolute right, we can earn from referrals without risk. Thanks for the input I have not done is before instead I invested and eventually lost my investments due to the pyramid scams.

You can just have a profit in HYIP if the site is newly open. They will pay some of their first investor in order to attract more investor after that they will turn into scam. Dont make a ponzi site its better to be fair on others.

I agreed to you and most newly open HYIP sites pays for the first week but sometimes they dont really need a lot of investors on their site and all they want is big investments and that's why they sometimes closes their site before anyone gets paid especially when someone invested big after the sites open up.

The payment that you get from them in the first time you invest was just a bait so that you can invest more and invite others and after that they have many investor then they will just stop and closed the site.

That is called pyramid scam and you will never benefit from it unless you are in the top of the pyramid.

the final word HYIP = scam , i don't agree if people call HYIP as gambling.
so who want to earn from scam way? there is no benefit at all.
gambling on casino much more better than do waiting new HYIP site coming to scam you.

Well, HYIP is good if you can be the 1st investor and you can get your ROI before they will close. I also agree that gambling in casino is way more better that wasting our time with HYIP. It will only cause us emotional stress in the event we loss due to scam.

hyip websites only benefits for the owners but not for the investors because we can see many owners hyip sites has bring out investors money and vanished so i personally considers all hyip or related sites bad for me and bad for all because i had bad experience too regarding hyip and i would stay away from them

just like the dice that will only give advantage to the owner may be the only difference ponzi deceiving while the dice just a game using the money.
so better to avoid hyip

Saying that all HYIP are scams is incorrect there are maybe 1-2% of them out there that are legit however the only problem is that they pay very little . Pretty much no more then a regular savings account. The ones that promise 50% gain in 60 minutes are all scams.

How can a website be called High-Yield Investment Program if the pay very little? ;D

And also why would people want to invest in sites that only pay just like a regular savings account when they can just time deposit their money in the bank where they assure 100% safety?

There's no point in paying hosting sites and creating a website just like that. Most investment sites' real objective is to runaway whenever they get their target money.

If you really do want to invest your money, I suggest you become a stockholder to a big company (well that's only if you've got enough money to invest in their company)

It depends, if the service or product that they are intending to sell is a success and it's legit, then it will be great for those that invested at the beginning. Then again, im not sure about the differences between IPO and HYIP.. I think im confused on those two terms, but it's basically invest at the beginning at get more rewards later due the risk of investing at the beginning, this is pretty much what happens in all investments.

Sometimes even if you invest at the beginning, you will also lose money. I have seen HYIP closed because there were too little investor and the HYIP ran away with the initial funds. investing in HYIP is very risky as the owner can run away in anytime.

HYIP is really benefit to running, but for what i know HYIP always ended scam. So if you want try to running one HYIP, you can try look at popular HYIP. see their website and the plan for each investment.

There is no way you could get daily earning from HYIP. May be you can but that is only some that really pay you out but it is not as much as your investment. Most of them will pay you gradually but you need to wait longer time which mean they just use your money as their needs. If they earn some they will pay you if not they will just go away like that. There is no one could invest in something like this

yeah of course they are not going to shut down their sites when they are a few days old at the time of course they have not got a huge advantage if you stop and go when a short lifespan. so you can take advantage of this to get locked in profits at the beginning only. but still it is likely to be a scam in the beginning is possible. so beware

Certainly before you get it you make a deposit for the initial capital just like when you buy a GHS for mining or the like, I think even if you get a daily income of a Ponzi or hyip, before you get all your capital back/ROI, sites ponzi/hyip it will be the scam first

Yup, if the owner in the first place is really trying to scam you, he will surely trying to lock your investment so you cant get it out or profit from him. So end up, you will only get a portion of your investment back.

i think the risk in HYIP is bigger than the profit iteself, so i would try to stay away from HYIP as much as possible so i don't lose my money :-\

As I said in my previous post, you can earn from HYIP if you only work for the referral program but it is really bad because you are just like participating in scamming the investors. You should only refer investment programs that you have already tried it by yourself and get satisfaction from it.

Referral nowadays, does not work anymore because of the negative image most of the HYIP brings. They cannot attract investors anymore, so it's just a waste of time if you work as referral due to its in-viability in the current time.

They could be benefit for 3 people:

1. HYIP Admin
2. HYIP Promoters
3. Early birds

If you want to profit from HYIPs, I think you should get in early with little amount and fall back with the profits.
Do not think of reinvesting.

A few years ago, I used to goto HYIP Monitors to join the best HYIPs, and also get refback from the monitors. It was profitable for awhile until I was so greedy and invested all my money in a promising shitty HYIP and lost all the money to them.

So, be careful.

your words correctly, I also like it because I am too greedy for all my money is gone, now I only play one time deposits only and I play more results upside

Yes, they can make some profit, better than gamble & trading for short term


I can say that early birds can make profit so make sure that you are monitoring HYIP. My friend experienced this and he still on profit until now

yeah! that's true but how can we sure that we are the early bird in a HYIP. Most of us here I am pretty sure already lost some of our money in HYIP. I don't really understand why there are a lot of HYIP right now when there trust ratings are pretty low.

But I don't think even early investors can make profits from these sites because there are plenty of sites which closed with in couple of days of opening or even faster. So there is not guaranty that you can make profits from these mostly scam sites, if you invest early. I think, gambling will be better then investing these sites.

I do not recommend investing in HYIPs.

But if you still want to play HYIPs. I'll share the knowledge I've earned. I can give you some steps to follow:

1. Goto => https://www.goldpoll.com/ (This is famous HYIP Monitor)
2. Look for the Latest, Short Term and High Paying. If you find any suitable one.
3. Goto => http://www.allhyipmonitors.com (This is where all the hyips and monitors are listed) and search for that HYIP you chose.
4. Below there will be bunch of monitors, look for the high refback RCBs and join with their referral link. (Before joining with their link, check in their website if anyone got their refback paid recently)
5. Request for refback after you invest.

Remember, invest only what you can afford to lose. Get in early and get out quickly with the profit.

Good luck


Yep! That is why you have to be careful and join the best, latest, short term and high paying. Make your own calculations that when your investment will be back (Including the refback).

If you've managed to get your investment back, you won't be much bothered if the site gets closed without giving you the profit.

HYIP has no benefits for real investors it is like to have suicide attemp, it is designed for owner and promoters, i can say this without any confusion as i had very bad experience with HYIP sites so there is no safety for your hard earned money, they can run with people money any time.

that's common things from all HYIP sites because every HYIP always be offering to us daily profit but the biggest problem is they will shut down the sites before investors get ROI and runaway with your money

How come the HYIP owner will give high profits for it's investor?

Owner create HYIP to make money not to give big bucks for their investors.

Make sense.

What's more evil between running a ponzi and working "honestly" in an insurance business trying to convince people to pay for useless things?

whatever you want to do, whether it is starting a HYIP or even if it is investing in a HYIP, if you don't know what you are doing and it is your first time doing it with no prior experience it is going to be leading only to loss.

besides, i think it is not good to invest in things like this, you should dedicate your time and money to better ways, legit ways of earning bitcoin and you will be more successful that way too.

I will say no noany out them of are good to invest in or buy anything like upgrade or packs from them. Even i have seen some offering company shares . Currently there are also lots of hyip which claim themselves as cloud mining service but in reality they are just a hyip which will eventually run away scamming lots of users. Stay away from hyip.

Mostly they will pay for 1 or 2 months. You will think to keep the btc for more time and then poof! they will vanish. You will always lose money, there is no way to profit from HYIP

He's talking about running one himself, not investing his money into one.

No it's not a good idea to do that, you're basically going to scam people, highly unethical and illegal.

The benefits is always on the HYIP owner, but remember you are scamming people. You benefited at the expense of ours which is very bad cause karma will reach you if not today, you can expect if the future.

Hyips are just dirty-ass scams catching people out. Don't invest in them. Don't run them. Simple.

HYIP always end in loosing side so no real profit.

HYIP means that later or sooner the site will scam for sure. I have lost quite some money with these :(

Hyip can give you money if you have come on the launched of the site but if this hyip stays for 10 days then dont try to put even some money on it because you will see what hyip really is.

It's a trap!!! you shouldn't try it and keep your focus here on the forum. It's much safer that way. HYIP they will just want you to join and everyone else. Once, they got many client/users they will run away and "pooof" just like a buble. Then they will make another one and do the same thing "over and over again".

Yeah! I have I am saying this base on my experienced because I already lost a considerable amount of money investing in HYIP. At first they really pays you well without delays, can you imagine an investment site giving more interest/dividends bigger that the banks offer? I have already learned my lessons but say to admit its in a hard way.

every investement can give us benefit,that their main purpose,but the problem is when this site scamming us,its can give us negatif think to other site that we will invest on it. hyip is not bad,some hyip site ever give me profit,but then they scamming me :(

Yep! It all depends. If the HYIP owner have invested alot of money into his project and he got only little investments, he'll pay for awhile until he gets more deposits.

If he have invested less into his project and he got more investments from others which he's satisfied, he'll surely run away.

and yes, it's better to stay away from HYIPs completely.

Don't ever entertain is the best way to stay away from it. HYIP are made to scam people, if you are dumb then you go invest to HYIP. Scammers just the one who will profited in this kind of scheme. Let us not be fooled by the high return of our investment.

why are you even asking this! HYIP is a form of scam so your question is this "is scamming people profitable". the answer only depends on your conscience and the fact that you are ready to live with the consequences or not.

any other thing that you do is more profitable than scamming people.

Maybe the OP just want to know all the benefits even most of the sites go into scam. OP if you do not own a HYIP site then you can still have a benefits entering into HYIP even without investing. Try to join their referral program and in that way you are risk free.

Don't ever expect of long term profit in hyip. Well, some of it pays at few days and scam, so you only get profit if you are early in investing it. But I do not recommend it because it is still a scam.

I think this riskier than legitimate gambling games like casinos or sports betting. You cannot be stupid in investing this type of program cause it is gonna be for sure just take all our money and the owner will go for vacations in a fancy hotels with hot chicks while their investors cried in vain.

Its a trap and as someone mentioned here there are only very few possibilities when you can come out on profit. 1. If you are the owner of the site. 2. If you have invested in the first day of the HYIP launch. 3. By referring a lot of fish-refs under you.

But do not send any money to them ,if you are supporting HYIPs it means you agree with they lifestyle and to rob other people money in the end. In this forum we are all against them, expect noobs who don't know what they are doing.

1 or 2 months would go good, even one payment would be good. However most of them don't payout large gains at all. And the ones that do they are very low percentage or you end up breaking even.

Your right!! supporting them will just keep them going and do it all over again. Maybe if the one that supports them also make another hyip and don't care what people say about them. As far as i can see they are no good to the people and just like a criminal, - IMO.

there are many ways that benefit, you do not be tempted by hyip sites are only paid when the site was still fresh.

That's true, never ever trust you hard earned money in a HYIP, they just full of promises for you to get lured an invest a huge amount, after they get their quota, they just disappear like a bubble. Wonder if you could still reach them. They are happy while the investors are in vain.

Yes there is! BUT, on the owner's side and early investors only :p . HYIP's are like mushrooms, so many but almost all are poisonous.

Yeah you are lucky if the owner is your friend and you are one of the pioneers who joined that hyip. But much better not to invest there because surely after a couple of months most of hyips' are scams.

I don't think now a days most of the sites will not last for couple of months and some of them will close even within couple of days. It all depends on how much site owners are looking, if they get even couple of deposits also they will close. Investing in these kind sites is worst then gambling your money. Never ever invest your money in these kind of sites.

There is no benefit to bitcoin that HYIPs exist. However, if you can precisely predict when best it is to invest and cashout just before the whole ponzi collapses, you might get some good returns on your investments. Take it as a pure gamble, though.

Don't do that even if you can predict it right, you know you are taking other people money which came in line after you. And no this is not gambling, as in gambling you get other people money when winning, but in gambling the other people know the risks and have accepted them, while in HYIPS the people think they will get their investment and profit back, when in fact they will not in the long term, so HYIP is worse than gambling.

Yeah, some people do have a moral issue with basically stealing other people's money to pay themselves - which is what you do when you successfully get a payout from a HYIP.

And yep, most people cannot predict when a HYIP will close down. So it's best to stay away.

Every HYIP sites are claiming that they are the best trusted and other bullshit just to lure people to invest in their site. Of course during the first few days of operations the service is always good, they giver your income on time but when they have already the amount of target they will disappear. So the bottom line is they are all SCAM so don't be lured by our greed of money.

Definitely, so if you are going to join hyip's try to do some research first is that site is just new.
And if that site is new then try to invest and after cashing out your earnings don't try to invest there again.

If for me, I would never try it because of the risk factor, if you can be profitable on your first investment in HYIP although it closes then you will find another HYIP thinking that you already found the method. It's like gambling if you do it, the safest way for you to earn is to join their referral program however the sad story is you earn income at the expense of others.

Well, that's true. Every penny you earn from HYIP either way is someone else's hard earned money. Neither it's yours or the admin's sweat.

There used to be a few real HYIPs, where they promise little interest and they used to pay with the profits they gained from forex. Now the things have been changed.

Though the HYIP websites claim they invest here or there, that's all just a bullshit.

Yes you can earn money if you invest first.IF you have profit you need to withdraw and gone.

Actually all are poisonous except Hashocean for early investors, they who joined since January last year, have made quite some profit now but maybe Hashocean is not a HYIP rather a ponzi, I would put them the same as you can lose money in the long run if you are not careful, so NO there are no benefits in HYIPS or ponzi.

Purpose to create HYIP sites only to steal people money, there is no source to generate income there and i think it is really hard for any investor to make profit by make investment into any HYIP site, only owner and some monitoring sites can make profit by posting fake payment proofs there.

It is very risky to invest in Hyip related sites.There are good chances for early investors to get some nice profit but this is not fair.You know you are taking advantage of other investors.All Hyip sites work till some certain point and then stop.It is not good way to invest in these sites.

HYIP are very similar to gambling. You can profit from it if you are watchful and abstemious  But you have to realize the moment you want to get up from the table and go home.
Most people are oblivious to that and they will stay in HYIP until the end - when it is usually the end.

HYIP obviously will become scam on the long run when it finally collapses.
The benefit of hyip is if you are one of the first to join them

For the point of view of the owner of an HYIP (ponzi), of course there are benefits. He's the one who's running the scam site. The only thing he/she has to do is make his investment site and make it legitimate and paying. Advertise here on BCTalk, in facebook groups, and in other crypto-related forums. After doing that, he has to enable referral/affiliate rewards so people will go invite other people themselves. He can put some money at first so that the very first customer can be paid, and then the following investors will be paid using the money of the first investors. Once he has enough or once he's satisfied with the money that he has on his website, he'll just runaway.

For the investors' POV, it can be both beneficial and not beneficial.

To get some profit out of HYIP, the investor should invest a decent amount of money at the launch of the HYIP so he's the first ever to get the ROI. If the HYIP continues, then he'll continue having profit.

Another way of getting profits from HYIP is creating an account and not depositing anything (deposit an amount if it's required in order to earn from referrals) and then promote the website with your ref-link. Just do this and you'll get some benefits out of HYIP sites as most of HYIP sites offer referral programs.

You can't get benefits from HYIP if you invested and then the next day they don't pay anymore and/or they never paid anyone at the first place. It's like you just threw away your money. You're never getting it back. You just got scammed. :)

i don't completely agree with this.

i say not completely because hypes are risky so as far as risks go they are similar to gambling and you have to have luck in order to find one that is new and not going to run away as soon as "you" deposit.

but also at the same time there is a big difference between them. HYPES are scams so the result of it is not fair while on the other hand gambling is fair you can find a legit site and make bets and even check the provably fair system to check the bet you have made.

Gambling and hyip aren't similar to me. i've never invested in hyips because they're all scams, in hyips only the owners make profit.

Early birds catches the early worms. When a hyip site will be released you should  be  first onr in the line to gain a chance, for you receive your initial invest plus the profit you will get.

that is not always true, i have seen HYIPs that have ran away the very first day of their operation, they are scams you can never count on them to honer their commitment,.

Those could be the sites which got more investments than what they have expected. Once they get what they wanted, all they gonna do is run away.

it is only good to join an HYIP if you are one of the first investors or you're sharing your affiliate link, waiting for someone to register under you and earn some profit
im just note sure if someone actually made a lot of cash and bought at least a new phone by just joining hyips

Its better to stay away from any HYIP's because there's no benifits that you can get in any HYIP's unless if they are giving a good affiliate bonus
You can get bonus without a risk but you cant promote it the referral links here maybe in other sites or forum..
if you promote it here you can get negative trust..

No matter whether it is the first or not, i still dont believe in investing in HYIP. I prefer to have a long term investment so i will keep my btc there and maybe withdraw it after a while so it will not be so tiring for me.

I agree with you. I've tried some, and I did manage to cash out in some, but in then end I got a loss and never tried them again. It's just not worth it. They all end up in scam.

HYIP is like gambling, but with stolen money. What you earn with it was stolen from another investors and you need luck to get investiment back with profits before the scheme colapses. It's not ethical and legal... But some people try their luck.

Atleast the gambling is legal in many countries, HYIP is illegal everywhere and every scam ended up as a scam.  ;D

Well yeah, it depends on the hyip owner whether it will end in just a few days or months or for another thing, it will also depends on how much bitcoin is invested on the program. It's like - More Investment - Fast Scam - less Investment - Longer time becoming a scam ( Maybe the owner is waiting for a big deposit to come in before closing ). Yes exactly! For me, it's better to go in some dice site and do a 50/50 rate of winning rather than depositing to a HYIP.

Going into HYIP is always a bad idea, this investment scam had already a negative trust from all over crypto forum. It needs a lot of luck and a little knowledge to earn in this investment. You will never knew when the site will close, lucky for you if you already get your ROI prior to its closing. Just join the referral program its risk free.

Yeah going to invest in hyip is very bad idea your risking your hard money with because all of that is ponzi scheme and trt to collect money and run if they earned a lot of money to their investors, if you think its paying well yes its paying at first to attract more investor

Not really a bad idea if you're one of the pioneers of the site. Most likely they will be the only ones to earn and get their roi. Generally, however, it is highly recommended to avoid hyip as it would most likely become a scam sooner or later.

As of now i dont get any benifits from any HYIP they are all ponzi schemes.. i always invested in any HYIPs but result they run and scam..
Its better to work hard than to invest it for nothing.. many scammers out there and inside of this forum so beware..
HYips are scam and no benefits..

Unless they are scams initially. The long-term HYIPs most certainly will not get you anything, but for the ponzi schemes that "double" your money in a few days, they may be worth testing out.

If you're lucky enough, you can gain some profit from "investing" in ponzi schemes, however, it's basically the same as gambling.

To own a HYIP/ponzi... it's dangerous. It's a stupid thing to do if you can't protect yourself, but it can be extremely profitable if you wish to steal other people's money. ;D

Honestly, I don't think that much money can be made from HYIP's/Ponzis anymore as the hype has died down, and people have wizened up.

At one point, there were so many ponzi schemes around and people were investing in them because they thought it was easy money.
Theymos even had to create a separate section for HYIP's/Ponzis.

However, after losing a lot of money, I think people have started to see that Ponzis are too good to be true, so they've stopped investing.

Theres no benefits in hyips even if you got payout because the profit that you gained is from scammed person the person who payin to payout you. Absolutely all hyips will become scam in long run but the basis of the life of hyips site is in their promo. If their promo is double your money in 1 day this hyip scam after 2-3 days. But if the hyips promo is 2.4% daily like minutbtc the life of this hyips site would be 30days-60days.

It is really sad to gain profit from an investment scheme knowing that it will scam a person. This is not a clean game, you may profit but majority losses their money. It is just appropriate to stop patronizing this kind of investment cause it will go scam sooner or later.

And we have another scammer being born. Very nice, ask advice from BT community on how to scam people. I hope you lose every single coin you plan to invest into that venture you fucking piece of shit.

But still not a good idea, why not just an individual make a business that would benefit the society. If we support this ponzi that most of them turn to scam, it will leave a negative marked to the bitcoin community and we are not promoting the bitcoin to be stable in the future.

In my opinion hype's are good from the beginning, when they are paying. Invest 2-3 times and move on to next one, because every day you can find a new one. But anyway, if you scare to lose "invesment", do not even enter. And yeah, there always be people that will throw money into those scams, so you can get you profit, just make more refs

As soon as HYIP is created and been established in the web, they aren't good in the beginning.
 
Paying is not a factor to considered if the HYIP is good or bad even they are operating for long term now.

Nah, all HYIPs end up turning scam anyways.

Stay away from HYIP.

I did join to cointellect crapwagon a few years ago and in the end i got out even but lots of people weren't that lucky. Some people invested thousands of Euros and they all got fcked.

Yeah its obvious why they are giving a free money earnings.. because they are just want to lure people to signup and invest and if they receive something from that site there's a possibilty that he can promote it in other people and once the site got more people to invest and reach the goal.
They will be run and disappear..
So better to stay away from scam ponzi hyip sites.. they are just schemes..

Absolutely, that is their marketing strategy to attract dumb people, this dumb are lured to invest because of the rates of returns that is so good to be true. At first they will be amazed because of the fast payments and think that he got the opportunity to earn interest that they cannot earn in a legit bank but without knowing the risk.

Yep! only intention of the HYIP admin's is to get rich, but not to make other rich as they promise on their site

of course you get negative trust because youre helping a potential scammer
affiliate links are credible with proof of payout as well, so im not so sure how to endorse them
btw I am not planning to promote hyips here, i just find it difficult for people to promote them here due to: 1) no affiliate links allowed and 2) as you said, negative trust
you see, it's like indirect stealing lmao

But that's not stopping people from promoting ponzi schemes here, people are still supporting those sites and getting scammed even after many warnings and crying later.

don't bother trying such sites cause simply you are taking a pure gamble unless you want to scam others and refer them to the site
I don't mind people joining HYIPs , but I hate it when I see their links all over the sites and social medias cause they are simple lying to others and there are many newbies  around that are ready to put their money in such things without even knowing what a ponzi scheme is

if you want to take such gamble I would advice you to play dice , at least you clearly know that house edge is only 1% and when you win you will get paid

If HYIPs there are even a little chances that they might get some sure interested until they close the site.

But gamble is a pure luck and no one knows if you gonna win or lose, while trying to make some profit or atleast get the investment back  ;D

PS: I'm not supporting HYIPs or advising others to invest in HYIPs. I'm just sharing my opinion.

Absolutely, and that's the benefit of HYIP for HYIP's owner. They're the only one that benefit it. But if you are really into hyip and a risk taker.
Pioneer members that joining new hyip are also the ones who benefit hyips.

Yep! I'm aware of that, I used to play with HYIPS a few years ago and my strategy was good. I used to join thru HYIP monitor sites and I'll under whoever pays the highest Refback.

and used to be quick and never reinvested. I've been trying the same technique and later my strategy failed on these new craps who's website was professional, got alot of investments and scammed on same day and some in same week.  :'(

That's it, after that I've stopped running after these HYIPs.

Really? woah! So that means that hyip owners now are being wise with that kind of strategy. Good to know that and thank you for sharing it here.
So for those who want to try hyip better to stop it and stay away, even you want to join just for 1 time and won't investing after cashing out
your first payout. Better stop it because we all know that HYIP were just scams.

Yep! Those days are gone where the HYIP owners used to do trading and share the profits with their members. Now even those who have no knowledge of trading starts an hyip, paying shitload of money to designers and developers and promoters and running away they get the good amount of investments or when the new investments stop coming.

Owner nowadays doesn't think about their members and becomes greedy all the time. We'll when money is involve they won't care about you.
They will just care about you if you have to invest, but let's change the vocabulary of investing to hyip much better to say it "give" or "donate".
Because you are not investing into hyip, but you are just giving your money to those greedy hyip owners.

haha, yes. It's not they're so greedy, it's just that they don't have business plans or ideas to really double the people's invested money as they promise on their website.

If they're smart enough as they describe themselves on their website, they wouldn't be going scam. But they think it's easier to fool people with shitty promises than risking on trading.

When they get huge amount of money, they'll go on a vacation while already hiring designers and developers to to work on their new project which they will start and scam after back from the vacation  ;D

One more thing, there were many HYIPs where they have scammed and come up with new projects with same name and guess what? These stupid promoters call them "Trusted Admin", "previous paid to alot of people". So don't miss the chance, invest and double your money.  ;D

Trusted admin? haha of course they want to secure you that they are trusted but they have hidden agenda that they only want the money that you will give to them.
"previous people gave, so don't forget to gave too"

HYIP could have some benefits only if you are on of the first investors. But after earn % you should take right moment to leave hyip. But as many already answered, at the end all benefits goes to the hyip owner.

Yes, who invests first has more chance to make profit with it. But if the scheme only bring few investors everybody is scammed, because there is nothing to be paid. The HYIP owners are always looking for referrals, and referrals of referrals, this way they survive for a bit more time, pay the first investors, share the "it's paying" message and scam all the rest on the end.

It is the marketing strategy they usually follow, that is what you called a pyramid scam, you can never profit from that kind of investment in a clean way, although you profit sometimes but knowing you get that profit while others got scammed it would not be fulfilling to you and that is not success anymore.

pyramid scheme is a different kind of scam , although there are similarities but it is different nonetheless. i don't want to go into so much details here but in pyramid scams the investors have to fool others into investing (their referrals) so they can get their money back. the more they fool the closer they get to their money.

HYIP surely is a pyramid scheming scam. Only people on the top will benefit from it with the effort of people on his downlines.
So, downline will work very hard for there money but they don't know only people from the top will benefit from it.

That's for sure and most of them are scams, but if you realize there are still a lot of idiots that were attracted to invest in this HYIP. I don't know if know the risk or just failed to accept it. If you invest on this and invite people to invest you are like a scammer also if the site turn to scam.