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Title: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 16, 2016, 07:42:28 AM
Bitcoin enthusiasts suggest the use of Bitcoin in settling remittances between the U.S and Mexico after Trump’s proposal to build a wall between the two countries will have been realised.

On April 5, Billionaire real estate tycoon and Republican front runner Donald Trump unravelled his plans to compel Mexico pay US$5 to US$10 billion for the border wall between the United States and Mexico which Trump aims to build at the start of his presidency.

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Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Yogafan00000 on April 16, 2016, 10:05:25 AM
What if Trump decide to ban all bitcoin company/exchange, block all bitcoin-related website and sue anyone who have/use bitcoin?

He's gonna trash an entire budding FinTech industry worth countless billions and related jobs just to squeeze a meager 10 billion from Mexico? 

It's easier to just get Janet to print off a few FRN's.  They used to print 6 times that amount PER MONTH when old finance tried to take down the world economy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Evildrum on April 16, 2016, 04:38:07 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1437415.0

Already have a topic on this in P&S if you want to join the two threads or not. Just a heads up as it has some decent view points in it as well on this topic.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Chef Ramsay on April 16, 2016, 04:47:41 PM
Trump needs to modify his position on this. The wall isn't necessary when Border agents are allowed to do their job properly, unlike currently where they are doormats. Gut entitlements for non-residents (for starters) so the productive will get their visas and take care of their families via working, while the breeder class stays home or is not incentivized to come here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: calkob on April 16, 2016, 04:49:16 PM
I hope so if the Mexicans get on board things could take of down there, remember Mexico is corrupt as fuck


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Evildrum on April 16, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
These issues like the flood from the Middle East and Africa to Europe seem to happen because the door is left open. If they knew they would be turned around or shot at
they would never attempt to make these voyages that are deadly in there own way. It sounds cold to say that but its reality that when you way the odds against one another people will decide to find something else.
The Middle East got bad because they started to except people in and word got out that they would be taking people in. It created a epidemic. The Mexican border is exactly the same issue because Obama started to talk about making illegals citizens and the race was on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: DimensionZ on April 16, 2016, 09:09:32 PM
I don't know what Trump is trying to achieve with this. He wants to waste more cash on building a wall than what the remittances are worth anyways what's the point of that? His ludicrous plan will just plain suck. Are there really so many Americans who hate foreigners so much as to vote for Trump? Well Genesis Mining rightfully slapped him in the face with that ad of theirs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 19, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
Might be a good slight of hand and give people something to hate and be pissed off about well the economy tanks. Better to direct the issue than to become the issue,meaning give them something to fire at unless you want to be that object.

The problem with South Americans coming across the border is more of a issue of the States controlling these Countries for so long and keeping them out of prosperity. So the chickens come home to roost when the gleaming beacon of hope is the land of the free! If these Countries where helped out of their situations instead of fed corrupt politicians it would most likley not be a issue.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: mkc on April 19, 2016, 08:33:21 PM
The reason I vote for trump is to see how this wall pan out, not that I think it is necessary  , but to see an interesting show.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 08:33:35 PM
I don't know what Trump is trying to achieve with this.

It's not so much about what Trump is trying to achieve, more what the establishment figures behind him want. That's right I said it, Trump's anti-establishment credentials are a charade; he's got deep ties to the establishment class in the US, and has done for a while, likely his whole life.

To me, it's a psychological thing. W Bush was the "idiot president", Obama the "aspirational president" and Trump is the "wild-man president", but all these are just semi-characters, as near enough all public speaking is scripted for US Presidents. I know Trump is genuinely shooting from the hip on stage, but let's not forget he's the real professional :D.

So what's the psychology behind the wall? Well, it's a political acknowledgement/manifestation of the issue that this is all leading towards: the borderless nature of the internet. There's no way that Trump is stupid enough to think this is gonna work, just remember that these campaigning politicians are playing the role of the modern-day preacher man. Anything he says that looks like he's using it to get a big crowd reaction should be looked at that way, he wants the modern day equivalent of the rapt congregation extolling "praise be" and so on.

To sum it up, not sure what the specific political card to be played is, but this proposal isn't serious. Trump knows that. It's all to do with demonstrating to the public what the 21st century really means, and presumably, how that is intended to be stopped. Or, just maybe, to demonstrate the opposite: that it can't be stopped.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 19, 2016, 09:36:59 PM
Trump is not going to win the election.  He is not going to win, and the Mexican wall is not going to exist.

**keeps chanting above**


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 09:39:50 PM
Trump is not going to win the election.  He is not going to win, and the Mexican wall is not going to exist.

**keeps chanting above**

Lol all types of things could happen between now and November (I have a funny feeling it could get increasingly/unprecedentedly bizarre). All I know is, whoever wins is a guaranteed disaster for the US, the array of candidates running have made sure of that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 19, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
Trump is not going to win the election.  He is not going to win, and the Mexican wall is not going to exist.

**keeps chanting above**

Lol all types of things could happen between now and November (I have a funny feeling it could get increasingly/unprecedentedly bizarre). All I know is, whoever wins is a guaranteed disaster for the US, the array of candidates running have made sure of that.
I don't follow politics, don't watch television, don't listen to the radio, don't get any news.  I'm pretty much a hermit and I barely know who's running.  I do know that Donald Trump would kill this country--he's a clown candidate and I actually find it hard to believe he's running for president.  I get a sinking feeling that we're all fucked.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 11:03:44 PM
I get a sinking feeling that we're all fucked.

I suspect it won't just be people from the US that get screwed: Trump claims to be non-interventionist, simultaneously spewing bellicose rhetoric about dropping nukes in the middle east. If America were attacked while Trump was president, WWIII is all but guaranteed. In other words, 19 men armed with box cutters on airliners could potentially annihilate everything. Let's try to keep it calm, people lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 19, 2016, 11:50:47 PM
A border wall is just ridiculous. Sounds to me like the Great Wall of China, the Berlin wall or the DMZ between the two Koreas. In this digital era, bitcoin will trash all these physical barriers!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 12:28:55 AM
A border wall is just ridiculous. Sounds to me like the Great Wall of China, the Berlin wall or the DMZ between the two Koreas. In this digital era, bitcoin will trash all these physical barriers!

Think the concept of a wall will be less physical than he is stating at the end of the day. Imagine more of the wall being stronger attempt to push the border towns from being feeding valves through the border.
Once they are in the States the tracking becomes harder to gauge. I know concrete placing crews here in Canada that are all illegals. Same goes for some concrete stripping crews. They hire through word of mouth and I never see officials come through to check up on them.

I see more of a wall starting farther south in these poorer Countries working on top of dropping the failed war on drugs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: konelectric on April 20, 2016, 12:38:41 AM
What if Trump decide to ban all bitcoin company/exchange, block all bitcoin-related website and sue anyone who have/use bitcoin?

He would have to ban free speech to do this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Boosterious on April 20, 2016, 09:20:03 AM
What if Trump decide to ban all bitcoin company/exchange, block all bitcoin-related website and sue anyone who have/use bitcoin?

He would have to ban free speech to do this.
its will make people who support trump reall upset,they knowing trump is the only one who support bitcoin,and then if trump ban bitcoin,its not make sense,but for me i dont too much care about that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: coinzat on April 20, 2016, 09:24:18 AM
What if Trump decide to ban all bitcoin company/exchange, block all bitcoin-related website and sue anyone who have/use bitcoin?

even with blocking all exchanges and banning bitcoin, people would not stop using bitcoin in secret. the only successful way to stop bitcoin is to shutdown the internet  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: DimensionZ on April 20, 2016, 12:37:46 PM
Trump is not going to win the election.  He is not going to win, and the Mexican wall is not going to exist.

**keeps chanting above**

I am not big into politics and I am not even American but today I saw on the news Trump and Hillary won big in Ney York City and I checked online and allegedly Hillary has a big lead over Trump. Is she going to win the election? I think Hillary would be a better choice than Trump in my opinion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 02:42:24 PM
Hilary and Trump are both bad choices,they are both protectionists meaning its going to stifle trade and create more regulations to do business with the States.
Really dislike Hilary and see her on the same level as Trump. When you think that both parties ran some one that was a bit more wacky as opposition to appease the voters.
It will not work next election but I am sure we will have a few terrorist attacks to rally around to vote Hilary in the second term when it comes time.
Its a pretty well scripted plot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Jasad on April 20, 2016, 02:42:52 PM
Trump is not going to win the election.  He is not going to win, and the Mexican wall is not going to exist.

**keeps chanting above**
maybe i agree with that,and i hope trump will not elected ;D but what side are you?who will won the election in your opinion?
time will answer about mexican wall,but i wish it never exist


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: lumeire on April 20, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
Hilary and Trump are both bad choices,they are both protectionists meaning its going to stifle trade and create more regulations to do business with the States.
Really dislike Hilary and see her on the same level as Trump. When you think that both parties ran some one that was a bit more wacky as opposition to appease the voters.
It will not work next election but I am sure we will have a few terrorist attacks to rally around to vote Hilary in the second term when it comes time.
Its a pretty well scripted plot.

Woah easy on the conspiracy theories there cowboy. But you're right, Trump is the perfect example of what's wrong with the thinking of conservative people and Hilary's a good example of an elitist. I like Bernie with his ideals, especially regarding the campaign funds. People need to see that most businessmen see these campaign 'donations' as investments.

@ontopic Bitcoin's main purpose was for these kinds of situations anyway.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 20, 2016, 05:45:07 PM
It will not work next election but I am sure we will have a few terrorist attacks to rally around to vote Hilary in the second term when it comes time.
Its a pretty well scripted plot.

Woah easy on the conspiracy theories there cowboy.

Unfortunately, false flag terrorism is a fact, not a theory. I wish that it were not the case, but we cannot wish away reality.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 20, 2016, 08:31:32 PM
Hilary and Trump are both bad choices,they are both protectionists meaning its going to stifle trade and create more regulations to do business with the States.
Really dislike Hilary and see her on the same level as Trump. When you think that both parties ran some one that was a bit more wacky as opposition to appease the voters.
It will not work next election but I am sure we will have a few terrorist attacks to rally around to vote Hilary in the second term when it comes time.
Its a pretty well scripted plot.

Woah easy on the conspiracy theories there cowboy. But you're right, Trump is the perfect example of what's wrong with the thinking of conservative people and Hilary's a good example of an elitist. I like Bernie with his ideals, especially regarding the campaign funds. People need to see that most businessmen see these campaign 'donations' as investments.

@ontopic Bitcoin's main purpose was for these kinds of situations anyway.

Hey I thought I was actually doing fine with my tinfoil hat,used to listen to Alex Jones for 3 hours a day ranting in my ear and I started to feel conspiracies everywhere now,I touch on conspiracies from time to time but not to the same extent.
Hilary is going to have to win the people over quickly as she strips more freedoms and plans more proxy wars.
The fact she has never answered for anything and the money that flowed to her,scares me to think how many people are going to die to pay for her warchest.
Its the poor kid growing up in a town with no hope that runs into a military recruiter promising a better life,see the world that ends up paying for it in the end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: btcusury on April 21, 2016, 02:29:50 PM
I don't know what Trump is trying to achieve with this.

It's not so much about what Trump is trying to achieve, more what the establishment figures behind him want. That's right I said it, Trump's anti-establishment credentials are a charade; he's got deep ties to the establishment class in the US, and has done for a while, likely his whole life.
He's got deep ties to the "establishment class", of course, but the difference is that he cannot be bought. Trump is out for Trump; the politicians are puppets willing to sell (or in the case of the smarter ones like Hillary, rent) themselves to the puppeteers. There hasn't been such an American president since at least 1962.

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To me, it's a psychological thing. W Bush was the "idiot president", Obama the "aspirational president" and Trump is the "wild-man president", but all these are just semi-characters, as near enough all public speaking is scripted for US Presidents. I know Trump is genuinely shooting from the hip on stage, but let's not forget he's the real professional :D.
Notice though the major, major, major difference in how the MSM treats Trump. That's what tells you that Trump really is a full-character "wild-man president".

I'm an anarchist, BTW, yet I think it's obvious that Trump is the only "hope" for Americans near-term. The last thing you want is another politician, all of whom cater to the special interests and thinktank-generated geopolitical agendas. Trump is a manager and treats the job as another business. Assuming he's fundamentally honest, as he seems to be, the degree to which he will do good is the degree to which he doesn't allow himself to be fooled by the bad actors (including the funders of ISIS and false flag operators).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall
Post by: Yipdard on May 23, 2016, 10:06:32 PM
Yes, It can help mexicans to overcome Trump's Border Wall.