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Hey Munero  clowns, u said urs is the best and the other one is a blatant scam

why are u not added ? why is the scam added ?

something doesnt feel right here. seems like Munero is not famous :D

~CfA~

Want an explanation? Getting listed on an exchange is pretty easy when you get a nice centralized instamine like Dash did. You just pay the exchange to get your shit listed. All the exchanges in the world won't make Dash a superior privacy option to Monero.

to OP

you.. you .. opened :

https://i.imgur.com/OsOsl2N.jpg

there is no going back now  ;)

I don't have any opinion on the topic, but getting listed on BTC-E is definitely not "easy". They decide what they want to add or not.

I would have thought they'd never add anything new.

It just goes to show that XMR can have the best technology in the world but if they don't have money for promotion then they can't succeed.

Dash's instamine was the best thing that could have happened to Dash. It's important to be able to buy marketing.

It doesn't matter how big the Monero community is... it could be the biggest community in the world but if there's no money in the pot for promotion it's always going to be on the losing foot.

Take Bernie Sanders... arguably the biggest community with the best tech, but stands no chance next to Hillary Clinton.

I know many people in the Bitcoin and Monero community are sour grapes about the fact Evan Duffield is a millionaire and Dash has greater exchange adoption. But this is the nature of the playground.

The truth is, people are driven by greed, whether that be Dash speculators, exchange owners, or developers.

You gotta have the money bro, else you can't party!!  ;D  :D  ;D

Instamined dash will always be the same shit as it has always been up to now. Its "privacy" feature is nothing but pure shit!

Dash once also was on Bitfinex but they soon kicked out this shit coin. BTC-E may do the same to dash anytime.

BTC-e always doing the same. Buying a large pile of a certain coin and announce the listing. - They pump it up and sell on top. Nothing more. (Not as regular as some other exchanges, but they're buying larger amounts before ;) )

Regards,
ChekaZ

i already sense a lot of butthurt forming, so for those that need it :

https://i.imgur.com/ZaDqmHC.jpg

edit : eh, it will cost 1 Dash and can be bought at BTC-e  ;D
note : it will cost you 5 Dash if your name starts with generalize  ::)

You can't market bad design out of a coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0)

This is lovely

Plz all the Munero holders come in my thread and tell me why Munero is so good!

~CfA~

The proof is in the pudding. You can market bad design. How else do you explain greater exchange adoption?

Maybe they thought Poloniex has cornered the Monero market. I guess we should all watch and wait they might add it later, and they might even ditch Dash if it doesn't really perform well in the one way that counts for the (volume of trades generating fees).

oh come on, let's stick to the important things here... Dash doesn't even work: http://blog.makemoneywhileyouwork.com/2016/01/11/using-alt-coins-to-mix-bitcoins/

good luck with that

And I'm sure that perpetual motion machine you just bought will work forever.  ::)

What I said was "You can't market bad design out of a coin."

There is really no luck involved : its all about prioritizing development, providing clear roadmaps, giving feedback to your community
and making sure the core tasks of your cryptocurrency (Darksend, InstantX, Decentralised Budget system) get as much attention (update 12.1) as
developing a more userfriendly third-tier orientated light wallet with help of DAPI and python code langage (Dash Evolution).

Note : the coretasks work fine currently but its always a good thing to analyse them to see if they can get optimized and work more efficiently.





    

jup, the core-task of 'anonimyzing' your coins obviously works 'fine when one has to wait ages for it...


anyway, enjoy your spott while it lasts indeed... the currency you're defending is all wrong (just the basics of what should be considered good cryptography, good money, whatever...) and thus doomed

DSH not DASH

and i hold some DSH .. dashcoin trolololol  ;D

Yay, another XMR versus DASH thread. These 2 communities are the most annoying here on the forum. We get it already XMR has no wallet and DASH was instamined...let's move on.

BTC-e are they relevant these days? especially for a coin that has been out for years on other larger or = size exchanges. You wanted dash scam coin you could have got them elsewhere by now.

Yeah going from yobit to btce could do you some good. Going from other huge exchanges to btce = non event.

Kindly STFU.

The entirety of the Dash community never gave a single flying fuck about Moronero. Most of them never even heard of Moanero before.
Before what? Before they started a 2 year smear and harassment campaign of relentless shitposting, flaming and trolling on all available channels. The disgusting behaviour of Trollero made them universally hated in this forum as evidenced here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066829.0

Dash reacting and countering the bullshit accusations of Failero does not make our community the bad guys for defending ourselves against these degenerates. Had Monero stfu, nothing would have happened, as Dash NEVER attacked Monero once without provocation so if you wanna complain, be their guest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

But leave Dash out of it.

Maybe this will help you understand.  The title of this thread is


Dash vs Monero shitposting from Dashboys.  It's like Donald Trump saying "The presidential race isn't classy ... too much slander and rhetoric going on.  Don't blame me."

lolz

Yeaaaah its all a big scammy thing just like "insert name here" go to hell everyone else "insert name here" will always winning! Truth blood!!

Peace out

If I sold all my monero tomorrow, I'd still be calling Dash what it is - instamined, weaksauce privacy wannabe coin. Hating dash doesn't need an ulterior motive - it can suck on its own. :)

XMR lol, who falls into that trap. But ok, Dash is still a boring one....an old instamined coin which still seems to be alive and well.

XVC is the only coin which should need to get the attention. TCP/UDP network, instant transaction, super anonymous and more features on its way. But who am i lol :)

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Or a single. fucking. innovation on its own.

Dash on the other hand:

i hate to break it to you but i dont think the OP (From Above) is a Dashboy.... he does however like to sting the hornets a bit.
and boy are they pissed..

https://i.imgur.com/7elFnbE.png

I can't remember, but I think you inspired this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14509987#msg14509987 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14509987#msg14509987)

Let's leave the haters hating, qwizzie.

Success is proving Dash right every day we're still up in the Top 5 of all cryptocurrencies and no amount of shitposting is going to change that, no matter how much Moanero's rectum is burning right now.


DASH on BTC-E: Suck it.  :)

It's been attacked by everyone that does not approve of being told totally fair POW mining at the start. Who then proceeded to scam all miners at launch by captive instamining huge amounts of the coin and then slashing the minting to get a greater advantage than they already scammed themselves.

If you want a huge amount of the minting just take it. Don't make out it's all fair and then make it totally unfair.

Dash = scam coin.

It will not wriggle out of it.

BTC-e years ago = big deal
BTC-e now = BTC who?

Listing that scam coin will damage what little reputation it had left.

Price of Dash will sink like a stone after a while as Btce dump their holdings they accumulated before listing.

Damn, i still have difficulty believing it, Dash on BTC-e... i think i need to repeat it a few more times to myself before i can accept it.

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yep, that worked.

Im actually quite impressed that dash has made it this far. Even with all the dramas ive heard it still seems to be holding a good value. Im still not sure if it would be worth investing in though,still seems like it might be quite a big gamble. Especially since prices are quite high. It would mean quite a large investment to make any money back,

If you have doubts, simply don't invest. And in contrast to sanctimonious smooth who tries reverse psychology on unsuspecting potential Monero victims when he says something like that, I actually mean this.

Just quoting for posterity. See you a year from now  ;D

I don't think you understand the scope of what the Dash project is trying to accomplish. We have a goal of being digital cash for the entire world. Even if we achieve only one percent of our goal, the price will be orders of magnitude higher than current prices... As I've said in the "Internet of Money" thread, we're coming. It's up to you if you want to be along for the ride...  ;D

Cheers,

Tao

Given that this a not-official topic and that I am a total retarded in coin world, may I ask to XMR fanboys why do you think that Monero is good?

Forget about Dash for a minute, I really want to learn. I have some Dash but this isn't important in my view. I am a totally avg guy that knows just the basics, and I think that Dash has (and actually is developing) some unique features. Monero isn't, apart for not delivering; just nothing that I see good from a mktg/finance perspective.

But I may be wrong. Just tell me why, I want to learn :)

Basically Monero relies on the protocol or the math to ensure privacy and Fungibility.  At this point it's really the only viable currency with those unique attributes.

It also addresses other concerned like building around planning for hard forks so it's not scary & dynamic block sizes.  

The development has been slower as Ring Signatures required a new code base (unable to copy bitcoin's code base).

No disrespect but dashs goal to be a world currency is the same as many other coins yet they all fall short. Ive read many of the arguments for and against and maybe some day will invest a bit into dash but how much i dont know. One coin will make it eventually, its just being in the right boat thats important.

Agreed. "Whatever floats your boat!", like my mom always says...  :P

Every coin devs could pay for their coins to be listed in BTC-E or other exchanges. It's pretty easy to figure out. Since their business relies on trading fees and the fees they get before a coin goes live on trading in their platform (plus hidden premiums, for ninja add lol), DASH could probably did just that. Also, BTC-E is a reputable exchange and have been in the scene for far too long now, so I guess no fishy things happened in the background there.

Good picture of Evan.

Kinda sums him up really.

I bet she plays football as well Evan designs coins.

You mean the Dash that got delisted from Bitfinex? :D

Exactly - the instamined shit delisted by Bitfinex :D

never underestimate the power of pretty blondes..

never held a single dash or xmr, i just am here to laugh at xmr trolls...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Laughing-Animated-Gif-01.gif

It's fun to see new coins on BTC-E after all! 8)

I hope they keep the trend of adding a gem or two once in a while, so that we can see other great platforms that have truly pushed innovation forward added too. For now, two new ones are a great start and there are some more to keep ones eyes on!

This is the first thing that came to me my mind when I saw the news, going to be some major butthurt, get the popcorn. I don't hold either coins either, too low risk, low reward for me.

I didn't know the success of a coin is measured based on its availability on BTC-E.  ;D

Agreed. Even though I never supported DASH, because there are better sollutions with more modern codebases out there, I still laugh at the monero trolls. They fight so hard versus DASH and will never win, because DASH supporters aren't a bunch of lifeless trolls who live to make other's day miserable.

DASH has admittedly good ideas while Monero didn't achieve anything in the past year except trying to fix a broken codebase for a project that will never be suited to be used as a true currency for daily transactions or a store of value. It will never achieve adoption. Must be hard to swallow, thus all the trolling and negativity.

Grabbing my biggest popcorn to date:

https://horrorjuice.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/popcornhugebags.jpg

It might not be a succes meter, sure is a butthurt one :) and it shows this:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fDK7J8BhQLg/hqdefault.jpg

i heard btc-e only adds coins with official GUI wallets  :P

congratulations to DASH and Ethereum!

Shorter version of Tao:

"Don't judge Dash based on it's "accidental" instamine and scumbag emission cut actions, judge Dash on it's beautiful glittering intentions to create unicorns running under clear blue skies!"

I like the DASH. It's on a good path as we can see! 8)

Epic put down.  So true.

The best testimony to that effect was provided by a Dash core dev, upon quitting the project in disgust:


Sorry DashHoles, but BTC-E isn't going to give you the "gold donkey" (although I admit it may help you "exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space").

It was a funny time when I found out the Monero devs had secret miners and my own farm had not remotely the performance they had. Needless to say I felt s.. Same about Dash in the beginning. Now both are over that phase. Both have been further developed. But objectively can the state of development between the two even be compared? To me it seems like a caffeinated powerhouse versus spaced out depressed in terms of technological comparison. Monero should have stepped up its game when it still could.

"not remotely?"

You are exaggerating the performance gap between the un-de-optimized miners and the original.

There was no orders-of-magnitude type speed-up when more efficient mining software became publicly available.

Your massive sense of entitlement to be provided, for free, with the fastest miner available is offensive.

Wolf0, Claymore, etc deserve every tacoshi they earned from selling/renting better software.

How long have you been with the Free Shit Army?  ;)

Dude, there is no reverse psychology. By far, most of my net worth is non-crypto and by far most of my crypto net worth (which even includes a bit of Dash) is Bitcoin. I'm not a true believer in any of these coins by any means, especially any alts, so when I tell people this coin or that coin is not a good (or at best a dangerous) investment, I really mean it, and I practice what I preach.

Anyway, congrats to Dash. Getting recognized by a major exchange is a significant event.

nice. the monero people would be jumping for joy if they got listed by a major exchange. and i too would be the first to congratulate them.

Did you ever congratulate them when Monero was paired with coins on Poloniex?

This was my first thought as well. Of course everyone supporting Monero would be celebrating if their token was added to BTC-E. Trying to downplay BTC-E as a subpar non-important exchange kind of shows of disappointment. Anyway congratulations to the whole DASH team and all supporters. Now lets look for a boost in volume and price appreciation!

Congratulations from me also to team and supporters. What you people think how will that reflect on volume and price?
Can we now say that dash is nice coin for long term holding?

I believe so. The masternode incentives and blockchain funding are proving to be great tools in storing away funds at the same time strengthening the network. With the ongoing development of "Evolution" I'm sure DASH can be adopted by a wider population too, which of course if great for growing the userbase and getting more interest and attention. These factors will help the long term value, especially since the Cryptsy DASH dumping hopefully has ended by now.

Thanks Smooth. Out of all the detractors, I find you to be the most reasonable. May XMR make it to BTC-e one day as well. Respect.

but NOT if you are a dash (or any other anon coin) developer, right iceball?

I agree, it's a nice action from Smooth to say congrats to a competitor.

Can't tell though if it has something to do with him investing/supporting the biggest instamined/premined project of bitcointalk so far which will scam/buttfuck every late investor or if it's a legit change (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.msg14668128#msg14668128).

This moderated topic has just been made by 3duardoBreaker: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1453109.0

Talking about the "DASH spam" on the forum, coming from the biggest scammer/spammer troll in the whole bitcoin scene

This is probably the most awesome proof that the forum will be flooded withhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformice/images/c/ca/Tear-icon.png/revision/latest?cb=20140411010612s of the trolls.

Click here:

Fair enough, but now I am not sure why you still feel the urge after a year of spamming the DASH threads to still talk around the same information about the instamine. It's almost as if you guys have some form of compulsive disorder. If you would be able to reach a new crowd with the information repeated in the threads (ex. you see someone commeting with: "Oh, I didn't know that, I'm new here) that would be called a "reward" thus not counting as a compulsive disorder. You are simply hurting the image of this forum, DASH and it's supporters aren't hurting it with it's mere existence and presence. Evan was the only one hurting it with the early action and not the people who support/invest into it currently after all the advancements.

You do see that a fair amount. I don't happen to have a link for that one, but I know I've seen it within the past month or two. If there were never anyone new here, we should just all leave, because, well, that's going to happen anyway as people leave one by one. It isn't, as much as it may seem that way sometimes.

But anyway, that's off topic for this thread I believe.

I'm sure you agree Tao should stop posting DashSpam links in the body of his posts instead of his sig, where it belongs.

The only tears I'm shedding are from laughing at the ridicule of Dash going on in the btc-e trollbox.   :D

Unlike the scamcoin pumpers at Cryptsy, btc-e users don't think highly of Dash's "accidental" instamine and bad crypto.

Monero has by far the worst community and the biggest market cap to technological advancement disparity within the altcoins. Don't expect Monero to go anywhere with all the Bitcoin 2.0,3.0 projects getting recognition and competent developers jumping on crypto. You are supporting a fork with bugfixes and the only marketing campaign you guys could come up with is trying to shame other projects to raise your own projects worth. Monero is neither good for daily transactions nor as a store of value.

They wouldn't even talk about you on BTC-E's trollbox since you will never get on BTC-E. All I see on this forum is the salt of the Monero community since more than a year. So keep dropping those http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformice/images/c/ca/Tear-icon.png/revision/latest?cb=20140411010612http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformice/images/c/ca/Tear-icon.png/revision/latest?cb=20140411010612http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformice/images/c/ca/Tear-icon.png/revision/latest?cb=20140411010612s because you may find someone who didn't see them yet.

Oh and I couldn't care less on Tao's comments because I never see them. Neither do I actually see DASH spamming in competitors threads, I never saw them on any of the threads which I frequently visit or on the threads of the projects which I support. You know what I did see? Monero trolls everywhere like you, you are such a lowlife scammer Eduardo.

lol he removed my comments, he is in full troll-tard mode now, desperate moments i see

You wasted your time defending Tao's DashSpam, but nobody will ever see the futile, deleted effort.   :'(

hahahahahahaha


after you called btc-e as something like "outdated" it's quite funny that you now read the trollbox there :D

hahahaha

no, you're wrong. i couldn't care less of dash or any dash community member.

i only hate the trolls shit fest this forum has evolved to and a significant amount of degeneration comes from your account (and all the other ones you create)


and again, for the newcomers: icebreaker is a well known scammer (https://hashfastscam.wordpress.com/), i mean a real scam where people actually lost money

And there will be no one new if you keep up the attitude compulsive disorder with your friends so you might just want to start the exodus.

The whole idea that you can't criticize a coin for a bad launch or bad design is absurd. Look at the Bitcoin threads and you'll see devs, critics, investors, and speculators all trying to figure out the good and bad of Bitcoin's design. My guess is that if the alt coin section became one big circle jerk of hype and moon promises, that no one serious would stick around--it would be just speculators looking to jump from one pump to another.

Anyways,  I'll let you get back to your positive "Monero, you mad bro?" thread.

Still waiting, little cunt(h) :)

DASH have the bigger capitalisation. This coin is more valuable and famous)

http://www.scienceclarified.com/photos/dune-and-other-desert-features-2873.jpg  http://science-all.com/images/desert/desert-04.jpg

Did I say that? Maybe I said for a motivated attacker, but I'd like to see a quotation--I certainly don't have the resources to break any coin's anonymity unless all it requires is a blockchain explorer.

What I said, and Evan Duffield will back me up on this, is a cryptosystem that doesn't employ privacy at the protocol, is suboptimal or second rate when compared to cryptosystems that have protocol level privacy features.

I somewhat covered the "break it " argument in this thread #2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374

Let's remember that shadowcash supporters were hectoring Monero supporters with the same "break it" argument--up until Shen broke it.

Honestly, it seems dumb to break it atm, since etholution is purported to have another privacy scheme that uses end-to-end encryption--though if you layer it with paynodes, you're most likely to end up with the same second rate privacy--would be nice to see a white paper with the required math to go along with the endless stream of promises. But, why do that, when noobs can be fooled with a few infographics and the repetition of invalid assertions?

But if you feel so strongly about your privacy features, why don't you sign up for this? Notice it's for transactions and messaging.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/04/secure-messenger.html (http://thehackernews.com/2016/04/secure-messenger.html)

My guess is that experts, who understand what a motivated attacker is and does, will need about two seconds to see the obvious flaws in dash's design. But feel free to enter and have your shitty privacy coin invalidated by an authority bigger than any one that resides on BCT, maybe that reality check will free up the time I waste correcting your false assertions, but my guess is you'll go full-Cruise and say it's a conspiracy against scientology dash to prevent it from reaching its moon base.

Seems like you cut a lot out of my post? Must not have liked what I said, so I'll repost until it sinks in.

Indeed, great to see DASH (ticker symbol: DSH) on BTC-E and not some random idiotic shitcoin added there, while trading with increasingly high volume.

Also nice to own the "Dashcoin" (whatever that was) github and the entire legal rights and trademarks to the name.

BTC-E clearly made a great choice by adding DASH (DSH) invented by Evan Duffield, the first cryptocurrency in the world with paid full nodes, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, decentralized governance, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, effective blockchain-funding, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history and I think I forgot: unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history.

Sure happy to be trading DASH (DSH) on BTC-E now!

PS:

When will my hero come and tell me the secret?  :'(

I remember time when: "Poloniex was most scammy exchange where 90% of volume is fake."   I wonder who used this line often during last year.


I am glad you guys now enjoy Poloniex since it is perfect exchange. And you make most of it. Exchange where 2 main coins are BTC and Monero.

There might be another such exchange. But this time totally decentralized.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-crypto-show-with-peter-todd-manfred-karrer-zhou-tonged-and-brian-deery

at 25:00

Lets hope Dash will get listed there also as a pair and not a main coin as Monero of course.

Dash folks, enjoy it while it lasts.  Won't be long though.   Mark my words!

You're right, Monero won't last for long :D

you own what?  ;D

yeah right.. keep owning your shit that comes out of your mouth.

DSH is Dashcoin

I know it pains you DASH shills that DSH Dashcoin is here to stay haha.

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

come on u know urself this is utter junk

sry to be so harsh but what good does it do to be a fan of this

come on be real to urself brother.

~CfA~

I am being honest. I'd rather have a coin that delivers the best in something that I'm interested in than one that promises moon while delivering second rate in everything. I'd also rather learn CLI than use a rebranded Bitcoin wallet that some DEVs threw out there in their rush to get as much noob money as possible.

Yobit doesn't list monero, right?  The only other exchange I have an account on is poloniex and I haven't logged on there in months.   Do they sell it? 

Polo does--they even offer XMR pairs.

it really hurts me to see delusion running that deep

i really dunno how could this happen to you

~CfA~

Yeah, I'm delusional.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0

I know. But its treatable.

~CfA~

Guess they can't treat missing sarcasm as of yet. Now we're both off-topic.

But gen, I wasn't offtopic, this entire topic was meant to exhibit that Monero intrinsically runs on the delusional idea that it is a bitcoin successor, that its privacy function is THE privacy function the world needs and all the bla. Its not an important coin and its not needed, its not famous and its time is passé.
Why do Munero supporters dont understand this, I mean still? Its really weird
I thought u were much smarter than this, u should be able to see through this easily.

~CfA~

Considering it has cryptographers and dashers are paying for soda machines and advertisements instead of designing a cryptosystem that works as stated--I think you're projecting your own delusions onto a community that understands that technology is built on math, not empty promises.

You rather support a project and it's developers, who didn't even invent the innovation you seek, but rather forked it and couldn't come out with a wallet in 2 years? Sorry, but it shows heavy incompetence. Don't even expect them to fix the memory heavy and bloated nature of that blockchain in the near future (if ever).

Not saying you should support DASH, but stop licking the balls of the Monero devs already.

I'd rather the coin was built to standard before the official wallet was released, not vice versa. Priorities. Also, bloat is well handled by the DB and I can handle CLI, so don't worry about what me or the Monero Devs should focus on.

you are the zealot here DSH Dashcoin copycat..who would say anything just to further your own agenda.

wanna call me icebreaker again? haha

@generalizethis
..any time i have asked you questions you have vanished.

- Tell us all how many and which accounts you have posted here with.
- Then tell us all how many Monero coins you have and when did you start hoarding them ?

Like i get it your a shill but i have reminded you many times that you are not good at it.
You do more harm than good yet ..plow on.

Anyway this really is shocking news to me wow.
I did not expect to see this coming.. BTCe rarely add's new coins.

And YES this does reflect badly to some extent on Monero i think.

I had you on ignore, so tough to answer any question that I hadn't read.  ;)

How many coins I own is none of your business, just like my paycheck is none of you business--unless you get a job with the IRS, this will continue to be none of your business forever and ever and ever.

I have one account that I post with and that is it. I think I created another one over a year ago, but never posted with it--the Mods can validate that and I'd have no problem with it.

Now, you're going back on ignore--annoying that you talk to me like I don't have you on ignore when I've stated that you are. I might have to just respond that you are on ignore so you don't play the "Look he's running from my question!" card again.

e-cash must be fungible, untracable, unlinkable. Dash being the best implementation of these values -> added to btce

LOL.

Here's Evan saying that the current dash anonymity scheme isn't what you want--maybe he'll put out a white paper with the required math a few months after he's said that it's fixed. Even the "lead scientist" of dash thinks you're wrong.

Min 2:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5sNx7SMTP8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5sNx7SMTP8)

I really need to add decentralized to that list also--how else are you supposed to make it antifragile enough to disrupt the current system?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0

thanks for reposting, i haven't watched that q&a in awhile. good stuff! 

Hmmm....

Not sure if invalidating your current anonymity scheme with the promise of vaporware is "good promotion," but as they say, "One man's trash is another man's bag to defend and hold at even the cost of cognitive dissonance."

DASH has got about 6 months to last on BTC-e you know how it is over there, coin goes on, coin goes off when volume drops.  DASH has very low volume.

generalizthis, Has been on me 100's of times before..
100% of the time he pops up to *try* and defend Monero
..other than that you won't see him say a word.. ever.
His account is solely used for Shilling Monero.

He claims to have me on ignore ?
Ya because i have utterly pwned his ass to hell & back 100's of times before.
..always over MONERO.

The guy simply sucks balls at Shilling Monero.. he is bad at it.
Every time he opens his mouth he digs a hole for himself deeper & deeper..
His no. 1 go to routine / retort tactic is to create diversion and then
start arguments about something else.. (he thinks thinks helps him win arguments)

generalizthis is a clown and i laugh at him  :D

Lets start with his last "i have you on ignore" reply i just got.
He has no other accounts and has me "on ignore" yet he seen my comment ? ROFL
He DOES have other accounts and he is denying it knowing theymos won't tell me even
if theymos had hard proof.. so he is lying again ..because he's a liar.

And of course he won't tell me how many Monero shitcoins he is bag holding.
He says it's none of my business ?
Actually it IS my business and it puts his intense ridiculous never ending shilling / trolling into context.
And his answer was rather telling regardless.. he basically admitted now he DOES have some.
So we can safely bet he's sitting on a rather sizable pile of Monero shit coins.

I can smell this Monero cockroach a mile away.
He could pick any account name and i will smell his "fungability" ass in heart beat.
theymos would know ?
Not if he used a proxy

And that snotty mouthy little shill-tard tried saying he had me on ignore ?
BULLSHIT !
He did NOT have me "on ignore" WHEN I HAD ASKED MANY TIMES BEFORE.
He had heard me before quite clearly and is yet again lying through his teeth.
See that right there show cases the type of deceitful games he plays here all the time.

Every time i pwn his ass hard here he vanishes for another month or two  ;D
..go back to hiding Monero clown baggy.

Drown Monero tard's your retard scam coin is sinking like the titanic and you deserve it too.
Why ?
Because the people who have swirled around it for damn near two years
are sleazy manipulative deceitful little bag holders following Risto around looking for scraps.
And the public sees who is behind this shit coin and they steer clear of it !
Risto the rich guy's coin and his dev who takes a "pay check" and
their bagholder spamming shill clowns deserve to go broke.

I highly advise people to avoid this scammy Monero ANON gimmick crap ponzi coin.
Do NOT buy their bags !

PS:
Ignore this Investard..

http://cliparts.co/cliparts/8cA/b5d/8cAb5dXXi.png

@Spoetnik


You need to cut loose and let these clowns get the full on "Spoetnik Experience"


We need some Spoetnik classic!


I don't think they could handle it.



~BCX~

In time i HAVE been trying hard to tone it down and turn the other cheek.
I don't want to be the abrasive confrontational problem guy around here.
I also think you all can spend your BTC on what ever Altcoin you want..

I have a problem with IPO / ICO's big time..
2nd of all i have a problem with the supporters (Shill's) of coins
who hang around the Crypto scene with this attitude like they are perfect and have done no wrong.

I have said for almost two years the biggest problem i would see with Morono
is the behavior of the "usual suspects" that swirl around it.

If there is anything that casts a negative light on Monero the same 4 or 5 guys spring into action
With mass denial.
And then they go on the attack with Dash yet again.
I had guys rag on me about this on IRC a few times..
They say why don't you go after Dash guys ? ..their coin is fundamentally just as bad etc.

And i said yeah you *may* be right but the key difference i see is the Monero crew's behavior.
Like they may be a similar functioning coin with similar features
but the similarity ends there.. then it comes down to the "community" behind them.
So compare them !

I also said that it makes no difference if Dash is a scam when criticizing Monero.
So what ? Does Dash being a scam lend more credibility to Monero being more legit ?
NO.
Monero has to stand on it's own two feet.

I personally believe Anon coins are a bad idea and will be tough to keep secure over time.
(Who's security job is this ? the "NOT" Team Members ?) You have faith in them vs the worlds hackers ?
I also think they drove the ANON gimmick idea way back as a means to justify doing *another* coin.
2 years ago they couldn't simply make a clone of Litecoin and parade it around.
They needed to put a gimmick in and some convoluted Anon crap was just what was needed.

This whole crew were doing this shit before Monero existed..
And common sense tells you that these "dev's" simply refine their game.
Tripping these guys up used to be sooo easy the further you go back.
But in time they caught on and started to get more crafty with their shenanigans.
And the new guys buy into their crap with out question.
And i know what that is like i was eating up Feathercoin's crap babble when i got here way back as a Noob.
You think think Phenix / Unocs guys simply wandered off forever ? How about the ORB dev's ?
Fuck no ! ..these same sleazy scammers are STILL here STILL making "schemes" !

The Monero guys KNOW damn well they are watched and criticized.
And they should be too.
When that guy i mentioned shows up he acts like the Monero "Team" has not been caught up in drama.
I have watched these guys for 2 years and i could write a 2 inch thick book about Morono shenanigans.
and what bothers me to no end is the DENY each and every single part of it then go on in compete denial.
Which example do you guys want ? i could pull out tons of them.

It's not about making 'A' mistake..
It's about denying you ever made even ONE in your life.

Mew topic ?
How does 2 guys who said they are NOT on the Monero team control the coin ?
With no oversight ?
An inept kid and a millionaire bag holder who was a noob to Altcoins until he made a few hundred grand worth..
and other misc bag holder knobs looking for a paycheck.

Coming from guy(s) who said they are "leaving bitcointalk" almost 2 years ago.
..after the whole crypto scene revolted against them way back for their non stop spamming.
Then they never did leave.. then later, they claimed that huge drama never even happened !

Then they claim they never advertised here ever.
Then we see the MEW topic Treasurer who is holding the donated Monero coins.
Caught in a news story about his associates arrested for FRAUD by the FRENCH POLICE
..with that story tied to him admitting he STARTED a Monero "Marketing Company"
Then we have the other NOT a TEAM Member on the MEW topic "mighty king Risto"
saying he spent the donated funds his not a team member treasurer was holding (David Latapie)
On a topic here he claimed was a "powerful adoption asset"
When one of their own Monero supporters asked did you get permission to spend the donated funds ?
King Risto declared the guy a Troll then answered his question (on the MEW topic)
Saying yeah, he spent the money and NO he got no permission from anyone.
On what ?

- They said the money was earmarked for adoption..
and that he thought the best plan was to create a Bitcointalk forum game here called "Retro City"
Where he was hanging out on Poloniex way back and had told me laughing he made thousands
on his first forum game topic.. so duh like WTF guys what the fuck does that have to do with "Adoption"
And how the hell does that translate into and i quote "a powerful adoption asset"
Then take away my OWN OPINION and read the MEW topic..
The person that asked was not impressed with being called a "Troll" and said hey look, i am SUPPORTER
but i just have questions.. and their own supporters were NOT impressed with that stunt either !

Don't believe me ? the guy is on the bottom of the user list on Cryptsy IRC 24/7 (wpalczynski (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165125))
and the MEW topic shows the info for all to see.. Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg12619507#msg12619507)
And yet all we hear from Monero shills is they are squeaky clean with a sparking flawless perfect reputation.
They have done no wrong ever and then they play the victim and cry FUD & Troll non stop.
While scheming their fucking ass off for years on end.

The loser(s) swirling around the coin have screwed it up bad and ruined any chance it ever going anywhere.
It is run by clowns who are not "a part of the team"
..yet make the decisions and spend the money etc.
Then run here and Troll on Dash and run their mouth and play innocent..

At the end of the day if you all want to invest in their "Anon" coin then go for it.
I am simply trying to say dig beneath the surface and look at their LOOONG history of shenanigans.

And... when it comes to Dash,
Those guys just have not been feeding me all along for 2 years all that crap antics here on the forum.
Those guys seem to have a the ability to keep their spamming to a fair level etc.
Do we see a Dash spam topic on the very top of page one here 24/7 for 2 years ?
I am fine with all of them advertising etc it's just that the Monero guys make up 90% of all of it
and then have the balls to come here for 2 years saying they have never ever made any effort to do so.

(if people did not tell them to STFU i can't imagine how bad they would be by now)

While admitting word for word they started a Morono marketing company
and then created a forum game to spam here for "powerful adoption assets"
This type of moronic scheming deceptive clowny behavior makes me distrust them !
This is not how HONEST people behave..

PS:
Don't forget to buy your Monero merch "secure & untraceable" hoodies <-- a real thing  ::)
..then head over to Poloniex and buy some ANON coins with your picture ID.
Then, Buy some Crack & AK47's on the new Silk Road and let me know how "untraceable" it REALLY is  :D

i do believe there is some wealthy monero investor that pays $$$ for certain posts.

otherwise i cannot explain how this people are:

- ready 24/7 to reply any damn post in a matter of seconds
- repeating the same things over and over for months (try to go back 10 months in the forum history and you'll find the same people posting same crap)
- creating multiple account with very similar writing style, often questioning each other

almost everyday i get censored (post removed) for my opinion about this monero supporters so i do believe i'm not completely wrong, i wonder how long it will take to get this post removed aswell

I'm posting this minutes after you posted, therefore I must be getting paid--right?

Here's more shitcoiner logic you can throw at me since you can't explain away your lead Dev criticizing your privacy scheme while shilling the vaporware intended to fix it--maybe someday he'll have the whitepaper with the required math to fill in the gaps. My guess is greed and fantasy will do the job for most dashers in the meantime.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14509987#msg14509987

I'll probably have to post a "guide to time wasting management for trolls and shills," so Sputz gets that most people get his game.

again, i couldn't care less about any altcoin. i'm here for bitcoin and sometime i trade some altcoin for fun.
so yeah, you can believe i'm a dash shill as much as you want, is not true at all.

the reason i still keep on posting against the monero-troll-wave is because you guys turned this forum in a shit storm and is really annoying to see for MONTHS the same posts by the same people pushing the same agenda. why can't we have nice things in this world?

Not sure I ever called you a dash shill, and I didn't just now, but if you think dash is a nice thing or this discussion thread isn't about hashing out which coins are legitimate technology and which ones are just here to rip off noobs or worse, then you'll probably never get why I criticize dash. What I don't get is why anyone defends it, but that's why there is a continual rehashing of the same points that get lost over time and need to be revisited. I went to the trouble of creating the centralization and shitcoin logic threads, so I didn't have to waste time repeating the same thing to people who either have terrible memories or are willfully trying to bog down the argument by repeating the same logically fallacies, spin, ect., over and over and over again. You don't see the situation as I do, and that's fine, but let's try and keep it from ad hominem attacks of accusing me of being paid or any other speculation that gets away from fact and into straight trolling or (like why sputz is on ignore) piling accusations on top of each other and creating busy work for me as I try and detangle innuendo from fact--that's what I was talking about when I wrote, "I'll probably have to post a "guide to time wasting management for trolls and shills," so Sputz gets that most people get his game."
  

You newbs aren't going to be able handle a full on Spoetnik onslaught!

Below was just a warm up from what I can tell.


~BCX~

AHHAHA are you trying to egg me on for more BCX ?  ;D

As you can see there is no way to penetrate this wall of Monero Shill.
See the guy that says i am "on ignore" how he's quick to respond to me every time.  ::)
Which is linked to my never ending point.. Monero Dishonesty.

I can't help be bothered by the way these guys act.
The little crew runs around here being the most manipulative of all "crews"
..yet act like their shit don't stink and they have done no wrong.. ever.
When you peel away the layers you see a "Team" of bag holders
..orchestrating this "ANON" scheme for 2 years now.

And their game is deny deny deny ..no matter what happens ..PLAY DUMB !

It reminds me of smooth or smoothie (i STILL can't tell them apart sorry)
When "one" of them and a few other shill's posted a random topic egging on BitcoinEXpress
here saying he was full of shit and NEVER done anything to any coin ..including Monero.
And it just utterly fucking blew my god damn fucking mind these same EXACT shilltards
were arguing and bickering on that old topic and NOW they ..... PLAY FUCKING DUMB.
I quote fucknut smooth on IRC then i showed him a link and reminded him of the topic
and he simply skulked away in silence.. like generalizethis does when he gets his ass handed to him.

Like for the love of mother fucking god these gusy are suuuuuuuuuuuch delusional little liars.

look at this.. i Google'd it just now to prove a point.

(SEP 2014) BCX and Monero - Setting The Record Straight (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786201.0)
and..
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptonote-team-responds-monero-coin-killer-threat/

Point being is these guys had ACTUALLY forgotten about all that.. or say they "claimed"

AND
T H A T people is my fucking point !
No matter what happens.. they fucking deny it !
Time after time after fucking time they simply play dumb cry Troll and spin Bullshit.

It's not about making a mistake.
It's about pretending you never made ANY .. EVER
And then.. spinning it around as though it's a conspiracy to FUD your gay shitcoin by Trolls.
AKA: the BigVern / JShock / Horus Cryptsy routine.

These guys are the ones who have fucked up and made mistakes.
But if you point it out then somehow i you're the guy that did something wrong ?

Actions speak louder than words and these guys have a long history here now.
EVEN if they want to deny it all.

I sure as hell do not trust people who act like "that" and i want nothing to do with
what ever coin this "Team" is pushing..

These shills / baggies will never get it & change "their ways".. that much is clear.
A perfect example of their ways is the various self modded Topics and "Rules"
And how they even call their own supporters who ask legitimate questions Trolls / FUD'ing.
They don't get it and they think they are immune to criticism.
You are simply not allowed question them or their actions.
And if you do ? .......TROLL  ::)

KING Risto stomped into the Altcoin seen after dropping 6 figures buying up Monero early on..
(i was told in 2014 he had spent 882 Bitcoin on Monero back then in 2014)
..then went on to fund and contribute to a spam campaign here that has gone on for 2 years.

SEP 2014 this fucking cocky Noob posted one of his self-modded topics here with his own rules
and i remind you he JUST GOT here and admitted to Monero being his first Altcoin.
And he said this.. (after i mocked him about it he went and deleted it)
Read below and tell me this NOOB is not a delusional wind bag..

Fuck him and fuck his rules and fuck Monero and fuck their shills and fuck all their self-modded topics.


This is who runs Monero ..and what are going to do when he decides to stop the donations and dump ?


http://i63.tinypic.com/2r5aw0p.jpg

By the way he admitted to being admitted to a mental institution.. so uuhhh there's that.
Enjoy your lunatic's private coin project "Smashing Pumpkins Coin" investards..
keep feeding him see what it gets you.

Spoetnik someone told me you lost a lot of Monero from a lost wallet password. Can you comment on that

I have never been in possession of any amount of Monero or Dash coins in my life.
If staff at any exchange i used looked up my account history they would see clearly NO activity.
I have traded & "arb'd" many coins over the years and have had lots of wallets.
But i seriously have never gone anywhere near any the following (in any way)
- Monero
- Dash
- Maidsafe
- AUR
- Ethereum
- Lisk

and many MANY others.
If i did i would simply admit it and take any heat that may come with it.

It is fair to wonder WHY people post what they do .. so i get it guys.
But i have ZERO financial motivation to comment on Altcoins.
I used to support Jackpotcoin way back for example and i criticized it lots too.
And i can say the same for any coin i was bag holding / trading.
Many of you won't do that.. i will in heart beat.

You don't get my best foot put forward.. you get what ever is real & honest.
Which also means NOT staying silent at key times because it helps me financially.

Ask yourselves if you are bag holding coins do you publicly criticize it ?
When a bad thing is shown about it do you simply hide in silence ?
Do you just automatically go into denial mode and cry Troll / FUD ?

That's an amazing list of features for Dash, makes me want to BUY BUY BUY!

the war between cryptos. i will get some popcorn. dash is older then monero. and monera is pretty the second option, but very strong on poloniex. so support is there. let see how this coins are moving. maybe they will go down, maybe just not grow stronger as other newcomers like lisk, waves, dao etc. lets seeee.

Very irritating pictures...

It's a lot of fun trading DASH on BTC-E 8)

Spoetnik, I recommend The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy (ISBN 0-671-01520-6) is a 1996 book by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door)

Edit: What is really going on with Monero is no exception to what is explained in the book.

ArticMine and the other Monero people are all Spoetnik fans for sure. Spoetnik, unknowingly, being the biggest Monero fan himself.

I know this post was meant to disparage Dash, but I must commend you on your creativity. Well done sir!

Both dash and monero are shitcoins that everyone should stay far away from. It would be better to light your money on fire than to touch any of those two coins. Ever.

I will never understand why the two communities are hating themselves. I don't own any of them, so I haven't a side. Beside that, getting added on BTC-e is not a common thing. Congratulations !

i guess you want us to invest in something like Lisk instead ?  ::)

edit : oh my, you do want us all to invest in Lisk  :o

https://i.imgur.com/t7M7xKl.jpg

Its not really hate, honestly. Its more like getting awake in the middle of the night by some irritating mosquito (aka Monero troll) that is constantly buzzing near you. In the end you just want to squash it
so you can get some decent sleep.

 

Try waking up to an annoying sockpuppet trying to sell you shares of Pets.com masternodes.

i hear another one !!

http://giphy.com/gifs/hunting-mosquito-Ld4NTjw0vbPgY

Dont move !!

I don't hate Dash, I don't even care about the instamine thingy. That picture was just too good to pass up though, it needed to be done.

roflmao.

#rekt

up to the present time did not understand the hostility between these two coins. And these hostile actions are not justified. Every coin has its fans, who I think is right only to himself. And monero and dash have their advantages and disadvantages, it is. But who does not like any of the coins can donate unwanted for a good cause, Yes.  :(