DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not

[Lebubar]

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

generalizethis who is said to have one of the highest IQ's on the forum has stated many times that to de-anonymize DASH transactions is a trivial exercise.

Why can't he de-anonymize your transaction?  

 

[generalizethis]

Still waiting, little cunt(h)

weaksauce privacy wannabe coin

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

generalizethis who is said to have one of the highest IQ's on the forum has stated many times that to de-anonymize DASH transactions is a trivial exercise.

Why can't he de-anonymize your transaction?  

Did I say that? Maybe I said for a motivated attacker, but I'd like to see a quotation--I certainly don't have the resources to break any coin's anonymity unless all it requires is a blockchain explorer.

What I said, and Evan Duffield will back me up on this, is a cryptosystem that doesn't employ privacy at the protocol, is suboptimal or second rate when compared to cryptosystems that have protocol level privacy features.

I somewhat covered the "break it " argument in this thread #2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374

Let's remember that shadowcash supporters were hectoring Monero supporters with the same "break it" argument--up until Shen broke it.

Honestly, it seems dumb to break it atm, since etholution is purported to have another privacy scheme that uses end-to-end encryption--though if you layer it with paynodes, you're most likely to end up with the same second rate privacy--would be nice to see a white paper with the required math to go along with the endless stream of promises. But, why do that, when noobs can be fooled with a few infographics and the repetition of invalid assertions?

But if you feel so strongly about your privacy features, why don't you sign up for this? Notice it's for transactions and messaging.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/04/secure-messenger.html

My guess is that experts, who understand what a motivated attacker is and does, will need about two seconds to see the obvious flaws in dash's design. But feel free to enter and have your shitty privacy coin invalidated by an authority bigger than any one that resides on BCT, maybe that reality check will free up the time I waste correcting your false assertions, but my guess is you'll go full-Cruise and say it's a conspiracy against scientology dash to prevent it from reaching its moon base.

[generalizethis]

Still waiting, little cunt(h)

weaksauce privacy wannabe coin

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

generalizethis who is said to have one of the highest IQ's on the forum has stated many times that to de-anonymize DASH transactions is a trivial exercise.

Why can't he de-anonymize your transaction?  

Honestly, it seems dumb to break it atm.........

As we all suspected, you are all full of piss and wind with your i could if i wanted to rhetoric

Seems like you cut a lot out of my post? Must not have liked what I said, so I'll repost until it sinks in.

Still waiting, little cunt(h)

weaksauce privacy wannabe coin

Tell me the source address of this transaction then if it's oh so weak:

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

generalizethis who is said to have one of the highest IQ's on the forum has stated many times that to de-anonymize DASH transactions is a trivial exercise.

Why can't he de-anonymize your transaction?  

Did I say that? Maybe I said for a motivated attacker, but I'd like to see a quotation--I certainly don't have the resources to break any coin's anonymity unless all it requires is a blockchain explorer.

What I said, and Evan Duffield will back me up on this, is a cryptosystem that doesn't employ privacy at the protocol, is suboptimal or second rate when compared to cryptosystems that have protocol level privacy features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5sNx7SMTP8 Here's dash's "lead scientist" at 2:13 saying the same damn thing (though conspicuously absent is how he plans to achieve it--or why it took him a year to figure it out when Monero and BTC devs have maintained that opinion since the beginning, guess some people are just a little slow.

I somewhat covered the "break it " argument in this thread #2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374

Let's remember that shadowcash supporters were hectoring Monero supporters with the same "break it" argument--up until Shen broke it.

Honestly, it seems dumb to break it atm, since etholution is purported to have another privacy scheme that uses end-to-end encryption--though if you layer it with paynodes, you're most likely to end up with the same second rate privacy--would be nice to see a white paper with the required math to go along with the endless stream of promises. But, why do that, when noobs can be fooled with a few infographics and the repetition of invalid assertions?

But if you feel so strongly about your privacy features, why don't you sign up for this? Notice it's for transactions and messaging.

http://thehackernews.com/2016/04/secure-messenger.html

My guess is that experts, who understand what a motivated attacker is and does, will need about two seconds to see the obvious flaws in dash's design. But feel free to enter and have your shitty privacy coin invalidated by an authority bigger than any one that resides on BCT, maybe that reality check will free up the time I waste correcting your false assertions, but my guess is you'll go full-Cruise and say it's a conspiracy against scientology dash to prevent it from reaching its moon base.

[Macrochip]

Indeed, great to see DASH (ticker symbol: DSH) on BTC-E and not some random idiotic shitcoin added there, while trading with increasingly high volume.

Also nice to own the "Dashcoin" (whatever that was) github and the entire legal rights and trademarks to the name.

BTC-E clearly made a great choice by adding DASH (DSH) invented by Evan Duffield, the first cryptocurrency in the world with paid full nodes, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, decentralized governance, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, effective blockchain-funding, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history and I think I forgot: unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history.

Sure happy to be trading DASH (DSH) on BTC-E now!

PS:

When will my hero come and tell me the secret? 

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

[Febo]

BTC-e is currently at number 4 for volume for DASH


#   Source   Pair                  Volume (24h)   Price           Volume (%)   Updated
1   Poloniex   DASH/BTC          $ 106,790           $ 6.63   45.39 %           Recently
2   Livecoin   DASH/BTC          $ 56,986         $ 6.65     24.22 %           Recently
3   Exmo       DASH/BTC        $ 27,799           $ 6.60    11.81 %           Recently
4   BTC-E      DASH/BTC          $ 16,369         $ 6.62    6.96 %           Recently

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/#markets

I remember time when: "Poloniex was most scammy exchange where 90% of volume is fake."   I wonder who used this line often during last year.


I am glad you guys now enjoy Poloniex since it is perfect exchange. And you make most of it. Exchange where 2 main coins are BTC and Monero.

There might be another such exchange. But this time totally decentralized.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-crypto-show-with-peter-todd-manfred-karrer-zhou-tonged-and-brian-deery

at 25:00

Lets hope Dash will get listed there also as a pair and not a main coin as Monero of course.

[Moneroman88]

Dash folks, enjoy it while it lasts.  Won't be long though.   Mark my words!

[evergrow]

Dash folks, enjoy it while it lasts.  Won't be long though.   Mark my words!

You're right, Monero won't last for long

[arielbit]

Indeed, great to see DASH (ticker symbol: DSH) on BTC-E and not some random idiotic shitcoin added there, while trading with increasingly high volume.

Also nice to own the "Dashcoin" (whatever that was) github and the entire legal rights and trademarks to the name.

BTC-E clearly made a great choice by adding DASH (DSH) invented by Evan Duffield, the first cryptocurrency in the world with paid full nodes, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, decentralized governance, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history, effective blockchain-funding, unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history and I think I forgot: unbroken anonymity through erasable transaction history.

Sure happy to be trading DASH (DSH) on BTC-E now!

you own what? 

yeah right.. keep owning your shit that comes out of your mouth.

DSH is Dashcoin

I know it pains you DASH shills that DSH Dashcoin is here to stay haha.

[Laniakea]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

[generalizethis]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

[From Above]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

come on u know urself this is utter junk

sry to be so harsh but what good does it do to be a fan of this

come on be real to urself brother.

~CfA~

[generalizethis]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

come on u know urself this is utter junk

sry to be so harsh but what good does it do to be a fan of this

come on be real to urself brother.

~CfA~

I am being honest. I'd rather have a coin that delivers the best in something that I'm interested in than one that promises moon while delivering second rate in everything. I'd also rather learn CLI than use a rebranded Bitcoin wallet that some DEVs threw out there in their rush to get as much noob money as possible.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yobit doesn't list monero, right?  The only other exchange I have an account on is poloniex and I haven't logged on there in months.   Do they sell it? 

[generalizethis]

Yobit doesn't list monero, right?  The only other exchange I have an account on is poloniex and I haven't logged on there in months.   Do they sell it?  

Polo does--they even offer XMR pairs.

[From Above]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

come on u know urself this is utter junk

sry to be so harsh but what good does it do to be a fan of this

come on be real to urself brother.

~CfA~

I am being honest. I'd rather have a coin that delivers the best in something that I'm interested in than one that promises moon while delivering second rate in everything. I'd also rather learn CLI than use a rebranded Bitcoin wallet that some DEVs threw out there in their rush to get as much noob money as possible.

it really hurts me to see delusion running that deep

i really dunno how could this happen to you

~CfA~

[generalizethis]

They didn't add Monero because Monero devs didn't deliver on their promises.

It's 2016 and still no official GUI. It's almost a joke.

I was a BIG MONERO enthusiast but not anymore. How could anyone still be?

Because if you've been following, it's being done and some of us can use CLI in the meantime.

come on u know urself this is utter junk

sry to be so harsh but what good does it do to be a fan of this

come on be real to urself brother.

~CfA~

I am being honest. I'd rather have a coin that delivers the best in something that I'm interested in than one that promises moon while delivering second rate in everything. I'd also rather learn CLI than use a rebranded Bitcoin wallet that some DEVs threw out there in their rush to get as much noob money as possible.

it really hurts me to see delusion running that deep

i really dunno how could this happen to you

~CfA~

Yeah, I'm delusional.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443867.0

[From Above]

Yeah, I'm delusional.

I know. But its treatable.

~CfA~

[generalizethis]

Yeah, I'm delusional 

I know. But its treatable.

~CfA~

Guess they can't treat missing sarcasm as of yet. Now we're both off-topic.

[From Above]

Yeah, I'm delusional  

I know. But its treatable.

~CfA~

Guess they can't treat missing sarcasm as of yet. Now we're both off-topic.

But gen, I wasn't offtopic, this entire topic was meant to exhibit that Monero intrinsically runs on the delusional idea that it is a bitcoin successor, that its privacy function is THE privacy function the world needs and all the bla. Its not an important coin and its not needed, its not famous and its time is passé.
Why do Munero supporters dont understand this, I mean still? Its really weird
I thought u were much smarter than this, u should be able to see through this easily.

~CfA~

[generalizethis]

Yeah, I'm delusional  

I know. But its treatable.

~CfA~

Guess they can't treat missing sarcasm as of yet. Now we're both off-topic.

But gen, I wasn't offtopic, this entire topic was meant to exhibit that Monero intrinsically runs on the delusional idea that it is a bitcoin successor, that its privacy function is THE privacy function the world needs and all the bla. Its not an important coin and its not needed, its not famous and its time is passé.
Why do Munero supporters dont understand this, I mean still? Its really weird
I thought u were much smarter than this, u should be able to see through this easily.

~CfA~

Considering it has cryptographers and dashers are paying for soda machines and advertisements instead of designing a cryptosystem that works as stated--I think you're projecting your own delusions onto a community that understands that technology is built on math, not empty promises.