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That looks painful.  Imagine what it's going to look like when the 150 million dollars worth of Ethereum locked in the DAO get out.

https://i.imgur.com/1n1vgNA.png

r0ach is the next victim. He is being dumped on without even holding any Ether. Looking good!

shut up you, sockpuppet permissioned scamcoin bankster shill.

Uhm, what?

Clearly you don't understand how the DAO works.

Seriously your jealously of others success is pretty disgusting. My only hope is that you are under strict medical observation.

Strict. Medical. Observation

I see the IPO pump and dump scammers didn't like that picture very much.

https://i.imgur.com/mWnHTQX.jpg

butterin sell eth for lisk
kakakaka

another.

r0ach.

bitching thread.



I bet you're the life of every party you have the rare opportunity of being invited to.

After enduring months upon months of constant spam from scammers trying to hype this IPO pump and dump fraudtoken, it's going to be hilarious watching it implode.

Even the random village serfs are already putting the pieces of the puzzle together:

Conplete. Psychometric. Evaluation

It's burnable back to ETH

Daily. Psychiatric. Supervision.

God I love the bitchiness and meowing that goes on in this forum.   Where would we be without it?

As far as ethereum is concerned...I'm curious as well about its short-term future.  I just bought a few bucks worth on Yobit as a gamble.  I see the argument about it getting dumped but you can never underestimate the stupidity of the masses (of which I am a part, I realize).  So we'll see.  And look at the Lisk IOU-thingee, how it's doing.  It's absolutely insane!

You forgot to mention that it's impossible to transform Dao into Eth.. In less than 48 days !

Yes, you actually have 4 steps to burn the dao token to get back Eth and it takes that long.

A long and annoying process you know, so there will be dumps but not from the Dao ;).

Misquote, recheck your brackets :) carry on  ;D

Come one, come all - witness the spectacle as notorious altcoin scammer Vitalik creates millions of coins out of thin air, awards them to himself and his accomplices, then dumps on you to become rich.  There's no need for any fancy things like mortgage backed securities in this scam, we've removed the mortgage itself and just gone straight to the scam.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2625oc2.jpg

And who was the first victim?

36,000 Etherum was dumped in the Poliniex yesterday, but the price is still over 0.031, is that a bad sign?

That means nothing. ETH pumpers are just trading between each other.

For r0ach - yes.

Does it mean they want to make the volume high so that people will think the trading is very active?

Definitely!

While it appears they likely have made backroom deals with Poloniex in order to wash trade to defraud investors, I do not believe that particular dump was a wash trade.  The single entity pump and dumper of Ethereum seemed to add around 5000 BTC to the buy side in the course of his attempted scam to raise then dump on you.  He has now lost around 2500-3000 of that.  I don't think it was his plan to have someone dump that much on him in one sell, which is why nobody ever pumps IPO scamcoins with horrible distribution in the first place like NXT - the dump threat is too high.

If he continued his orchestrated scam pump, he could probably get it to like 0.035 by dumping the rest of his money into it, but then he'd need to instantly dump at peak to get his 5000 btc back and I doubt anyone is stupid enough to put up walls on the buy side for him to dump on you.

Separate discussion on the fact that Poloniex is likely accomplice to this scheme of facilitating wash trading for just one single coin in order to help the pump and dump scammer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1473947.0

I just hope those guy will pump the Ethereum price to around 0.035 and I can dump my coins. But after my dump, the price could go even higher.

You're talking out of your anus my friend

It's like watching the movie Platoon.  You see bodies going down and people screaming and someone says, "Where is Johnny???", oh shit, he got dumped on.

When do you think the dump will start?

r0ach there is just one thing I'm not sure I follow with your theory:

there is 11M ETH stuck in the DAO fund, but you cant redeem them until *i think* 48 days after the DAO creation; sothese 11M eth could stay stuck there for a while on not until the 28th.

we'll have BTC/DAO and ETH/DAO for sure, but how will that impact ETH price? For instance, lets say I have invested 100 eth into the dao, thus I have 1K DAO. If I decide to sell them and if everyone will the BTC/DAO and ETH/DAO will decrease but how will that impact ETH/BTC? Maybe there is something I missing, if so please explain!

From what i understand, your whole ETH doom theory rests on BTC going to the moon around the halving. But there are still many inner problems unresolved, and there are many trusted agent that predict a catastrophic scenario regarding bitcoin halving:

mircea_popescu: anwyay, yes, bitcoin is traversing perhaps the first true crisis since its founding, between now and the halving.
mircea_popescu: let the fucktards meet the halving on halved price

logs here: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=halving

anyway, you also have to understand that from the perspective of many observators of this forum you are just acting the opposite way of the so called ETH shills, beause you are pumping bitcoin future bubble like its a guarantee.

Im not gonna lie in here, I was very tempted to buy some DAO tokens because you know.. it's never clear how this type of thing can end up looking like, when there is a certain dead end date. Maybe in the 28th, everyone expects a big ass dump, but an actual pump happens, so everyone that didn't buy in regret not doing so.

Of course, at the end of the day, everyone will go back to BTC, im just desperate to make some extra BTC other than buying monthly, it's too boring and slow, I need to take some risks soon, and shorting big-volume alts are the best thing I can think about when it comes to making extra BTC.

That isn't how I understand it. You can't bypass ETH to buy or sell DAO. 

The exchange could do the 2 steps automatically foy ou, but I don't think you can use Bitcoin to directly buy, or sell DAO, now or in the future.

LOL Mircea Popescu?  SERIOUSLY?

Or Perhaps you mean the pimply faced weirdo Steve Sokolowski, who was an admitted Eth shill that was mystified the price crashed from it's 0.037 peak after he probably bought in at the top.  That's probably why he's shilling so hard against BTC right now.  The guy is a nobody that just runs a pool or something.

WHERE are these so called trusted people at?  Anonymint pisses off a lot of people and there are probably even more people who hate Mircea Popescu than Anonymint.

Look at Popescu posts!!!!


He speaks in fucking jibberish in an attempt to try and make himself look intelligent while stating nothing rational or even anything that makes sense at all! What the fuck!

For a moment I thought you were talking about yourself...

Very funny, Come from Latvia.  Everyone knows Popescu is just a bot that spams random words from a thesaurus.

I don't question the statement about Popescu, I just say that your words about him suit you very well.

Your insanity overshadows real Ethereum criticism. Carry on, worth the popcorn.

You will have to leave a message with my secretary Evan Duffield:

https://i.imgur.com/f0o3zGT.jpg

English idiomatic phrases are beyond my comprehension. Paraphrase, please.

according to r0ach Eth should be gone by now but it isn't.

Just kick the crybaby and move on.

That r0ach guy does not get invited to parties, everywhere you turn he's trashing everything...I like it when the r0ach gets the banhammer.

What parties is he missing out on exactly ? Care to elaborate ? Proof ?
I don't know about roach but i would not WANT to be invited to ETH scammer "parties"

Everywhere you turn ? Do you only *turn* here in ALT Main ?
Maybe go outside for some fresh air ? Or is he there too ?

Trashing everything ? Or.. just Ethereum ?
And maybe it deserves to be "trashed" because of their scammy IPO launch and Pump & Dump shenanigans ?

"Banhammer" ? This is not the official ETH spam / hype chatbox (Poloniex)
..when was he banned ? why ? proof ?

hmm i wonder why you would "like" him getting banned ?
I don't suppose you're a whiny shill bag holder trying to discredit someone for ETH scam profits here ?

Want my advice ? Get a JOB if you want money.
I hear McDonalds is hiring.

Why do you keep your eye so closely on burger flipping fast food job prospects? Sounds like you're looking to step your career.

wow that is a big dump but what interests me here is no the obvious dump itself it is the fact that this dump happened in one place, usually dumps are being done in smaller increments not in a 1115BTC size!

IPO scams tend to have very poor distribution where a small circle of people own obscene amounts of coins that they want to sell.  This is why nobody ever bothered trying to pump coins like NXT in the past.  The people that own that ridiculous amount of coins want nothing more than to find someone to dump them on.  Ever seen the Wolf of Wall Street?  They were making lots of money scamming people with boiler room calls but they wanted to scam people for more.  Their solution:  create an IPO.

Saw the movie and they're brilliant.
Vitalik doesn't look like Leonardo though but somehow looks like a crybaby for real in his pictures. The investors looks more like the wolves in this situation, they're the ones who wants to take money from someone else pocket. that includes the rest of those who bought eth and dao who join for the profit.

DAO by the way is on newyork times, read it?

IPO scams have worked a few times in a crypto, but we are reaching the point of peak-scam now with Ethereum, Lisk, Waves, IOTA all scamming simultaneously.  There isn't enough "prey" for all those scams, so it will probably implode the alt market as investors greater fools stop seeing any investment on returns.

Just more bullshit from roach. You already refused to put your money where your mouth is, only a noob who doesn't know your bad reputation will trust your words now...

Not even sure about a noob trusting r0ach words...

r0ach, when Spoederman is agreeing with you on every post, you know its time to shift gears. Its quite simple. You shill BTC, and get pissed at everybody for shilling? Dude, cmon! Your BTC is more of an oligarchy than the Fed right now. You despise the Chinese, but your coin is controlled by them. You despise special interests, but your coin is all about a few guys making decisions for everyone. What gives? Are you fuckin retarded to think we cant think? Your BTC shilling and jealousy have cemented your rep into the dustbin. I know you think you are fighting the good fight, but that fight is reserved for people with integrity. You have none. Your past is as littered as ours. I don't want a guy running for Mayor when I know he's as slimy and dishonest as the rest of us. He needs to above that. You're not the Dark Knight dude... you're a r0ach. Just like us.

You should probably know that the woman on this meme is Baba Vanga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga), an extremely famous bulgarian mystic and "prophet", who helped to thousands of people. She lost his vision when she was 12, and she died 20 years ago. I'm not sure if its appropriate to use a picture of her in the 33,558th thread which trolls ETH (not that I am Ether supporter).

https://scontent-sin1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/13227151_1294924320521214_4505069591456890509_n.jpg?oh=a5e4291f16eec480caefd5139501356a&oe=57CE6A63

BUY unlimited coin please :)
waiting dump at ETH, at least it was to eliminate half the population bitcoin as they go bankrupt :)

If she was that good she would know that I would use her image for that meme. If she minded that, she would leave a message for me or something.

I don's know but ether bear market just started  :)

You're on your 2nd IPO scam while claiming I have a "bad reputation" for not betting 100 BTC with you for a bet that barely anyone on the planet could fairly arbitrate.  Anyways....

https://i.imgur.com/2MP8pZC.jpg

It's just an excuse.

Uh oh, we have a breaking news story from the creator of the longest thread on Bitcointalk:  AdamstgBit

If Vitalik dump his remaining Ethereum, I will buy some from the dump. That is the clear of the overhang.

Roach,

you remind me of a certain older species of the cranky geek club who pine for the days of Ford 3 speed column shifts, analog meter movements, COBOL, vacuum tubes, and the IBM 1403 line printer. For good or worse, alt coins are a kind of technology experimentation that has to happen. Right now tech innovation in the BTC space is nothing to brag about and in fact seems constipated. If I had your energy, I would focus on BTC's constipation.

INTRODUCING!! "Satoshi-Lax"

...For all your crypto-intestinal needs!

The bitcoin price dropped because Craig Wright claimed he was the Satoshi. The market was afraid he would dump his coins. So it is better for Vitalik to dump his coins.

Hi :) Hope you are well.

EDIT: I see what you mean now actually, You mean its best for Vitalik to dump his coins so he can't effect the future price of ETH much to how Satoshi coming back could effect BTC's price. That is a valid point.

I am realistic, If I was in his position I would most definitely sell 25% for 1115 bitcoin. Can't blame him at all. Traders trade.

No one freaks out at company owners who sell the stock of their company for a profit, how is this any different? The alibaba dude sold enough stock during their IPO to wipe his ass with gold leaf for the rest of his life, and still has enough stock that if Alibaba does well he could make a killing.

I think instead of demonizing him we should look at it in the same way stock traders look at it. When a legal inside trade is posted for a company, most stock traders look at this and try to find a reason for it, especially if its multiple high ranking officials or some other insider with a particularly good track record with trading.

Is there a reason for him trading? Could he believe that the top is near? or Maybe he is "Hedging his bets" and selling 25% now and selling 25% later if it goes up again? In other words, use his trades to your advantage, he obviously has more information about the situation than anyone else.

I do feel like since there is unlimited coins though that a extremely high price won't really be plausible for ETH in the future. After all, who would want to pay exorbitant prices to use the network? I would imagine if a decentralized computing network became a "big thing" there would be tons of competition. I have a feeling that it'd be the cheapest, most trustworthy network that wins. Isn't that the whole point of a pay-per-use computing network?

I think he was very wise to cash out at where he did. I think maybe others should realize that things got out of hand very fast (whether it was intentional or not really doesn't matter at this point) and that the current prices are possibly unsustainable, at least for the long term.

That doesn't necessarily mean this bubble has popped yet though. As they say, the market can remain irrational for longer than you can remain solvent.

I hope he can sell most of his coins so his remaining coin will not affect the market. But I want him to keep some so his interest is in line with us.

lol, I'm sure your wish will be granted.

So the overhang is cleared and the Ethereum can rise further. But I also want him to retain some.

I doubt that..

If you have done your homework you would know about his Bitcoin Trust he claimed he had..

..he was trying to borrow money off of it (which explains why he was claiming to be *tied* to Satoshi)

The reality is he had fled for tax evasion and has been proven a liar.
He has a list of failed business ventures and is roaming around scheming as usual.

..like most of you here.

Hey i got an idea !!!!!!

IPO it ;)

Give me 23,000 Bitcoin you fucking idiots hahahahha

*maybe* you willz get dem richez and lambo'z moon bro ?

The Vitalik should wait until now to dump his coins. The price is around all time high. If he waits a bit longer, he might earn more.

He does not control the price of Etheruem. His holding of Ethereum is too small to affect the price.

They've already added another full retrace since this picture was taken lol.  Literally 4 failed pumps in a row.  Eth is THE MOST manipulated scamcoin I've ever seen.  There is no way they can keep this thing afloat forever.  The hammer is going to come down soon and crush all these scammers.  As soon as those DOA coins get loose, this thing is crashing down to the flames of hell where it belongs:

https://i.imgur.com/YEBCte4.png

What do you mean by DOA coins get loose? Serious question

Ignore the FUD he spouts. He's trying to talk down the price so he can jump on the ETH train. For the record DAO are not 'coins' per say and they are already loose as any DAO holder can sell up into ETH BTC or whatever. Just the usual r0ach drivel post.

I was taking a train into NYC and after some chatting one of the guys sitting next to me said he was buying Ethereum. I mentioned proof-of-stake vs proof-of-work but he had never heard of either.

The Ethereum just reached a US dollar all time high. it is about $16.2, about 2 more than the previous peak.

every single prediction roach made about ETH was wrong. Screw this guy. I just recently joined and wasnt sure about his DAO/ETH predictions - like when DAO will trade ETh will be dead because everyone will be dumping DAO blah blah. Nope, all wrong, it is now all time high. If you check the threads about ETH, go to first pages,over year and more ago, you will see that he has been against ETH since forever. Yet, here we are, months later.. ETH is at all time high and everything he predicted about ETH was wrong.

Do not listen to this guy. He keeps saying it will fail, he keeps moving his predictions further in the future, jsut like all those end of the world scammers who keep moving dates of apocalypse every time it doesn't happen.

170k eth just got dumped on the high. Also big sellwall on dao.
RIP eth-bagholders.



I think ETH is a scamtoken specifically made to defraud wallstreet noob-investors.

Fantastic article on Vitalik. He is quite a genius and we are all so proud that he works on the Ethereum project.

https://backchannel.com/the-uncanny-mind-that-built-ethereum-9b448dc9d14f#.jckispyvx

Not really.  I think you're just butthurt and suffering from sour grapes.  Probably invested your life savings in litecoin or some other technological dead end coin that is going nowhere.

Ethereum price will continue to rise and you will continue to be asspained

Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me ;)

The only thing in that article which isn't just more hype is from Vlad:


So what he can add 3 digit numbers in his head. I can do that too (I split the numbers in powers-of-10). How about multiplying them in your head, which I can also do but not as fast this 5 year old (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAMxbHQyPdk#t=129) although I didn't practice.

Vitalik is math smart. But there are many, many people who are math smart and very few of them produce $billion successful enterprises. The jury is still out on whether Ethereum will amount to anything more than hype (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15150806#msg15150806).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11232300/Why-do-geniuses-lack-common-sense.html

HA HA HA   Litecoin "community"

Sour grapes. Deal with it.

I can see your signature. You seem to post only in the hopes of getting some donations from some ETH-whales for posting crap on the forum. Are you really that much of a lowlife? How about getting a job instead?

That was epic divine crypto-pwnage !

You bent him over and snapped it clean off that shameless deceitful ETH Shilltard.

Go back to your other account(s) now Investard..

Decentralized ? Check this out https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/ltc/analysis/BTC
Now tell me how decentralized LTC is when its mined in china and 99.30% of the volume is traded in CNY. It looks to me like chinese are buying / selling from / to themselves, pumping the coin and sell it to the 0.7% fools that support a part of its price and get scammed.

I agree with that the fact that the mining of litecoin is very centralised. It is mainly done by the Chinese in china.

It's quite amusing how the scammers defend their centralized scam-token by saying "b-b-b-but LTC is dominated by china that's why we're selling facebook-tokens now"

You are all pretty retarded actually.

You lowlife americans sell your LTC to the chinese for way too cheap and don't mine it. You just gave it away to china and now you're saying that's why it would be ok to sell people centralized scamtokens via ipo. Fucking retards, lol.

China will not accept ETH. They show you the middlefinger and pump btc and ltc aswell as some other coins you all were writing off already (like EAC, TIPS, TIX ...) to some crazy numbers in the future to show you what fucking loosers you really are.

Chinese aren't stupid. They won't just buy any shitcoin you present to them. They'll buy you out for way too cheap from the good coins and leave you ethically broken dirtbags with the shitcoins. Much like they bought all your gold and silver also. America is moraly bankrupt and doesn't even notice it. You're a bunch of degenerates with your pyramid scam-tokens.  

America better bends over because china will fuck you retards in the ass financially ON ALL LEVELS!

The GenXers are still the strongest generation in the USA. Your complaint is about the generations that have followed us. And of course the boomers before us are married to socialism and big government.


That insouciance is what happens when you put Millennials in control.


I have a new theory that the altcoin speculation market is largely stratified by generational differences (in addition to for example cultural differences between Europeans and Americans for example).

On one end of the spectrum, we have Millennials (Z generation) who were raised spoiled by their middle-age boomer parents, and thus have this sort of unrealistic cartoonish or "everything is  a game" (and take money from the rich like we did to our parents) outlook similar to how Vitalik described himself:


Just older than them are the Tweeners (Y generation) such as Daniel Larimer who were born in between the neglected X generation and the spoiled Z generation, thus they have a confused identity with some mix of wannabee Libertarianism like us GenXers but needing the pillow of increasing collectivism/socialism under which they were raised.

I am GenX. We were abandoned by our parents and the socialism wasn't very well developed yet in the 1970s and 1980s when we were growing up. So we had to fend for ourselves and thus are very pragmatic.


Here are more recent examples I've experienced when interfacing with these irresponsible youth:

I will keep on mining the Etheruem in the future. I will save some for the long term and become PoS stake.

ALL 100% of Ethereum was put out via an ICO.

..that makes it fully & completely 100% centralized vs. Litecoin having TRUE decentralization.

Don't confuse dishonest deceitful lies with truth and reality kidiots.

Just because you loiter around spouting off dishonest baseless claims about ETH don't make them real.

For example:
I mined Litecoin 3 years ago..
I am not Chinese nor a "mining farm"
Now look at ETH.

Could i have mined it on Launch ?
NOPE.
It was an ICO launch.

THEN !

Look at my ETH-scam topic on page 1
Some rich people bought them all for pennies on the dollar the minute the coin launched.
This was a CENTRALIZED SCAM FROM LAUNCH !

And i quote..
Re: [NFO] Ethereum = Scam
July 23, 2014, 01:39:39 PM

---

EDIT:
Further explanation ;)

Since those were coming in with 1 BTC blocks in the tune of a million dollars
within seconds of the IPO scam launching (when NOBODY knew about it)
..we can all safely assume it was manipulation.
The odds that regular users all decided to simultaneously buy ONLY "1 BTC" chunks of ETH
is simply retarded.. it was the dev team etc and they were caught red handed !

ETH really is a scam ..and you guys really DO need to smarten the fuck up.

STOP SUPPORTING Scammy Scheme tokens for profit Greedy Investards !

I missed the IPO of Etheruem two years ago. But I am mining it at the moment, it make decent profit, you can also do that.

By shorting it?

It may be shrewd to mine (if you insist), sell now, and rebuy later when the market settles out. Eth is most likely going down, bitcoin is most likely going up, and you could have more eth that what you would have been able to mine if you do this correctly.

If you sell now and buy back later, but if the Ethereum price going down, you will still make a loss. It is difficult.

You do not have the Ethereum, so you do not have to worry about "our" leader. We the miners will determine the course.

Keep in mind that this is the same attacker who attacked Mt.Gox. He doesn't waste his time trying to convince you. He just does it.

His attack is ongoing and (assuming he succeeds) you won't realize he has won until it is too late for you to sell ETH.


You'd probably want to read the entire post quoted above, by clicking it to go to the thread whence it came.

How do you know it is the same attacker? If we catch him, the Mt Gox traders will also benefit, it is in their interest.

it is just fluctuating there are not special for me, the price always are like that. what is the problem with vitalik? he is just developer of coin.

The price is still quite volatile at the moment. I think most of us are waiting for the proposals to get the funds back from the hacker.

God iamnotback i love some of your insights... was just thinking about age groups in relation to different coins' communities and the rammifications of that, like ether has a lot of aggressive young hounds and some other coins seem to have a lot of 40-something year old serious build step by step type people.
And then sometimes your comments are rage inducing pleb tier nonsense.

I think his discussion is quite inspiring. His comments is different from other Ethereum trolls. Others are too obvious.

I know little about crypto currency mechanism. I iamnotback's comments can be verified and adopted by the community.

Vitalik now picking fights with people on twitter over "chinese bitcoin miners". I think it's totally out of place.

Also @OP: what did you expect? "Developement" needs to be funded, right?
Just hope he doesn't dump the rest on the inevitable decline.
That leg down will be so violent, i can feel it coming in already.

Not only the investors, but also the miners will lose a lot of money if the Ethereum goes belly up. The mining investment increase a lot recently.

WBB and 1ex.trade will usher in a new era that will do-away with all bullshit we see today for alts :)

So the miners will also be the supporters of the Ethereum because they have the vested interest in it?

I think so. If the Ethereum is dead, they will have no coin to mine at present. All other coins are too small.

So miners actually have an incentive to vote 'no' on a HF to protect their investemet. Let's see how that is digested by devs and community or if miners are sheep that just follow devs? If so, they'll loose out.  
It's a very delicate situation with the devs and parts of community being overinvested in dao-fuckup.

If the miners vote no, the hacker will get the 3.6 million Ethereum, when it dumps, the price will be crushed.

I have voted yes for the soft fork. But there is a bug in the soft fork software. So there will be no soft fork.

The hard fork will happen in the next few days. It has overwhellming support from the Etheruem community.

There are active disscussions about the hard fork protocol. It seems this time they might do it right.

Why painful? Is 1100 Btcs so much for you? I once saw a 500,000  LTC 0.02 each wall at btc-e for several hours and no one was called a dumper, just relax.

That just means there is strong buyer for the Ethereum, they can absorb so many Ehteruem so easily.

A Chinese company had completed a purchase of 416,000 ETH, the native token on the Ethereum blockchain, in an total investment of $500,000. Will it lose a lot of money?


http://www.coindesk.com/china-wanxiang-blockchain-50-million-fund/

So the Chinese are dumped a lot of Ethereum by the Ehtereum Foundation. Will they be happy after the price drop from $20 to $10?

LOL NOOBY

You don't know what a "community" is..

All that exists is a small handful of miners who don't want to switch mining coins yet because of profitability.
That's it.

(the guys using dapps are way too busy dapp'ing wit dem app'z)

And oh yeah.. they do switch to other coins LOL

Foundation ?  :D
Community ? hahhaha
That was funny.. thanks for the laugh :D
You scammy ICO aficaioando's crack me up ROFL

I prefer the term scammy greedy ICO Kidiot Investard profiteer dregs of Crypto-Society.
But hey.. what do i know NOOBY ?
I only been here 3 years longer than you.  :'(

You're the "community" expert here so don't mind me or my evil "FUD"  ;D

PS:
Hey Noobs
Learn how to internet.
See how forums work ?
Read the topic title my little experts.. what does it say ?

They bought the Ethereum at a price about $1.2. The price now is still 10 times more than what they spent.

So these Chinese could be strong supporter of the Ethereum. They will set up $50 million fund to support crypto currency including the Etheruem.

I think it was a buddy and not a victim...

The Chinese got 30% of the Ethereum mining hash at the moment. Due to the cheap electricity price, it will rise again.

What are the Chinese DOING with the ETH "Fuel tokens" ?
They must me be mining them for some reason right ?
Hmm i am perplexed !
I just can't seem to get a handle on this guys.. can you help me ?
It's a mystery people.. i will figure it out one day though, i swear !

LET'S MAKE BITCOINTALK GREAT AGAIN !

Let's ban all ICO's !

..or at least move them to the scam section where they belong.
They are not a currency so why are they even posted here ?

I also was curious what that guys comment has to do with the topic..
Was he / she implying something with the China comment ?

If you do not have any interest in the altcoin, you can just post in the bitcoin section and let others lose.

there will always be so many victims who get fooled and buy into the pumps and get dumped on as soon as they buy and lose their money and give up trading after a while.

But his only interest is trolling.

Questions answered ? NONE.
I asked and was ignored then insulted.. as usual.

And no "ignore them" is a dumb reply sorry.

They are not currencies.. so quit calling them "Altcoins" (like you just did)
An Altcoin (to me anyway) is a currency.
So of it's not a currency then why is it posted here ?

I will tell you NOOBS who showed up after i did..
Because you all morphed this entire Altcoin scene into a giant scammy ICO scam fest
..for profit.

You leave !

When i showed up here i recall there being a level of class & integrity that was erased by scammy dregs.
You all showed up for no reason other than to find a way to profit Fiat or BTC from Altcoins.
While pretending you support Altcoins.. a crock of fucking shit !

Scammy shorted sighted idiocy like supporting Ethereum or way back Doge coin is pathetic.
How many of you use either for the intended purpose they were made and not for Poloniex trading ?

You are full of shit guys.
You flap your gums but it's all bullshit designed to lure in potential victims.
Nothing but a bunch of Crypto-Pedo's grooming their victims at 'The talk

Don't like my comment ?
Go make an ICO scheme coin about it..

I am here telling you what the world see's here kidiots.
I am the one telling you why World participation is non-existent.
I am the one who posted the (SEC) Crypto-Currency Investor Fraud Alert Warning
..that mentions this forum.

Don't agree with me ?
The fucking world does !

..or they would be here involved yet they tell me face to face this shit is scammy.
As it gets worse day by day..

Who agrees with me ?

THE FUCKING -SEC- DOES SCAMMY ICO ASSHOLES !

Know who that is little blow hard's ?

https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

Done long ago. 115 millions ETC was traded already.

If you can extend that logic, then all the premined ETH have changes hands. No original owners own that.

There is a possibility that some of  the original Ethereum owners still have the ETC, they might dump them.

Of course not.  Given the uncertain future, best is to hedge ETH with ETC.  Ideally, you should put equal value in both if you are totally unsure about which one will "win" (if any), which means that you should trade about 3/8 of your ETH holdings for ETC.  (assuming that the ETC price is about 1/8 of the ETH price).  In that case, you already had 1/8 of your value in ETC and 7/8 in ETH, and you're adding 3/8 to it (while losing 3/8 of ETH), so that you obtain 4/8 of your value in ETH and 4/8 of your value in ETC.

That would be the "maximum entropy" hedge, if you are totally ignorant about their future rise or fall in value.

In reality people seem to make another estimation (give it a higher chance that, say, ETH will double, rather than that ETC will double) and hence assign a different ratio to their wallets.  This is essentially what their market price ratio indicates.  There are probably people not hedging at all, and purely holding ETH (or purely holding ETC), but I guess most will hedge some.

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC  ::) ::)

i think there will be coordinated dump of the ETC in the next few weeks to finish off the Ethereum Classic.

The dump of the ETC will not kill the ETC. There will be some coordinated 51% attack on the ETC.

they both will die eventually some day so there is no reason why not because it is bad with a lot of peoblems.

but as of today, ETC is the big deal because it is growing and the trade volume shows that whales are showing a big favor towards ETC for now.

When the ETC price is $10 or more, we can say it will replace the ETH. Now, it is just $1, it is vulnerable.

Vitalik is not a scammer. And you really destroy the word 'scam' to mean literally everything in crypto.


However I do believe Vitalik is controlled by people around him and these people do not have pure intentions in the sense of developing good crypto.

A 51% attack only rolls back a chain for so long as one sustains the 51% hash rate.  It is a good trick to do a few temporary double spends.  If you want to kill a chain permanently, you have to sustain the 51% hash rate.  That's quite an investment in vandalism, and moreover, you will probably be recognized (IP address launching all the false blocks).

I really doubt that anyone in his right mind is going to do so.  It is not happening with crypto that have the same PoW function and wildly different hash rates, so why should this happen to ETC ?   

When ETH has lowered to $2, too :-)

I don't see any significant long term driving force behind ETC/ETH.  It was the promise of complex smart contracts, but that's over now.  What else can ETC/ETH offer ?

I have similar thoughts to the OP. Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum ETC?

Will the Ethereum Foundation dump its ETc? I think it still have lots of ETC from the holding of ETH.

You are a sandwich short a picnic kid.

100 reasons are given to you and you stubbornly reply with "NO" ?

He is guilty by intent !
He has no room to wiggle here at all.
He was caught in 2014 with his ICO "Scheme" on launch day.
THEN !
His behavior all through 2016 reinforced it more & more.

While he DUMPED on you all for a small fortune !

Should a scammy ass useless ICO scheme "token" MarketCap be worth a billion dollars +
WHEN it is not even used as intended ?

You shit talking profiteer kidiots have nothing.
No retorts.. no excuses.. you ALL fucking caught red-handed
parading a around this giant massive billion dollar cluster fuck of a god damn Ponzi scam.

You all tried to make excuses and kept bobbing & weaving trying to cook up new retorts.
THEY ALL FAILED !
You are done Kidiots.
Put a fork in ya because you are all finished.

Want to know what a scammer is ?
Let's start with IBM, Microsoft and "Big Banks" using & "buying shitloads" of Ethereum.
True, true & true ?
No !
A lie and another lie and another fucking lie !

Which makes him a scamming piece of shit douche who is now rich after dumping 25% of his "Holdings" on you all.. which i might add is a bit fishy how NONE of you asked HOW he fucking got 7 or 8 million dollars in "ICO" coins in the first place.

You scammy ass ETH profiteer losers can spew bullshit out of your dick holsters till you are blue in the face..
But it's all in vain kidiots !
The outside world gove 0 fucks   .

But the Vitalik is even richer after the surge of the ETC price. Are you going to take some action to reduce the ETC price?

Vitalik said he is 100% with the ETH. So he might dump his ETC if he still has any. That could increase the supply of ETC.

The next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtoke on will be the ETC lovers. Vitalk and his friends have too many.

When the Vitalik and friends dump the ETC, the ETC price could drop a lot and it might even go to zero.

They have the incentive to do that. A single Ethereum ETC chain will be more valuable than two chains.

I will not be the victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on. I will not buy any ETC in the future.

However, you might be the victim of the DAO hacker. He might dump his "stolen" ETC to the market.

So the ETC investors should convince the DAO hacker not to dump the ETC and ask him to support the development of the ETC.

There is a possibility that the DAO hacker does not support the Ethereum any way. So he will just kill it.

The hacker did not make its intention clear. So the ETC price is low. If he donate the ETC to the ETC development, the price could rise.

Who knows if this was all an inside job at this point. Look at this shit:

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/

I cant believe anyone is still supporting ETH instead of selling and going all in on ETC.

That is old fud news. The last information can be found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4xasg3/follow_up_statement_on_the_etc_salvaged_from/?st=irs01o2h&sh=aa71daa2

From the link, it seems those over 7 million ETC will be returned to the original owners. I am wonder if the other 3.6 million ETC will not returned or not.

There is no mention about the action plan for the 3.6 million ETC owner yet. It is possible that he already shorted the ETC and has already made enough profit.

Why you think ETH is scam? It makes so many guys rich, I don't think it is scam, and it is a good token for ico investors, ICO guys love this coin very much.   ;D :D

Huge 1100BTC support but whale dumped at the peak, nice.

The Ethereum also had a hard fork and make many people rich as they can have extra money, the Ethereum Classic.

What FUD? That statement only makes the ETH foundation even more pathetic. Only ETH bagholders would believe that ridiculous excuse of a statement. ETH has really turned into a cult of bagholders.

From the reading so far, the DAO hackers has nothing to do with the Ethereum Foundation. It is just an individual or a group of people.

But some people want to associate it with the EThereum Foundation so that they can discredit the EF. They might not succeed if more facts are revealed.

Actually I think ETC is a scam, it is unnecessary, should be void!

You can be right. We shall see if the ETC can survive the big dumps by the pumpers and the DAO hackers in the next months.

I hope they won't survive, becuase etc is served for big eth whales, which is unfair to small holders. Rich gets richer!

That is the true. The big ETH holders also have large amount of ETC. The higher ETC price can make them even richer.

It simply means there is so much ether in circulation right now, ethereum is not going off the scene anytime soon, to the dismay of some.

The Ethereum has strong community support and it is financially rich.

So it can support the development and improve the smart contract platform quite a lot.

I think there are still good support for the Ethereum smart contract system. The PoW hashing rate is also very high now.

The POW hashing for the Ethereum ETH is at record level at the moment, it shows the miners confidence in the ETH.

The ETC hashing hate has reduced slightly.

some folks switch to the most profitable coin of the hour/day/whatever. some pools will take care of that for you, other miners just check and switch.

me, im a set and forget kind of miner, so im still on eth. mainly cuz im too lazy.

At the moment, the Monero mining is the most profitable. It is about 30-50% more profitable to mine than ETH.

The difficulty of Monero mining has risen. It is just about 20% more profitable now. It will reduce further.

I think the price of the Monero will be kept at the current level or higher. So the mining hash will increase further.

The Monero is the most profitable coin to mine at the moment. So the hash rate will increase in the near future.

The price of the Monero has dropped recently, so some miners are moving to other coins as the difficulty has dropped.

The mining difficulty of the Etheruem is 72T now, while the mining difficulty of Monero dropped about 30%.