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June 14, 2016, 04:24:50 PM
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170k eth just got dumped on the high. Also big sellwall on dao.
RIP eth-bagholders.


I was taking a train into NYC and after some chatting one of the guys sitting next to me said he was buying Ethereum. I mentioned proof-of-stake vs proof-of-work but he had never heard of either.

I think ETH is a scamtoken specifically made to defraud wallstreet noob-investors.


Not really.  I think you're just butthurt and suffering from sour grapes.  Probably invested your life savings in litecoin or some other technological dead end coin that is going nowhere.

Ethereum price will continue to rise and you will continue to be asspained

Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink


HA HA HA   Litecoin "community"

Sour grapes. Deal with it.

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June 14, 2016, 04:33:16 PM
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170k eth just got dumped on the high. Also big sellwall on dao.
RIP eth-bagholders.


I was taking a train into NYC and after some chatting one of the guys sitting next to me said he was buying Ethereum. I mentioned proof-of-stake vs proof-of-work but he had never heard of either.

I think ETH is a scamtoken specifically made to defraud wallstreet noob-investors.


Not really.  I think you're just butthurt and suffering from sour grapes.  Probably invested your life savings in litecoin or some other technological dead end coin that is going nowhere.

Ethereum price will continue to rise and you will continue to be asspained

Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink


HA HA HA   Litecoin "community"

Sour grapes. Deal with it.

I can see your signature. You seem to post only in the hopes of getting some donations from some ETH-whales for posting crap on the forum. Are you really that much of a lowlife? How about getting a job instead?
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June 14, 2016, 05:18:28 PM
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170k eth just got dumped on the high. Also big sellwall on dao.
RIP eth-bagholders.


I was taking a train into NYC and after some chatting one of the guys sitting next to me said he was buying Ethereum. I mentioned proof-of-stake vs proof-of-work but he had never heard of either.

I think ETH is a scamtoken specifically made to defraud wallstreet noob-investors.


Not really.  I think you're just butthurt and suffering from sour grapes.  Probably invested your life savings in litecoin or some other technological dead end coin that is going nowhere.

Ethereum price will continue to rise and you will continue to be asspained

Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink

That was epic divine crypto-pwnage !

You bent him over and snapped it clean off that shameless deceitful ETH Shilltard.

Go back to your other account(s) now Investard..

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June 14, 2016, 05:52:55 PM
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Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink
Decentralized ? Check this out https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/ltc/analysis/BTC
Now tell me how decentralized LTC is when its mined in china and 99.30% of the volume is traded in CNY. It looks to me like chinese are buying / selling from / to themselves, pumping the coin and sell it to the 0.7% fools that support a part of its price and get scammed.
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June 14, 2016, 06:05:35 PM
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Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink
Decentralized ? Check this out https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/ltc/analysis/BTC
Now tell me how decentralized LTC is when its mined in china and 99.30% of the volume is traded in CNY. It looks to me like chinese are buying / selling from / to themselves, pumping the coin and sell it to the 0.7% fools that support a part of its price and get scammed.

I agree with that the fact that the mining of litecoin is very centralised. It is mainly done by the Chinese in china.

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I would say it's still decentral but there is a trend to less decentralisation, that is true. Sadly that's an issue not many seem to care about.
It was even suggested to raise the blocksize when it was clear that would lead to even faster centralisation.

But pointing at btc and saying "it is less and less decentral therefore it's ok when we're selling central tokens now" instead of saying "we need to find a solution to keep coins decentral" is just extremely dumb.
If it was like that i'd leave crypto immediately andmany others too when the word got around.

All you people seem to take this coins-game for granted. It is not. If you fuck up these very fundamental things people will stop putting money into it.



It's quite amusing how the scammers defend their centralized scam-token by saying "b-b-b-but LTC is dominated by china that's why we're selling facebook-tokens now"

You are all pretty retarded actually.

You lowlife americans sell your LTC to the chinese for way too cheap and don't mine it. You just gave it away to china and now you're saying that's why it would be ok to sell people centralized scamtokens via ipo. Fucking retards, lol.

China will not accept ETH. They show you the middlefinger and pump btc and ltc aswell as some other coins you all were writing off already (like EAC, TIPS, TIX ...) to some crazy numbers in the future to show you what fucking loosers you really are.

Chinese aren't stupid. They won't just buy any shitcoin you present to them. They'll buy you out for way too cheap from the good coins and leave you ethically broken dirtbags with the shitcoins. Much like they bought all your gold and silver also. America is moraly bankrupt and doesn't even notice it. You're a bunch of degenerates with your pyramid scam-tokens.  

America better bends over because china will fuck you retards in the ass financially ON ALL LEVELS!
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June 15, 2016, 10:04:34 AM
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Chinese aren't stupid. They won't just buy any shitcoin you present to them. They'll buy you out for way too cheap from the good coins and leave you ethically broken dirtbags with the shitcoins. Much like they bought all your gold and silver also. America is moraly bankrupt and doesn't even notice it. You're a bunch of degenerates with your pyramid scam-tokens.  

America better bends over because china will fuck you retards in the anus financially ON ALL LEVELS!

The GenXers are still the strongest generation in the USA. Your complaint is about the generations that have followed us. And of course the boomers before us are married to socialism and big government.

You can't just take $200Mn from the people, without doing vast amount of researches on your product

That insouciance is what happens when you put Millennials in control.

Barry Silbert says:

Although Silbert is excited about Ethereum, he does not agree with the vision held by some of Ethereum’s most-ardent supporters. He explained:

    “I sense there’s a certain utopian view of society, which I may or may not agree with philosophically, that I just don’t see from a real-world application perspective happening anytime soon.”

I have a new theory that the altcoin speculation market is largely stratified by generational differences (in addition to for example cultural differences between Europeans and Americans for example).

On one end of the spectrum, we have Millennials (Z generation) who were raised spoiled by their middle-age boomer parents, and thus have this sort of unrealistic cartoonish or "everything is  a game" (and take money from the rich like we did to our parents) outlook similar to how Vitalik described himself:

Buterin won’t commit to a full explanation of why he became interested in Bitcoin on the second go around. He had recently quit playing World of Warcraft, and perhaps he was just looking for the next obsession to take its place, he says. But he does admit to having a dualistic worldview that faulted centralized powers with many of society’s sins.

“I had a much more cartoon mentality,” he says as he squeezes a lemon wedge into his green tea, then begins looping the string on the teabag incessantly around the handle of his mug. “I saw everything to do with either government regulation or corporate control as just being plain evil. And I assumed that people in those institutions were kind of like Mr. Burns, sitting behind their desks saying, ‘Excellent. How can I screw a thousand people over this time.’”

In this way, his worldview was harmonious with the vast majority of Bitcoin early adopters who fully expected the technology to operate as a stealthy foil for the status quo. And though he says he has substantially updated his binary assessment of good and evil, Buterin is still motivated by a conviction that the powerful have far too much power.

“I think a large part of the consequence is necessarily going to be disempowering some of these centralized players to some extent,” he says. “Because ultimately power is a zero sum game. And if you talk about empowering the little guy, as much as you want to couch it in flowery terminology that makes it sound fluffy and good, you are necessarily disempowering the big guy. And personally I say screw the big guy. They have enough money already.”

Just older than them are the Tweeners (Y generation) such as Daniel Larimer who were born in between the neglected X generation and the spoiled Z generation, thus they have a confused identity with some mix of wannabee Libertarianism like us GenXers but needing the pillow of increasing collectivism/socialism under which they were raised.

I am GenX. We were abandoned by our parents and the socialism wasn't very well developed yet in the 1970s and 1980s when we were growing up. So we had to fend for ourselves and thus are very pragmatic.

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What Steemit is trying to do is collectivize our funds amongst the entire social network, then redistribute our funds based on who receives the most valid up voting.

Sorry but people don't want to join a social network to have their funds taken from them (for all those who are average) and redistributed to those who are above average.

Dan Larimer is a smart guy but in my opinion has always been (since I first debated him in BCT in 2013 about his plan to pay every token HODLer a dividend) a socialist/collectivist in a faux Libertarian skin. And that is why in my opinion all his designs have failed to achieve greatness.

Here are more recent examples I've experienced when interfacing with these irresponsible youth:

It is about you failing to respond to any of my technical points and wanting to just ignore the reality.

You don't want to have substantive debate with an expert.

Seems you are offended by something. I asked you what is 'rancid' in the other thread I linked to which had expressed some of the same logic as your OP, and you said the threads smell like fish. That isn't a very substantive response. You are all fluff. How about focusing in on the issues instead. I raised many issues and you seem to not be interested even though they are directly related to your OP.

Any way, I don't care. Enjoy what ever you are doing with this thread.

The reason I mentioned ego is in response to your statement, " With such "Technical superiority" your modesty is astounding.". I asked you to be aware of my knowledge set and not brush off my comments nonchalantly. You got offended by my lack of modesty.

It seems you don't comprehend the seriousness of the situation facing the world right now. When you are stuck in a 666 enslavement system some years from now, it will be too late to get your freedom back.

I have been working night and day for many years to prevent that from happening. You made an OP that seemed to recognize that Bitcoin is in dilemma. I am making you aware that it was designed to be in that dilemma. Because it is designed to enslave the world.

I have studied the consensus design and even explained that Satoshi didn't solve the Byzantine Generals Problem. I have studied the SegWit and other changes being made to Bitcoin. There is a pattern to all of this.

Your technical expertise are appreciated elsewhere this was a logical discussion about Bitcoin and only Bitcoin's future. Not the future of the whole world.

Bitcoin can't be fixed. The issue that your OP explains in insoluble. You can only hope to replace it. Bitcoin will be scaled up centralized. And it will enslave the world. Period. That is the answer.

I offered another option, but you don't want to discuss it. So end of thread.

The centralized Bitcoin won't be 51% attacked bcz those controlling it will have the 666 control system they designed Bitcoin to accomplish. In the transitionary phase now, the Chinese miners will be handed lots of wealth as the process of centralizing mining proceeds. We can't say every Chinese miner today knows he is part of the ultimate plan. We can't even say the Blockstream devs know they are part of some diabolical plan. They are just trying to fix a design that can't be fixed without restarting from scratch. Compartmentalization is the modus operandi of the DEEP STATE. This is a process. The DEEP STATE that designed Bitcoin has a plan over years.

Our other hope is the system blows up technically. But that is why Blockstream is receiving so much funding, because they probably have the expertise to centralize Bitcoin sufficiently whil still being able to give some illusion of decentralization for sufficient time that Bitcoin maximalists fall into the trap, of which SegWit is a major step in that direction.


In all honesty the Vcash project moves fast. It's only a year and half old and has evolved quite a bit since genesis. Because of Johns rapid pace of development on the Vcash project we (the community) are consistently trying to play ketchup understanding his technology and architecture. It's a learning process for us and much as it is for you. We are only human. Unfortunately the very people like Fuserleer who could take a deeper look into John's code is unwilling. So what more to discuss? His mind is made up already who are we to tell him he's wrong?

I pity you n00bs. Sincerely good luck.

Welcome back TPTB. I thank you for your sincerity but I don't really need your pity. I have every confidence in John Conner's work because he actually developing and pushing real software. He doesn't just talk, he does. In my n00bie opinion that's what matters most. Talk is cheap because action speaks louder than words.  

Action. Like the 1000 shitcoins that came before and died. And Vcash is apparently not entirely launched yet.

Yes you are welcome to hump any random garbage can along the side of the road. That is a form of action. Again I pity you.

Vcash is in beta sure but damn guy you don't have be to rude. Sure we have different views no need to get hostile and start insulting others for it.    

I am not intending to be any more rude than the rudeness of your insinuation that I have not done action. How is for example this action by myself not action?

Action is a nebulous term. That is what I am explaining to you by example.

I am also explaining you are quite blind to the action that others are doing. A single-minded focus on the random tree stump in front of you, is what a dog does.
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June 16, 2016, 12:19:44 PM
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I will keep on mining the Etheruem in the future. I will save some for the long term and become PoS stake.

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June 16, 2016, 12:32:12 PM
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Bought most my LTC below 2$ and sadly i didn't invest my lifesavings. I should have done that.

So you are saying your centralized soon-to-be inferior POS scam-ipo-token with a bloated blockchain that derives it's value from a pumpgroup and nowhere else is better than a decentralized cryptocurrency with sound fundamentals and healthy community support aswell as a solidified ecosystem?

You're the one about to loose money, not me Wink
Decentralized ? Check this out https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/ltc/analysis/BTC
Now tell me how decentralized LTC is when its mined in china and 99.30% of the volume is traded in CNY. It looks to me like chinese are buying / selling from / to themselves, pumping the coin and sell it to the 0.7% fools that support a part of its price and get scammed.

I agree with that the fact that the mining of litecoin is very centralised. It is mainly done by the Chinese in china.

ALL 100% of Ethereum was put out via an ICO.

..that makes it fully & completely 100% centralized vs. Litecoin having TRUE decentralization.

Don't confuse dishonest deceitful lies with truth and reality kidiots.

Just because you loiter around spouting off dishonest baseless claims about ETH don't make them real.

For example:
I mined Litecoin 3 years ago..
I am not Chinese nor a "mining farm"
Now look at ETH.

Could i have mined it on Launch ?
NOPE.
It was an ICO launch.

THEN !

Look at my ETH-scam topic on page 1
Some rich people bought them all for pennies on the dollar the minute the coin launched.
This was a CENTRALIZED SCAM FROM LAUNCH !

And i quote..
Re: [NFO] Ethereum = Scam
July 23, 2014, 01:39:39 PM

Fake volume.

That's my guess. Can't prove it, but watched the tx's coming in. Sequenced, 1 btc buys.




EDIT:
Further explanation Wink

Since those were coming in with 1 BTC blocks in the tune of a million dollars
within seconds of the IPO scam launching (when NOBODY knew about it)
..we can all safely assume it was manipulation.
The odds that regular users all decided to simultaneously buy ONLY "1 BTC" chunks of ETH
is simply retarded.. it was the dev team etc and they were caught red handed !

ETH really is a scam ..and you guys really DO need to smarten the fuck up.

STOP SUPPORTING Scammy Scheme tokens for profit Greedy Investards !

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I missed the IPO of Etheruem two years ago. But I am mining it at the moment, it make decent profit, you can also do that.

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I missed the IPO of Etheruem two years ago. But I am mining it at the moment, it make decent profit, you can also do that.

By shorting it?

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June 19, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
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I will keep on mining the Etheruem in the future. I will save some for the long term and become PoS stake.

It may be shrewd to mine (if you insist), sell now, and rebuy later when the market settles out. Eth is most likely going down, bitcoin is most likely going up, and you could have more eth that what you would have been able to mine if you do this correctly.
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June 19, 2016, 06:47:38 PM
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I will keep on mining the Etheruem in the future. I will save some for the long term and become PoS stake.

It may be shrewd to mine (if you insist), sell now, and rebuy later when the market settles out. Eth is most likely going down, bitcoin is most likely going up, and you could have more eth that what you would have been able to mine if you do this correctly.

If you sell now and buy back later, but if the Ethereum price going down, you will still make a loss. It is difficult.
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June 19, 2016, 06:49:35 PM
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This stuttering "genius" is your leader? Vitalik was clearly flustered by the question. Must listen to this! And look at the body language of Gavin Wood and the other guy on the podium.

"I am 99.999% certain this is bug free."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahj4WJtp20&feature=youtu.be&t=42m52s

The Naive hubris is very dangerous within Vitalik.
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June 21, 2016, 09:06:44 AM
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This stuttering "genius" is your leader? Vitalik was clearly flustered by the question. Must listen to this! And look at the body language of Gavin Wood and the other guy on the podium.

"I am 99.999% certain this is bug free."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahj4WJtp20&feature=youtu.be&t=42m52s

The Naive hubris is very dangerous within Vitalik.

You do not have the Ethereum, so you do not have to worry about "our" leader. We the miners will determine the course.

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June 21, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
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You do not have the Ethereum, so you do not have to worry about "our" leader. We the miners will determine the course.

Keep in mind that this is the same attacker who attacked Mt.Gox. He doesn't waste his time trying to convince you. He just does it.

His attack is ongoing and (assuming he succeeds) you won't realize he has won until it is too late for you to sell ETH.

...

His [the "attacker's"] opinion on whether Ethereum will survive his "attack":

Quote from: TheCon
The whole of ETH and DAO was a con to start with. Bunch of rich btc invectors wanted a new play toy. Don't worry folks the price will shoot back up because no one cares if there is security risks or a Ponzi that will never be used by ordinary citizens

DAO is a casino that just got robbed buy like all casinos they never fall because of human greed.

That [bolded] part is right.

You'd probably want to read the entire post quoted above, by clicking it to go to the thread whence it came.
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June 22, 2016, 07:33:16 AM
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You do not have the Ethereum, so you do not have to worry about "our" leader. We the miners will determine the course.

Keep in mind that this is the same attacker who attacked Mt.Gox. He doesn't waste his time trying to convince you. He just does it.

His attack is ongoing and (assuming he succeeds) you won't realize he has won until it is too late for you to sell ETH.

...

His [the "attacker's"] opinion on whether Ethereum will survive his "attack":

Quote from: TheCon
The whole of ETH and DAO was a con to start with. Bunch of rich btc invectors wanted a new play toy. Don't worry folks the price will shoot back up because no one cares if there is security risks or a Ponzi that will never be used by ordinary citizens

DAO is a casino that just got robbed buy like all casinos they never fall because of human greed.

That [bolded] part is right.

You'd probably want to read the entire post quoted above, by clicking it to go to the thread whence it came.

How do you know it is the same attacker? If we catch him, the Mt Gox traders will also benefit, it is in their interest.

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June 22, 2016, 07:38:01 AM
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it is just fluctuating there are not special for me, the price always are like that. what is the problem with vitalik? he is just developer of coin.
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June 24, 2016, 09:53:32 AM
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it is just fluctuating there are not special for me, the price always are like that. what is the problem with vitalik? he is just developer of coin.

The price is still quite volatile at the moment. I think most of us are waiting for the proposals to get the funds back from the hacker.

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June 24, 2016, 10:56:33 AM
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God iamnotback i love some of your insights... was just thinking about age groups in relation to different coins' communities and the rammifications of that, like ether has a lot of aggressive young hounds and some other coins seem to have a lot of 40-something year old serious build step by step type people.
And then sometimes your comments are rage inducing pleb tier nonsense.
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