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Title: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: bearex on May 28, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: pitham1 on May 28, 2016, 07:20:17 AM
Even if points 1 and 2 come true, I don't think there will be panic at point 3.
I expect disappointment and people gradually exiting, rather than a sudden dump.


Title: Re: Does halving really matter that much?
Post by: longbob72 on May 28, 2016, 07:28:56 AM
Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

Just because of that? You're not factoring mining costs and the rate of adoption (bitcoin users is not that many at the moment)?

The price might stay as it is even after the halving, yes. But it is likely to increase because less bitcoins is going to be sold in the market and because more people are going to want their share of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Belligerent Fool on May 28, 2016, 07:34:50 AM
I think the Bitcoin Markets are riding the hype train especially with the whole Chinese Yuan situation and whatever comes next for some uplifting news.

Anything to do with the Chinese and investments, the sheep will follow...

I personally think that everyone is:

1. Waiting for the Halving and hyping it up.
2. Halving happens and price doesn't explode or the price gets a mediocre high like the whole $1000 mark a few years back then has the gradual decline with people blatantly trying to keep the price up.
3. People realise this and sell their BTC while it is above its usual peak & wait for a steady floor in the months to come.

This will be what ? The 2nd time the Bitcoin Reward will be halving, the first time nothing spectacular happened except for the above 3 points... Will history repeat itself again ?

Also note Bitcoin didn't really pick up with a captivating price & global headlines until late 2012 and it was released at the start of 2009.

There was a lot more trading of Bitcoin for things instead of money when nobody knew about it & not many exchanges existed, now its all about cashing out and getting rich so the whole Bicoin Industry trying to get Bitcoin out there for the everyday joe & use is it for everyday life is a bit outrageous when the price always affects its value.

Volatility in the price is the maker and breaker of Bitcoin.





Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: wuvdoll on May 28, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
Well I'm pretty much sure that it's going to matter THAT much.
As you can see, the value has quite increased by $50 in over two days and it was quite a fuzz already. What more on the halving? This is going to be a fun ride.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Maslate on May 30, 2016, 03:58:29 AM
Well I'm pretty much sure that it's going to matter THAT much.
As you can see, the value has quite increased by $50 in over two days and it was quite a fuzz already. What more on the halving? This is going to be a fun ride.
I agree, its going to be fun in riding the success of bitcoins for this month, and hopefully it will continue to rise to maximize our profit in our earnings and of course for our valuable investment.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: yayayo on May 30, 2016, 10:47:33 PM
I agree with the skeptics of a halving-mania. The event is widely known, so it's very likely priced in already. People predicting a buying spree at the halving have exactly one data point that could be interpreted in their favor: The price movement after the previous halving. However that data is purely correlational. It could as well be pure coincidence, caused by totally unrelated factors.

Maybe the halving will trigger some additional media reporting that might increase Bitcoin awareness. Apart from that I do not really believe in the various theories regarding the hedging behavior of miners and the like.

For me the halving is primarily a great day to celebrate the birth of Bitcoin. It shows that the algorithm behind this huge network is being executed according to plan... :)

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Corenin on May 30, 2016, 10:48:58 PM
This is my first halving in bitcoin and it really matters to me, as I am expecting to earn some good profits from it and it and make me rich for sure.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: AndySt on May 30, 2016, 11:02:49 PM
This is my first halving in bitcoin and it really matters to me, as I am expecting to earn some good profits from it and it and make me rich for sure.
Wealth comes to the stubborn and successful people the most important thing is not to miss a good time ;)


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Amph on May 31, 2016, 05:28:06 AM
yeah because without the miner taking their profit, you have nothing besides an insecure network that can fall apart at any given time

price need to increase no matter what other think, it's how this entire thing was designed, the halving just happear to be the right catalyst for this


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: erwin45hacked on May 31, 2016, 06:18:45 AM
yeah because without the miner taking their profit, you have nothing besides an insecure network that can fall apart at any given time

price need to increase no matter what other think, it's how this entire thing was designed, the halving just happear to be the right catalyst for this

The entire thing was designed to be a currency not something that based itself solely on hype. The reason that the price increase was because there are alot stupid people that believe the price will increase after haling a d the truth was they were the one causing it to increase by buying it


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: alyssa85 on May 31, 2016, 06:58:29 AM
It matters from the point of view of those who trade bitcoins. Speculators like to coincide pumps with news, that way noob investors believe that the price move is down to the news, and buy. A pump in the absence of news just looks like a pump.

In the old days there would be a pump on every altcoin when it got listed on Mintpal or Cryptsy - that event was the "news" and the gullible usually bought as a result.

During the lead-up to the Litecoin halvening, there was also a pump, though the pump fizzled out a few weeks before the halvening (the price had risen so rapidly that many long-term holders couldn't resist selling).


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on May 31, 2016, 07:32:14 AM
yeah because without the miner taking their profit, you have nothing besides an insecure network that can fall apart at any given time

price need to increase no matter what other think, it's how this entire thing was designed, the halving just happear to be the right catalyst for this

The entire thing was designed to be a currency not something that based itself solely on hype. The reason that the price increase was because there are alot stupid people that believe the price will increase after haling a d the truth was they were the one causing it to increase by buying it


yeah but this sudden increase will fall down again after the those people realized after halving that the price didn't actually affected by the said halving ,as there are still a lot to mined and another reason is that demands for this BTC can always be matched by the sales, because this is a currency and it is not consumed so price of this coin are actually not affected even though the supply from miners gone low as those 25 million will always be on the network. and will not fade. as there are Buyers; there are sellers and vice versa.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Chrismeister on May 31, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
Well I'm pretty much sure that it's going to matter THAT much.
As you can see, the value has quite increased by $50 in over two days and it was quite a fuzz already. What more on the halving? This is going to be a fun ride.
I matters to some people and some people do not even care that much. People that want to buy coins again this is really important because they then can buy more coins for a cheaper price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: AlgoSwan on May 31, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on May 31, 2016, 10:05:44 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.

So what you are trying to say is that BTC price will increase due to scarcity because of the upcoming halving?,

Well for me I can only say that the price for now will rise because of the people speculations that the halving might have an effect to BTC price due to scarcity of the said coin.

But it is just the speculations that makes people buy and buy more BTC thus making it's price higher and it is not the effect of the halving in the end, because even though 25 million of BTC had been in circulation in future there are no BTC that will loss from that circulation and it will continue to be trade even there is no mining anymore, let's keep in mind that even BTC are not consume or loss when use in market but it is only traded.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: AlgoSwan on May 31, 2016, 10:17:05 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.

So what you are trying to say is that BTC price will increase due to scarcity because of the upcoming halving?,

Well for me I can only say that the price for now will rise because of the people speculations that the halving might have an effect to BTC price due to scarcity of the said coin.

But it is just the speculations that makes people buy and buy more BTC thus making it's price higher and it is not the effect of the halving in the end, because even though 25 million of BTC had been in circulation in future there are no BTC that will loss from that circulation and it will continue to be trade even there is no mining anymore, let's keep in mind that even BTC are not consume or loss when use in market but it is only traded.

Good point about speculation. But still supply and demand is the king. And we all know supply is very limited to BTC. And when the scarcity phase enters (I think it will happen in next few years), prices on any currency, commodity starts to behave parabolic rise. But still I think military backed paper currency issuers won't allow this to happen. But I don't really know how will they do this? Any idea?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on May 31, 2016, 10:27:21 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.

So what you are trying to say is that BTC price will increase due to scarcity because of the upcoming halving?,

Well for me I can only say that the price for now will rise because of the people speculations that the halving might have an effect to BTC price due to scarcity of the said coin.

But it is just the speculations that makes people buy and buy more BTC thus making it's price higher and it is not the effect of the halving in the end, because even though 25 million of BTC had been in circulation in future there are no BTC that will loss from that circulation and it will continue to be trade even there is no mining anymore, let's keep in mind that even BTC are not consume or loss when use in market but it is only traded.

Good point about speculation. But still supply and demand is the king. And we all know supply is very limited to BTC. And when the scarcity phase enters (I think it will happen in next few years), prices on any currency, commodity starts to behave parabolic rise. But still I think military backed paper currency issuers won't allow this to happen. But I don't really know how will they do this? Any idea?

Actually I don't have the idea at the time regarding on their plan, but as what I observed if the 25 million had been in circulation the price will still be stable as long as the large bag holders out there didn't sell that much at lower price or higher price, when that time comes they have the control over the BTC prices.

And actually we can't compare BTC to commodities since commodities are used and loss thus making it's price higher when there is less to produced that can't match the supplies needed for the demands that we can say that it is the scarcity phase of the said commodities happened.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: 23dzmaz on May 31, 2016, 10:28:22 AM
I think the price of bitcoin will increase when the halving is come and it will go down when the halving is done and all people selling their bitcoin together.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: senyorito123 on May 31, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.

So what you are trying to say is that BTC price will increase due to scarcity because of the upcoming halving?,

Well for me I can only say that the price for now will rise because of the people speculations that the halving might have an effect to BTC price due to scarcity of the said coin.

But it is just the speculations that makes people buy and buy more BTC thus making it's price higher and it is not the effect of the halving in the end, because even though 25 million of BTC had been in circulation in future there are no BTC that will loss from that circulation and it will continue to be trade even there is no mining anymore, let's keep in mind that even BTC are not consume or loss when use in market but it is only traded.

Good point about speculation. But still supply and demand is the king. And we all know supply is very limited to BTC. And when the scarcity phase enters (I think it will happen in next few years), prices on any currency, commodity starts to behave parabolic rise. But still I think military backed paper currency issuers won't allow this to happen. But I don't really know how will they do this? Any idea?

Actually I don't have the idea at the time regarding on their plan, but as what I observed if the 25 million had been in circulation the price will still be stable as long as the large bag holders out there didn't sell that much at lower price or higher price, when that time comes they have the control over the BTC prices.

And actually we can't compare BTC to commodities since commodities are used and loss thus making it's price higher when there is less to produced that can't match the supplies needed for the demands that we can say that it is the scarcity phase of the said commodities happened.

But i think bitcoin can be could also as comodity as you can see there men bitcoin is base on supply and demands just what like for comodity and the bigger the market with it the more its good and the more people hoard the more price higher just what like happen to products but in the case of bitcoin it is good, because we can earn more if price really high


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on May 31, 2016, 10:53:14 AM
I think the price of bitcoin will increase when the halving is come and it will go down when the halving is done and all people selling their bitcoin together.

You're correct with that, the rise on the price of the BTC is the people speculation that the halving will have an effect that cause an increase in the price of BTC, that speculation makes them buy more and more thinking that it will rise but their demands is the reason for the rise of BTC price. and for that reason after the halving happened and no visible effect had been seen in the price of BTC they will all be disappointed and sell their BTC thus bringing the price back to normal again or much more lower.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on May 31, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
Last halving time: November 28, 2012 (Price: $12.1) Total 10M coins in circulation
After the halving, prices exploded more than 15 times in just 4 months.

Now: 15M coins in circulation

50 to 25 still seems ample, whereas 12.5 begins to feel like a small number suggesting scarcity.

So what you are trying to say is that BTC price will increase due to scarcity because of the upcoming halving?,

Well for me I can only say that the price for now will rise because of the people speculations that the halving might have an effect to BTC price due to scarcity of the said coin.

But it is just the speculations that makes people buy and buy more BTC thus making it's price higher and it is not the effect of the halving in the end, because even though 25 million of BTC had been in circulation in future there are no BTC that will loss from that circulation and it will continue to be trade even there is no mining anymore, let's keep in mind that even BTC are not consume or loss when use in market but it is only traded.

Good point about speculation. But still supply and demand is the king. And we all know supply is very limited to BTC. And when the scarcity phase enters (I think it will happen in next few years), prices on any currency, commodity starts to behave parabolic rise. But still I think military backed paper currency issuers won't allow this to happen. But I don't really know how will they do this? Any idea?

Actually I don't have the idea at the time regarding on their plan, but as what I observed if the 25 million had been in circulation the price will still be stable as long as the large bag holders out there didn't sell that much at lower price or higher price, when that time comes they have the control over the BTC prices.

And actually we can't compare BTC to commodities since commodities are used and loss thus making it's price higher when there is less to produced that can't match the supplies needed for the demands that we can say that it is the scarcity phase of the said commodities happened.

But i think bitcoin can be could also as comodity as you can see there men bitcoin is base on supply and demands just what like for comodity and the bigger the market with it the more its good and the more people hoard the more price higher just what like happen to products but in the case of bitcoin it is good, because we can earn more if price really high

Yes BTC and commodities have the same thing when it comes to trading but  commodities have a stocks or supply that had been monitored, like for instance an oil, if the oil stocks are low the price will go up because there we're a lot of demands for buy but there are a limited of sellers, which the sellers make the price high as it is in demand that is the said  scarcity of oil, but when it comes to BTC, it doesn't have a stock that are consumed or loss after trading, after trading it is still in the network running in the block chain, not compared to the products and commodities which are used and consumed.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on May 31, 2016, 11:19:06 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?
Many will think that bitcoin will rise but for me is it possible and there is a possible that the price will not rise. I only know is what if the newbie or other buyer of bitcoin didnt buy in that price? The only reason why it rise it is because many people want to buy it and the demand will cause of price increase . theres a possible that the price of it will down becasue many newbie will panic.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: AlgoSwan on May 31, 2016, 11:28:48 AM

Yes BTC and commodities have the same thing when it comes to trading but  commodities have a stocks or supply that had been monitored, like for instance an oil, if the oil stocks are low the price will go up because there we're a lot of demands for buy but there are a limited of sellers, which the sellers make the price high as it is in demand that is the said  scarcity of oil, but when it comes to BTC, it doesn't have a stock that are consumed or loss after trading, after trading it is still in the network running in the block chain, not compared to the products and commodities which are used and consumed.

Totally agree on commodities and BTC on very different supply and demand dynamics. But still we may use supply and demand information for BTC to decide if its price is cheap or expensive. One important aspect of this supply side: it is limited to 21 million units. And we have a total population of more than 8 billion people. And we are talking about a currency can be used in almost every transactions this 8 billion (and it is increasing every second) people are using. So regardless of halving speculation on BTC prices, the price of BTC can go only upside just the above reason. Of course BTC has its own weakness such as there is no military support and we all know when military fails to support a currency this currency should easily fail (Hint: Iraq dinar, Kuwait dinar in 1992, etc.) and can be removed from the world scene.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: DuckKeeper on May 31, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Well I'm pretty much sure that it's going to matter THAT much.
As you can see, the value has quite increased by $50 in over two days and it was quite a fuzz already. What more on the halving? This is going to be a fun ride.
I matters to some people and some people do not even care that much. People that want to buy coins again this is really important because they then can buy more coins for a cheaper price.
Some people cannot wait until the halving is happening because they want to buy some coins as soon as possible. So maybe for them it matters much because the price then gets cheaper. 


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: pearl11 on May 31, 2016, 02:11:43 PM
Yes of course, when halving started bitcoin rises up, and we do not know when it will stop.. But there are consequences when halving is takes its place..  But we will see if halving has really big impact to bitcoin..


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: SilverPunk on May 31, 2016, 02:56:59 PM
Yes ,halving is a  big deal for the users of bitcoin some of them will buy this halving to hold and wait again for the next halving period .it also matters online popularity of bitcoins that more people will be interested and do bitcoins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Altynbekova on May 31, 2016, 04:14:54 PM
Yes I think it matter because it will let people believe in it and also the fact is that it will attract a lot of people.
There will be a lot more publicity.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: socks435 on May 31, 2016, 04:31:22 PM
Well either the price is increase or not they are still panic to sell just like this price today many people right now are satisfied with this price thats why i think the price decreases because many people right now are panic to sell because of price increase ..


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: GamingBro on May 31, 2016, 04:54:08 PM
It's matter for many spheres of bitcoin workers, single miners are not so happy, traders and sellers are happy cause they can get extra money from selling right now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: shane on May 31, 2016, 05:11:02 PM
it is true, everyone is waiting for halving, then the price increases before halving, then why after halving the price increase? I think it will be a dump. and perhaps there will be panic also to sell when it


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: amacar2 on May 31, 2016, 05:54:57 PM
I think the current pump in price is more due to the halving hype but this also involves some great buy support as mostly after halving bitcoin price can go up due to limited supply.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Kprawn on May 31, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
I do not agree with you... I see a slight increase in the price under normal conditions {no other external factors influencing the price} or a massive increase under extraordinary circumstances, if

somethings happens, with the halving {Major country excepts Bitcoin or huge capital flight out of Chine etc etc. } Then we will reach a price ceiling, where people will want to start selling, because

the price are just to attractive not to sell... or they might just doubled or tripled their initial investment... Once these people start selling, the supply will increase and the price will go down again.  ;)


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Corenin on May 31, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
it is true, everyone is waiting for halving, then the price increases before halving, then why after halving the price increase? I think it will be a dump. and perhaps there will be panic also to sell when it

Yes I think price will decrease after the halving, as many people will sell their coins at the time of halving when they see higher price and it may result in decline in price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: ravens on May 31, 2016, 07:48:06 PM
I expect the price to increase for a little bit because not that many bitcoins will not be able to be mined.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: aranachristianjay on June 01, 2016, 04:05:15 PM
I expect the price to increase for a little bit because not that many bitcoins will not be able to be mined.

Yeah price increased but halving is not the actual reason of its increase, it is the speculation of the people that ting that BTC price will rise when halving comes thus making them buy for that thinking that causes the rise for now, and additionally you can add up to the rise the falling market of china, Halving is not yet happened and still on its way, so we might see the effect of it when it comes whether it will rise or fall but as what I think nothing will happen and buyers of BTC will be disappointed at the end.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: romero121 on June 01, 2016, 06:59:34 PM
it is true, everyone is waiting for halving, then the price increases before halving, then why after halving the price increase? I think it will be a dump. and perhaps there will be panic also to sell when it

Yes I think price will decrease after the halving, as many people will sell their coins at the time of halving when they see higher price and it may result in decline in price.

Even if there is not much of bitcoin selling too the price decreases gradually. This is just to give a perfect meaning for the term halving. On halving it touches peak and settles at a value little low or high.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Junko on June 01, 2016, 07:21:00 PM
I imagine that for anyone who mines bitcoin that the halving(s) matter very much.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Superways on June 01, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Yeah, the halving matter for the good value of bitcoin, it is because of halving a large number of people adopted bitcoin and those people who do not have knowledge about bitcoin and after hearing about bitcoin and its halving they started to learn about bitcoin and adopted it.
And you said that with halving the price will increase, I will say that a few months ago the price was at about $370 and now it is around $550 , is not that an increased price? the same will be continued and the price will increase in this way and everyone will be benefited as they are benefited now.



Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 01, 2016, 08:04:00 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

The price is less related to how many bitcoins are "alive" but is directly related to how many bitcoins are being traded. The thesis on the pumpers is that miners sell their coins immediately to fund the cost of mining. If mining income is halved, that decreases the amount of coins newly coming on to the market to trade, and less supply leads to higher price. I'm not agreeing with that argument, I'm just stating it, as it's more nuanced than you allowed for.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 01, 2016, 08:08:53 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

Waiting for the price to increase after the halving doesn't make much sense. Markets are forward-looking, so by the time the halving occurs, the expected rise attributable to the halving should have already taken place. (At least, in a rational and liquid market, which bitcoin is more than it isn't.) Also consider that the price has more than doubled since last August, and perhaps the effect of the halving has already run its course. People expecting a sudden double are delusional. But we've had more than a double in less than a year, all while speculation about what the halving is supposed to do to the price grows. Perhaps the double everyone is looking for has already happened.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: angaper on June 01, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Blitzcranky on June 06, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
It depends on the person and what you want to do with your Bitcoins. If you want to buy some coins then the halving can bey key for you because the value can go down so you can buy more coins then before.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: MWesterweele on June 08, 2016, 06:12:14 AM
I agree with you dude.Bitcoins price will surely rise this halving 2016 but not like what happend last bitcoin halving.Because of you said about bitcoin cap, 6 Million bitcoins is jus small amounts for the biggest bitcoin miners online now that will not take 3 years or more to mine that remaining bitcoins.But lets all hope for this halving that be a succesful and historical halving again


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Karartma1 on June 08, 2016, 06:24:41 AM
We already have have around 16 million coins and this means that with the new block reward corresponding to 12.5 btc we are not going to see that many new coins generated like it is right now. There's a chance mining will become completely unprofitable unless certain conditions will take place (i.e. a higher BTC price).
This was clear since the beginning because all these halvings are set in stone in the protocol.
I personally feel BTC should be valued more than today. But that remains to be seen


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: hasiramasenju on June 09, 2016, 09:30:58 AM
your predictions for number 1 will be correct because most people has waiting the prices increase after halving even there is no guarantee the prices will rise up and i do believe some people still hold their bitcoins because hoping that could earn very much profit
and number 3 also i think this is will be come true especially if the price rise up with very fast i'm pretty sure panic selling will be happen here



Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: martinacar on June 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
I think that it will depend on the person some people might find it good and some not. I does not really matter to me, as long as I can make money with it I am happy with everything that is happening.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: alyssa85 on June 09, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
The price increase has already happened, bitcoin has increased 155% this year. The question is when people will start taking profits. If it happens quickly it will tank the price, if it is slow and measured, we might stay at this level for a while and consolidate.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 10, 2016, 07:04:08 PM
We already have have around 16 million coins and this means that with the new block reward corresponding to 12.5 btc we are not going to see that many new coins generated like it is right now. There's a chance mining will become completely unprofitable unless certain conditions will take place (i.e. a higher BTC price).
This was clear since the beginning because all these halvings are set in stone in the protocol.
I personally feel BTC should be valued more than today. But that remains to be seen

12.5 coins per block is still a lot of new coins every day. It is half the current rate of inflation, but 12.5 coins every ten minutes figures out to 1,800 new coins a day, or about a million dollars worth at current prices. That's not an insignificant amount. Mining could very well become unprofitable, but this is a self-correcting mechanism - difficulty will fall to the point it is again for those who remain, but with a lot of idle CPU power, the profit margin is always going to be razor thin, because one person's profit margin is another person's opportunity to steal it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 10, 2016, 07:08:59 PM
The price increase has already happened, bitcoin has increased 155% this year. The question is when people will start taking profits. If it happens quickly it will tank the price, if it is slow and measured, we might stay at this level for a while and consolidate.

Yes thank you! I have been saying this for so long. People seem to think that the price will still double, or that if they don't see it double all at the same time, it doesn't count. The fact is, bitcoin has already more than doubled in the past year, so if 1) we conclude that the halving will double price (by no means an acceptable given), then 2) we also have to allow for the possibility that the double already happened.

Either of these on their own raises enough uncertainty about buying now because of the halving, but together... people buying on the thesis that the halving means easy profit is taking on far more risk than they think they are.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Mvaporis1961 on June 11, 2016, 12:12:55 AM
Yes especially to those miner of bitcoin because i think that there is a possibility that they will stop if the mining difficulty was high and if they think that mining bitcoin will not be profitable anymore.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: angaper on June 11, 2016, 12:28:59 AM
Actually I don't think the next halving should have drastic repercussions in the bitcoin economy because at this moment it is enough mature to assimilate this event well. Additionally this event has been largely announced and all that people that could be affected, they have already taken all the necessary measures to face this halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Arrakeen on June 11, 2016, 12:40:42 AM
If nothing else, all the hype will cause word of mouth to attract new interest and investors.  Price could be affected, depending on how many people buy in with large amounts of fiat.  Regardless, the only smart option for holders is to keep holding  :P


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Cybertron00 on June 11, 2016, 01:30:52 AM
I agree with you dude.Bitcoins price will surely rise this halving 2016 but not like what happend last bitcoin halving.Because of you said about bitcoin cap, 6 Million bitcoins is jus small amounts for the biggest bitcoin miners online now that will not take 3 years or more to mine that remaining bitcoins.But lets all hope for this halving that be a succesful and historical halving again
I agree with you bro. Its just my prediction but it might happen.
My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase that will be caused by halving
2. Price increase happened
3. Everyone selling bitcoin
4. some ppl waiting to buy bitcoin at a low price
5. Bitcoin back to the normal price  ;D But it will probably rise again


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 13, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
Look at all the people buying in to the current bubble. Why are they buying? To make a profit. So how do they get their profit? They have to sell. And once the momentum turns to selling in a big way, it will cascade upon itself and make the drop even steeper. All the people buying in right now will rush to get out to preserve their profit, or to keep from losing their initial investment. I don't see anyway the current price holds up after the halving with everyone in a panic over how fast the price will drop.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Vikingr on June 13, 2016, 06:38:38 PM
I think after this halving we should have to work for the stability of bitcoin and not for the pumps and dumps, as with that more people will believe on it and more businesses will be started with bitcoin payment system so bitcoin will flourish and will become an established global currency.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: BitcoinPaw on June 13, 2016, 10:23:18 PM
I think that halving is really matter for everybody who interested or linked with bitcoin, price nowdays is $700 and it's really just unbelievable!


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 14, 2016, 04:22:10 AM
Every halving gives more opportunity for the investors so it would matter as the price will increase again and we will witness the bitcoins to go to the moon that time.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Belligerent Fool on June 14, 2016, 06:56:02 AM
Just wait till the new even more energy efficient ASIC miners get released, 30% of the total network hashrate popped up on the network in the last 3-4 weeks, now you tell me what could that be ?

100TH+ Energy efficient miners coming out ?

If that's the case bitcoin will eventually recede in price to a slow dwindle just like halving beforehand, everyone got scared then bitmain released their updated hardware so everyone sold their BTC so they could buy them, history will repeat itself otherwise mining for years with the same hardware would be pointless to Hardware companies wanting to make profit from their devices.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: GermanFoobla on June 14, 2016, 07:20:08 AM
no it does not matter really much because it only affects the miners so i dont think you have to be scared that the price will drop cause of this so i dont think the halving really affect.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: praprata on June 14, 2016, 08:33:11 AM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Maslate on June 14, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
Yeah man! as long as the coming next halving would bring improvement on the current situation of bitcoins. If the the price increase again then we should be thankful then as we will be enjoying the rewards of keeping our coins. Only the weak hands will dump their coins when price go up.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on June 14, 2016, 02:16:23 PM
yes. after halving my bitcoin prices are expected to rise very high. Now the movement is so positive and future bitcoin bitcoin movement will be fantastic.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: WEBcreator on June 14, 2016, 03:27:19 PM
yes. after halving my bitcoin prices are expected to rise very high. Now the movement is so positive and future bitcoin bitcoin movement will be fantastic.

totally wrong because when we are getting to the halving, people will start on dumping. The price will only increase prior to that we are getting halving not exactly after the halving, given that people still believe with the hype otherwise it wont increase any further. As of now, the price is starting to be lowered


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: pitham1 on June 14, 2016, 03:29:56 PM
yes. after halving my bitcoin prices are expected to rise very high. Now the movement is so positive and future bitcoin bitcoin movement will be fantastic.

Who is gonna keep buying at those high prices you expected?
Every Tom, Dick and Harry has already purchased bitcoins with all their spare cash.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: shane on June 14, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
it is true, everyone is waiting for halving, then the price increases before halving, then why after halving the price increase? I think it will be a dump. and perhaps there will be panic also to sell when it

Yes I think price will decrease after the halving, as many people will sell their coins at the time of halving when they see higher price and it may result in decline in price.

Even if there is not much of bitcoin selling too the price decreases gradually. This is just to give a perfect meaning for the term halving. On halving it touches peak and settles at a value little low or high.

I think the price peak will occur when some days very close to halving. but it is difficult to predict what will happen after halving, whether it will continue in the pump? dump? or will be stable.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: WEBcreator on June 14, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Who is gonna keep buying at those high prices you expected?
Every Tom, Dick and Harry has already purchased bitcoins with all their spare cash.

You do realize that the number of people in this world that actually aware of bitcoin is actually less than 1 % of the whole world population isnt it? when it gets to higher prize alot more people will be aware of it and there will be another person that jump into the rocket to the moon ( which I hope to be happening exactly a week before halving )


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: helloeverybody on June 14, 2016, 03:47:40 PM
Even if the price drops down to 500 dollars or lower id be quite happy, Id still hold onto all my bitcoins in the hope that over the years they would mature and be worth a bit more than what i paid for them. For me bitcoin is still the gold of the crypto world.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Superways on June 14, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
Yeah man! as long as the coming next halving would bring improvement on the current situation of bitcoins. If the the price increase again then we should be thankful then as we will be enjoying the rewards of keeping our coins. Only the weak hands will dump their coins when price go up.

and along with weak people there are some people who have got loans from their friends and from their relatives so they will also wait for the price to go higer and will sell their coins so that they pay their loan and will get their profit out of them.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: upsidedown75 on June 15, 2016, 12:59:23 PM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
Yeah man! as long as the coming next halving would bring improvement on the current situation of bitcoins. If the the price increase again then we should be thankful then as we will be enjoying the rewards of keeping our coins. Only the weak hands will dump their coins when price go up.
You are true those people who need their money and who have bought their coins hardly will sell their coins and will use them in their normal way, but those people who have a lot of money or who have a good income will keep their coins for more longer and will get the benefit till the end.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 16, 2016, 05:54:23 AM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
Yeah man! as long as the coming next halving would bring improvement on the current situation of bitcoins. If the the price increase again then we should be thankful then as we will be enjoying the rewards of keeping our coins. Only the weak hands will dump their coins when price go up.
You are true those people who need their money and who have bought their coins hardly will sell their coins and will use them in their normal way, but those people who have a lot of money or who have a good income will keep their coins for more longer and will get the benefit till the end.
Exactly, only the weak hands will sell their bitcoins and when the price is really high they can easily be tempted. The clever investors will not dump and just keep their money until they can reach their ultimate goal with bitcoins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: newcoins1978 on June 16, 2016, 01:54:13 PM
To be honest the havling does not really matter to me, if the price goes down then I think that I am going to invest more in Bitcoin. If the price goes up then I am going to wait for the price to keep rising. If it is stable then you will have no other option then to wait for it to be over.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Barnabe on June 16, 2016, 01:57:59 PM
I don't know why people believe that bitcoin value will lower because of the halving...
Supply will be lower from that point, at best value should maintain, but not lower.

What is the logic ?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: SquallLeonhart on June 16, 2016, 02:16:09 PM
To be honest the havling does not really matter to me, if the price goes down then I think that I am going to invest more in Bitcoin. If the price goes up then I am going to wait for the price to keep rising. If it is stable then you will have no other option then to wait for it to be over.

I don't think price will fall at halving, in fact price will be much higher at the time of halving and even after that, and halving is important for all of us to make profits.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: nizamcc on June 16, 2016, 02:32:39 PM
To be honest the havling does not really matter to me, if the price goes down then I think that I am going to invest more in Bitcoin. If the price goes up then I am going to wait for the price to keep rising. If it is stable then you will have no other option then to wait for it to be over.

I don't think price will fall at halving, in fact price will be much higher at the time of halving and even after that, and halving is important for all of us to make profits.

Like you, I think the same. Price won't fall by any means, and it is absolutely an important part as prices will hike just because of halving, so why people think that halving doesn't matter?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Adrorecia on June 16, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
First I thought it was really big and that it matter but the price is now already pretty high so I think its honestly not mattering anymore so hard.
Of course we have to see this to get this confirmed but that is my opinion right now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: extrabyte on June 16, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
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So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

My opinion for the next halving is that it does matter too much because we can see its affect now where the price increased from 400s to 700s which is ~40%. This positive thing is not going to stop and it's going great, all charts are Green :)


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Barnabe on June 16, 2016, 05:25:40 PM
First I thought it was really big and that it matter but the price is now already pretty high so I think its honestly not mattering anymore so hard.
Of course we have to see this to get this confirmed but that is my opinion right now.
That's what everyone is telling about bitcoin for years. Bitcoin price fluctuates and changes each day but in long term it has been very bullish. If people hear about the halving their might be interested in buying them causing a rise in price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Supercrypt on June 17, 2016, 05:56:05 AM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
I think you do not have bitcoins in your wallet that is why you do not care and the halving do not affect you and your finance, while those people who have collected a lot of bitcoins, for them halving really matters as they are waiting for halving from about more than six hours.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: fearlesscat10 on June 17, 2016, 06:13:21 AM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
I think you do not have bitcoins in your wallet that is why you do not care and the halving do not affect you and your finance, while those people who have collected a lot of bitcoins, for them halving really matters as they are waiting for halving from about more than six hours.

Yes, halving really matters. It one of the chances that long term holders have to make a profit. I mean, it does only come every four years.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Jmild1 on June 17, 2016, 06:48:45 AM
I can't imagine a "panic" scenario at any time. Actually there are no justified reasons to think so, and many people are getting the idea of it; perhaps when the time of halving comes the market had taken an anticipated position, pricing in the bitcoin with anticipation.
For me it does not really matter if the halving is coming the it is coming and there is nothing that I can do to change that. I will just have to live with it and keep going on with Bitcoin.
I think you do not have bitcoins in your wallet that is why you do not care and the halving do not affect you and your finance, while those people who have collected a lot of bitcoins, for them halving really matters as they are waiting for halving from about more than six hours.
If someone disagree on your point of view that doesnt mean he doesnt have any bitcoin in him, maybe he has any good reason thats why he think bitcoins price doesnt affect him much.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: iv4n on June 17, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
That is visible in price movement this weeks. The halving is important thing as we all can see, and what will happen after is really hard to predict. Last time peak was at 1200 $, and after that we saw btc at 200 $. So can we expect new record in price this time? I think yes, million dollar question is how high can btc go in next few months.

After that we can expect price to drop and stabilize. I don't expect panic in any case, people will try to earn from this rise. Smart people will wait and sell on some high price and after drop they will buy coins again. Its a circle, we earn from this so I don't think something big will change.



Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: prtty2gal2 on June 17, 2016, 02:55:18 PM
no it does not matter really much because it only affects the miners so i dont think you have to be scared that the price will drop cause of this so i dont think the halving really affect.
If the previous halving matter a lot, then I think the next halving will also matter much for the people , as everyone know better that the price will increase in the halving and everyone comes to adopt bitcoin so as to earn bigger amount.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mark coins on June 17, 2016, 03:08:52 PM
no it does not matter really much because it only affects the miners so i dont think you have to be scared that the price will drop cause of this so i dont think the halving really affect.
If the previous halving matter a lot, then I think the next halving will also matter much for the people , as everyone know better that the price will increase in the halving and everyone comes to adopt bitcoin so as to earn bigger amount.

This halving is really important in deciding the future of bitcoin as if price will go high then it will attract more users and investors to join the bitcoin world in future.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 21, 2016, 02:45:55 AM
no it does not matter really much because it only affects the miners so i dont think you have to be scared that the price will drop cause of this so i dont think the halving really affect.
If the previous halving matter a lot, then I think the next halving will also matter much for the people , as everyone know better that the price will increase in the halving and everyone comes to adopt bitcoin so as to earn bigger amount.

This halving is really important in deciding the future of bitcoin as if price will go high then it will attract more users and investors to join the bitcoin world in future.
For me, I would not after if the price would go high because I have already earn with the current price. The thing is the halving will give the miners a difficulty but with a good price they will survive to pay their mining expenses. As long as the price remains steady it will already attract more users and the best users to attract are the spenders not the investors in order to stabilize the price that would lead more businesses to adopt.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Ulloa on June 21, 2016, 08:29:20 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Maslate on June 24, 2016, 02:36:01 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on June 24, 2016, 02:51:35 AM
all the halvings are so important because they are reducing the block reward which is a big amount of money.

so each time it halves, it means there will be less new coins being created and also less new coins to be dumped.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 24, 2016, 07:36:05 AM
all the halvings are so important because they are reducing the block reward which is a big amount of money.

so each time it halves, it means there will be less new coins being created and also less new coins to be dumped.
Halving will make the price great if the number of adopters will also increase, the number of users is very important to maintain and even make the price increase and this will give the miners a win win solution on operating profitably.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: tampazeus on June 24, 2016, 07:45:00 AM
all the halvings are so important because they are reducing the block reward which is a big amount of money.

so each time it halves, it means there will be less new coins being created and also less new coins to be dumped.
Halving will make the price great if the number of adopters will also increase, the number of users is very important to maintain and even make the price increase and this will give the miners a win win solution on operating profitably.

Yeah and halving really matters to each and every user of bitcoin, as everyone is hoping to see higher price at halving so that they can sell their coins and generate profits from it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Jmild1 on June 24, 2016, 08:03:47 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.
Mining will not get more difficult, the halving will just make the miners fee cut into half. It is not the mining that will get more difficult but the bitcoin that you will get on your fee.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 25, 2016, 03:59:19 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.
Mining will not get more difficult, the halving will just make the miners fee cut into half. It is not the mining that will get more difficult but the bitcoin that you will get on your fee.
Well nice explanation man. I think that the next halving really matters. It matters because it only occurs once every 4 years.
The halving will give difficulty to the miners if and only when the price does not react accordingly, imagine if the price will be very low and the electricity expenses and the equipment used is too expensive, how can they sustain the business and they are not foolish to operate even they are losing.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Babayega31 on June 25, 2016, 05:48:25 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.
Mining will not get more difficult, the halving will just make the miners fee cut into half. It is not the mining that will get more difficult but the bitcoin that you will get on your fee.
Well nice explanation man. I think that the next halving really matters. It matters because it only occurs once every 4 years.

 The next halving will really matters because more people will be more aware by the time if it will occur again, and surely with that mining hardwares will be disposed by the owners at the time halving will come because the more bigger difficulty will be happen at that time.
And also people will load some bullets so they can save for the
 next halving because this halving happening today raise awareness that halving can be profitable and worth to wait.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 27, 2016, 04:58:12 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.
Mining will not get more difficult, the halving will just make the miners fee cut into half. It is not the mining that will get more difficult but the bitcoin that you will get on your fee.
Well nice explanation man. I think that the next halving really matters. It matters because it only occurs once every 4 years.

 The next halving will really matters because more people will be more aware by the time if it will occur again, and surely with that mining hardwares will be disposed by the owners at the time halving will come because the more bigger difficulty will be happen at that time.
And also people will load some bullets so they can save for the
 next halving because this halving happening today raise awareness that halving can be profitable and worth to wait.
Every halving is an opportunity, an opportunity to earn in a short period of time, so basically halving is important. It makes the price increase and when you know hot to ride with it you will grow as the price grow.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: MaritiJames3 on June 27, 2016, 02:18:47 PM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
It was important for the people that where mining allot now it does not makes much sense anymore to try and mine coins. It now has gotten allot harder to earn Bitcoins.
I did not really matter to me, I am just buying and selling coins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Galiatram on June 27, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
The halving does not really matter to people who are just buying bitcoins and selling them because the halbing only affects people who are interested into the mining of coins.
So if you are afraid of a drop dont be because it wont affect the price people.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Altcoinmoney on June 27, 2016, 02:55:35 PM
For the last time people dont be to scared because you wont feel anything or see anything after the halving.
Only for the people who are mining allot will feel it because they are mining for nothing anymore becasue it takes twice times longer.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Jmild1 on June 27, 2016, 03:10:25 PM
The halving does not really matter to people who are just buying bitcoins and selling them because the halbing only affects people who are interested into the mining of coins.
So if you are afraid of a drop dont be because it wont affect the price people.
Halving is really focus to miners because they are the one who really feel and get affected for this coming event. Many miners might quit and others will shift to other altcoin to mine. If this will happen there will be a short supply in bitcoin and this might affect the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Blackmet on June 27, 2016, 04:41:57 PM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: romero121 on June 27, 2016, 05:34:24 PM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.

Next halving really matters, because from that only we can conclude how the price increases. Also whether the price looks to be stable around 4digit value.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Barbut on June 27, 2016, 05:45:40 PM
Halving, prize for solving block will be cut on half, so after halving 12.5 btc will be prize for that. So you see this 4 years every block was 25, so we can expect much less bitcoins to come. And for 4 years we there will be new halving and another cutting.
If people who mine btc don`t have profit they will stop mining btc, simply. So economy say if you cut income price needs to jump, like minimum double  . In this period its important price to rise, and to make miners stay here and do their work, which is very important for btc. Without miners there is no network. I believe everything will be ok, and price will be enough high to satisfy their and our needs. So lets hope for the best!


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 27, 2016, 08:34:51 PM
I think after this halving we should have to work for the stability of bitcoin and not for the pumps and dumps, as with that more people will believe on it and more businesses will be started with bitcoin payment system so bitcoin will flourish and will become an established global currency.

Why would you wait until after the halving to start to work towards a stable value for bitcoin? That seems arbitrary to be interested in stability at some time in the future, but not right now... Also, how would you even accomplish such a thing? The price is where supply meets demand, and it is purely a free-market phenomenon.  I can't even think of a way the price could be pegged to anything for stability, because the ability to set the price necessitates a level of control that bitcoin was built specifically to prevent.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on June 27, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
Halving, prize for solving block will be cut on half, so after halving 12.5 btc will be prize for that. So you see this 4 years every block was 25, so we can expect much less bitcoins to come. And for 4 years we there will be new halving and another cutting.
If people who mine btc don`t have profit they will stop mining btc, simply. So economy say if you cut income price needs to jump, like minimum double  . In this period its important price to rise, and to make miners stay here and do their work, which is very important for btc. Without miners there is no network. I believe everything will be ok, and price will be enough high to satisfy their and our needs. So lets hope for the best!

You left out the other half of the equation: If people who mine btc don't make a profit, they will stop mining, and the difficulty will fall for everyone else who is still mining, and thereby make it more profitable to mine. The system should reach an equilibrium again. The halving by no means necessitates a doubling of price because there are more than two variables at play, and the other variables will also be affected.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 28, 2016, 02:55:57 AM
Halving, prize for solving block will be cut on half, so after halving 12.5 btc will be prize for that. So you see this 4 years every block was 25, so we can expect much less bitcoins to come. And for 4 years we there will be new halving and another cutting.
If people who mine btc don`t have profit they will stop mining btc, simply. So economy say if you cut income price needs to jump, like minimum double  . In this period its important price to rise, and to make miners stay here and do their work, which is very important for btc. Without miners there is no network. I believe everything will be ok, and price will be enough high to satisfy their and our needs. So lets hope for the best!

You left out the other half of the equation: If people who mine btc don't make a profit, they will stop mining, and the difficulty will fall for everyone else who is still mining, and thereby make it more profitable to mine. The system should reach an equilibrium again. The halving by no means necessitates a doubling of price because there are more than two variables at play, and the other variables will also be affected.
Exactly, that is halving for me is an opportunity because it will not happen that the price will drop, as member of the community, we are divided with different interest in bitcoin, there are those miners, investors, traders, and those who are spenders using the system for their benefits, we should only make a good community if all the interest will be serve with benefits.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Mvaporis1961 on June 28, 2016, 05:07:03 AM
Halving, prize for solving block will be cut on half, so after halving 12.5 btc will be prize for that. So you see this 4 years every block was 25, so we can expect much less bitcoins to come. And for 4 years we there will be new halving and another cutting.
If people who mine btc don`t have profit they will stop mining btc, simply. So economy say if you cut income price needs to jump, like minimum double  . In this period its important price to rise, and to make miners stay here and do their work, which is very important for btc. Without miners there is no network. I believe everything will be ok, and price will be enough high to satisfy their and our needs. So lets hope for the best!

You left out the other half of the equation: If people who mine btc don't make a profit, they will stop mining, and the difficulty will fall for everyone else who is still mining, and thereby make it more profitable to mine. The system should reach an equilibrium again. The halving by no means necessitates a doubling of price because there are more than two variables at play, and the other variables will also be affected.
Exactly, that is halving for me is an opportunity because it will not happen that the price will drop, as member of the community, we are divided with different interest in bitcoin, there are those miners, investors, traders, and those who are spenders using the system for their benefits, we should only make a good community if all the interest will be serve with benefits.
You can't be sure that the price drop will not happen because you don't have control for all bitcoin users. IMO many users will sell bitcoin after bitcoin halving because i think the price will exceeds $800 per piece so i think it will be enough for them to secure their profits and sell all their coins. That is my opinion but we need to be smart on selling our bitcoin especially after halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jerowacik on June 28, 2016, 05:18:04 AM
yes halving is the time when miners fee will be missing half. in this case the supply bitcoin will be reduced in all the time, so it is expected that prices will be rising very high bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on June 29, 2016, 05:07:45 AM
yes halving is the time when miners fee will be missing half. in this case the supply bitcoin will be reduced in all the time, so it is expected that prices will be rising very high bitcoin.
That should happen, otherwise the miners will operating in a lose. The most important in this halving is to give the miners a good amount of rewards and it will only happen if the price will increase, since we are just an investors we have to ride with this belief.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Sled on June 29, 2016, 06:10:23 AM
yes halving is the time when miners fee will be missing half. in this case the supply bitcoin will be reduced in all the time, so it is expected that prices will be rising very high bitcoin.
I think even though halving can make the price very high, it will fall down again because i think that after halving many users will sell their coins because as you said that you expected that the price after halving will rise for a very high price so it can cause panic sell which can result for fall down for the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: quentincole32 on June 29, 2016, 07:33:11 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?
i never bitcoin halving before,just guessing what will happen on next month,but i agree with this two things :
Quote
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
for me its being really matter,just because i never meet halving,and so far the biggest price reach $700 last month,wish next month up to $1000 after halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 11, 2016, 08:33:41 AM
In this halving, 75% of the coins have already been mined. So the effect of the halving is less than 4 years ago.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Xester on July 11, 2016, 08:56:03 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

Halving is already finished but there are no panic selling but the price remains the same. But it is true that people expect a price increase during halving since it happened last halving but it did not today. This time the price of bitcoin will remind all bitcoin users that halving has no control or the primary cause of price inflation. So next halving we are already aware that halving is not equal s to price increase.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on July 11, 2016, 09:07:53 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

Halving is already finished but there are no panic selling but the price remains the same. But it is true that people expect a price increase during halving since it happened last halving but it did not today. This time the price of bitcoin will remind all bitcoin users that halving has no control or the primary cause of price inflation. So next halving we are already aware that halving is not equal s to price increase.

The price more than doubled (almost tripled) between August of last year and the halving. Whether or not you want to attribute that price increase specifically to the halving is an issue to be determined, but it seems likely that it is. If you were waiting for the price to double after the halving, you don't understand that markets are forward-looking and people anticipate and make moves to profit ahead of an event like the halving, not after. Whether or not the price sticks at this level is another issue. It could be that the price doubled as a self-fulfilling prophecy, simply because every believed it would. This price level has to hold up to the new economics of the mining now, and it will likely not be known quickly how that shakes out. It may take several months before we know if the halved rewards are forcing miners out of the mining market, and what affect that will have on the price of btc.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 12, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

Halving is already finished but there are no panic selling but the price remains the same. But it is true that people expect a price increase during halving since it happened last halving but it did not today. This time the price of bitcoin will remind all bitcoin users that halving has no control or the primary cause of price inflation. So next halving we are already aware that halving is not equal s to price increase.

The price more than doubled (almost tripled) between August of last year and the halving. Whether or not you want to attribute that price increase specifically to the halving is an issue to be determined, but it seems likely that it is. If you were waiting for the price to double after the halving, you don't understand that markets are forward-looking and people anticipate and make moves to profit ahead of an event like the halving, not after. Whether or not the price sticks at this level is another issue. It could be that the price doubled as a self-fulfilling prophecy, simply because every believed it would. This price level has to hold up to the new economics of the mining now, and it will likely not be known quickly how that shakes out. It may take several months before we know if the halved rewards are forcing miners out of the mining market, and what affect that will have on the price of btc.

That is right. I think the price has already risen a lot. It should have a rest. Otherwise a bubble is forming.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: coin_gambler on July 12, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
yes halving is the time when miners fee will be missing half. in this case the supply bitcoin will be reduced in all the time, so it is expected that prices will be rising very high bitcoin.
and the price will surely grow, in my opinion its the matter of time only and i think that we will reach a new all time high pretty soon so halving really matters a lot in my opinion


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: universe_ on July 12, 2016, 08:53:23 PM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.
im pretty sure that the price is going to grow only after a decent amount of time like a month after the halving, as the halving has already passed and we still dont see any increases


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 14, 2016, 05:43:03 AM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.
im pretty sure that the price is going to grow only after a decent amount of time like a month after the halving, as the halving has already passed and we still dont see any increases
That is going to happen but we have to wait to see it as the price will only go to one direction overtime as the demand will increase with major improvement in the volume of users, the halving is good that it happened this year because it makes the current price to be strong.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 14, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.
im pretty sure that the price is going to grow only after a decent amount of time like a month after the halving, as the halving has already passed and we still dont see any increases
That is going to happen but we have to wait to see it as the price will only go to one direction overtime as the demand will increase with major improvement in the volume of users, the halving is good that it happened this year because it makes the current price to be strong.

The next halving will not matter as much as the last two. There will be more bitcoin in circulation then.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Doamader on July 14, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
I think that nothing will change majorly, price will start rising in 20 days before halving, and againe many miners will lose a lot of money and maybe even work.
im pretty sure that the price is going to grow only after a decent amount of time like a month after the halving, as the halving has already passed and we still dont see any increases
That is going to happen but we have to wait to see it as the price will only go to one direction overtime as the demand will increase with major improvement in the volume of users, the halving is good that it happened this year because it makes the current price to be strong.

The next halving will not matter as much as the last two. There will be more bitcoin in circulation then.
At all the halving moment the only thing that happen is people stop investments for a while, this happen at the networks ads, people wait to see the new value and then restart promoting their business. The next halving now, will take some years, and sure will make more pression into the price once again but a long a far road to cover now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: n691309 on July 14, 2016, 02:43:43 PM
The next halving is going to happen after 4 years from now and I think until then many good things will happen hopefully. The recent halving was not enough to increase the price maybe because its holiday season now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: hawkins on July 14, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
yes, it's really important. I think it will make bitcoin prices higher. but, we do not know when halving the next one will happen. but it will be the determinant of bitcoin prices will be higher or not. Well we can only hope the price of bitcoin will penetrate the $ 1000 price when halving the next one occurs


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 14, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
The next halving in 4 years will not matter much, as there will a lot more bitcoins in the circulation.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: pooya87 on July 15, 2016, 04:34:42 AM
all the halvings matter so much, because they are cutting the rate of supply creation in half and that is a huge change especially because the reward of the blocks is very big the half of it is also big (it cut the reward by 12.5BTC which is ~$8000 reduction) so that is a big change.

also halving always brings a certain amount of hype with itself which is always good for increasing the price to the moon and this rise always brings a lot of publicity to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 15, 2016, 04:43:59 AM
The next halving in 4 years will not matter much, as there will a lot more bitcoins in the circulation.
For me it matters because I believe that every halving will make the price increase and that is a good opportunity for the investors, we don't know yet that in the coming years we will achieve increase in adoption although the trend is telling us that it would happen.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: arwin100 on July 15, 2016, 05:02:37 AM
The next halving in 4 years will not matter much, as there will a lot more bitcoins in the circulation.
For me it matters because I believe that every halving will make the price increase and that is a good opportunity for the investors, we don't know yet that in the coming years we will achieve increase in adoption although the trend is telling us that it would happen.


It matter so much, and next halving well be the greatest year to be happen in next 4 years because the halving today rise some awareness that this event can make people get profit if they are staking or holding there bitcoins at that said event and im very sure that because of halving today many would prepare and stock the coins they have and earn plenty for the next halving year.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: a7mos on July 15, 2016, 05:06:05 AM
All halving events matter mainly for the miners because the main impact happen to them. Some people made a link between halving and the price although it does not work like that. Without high demand and low supply , the price of btc won't go up


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Schuyler on July 15, 2016, 06:38:40 AM
All halving events matter mainly for the miners because the main impact happen to them. Some people made a link between halving and the price although it does not work like that. Without high demand and low supply , the price of btc won't go up
There are several different factors that affect the bitcoin price, and I believe that halving is one of them. It is just that is not the one that would affect it the most. I'm pretty sure we are going to see some price movement as the months post halving counts up.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: madwica on July 15, 2016, 06:56:35 AM
For me all the halving has a big effect in the price of the bitcoin the effect is always favored to the investors that is why i think the next halving is really matter to us specially who have more bitcoin in their wallet the profit will rain to them


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Jmild1 on July 15, 2016, 03:33:38 PM
For me all the halving has a big effect in the price of the bitcoin the effect is always favored to the investors that is why i think the next halving is really matter to us specially who have more bitcoin in their wallet the profit will rain to them
It's ridiculous because the halving that passed doesn't affect the price that much. Where did you get the idea that the halving will always affect the price. Halving has no assurance that will affect the price because the halving didn't represent the price in the first place. It represents the fee of the miners so the one that get affected is the miners not the bitcoin's price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Mauser on July 15, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
For me all the halving has a big effect in the price of the bitcoin the effect is always favored to the investors that is why i think the next halving is really matter to us specially who have more bitcoin in their wallet the profit will rain to them

The halving this months had almost no Impact in the Bitcoin Price, still around ~650 as the week before the halving. Maybe the Change is still coming.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: MingLee on July 15, 2016, 03:49:07 PM
The last halving we just had a few days ago matters, the next halving matters, and the next two halvings matter, but after that it starts to get a bit too mundane and it doesn't start to really matter once the block rewards starts getting to the ~1.5 level, which will either completely jack up the value, or will result in us having to put in higher fees in order to pay for everything the miners have to maintain.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: panju1 on July 16, 2016, 03:33:59 AM
The last halving we just had a few days ago matters, the next halving matters, and the next two halvings matter, but after that it starts to get a bit too mundane and it doesn't start to really matter once the block rewards starts getting to the ~1.5 level, which will either completely jack up the value, or will result in us having to put in higher fees in order to pay for everything the miners have to maintain.

Fees are not directly linked to the block reward. If the value of bitcoins is high, then the decreased reward (in terms of bitcoin) won't matter to the miners. What is a more important determinant of transaction fees is the block size and related congestion.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 16, 2016, 07:06:23 AM
The last halving we just had a few days ago matters, the next halving matters, and the next two halvings matter, but after that it starts to get a bit too mundane and it doesn't start to really matter once the block rewards starts getting to the ~1.5 level, which will either completely jack up the value, or will result in us having to put in higher fees in order to pay for everything the miners have to maintain.

Fees are not directly linked to the block reward. If the value of bitcoins is high, then the decreased reward (in terms of bitcoin) won't matter to the miners. What is a more important determinant of transaction fees is the block size and related congestion.
Halving should make the price increase because every time halving happens it always increases the difficulty of mining and that would mean that the expenses of the miners also increases so they need to stay profitable for the healthy community.

Miners are important to us in order to fast tract our transactions online and to promote bitcoin in the majority of people where they can get good benefits.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 16, 2016, 07:11:37 AM

Halving should make the price increase because every time halving happens it always increases the difficulty of mining and that would mean that the expenses of the miners also increases so they need to stay profitable for the healthy community.

Miners are important to us in order to fast tract our transactions online and to promote bitcoin in the majority of people where they can get good benefits.

Yes. But the effect of halving will reduce in the next few halvings. The number of existing coins are much higher.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: pitham1 on July 17, 2016, 02:46:20 AM
The last halving we just had a few days ago matters, the next halving matters, and the next two halvings matter, but after that it starts to get a bit too mundane and it doesn't start to really matter once the block rewards starts getting to the ~1.5 level, which will either completely jack up the value, or will result in us having to put in higher fees in order to pay for everything the miners have to maintain.

Fees are not directly linked to the block reward. If the value of bitcoins is high, then the decreased reward (in terms of bitcoin) won't matter to the miners. What is a more important determinant of transaction fees is the block size and related congestion.
Halving should make the price increase because every time halving happens it always increases the difficulty of mining and that would mean that the expenses of the miners also increases so they need to stay profitable for the healthy community.

Miners are important to us in order to fast tract our transactions online and to promote bitcoin in the majority of people where they can get good benefits.

Why should halving increase the difficulty? There is no direct correlation. If anything, if some miners shut down because of the lower block reward, the difficulty should decrease.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Dudeperfect on July 17, 2016, 06:10:23 AM
Considering the grounds of after halving period, I honestly think that halving has long term effects and we cannot see it with sharp ups and downs on price chart. We might see some huge fluctuations in price but on a larger timeline (whole year of 2017), and from the end of the year 2017 we will see a sustainable growth irrespective of fiat currencies, market crash and all other things. If someone is waiting to jump in bitcoin, he will get chance in next year during price fluctuations. A systematic investment plan would be perfect to enjoy short term effects of halving (short term price fluctuations).


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 17, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
Why should halving increase the difficulty? There is no direct correlation. If anything, if some miners shut down because of the lower block reward, the difficulty should decrease.

The halving will not increase the difficulty. If it does not effect, it will decrease the difficulty as some miners will shut off.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 17, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
Why should halving increase the difficulty? There is no direct correlation. If anything, if some miners shut down because of the lower block reward, the difficulty should decrease.

The halving will not increase the difficulty. If it does not effect, it will decrease the difficulty as some miners will shut off.

The bitcoin mining difficulty is predicted to drop around 0.5% in the next difficulty adjustment in a few days.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: wildan88 on July 17, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 18, 2016, 04:35:52 AM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 18, 2016, 09:41:53 AM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: BitcoinPC on July 20, 2016, 04:55:56 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinron. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?
Definitely, after the halving price will grew especially in the end of the year, hope so bitcoin will be above at $1000. And the next halving also have a great part for bitcoin price.
But may be during this period bitcoin would be down, and it is also a good chance to buy the bitcoins once again and the end of year bitcoin will grow up and it will be a time to sell your bitcoins once again and earning a good profit.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 21, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 22, 2016, 03:54:44 AM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.
I believe in the speculation that bitcoin will be more improve in the future, more improve in terms of users and volume of amount transacted online and the next halving will still matters because the price is going to increase every time there is halving and that is given especially when there is not crisis that is going to happen.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 23, 2016, 02:47:24 PM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.

The value of the bitcoin lies in its usage. So when more people use it, it will be useful and valuable.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 25, 2016, 05:38:49 AM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.

The value of the bitcoin lies in its usage. So when more people use it, it will be useful and valuable.
Since bitcoins is now valuable already, I can say that people are already using supporting it by using it. Bitcoins will be good in the future and even now, and I believe that overtime we will achieve a good number of adopters that will make the price eventually.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 25, 2016, 06:12:39 PM
Since bitcoins is now valuable already, I can say that people are already using supporting it by using it. Bitcoins will be good in the future and even now, and I believe that overtime we will achieve a good number of adopters that will make the price eventually.

It will just take some time for the bitcoin to be popular and more people will use it in the near future.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: HarryKPeters on July 25, 2016, 08:09:23 PM
Since bitcoins is now valuable already, I can say that people are already using supporting it by using it. Bitcoins will be good in the future and even now, and I believe that overtime we will achieve a good number of adopters that will make the price eventually.

It will just take some time for the bitcoin to be popular and more people will use it in the near future.

The halving seems to be almost a guarantee that the price will go up.
Good news generally don't bring bitcoin's price to go up.
Which means if you want a price pump, you need a halving, if not, it doesn't matter to the average user.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: techfm86 on July 25, 2016, 08:21:31 PM
The effect in the price occurs gradually, this time started months before the halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Taki on July 25, 2016, 08:29:56 PM
I didn't get what your prediction really is? Do you predict that it's gonna happen one by one or you predict first or next or third?
I am one of who is waiting bitcoin rising and if it will not happen - I'm not gonna be disappointed, I don't have even 1 bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Akupuniard on July 25, 2016, 11:50:44 PM
Yes, every halving happen cause someday every bitcoins will be mined and it will also become limited currency with high price, at my opinion every halving is a new step to new economy.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 26, 2016, 02:22:17 AM
Yes, every halving happen cause someday every bitcoins will be mined and it will also become limited currency with high price, at my opinion every halving is a new step to new economy.
And could be the new opportunity to earn money from your investment, every halving the difficulty of mining increases and that what makes the price to increase as well, just like what happen this year, although the effect of halving has not been felt yet but the price is really good now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mrhelpful on July 26, 2016, 03:12:13 AM
Since bitcoins is now valuable already, I can say that people are already using supporting it by using it. Bitcoins will be good in the future and even now, and I believe that overtime we will achieve a good number of adopters that will make the price eventually.

It will just take some time for the bitcoin to be popular and more people will use it in the near future.

Youre not factoring it took 5-6 years of pre development of a community lol.

Its going to take another couple years for everyones participation if done correctly to gain more new money flowing through traditional outlets.

If the etf`s actually pulls through.. and its been awhile too.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: redsun114 on July 26, 2016, 06:58:49 PM
Since bitcoins is now valuable already, I can say that people are already using supporting it by using it. Bitcoins will be good in the future and even now, and I believe that overtime we will achieve a good number of adopters that will make the price eventually.

It will just take some time for the bitcoin to be popular and more people will use it in the near future.
It already is popular, it's just that people like fiat currency more as there are many more businesses that accept fiat than BTC; it can only grow with time. There's always the price stability issue as well, but in truth any currency can lose value. It'll just be a few years, and provided Bitcoin doesn't lose too much value, we'll see many more people use BTC.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: rekinthis on July 26, 2016, 07:26:01 PM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.
well anything might happen with the price if there is no demand the price wont grow or it will go down, i would be really careful about it


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: funbarrel on July 26, 2016, 08:04:49 PM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.
thats true, i am not selling my bitcoins right now because i dont need any fiat, i hold only and expect to see higher prices to come in the upcoming month


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Jmild1 on July 26, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
prediction No. 1 and 2 right, but no 3 was wrong. to date no panic after the price does not increase. but chances are they would prefer to be patient and confident the price will increase. because the effect of halving will not happen immediately. at least until the end of the year we could see higher prices
I agree with you, I should wait for more months before I dump my bitcoins, I believe this year we can see a good price as the effect of halving and I would like also to see the price will continuously grow in the succeeding years. Maybe that could possibly happen as we are increase in number of volume in terms on users of bitcoins.

There is no need to dump your bitcoin if you do not need to use it to support your life. Just hold for the long term.

That is right. The bitcoin price will rise a lot in the next few decades after more and more people use it.
well anything might happen with the price if there is no demand the price wont grow or it will go down, i would be really careful about it

People won't say that the price will go up if they are not sure that demand won't increase. The time that people saying price will go up, it means they already knew that the demand will make a big jump too. So it means there's a fact behind those speculation they make.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: praprata on July 26, 2016, 09:23:11 PM
For me the halving seems to be a moment in time where the price needs to go up else miners will face financial problems.
The usual spirit is that the price and adoption depends on news.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: 1Referee on July 26, 2016, 09:58:41 PM
For me the halving seems to be a moment in time where the price needs to go up else miners will face financial problems.
The usual spirit is that the price and adoption depends on news.

Funny thing is that the price isn't reacting to good news anymore while the price goes down with the slightest form of news that a lot people see as bad news, while in fact it's not. Later once they start to realize it's not bad news at all, you see the price go up again. People somehow have a panic mechanism that takes over their state of mind in some occasions....


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mrhelpful on July 26, 2016, 10:17:42 PM
For me the halving seems to be a moment in time where the price needs to go up else miners will face financial problems.
The usual spirit is that the price and adoption depends on news.

Its more of market reactions then news.. since some news dont have effect on what people think but it does give it a chance to promote for price flux.

I mean you got different type of traders / investors so all the price flux though is usually caused by daytraders.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on July 28, 2016, 08:51:55 AM
For me the halving seems to be a moment in time where the price needs to go up else miners will face financial problems.
The usual spirit is that the price and adoption depends on news.

Funny thing is that the price isn't reacting to good news anymore while the price goes down with the slightest form of news that a lot people see as bad news, while in fact it's not. Later once they start to realize it's not bad news at all, you see the price go up again. People somehow have a panic mechanism that takes over their state of mind in some occasions....

People are concentrating their attention on the Ethereum. The trading volume of the Ethereum is very large.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: adibe on July 28, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
I think yes, the halving is really matter to bitcoin. It's make the price of bitcoins increase so high up to 60% and bitcoin become more popular and makes more people use bitcoin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Doamader on July 28, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
The next halving will take some years to complete, and sure it will matter, on the next years bitcoin should become more stable, and can achieve maturity, soo people can join and see they are investing into some gold eggs, volatil but with huge potencial.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Maslate on July 28, 2016, 12:18:11 PM
The next halving will take some years to complete, and sure it will matter, on the next years bitcoin should become more stable, and can achieve maturity, soo people can join and see they are investing into some gold eggs, volatil but with huge potencial.
Maybe this halving would be the basis if the next halving would be good for us or not, like people have already predicted that the price will rise eventually after the halving but as of now we have not seen any great improvement of the price.

That would only prove that only those who can hold bitcoins for a longer period of time will surely benefit from their investments and the weak hand will lose.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: rekinthis on July 28, 2016, 12:33:42 PM
I think yes, the halving is really matter to bitcoin. It's make the price of bitcoins increase so high up to 60% and bitcoin become more popular and makes more people use bitcoin.
of course halving really matters, because of halving the price is supposed to go up a lot in the future, its nice to see that the price can increase like 60 per cent because of that


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 29, 2016, 08:32:29 AM
I think yes, the halving is really matter to bitcoin. It's make the price of bitcoins increase so high up to 60% and bitcoin become more popular and makes more people use bitcoin.
of course halving really matters, because of halving the price is supposed to go up a lot in the future, its nice to see that the price can increase like 60 per cent because of that

The having will have some effect in the next two to three halving. After that, it will have much less effect.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: eternalgloom on July 29, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
I think yes, the halving is really matter to bitcoin. It's make the price of bitcoins increase so high up to 60% and bitcoin become more popular and makes more people use bitcoin.
of course halving really matters, because of halving the price is supposed to go up a lot in the future, its nice to see that the price can increase like 60 per cent because of that

The having will have some effect in the next two to three halving. After that, it will have much less effect.
Why are you saying this? At least give some reason why you think this would be the case...
The halving in itself do not have any real effect at all, except for miners, who just get less Bitcoins per block.

The rest is just hype.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: rio3233 on July 29, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Maybe the next halving will works. Because many people will expected like the last halving and people will keep their bitcoins and it's make the price of bitcoin increase same as now.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: bitdumper on July 29, 2016, 06:30:58 PM
yes it does. maybe we know that price does not effect much during halng process but we know one thing that bitcoin block reward will be teduced and miners will need more power to get more profit. or else they should  the transaction fees


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Vikingr on July 29, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
In the previous halving the price increased about three or four times and in the present halving the price doubled before halving day and the expectation is still there that the price will increase more after a few months, so keeping this in mind everyone will once again try to get bigger profit from the coming halving in 2020 and so everyone will buy more and more and with that the price will once again boost higher.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on July 30, 2016, 04:56:15 AM
Maybe the next halving will works. Because many people will expected like the last halving and people will keep their bitcoins and it's make the price of bitcoin increase same as now.
Halving always brings a good result but the result could not be felt directly and immediately, we need time to feel it and that is the situation where our trust in bitcoin will be tested, it is the time where we can evaluate ourselves that whether we should still hold or sell it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: ultrloa on July 30, 2016, 06:00:39 AM
Maybe the next halving will works. Because many people will expected like the last halving and people will keep their bitcoins and it's make the price of bitcoin increase same as now.

Yes i really agree next halving could be more exciting time to be happen on next time it will occur because many people are already aware that halving is the time to earn more profits with bitcoins and im pretty sure that many people would store and hold their bitcoins by the said event and that could lift up the price for bitcoins for more  and that scenario can be considerable that next halving will be the next big thing will be happen to bitcoins existence.


yes it does. maybe we know that price does not effect much during halng process but we know one thing that bitcoin block reward will be teduced and miners will need more power to get more profit. or else they should  the transaction fees

I think it has effect and look at for the price for today is this not a high price for you? And bitcoin reached some good price for those past months of halving still on the process and price reached at 700$+ wich is good thing happen for it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: junder on July 30, 2016, 06:05:15 AM
I think it the next halving the price of bitcoin will be increase to $1000 or more
because the next halving in 2020 years is the last block halving day.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Wendigo on July 30, 2016, 07:02:21 AM
I think the next halving and any halving thereafter will only concern the Bitcoin miners. For the average Joe like you and me it won't matter that much because we are only using the digital currency in transactions and that's all. We don't have to balance between ROI and ongoing expenses so except for hopefully increasing the price the next halving won't matter to me.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on July 31, 2016, 12:31:42 PM
I think it the next halving the price of bitcoin will be increase to $1000 or more
because the next halving in 2020 years is the last block halving day.

The price rose a few times in the last halving. So I think similar things will happen. The price will be $5000 or higher.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mundang on July 31, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?
The first one in your prediction is absolutely right. The second one is happening right now.
And your last prediction maybe it will happen next month.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: davis196 on July 31, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

I don`t see any "PANIC" after the halving.The price is stable.

Nothing important happened after the halving.Life just goes on.

I`m waiting for the next bubble,not for the next halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 01, 2016, 03:11:33 PM

I don`t see any "PANIC" after the halving.The price is stable.

Nothing important happened after the halving.Life just goes on.

I`m waiting for the next bubble,not for the next halving.

That is right. I think the price around $600 is ideal for the bitcoin price at this stage. I will buy a lot of it.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: airsounds on August 01, 2016, 03:40:02 PM
I think yes, the halving is really matter to bitcoin. It's make the price of bitcoins increase so high up to 60% and bitcoin become more popular and makes more people use bitcoin.
of course bitcoin halving is a really big thing and it is important for bitcoin, it is the main thing that allows bitcoin price to grow, i hope that because of it we will make a lot of money


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: secone on August 01, 2016, 04:02:28 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 02, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: secone on August 02, 2016, 03:15:26 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.

yes that means it will happen at the end of the year or early in 2017. I hope this incident the same as when halving by 2013, when the approaching end of the year, prices increased over $1,000.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on August 02, 2016, 06:10:29 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The halving made its impact before the halving occurred. The price more than doubled in the 8 or so months before the actual halving. If you believe that the halving would impact the price, this is your data to prove your point. People who expect the price to double after the halving don't understand how markets or investing work.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on August 02, 2016, 06:11:35 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.

In 6 or 12 months, there will be more bitcoins in existence than there are now, so this doesn't make sense. Total supply will continue to rise, and it's only if demand for bitcoins rises faster than supply that the price will increase.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: ontrackk on August 02, 2016, 07:13:40 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.
thats true, halving makes the price go up all in all because it does not allow people to mine a lot of bitcoins even though the need gets bigger so the price gets pumped


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: airsounds on August 02, 2016, 07:55:52 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.
yeah, it is sad that bitcoin price is not going up after halving, despite that it is going even down, in my opinion the next halving will be more productive and make us more money


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: ZlaiaZaia on August 02, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?
In general, the figures are not very positive affect on people's opinions. Of course if you are now 15 million and 21 million is already over, the difference is not really significant. And the question is, what next? But since this is an interest in very high cryptocurrency the bad forecasts can not do.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mrhelpful on August 02, 2016, 08:39:37 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.

yes that means it will happen at the end of the year or early in 2017. I hope this incident the same as when halving by 2013, when the approaching end of the year, prices increased over $1,000.

It will but the looks of it it usually is just a temp price and falls back to a slight higher price originally.

So the price you saw $600 can go back to $450 if we started at 300 zoneish.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: useless4 on August 02, 2016, 09:27:34 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

The effect of the halving could be felt in 6 to 12 months. There will be fewer bitcoins and the price will rise.
well it could be or the price could be dumped because everyone will just wait for an effect  you mentioned not buy and then dump all the coins


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Bitcotalk on August 02, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

Yeah, I think the same will happen, maybe the price increase even in this month sooner or later, the halving will show its effects and the price will increase to a higher value, as we now that before every pump a dump often happen.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 03, 2016, 06:20:48 PM
there was no significant effect of halving, and today has decreased. but I can not judge at this time, because we have to see until the end of the year. may be the effect of halving the coming few months of the close of the year.

Yeah, I think the same will happen, maybe the price increase even in this month sooner or later, the halving will show its effects and the price will increase to a higher value, as we now that before every pump a dump often happen.

The bitcoin price will not go higher in the short term. It will stay here to absorb the shock from the recent hack.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: groll on August 04, 2016, 08:00:25 AM
Yes it matters.  The price of bitcoin could go up or down.  But let us hope that after the halving the price still goes up.  We would know as the price of bitcoins depends on the investors.  It goes down because of someone fears of losing huge amount.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 05, 2016, 11:49:24 AM
Yes it matters.  The price of bitcoin could go up or down.  But let us hope that after the halving the price still goes up.  We would know as the price of bitcoins depends on the investors.  It goes down because of someone fears of losing huge amount.

The next halving from 12.5 to 6.25 still matters as the block reward will be still higher than the transaction fees.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 05, 2016, 06:01:26 PM
Yes it matters.  The price of bitcoin could go up or down.  But let us hope that after the halving the price still goes up.  We would know as the price of bitcoins depends on the investors.  It goes down because of someone fears of losing huge amount.

The next halving from 12.5 to 6.25 still matters as the block reward will be still higher than the transaction fees.

In about 12 to 16 years, the block reward shall be lower than the transaction fees due to the number of transactions.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: BitcoinPaw on August 05, 2016, 06:20:32 PM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time ;D


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on August 06, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time ;D
You could be right if we see a big pump of the price now to see the effect of having, as of today we have not experience that yet and many investors are longing for it to happen, I just hope it will happen this year so we will have a great bonus this year end, and that would only be the time I will conclude that investing right every halving is profitable.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 07, 2016, 09:41:37 AM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time ;D

In a few more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transaction fees in each block. So it will matter less.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Karloff on August 07, 2016, 10:01:09 AM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time ;D
You could be right if we see a big pump of the price now to see the effect of having, as of today we have not experience that yet and many investors are longing for it to happen, I just hope it will happen this year so we will have a great bonus this year end, and that would only be the time I will conclude that investing right every halving is profitable.
What has happened now with bitcoin, it was possible to predict in the spring. To do this, you need only look at the statistics course prior to the event with a bitcoin exchange burglary. Of course it is also affected, but the planning has gone by.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 07, 2016, 12:42:09 PM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time ;D

In a few more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transaction fees in each block. So it will matter less.

I think so. In the next few years, the price of the bitcoin will mainly affected by the demand and adoption of the coin.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: yenxz on August 07, 2016, 05:44:51 PM
The entire thing was designed to be a currency not something that based itself solely on hype. The reason that the price increase was because there are alot stupid people that believe the price will increase after haling a d the truth was they were the one causing it to increase by buying it


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Xenophoto on August 08, 2016, 04:45:04 AM
I think so. The difficulty doubles every halving and that means it becomes difficult over time exponentially and not linearly. It matters to the miners out there, they have to push before the next halving occurs or they will mine it twice harder. To people who don't do mining at all, halving also matters because it somehow increases the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin's price at first isn't that much because we haven't passed any halving yet and because Bitcoin is still new. If we pass more halvings and more people started to invest in gambling, there will be scarcity in the supply of Bitcoin and scarcity makes the value of something higher.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: gilangIDR on August 08, 2016, 04:58:20 AM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 08, 2016, 06:35:29 AM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.

The recent drop of the bitcoin price is due to the Bitfinex exchange hack, it has nothing to do with the halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 08, 2016, 11:58:12 AM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.

The recent drop of the bitcoin price is due to the Bitfinex exchange hack, it has nothing to do with the halving.

That is right. In the next few months, when the reduction of the supply of the new coins are felt, the price will go higher.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: yayayo on August 08, 2016, 01:03:23 PM
As we have seen, the halving did not lead to an immediate price increase. That's no surprise since the event was known years in advance. Investors and the mining industry generally prepare their positions before an event. Indeed, the Bitcoin price did rise prior to the halving. However there is no clear proof that the halving was the reason, since there is an uncountable number of other possible factors that could have influenced the Bitcoin price.

I'm pretty sure that all professional mining operators adjusted their operations in advance of the halving to ensure they remain profitable. It remains to be seen whether we see excess demand, excess supply or the same relationship like before for Bitcoin, because it is possible that miners sold only a fraction of their coins at a 25 BTC reward. So the real market supply for new coins might not change at all.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: randy8777 on August 08, 2016, 01:35:41 PM
As we have seen, the halving did not lead to an immediate price increase. That's no surprise since the event was known years in advance. Investors and the mining industry generally prepare their positions before an event. Indeed, the Bitcoin price did rise prior to the halving. However there is no clear proof that the halving was the reason, since there is an uncountable number of other possible factors that could have influenced the Bitcoin price.

I'm pretty sure that all professional mining operators adjusted their operations in advance of the halving to ensure they remain profitable. It remains to be seen whether we see excess demand, excess supply or the same relationship like before for Bitcoin, because it is possible that miners sold only a fraction of their coins at a 25 BTC reward. So the real market supply for new coins might not change at all.

ya.ya.yo!

i am fairly sure that the price increase that happened before the block halving was purely because of people were thinking that the price would go up after the halving. so it was the hype and speculation that has been driving the price. smart people have used the peak in the month june to cash out the coins they bought before that. and that's exactly what has happened.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on August 08, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
I think so. The difficulty doubles every halving and that means it becomes difficult over time exponentially and not linearly. It matters to the miners out there, they have to push before the next halving occurs or they will mine it twice harder. To people who don't do mining at all, halving also matters because it somehow increases the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin's price at first isn't that much because we haven't passed any halving yet and because Bitcoin is still new. If we pass more halvings and more people started to invest in gambling, there will be scarcity in the supply of Bitcoin and scarcity makes the value of something higher.

The difficulty does not double every halving, in fact the difficulty is unrelated to the halving at all. Difficulty is only affected by the number of hashes being performed. You can see in this graph that the difficulty has already more than doubled in just the first 8 months of this year.

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 08, 2016, 09:52:47 PM
As we have seen, the halving did not lead to an immediate price increase. That's no surprise since the event was known years in advance. Investors and the mining industry generally prepare their positions before an event. Indeed, the Bitcoin price did rise prior to the halving. However there is no clear proof that the halving was the reason, since there is an uncountable number of other possible factors that could have influenced the Bitcoin price

There can indeed be an innumerable number of factors (most of them offsetting each other, though), but you still have to explain somehow the almost four times growth in the Bitcoin price within just a year. Saying that a lot of factors very efficiently and very timely added up to boost the price so high just doesn't cut it. I think it can be readily explained by the collusion of the Chinese miners (actually mining pools) to prop up the Bitcoin price before the halving (by withholding bitcoins they mine)...

If you think there is none, think again, for example, about the block size which is still where it was a year ago


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: OROBTC on August 08, 2016, 09:59:44 PM
...

O/T, note for deisik

I received my OPENDIMEs today, and had a chance to test one (putting BTC, then taking it out).  Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1452987.40

TL;DR: The device works, but a tiny bit more complicated for relative beginners (like me).  Also, to send funds OUT, you (or recipient) needs a wallet that will accept importing public & private keys.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 09, 2016, 12:01:52 PM
As we have seen, the halving did not lead to an immediate price increase. That's no surprise since the event was known years in advance. Investors and the mining industry generally prepare their positions before an event. Indeed, the Bitcoin price did rise prior to the halving. However there is no clear proof that the halving was the reason, since there is an uncountable number of other possible factors that could have influenced the Bitcoin price.

I'm pretty sure that all professional mining operators adjusted their operations in advance of the halving to ensure they remain profitable. It remains to be seen whether we see excess demand, excess supply or the same relationship like before for Bitcoin, because it is possible that miners sold only a fraction of their coins at a 25 BTC reward. So the real market supply for new coins might not change at all.

ya.ya.yo!

i am fairly sure that the price increase that happened before the block halving was purely because of people were thinking that the price would go up after the halving. so it was the hype and speculation that has been driving the price. smart people have used the peak in the month june to cash out the coins they bought before that. and that's exactly what has happened.

That is true. The price rose before the halving. So there is no price rise after the halving. The price drop now has nothing to do with halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: fravia on August 09, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.
yeah, the price dropped a little bit though i dont think this is going to go like that for a long time, in my opinion the price is going to jump soon


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: expert4knowledge on August 09, 2016, 03:52:34 PM
If you look at the chart, you see that price rise happened with a lag before halving and after halving it did not increase nor decreased so halving could attracted many people into bitcoin searching to get a good profit.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on August 10, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.
yeah, the price dropped a little bit though i dont think this is going to go like that for a long time, in my opinion the price is going to jump soon
I also agree with your prediction that this current price will not last, in the next few days it will totally increase because the demand is increasing and the crisis is already over, the current trend now is a good sign that price will pump soon.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on August 10, 2016, 10:19:03 AM
With increased usage and wider adoption of Bitcoin, the demand for bitcoins is always increasing, there was a good impact in price before recent halving and it showed no positive signs after. we cant predict whether the next halving brings good impact on price, that we can see later.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 10, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
With increased usage and wider adoption of Bitcoin, the demand for bitcoins is always increasing, there was a good impact in price before recent halving and it showed no positive signs after. we cant predict whether the next halving brings good impact on price, that we can see later.

Four years is a lot of time. Anything can happen in the interim, and, in this way, the next halving can be totally discarded for the time being if you are trying to make an "educated" guess, lol


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 10, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
With increased usage and wider adoption of Bitcoin, the demand for bitcoins is always increasing, there was a good impact in price before recent halving and it showed no positive signs after. we cant predict whether the next halving brings good impact on price, that we can see later.

Four years is a lot of time. Anything can happen in the interim, and, in this way, the next halving can be totally discarded for the time being if you are trying to make an "educated" guess, lol


In the next 4 years, the bitcoin price will be affected by the mass adoption. The more usage, the higher the fee, the less effect of the halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: lister storm on August 10, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
until now there has been significant change. bitcoin price has declined compared to the previous. halving halving no impact and also make the market very panic.
and there most probably wont be any improvement in the near future, i think that it should grow at some point though i cannot tell it for sure


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 10, 2016, 04:35:57 PM
With increased usage and wider adoption of Bitcoin, the demand for bitcoins is always increasing, there was a good impact in price before recent halving and it showed no positive signs after. we cant predict whether the next halving brings good impact on price, that we can see later.

Four years is a lot of time. Anything can happen in the interim, and, in this way, the next halving can be totally discarded for the time being if you are trying to make an "educated" guess, lol


In the next 4 years, the bitcoin price will be affected by the mass adoption. The more usage, the higher the fee, the less effect of the halving.

After a few more halving, the transactions within a block will be more than the block reward due to the general usage.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 10, 2016, 04:43:19 PM
With increased usage and wider adoption of Bitcoin, the demand for bitcoins is always increasing, there was a good impact in price before recent halving and it showed no positive signs after. we cant predict whether the next halving brings good impact on price, that we can see later.

Four years is a lot of time. Anything can happen in the interim, and, in this way, the next halving can be totally discarded for the time being if you are trying to make an "educated" guess, lol


In the next 4 years, the bitcoin price will be affected by the mass adoption. The more usage, the higher the fee, the less effect of the halving.

After a few more halving, the transactions within a block will be more than the block reward due to the general usage.

It is not given. If the usage doesn't expand but the rewards decline (due to forthcoming halvings), miners may try to cause an artificial jam as it had happened exactly one year ago. It may help them short-term, but in the long run users will just start to transact less with higher amounts per transaction...

And the fees may actually decrease per block


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jak3 on August 10, 2016, 06:19:40 PM
the price did really increased but not for halving but because of holding before halving and now since we have seen about what just happened on this haling next time it will start decreasing its importance.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: wikenpp on August 10, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
At this moment it seems to me the only thing can can positively influence the bitcoin price are halving. With good news; new versions, news; steem accepting bitcoin or the brexit debacle the price was not moved an inch, but for some reason when it is about halving the price goes up just like that.

So yeah it matters a lot, although I am sure before 2020 the price will increase gradually.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: dragunfly on August 10, 2016, 08:53:54 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on August 11, 2016, 10:26:13 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 11, 2016, 02:23:13 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on August 13, 2016, 04:18:56 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 13, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.

I simply cannot fathom how a halving can be a good news for the miners if they instantaneously lose half of their earnings at the moment of halving...

Care to explain?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: coin_gambler on August 13, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
thats true, with time less and less bitcoins will be left to be mined, i hope that it will allow me to make some good profit and one day i will become rich


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 13, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.

I simply cannot fathom how a halving can be a good news for the miners if they instantaneously lose half of their earnings at the moment of halving...

Care to explain?

If you earn the bitcoin, then halving is bad for the miners. If the price rises due to halving, and the price more than double, then it is good for the miners.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: socks435 on August 13, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.

I simply cannot fathom how a halving can be a good news for the miners if they instantaneously lose half of their earnings at the moment of halving...

Care to explain?

If you earn the bitcoin, then halving is bad for the miners. If the price rises due to halving, and the price more than double, then it is good for the miners.
I dont understand what you mean but how you know that block halving is bad for the miners? honestly i think halving has a good effect for the miners because this is a new level of the price of bitcoin and new goal for miners.. because the price will increase more this following months..
They can be make more profit these following month..


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Fraxinus on August 13, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
If you mean if it matters on price,then it actually can matter and not-it depends on how the market reacts to it but the halving itself doesn't neccessarily mean anything in regards of price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: outatime1 on August 13, 2016, 04:07:28 PM
If it's like this past halving, the price will increase before the halving and then it may pull back a little after it is over. I would assume that will happen based on knowing in advance that it is coming.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 13, 2016, 04:26:21 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.

I simply cannot fathom how a halving can be a good news for the miners if they instantaneously lose half of their earnings at the moment of halving...

Care to explain?

If you earn the bitcoin, then halving is bad for the miners. If the price rises due to halving, and the price more than double, then it is good for the miners.

If the price rises, it is good for anyone except those who are shorting Bitcoin. Since it is not given that the price will rise due to halving (let alone double), the news of halving per se cannot be good for miners (since their revenue will be half as much after the halving, with profits probably turning into losses). I'm more than sure that the total majority of them would prefer the price to rise without halving...

Is there anyone who could possibly disagree with that?


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Doamader on August 14, 2016, 12:00:50 AM
At 2020 the year the next halving should happen, for sure it will be meaning a lot as i believe it will when bitcoin will hit again the 1000 dollars , and stand stable at that  price, soo recover from the past and achieve those value for me its like a restart for those who invested at bitcoin and got scared as bitcoin went to 200 dollars. Soo reach once again those 4 digits will be like making history and i will be here to see it happen.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on August 14, 2016, 03:56:03 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.

I simply cannot fathom how a halving can be a good news for the miners if they instantaneously lose half of their earnings at the moment of halving...

Care to explain?

If you earn the bitcoin, then halving is bad for the miners. If the price rises due to halving, and the price more than double, then it is good for the miners.

If the price rises, it is good for anyone except those who are shorting Bitcoin. Since it is not given that the price will rise due to halving (let alone double), the news of halving per se cannot be good for miners (since their revenue will be half as much after the halving, with profits probably turning into losses). I'm more than sure that the total majority of them would prefer the price to rise without halving...

Is there anyone who could possibly disagree with that?
Halving cannot be prevented and it is part of the system of bitcoin, since halving has already happened this year and we have expected that the price will increase which is until now we have not seen that first,it would probably affect the miners if the price will not rise and we have to hope that the price will rise so that miners will remain profitable and investors as well will earn.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 14, 2016, 11:13:40 AM
If you earn the bitcoin, then halving is bad for the miners. If the price rises due to halving, and the price more than double, then it is good for the miners.

If the price rises, it is good for anyone except those who are shorting Bitcoin. Since it is not given that the price will rise due to halving (let alone double), the news of halving per se cannot be good for miners (since their revenue will be half as much after the halving, with profits probably turning into losses). I'm more than sure that the total majority of them would prefer the price to rise without halving...

Is there anyone who could possibly disagree with that?
Halving cannot be prevented and it is part of the system of bitcoin, since halving has already happened this year and we have expected that the price will increase which is until now we have not seen that first,it would probably affect the miners if the price will not rise and we have to hope that the price will rise so that miners will remain profitable and investors as well will earn

You should never forget the basics of economics which are pretty clear here. Halving predictably halves the miners revenue (did you expect something else?), but revenue is not profit, so to compensate for the loss (partial or total) of profits the price should necessarily increase more than twice. And more than twice is actually a great underestimation in respect to what real Bitcoin price rise should be for miners to remain profitable. This is what happened before this halving (prices grew more than three times), but for the next halving they should increase pretty much by the same ratio again from the current price levels...

All this essentially means that for one bitcoin sold more than two should be bought (three would do much better)


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: jaysabi on August 18, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
The number sold and the number bought should always be the same. How can you buy a bitcoin that wasn't sold? Perhaps you mean for every bitcoin mined, two should be bought? Although I'm not sure that makes any sense either.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mandica on August 23, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
The number sold and the number bought should always be the same. How can you buy a bitcoin that wasn't sold? Perhaps you mean for every bitcoin mined, two should be bought? Although I'm not sure that makes any sense either.

I think they mean the active buy and passive selling.

When there are more active buying than active selling, the price will rise.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on August 23, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
The number sold and the number bought should always be the same. How can you buy a bitcoin that wasn't sold? Perhaps you mean for every bitcoin mined, two should be bought? Although I'm not sure that makes any sense either.

I think they mean the active buy and passive selling.

When there are more active buying than active selling, the price will rise.

In the simplest case, for the price to rise two times, the demand should exceed the supply as much (other things being constant, e.g. supply and demand elasticities). This essentially means that at the current price level (i.e. before the demand and supply are rebalanced at a higher price), two bitcoins would be bought (aggregate demand) with only one sold (aggregate supply). This discrepancy is the prerequisite for the price to rise, and it is not something purely hypothetical (as it might seem at first glance)...

Since the bitcoin which is left unpurchased (sellers no longer willing to sell at current prices) will be bought at a higher price


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Doamader on August 23, 2016, 11:17:13 PM
The number sold and the number bought should always be the same. How can you buy a bitcoin that wasn't sold? Perhaps you mean for every bitcoin mined, two should be bought? Although I'm not sure that makes any sense either.

I think they mean the active buy and passive selling.

When there are more active buying than active selling, the price will rise.

In the simplest case, for the price to rise two times, the demand should exceed the supply as much (other things being constant, e.g. supply and demand elasticities). This essentially means that at the current price level (i.e. before the demand and supply are rebalanced at a higher price), two bitcoins would be bought (aggregate demand) with only one sold (aggregate supply). This discrepancy is the prerequisite for the price to rise, and it is not something purely hypothetical (as it might seem at first glance)...

Since the bitcoin which is left unpurchased (sellers no longer willing to sell at current prices) will be bought at a higher price
This current demand may get bigger if the megaupload owner brings those big community he had and keep several of them, into crypto world, and special into bitcoin. All halvings are important there isnt one more important then other, the only thing is the community of bitcoin is growing and at each stage of halving we will see how people react to less and less coins.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: techfm86 on August 27, 2016, 04:11:41 PM
I think so, after the halving there is less coins being added in the supply, but the effect takes time to be visible in the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: potatopower on August 27, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time
of course it matters a lot, it makes the price of the bitcoin not drop too much, also in a longer run i think that it will make the price go up


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: takingthis4 on August 30, 2016, 01:24:27 PM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time
of course it matters a lot, it makes the price of the bitcoin not drop too much, also in a longer run i think that it will make the price go up
yeah, it is one of the main things what makes bitcoins alive and allows the price to keep on growing, its really good that we have it


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on September 09, 2016, 08:26:24 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time
of course it matters a lot, it makes the price of the bitcoin not drop too much, also in a longer run i think that it will make the price go up
yeah, it is one of the main things what makes bitcoins alive and allows the price to keep on growing, its really good that we have it

The fixed supply of the bitcoin is very good for the long term health. I buy and invest in bitcoin because of that.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Aamir1 on September 09, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
Okay, will the next halving really matter? All i see is people talking about it and waiting to happen, "the price will rise", "to the moon". But what will really happen after the halving?

Right now, there are about 15 million Bitcoins "alive". The Bitcoin cap is 21 millions. So it is true, the block reward will get sliced to half, but there will be only 6 million Bitcoins left to mine. And because of this, i dont think the price will rise by that much.

My predictions would be:
1. Everyone waiting for the price increase after halving
2. Price increase doesnt happen
3. PANIC
4. ...




So this is just my opinion. Please post yours in the replys. What do you expect after halving and why?

That happened already, halving went away and there wasn't any skyrocketing of bitcoin price as what people have been predicting, but that couldn't create any panics among them as well i think and now all of them are waiting and wishing for the next halving to bring a drastic change in the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Decoded on September 09, 2016, 11:42:52 AM
Honestly only people with half a brain would think the price would go up after the halving. Everyone was holding their bitcoin waiting for a price increase, when in actuality they were making the price increase by buying bitcoin to hold. History repeats itself, this is going to happen every halving.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on September 09, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Honestly only people with half a brain would think the price would go up after the halving. Everyone was holding their bitcoin waiting for a price increase, when in actuality they were making the price increase by buying bitcoin to hold. History repeats itself, this is going to happen every halving.

Well, it never occurred to me that halving could actually refer to brains (apart from Bitcoin mining reward halving). Nevertheless, despite all the hype, we still have to face the fact that Bitcoin supply had been essentially halved. And it was not a one-off event in the sense we now have half as many Bitcoins mined, everyday.  Obviously, miners are neither the only ones who contribute to the market supply of Bitcoins, nor do they necessarily sell all their newly mined coins (this had already been a matter of hot debates before the recent halving). On the other hand, the expansion of Bitcoin user base (e.g. due to legalizing Bitcoin in Russia) can easily swallow up what's left of this residual supply. The moral is that we may not have yet seen the long-term effects of the halving up to the hilt, and they are fundamentally bullish, no matter what...

Alternately stated, we have yet to find out who had their brains halved


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Carmen_Sandiego on September 17, 2016, 06:59:32 AM
Of course, because after the halving  there are less coins being added  to the supply, the  effect takes time to  be visible in the price though.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: SvenBomvolen on September 17, 2016, 07:06:47 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: mirakal on September 17, 2016, 08:14:38 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.
Have you noticed that every time halving comes the price is good, that is what happen this year also because the halving took place this year and look at the price now, it doubles already compared to the opening price of the year 2016 so I think it really matters for us to make profit.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Viyamore on September 17, 2016, 10:13:22 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.
Have you noticed that every time halving comes the price is good, that is what happen this year also because the halving took place this year and look at the price now, it doubles already compared to the opening price of the year 2016 so I think it really matters for us to make profit.
We need more years and adoption of bitcoin the mere fact there are many updates about bitcoins use which can make people got curious what is it and what are bitcoins ,like update news, Bitcoins Blockchain is planning to use by the IBM and Tokyo's Largest bank by this 2017.Banks are now planning to use bitcoins ,italy to use bitcoins as their currency .So this next halving season will be a shaking ground which i think a big boom to the bitcoins price and to the new investors .


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on September 18, 2016, 06:47:11 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.
Have you noticed that every time halving comes the price is good, that is what happen this year also because the halving took place this year and look at the price now, it doubles already compared to the opening price of the year 2016 so I think it really matters for us to make profit.
We need more years and adoption of bitcoin the mere fact there are many updates about bitcoins use which can make people got curious what is it and what are bitcoins ,like update news, Bitcoins Blockchain is planning to use by the IBM and Tokyo's Largest bank by this 2017.Banks are now planning to use bitcoins ,italy to use bitcoins as their currency .So this next halving season will be a shaking ground which i think a big boom to the bitcoins price and to the new investors .

Adoption is the most important factor in determining the bitcoin price. The more people use it, the higher the price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: deisik on September 18, 2016, 09:08:22 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.
Have you noticed that every time halving comes the price is good, that is what happen this year also because the halving took place this year and look at the price now, it doubles already compared to the opening price of the year 2016 so I think it really matters for us to make profit.
We need more years and adoption of bitcoin the mere fact there are many updates about bitcoins use which can make people got curious what is it and what are bitcoins ,like update news, Bitcoins Blockchain is planning to use by the IBM and Tokyo's Largest bank by this 2017.Banks are now planning to use bitcoins ,italy to use bitcoins as their currency .So this next halving season will be a shaking ground which i think a big boom to the bitcoins price and to the new investors .

A major fiat currency crash (Euro, USD or Yuan) would instantaneously add a lot more to Bitcoin popularity and adoption than years of positive news or plans to use Bitcoin by technological companies and financial corporations (which may well remain just plans). When Bitcoin was at its last lows at around $200 about only a year ago, it was regular devaluation sessions of Yuan carried out by the Chinese Central bank that reversed the Bitcoin price decline which had lasted for over a year by that time...

When money talks, bullshit walks


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Tanic on September 18, 2016, 05:14:34 PM
When was that halving it didn't affect on me somehow. Because that moment I have just entered in bitcoin world amd only began to make my first satoshies. And cause of that here on bitcoin talk one month you work as nobody here and without any payment and that sites that give free bitcoins give really few$ I could save only 0.2$ to the moment when the halving began. hahaha So I just skipped that.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: amacar2 on September 18, 2016, 06:08:02 PM
Of course, because after the halving  there are less coins being added  to the supply, the  effect takes time to  be visible in the price though.
Actually even after halving and supply get limited, price may not easily get pumped because after halving it needs more fresh money that can increase total marketcap of bitcoin. So yes obviously halving will keep on limiting supply but demand should also be increased to see effect on price.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: sanas on October 13, 2016, 08:03:37 AM
Of course, because after the halving  there are less coins being added  to the supply, the  effect takes time to  be visible in the price though.
Actually even after halving and supply get limited, price may not easily get pumped because after halving it needs more fresh money that can increase total marketcap of bitcoin. So yes obviously halving will keep on limiting supply but demand should also be increased to see effect on price.

If the block size does not increase, many people will not use the bitcoin, the price will not rise much.


Title: Re: Does the next halving really matter that much?
Post by: Chachacoin17 on November 24, 2018, 09:59:51 PM
yeah because without the miner taking their profit, you have nothing besides an insecure network that can fall apart at any given time

price need to increase no matter what other think, it's how this entire thing was designed, the halving just happear to be the right catalyst for this

The entire thing was designed to be a currency not something that based itself solely on hype. The reason that the price increase was because there are alot stupid people that believe the price will increase after haling a d the truth was they were the one causing it to increase by buying it


yeah but this sudden increase will fall down again after the those people realized after halving that the price didn't actually affected by the said halving ,as there are still a lot to mined and another reason is that demands for this BTC can always be matched by the sales, because this is a currency and it is not consumed so price of this coin are actually not affected even though the supply from miners gone low as those 25 million will always be on the network. and will not fade. as there are Buyers; there are sellers and vice versa.
The status of the BTC will not maintain to the top it has flactuation it keeps moving that is the reason that we need to look for the market stage aso that we will be able to keep in track and knows what are the updates of it. Their are lots of buyers and they matter to in demand so that they will be able to identify either gain or lose.