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Title: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 09, 2016, 03:08:23 AM
Social media, though often the subject of severe criticism of our youth, has caused radical changes to our political

system, even though we don't notice it.

As we saw the legalization of gay marriage in the USA, I saw it not as legalization, but rather, an "unblock" on civil

liberties of a group of people.

Such is the same for marijuana legalization. For the sake of simplicity, neglected from the article are very important

points such as; The military industrial complex, the failed war on drugs and its burden on the taxpayer

So, without further bantering, here are my five arguments!

1) Civil liberty

This is number 1 because in this case, it does not matter if you are using marijuana for recreational (to just get high!

:D), medicinal (there are several applications), spiritual, or religious purposes, but because, as a Libertarian, I

believe that the principles of liberties are universal. If a group of people by general consensus can claim ownership

over your civil liberties by a 51% vote, then there is obviously a moral issue there, making the concerned human being

very undemocratic.

2) Medicinal

Marijuana has many medicinal uses, in my case, mental health. Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

3) Cultural

Marijuana has been a part of several cultural practices. Ancient civilizations have been using the plant for ceremonies

for thousands of years. A lot of these civilizations have been subject to erasure due to post colonialism under the

corporatocracy. It is only fair that they be allowed to partake in cultural traditions, as Americans do with their

alcohol.

4) Religious

Human beings are very religious people. I myself am opposed to several organized religions, including Christianity,

Judaism, and Islam (No debating!). However, by imposing my religious views (or lack, thereof) on a religious group of

people would make me guilty of the very same vices that I accuse them of.

5) Prohibition was founded on a lie

We were told that marijuana was dangerous, that it can lead to permanent psychosis, cause schizophrenia (this is the

"vaccines cause autism" of our times and has no scientific basis), and corrupt our youth by having them lead immoral and

destitute lives. However, several states have done well under legalization, reducing addiction and crime rates in just a

few years (Colorado is one example)

Please discuss, but be civil! Thou hast been warned..


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Trifixion713 on June 09, 2016, 04:03:54 AM


5) Prohibition was founded on a lie

We were told that marijuana was dangerous, that it can lead to permanent psychosis, cause schizophrenia (this is the

"vaccines cause autism" of our times and has no scientific basis), and corrupt our youth by having them lead immoral and

destitute lives. However, several states have done well under legalization, reducing addiction and crime rates in just a

few years (Colorado is one example)

Please discuss, but be civil! Thou hast been warned..
It was most definitely founded on a lie. We can thank DuPont, Hearst, and Mellon for prohibition and the reefer madness insanity and propaganda which still some buy into in 2016.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 09, 2016, 04:15:56 AM


5) Prohibition was founded on a lie

We were told that marijuana was dangerous, that it can lead to permanent psychosis, cause schizophrenia (this is the

"vaccines cause autism" of our times and has no scientific basis), and corrupt our youth by having them lead immoral and

destitute lives. However, several states have done well under legalization, reducing addiction and crime rates in just a

few years (Colorado is one example)

Please discuss, but be civil! Thou hast been warned..
It was most definitely founded on a lie. We can thank DuPont, Hearst, and Mellon for prohibition and the reefer madness insanity and propaganda which still some buy into in 2016.

Ah, you are way ahead of me with your post. You are thinking of the economic beneficiaries of the war on drugs.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Fortify on June 09, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
There is no world government, just a collection of differently governed countries. Actions like this can take generations to change, but it seems to be moving in the direction of legalisation, which ultimately makes sense. It's near enough the same as alcohol - some people can handle it and others cannot. Criminals will capitalise off prohibition and they do already, for this one drug and possibly a few others it makes sense to raise tax revenue instead.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: salsa321 on June 09, 2016, 07:15:18 PM
how many ratio benefit from marijuana?


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 09, 2016, 07:57:02 PM
how many ratio benefit from marijuana?

That figure is easily in the millions, once you add in all the potential medicinal marijuana users, everyone who has been diagnosed with; ADHD, epilepsy, generalized anxiety disorder, bipolar disorder, seizures, Parkinson's disease, glaucoma, etc etc



Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: xht on June 09, 2016, 11:35:41 PM
How dangerous is legal marijuana? legal marijuana is a very dangerous drug! so i've a simple question here! How much money did the state and federal government receive from marijuana taxes?


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 10, 2016, 12:43:38 AM
How much money did the state and federal government receive from marijuana taxes?


Plenty. Which state are you asking about? Colorado made enough to resolve their education deficit.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Cybertron00 on June 11, 2016, 01:14:27 AM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: clickerz on June 11, 2016, 03:31:03 AM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

I agree with medicinal marijuana. Sale of this drug must be regulated and those who has prescription only can have access to this drug.If it is not regulated, it can be abused easily.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2016, 03:36:35 AM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

I agree with medicinal marijuana. Sale of this drug must be regulated and those who has prescription only can have access to this drug.If it is not regulated, it can be abused easily.

Why the sales of Marijuana must be regulated? What about tobacco? Alcohol and tobacco are even more harmful to health, when compared to weed. But there are no restrictions on the sale of these items. The ban on marijuana must be removed, as it is only helping the Mexican drug cartels and the big pharma giants such as Pfizer.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 11, 2016, 05:11:44 AM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

I agree with medicinal marijuana. Sale of this drug must be regulated and those who has prescription only can have access to this drug.If it is not regulated, it can be abused easily.

It's the shaaree ha that tell you that? Are you a sympathizer of ISIS? You should look into it they seems too to be into managing the life and what others can put in their bodies... Problem you will not be able to Change the package with so called democratic vote (50%+1 votes) it's take it or leave (if you are lucky).

Prohibition has no place in the American Jihad. What would the founding fathers have thaught of people pretending to be Americans bent on stoping people to dispose of their own bodies, with a plant furthermore... Who created the plants?


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 11, 2016, 12:20:49 PM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

Marijuana is not a drug of abuse. Tobacco cigarettes are more addictive, as is alcohol but those industries have corporate representatives


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: reuschman on June 11, 2016, 01:36:14 PM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

Marijuana is not a drug of abuse. Tobacco cigarettes are more addictive, as is alcohol but those industries have corporate representatives

Yes you say true. there are a lot of money behind these industries that we can't ever know.
only one of the big company of tobacco worth more than entire btc in circulation!


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 11, 2016, 02:41:12 PM
The first thing to do is to Not use the vocabulary of the enemy. Only by being able yourself to define about what you speak will the ennemies lose their control over your mind.

By saying the word "drug" you have already been framed. Then they already have won the debate. Don't passively accept their domination.

I hope we can(abis) agree on that?

Ex: plant, weeds, psychoactive, psychotropic, mind altering substance, addictive natural substance, natural product... Etc

Please share your own!

Don't forget it's a war! Those ennemies are like Isis terrorists, they would be happy to put you in a cage in the middle of the town (Isis does that for cigarettes and alcohol, but at least have a divine justification and it's applied to all). In the so called free west it's pure population control and management. Don't fall for their old, used and dirty tricks, own the language. Don't accept the imposition of their worldview or frame on you. Leave their matrix of enlsavement and incarceration and culpabilities. Be free and life can become and is if you know how to look beautiful enough to not indulge in those product of the Earth.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 11, 2016, 04:33:20 PM
I hope we can(abis) agree on that?

Terrible pun, but I agree otherwise. It is a war, they refer to it as such (ie The War on Drugs)

Liberty shall prevail in the end.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 11, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
And in every war there is only question: on which side do you want to be?

The one of God or the one of his ennemies?

Mine is obvious.

Quote
"In principio creavit deus..."

Translation: In the beginning God created...

-In God We Trust-

It's a very serious issue.

(Some will answer the winning side, but all victors of the flesh died and before God had to answer about all their deeds... Better prepare now, as the day is unknown but certain)

And to the fake religious from all side who believe in a God or Gods, how do you explain that you are actively destroying a part of his Creation? At least Isis has a justification because the mind of the mujahideens and the Muslims must be clear from all psycoactives at all time to pray and be ready to die and be judged by God at all time which is translated in many verses in the Quran. For the others it's pure social conditioning. Like alcohol prohibition one day yes, then no more.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2016, 05:13:08 PM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

Marijuana is not a drug of abuse. Tobacco cigarettes are more addictive, as is alcohol but those industries have corporate representatives

Yes you say true. there are a lot of money behind these industries that we can't ever know.
only one of the big company of tobacco worth more than entire btc in circulation!


Annual cigarette retail sales are worth around $750 billion (remember that there are other tobacco products as well, in addition to cigarettes). In case marijuana is legalized, then these sales can plummet by a significant margin.

Another aspect is pharma. Every year, close to 1.8 million cases of lung cancer are reported from all over the world. Big pharma companies make hundreds of billions of $$$ in profit from the sales of drugs which are used against lung cancer. Marijuana does not cause lung cancer, unlike tobacco. That means that marijuana legalization can be bad news for big pharma.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 11, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Lungs are made to breath the athmosphere... Not fire fumes (including ICE and jet engines).

As soon as the debate is reframed on the side of health again it's dangerous. What is safe? Sugar should be ban too?
As such better not enter it anyway. It's a basic question of right to live and be.

It's one thing to tell someone that a plant is dangerous when combusted (tobacco) another to kill all tobacco plants and jail it's users. You see the parallels?

This is the problem of forced socialized medicine, what is healthy and who decide it? No more sex than once a week said the doctor or you insurance triples... No more etc etc...

It's a war zone against human freedom, responsibility and the quest of happiness !!


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 11, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
It opens up a whole new debate when you want the government to decide what you can or cannot consume, indeed, they are the worst people to be handing that authority over to


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 11, 2016, 05:41:33 PM
Their ultimate goal is to have access to women. By jailing people under false pretense they skew the ratio in their favors. It's a war zone and we are moving to electronic speed. Will be fun.

...what? How is that relevant to the thread??


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 11, 2016, 05:48:54 PM
Their ultimate goal is to have access to women. By jailing people under false pretense they skew the ratio in their favors. It's a war zone and we are moving to electronic speed. Will be fun.

...what? How is that relevant to the thread??

Thank you for keeping me inline. No explanation, no justification only victory!


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2016, 07:02:50 PM
Their ultimate goal is to have access to women. By jailing people under false pretense they skew the ratio in their favors. It's a war zone and we are moving to electronic speed. Will be fun.

Rubbish. How this is even remotely related to the topic? Most of the guys, who are jailed for drug related offenses belong to the lower social and economic classes. Their "access" to women is already limited, as they have bigger problems (such as the basic necessities) to worry about. And I don't think that the numbers are significant enough to skew the gender ratio.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: samlanhan1 on June 11, 2016, 08:27:13 PM
It would be awesome to have marijuana legalized. Smokings its cool and all but the real benefits are in eating and drinking it. Unfortunately the price for that on the regular is ridiculous considering all the legal hoops we currently have to through.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 12, 2016, 12:30:05 AM
Their ultimate goal is to have access to women. By jailing people under false pretense they skew the ratio in their favors. It's a war zone and we are moving to electronic speed. Will be fun.

Rubbish. How this is even remotely related to the topic? Most of the guys, who are jailed for drug related offenses belong to the lower social and economic classes. Their "access" to women is already limited, as they have bigger problems (such as the basic necessities) to worry about. And I don't think that the numbers are significant enough to skew the gender ratio.

He's probably an American feminist. They know how to tie misogyny to just about anything.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: zenitzz on June 12, 2016, 02:30:18 AM
it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does or does not put into his body. as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 12, 2016, 02:35:32 AM
it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does  or does not put into his body as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment


There, I fixed that for you. Now you're a Libertarian like me.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2016, 04:19:32 AM
it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does  or does not put into his body as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment


There, I fixed that for you. Now you're a Libertarian like me.

I'd rather agree with zenitzz. I have no issues with someone taking drugs (soft-drugs such as cannabis and peyote, or hard-drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine and krokodil). But they should not cause trouble to the others. I have seen numerous incidents of drug-users indulging in arson and other disruptive activities.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 12, 2016, 04:40:59 AM
Their ultimate goal is to have access to women. By jailing people under false pretense they skew the ratio in their favors. It's a war zone and we are moving to electronic speed. Will be fun.

Rubbish. How this is even remotely related to the topic? Most of the guys, who are jailed for drug related offenses belong to the lower social and economic classes. Their "access" to women is already limited, as they have bigger problems (such as the basic necessities) to worry about. And I don't think that the numbers are significant enough to skew the gender ratio.

He's probably an American feminist. They know how to tie misogyny to just about anything.

If you like your gynocracy, you can keep your gynogracy. I hope you will like the next phase! With hilarious, Pocahontas and the crew it will be insane...

it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does  or does not put into his body as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment


There, I fixed that for you. Now you're a Libertarian like me.

I'd rather agree with zenitzz. I have no issues with someone taking drugs (soft-drugs such as cannabis and peyote, or hard-drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine and krokodil). But they should not cause trouble to the others. I have seen numerous incidents of drug-users indulging in arson and other disruptive activities.

This is why by making the products dirt cheap the impact will be lesser. Furthermore people causing trouble don't need any intakes.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 12, 2016, 04:55:37 AM
it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does  or does not put into his body as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment


There, I fixed that for you. Now you're a Libertarian like me.

I'd rather agree with zenitzz. I have no issues with someone taking drugs (soft-drugs such as cannabis and peyote, or hard-drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine and krokodil). But they should not cause trouble to the others. I have seen numerous incidents of drug-users indulging in arson and other disruptive activities.

Okay, let me just stop you there. Krokodil, and arson for drugs, are by-products of the war on drugs. Krokodil is a cheap alternative to heroin, made from LEGAL ingredients.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 12, 2016, 05:11:22 AM
it should be legal for one reason:
the government does not have the authority to determine what an adult does  or does not put into his body as long as the individual is responsible enough to partake in a controlled private environment


There, I fixed that for you. Now you're a Libertarian like me.

I'd rather agree with zenitzz. I have no issues with someone taking drugs (soft-drugs such as cannabis and peyote, or hard-drugs such as heroin, methamphetamine and krokodil). But they should not cause trouble to the others. I have seen numerous incidents of drug-users indulging in arson and other disruptive activities.

Okay, let me just stop you there. Krokodil, and arson for drugs, are by-products of the war on drugs. Krokodil is a cheap alternative to heroin, made from LEGAL ingredients.

Among the alternative Russian patriots some people believe that Afghanistan and this fake war on drug in Russia has the goal of weakening the most male possible to increase the supply of women to the former kgb traitor who chose to indulge in wealth... You know when you have land border to the golden triangle... The flow of spice will go...

And yes Putin is the one directly responsible for krokodil in Russia... He has this mindset of the virtuous Russian male like hitler that he wants to impose on all the russian. It's a miracle that lavrov is still smoking cigarettes. Those constipated old mind have no place anymore...


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: goanadupabitcoin on June 12, 2016, 02:48:26 PM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: goanadupabitcoin on June 12, 2016, 02:49:59 PM
They all know it's harmless anyway, they don't want to be the one legalizing it because they don't want to lose the vote of concerned mothers.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 13, 2016, 05:02:39 AM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Thank you! This needs to be point number 6. It will reduce stigma and common misconceptions about marijuana, this is the realistic end goal.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 13, 2016, 05:58:25 AM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Thank you! This needs to be point number 6. It will reduce stigma and common misconceptions about marijuana, this is the realistic end goal.

Wrong, pesticides & fungicides & chemical additives can cause great biological damages. This a war, and all war are multifaceted.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2016, 06:12:45 AM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 13, 2016, 06:37:21 AM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.

Apparently vasodilation and improved sleep quality and quantity may play a useful role... One sure thing the Vladimir lifestyle (for those acquainted to the Russian media) is of course better! My problem is praising a lifestyle okay, but criminalizing another not okay.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: DarkThrones on June 13, 2016, 08:55:16 AM
Say what you want but I am experienced in drug culture. While marijuana is the least dangerous in terms of overdosing, it causes extremely bad effects in regular users. It's one of the most potent and long lasting drugs. Should they make it legal I don't mind, it just means more good jobs will open up for people who don't feel the need to be idiots and use drugs ;D


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2016, 09:12:04 AM
While marijuana is the least dangerous in terms of overdosing, it causes extremely bad effects in regular users.

Don't try to fool the others. What are these "extremely bad effects" resulting from the regular usage of marijuana? My friends have been using weed for many decades now, and I am yet to notice any of these "extremely bad effects" on them. Alcohol and tobacco, on the other hand, are more dangerous than marijuana.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on June 13, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.

I have also heard that it stimulates appetite in patients when radiation from the chemo makes them lose it. The same goes for aids medication. Maybe it is not about one or the other but how they can be used jointly (pun intended)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: mindrust on June 13, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
I smoked marijuana a few times when i was younger. It just makes you dizzy and tired. Marijuana is just a hardcore marlboro. It doesn't make butterflies flying in your head. Only a headache.

Pretty sure it fcks up your body too. I really don't care who smokes and who doesn't but it sure makes you lazy and capitalism don't want lazy people around. They want you to work. That's why it is forbidden almost everywhere around the world.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: criptix on June 13, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
Wow so many drug addicts on this forum o.O

Btw of course it changes body and mind or do you know people that are naturally stoned? Lol


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: protokol on June 13, 2016, 04:00:57 PM
...

Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do
, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

...

First of all, great post, I agree with the vast majority of what you said in your OP. But I disagree with you here on the pharmacology of marijuana/THC vs benzodiazepines, the bolded part. Can you source this research, I'd really like to read it.

Firstly, benzodiazepines and the chemicals in marijuana are totally different drug classes, with different mechanisms of action:

THC mainly affects the cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2 primarily), but it does also have an effect on GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid). It has been known to inhibit GABA.

Benzodiazepines on the other hand, are GABA receptor agonists, this is their main mechanism of action. This means they increase the efficiency of GABA on the brain. More GABA/higher efficiency of GABA makes the brain relaxed, whereas inhibition of GABA has the opposite effect (some speculate this is why some people get paranoid/uncomfortable on high THC strains).

So put simply, THC and benzodiazepines have opposite effects on GABA.

However, I suspect that some of the other cannabinoids in cannabis such as CBD may have different effects on GABA in the brain - this is a hot area of research right now (for the scientists lucky enough to be legally allowed to research it  >:( >:( >:()

What you say about the addictiveness is 100% true, benzos are extremely addictive, and withdrawal is one of the worst around, some say even worse than heroin and alcohol. You can get seizures which can kill you if you cold turkey from a long-term benzo habit. However don't forget that weed is mildly addictive as well.

Couple more corrections - the addictiveness of a drug is not because it is "stronger", it is to do with the drugs action on the body. And marijuana certainly does have side-effects, some of which are the same or similar to pharmaceutical drugs. All "pharmaceutical" means is that the drug has been tested and patented - for example in the UK a company called GW Pharma have a pharmaceutical drug called "Sativex" (http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.aspx). It is an extracted combo of THC and CBD, taken from weed grown in their secret growing labs here in the UK! (side note, I'm thinking about buying some stock in their company, think they could do very well when weed gets legalised in more states/countries, my stock tip for the day)

There is a common attitude among some of my friends, which is that "natural=good, synthetic/pharmaceutical=bad", and it's nonsense. Everything is chemicals, some good, some bad, some natural, some synthetic, some patented, some not. Botulinum Toxin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin) is a barrel of laughs, 100% natural and the, uuhm, most potent toxin known to man...  ;)

As a personal note, I used to smoke quite a lot but haven't for a while - the effects were not pleasant anymore and made me lose motivation and become anti-social in my life. It's certainly not a cure-all wonder drug like some people say, but does have major medical and recreational use for many, with an incredibly safe track record.

I 100% support the legalisation of weed (and all drugs in fact), but I also think that more education is needed, and of course more research into the benefits/dangers of marijuana.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Semidetached on June 13, 2016, 10:04:10 PM
Hey more braindead zombie stoners to do the stupid work nobody else wants to do. I'm fine with that ;D


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: protokol on June 13, 2016, 10:17:18 PM
I smoked marijuana a few times when i was younger. It just makes you dizzy and tired. Marijuana is just a hardcore marlboro. It doesn't make butterflies flying in your head. Only a headache.

Pretty sure it fcks up your body too. I really don't care who smokes and who doesn't but it sure makes you lazy and capitalism don't want lazy people around. They want you to work. That's why it is forbidden almost everywhere around the world.

No, it's actually forbidden because some people in power in America in the 1930s had ulterior motives for its prohibition.

It was partly because they didn't like the influx of Mexican immigrants at that time, who used marijuana recreationally. So the use of marijuana was associated with poor Mexicans/jazz clubs etc. There was also a conflict of interest, because hemp fiber competed with the cotton industry and nylon  made by Du Pont. Whaddya know, the guys in power were good friends with the guys from Du Pont, and some people running the cotton industry, so in 1937, they banned marijuana, because REEFER MADNESS!!!

Propaganda at its finest, and it still influences the world today. For example, Japan used to have tens of thousands of cannabis farms, but now it has a strict anti-cannabis stance - this began after the American control of Japan after the 2nd World War.

It's all very interesting, if a little depressing...


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Got Dick? on June 13, 2016, 10:49:50 PM
Pot is great, end of story. But not for children, legalize it for the sake of our kids!


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on June 14, 2016, 12:39:44 AM
But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

8)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: protokol on June 14, 2016, 01:53:57 AM
But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

8)

It's a nice idea, and I agree, in an ideal world weed would be freely grown and used responsibly. However, we have this thing called "society"...

You can't make an illegal thing free without first legalising it, it's a bit like the step between Socialism and Communism.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: DarkThrones on June 14, 2016, 02:11:41 AM
So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: protokol on June 14, 2016, 02:45:06 AM
So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.

What do you mean? You understand that inititially, everything was legal, men made the laws that banned substances. You realize that all of these things are just substances, chemicals, they have no morals or conscience...

Like I said earlier, I believe all drugs should be legalised.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: PhilPrime on June 14, 2016, 02:51:40 AM
not gonna happen. it will makes the world in chaos. stop non sense reason about this illegal drugs


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 14, 2016, 02:52:54 AM
But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

8)

Exactly!

The governments can go and fuck themselves. They need to stop meddling in the day to day life of the citizens. The government can't dictate what should I eat or drink. We are not slaves of the government. Fortunately, as Bitcoin gradually replaces the fiat currency, the governments will find it more and more difficult to enslave the people.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: yesiam6 on June 14, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
I think that legalization of marijuana would be a good thing

"In sum, there is little evidence that decriminalization of marijuana use necessarily leads to a substantial increase in marijuana use." National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine (IOM). 1999. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press: Washington, D.C., 102. http://www.nap.edu/read/6376/chapter/1

There are many other studies that came to the same conclusion

I think that the positive aspects would outweigh the negative ones



Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on June 14, 2016, 06:29:34 PM
I think that legalization of marijuana would be a good thing

"In sum, there is little evidence that decriminalization of marijuana use necessarily leads to a substantial increase in marijuana use." National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine (IOM). 1999. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press: Washington, D.C., 102. http://www.nap.edu/read/6376/chapter/1

There are many other studies that came to the same conclusion

I think that the positive aspects would outweigh the negative ones



Legalization means government control.

Nobody cares about government controlling marijuana, especially not government.

What government is after is controlling YOU through the appearance of marijuana control.

Don't want freedom? Legalize.

8)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 15, 2016, 02:48:59 AM
Legalization means government control.

Nobody cares about government controlling marijuana, especially not government.

You are wrong. Legalization does not mean government control. On the other hand, regulation represents government control. Still, legalization and regulation is the best we can hope for marijuana. At least it will be better than the current scenario, where Marijuana users are treated as the number one national security threat (even ahead of the ISIS recruiters).


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 15, 2016, 05:14:36 AM
Decriminalizitation of all psychoactive users is the only option that make sense in the context of national security.

And

Legalization of all psychoactive plants is the only option that make sense in the context of national security.

To think the contrary is a proof positive of your potential spiritual membership with ISIS. You believe in the use of violence and coercion on victimless consentfull damage less activities done by fellow human beings. You believe to be on the right side and legitimized in using violence (incarceration, fines, executions) what ever the source of your belief, the Founding Fathers of America never thought about criminalizing plant users. They weren't fools...


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: apollofire on June 15, 2016, 06:17:43 AM
Yes, totally agree with all the 5 points. Good analysis


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: nururochac on June 15, 2016, 07:53:12 AM
Its just that my opinion, I think marijuana must be legalized but with restrictions. For example, you can't buy marjiuana unless you got some medical prescription from a qualified doctor. That way drug abusers can't abuse it easily.  ;D

I agree with medicinal marijuana. Sale of this drug must be regulated and those who has prescription only can have access to this drug.If it is not regulated, it can be abused easily.
I dont think it should be regulated. That should be the same in other vices like cigarettes and alcohol no one prohibited it. And I think marijuana is way safer because it has no chemicals its just a pure leave unlike cigarette and tobacco.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 15, 2016, 07:59:48 AM
So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.

Alcohol is a much harder drug than weed, if drugs should be illegal then alcohol should be at the top of the list.  Maybe we should ban coffee and chocolate since these have about the same ammount of risks to your health as weed.  As for heroin and others, it's not really the job for police to tell people what they can and can't take.  I don't think those kind  of drugs should be sold in shops though.

But basically its outrageous that alcohol is legal when it's so dangerous and antisocial but marijuana is illegal.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Seansky on June 22, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Well I think that marijuana legalization ain't right. Well it should just be legalized for medical purposes only. If it were to be used for other purpose, then it should not be legalized.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 22, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
Well I think that marijuana legalization ain't right. Well it should just be legalized for medical purposes only. If it were to be used for other purpose, then it should not be legalized.

Can you explain your reasoning for not allowing recreational use?  Not allowing medical use is criminal,  recreational use should be legal imo  because why not?  Coffee, alcohol, nicotine, chocolate and tea are all legal and most of these have far worse health implications than marijuana.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: virtualx on June 22, 2016, 02:29:25 PM
Well I think that marijuana legalization ain't right. Well it should just be legalized for medical purposes only. If it were to be used for other purpose, then it should not be legalized.

Marijuana legalization could be a billion dollar industry. It could provide jobs for unemployed and a boost in the economy.

So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.

Comparing heroine to marijuana  ::)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 22, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
Well I think that marijuana legalization ain't right. Well it should just be legalized for medical purposes only. If it were to be used for other purpose, then it should not be legalized.

Marijuana legalization could be a billion dollar industry. It could provide jobs for unemployed and a boost in the economy.

So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.

Comparing heroine to marijuana  ::)

And fight global warming by sequestration of co2...

Personally I have 0 problem to use drones hellfire missiles against people like Seansky. Let's say that my daughter started to use weed or heroin. Seansky will want to jail her for a victimless crime and expose her to criminal. I will cheers and celebrate and replay the video of when the missile blow the hell out of seansky... What a great day. 1 terrorist less. And I don't care if it's a few billions people... Drone manufacturing and before God after such mass extermination I would say and answer : 1 for my daughter 2 for the survival of a plant so that thy creation isn't exterminated. I wait for thy judgement.

Remember seansky the monopoly of violence can switch from one election (or coup).


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 22, 2016, 04:30:30 PM
having marijuana illegal just make normal people into criminals, As said above its a victimless crime or it would be if it was legal, Its the illicit trade that makes marijuana bad.

As far back as we have documentation, humans enjoyed taking mind altering substances but at the moment the only thing you can take is alcohol. Why not have an option to take something much much more harmless? A recent article i read compared the negative effects of taking marijuana to similar as not flossing. In actual fact comparing marijuana to drugs like heroin and alcohol is ridiculous due to how much more dangerous these 2 are.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 05:32:49 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 22, 2016, 06:29:02 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)

Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: mOgliE on June 22, 2016, 06:59:24 PM


Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

Totally agreed.
But you can't blame USA for the bann of marijuana. You must blame our useless shitty governments for, like everytime, kissing the ass of USA. Like in most things, our shitty weak elected assholes decided to obey the Americans while they should have just told us "man you're just too stupid to be even listened" and go on with an actual logical legislation...

But hey, USA corrupted nearly every aspect of our life, marijuana is just one of them...


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 07:06:47 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)

Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

I am totally NOT NOT NOT advocating legalizing marijuana. Why not? Legalization means government control, just like illegalization does. Government has too much control already. Rather, let them repeal all the laws against marijuana, and then drop out of the picture, letting the people be free to do what they want.

8)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 22, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)

Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

I am totally NOT NOT NOT advocating legalizing marijuana. Why not? Legalization means government control, just like illegalization does. Government has too much control already. Rather, let them repeal all the laws against marijuana, and then drop out of the picture, letting the people be free to do what they want.

8)

Well if thats the case then id also be happy to do away with any kind of legislation and put the power into the peoples hands so i agree with you here that it should be totally beyond goverment control, although i would be willing to settle of legalisation since thats the best shot we have.



Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

Totally agreed.
But you can't blame USA for the bann of marijuana. You must blame our useless shitty governments for, like everytime, kissing the ass of USA. Like in most things, our shitty weak elected assholes decided to obey the Americans while they should have just told us "man you're just too stupid to be even listened" and go on with an actual logical legislation...

But hey, USA corrupted nearly every aspect of our life, marijuana is just one of them...

I agree that our politicians were just as bad to go along with the whole thing but alas, It happened and thats what we're now stuck with :(


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 07:22:43 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)

Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

I am totally NOT NOT NOT advocating legalizing marijuana. Why not? Legalization means government control, just like illegalization does. Government has too much control already. Rather, let them repeal all the laws against marijuana, and then drop out of the picture, letting the people be free to do what they want.

8)

Well if thats the case then id also be happy to do away with any kind of legislation and put the power into the peoples hands so i agree with you here that it should be totally beyond goverment control, although i would be willing to settle of legalisation since thats the best shot we have.


THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER, ALREADY. They simply don't realize how much power they have. If they didn't, government would have overrun the whole country long ago.

I'll re-post this Karl Lentz post entirely so that you can simply watch the video. The whole video is more than 5 hours, but you need to watch only 10 minutes of it (from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523090.msg15323373#msg15323373, but re-posted below). CLICK THE LINK IN THE PICTURES BELOW. Don't stop with the video. Learn all that Karl has to say.


Flat Earth con exposed?! This is what Karl Lentz is doing to expose the whole government.


Karl Lentz at Johnson City Tennessee - April 16th 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw#t=105m0s)


8)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Masha Sha on June 22, 2016, 07:29:31 PM
What good is life without fun? I mean, if you have all the money in the world, and all the authority in the world, and all the knowledge, and all the power, but you don't have fun, what good is it to live?

The smart people in government, the ones with the authority, the ones with the money, the ones with the knowledge, the ones with the power... they don't have fun. Rather, they are miserable. And they are so jealous of the rest of us for having marijuana fun, that they have made it illegal just so that we will be miserable just like they are.

You know the old saying, "Misery loves company."

8)

Can you just confirm that you are actually advocating legalising marijuana? If so this is probably the first thing we can finally agree on. This is one area where i actually look up to america for pushing legislation forward (even if it is their fault it was banned in the first place )

I am totally NOT NOT NOT advocating legalizing marijuana. Why not? Legalization means government control, just like illegalization does. Government has too much control already. Rather, let them repeal all the laws against marijuana, and then drop out of the picture, letting the people be free to do what they want.

8)

This point can be illustrated in the Bitcoin world so easily... The only statist who imposed a license (nyc) will repeal it when they will see how stupid it makes them.

There is no law in Bitcoin, some companies go bust other raise... The market is dynamic, there are 1000's of Alts competiting to dethrone the King and it's moving great.

The free market is the second most powerful force in the universe, because it's the will of men (the 1st being the Will of God).

Not everyone chose the path of victim hood in the drug war... The cartels and those producers in Afghanistan are ready to kill... And a lot (as much as necessary to guarantee the flow) and the most beautiful thing is that the price reflect the risk making the war on drug simply impossible to win because some children of those profiting of the war on drug consume it (and not only them) making the circle of more violence inevitable.

Anyway all cops and judge played hard in Mexico until the nice guy from the cartel were replaced by a more adapted group, ready to profi from the high price induced by higher risks... At what ever the cost. Furthermore the drug war is wasting limited state resources whose lack will contribute to the professionalism of the drug traders.

More fun is when corrupt politicians receive bribe from the drug trade and then directly or indirectly but some...

Total irrational. I side with the Chinese Emperor who refused the concept of the illegality of a plant.

Birth control pills are way more dangerous to water quality... But it's beyond the intellect of boiling water with radiation monkey descendants ;-)


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: groll on June 24, 2016, 07:15:31 AM
Here in our country there are group of people who are pushing it to be legalized as it has medicinal value.  I just watched it like a few days ago, a documentary about an epileptic two year old girl.  Because of the hard times her mother seeing her child suffering like that, she learned upon seeing and researching on the internet that marijuana is such a big help/treatment.  There are group of people and some doctors here who are pushing marijuana to be legalized.  On the limit of, it has to be requested by a certain patient who needed the cannabis oil, the oil that was extracted from marijuana that according to them can treat cancer and epilepsy. 


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Jmild1 on June 24, 2016, 10:34:21 AM
Here in our country there are group of people who are pushing it to be legalized as it has medicinal value.  I just watched it like a few days ago, a documentary about an epileptic two year old girl.  Because of the hard times her mother seeing her child suffering like that, she learned upon seeing and researching on the internet that marijuana is such a big help/treatment.  There are group of people and some doctors here who are pushing marijuana to be legalized.  On the limit of, it has to be requested by a certain patient who needed the cannabis oil, the oil that was extracted from marijuana that according to them can treat cancer and epilepsy.  
Marijuana has never been a threat for any health issue, it is the media that putting bad image on it. In fact, marijuana is way safer than alcohol and cigarette.

I think government made it illegal for businesses like alcohol and cigarette to profit.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: helloeverybody on June 24, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Here in our country there are group of people who are pushing it to be legalized as it has medicinal value.  I just watched it like a few days ago, a documentary about an epileptic two year old girl.  Because of the hard times her mother seeing her child suffering like that, she learned upon seeing and researching on the internet that marijuana is such a big help/treatment.  There are group of people and some doctors here who are pushing marijuana to be legalized.  On the limit of, it has to be requested by a certain patient who needed the cannabis oil, the oil that was extracted from marijuana that according to them can treat cancer and epilepsy.  
Marijuana has never been a threat for any health issue, it is the media that putting bad image on it. In fact, marijuana is way safer than alcohol and cigarette.

I think government made it illegal for businesses like alcohol and cigarette to profit.

I Beleive one of the original reasons it was banned was not due to it beinga drug  but due to hemp being a superior product to what w avaliable at the time. Nowadays though the big pharmaceutical company's don't want it legalized because they would lose a fortune  (at the moment some marijuana products exist made by gw pharmacys (sativa i think it's called)  but the cost of actually getting prescribed it is massive whereas if marujuana was legal then you could grow your own for a fraction of the cost.  Also as an alternative to highly addictive opiods cannabis is fat better if it works for you due to the lack of any side effects.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: ardentvolcanoes on June 24, 2016, 11:42:17 AM

2) Medicinal

Marijuana has many medicinal uses, in my case, mental health. Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

I agree that it should be legalize the main reason is for its medicinal use according to some article that i have read before Marijuana can be used to treat and prevent the eye disease glaucoma, which increases pressure in the eyeball, damaging the optic nerve and causing loss of vision. And i cam be very helpful to those people who have epilepsy .


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on June 24, 2016, 03:35:35 PM

2) Medicinal

Marijuana has many medicinal uses, in my case, mental health. Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

I agree that it should be legalize the main reason is for its medicinal use according to some article that i have read before Marijuana can be used to treat and prevent the eye disease glaucoma, which increases pressure in the eyeball, damaging the optic nerve and causing loss of vision. And i cam be very helpful to those people who have epilepsy .

Guess it's clever to just have this regulated. People and studies nowadays have actually proven how this herb really works medical miracles. Why should we keep this from treating people.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on August 28, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
I say this from an American perspective. When you have a constitution that does not allow the State to regulate what you cannot consume, and the majority (>=50%) disapprove of it, you live in neither a democracy nor a constitutional Republic, but a fascist corporate oligarchy run by a fearmongering elite.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 05:59:27 PM
Well I think that marijuana legalization ain't right. Well it should just be legalized for medical purposes only. If it were to be used for other purpose, then it should not be legalized.

Can you explain your reasoning for not allowing recreational use?  Not allowing medical use is criminal,  recreational use should be legal imo  because why not?  Coffee, alcohol, nicotine, chocolate and tea are all legal and most of these have far worse health implications than marijuana.

You are right on target. Marijuana is no more dangerous than coffee or tea. OK... forget coffee and tea... even forget tobacco and alcohol. American Indians are allowed to use peyote, which causes hallucinations and visions. Magic mushrooms are legal in New Mexico. Then why the government is so much against the use of Marijuana?


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on August 28, 2016, 06:57:33 PM
Social media, though often the subject of severe criticism of our youth, has caused radical changes to our political

system, even though we don't notice it.

As we saw the legalization of gay marriage in the USA, I saw it not as legalization, but rather, an "unblock" on civil

liberties of a group of people.

Such is the same for marijuana legalization. For the sake of simplicity, neglected from the article are very important

points such as; The military industrial complex, the failed war on drugs and its burden on the taxpayer

So, without further bantering, here are my five arguments!

1) Civil liberty

This is number 1 because in this case, it does not matter if you are using marijuana for recreational (to just get high!

:D), medicinal (there are several applications), spiritual, or religious purposes, but because, as a Libertarian, I

believe that the principles of liberties are universal. If a group of people by general consensus can claim ownership

over your civil liberties by a 51% vote, then there is obviously a moral issue there, making the concerned human being

very undemocratic.

2) Medicinal

Marijuana has many medicinal uses, in my case, mental health. Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

3) Cultural

Marijuana has been a part of several cultural practices. Ancient civilizations have been using the plant for ceremonies

for thousands of years. A lot of these civilizations have been subject to erasure due to post colonialism under the

corporatocracy. It is only fair that they be allowed to partake in cultural traditions, as Americans do with their

alcohol.

4) Religious

Human beings are very religious people. I myself am opposed to several organized religions, including Christianity,

Judaism, and Islam (No debating!). However, by imposing my religious views (or lack, thereof) on a religious group of

people would make me guilty of the very same vices that I accuse them of.

5) Prohibition was founded on a lie

We were told that marijuana was dangerous, that it can lead to permanent psychosis, cause schizophrenia (this is the

"vaccines cause autism" of our times and has no scientific basis), and corrupt our youth by having them lead immoral and

destitute lives. However, several states have done well under legalization, reducing addiction and crime rates in just a

few years (Colorado is one example)

Please discuss, but be civil! Thou hast been warned..


You forgot the biggest reason. Legalization gives government the right to tax us for marijuana growing, owning and use.

I say, get government out of our lives. Repeal laws that make marijuana illegal, and don't add any that make it legal. Let us be free of taxes, and free to use marijuana as we choose, without government regulation and interference.

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Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on August 28, 2016, 07:30:30 PM
in my country, many young people are dying because of synthetic drugs.
Why would they use it? Because they are still new, so they are legal.
Some people dont want to use regular drugs, because the law will punish you- and synthetic are legal, but they are deadly in most cases.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: Tyrantt on August 28, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
if you ask me, all drugs should be legal, so natural selection can step in place. If people want to do drugs, they'll always find a way to get them.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on August 28, 2016, 08:57:45 PM
if you ask me, all drugs should be legal, so natural selection can step in place. If people want to do drugs, they'll always find a way to get them.

If you ask me, nothing should be legal or illegal except when you harm someone or damage his property. Get government out of our lives all the way so we can be free.

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Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: xht on August 28, 2016, 10:44:13 PM
if you ask me, all drugs should be legal, so natural selection can step in place. If people want to do drugs, they'll always find a way to get them.
Health reasons that always makes the drug can't be legal but on the other hand wherever we are, there will be a way to get all of it, why is the government not make it easy for the drug peredaraan that where they can supervise in a place that has been designated.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on August 31, 2016, 07:30:45 AM
States with legalized marijuana find a 25% decrease in painkiller associated deaths.

The 13 states that had legalized medicinal marijuana between 1999 to 2010 have found a 25% decrease in deaths due to overdose of legally prescribed opioids, according to a study by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2014 (http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1898878).


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 31, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
States with legalized marijuana find a 25% decrease in painkiller associated deaths.

The 13 states that had legalized medicinal marijuana between 1999 to 2010 have found a 25% decrease in deaths due to overdose of legally prescribed opioids, according to a study by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2014 (http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1898878).

No surprise at all. Portugal legalized all drugs (both soft-drugs like marijuana and peyote, and hard drugs such as heroin and LSD) in 2001. In 2015, the number of deaths due to drug overdose had declined by a startling 75% (i.e number of deaths are just 1/4th of that in 2001). Not just that. Rate of continuation of drug usage went down from 45% to 28%. HIV infection rates among injecting drug users declined from 42 per million to just 6 per million!


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: awesome31312 on August 31, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
States with legalized marijuana find a 25% decrease in painkiller associated deaths.

The 13 states that had legalized medicinal marijuana between 1999 to 2010 have found a 25% decrease in deaths due to overdose of legally prescribed opioids, according to a study by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2014 (http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1898878).

No surprise at all. Portugal legalized all drugs (both soft-drugs like marijuana and peyote, and hard drugs such as heroin and LSD) in 2001. In 2015, the number of deaths due to drug overdose had declined by a startling 75% (i.e number of deaths are just 1/4th of that in 2001). Not just that. Rate of continuation of drug usage went down from 45% to 28%. HIV infection rates among injecting drug users declined from 42 per million to just 6 per million!

I'd like to know what has led you to classify LSD as a "hard drug". It is non-toxic, creates no physiological dependencies, does not remain in your system for long, and has no deaths associated with a result of direct use.


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on May 10, 2017, 08:43:34 PM
Cannabis reverses aging processes in the brain, study suggests (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/217806-2017-05-10-cannabis-reverses-aging-processes-in-the-brain-study-suggests.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/533-0510081401-1705081124001540x360.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/217806-2017-05-10-cannabis-reverses-aging-processes-in-the-brain-study-suggests.htm)


Memory performance decreases with increasing age. Cannabis can reverse these ageing processes in the brain. This was shown in mice by scientists at the University of Bonn with their colleagues at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Israel). Old animals were able to regress to the state of two-month-old mice with a prolonged low-dose treatment with a cannabis active ingredient. This opens up new options, for instance, when it comes to treating dementia.

Memory performance decreases with increasing age. Cannabis can reverse these ageing processes in the brain. This was shown in mice by scientists at the University of Bonn with their colleagues at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Israel). Old animals were able to regress to the state of two-month-old mice with a prolonged low-dose treatment with a cannabis active ingredient. This opens up new options, for instance, when it comes to treating dementia. The results are now presented in the journal Nature Medicine.

Like any other organ, our brain ages. As a result, cognitive ability also decreases with increasing age. This can be noticed, for instance, in that it becomes more difficult to learn new things or devote attention to several things at the same time. This process is normal, but can also promote dementia. Researchers have long been looking for ways to slow down or even reverse this process.


Read more at https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170508112400.htm.


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Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: chixka000 on May 11, 2017, 12:42:53 AM
Basically i would have to agree on the reason number 2. It can really cure some serious health problems especially cancer. However for me it is still not a reason for the government to legalize it. This might lead to any abuse of the substance. However i would not also agree to illegalized the substance as it ca give a lot of benefits


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on May 11, 2017, 02:42:31 AM
Basically i would have to agree on the reason number 2. It can really cure some serious health problems especially cancer. However for me it is still not a reason for the government to legalize it. This might lead to any abuse of the substance. However i would not also agree to illegalized the substance as it ca give a lot of benefits

Anybody can do substance abuse with thousands of things right in their home. For example, using standard household products and soaps, you can make meth... a kind that doesn't need to be cooked... and is a thousand times worse for you than pot.

The whole drug war thing is a method for bringing people into slavery in one way or another. Legalizing stuff that has been free to use for thousands of years, takes the freedom out of it, and away from the people. It brings money into Government.

Get Government out of your life. Don't legalize or illegalize. Let people be free.

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Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: chixka000 on May 11, 2017, 03:21:53 AM
Basically i would have to agree on the reason number 2. It can really cure some serious health problems especially cancer. However for me it is still not a reason for the government to legalize it. This might lead to any abuse of the substance. However i would not also agree to illegalized the substance as it ca give a lot of benefits

Anybody can do substance abuse with thousands of things right in their home. For example, using standard household products and soaps, you can make meth... a kind that doesn't need to be cooked... and is a thousand times worse for you than pot.

The whole drug war thing is a method for bringing people into slavery in one way or another. Legalizing stuff that has been free to use for thousands of years, takes the freedom out of it, and away from the people. It brings money into Government.

Get Government out of your life. Don't legalize or illegalize. Let people be free.

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Maybe right but if you are not crazy you would not drink  muriatic acid. Unlikr the weed in which we all know its benefits  i dont want to see most of us walking on the street feeling so high


Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on May 11, 2017, 03:42:50 AM
Basically i would have to agree on the reason number 2. It can really cure some serious health problems especially cancer. However for me it is still not a reason for the government to legalize it. This might lead to any abuse of the substance. However i would not also agree to illegalized the substance as it ca give a lot of benefits

Anybody can do substance abuse with thousands of things right in their home. For example, using standard household products and soaps, you can make meth... a kind that doesn't need to be cooked... and is a thousand times worse for you than pot.

The whole drug war thing is a method for bringing people into slavery in one way or another. Legalizing stuff that has been free to use for thousands of years, takes the freedom out of it, and away from the people. It brings money into Government.

Get Government out of your life. Don't legalize or illegalize. Let people be free.

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Maybe right but if you are not crazy you would not drink  muriatic acid. Unlikr the weed in which we all know its benefits  i dont want to see most of us walking on the street feeling so high

But, you love those crazy people so much,
that you want to help them against their own will,
and hire Government to steal tax money from all of us,
to use on some druggies to help them,
when they don't want help,
by taking their pot away,
so that they develop meth which is a thousand times worse.

That isn't helping anybody. Rather, it is developing worse drugs that can't be controlled at all without placing everybody into strait-jackets.

At the same time it is giving control to a bunch of crazy cops
who break down doors, often of innocent people,
in their zealousness to find druggies,
which is really a way for them to steal valuables
from innocent people,
who they "accidentally" get the wrong address for,
when they SAY they are going after druggies.

On the other hand, legalization is a method to tax the stuff.

Get government out of our lives before they tax the comb in your pocket, thereby stealing everything that you have.

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Title: Re: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization
Post by: BADecker on March 11, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
If this is as successful as it will be, people will be able to load their own inhalers with CBD oil. Or look up essential oil difusers. Get one, and distribute microscopic droplets of CBD oil throughout your home.


Clinical Research Begins On Cannabis Inhalers in Israel, Offering Immediate Pain Relief to Cancer Patients Who Can’t Smoke (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/257474-2019-03-11-clinical-research-begins-on-cannabis-inhalers-in-israel-offering-immediate.htm)



As a means of providing immediate pain relief for cancer patients, scientists have begun conducting clinical research on delivering medical cannabis concentrates through an inhaler.

This new method of delivery will increase accessibility for cancer patients who are treated with long-term pharmaceutical cannabis (such as sublingual tablets), and those suffering from acute cancer pain who prefer to avoid smoking cannabis.

“Every piece of clinical research that helps manage treatment using medical cannabis is important. Delivering treatment via inhalation is characterized by a quicker response time than oral or sublingual tablets,” said Dr. Itay Gur-Aryeh, Director of the Pain Unit at Sheba Hospital, Tel Hashomer,

The inhaler includes an attached vaporizer to which the patient adds the measured dose of cannabis extract for inhalation. The cannabis extract includes a precise dose of active ingredients.


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