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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara)

military taking over turkey right now

What the fuck....?

It's not 100% confirmed, from what I've read, but... wtf, is this for real? In a NATO country?

This may affect quite a lot what's going to happen with the refugees trying to reach Europe...

And I don't want to think what's in the hearths of those preparing to go to Turkey this summer (or they're there)...

The army there (or at least a part of it) couldn't let few years passes without making a coup, wondering how it will be its number now if it will succeed? 5? 6?
Funny part you see some people who supports the democracy support this coup!  ;)

Live from Istanbul: https://twitter.com/is_fink

NATO? LoLz...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Was my 2nd though. But erdogan just apologized to putin/russia.

And yes the coup is real. It is going viral in the internet and tv right now.

It is just unknown if majority of the military supports the coup.

Erdogan is hiding right now and calls the turkish population to resist the military coup.

I wonder who's helping the military in Turkey? I know there's been many coups in the last 50 years, but this seems serious.

I reckon American agencies such as the CIA have something to do with this, maybe even EU agencies?

I have no evidence, but a military takeover of Turkey and the overthrow of Erdogan would be beneficial for America and the EU, and both have the power to influence this sort of action...

EDIT: I don't mean direct help such as troops/tanks, more like indirect communications. Statements made to the military commanders such as: "If you stage a coup, the West will support you in overthrowing Erdogan".

Erdogan makes statement telling Turks to rise up against the coup.

Tanks run over cars amid protests by pro-Erdogan protesters: https://twitter.com/moezbhar/status/754082828082671616 (https://twitter.com/moezbhar/status/754082828082671616)  (video)

Turkish Intelligence Agency bombed by military: https://twitter.com/KordishPhoto/status/754079173149331457 (https://twitter.com/KordishPhoto/status/754079173149331457)  (photo)

Gunfights between military and policemen in streets: https://twitter.com/RobPulseNews/status/754081134321860608 (https://twitter.com/RobPulseNews/status/754081134321860608)  (video)

Civilians try and take over a tank, it drives off over a car: https://twitter.com/yunuspaksoy/status/754078897189298176 (https://twitter.com/yunuspaksoy/status/754078897189298176) (video)

Translated "public official under fire": https://twitter.com/Nayn_Co/status/754086295186661376 (https://twitter.com/Nayn_Co/status/754086295186661376)  (video)

This is nuts, live reddit thread here: https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq (https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq)

Just heard that the military has complete control of Turkey now. General is being held hostage.
All this happening within last 24 hours is very disturbing.
So does this indeed mean that Turkey will become an islamic state ruled by the Turkish army?

No the opposite.

Yes, exactly this. The Turkish army are staging this coup in opposition to Erdogans radical muslim values, they generally favour secularism and democracy. This is why I think the US and/or the EU may have something to do with it.

The West is on the side of the military here.

Oh, good! I hope that ugly muslim terrorist of Erdogan will be jailed. The army can only make Turkey better. It was Ataturk who turned Turkey into a modern country and Erdogan who pushed the country back to muslim stone age.

The Police are also being targeted by the military as the police are traditionally Erdogan supporters and hold his extreme values. That is the reason for the gunfights and clashes between these two groups.

I dont know supporting a military coup in an allied nation is something ridiculous ugh....

Dont forget that erdogan was voted in by majority of the turks (even though there voting laws are hard for the opposition)

What a sad day for Turkey, i hope that inocente people do not get hurt.  The world is to much dangerous nowsday.
War do not solve anything. People must talk aka negotiate !

Was that before or after he put all opposing journalists in jail? I always mix up things there...

And risk being jailed for insulting Erdogan?! :D

 ;D ;D ;D Just another game and attempt  made by Fethullah Gulen supporters in army the man who has reactions with Hillary Clinton also and asked to be returned back to Turkey from USA.They attempted the coup after the announce of an operation will be started by Turkish Police against these terrorist group. They just tried to make chaos but people took their flags and standed against them after Recep Tayyip Erdogan's call and Turkish police now started to arrest the military members who attempted for coup and also a helicopter of army is destroyed.Just was a show tonight well organised and marketed by central media who works for profit of elites and politicians but had no result for them

It seems ridiculous, but the West was supporting Syrian rebels only a couple of years ago, in their fight against Al-Assad. It's not that out of the ordinary.

edit: not an allied nation, but still noteworthy.

That is nothing new and is happening for a long time now in turkey.
But this is a problem which the turkish people should solve by themself with democracy and the rule of law.
If the military coup succeed there will be a time of quasi dictatorship because that is what a military government is... please think about the consequences.

And btw. should the coup not succeed then this event will give erdogan a huge political power up, which he will use to fight every opposition left and to strengthen his islamic agenda over turkey.

It seems that turkey wil move away from democracy for sure - atleast for the near future.

Edit:

@protokol

Yeah, but turkey is a nato member state and additionaly has strong political and economical links with the eu. That would be on a whole new level.

I agree, and I have no evidence for foreign involvement, just a hunch.

My comment earlier was mainly a follow-on in my agreement that a successful coup would not create an "islamic state ruled by the military" but, as you said, the opposite.

This would IMO greatly benefit the West, which is why I speculate western involvement.

Yeah i fully agree, the west would very likely profit in the long run.


Edit:

I really hope intelligence and humanism will prevail tonight and in the coming days in turkey.
It would be catastrophic to see another break out of a civil war.


Right now it seems government sources are stating that the coup failed and is over(german news).

Erdogan's days were numbered from the moment he humiliated Netenyahoo on the world stage just after the Mavi Marmara thing.  I expected him to go down like Qaddafi or Saddam and that is still quite possibly his fate.

Erdogan's plane about to land in Istanbul https://www.flightradar24.com/THY8456/a5a3952 (https://www.flightradar24.com/THY8456/a5a3952)

Grand National Assembly (Parliament building has been bombed multiple times. 12 people injured, 2 critical.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cncd8rIXYAEe0Ao.jpg

CNN Turkey building taken over by soldiers.

Just another tank driving over a car with protestors clinging to it...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnch93DWIAE6zvx.jpg

LInk to CNN Turk being taken over : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ&feature=youtu.be)

Explosions right now @atatürk airport and ankara (german news)

It is not over yet

Twitter is online for turkey again

German news shows live stream of cnn türk which was stormed by soldiers

Shots fired in/outside CNN Turk building

These barbarians cut throat of a Turkish soldier. Erdogan is the worst guy in whole Middle East. He needs to be stopped. They called themselves Turkish but they brutally kill private soldiers. All these organisations made for Erdogan to be president and control the whole country until he dies.

http://haber.sol.org.tr/sites/default/files/styles/newsimagestyle_615x410/public/gj4.jpg?itok=aCMElFqT

I'd guess that Obama and much of Western Europe helped Erdogan survive this attempt. They tend to be on the side of "radical muslim values."

They're just following the example of their prophet. Erdogan is what the barbarians want and what they deserve. Fuck 'em.

That's a terrible anti-Islamic statement, since the only way "intelligence" and "humanism" could prevail in Turkey is if they stopped following the example of an insane illiterate violent pedophile "prophet." In other words, I approve of your sentiments for once.

The Turkish army started this coup because of radical Muslim values promoted by Erdogan.
They tried, like several times already in the history of Turkey, bring back secularism and democracy.
This time without success.
Erdogan is not democrat but dictator (no freedom for press, Kurds etc.).
Unfortunately, after this event, there is no other power in Turkey which can seriously challenge him and protect freedom and democracy in Turkey.

Erdogan is both a "democrat" and a "dictator."

Most Turks vote for an Islamic authoritarian dictatorship every chance they get, and this is what they're getting.

Much like you Germans vote to be invaded by an Islamic front every chance they get, and as a result you Germans are being invaded by an Islamic front.

Fascism is popular. It's the most likely outcome of true democracy.

The Turkey coup d'etat was a deliberate false flag by Erdogan to cement his power

It's simple, really.

Erdogan was struggling with approval lately, thus he orchestrated a coup during which, inexplicably, a lot civilians were injured, killed or at least fired upon (in contrast to the past 4 coups, where the military focus was solely on government).

Now he has a legitimate reason to cut civil liberties even more, suppress all opposition and become a de-facto dictator with little resistance from the international community.

And since he smack down a coup by dangerous psychos killing civilians and not a legitimate opposition, he will walk away the hero protecting his people.

Edit: Also consider how quickly this ended and the small part of the military that was involved. All past coups have been orchestrated nation-wide by huge portions of the military.

Yeah, its suspicious and raises alot of questions.

A conspiracy theory but what I'm sure is Erdogan is not the right person for Turkey's leadership and is suffering.

seems over 2500 judges and state attorneys were jailed or fired during the day.

seems erdogan is cleaning his home.

Erdogan should not lead any country. What has been happening in Turkey so far is very evil.

The problem is that the whole government is pretty much corrupted. You can't get rid of the leader when all his underlings are vying for him. And you can't take out a whole parliament.

People just didn't to risk losing their jobs or being jailed if they join the coup.

Yeah. "Cleaning".

Am I the only one who regrets the coup failed? The army at the power in Turkey would be far better than the Islamist extremist Erdogan...

   Well, Turkey is getting away from Europe approaching to Middle East.

It was part of a plan. They kicked out all opposing views, nobody say anything after this incident. You'll see next week everybody will start discussing presidency system in media. This was a risky game but Erdogan gambled big and won.

In fact, Turkey never really was part of Europe.
Their mentality, culture, tradition, history etc. is much more connected with Asia than Europe.
It's obvious that even many countries in EU seriously doubt should Turkey ever become part of EU?
Such thing, as military coup, it's not possible in Europe any more.
Their democratic standard is weaker than in europe, even behind Albania or Kosovo.
Turkish society really have serious issues right now and nobody can help them to solve it.
I hope that Turkey will not accept radical Islam now, like neighbor countries around.

There are secular parts and people in Turkey, it's not like It's an Islamic kingdom. Yes the government is corrupt but Turkey was found as a full secular and modern country against all kinds of superstitions it was a modern European country back then but Turkey is pretty mixed right now, both secularists and Islamists.

Biggest issue in my opinion is turkish people. And i really mean it. I saw it with my eyes yesterday. After such an unfortunate situation like coup(fake or real doesnt matter), government called people by announcing from mosques every hour and they killed those  young soldiers who didnt even know why they were there. Turkish military soldiers are beaten, tortured and murdered on streets by people and those murderers are claimed as worriors,saviors of democrasy and erdogan turns into a national hero and commander soon. This is madness.

Indeed. Not everyone here is like that but we've seen those people yesterday... Killing innocent privates shouting Allahuaqbar and stuff. This is just pure madness. And thte call to prayers and Salas, telling people to go out on the streets were so dumb as well. And those people who killed those soldiers think that they're the guardiands of the democracy and celebrating today.

Well, after this one, I clearly don't want to live in Europe anymore. The shit gonna hit the fan hard, Europeans will pay for the USA mistakes and it gonna be bloody :/

Soon reaching boiling point... There will be no escape for the traitors... Even the venerable F15 can eliminate any private island for underage girls party or what ever the speed or stealth of their private jets... They will need to land sooner or later... And don't expect to be welcome anywhere once exposed. The truth will be revealed, and no need of a messahia... Raw data: insanely long chains of 1's and 0's... The power of analytics...

wtf are you even talking about? Oo
Clearly you've got some problems man. You seem to believe all those things are some parts of a great plan... Whereas it's just obviously a shitty system collapsing. Capitalism is dying and will takeEurope with its death. And damn I'm so glad at seeing it dead for good.

You are right, I remember gezi park event, completely different people. I cant believe how public can have such different faces.It reminded me Pm's words from that event sayin" if i call that 50% population waiting home bla bla bla" and thaught finally they were called and thats the result.. (its just what i thaught when i heard prayers looped)

Yeah man, most of those people at the street are just disgusting brainwashed people, I don't know what to say. They even killed and lynched surrendered soldiers who haven't been told that there'll be a coup attempt, while saying 'Ya Allah Bismillah Allahuaqbar'

There is not one type of Turkish citizen, white turks and others.Majority of the Turkish people migrated to Europe are the dark ones.I am not a racist, I am stressing the difference because it is about culture and how you look to the world.

witch-hunt has started in turkey so far

Right now government officials (basically anyone who works for the government) are unable to go abroad or use their annual leave.

i think same as you. it was a big show which was staged by the holy president Recep Tayyip ERDOGAN . i guess this show will help him to take over the whole country but i know very well his hubris will spell the death of him for sure.

Corbett and Edmonds together again in something of a follow-up to their exploration of Erdogan and Turkey some months ago.  Anyone who saw that would be entirely unsurprised by the current rumblings.

Various hypotheses are explored including a new one (to me) by Edmons sumerized as this thing being something of a dry-run to gauge public sentiment and better plan the real McCoy.

Another interesting consideration is the disgussion of the nukes kicking around in Turkey, especially in light of all the predictive programming about such things 'falling into the hands of terrorists.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpuotIMlY0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpuotIMlY0)

Enjoy!