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Title: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Vinnie Stanley on August 09, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
So it has become clear that cryptodevil does not look at facts but only listens to hearsay before giving red trust to a member. Is this the first time? I doubt that.

You find his red trust left here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=123172

Now it gets interesting, firstly because on his LISK delegate application MrPresident claims he was last active on his so called Phoenix account in April 2017 proof to be found here https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?t=191 but then he claims that the account was hacked well over a year ago which you will find here,,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1511021.msg15860850#msg15860850   why doesn't that make sense to me?




Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=


http://coinig.com/?adr=1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x&msg=this+is+phoenix1969+from+bitcointalk&sig=IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk%3D




To me this is clear cut but I would like to know the opinion of the community because these plonkers have actually reduced my investment by near on 50% with this :( Is it planned, who knows? More facts will no doubt come to light so I will be editing this thread from below the following three lines.







Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 09, 2016, 10:25:22 AM
They must have an agenda. Maybe they want cheap lir, maybe they just want to fud, maybe they're mental but he is for sure abusing his trust. 100%


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Lauda on August 09, 2016, 10:28:04 AM
This is a reputation issue, not a forum one (meta). I like the irony in this one (pictured taken from trust ratings on your profile):

https://i.imgur.com/jMrzP4y.png

Update: I did say something constructive, and which was that the thread was placed in the wrong sub-forum. It is currently in the right one, and no the screenshot isn't off-topic either.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Vinnie Stanley on August 09, 2016, 10:44:46 AM
This is a reputation issue, not a forum one (meta). I like the irony in this one (pictured taken from trust ratings on your profile):

https://i.imgur.com/jMrzP4y.png



I like how you avoid evidence and go straight off topic. As you will see this isn't about me and my investment which is the 2btc risked when that dude was fudding away, which is why I wrote risked 2btc OK. So before going offtopic again mr staff member maybe read the damn thread and comment if you have something constructive to say and not just show us your signature.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: sweeeter on August 09, 2016, 11:20:39 AM
i ask to be shown proof the account stolen on the main lir thread and none was given.
this is very nasty game plan from these memebers..
i look on this thread and clear the account not stolen.
why are they doing this to bril project that delivers on everything they say  :'(


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 09, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
I asked for the same and none given. CD is looking like a alt of mr president right now.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Quickseller on August 09, 2016, 02:17:50 PM
I am not sure that Phoenix1969 is a sold account, but his partner is almost certainly purchased.

I think the reasoning for the fake sale, and fake claim that the account has been hacked is that he is trying to protect his identity as his Dox is fairly easy to find, and he is planning on scamming with his site very soon.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: suchmoon on August 09, 2016, 04:39:16 PM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 12:40:39 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: suchmoon on August 10, 2016, 12:48:16 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

If the goal is to prove that the owner of the account and the owner of the address is the same person - yes, a date is required (or some other unique-to-the-particular-situation piece of info). Otherwise the message could have been purchased with the account or even copied from wherever the previous owner may have posted it.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: eddie13 on August 10, 2016, 12:52:21 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

Yes or I could just copy+paste that next year and claim his account.. You should not sign such generic messages because now anybody can use that..


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 01:11:21 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

Yes or I could just copy+paste that next year and claim his account.. You should not sign such generic messages because now anybody can use that..

I guess anyone can, but if they are asked to move btc from that address they cant so the signature can bu used but also debunked at the same time if its being used by a fraud. right?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: eddie13 on August 10, 2016, 01:25:14 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

Yes or I could just copy+paste that next year and claim his account.. You should not sign such generic messages because now anybody can use that..

I guess anyone can, but if they are asked to move btc from that address they cant so the signature can bu used but also debunked at the same time if its being used by a fraud. right?

Unless the scam victim buys it as a proper signature.. It will pass verification no matter who presents it.. 


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Phoenix1969 on August 10, 2016, 04:16:20 AM
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

Yes or I could just copy+paste that next year and claim his account.. You should not sign such generic messages because now anybody can use that..

I guess anyone can, but if they are asked to move btc from that address they cant so the signature can bu used but also debunked at the same time if its being used by a fraud. right?
Moving on, Phoenix signs a message from the address posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302585.msg13512991#msg13512991 8months ago.

address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - this is phoenix1969 from bitcointalk
signature -

Code:
IDliHNKKvNbEemSxK2QTTrB4pBFdhJT67G5UeBqDgc9kCbfnHjzvXPcUUaDb7iPLGMS8PkzDYGFzee3l7HMx3rk=

Is there are reason why the signed message didn't include a date?

Are they supposed to include a date?

Yes or I could just copy+paste that next year and claim his account.. You should not sign such generic messages because now anybody can use that..

I guess anyone can, but if they are asked to move btc from that address they cant so the signature can bu used but also debunked at the same time if its being used by a fraud. right?

Unless the scam victim buys it as a proper signature.. It will pass verification no matter who presents it.. 

As requested with a date,
address - 1BcaSzxNu9PCe9McRpnK7winWCei35W89x
message - I am Phoenix1969 8/10/2016
signature -
Code:
HyFBhW1Ke+3NgjT5p2KXs8LxmMJwHvxaAP4t/tiC/DvnSbPUIt1grV3ZiYqj8fGj1eIgtJYloYiISu7IOxTChFI=


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Quickseller on August 10, 2016, 04:30:17 AM
I will just leave this here:

The thread is moderated and I'm happy to report that not one single post has been deleted since its conception.
This is not a self-moderated thread lol.

I also noticed that you did not address my allegations of you being a sold account, of the OP being a sold account, of your entire team actually being "one person", of the use of multiple sockpuppets in this, and other threads, of recycling BTC to make it appear as though you have raised more money then you actually have. Do you plan on addressing any of these allegations?

We'd appreciate if you leave your allegations at the door.

Neither my account nor Shogdite are bought accounts and if you did even the slightest bit of research you would see I am active in other communities as well. If you think one person could do all of this you must be insane. There's far too much work to be done for it to have all been done by one person so that idea goes completely out the window.

Yes, we have been moving around BTC. We offer perks and rewards some of which will require us to secure fiat. We're not here to gamble on the price of BTC. Had we not been liquidating, we would've been hit even harder with the downward swing from the high 700's to what is now the mid 600's so I'm sure our investors our glad we took this approach.

In the next day or two, we will gladly make a post containing the majority of the BTC raised so far with a signed message. I assume this will be satisfactory?
I started on BitcoinTalk over a year ago, and when I first started here I asked a friend to use an account because there was an inherent difference between using a newbie account and a more well established account. A friend of mine at the time provided me with one for free and I started joining signature campaigns and using it prominently on the forums.

I have no knowledge of the history of the account other than of when I started using it. I've not claimed to steal anyone's identity; Where have I claimed to be Eric Hansen?

I am Phoenix1969, an anonymous internet persona and what more would you expect from someone going into a a grey-area gambling project? Would you go in plastering your name all over the internet? Probably not.

Here are the facts, I've done nothing other then help deliver for the LIR project since I've been here. The history of this account is irrelevant as to whether LIR is a scam or not. If it was, as many people have stated we would've taken the 450 BTC and left. Instead, we have stuck here building our product, reworking our site for a more professional look and the results are paying off. Just yesterday, we had almost 100 new users unique by IP address sign up and test the site out.

I don't get it, we've gone through two new designs, we've implemented various bug fixes and patches to our site, ran a tournament for which everyone was paid for, started running a second tournament, started marketing with a Twitter advertising firm, we've ran a signature campaign for which everyone who was suppose to get paid got paid and now Shogdite and Jigar are working on developing a plethora of new content - Where's the scam in all of this?

I ask that the red trust is removed immediately because it's completely uncalled for. You call this a scam for which you have absolutely no basis other then the origins of my account. On the contrary had you looked at our project you would see we've delivered and are continuing to develop a working product. It's a blatant misuse of a power.

Anyways, feel free to think whatever you want of me, but LIR is here to stay and so am I.

The quotes are accurate.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 05:01:30 AM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Quickseller on August 10, 2016, 05:05:52 AM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.
phoenix1969 said in June that his account was not purchased. He said today that he received the account from a "friend" as a "gift" several months ago.

The little blurb that phoenix1969 has up about himself matches how the Eric guy (the original owner of the account) can be described, and it is most likely that no other person can be described in a similar way:
Quote
Phoenix1969
Marketing Director, Media Management, Networking
phoenix1969@letitride.io
Phoenix1969 was born in the USA and studied post-secondary at Ohio State University. He's a hard working entrepreneur who is a huge fan and supporter of the LISK project and hopes to work with Shogdite on finding applications of LISK relevant to the LetItRide project.
http://archive.is/PWZcv#selection-887.0-899.269


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 05:15:53 AM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.
phoenix1969 said in June that his account was not purchased. He said today that he received the account from a "friend" as a "gift" several months ago.

The little blurb that phoenix1969 has up about himself matches how the Eric guy (the original owner of the account) can be described, and it is most likely that no other person can be described in a similar way:
Quote
Phoenix1969
Marketing Director, Media Management, Networking
phoenix1969@letitride.io
Phoenix1969 was born in the USA and studied post-secondary at Ohio State University. He's a hard working entrepreneur who is a huge fan and supporter of the LISK project and hopes to work with Shogdite on finding applications of LISK relevant to the LetItRide project.
http://archive.is/PWZcv#selection-887.0-899.269

Its not purchased if someone gave it to him is it?

If I give you a cake did you buy it or did I, or did my wife at the grocery store earlier today?



Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Phoenix1969 on August 10, 2016, 05:22:06 AM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.
phoenix1969 said in June that his account was not purchased. He said today that he received the account from a "friend" as a "gift" several months ago.

The little blurb that phoenix1969 has up about himself matches how the Eric guy (the original owner of the account) can be described, and it is most likely that no other person can be described in a similar way:
Quote
Phoenix1969
Marketing Director, Media Management, Networking
phoenix1969@letitride.io
Phoenix1969 was born in the USA and studied post-secondary at Ohio State University. He's a hard working entrepreneur who is a huge fan and supporter of the LISK project and hopes to work with Shogdite on finding applications of LISK relevant to the LetItRide project.
http://archive.is/PWZcv#selection-887.0-899.269

I described myself as the arbitrary identity associated with this account. I never once stated that I was Eric Hansen thus I have not impersonated anyone. Since joining BitcoinTalk I have learned much about the technology, markets and the psychology behind advertising. It's obvious to me that the Lisk platform is of great use to the LIR project as it can be utilized to decentralize aspects of LIR. Technology such as Lisk and Etherum don't come along often so when it does it's not hard to see why I would be a fan of and support such a project.

I haven't lied about anything but draw your own conclusions. This is the last time I'm going to address these allegations and demand that the red trust put on my account by cryptodevil be removed. I have even stated I am willing to edit the signature or title of this account to state that Eric Hansen is not Phoenix1969, at least not anymore he isn't if that will put him at ease.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Quickseller on August 10, 2016, 05:27:22 AM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.
phoenix1969 said in June that his account was not purchased. He said today that he received the account from a "friend" as a "gift" several months ago.

The little blurb that phoenix1969 has up about himself matches how the Eric guy (the original owner of the account) can be described, and it is most likely that no other person can be described in a similar way:
Quote
Phoenix1969
Marketing Director, Media Management, Networking
phoenix1969@letitride.io
Phoenix1969 was born in the USA and studied post-secondary at Ohio State University. He's a hard working entrepreneur who is a huge fan and supporter of the LISK project and hopes to work with Shogdite on finding applications of LISK relevant to the LetItRide project.
http://archive.is/PWZcv#selection-887.0-899.269

I described myself as the arbitrary identity associated with this account. I never once stated that I was Eric Hansen thus I have not impersonated anyone. Since joining BitcoinTalk I have learned much about the technology, markets and the psychology behind advertising. It's obvious to me that the Lisk platform is of great use to the LIR project as it can be utilized to decentralize aspects of LIR. Technology such as Lisk and Etherum don't come along often so when it does it's not hard to see why I would be a fan of and support such a project.

I haven't lied about anything but draw your own conclusions. This is the last time I'm going to address these allegations and demand that the red trust put on my account by cryptodevil be removed. I have even stated I am willing to edit the signature or title of this account to state that Eric Hansen is not Phoenix1969, at least not anymore he isn't if that will put him at ease.
Is the entire resume that you wrote about yourself factually accurate? Is any of it factually accurate?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: cryptodevil on August 10, 2016, 10:54:07 AM
I described myself as the arbitrary identity associated with this account. . .I haven't lied about anything

Look at the title of this thread, dipshit. It pretty much encapsulates the nature of the very fraud you are trying to play down the significance of:
Quote
CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.

You are not a Legendary member, you're just using the account of one to make other people think you are a Legendary member.

That you have done so as part of the process of convincing people to send you money is a clear-cut case of fraud for personal gain.



Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: bitseedmike on August 10, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
seems like the lir phoenix never lied. thanks for proving that quickseller.
phoenix1969 said in June that his account was not purchased. He said today that he received the account from a "friend" as a "gift" several months ago.

The little blurb that phoenix1969 has up about himself matches how the Eric guy (the original owner of the account) can be described, and it is most likely that no other person can be described in a similar way:
Quote
Phoenix1969
Marketing Director, Media Management, Networking
phoenix1969@letitride.io
Phoenix1969 was born in the USA and studied post-secondary at Ohio State University. He's a hard working entrepreneur who is a huge fan and supporter of the LISK project and hopes to work with Shogdite on finding applications of LISK relevant to the LetItRide project.
http://archive.is/PWZcv#selection-887.0-899.269

I described myself as the arbitrary identity associated with this account. I never once stated that I was Eric Hansen thus I have not impersonated anyone. Since joining BitcoinTalk I have learned much about the technology, markets and the psychology behind advertising. It's obvious to me that the Lisk platform is of great use to the LIR project as it can be utilized to decentralize aspects of LIR. Technology such as Lisk and Etherum don't come along often so when it does it's not hard to see why I would be a fan of and support such a project.

I haven't lied about anything but draw your own conclusions. This is the last time I'm going to address these allegations and demand that the red trust put on my account by cryptodevil be removed. I have even stated I am willing to edit the signature or title of this account to state that Eric Hansen is not Phoenix1969, at least not anymore he isn't if that will put him at ease.

So are you going to return this account to it's original owner now that he has reported it as stolen?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 06:51:19 PM
Can I get a picture of all of you in bed sucking eachother off and make sure monkeynutz is in the middle on the bunch.

 ;D

If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

You all abuse your trust and I'm going to be leaving everyone on this thread who is defending Cryptodevil bad trust and let people know you could all even be the same person. they will all be tagged together.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 10, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
Can I get a picture of all of you in bed sucking eachother off and make sure monkeynutz is in the middle on the bunch.

 ;D

If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

You all abuse your trust and I'm going to be leaving everyone on this thread who is defending Cryptodevil bad trust and let people know you could all even be the same person. they will all be tagged together.
Bro, you can get banned from this forum for trolling, and you are straddling the line.  You remember codishmumu, fwdxlsh, and the others?  That's exactly what happened to them.  If you threaten to leave indiscriminate feedback for members, that might be crossing the line.  Just sayin.  I think cryptodevil is a shit sucking prick, but he's been known to be right before.  If you disagree,  leave your arguments in this thread.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 07:06:37 PM
Can I get a picture of all of you in bed sucking eachother off and make sure monkeynutz is in the middle on the bunch.

 ;D

If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

You all abuse your trust and I'm going to be leaving everyone on this thread who is defending Cryptodevil bad trust and let people know you could all even be the same person. they will all be tagged together.
Bro, you can get banned from this forum for trolling, and you are straddling the line.  You remember codishmumu, fwdxlsh, and the others?  That's exactly what happened to them.  If you threaten to leave indiscriminate feedback for members, that might be crossing the line.  Just sayin.  I think cryptodevil is a shit sucking prick, but he's been known to be right before.  If you disagree,  leave your arguments in this thread.

I've leave the feedback They as a team or as one or whatever have been trying to wreck one of my investments. They deserve the trust I left for them and I will stand behind it every time.

Ive had enough with the games that they are playing and people need to be warned that its quite possible that they are all one and the same or at least all working together to further their own agenda.

Edit.

He may be right sometimes as we all are, but he is wrong here. He is blindly fighting for someone who sold his account, let it be used for a year, created a new account, used the old one he had no access too as proof that he's trustworthy to be a lisk delegate ect ect ect.

That's the most dirty shit I ever seen.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: suchmoon on August 10, 2016, 07:10:31 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 07:13:07 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.

No no no no no no no!


Phoenix admitted he is not the original owner BUT that does not mean the account was stolen. Not even close.

I bet he sold the account because he was broke and needed a redneck beer and a pack of malboros and now he wants to cry wolf.

Fuck that shit and fuck him! Straight up his ass!


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 07:14:53 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.

And after looking at your post history and your trust feedback I'm starting to think you also may be a shill of  MrPresident, CryptoDevil , Quickseller ect.

If I get that feeling i'll also be leaving you red trust.




Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: MrPresident on August 10, 2016, 07:20:55 PM
The account is stolen, period.
The sig is invalid because of the date of the post. Any moron should be able to see that.
The Phoenix1969 account was mine, and stolen, point blank.
I furnished everything peeps need to verify that.
This is moot, and you are digging yourselves a deeper hole.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: suchmoon on August 10, 2016, 07:22:13 PM
And after looking at your post history and your trust feedback I'm starting to think you also may be a shill of  MrPresident, CryptoDevil , Quickseller ect.

If I get that feeling i'll also be leaving you red trust.

Yes, there is no doubt that me and Quickseller are tight. Make sure to let me know when you neg me so that I could cry myself to sleep.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: MrPresident on August 10, 2016, 07:22:38 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.
theymos has yet to get my pm.
rest assure, he will.
I never posted bitcoin addresses, and you can see the post was edited. busted.
You guys have no clue who these assholes even are because none of them have offered an ounce of identification. They took your shit under a false identity.
Peeps see ICO and just throw money without an ounce of research. sad.
I however posted my hawaiian id, and showed you I have control of the linked accounts.
Do you think I'm putting myself through this for shits & giggles?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: BigBadBull on August 10, 2016, 07:35:01 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.
theymos has yet to get my pm.
rest assure, he will.
I never posted bitcoin addresses, and you can see the post was edited. busted.
You guys have no clue who these assholes even are because none of them have offered an ounce of identification. They took your shit under a false identity.
Peeps see ICO and just throw money without an ounce of research. sad.
I however posted my hawaiian id, and showed you I have control of the linked accounts.
Do you think I'm putting myself through this for shits & giggles?

YOU ARE A LIAR.

It's highly likely you sold your account because you're a broke chump and now you want it back.

but you'll never get it back because you can never prove you did not sell it and whoever has it now can prove he has had it and been posting with it for a year, while you were posting from your new account.

you wont win this because you're a fucking liar.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: bitseedmike on August 10, 2016, 07:50:22 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.
theymos has yet to get my pm.
rest assure, he will.
I never posted bitcoin addresses, and you can see the post was edited. busted.
You guys have no clue who these assholes even are because none of them have offered an ounce of identification. They took your shit under a false identity.
Peeps see ICO and just throw money without an ounce of research. sad.
I however posted my hawaiian id, and showed you I have control of the linked accounts.
Do you think I'm putting myself through this for shits & giggles?

YOU ARE A LIAR.

It's highly likely you sold your account because you're a broke chump and now you want it back.

but you'll never get it back because you can never prove you did not sell it and whoever has it now can prove he has had it and been posting with it for a year, while you were posting from your new account.

you wont win this because you're a fucking liar.

Given your signature, does that mean you have a dick for a brain?


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Quickseller on August 10, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.
theymos has yet to get my pm.
rest assure, he will.
I never posted bitcoin addresses, and you can see the post was edited. busted.
You guys have no clue who these assholes even are because none of them have offered an ounce of identification. They took your shit under a false identity.
Peeps see ICO and just throw money without an ounce of research. sad.
I however posted my hawaiian id, and showed you I have control of the linked accounts.
Do you think I'm putting myself through this for shits & giggles?

YOU ARE A LIAR.

It's highly likely you sold your account because you're a broke chump and now you want it back.

but you'll never get it back because you can never prove you did not sell it and whoever has it now can prove he has had it and been posting with it for a year, while you were posting from your new account.

you wont win this because you're a fucking liar.
I think that it does really not matter if Phoenix1969 is a sold account or not. He outright said that his account was not purchased several months ago and now is saying that he is not the original owner.

He also said that his "partner" was not using a purchased account, which is also clearly not true, in addition to the fact that Phoenix1969 was looking to purchase multiple "trusted" accounts in the months prior to starting LIR. Several accounts that match the description of what he was trying to buy have posted in the LIR thread.

The list of shady things about LIR does not end there and is very long.

As I have previously mentioned, I believe that Phoenix1969 faked the sale of his account in order to put some amount of doubt in who is really behind the account once he outright scams his "investors". There is a decent amount of evidence to back this up.


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: MrPresident on August 10, 2016, 09:38:33 PM
use the wayback machine
They just lie and lie and lie


Title: Re: CRYPTODEVIL trust abuse on LEGENDARY member.
Post by: Vinnie Stanley on August 12, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
If the account was stolen and your fagfriend could prove it it would be back in his hands. ut he cant prove it. Can he?

Phoenix1969 already admitted that it's not his original account and there is only one person making a claim to it. While theymos probably wouldn't return the account without a signed message the existing proof is sufficient to conclude that the account changed hands, and likely not amicably.

You need to keep up, your bagholding colleagues have already moved away from the account ownership dispute and are now happily chanting "we don't care who the dev is as long as they're delivering stuff". There is an obvious flaw with this argument but I'll let you figure that out on your own.
theymos has yet to get my pm.
rest assure, he will.
I never posted bitcoin addresses, and you can see the post was edited. busted.
You guys have no clue who these assholes even are because none of them have offered an ounce of identification. They took your shit under a false identity.
Peeps see ICO and just throw money without an ounce of research. sad.
I however posted my hawaiian id, and showed you I have control of the linked accounts.
Do you think I'm putting myself through this for shits & giggles?

YOU ARE A LIAR.

It's highly likely you sold your account because you're a broke chump and now you want it back.

but you'll never get it back because you can never prove you did not sell it and whoever has it now can prove he has had it and been posting with it for a year, while you were posting from your new account.

you wont win this because you're a fucking liar.
I think that it does really not matter if Phoenix1969 is a sold account or not. He outright said that his account was not purchased several months ago and now is saying that he is not the original owner.

He also said that his "partner" was not using a purchased account, which is also clearly not true, in addition to the fact that Phoenix1969 was looking to purchase multiple "trusted" accounts in the months prior to starting LIR. Several accounts that match the description of what he was trying to buy have posted in the LIR thread.

The list of shady things about LIR does not end there and is very long.

As I have previously mentioned, I believe that Phoenix1969 faked the sale of his account in order to put some amount of doubt in who is really behind the account once he outright scams his "investors". There is a decent amount of evidence to back this up.

quickscammer back to talk shit, surprising? Not really. It matters that the account was sold because the president claims it to be hacked and has been proven to be a liar as well. Who is going to say yes the account is brought people? I doubt anyone would be doing and that and especially you haha.
Alarm bells, accounts have posted on a very popular 270 page thread... I find it really hard to sink into my boots that you assholes believe pushing the anonymous devs to run is going to benefit anyone, who does that benefit? That is right the devs who walk with hundreds of btcs.
Bravo you are all real hero's!!!!!!!!!! I have had enough of hearing all your carry on shit and it obvious when but buddies start humping nothing will get between those welded buttcheeks and the penis.