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Title: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Avenger101 on August 23, 2016, 09:25:01 AM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/26/nearly-2000-have-died-in-dutertes-war-on-drugs-in-the-philippines-one-is-a-5-year-old-girl/
http://time.com/4462352/rodrigo-duterte-drug-war-drugs-philippines-killing/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS


On June 1, 2016 Duterte Offers 3 Million php Bounty to Druglords and dealers
http://www.rappler.com/nation/134924-duterte-bounty-drug-lords

Thousands surrenders
http://www.elitereaders.com/thousands-drug-dealers-addicts-peddlers-surrender-scared-badass-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte/


65,000 drug pushers surrenders
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/573837/news/nation/pnp-chief-65-000-drug-pushers-users-have-surrendered-since-crackdown

Drug lords killed:


Dragon
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan


Big time Chinese Drug lord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798118/big-time-chinese-drug-lord-shot-dead-by-police-in-valenzuela-city


Jaguar
http://www.tahonews.com/cebu-top-drug-lord-jaguar-killed-in-las-pinas-raid-mayor-tommy-osmena-reveals/


Bohol Druglords
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794834/suspected-drug-lord-shot-dead-in-tagbilaran-city
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/568900/news/regions/cops-kill-another-suspected-drug-lord-4-others-in-bohol


Leyte Druglord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/805414/alleged-drug-lord-in-leyte-prison-shot-dead-during-raid

Druglords that surrenders

http://www.filipinewsph.com/2016/08/quezon-biggest-drug-lord-surrenders.html
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/804164/top-cebu-drug-lord-surrenders-to-bato
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/791759/bohol-drug-lord-surrenders-amid-daily-killing-of-traffickers
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/07/16/PDEA-Suspected-drug-lord-Peter-Lim-surrenders-to-Duterte.html
http://www.mb.com.ph/quezons-biggest-drug-lord-athel-alcala-surrenders/


Druglords arrested

http://www.philstar.com/region/2015/03/06/1430654/cidg-8-arrests-one-leytes-big-time-drug-lords-12-others
http://www.rappler.com/nation/142115-alleged-chinese-drug-lord-nabbed-angeles-pampanga


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Fortify on August 23, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
He acts like a psychopath and apparently that's the best leader the Philippines can get? From what I've read, the whole country is in turmoil and basically run by different gangs, so apparently the president will overlook all the other crimes in order to go after anyone related to drugs. Killing people is not solving the problem of poverty, lack of work, religious brainwashing and poor education.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: zenitzz on August 23, 2016, 11:08:47 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: MisO69 on August 23, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: ImHacked on August 23, 2016, 01:47:28 PM
That number refers to the 1800 alleged drug pushers and users.  I never heard of drug lords being killed as the president said those drug lords were not really in the Philippines but from overseas.  They managed to operate because of their connections in the Philippines some were even government officials.  If you will compare that 1800 drug addicts or drug pushers being killed, it has nothing to the rate that those drug addicts have killed.  Those drug addicts raped innocent students, children, sometimes their own flesh, and sometimes their own grandparents.  They even murdered their own families.  So that number of killed drug addicts were nothing compared to their victims.  Do not believe on what news you just saw and heard or articles that you just have read.  Try to live in a country were there are numerous drug addicts live.  You may want this president.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 24, 2016, 05:51:16 PM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

Drug dealers are low life scum. But I disagree with you on drug users. They are the real victims here. They are exploited and harassed by everyone, including the drug peddlers, law enforcement officials, and even religious clergy. Crime is not fueled by the drug addiction. Crime is being fueled by the government's refusal to legalize and regulate drugs.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: xht on August 24, 2016, 10:20:21 PM
The filipino people have a horrific problem with a brutally violent drug trade. They elected a leader who's main promise was to clean up the drug trade. i don't think one countries can cleanout from drugs. how many trilion dollars had spend by all nations to fight drugs on their country.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: groll on August 25, 2016, 08:15:53 AM
It seems impossible to clean or wipeout drugs totally in a country like the Philippines.  Powerful countries still have those drug problems.  But we cannot deny the fact that because of his campaign the number of crime rate in the Philippines lower down compared to last year.  Besides, it is his promise when he was still campaigning that he will destroy this drug problem and it would be bloody.  People most of them who were tired on hearing crimes that made by drug addicts go to his promise and thus elected him as the President. 

That number refers to the killed drug addicts and drug pushers.  And it is good that unlike before, those who were killed were the innocents one and now it is the one who causes the crimes before.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Xester on August 25, 2016, 03:46:28 PM
I think he is not serious with the figure of 100,000 he wishes to kill.  It seems like a joke or to show how serious he was with eliminating drugsnin his country.  It woild be hard for him to do that especially no one or no country have succeeded in doing it.  People will still find ways on how to do their habits.  And it is hard to eliminate drugs if there were a really good protector.  Anyways, let us just wait what will happen to the Philippines.  Itbis too early to judge him.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Avenger101 on August 26, 2016, 03:11:45 AM
I think he is not serious with the figure of 100,000 he wishes to kill.  It seems like a joke or to show how serious he was with eliminating drugsnin his country.  It woild be hard for him to do that especially no one or no country have succeeded in doing it.  People will still find ways on how to do their habits.  And it is hard to eliminate drugs if there were a really good protector.  Anyways, let us just wait what will happen to the Philippines.  Itbis too early to judge him.

But more than 1800 killed in 53 days. And 600,000 drug pushers and users surrendered. There were never in history that this number of who surrender in such short time.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Caladonian on August 26, 2016, 03:16:41 AM
I think he is not serious with the figure of 100,000 he wishes to kill.  It seems like a joke or to show how serious he was with eliminating drugsnin his country.  It woild be hard for him to do that especially no one or no country have succeeded in doing it.  People will still find ways on how to do their habits.  And it is hard to eliminate drugs if there were a really good protector.  Anyways, let us just wait what will happen to the Philippines.  Itbis too early to judge him.

But are more than 1800 killed in 53 days. And 600,000 drug pushers and users surrendered. There were never in history that this number of who surrender in such short time.
because he is serious and he will keep his promised, i just hope that not only small time but those who's in top to be eliminated if the police can kill small time pusher they have a big reason to kill the bigger one too. this would be a great warning if duterte is serious eliminate who's on top and don't let them be jailed and still in control.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Gronthaing on August 26, 2016, 04:34:20 AM
Try to live in a country were there are numerous drug addicts live.  You may want this president.

There are countries that decriminalized drugs when the number of addicts was high. In time that number decreased. And they didn't have to kill thousands of people to do it or have vigilantes killing whoever they choose. Guilty or not. Those countries just invested in treatment for the addicts. And in not alienating them from society more but help them integrate instead.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 26, 2016, 04:44:44 AM


A police officer arrested someone who was caught having more than 10kilos of meth, this suspect was released in no time and this police officer was kicked out of his job, now without a job. this police officer still is lucky that he wasn't shot dead. thats how politicians involved in drugs work here in our country.  After Duterte, addicts were massacred. governemnt officials suspected involved in drugs were kicked out of their positions and was exposed.  Horray!

Government agencies now works well cause if they don't the head of these departments are going to be kicked too.
He's the very best we can have. the previous presidents come and go never did anything  about drugs and problems.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: carriagehoodlum on August 26, 2016, 05:04:30 AM


A police officer arrested someone who was caught having more than 10kilos of meth, this suspect was released in no time and this police officer was kicked out of his job, now without a job. this police officer still is lucky that he wasn't shot dead. thats how politicians involved in drugs work here in our country.  After Duterte, addicts were massacred. governemnt officials suspected involved in drugs were kicked out of their positions and was exposed.  Horray!

Government agencies now works well cause if they don't the head of these departments are going to be kicked too.
He's the very best we can have. the previous presidents come and go never did anything  about drugs and problems.

Yes he's the one of the greatest president inthe philippines.Duterte have more enemy in this drug war like mayors,general even senator but over 15 million Filipinos back to him.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: otrkid70 on August 26, 2016, 08:36:22 AM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

http://time.com/4462382/philippines-duterte-1800-killed-drug-war/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

Wow some serious numbers....if drugs are that bad there maybe he is doing the right thing.  Drugs cause so many Different Violent crimes it is a plague.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: cabron on August 26, 2016, 09:27:53 AM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

http://time.com/4462382/philippines-duterte-1800-killed-drug-war/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

Wow some serious numbers....if drugs are that bad there maybe he is doing the right thing.  Drugs cause so many Different Violent crimes it is a plague.

True. Politicians all over the world have tried to run a war against drugs using different ways but his ways must be really that good that he had planted fear to these individuals to surrender.  Truly salute to this kind of politician. May he be an example to the countries in South America.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: MisO69 on August 26, 2016, 06:41:46 PM
From reading this article it looks like the Philippines has been taken over by ISIS.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37172002 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37172002)

Government sanctioned assassinations of drug dealers and users.. meanwhile..

"Mr Duterte describes it as a pandemic, afflicting millions of his fellow citizens. It is also very profitable. He has listed 150 senior officials, officers and judges linked to the trade. Five police generals, he says, are kingpins of the business. But it is those at the lowest levels of the trade who are targeted by the death squads."

If he isn't targeting the kingpins of this problem then he either has zero power or more likely he is in on the drug trade and getting a cut.




Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 26, 2016, 07:15:15 PM
From reading this article it looks like the Philippines has been taken over by ISIS.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37172002 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37172002)

Government sanctioned assassinations of drug dealers and users.. meanwhile..

"Mr Duterte describes it as a pandemic, afflicting millions of his fellow citizens. It is also very profitable. He has listed 150 senior officials, officers and judges linked to the trade. Five police generals, he says, are kingpins of the business. But it is those at the lowest levels of the trade who are targeted by the death squads."

If he isn't targeting the kingpins of this problem then he either has zero power or more likely he is in on the drug trade and getting a cut.


The media always exaggerates everything. Media in the country oppose this guy even before the election but that doesn't stop the people from voting him, that is because the people know this guy can do good than those pretentious politicians. Duterte have done good things more than all the presidents combined since Marcos yet no one ever exaggerates it on the news.

the article doesn't mention the drug lords killed.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: yueno on August 28, 2016, 03:54:00 AM
Duterte War On Drugs is definitely the only solution in our country right now because on the previous administrations drug addicts kill innocent person, rape women, holdup stores, banks and etc. And other heinous crime activities. So people in the philippines shout justice on all victims by this kind of people including me. On the other hand president duterte promise he will eradicate this drugs and crime in our society in 3-6 months so i guess he is true to his promise walk to talk. Maybe we dont see the other kind of duterte's leadership a good side of him thats why people in davao love him so much. To see is too believe. So I want to see his other side after six months. And I wish of his health issue because he is too old for this job. We have a great leader now. :)


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 04:00:54 AM


A police officer arrested someone who was caught having more than 10kilos of meth, this suspect was released in no time and this police officer was kicked out of his job, now without a job. this police officer still is lucky that he wasn't shot dead. thats how politicians involved in drugs work here in our country.  After Duterte, addicts were massacred. governemnt officials suspected involved in drugs were kicked out of their positions and was exposed.  Horray!

Government agencies now works well cause if they don't the head of these departments are going to be kicked too.
He's the very best we can have. the previous presidents come and go never did anything  about drugs and problems.

Yes he's the one of the greatest president inthe philippines.Duterte have more enemy in this drug war like mayors,general even senator but over 15 million Filipinos back to him.

I am definitely not surprised with these posts. People who are not capable of rational thinking will continue to support Duterte. The drug kingpins and mafia members are still roaming free, continuing with their business. It is the poor drug addicts and slum dwellers, who are getting killed by these lunatic vigilante squads. 


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on August 28, 2016, 04:21:30 AM
People in my area are all commenting to Du30 (Duterte) like "Oh my God, does he even have a heart?" They don't realize that killing a drug addict/pusher is basically just one parasite of a society killed. To be honest, I also think the only way to end the addiction and the market of drugs is to kill the ones that are on top. This basically comes to the analogy of cutting a grass. If you want a grass to not grow anymore again someday, you have to pull its roots away from the soil.

I also want to +1 Du30's message that he'll end the Drug related stuffs in 6 months. It's been just a month or so but if you take a look at it, the Philippines is much much better than what it was before. People in Manila (one of the most ghetto-ish places in the Philippines) can now take pictures in public places and aren't afraid of using their cellphones in the streets anymore. They know that the chances of their gadgets getting snatched has been lessen.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 04:33:02 AM
People in my area are all commenting to Du30 (Duterte) like "Oh my God, does he even have a heart?" They don't realize that killing a drug addict/pusher is basically just one parasite of a society killed. To be honest, I also think the only way to end the addiction and the market of drugs is to kill the ones that are on top. This basically comes to the analogy of cutting a grass. If you want a grass to not grow anymore again someday, you have to pull its roots away from the soil.

People take drugs for a variety of reasons. In North Korea, they take methamphetamine, as the legal painkillers such as Ibuprofen are either too expensive, or not available to everyone. Some terminal stage cancer patients take cannabis, to alleviate the extreme pain. Exterminating all of them is not the ideal solution, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on August 28, 2016, 04:40:27 AM
People in my area are all commenting to Du30 (Duterte) like "Oh my God, does he even have a heart?" They don't realize that killing a drug addict/pusher is basically just one parasite of a society killed. To be honest, I also think the only way to end the addiction and the market of drugs is to kill the ones that are on top. This basically comes to the analogy of cutting a grass. If you want a grass to not grow anymore again someday, you have to pull its roots away from the soil.

People take drugs for a variety of reasons. In North Korea, they take methamphetamine, as the legal painkillers such as Ibuprofen are either too expensive, or not available to everyone. Some terminal stage cancer patients take cannabis, to alleviate the extreme pain. Exterminating all of them is not the ideal solution, in my opinion.
Apparently, most people here are taking drugs to look cool, because of peer pressure, and because they finally got addicted to it. Medical marijuana isn't a thing here. ;D There might be some people taking marijuana for medication but most of them are rich people that had this recommendation from an international doctor. I might be wrong though but I don't think local doctors would recommend marijuana for treatment since it's illegal and considered as an immoral thing here.

On a side note, Du30 is actually pro-weed. He support it and some huge personalities are supporting it as well. It's not something to look forward to because of our current situation, but who knows? Maybe he'll legalize it once he gets rid of all the drug addicts.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Gronthaing on August 28, 2016, 04:44:19 AM
People in my area are all commenting to Du30 (Duterte) like "Oh my God, does he even have a heart?" They don't realize that killing a drug addict/pusher is basically just one parasite of a society killed.

Parasites of society or not they are still people. And if what is seen in countries that legalized drugs could happen in the philippines, people that can rejoin society and contribute positively if they get help.

To be honest, I also think the only way to end the addiction and the market of drugs is to kill the ones that are on top. This basically comes to the analogy of cutting a grass. If you want a grass to not grow anymore again someday, you have to pull its roots away from the soil.

Problems are that is not what is happening. It is not the ones on top that are being killed. And worse, the problems fueling the drug use and spread aren't the ones being solved by these murders.

I also want to +1 Du30's message that he'll end the Drug related stuffs in 6 months. It's been just a month or so but if you take a look at it, the Philippines is much much better than what it was before. People in Manila (one of the most ghetto-ish places in the Philippines) can now take pictures in public places and aren't afraid of using their cellphones in the streets anymore. They know that the chances of their gadgets getting snatched has been lessen.

Maybe but that comes at great cost. And if the source of the problem is not solved, people in the philippines will probably be paying it every few years.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on August 28, 2016, 04:59:53 AM
People in my area are all commenting to Du30 (Duterte) like "Oh my God, does he even have a heart?" They don't realize that killing a drug addict/pusher is basically just one parasite of a society killed.
Parasites of society or not they are still people. And if what is seen in countries that legalized drugs could happen in the philippines, people that can rejoin society and contribute positively if they get help.
It's not as if they aren't seen as a human being. They were all given a chance to surrender and promise not to be involved in any drug-related incidents again in the future. Look at the title of this thread, there are 600,000 people who have surrendered. Those 600,000 has been given a second chance to live a drug-free life and new doors has been opened to them to be a better person.

To be honest, I also think the only way to end the addiction and the market of drugs is to kill the ones that are on top. This basically comes to the analogy of cutting a grass. If you want a grass to not grow anymore again someday, you have to pull its roots away from the soil.
Problems are that is not what is happening. It is not the ones on top that are being killed. And worse, the problems fueling the drug use and spread aren't the ones being solved by these murders.
Maybe so, maybe not. As I see it, death disconnects us physically from this world. If you are dead, you're not able to use or sell drugs anymore. One less branch of the tree. Back to my previous analogy, if you're going to pull a huge tree from its roots, would you pull it directly from its roots? No, because it's too huge and it'll require such massive force to do that. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to do. You start by taking away the leaves, cutting the branches, and then the trunk until you're left with the roots easy enough to take away from the soil.

TL;DR: You can't just pull a tree out of its roots especially if its a big tree.

I also want to +1 Du30's message that he'll end the Drug related stuffs in 6 months. It's been just a month or so but if you take a look at it, the Philippines is much much better than what it was before. People in Manila (one of the most ghetto-ish places in the Philippines) can now take pictures in public places and aren't afraid of using their cellphones in the streets anymore. They know that the chances of their gadgets getting snatched has been lessen.
Maybe but that comes at great cost. And if the source of the problem is not solved, people in the philippines will probably be paying it every few years.
We shall see, we shall see.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 28, 2016, 05:02:08 AM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 05:09:24 AM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.

Rubbish. Tell me how many of the drug mafia heads have been arrested or murdered so far. Don't know the answer? I will tell you. The number is zero. Only the ordinary slum dwellers and low-end drug peddlers are getting killed. Criminals have no fear, as Duterte himself is a criminal. He is making use of this opportunity to get rid of his rivals.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 28, 2016, 07:16:15 AM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.

Rubbish. Tell me how many of the drug mafia heads have been arrested or murdered so far. Don't know the answer? I will tell you. The number is zero. Only the ordinary slum dwellers and low-end drug peddlers are getting killed. Criminals have no fear, as Duterte himself is a criminal. He is making use of this opportunity to get rid of his rivals.
If thats what you think on Duterte then theres nothing i can do with that. Its your own opinion. Still, we will continue to support Duterte's campaign on war on drugs. Still good even he is only killing those small time. Mafia wont profit if those small time were killed. They are the one using it.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 10:33:55 AM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.

Rubbish. Tell me how many of the drug mafia heads have been arrested or murdered so far. Don't know the answer? I will tell you. The number is zero. Only the ordinary slum dwellers and low-end drug peddlers are getting killed. Criminals have no fear, as Duterte himself is a criminal. He is making use of this opportunity to get rid of his rivals.
If thats what you think on Duterte then theres nothing i can do with that. Its your own opinion. Still, we will continue to support Duterte's campaign on war on drugs. Still good even he is only killing those small time. Mafia wont profit if those small time were killed. They are the one using it.

You need to use your brain. If the small fish is eliminated, then the mafia will soon find someone else to fill the void. In a poor country like Philippines, finding small-time drug peddlers won't be that hard. But the drug prices will increase manyfold, due to the scarcity. Now who is going to gain from the increased prices? The drug mafia itself.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 28, 2016, 10:55:17 AM


A police officer arrested someone who was caught having more than 10kilos of meth, this suspect was released in no time and this police officer was kicked out of his job, now without a job. this police officer still is lucky that he wasn't shot dead. thats how politicians involved in drugs work here in our country.  After Duterte, addicts were massacred. governemnt officials suspected involved in drugs were kicked out of their positions and was exposed.  Horray!

Government agencies now works well cause if they don't the head of these departments are going to be kicked too.
He's the very best we can have. the previous presidents come and go never did anything  about drugs and problems.

Yes he's the one of the greatest president inthe philippines.Duterte have more enemy in this drug war like mayors,general even senator but over 15 million Filipinos back to him.

I am definitely not surprised with these posts. People who are not capable of rational thinking will continue to support Duterte. The drug kingpins and mafia members are still roaming free, continuing with their business. It is the poor drug addicts and slum dwellers, who are getting killed by these lunatic vigilante squads.  

Rational or not. whatever, its frontier justice this time. but where are the kingpins now? They're all hiding and will someday lose all his clients.  No market for them.
Philippines are now making friends with the Chinese lol.. UN and CHR are out of the picture. Whatever they say now are worthless for 90% of the Filipinos are supporting Duterte.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 28, 2016, 10:59:06 AM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.

Rubbish. Tell me how many of the drug mafia heads have been arrested or murdered so far. Don't know the answer? I will tell you. The number is zero. Only the ordinary slum dwellers and low-end drug peddlers are getting killed. Criminals have no fear, as Duterte himself is a criminal. He is making use of this opportunity to get rid of his rivals.
If thats what you think on Duterte then theres nothing i can do with that. Its your own opinion. Still, we will continue to support Duterte's campaign on war on drugs. Still good even he is only killing those small time. Mafia wont profit if those small time were killed. They are the one using it.

You need to use your brain. If the small fish is eliminated, then the mafia will soon find someone else to fill the void. In a poor country like Philippines, finding small-time drug peddlers won't be that hard. But the drug prices will increase manyfold, due to the scarcity. Now who is going to gain from the increased prices? The drug mafia itself.
Haha its just you dont believe our President what do I expect besides your not Filipino. I bet you dont know the personality of Duterte and you only had search about him in the internet. Done here.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Avenger101 on August 28, 2016, 11:55:29 AM
I would not mind having few hundred thousands killed as an example. This people were already dead, This people were zombies.

What matter most is the public would hesitate to use/buy drugs or they end up as the next example.

 


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 12:04:58 PM
I would not mind having few hundred thousands killed as an example. This people were already dead, This people were zombies.

What matter most is the public would hesitate to use/buy drugs or they end up as the next example.

How many people you want to kill? A hundred thousand? A million? or may be 10 million? If you come to know that your brother is using drugs, are you going to kill him too? And you are 100% wrong about the second part. As long as poverty exist, people will continue to work as drug peddlers. It is a choice between getting starved to death, and getting beaten to death by the vigilantes.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: gabmen on August 28, 2016, 12:14:36 PM
i think when you live in a country that is already accustomed to so much crime cause by drugs, you'll eventually look for a leader like duterte. i mean he's been saying all along during the campaign period that if in case he wins, it will be bloody. he's already warned people linked to drugs to stop and if not, well there would be severe consequences. and I think that's one of the reasons that he won hands down. although i don't entirely agree with everything that he does, i think there is evident change that can be felt in the lower levels of society. there are people who say that it's safer to roam the streets now than it was months ago. i think this war or drugs instilled a sense of fear for pushers and users, considering the numbers of those who surrendered.  though again, i don't actually agree entirely because there are people who would take advantage of this. so, i think this war or drugs is actually reaping positive results locally, however it needs to be carefully implemented.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Daniel91 on August 28, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

http://time.com/4462382/philippines-duterte-1800-killed-drug-war/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

I think that he is crazy.
OK, criminals should be behind bars and should defend themselves in the court but shouldn't be killed like animals.
We don't live in jungle and everybody is innocent until proved otherwise.
In Philippines it seems that any citizen with gun can be policeman, judge and killer in the same person.
    


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 28, 2016, 01:07:09 PM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

http://time.com/4462382/philippines-duterte-1800-killed-drug-war/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

I think that he is crazy.
OK, criminals should be behind bars and should defend themselves in the court but shouldn't be killed like animals.
We don't live in jungle and everybody is innocent until proved otherwise.
In Philippines it seems that any citizen with gun can be policeman, judge and killer in the same person.
    

It really doesn't matter what he did and he is doing now.. he can massacre all the drug personalities in the country, all we want is the positive result in the end. Who ever replaces him after the slaughter can do whatever they can to Duterte, they're free to do so even today. In fact the people who disagree to his ways are already trying to win the fight in the US soil and that's just fuck.  ;D


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Viyamore on August 28, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?

http://time.com/4462382/philippines-duterte-1800-killed-drug-war/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS

I think that he is crazy.
OK, criminals should be behind bars and should defend themselves in the court but shouldn't be killed like animals.
We don't live in jungle and everybody is innocent until proved otherwise.
In Philippines it seems that any citizen with gun can be policeman, judge and killer in the same person.
    

It really doesn't matter what he did and he is doing now.. he can massacre all the drug personalities in the country, all we want is the positive result in the end. Who ever replaces him after the slaughter can do whatever they can to Duterte, they're free to do so even today. In fact the people who disagree to his ways are already trying to win the fight in the US soil and that's just fuck.  ;D
Yeah ,he is the only president who made that history ,he even beat the 6years of De Lima that no one surrendered on her .i don't even know how that kind of people on governmemt wons the position .
As Duterte works speak or the  words itself makes an fast action and life changing even for those surrendered on him.it is a very good start also expecting more to surrenders than to fight with cops.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 05:49:30 PM
^^^^ And what Duterte is going to do with these 600,000 "drug peddlers", who have surrendered to the government? How much it is going to cost, to rehabilitate them? At a conservative estimate of $25,000 per person, this exercise may cost somewhere around $15 billion. I am not sure whether the government is having that much funds.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 29, 2016, 01:21:48 AM
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan One of the Kingpin is now dead. Wether its legal operation or not still its proven they can kill not only those small time but also drug lord. Done again here.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Avenger101 on August 29, 2016, 01:36:40 AM
Cebu's Top Drug Lord "Jaguar" Killed

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/571660/news/nation/hundreds-turn-up-for-funeral-of-alleged-drug-lord-jaguar


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 29, 2016, 03:13:39 AM
^^^^ And what Duterte is going to do with these 600,000 "drug peddlers", who have surrendered to the government? How much it is going to cost, to rehabilitate them? At a conservative estimate of $25,000 per person, this exercise may cost somewhere around $15 billion. I am not sure whether the government is having that much funds.

They won't be spending much if they just burn all these drug personalities , won't they?
They are considered dead by their families anyway so why not just put in the concentration camps.

Of course the above is what people who don't support duterte wants to hear.
 Duterte wouldn't do that but perhaps a swift death lol


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Caladonian on August 29, 2016, 04:04:44 AM
^^^^ And what Duterte is going to do with these 600,000 "drug peddlers", who have surrendered to the government? How much it is going to cost, to rehabilitate them? At a conservative estimate of $25,000 per person, this exercise may cost somewhere around $15 billion. I am not sure whether the government is having that much funds.

They won't be spending much if they just burn all these drug personalities , won't they?
They are considered dead by their families anyway so why not just put in the concentration camps.

Of course the above is what people who don't support duterte wants to hear.
 Duterte wouldn't do that but perhaps a swift death lol
i think if one of those big names will be terminated and show to entire country that this campaign is serious and not only small time pushers and user but the big fish, don't let them go to jail because they still using money to bribed and to still in control, im still waiting for the big hunt and fish to be slave and be a big example like generals and mayors if congressman and senator will do as well.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on August 29, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
As long as poverty exist, people will continue to work as drug peddlers.
That is why they will eliminate the poverty later, after they deal with the majority of drug users/pushers.

^^^^ And what Duterte is going to do with these 600,000 "drug peddlers", who have surrendered to the government? How much it is going to cost, to rehabilitate them? At a conservative estimate of $25,000 per person, this exercise may cost somewhere around $15 billion. I am not sure whether the government is having that much funds.
It's very obvious that our country doesn't have that money and even if we did, we won't use that money for rehabilitating the drug users. Those 600,000 drug users were given a second chance, basically. They will not be put in jail even if they used drugs before Du30's term but if they start to get involved in drug activities again, they will go straight to jail.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Avenger101 on August 29, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
Its been a long time(Marcos Era) since criminals have a fear in Law. After that year, Law seems to be useless in our country until Duterte comes. I see that criminals have a fear again. I am a person who doesnt have any bad habits so i dont care how many pusher or user he will kill I only wants to feel safe again just like the old time and thats what Duterte wants too.

Rubbish. Tell me how many of the drug mafia heads have been arrested or murdered so far. Don't know the answer? I will tell you. The number is zero. Only the ordinary slum dwellers and low-end drug peddlers are getting killed. Criminals have no fear, as Duterte himself is a criminal. He is making use of this opportunity to get rid of his rivals.

During Duterte's time as Mayor in Davao. A very rich chinese businessman was killed was link to drugs. The suspect was a police in Davao.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/611258/davao-mayor-denies-drugs-involved-in-killing-of-cebu-businessman
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2016/07/10/richard-king-was-never-drugs-484414


Richard King was also a chemical engineer and in 2013-2014 was implicated in the smuggling of pseudoephidrine to Cebu which is a major ingredient in the manufacture of Shabu.


Drug lords killed:

Dragon
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan


Big time Chinese Drug lord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798118/big-time-chinese-drug-lord-shot-dead-by-police-in-valenzuela-city


Jaguar
http://www.tahonews.com/cebu-top-drug-lord-jaguar-killed-in-las-pinas-raid-mayor-tommy-osmena-reveals/


Bohol Druglords
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794834/suspected-drug-lord-shot-dead-in-tagbilaran-city
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/568900/news/regions/cops-kill-another-suspected-drug-lord-4-others-in-bohol


Leyte Druglord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/805414/alleged-drug-lord-in-leyte-prison-shot-dead-during-raid


Druglords that surrenders

http://www.filipinewsph.com/2016/08/quezon-biggest-drug-lord-surrenders.html
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/804164/top-cebu-drug-lord-surrenders-to-bato
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/791759/bohol-drug-lord-surrenders-amid-daily-killing-of-traffickers
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/07/16/PDEA-Suspected-drug-lord-Peter-Lim-surrenders-to-Duterte.html
http://www.mb.com.ph/quezons-biggest-drug-lord-athel-alcala-surrenders/



Druglords arrested

http://www.philstar.com/region/2015/03/06/1430654/cidg-8-arrests-one-leytes-big-time-drug-lords-12-others
http://www.rappler.com/nation/142115-alleged-chinese-drug-lord-nabbed-angeles-pampanga


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 30, 2016, 05:42:43 AM
Based on the post above this, bryant do you still believe that criminals have no fear and they can only kill those small time? A big NO. We know Duterte very much than you coz we live here while you're not. He's not done yet. Im sure there are still next news again about drug lords have been killed. Just wait.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on August 30, 2016, 05:52:06 AM
Odicta couple was recently killed by unknown individuals after they attempt to submit themselves to investigation after beig accused of drug trade. This couple is one of the richest in the western visayas. Thats how worse the drug syndicates here in the philippines that politicians are being bought.

War on drugs is a must. And must be bloody.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Caladonian on August 30, 2016, 06:02:26 AM
Odicta couple was recently killed by unknown individuals after they attempt to submit themselves to investigation after beig accused of drug trade. This couple is one of the richest in the western visayas. Thats how worse the drug syndicates here in the philippines that politicians are being bought.

War on drugs is a must. And must be bloody.
this couple was alleged drugs related case so it is not small time now it is just showing that even big time or rich personalities are also
been killed let see what's next the President is really serious about this campaign.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: electronicash on August 30, 2016, 06:15:13 AM
The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.


Its what they do this time. The previous goverment almost legalized it and now its time to regulate and its just worse for those in the drug business for a paychopath is about to kill them massively.

I'd be happy to just  put them all in a mass grave actually or just feed the dead bodies to the croc farm but thAt isn't very christian. Lucky for them they still getto have a proper burial.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 31, 2016, 06:00:46 PM
Based on the post above this, bryant do you still believe that criminals have no fear and they can only kill those small time? A big NO. We know Duterte very much than you coz we live here while you're not. He's not done yet. Im sure there are still next news again about drug lords have been killed. Just wait.

I can see that some of the drugs pins have been killed (either by the cops, or by the vigilantes). That is much better than killing the poor slum dwellers. Still, I believe that the most powerful drug lords may have already fled Philippines, by the time Duterte assumed power. It will be a huge challenge to bring them back, to face justice.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on September 01, 2016, 05:19:14 AM
Based on the post above this, bryant do you still believe that criminals have no fear and they can only kill those small time? A big NO. We know Duterte very much than you coz we live here while you're not. He's not done yet. Im sure there are still next news again about drug lords have been killed. Just wait.

I can see that some of the drugs pins have been killed (either by the cops, or by the vigilantes). That is much better than killing the poor slum dwellers. Still, I believe that the most powerful drug lords may have already fled Philippines, by the time Duterte assumed power. It will be a huge challenge to bring them back, to face justice.
Du30 has revealed the Druglords pyramid. Pointed out each of them. A few of them are in the Government and it caused chaos in the government. Those that were identified but still can't be found aren't allowed to leave the country, of course. But those who have thought of this and fled abroad even before Du30's term wouldn't want to go back here until Du30's term ends. There's still a chance, though, that they get deported once they are proven that they are related to those drug lords.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: MisO69 on September 01, 2016, 12:14:21 PM
Cebu's Top Drug Lord "Jaguar" Killed

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/571660/news/nation/hundreds-turn-up-for-funeral-of-alleged-drug-lord-jaguar

"Odicta and his wife, Merriam, met with Interior Secretary Mike Sueno on Thursday to deny their alleged involvement in drug trafficking.

During the meeting at Camp Crame in Quezon City, the couple allegedly submitted their version of a ''drug matrix'' involving lawmakers and local officials."

So after they blew the whistle on the governing body they were executed by the same people.

Like I said before, the prez and top officials in the Philippine government are all in on the take. They are all criminals and need to be prosecuted. The Philippines is beyond corrupt I would call it a failed state. The US needs to move in and clean up.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: MisO69 on September 01, 2016, 12:27:10 PM
The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.


Its what they do this time. The previous goverment almost legalized it and now its time to regulate and its just worse for those in the drug business for a paychopath is about to kill them massively.

I'd be happy to just  put them all in a mass grave actually or just feed the dead bodies to the croc farm but thAt isn't very christian. Lucky for them they still getto have a proper burial.

So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.



Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Shinpako09 on September 02, 2016, 12:33:21 PM
The so called war on drugs has been waging now since 1971 when Nixon declared the 'war'. The war still goes on.. and on.... and on...... guess what, you lost and can't come to terms with the truth. So you appoint psychopaths to deal with the problems. The Germans did the same thing after WWI. Look where that got them.

The problem with the war on drugs is the pushers in the governments that keep pushing this war agenda. The solution is clear. Decriminalize/Legalize and regulate. Alternatively, kill 100,000 and keep killing for the years to come.


Its what they do this time. The previous goverment almost legalized it and now its time to regulate and its just worse for those in the drug business for a paychopath is about to kill them massively.

I'd be happy to just  put them all in a mass grave actually or just feed the dead bodies to the croc farm but thAt isn't very christian. Lucky for them they still getto have a proper burial.

So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.


Okay lets say they are depress but mate to tell you thats not the only reason mate. Majority here in our country use drug to last long in drinking alcohol and some are using drugs to say that they are in, gangsta wanna be. That two reason is the main reason why they use drugs. Only few had a reason for depression.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: olubams on September 02, 2016, 12:40:13 PM
In my own opinion I dont think force has never solved anything in this world. When you kill, tens are ready to to take their place even drugs lords have been killing themselves since time immemorial why would govt help them do that... What he should have done is just  to cripple their activities in a  renewed way and let them fight themselves...


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: MadHatZ on September 02, 2016, 09:42:59 PM
In my own opinion I dont think force has never solved anything in this world. When you kill, tens are ready to to take their place even drugs lords have been killing themselves since time immemorial why would govt help them do that... What he should have done is just  to cripple their activities in a  renewed way and let them fight themselves...

Not true, if you kill more than they breed. There number will be negative soon. But the reality if you kill 5% and the 95% will be afraid.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Script3d on September 06, 2016, 11:41:10 AM
im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xenophoto on September 06, 2016, 12:53:19 PM
So we should kill poor people? The only reason they take drugs is because they have nothing else. I have never been poor to the point where I can't buy food to feed myself or my family. I couldn't imagine the amount of stress that could cause someone. Most of them are likely very depressed and have other mental issues because of the failure of their corrupt government.
Nope, they had a choice. They choose to sell drugs when there are other people who are as poor as them or maybe even poorer that are making money without being involved with drugs.

The Philippine government needs to fix itself from the inside first. I just don't think its possible for them to do so since everyone within that government is corrupt.
Let me stop you right there. We just had our election and the government officials are different from the previous ones. The previous presidents/senators are all corrupt but the new president seems to not need any cash at all. His house is just a simple one, he doesn't spend thousands of money just for a single dinner. He's all focused in eliminating the drug activities in our country, I don't think he has the time and interest in being corrupt.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: MisO69 on September 06, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those

Yeah he should kill the police and politicians as well.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Caladonian on September 06, 2016, 01:02:40 PM
im support our president here in philippines because we need real changes here corrupted officials corrupted police these must be removed our president is making a move to remove those

Yeah he should kill the police and politicians as well.
Waiting for this to happen as we know that this is a serious matter here in our country if big fish will be assinated too fear will show up to those whos doing it.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Xester on September 07, 2016, 11:40:26 AM
this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

That is what Mr. Putin of Russia said that those drug addicts, drug dealers are animals.  Human rights are for humans not for animals.  Yeah almost all of the Filipinos love Duterte as he shows strength.  He cannot become a puppet for oligarchs and other who were high in rank.  And I just read that Indonesia were looking up to the way Duterte manage drugs on the Philipines.  Indonesia have killed 3000 criminals or people related to drugs.  That is according to Rappler Indonesia.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: groll on September 07, 2016, 02:21:41 PM
this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

That is what Mr. Putin of Russia said that those drug addicts, drug dealers are animals.  Human rights are for humans not for animals.  Yeah almost all of the Filipinos love Duterte as he shows strength.  He cannot become a puppet for oligarchs and other who were high in rank.  And I just read that Indonesia were looking up to the way Duterte manage drugs on the Philipines.  Indonesia have killed 3000 criminals or people related to drugs.  That is according to Rappler Indonesia.

If that is true that Indonesia do the same thing on what the Philippines did to drugs, then maybe Duterte for the other country is a good president.  He became a role model.  I actually read everything about all his doings and how people from different country admires his way of handling his country. Filipinos, (including me) should be proud of having this kind of leader.  Change has come indeed.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: same21 on November 08, 2016, 01:10:09 AM
Illegal Drugs are the biggest problem in the Philippines. Violence and crime in the Philippines starts from using illegal Drugs, of course, if you are in your normal state you will not kill someone brutally just to be able to do your bad purpose on them. Because of this, Duterte Administration is trying to solve it first to lessen the crime and corruption and to make the Philippines be a safer country to invest and visits. Indeed change has come but you need to kill some.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: topiOleg on November 08, 2016, 04:29:48 AM
So is Philippines basically the Mexico of the East?


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: slaz26 on November 08, 2016, 04:41:57 AM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Kemarit on November 15, 2016, 02:08:42 PM
It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/26/nearly-2000-have-died-in-dutertes-war-on-drugs-in-the-philippines-one-is-a-5-year-old-girl/
http://time.com/4462352/rodrigo-duterte-drug-war-drugs-philippines-killing/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS


On June 1, 2016 Duterte Offers 3 Million php Bounty to Druglords and dealers
http://www.rappler.com/nation/134924-duterte-bounty-drug-lords

Thousands surrenders
http://www.elitereaders.com/thousands-drug-dealers-addicts-peddlers-surrender-scared-badass-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte/


65,000 drug pushers surrenders
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/573837/news/nation/pnp-chief-65-000-drug-pushers-users-have-surrendered-since-crackdown

Drug lords killed:


Dragon
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan


Big time Chinese Drug lord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798118/big-time-chinese-drug-lord-shot-dead-by-police-in-valenzuela-city


Jaguar
http://www.tahonews.com/cebu-top-drug-lord-jaguar-killed-in-las-pinas-raid-mayor-tommy-osmena-reveals/


Bohol Druglords
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794834/suspected-drug-lord-shot-dead-in-tagbilaran-city
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/568900/news/regions/cops-kill-another-suspected-drug-lord-4-others-in-bohol


Leyte Druglord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/805414/alleged-drug-lord-in-leyte-prison-shot-dead-during-raid

Druglords that surrenders

http://www.filipinewsph.com/2016/08/quezon-biggest-drug-lord-surrenders.html
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/804164/top-cebu-drug-lord-surrenders-to-bato
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/791759/bohol-drug-lord-surrenders-amid-daily-killing-of-traffickers
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/07/16/PDEA-Suspected-drug-lord-Peter-Lim-surrenders-to-Duterte.html
http://www.mb.com.ph/quezons-biggest-drug-lord-athel-alcala-surrenders/


Druglords arrested

http://www.philstar.com/region/2015/03/06/1430654/cidg-8-arrests-one-leytes-big-time-drug-lords-12-others
http://www.rappler.com/nation/142115-alleged-chinese-drug-lord-nabbed-angeles-pampanga
Its really a good progress among the other previous pres. Duterte is  a well respected man even before his term as president. His father image make them feel so secured and comfortable being under his judiciary. He is a good logical thinker and humor makes him more popular^^


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 15, 2016, 07:13:11 PM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Vinz24 on November 16, 2016, 11:33:38 AM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.


Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: zikel on November 16, 2016, 06:24:08 PM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.


Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: iCEBREAKER on November 16, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.


Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy

Drug Prohibition increases the price of drugs to ridiculous levels, forcing addicts to commit crimes to gain the required funds.

The drugs themselves are inert, blameless substances, and 99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes.

Drug Prohibition has ruined the Philippines and lead to its complete degradation, as exemplified by Duterte's mass murder of the poor.

All the FUD about "zomg legalization will cause the End Of Teh World!!11!" has never proven accurate.  Not in Holland, nor America, nor Colorado/Oregon/California.

But keep on doing more of the same thing and expecting different results.  Let me know how that works out for you.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: npredtorch on November 17, 2016, 06:46:20 AM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.


Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy

Drug Prohibition increases the price of drugs to ridiculous levels, forcing addicts to commit crimes to gain the required funds.

The drugs themselves are inert, blameless substances, and 99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes.

Drug Prohibition has ruined the Philippines and lead to its complete degradation, as exemplified by Duterte's mass murder of the poor.

All the FUD about "zomg legalization will cause the End Of Teh World!!11!" has never proven accurate.  Not in Holland, nor America, nor Colorado/Oregon/California.

But keep on doing more of the same thing and expecting different results.  Let me know how that works out for you.

I don't agree with this - "99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes". Will they sniff drugs all the time? No , and you missed the fact that most child rape case suspects are all drug addicts. Don't put the fire on the prohibition, put it on to the violators.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: bittraffic on November 17, 2016, 07:34:02 AM
Donal Trump wants to be Duterte then he should kill them. Thats what Duterte do.

I would like this happen to US as well. they should kill those who sells drugs, they causes teens death so its and eye for an eye and tooth for tooth. US will see how things could get safer in the end even with all houses have guns of their own, i bet this will keep the country a better place.



Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: deadsilent on November 17, 2016, 07:38:17 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.
Yeah, thats true. Thats why we have President Rodrigo Duterte to clean the mess that was made by the past administrations. Im very thankful because he won and became the president of the Philippines. He has the heart to help poor and he loves his country. I dont care about the killed 1800 drug addicts because they chose that path.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: groll on November 17, 2016, 08:27:22 AM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

I beg to disagree with your opinion. Drug legalization is a worst option. If drugs will be legalized, crime rate will increase. What benefit can a person get from illegal drugs? Drugs make a person crazy. It can only cause harm to one's health and can cause harm to the innocent ones. Why did you say that drugs will be legalized. For what purpose? Yes, let's say that Duterte's war on drugs is crazy. But it is much more crazier to have an option like drug legalization.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: electronicash on November 17, 2016, 08:47:40 AM
This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

I beg to disagree with your opinion. Drug legalization is a worst option. If drugs will be legalized, crime rate will increase. What benefit can a person get from illegal drugs? Drugs make a person crazy. It can only cause harm to one's health and can cause harm to the innocent ones. Why did you say that drugs will be legalized. For what purpose? Yes, let's say that Duterte's war on drugs is crazy. But it is much more crazier to have an option like drug legalization.

he needs to definite drugs though. Alcohol is a drug andlegal. but even so Duterte also ban alcohol on streets and bars are closed after 12Midnight. else a pack of army are going to approach your drinking session. ;D


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: andresem on November 17, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/ (http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/)
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243 (https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243)

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: clickerz on November 17, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/ (http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/)
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243 (https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243)

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved


You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: iCEBREAKER on November 17, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/ (http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/)
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243 (https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243)

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved


You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.

If you comply with tyrants and their intolerable, violent acts of vigilante murder and statist oppression, you are a domesticated animal, not a human being.

The War on Drugs (Prohibition on steroids) is a giant scam and pure hubris.  It's too bad most people don't realize this until *after* massive damage has been inflicted on their society.

The War on Drugs Is Over. Drugs Won.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a25070/war-on-drugs-is-over/

Can the War on Drugs ever be won?
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-War-on-Drugs-ever-be-won

Quote
No war on an idea can ever be won. Armies can defeat other armies and subdue national populations, but they cannot kill an idea because it isn't a living thing. One might think of killing everyone who has the idea, but in the case of drugs, that would mean wiping out virtually the entire human race, and the idea would come right back anyway. All of us who are not tiny children know what drugs are. If we did not, someone would soon discover them just as our ancient ancestors did. War on Drugs cheerleaders need to ask themselves, "Which do you consider a greater threat to humanity, drugs or mass termination of nearly the entire human race?"

Twelve years ago, heroin addiction in Portugal had reached epidemic proportions. People were dying in the streets because they had no idea what the potency of a street purchased smack was, and no way of knowing what it had been diluted with, or if it had been diluted at all.

Instead of jailing ever larger portions of their populace, the Portuguese  decided to try a different approach. They decriminalized drugs, and focused the money they had been spending on policing, trials, prisons and probation on drug rehab and education. Possession of small amounts of drugs are a misdemeanor similar to a parking violation. Addicts get help instead of jail. The result is they have cut heroin addiction in half and overdose deaths are nearly unheard of because addicts can legally get pure heroin from their treatment program. Costs of the program are also far lower than the War on Drugs approach.

Drugs Won the War
Nicholas Kristof JUNE 13, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/opinion/14kristof.html

Quote
This year marks the 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon’s start of the war on drugs, and it now appears that drugs have won.

“We’ve spent a trillion dollars prosecuting the war on drugs,” Norm Stamper, a former police chief of Seattle, told me. “What do we have to show for it? Drugs are more readily available, at lower prices and higher levels of potency. It’s a dismal failure.”




Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: funkenstein on November 18, 2016, 02:20:27 AM
iCEBREAKER has it.  Thank you. 

Prohibition is universally detested as barbaric idiocy by people from all sides of political spectrum, all churches, basically anyone who actually cares about life at all and is capable of thought.  One good voice on the matter and all to often ignored is LEAP - law enforcement against prohibition   http://leap.cc (http://leap.cc)


"Drugs are too dangerous to leave in the hands of criminals"

Duterte said some good things, but his policy in regards to prohibition leaves little choice but to be certain he is an agent of a drug running cartel eager to whipe out all competition.  Pathetic waste of valuable time. 



Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: LuanX3 on November 18, 2016, 03:57:01 AM
nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/ (http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/)
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243 (https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243)

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved


You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.

If you comply with tyrants and their intolerable, violent acts of vigilante murder and statist oppression, you are a domesticated animal, not a human being.

The War on Drugs (Prohibition on steroids) is a giant scam and pure hubris.  It's too bad most people don't realize this until *after* massive damage has been inflicted on their society.

The War on Drugs Is Over. Drugs Won.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a25070/war-on-drugs-is-over/

Can the War on Drugs ever be won?
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-War-on-Drugs-ever-be-won

Quote
No war on an idea can ever be won. Armies can defeat other armies and subdue national populations, but they cannot kill an idea because it isn't a living thing. One might think of killing everyone who has the idea, but in the case of drugs, that would mean wiping out virtually the entire human race, and the idea would come right back anyway. All of us who are not tiny children know what drugs are. If we did not, someone would soon discover them just as our ancient ancestors did. War on Drugs cheerleaders need to ask themselves, "Which do you consider a greater threat to humanity, drugs or mass termination of nearly the entire human race?"

Twelve years ago, heroin addiction in Portugal had reached epidemic proportions. People were dying in the streets because they had no idea what the potency of a street purchased smack was, and no way of knowing what it had been diluted with, or if it had been diluted at all.

Instead of jailing ever larger portions of their populace, the Portuguese  decided to try a different approach. They decriminalized drugs, and focused the money they had been spending on policing, trials, prisons and probation on drug rehab and education. Possession of small amounts of drugs are a misdemeanor similar to a parking violation. Addicts get help instead of jail. The result is they have cut heroin addiction in half and overdose deaths are nearly unheard of because addicts can legally get pure heroin from their treatment program. Costs of the program are also far lower than the War on Drugs approach.

Drugs Won the War
Nicholas Kristof JUNE 13, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/opinion/14kristof.html

Quote
This year marks the 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon’s start of the war on drugs, and it now appears that drugs have won.

“We’ve spent a trillion dollars prosecuting the war on drugs,” Norm Stamper, a former police chief of Seattle, told me. “What do we have to show for it? Drugs are more readily available, at lower prices and higher levels of potency. It’s a dismal failure.”



I would agree with this. Even if I am a Filipino. There are plenty of countries that had declared war on drugs and has not yet succeeded until now. And because the drug trade cannot be destroyed by killing more and more people, drugs just get more and more pure. Because, the purer the drugs the easier it is to transport than having a lower purity. Also the prices increase based on its purity.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: carlisle1 on November 18, 2016, 05:06:22 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

I agree , as you said they are scourge upon society so they deserve to be punished because they are the reason why there are so many committed in past few years . they don't not have any contribution to the Philippines they are just making other people's life miserable especially the youth so these drug dealers as well as their protectors must be punished and sent to jail or maybe sentenced to death .


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Caladonian on November 18, 2016, 05:11:27 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

I agree , as you said they are scourge upon society so they deserve to be punished because they are the reason why there are so many committed in past few years . they don't not have any contribution to the Philippines they are just making other people's life miserable especially the youth so these drug dealers as well as their protectors must be punished and sent to jail or maybe sentenced to death .
the president is really doing a great job regarding to this campaign as we see more and more known personalities has been broadcast which really not been touched before i believed that with this advocacy everything is possible we already felt what the fruits of this campaign we are no longer afraid walking at night as we knew that criminals are now afraid with this sudden killings that happened to those who involved with drug that creates this threat to our life.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Xester on November 18, 2016, 07:37:36 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

I agree , as you said they are scourge upon society so they deserve to be punished because they are the reason why there are so many committed in past few years . they don't not have any contribution to the Philippines they are just making other people's life miserable especially the youth so these drug dealers as well as their protectors must be punished and sent to jail or maybe sentenced to death .
the president is really doing a great job regarding to this campaign as we see more and more known personalities has been broadcast which really not been touched before i believed that with this advocacy everything is possible we already felt what the fruits of this campaign we are no longer afraid walking at night as we knew that criminals are now afraid with this sudden killings that happened to those who involved with drug that creates this threat to our life.


The Battle of the government against drug was really serious, The president was really eager to make the Philippines drug free. It is really amazing that the president did such actions that the other president did not do. At least we feel more safe than before. Dealing with drugs are not easy. Many people are mad with the president maybe because they are also doing miracles or they are the protector of drug, or maybe they are pusher, drug lord or whatever. with the Duterte's Administration drug campaign was serious and not only a propaganda.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: Sithara007 on November 18, 2016, 09:04:45 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

Drug dealers are just the symptom. Still, you are refusing to look at the real reason why this violence occur. Unless you improve the education levels, literacy and reduce poverty, the violence is not going to cease. And the only viable measure to end the menace of drug peddlers is to legalize and regulate soft-drugs.


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: Mihho on November 18, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
I have no pity for such people. Drug dealers have killed hundreds of people and now got what they deserved


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: carlisle1 on November 18, 2016, 02:14:20 PM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

Drug dealers are just the symptom. Still, you are refusing to look at the real reason why this violence occur. Unless you improve the education levels, literacy and reduce poverty, the violence is not going to cease. And the only viable measure to end the menace of drug peddlers is to legalize and regulate soft-drugs.

no i don't think so, they are not just the symptom they are actually the plague who spread a thing to a certain nation/country which deteriorates it's citizen . and I think even some Educated Persons are getting involved to this drug and some of them are users of a certain drug , what I am trying to say is that even the education is improved Violence will not going to cease as Drug Dealers are still on their position .


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting
Post by: funkenstein on November 18, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

Drug dealers are just the symptom. Still, you are refusing to look at the real reason why this violence occur. Unless you improve the education levels, literacy and reduce poverty, the violence is not going to cease. And the only viable measure to end the menace of drug peddlers is to legalize and regulate soft-drugs.

no i don't think so, they are not just the symptom they are actually the plague who spread a thing to a certain nation/country which deteriorates it's citizen . and I think even some Educated Persons are getting involved to this drug and some of them are users of a certain drug , what I am trying to say is that even the education is improved Violence will not going to cease as Drug Dealers are still on their position .

End prohibition, you put those drug dealers out of business overnight. 

Anybody who supports prohibition is a stooge in the pay of drug cartels, end of story.  Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals. 


Title: Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting
Post by: birareru1988 on November 18, 2016, 05:49:27 PM
Maybe in a year, the Philippines will remain addicts. For me they are not people. Moreover, they are constantly involved in drug abuse other people. Or give up in hospital or you have no place in the country.