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Title: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 26, 2016, 11:14:29 PM
Dear friends!
We are happy to present you our platform http://gifty.top that allows you to buy discounted gift cards (only digital) using bitcoin.

We won’t claim that we are the best, the coolest and other nonsense. That is not true. But we have the best prices out there. Some see it as a way to make money by buying our discounted GCs and re-selling them for profit.

Briefly about our benefits:
- No registration needed.
- Easy to use interface.
- Mobile friendly.
- 24 hours support.
- Region Unlocked
- Insta processing
- You receive the code by e-mail.

We use BitPay exchange rate !

Our current prices are :
10$ Gift Card --> 9$
20$ Gift Card --> 17$
25$ Gift Card --> 21$
50$ Gift Card --> 40$ (Limited offer)
100$ Gift Card --> 75$ (Limited offer)

Available Gift Cards :
- Amazon
- Steam
- Ebay
- Walmart
- Target
- Google Play
- Itunes

More will be coming soon. feel free to contact us and let us know which gift card should we add next.

Contacts:
admin@gifty.top
giftytop@gmail.com

Stay tuned!


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: adamtogo on August 26, 2016, 11:17:03 PM
Nice prices would consider


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Hazir on August 27, 2016, 12:14:46 AM
Are you going to accept PayPal as a payment method?
I am asking not because I necessarily want to pay with PayPal, but integrating PP payments would make your service more trustworthy.
Also I am quite sure that I saw your announcement post here on bitcointalk before.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 12:37:41 AM
This is a scam I'm just warning users he still hasn't given my gift card or a refund for my purchase
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)

It seems his other account that was posting threads of the site was banned so he made another account to start spamming posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217)


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: bitcoin revo on August 27, 2016, 01:21:48 AM
Don't many discounted gift card sellers end up to be doing some kind of fraud with the cards themselves (stolen, hacked, illegally obtained, etc.)? The fact that, from your FAQ:

Quote
We currently process payments from Bitcoin only.

just makes me feel even more like you're just accepting non-reversible payments so that a scammed payment cannot be reversed. I would certainly want to be proven wrong though.



This is a scam I'm just warning users he still hasn't given my gift card or a refund for my purchase
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)

It seems his other account that was posting threads of the site was banned so he made another account to start spamming posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217)

You should be posting that over at Scam Accusations.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 01:22:34 AM
This is a scam I'm just warning users he still hasn't given my gift card or a refund for my purchase
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)

It seems his other account that was posting threads of the site was banned so he made another account to start spamming posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217)
Hello, we did send you a refund because we were out of stock.
please stop spamming since you have negative trust.
you can always contact us at giftytop@gmail.com


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 01:39:36 AM
This is a scam I'm just warning users he still hasn't given my gift card or a refund for my purchase
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)

It seems his other account that was posting threads of the site was banned so he made another account to start spamming posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217)
Hello, we did send you a refund because we were out of stock.
please stop spamming since you have negative trust.
you can always contact us at giftytop@gmail.com
Oh please show me the tx I'd of the refund  ::)


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 01:39:43 AM
Don't many discounted gift card sellers end up to be doing some kind of fraud with the cards themselves (stolen, hacked, illegally obtained, etc.)? The fact that, from your FAQ:

Quote
We currently process payments from Bitcoin only.

just makes me feel even more like you're just accepting non-reversible payments so that a scammed payment cannot be reversed. I would certainly want to be proven wrong though.



This is a scam I'm just warning users he still hasn't given my gift card or a refund for my purchase
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)

It seems his other account that was posting threads of the site was banned so he made another account to start spamming posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879217)

You should be posting that over at Scam Accusations.

We are accepting only bitcoin payements at the moment because we support bitcoin, and it is easy to integrate. Contrary, We didn't integrate paypal yet due to the limitations.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 04:16:19 PM
Nice prices would consider
Thank you


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 04:17:18 PM
Nice prices would consider
Thank you
So are you gonna give my refund I also sent a message to you and I'm still waiting.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: adamtogo on August 27, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Nice prices would consider
Thank you


just ordered a 20$ itunes gift card

will keep track


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 04:29:03 PM
Nice prices would consider
Thank you


just ordered a 20$ itunes gift card

will keep track
Order processed, Thank you for choosing us.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 04:55:26 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 07:16:21 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 07:20:55 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.

I'm asking you to stop scamming  ;D. Show me the tx ID of the refund that goes to one of my addresses that will prove you didn't just scam my BTC ::)


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Marocdm on August 27, 2016, 07:34:43 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.

I'm asking you to stop scamming  ;D. Show me the tx ID of the refund that goes to one of my addresses that will prove you didn't just scam my BTC ::)
Obviously, you a trying to scam us with the refund story. We don't send refund twice. That explains your negative trust.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 07:38:55 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.

I'm asking you to stop scamming  ;D. Show me the tx ID of the refund that goes to one of my addresses that will prove you didn't just scam my BTC ::)
Obviously, you a trying to scam us with the refund story. We don't send refund twice. That explains your negative trust.

Then please give me the transaction ID of the refund you sent me  ::)

Obviously your making up bs just to avoid being called out as being a scammer with you other site.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: DarkStar_ on August 27, 2016, 08:38:23 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.

I'm asking you to stop scamming  ;D. Show me the tx ID of the refund that goes to one of my addresses that will prove you didn't just scam my BTC ::)
Obviously, you a trying to scam us with the refund story. We don't send refund twice. That explains your negative trust.
Honestly, your the one who looks like a scammer right now. He has asked you to provide the tx ID of the refund transaction multiple times, and avoiding that question doesn't help. Showing the transaction ID of the refund has nothing to do with sending a refund multiple times. Also, his negative trust is involving something else. lolgato/Marocdm, what was the address that the refund was supposed to be sent to?


How are your gift cards obtained? Are they carded, stolen or hacked?

Are you going to accept PayPal as a payment method?
I am asking not because I necessarily want to pay with PayPal, but integrating PP payments would make your service more trustworthy.
Also I am quite sure that I saw your announcement post here on bitcointalk before.
How does accepting paypal make a service more trustworthy? That doesn't make any sense.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: lolgato1 on August 27, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
I would tell everyone to be wary of this site and don't take words from new members who supposedly seems to host a very similar site  ::).
It seems he refuses to refund my purchases or my gift card from over 1 month ago and has not provided a transaction ID of the supposed refund he said he sent.
We already send you a refund, if you have any other problems, you can contact us at admin@gifty.top or giftytop@gmail.com.
Im asking you to stop spamming or we will contact an admin.

I'm asking you to stop scamming  ;D. Show me the tx ID of the refund that goes to one of my addresses that will prove you didn't just scam my BTC ::)
Obviously, you a trying to scam us with the refund story. We don't send refund twice. That explains your negative trust.
Honestly, your the one who looks like a scammer right now. He has asked you to provide the tx ID of the refund transaction multiple times, and avoiding that question doesn't help. Showing the transaction ID of the refund has nothing to do with sending a refund multiple times. Also, his negative trust is involving something else. lolgato/Marocdm, what was the address that the refund was supposed to be sent to?



As this is the transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c (https://blockchain.info/tx/bb6efb1f4b98e72afb751dc504e6d4199b92d423c1106bd34fa18ee4fa25c77c)
If would want it sent back to the address that I sent it from which is 12gH2JSRmB5HQu9uGb4hLDZrSMcvce19Li


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: Hazir on August 27, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
Are you going to accept PayPal as a payment method?
I am asking not because I necessarily want to pay with PayPal, but integrating PP payments would make your service more trustworthy.
Also I am quite sure that I saw your announcement post here on bitcointalk before.
How does accepting paypal make a service more trustworthy? That doesn't make any sense.
Any sense you say? As much I might hate PayPal they have some means and regulation in place to protect both Seller and Customer.
It is good option when dealing with services with 'unconfirmed' reputation.

More info here: https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security (https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security)


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: DarkStar_ on August 27, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
Are you going to accept PayPal as a payment method?
I am asking not because I necessarily want to pay with PayPal, but integrating PP payments would make your service more trustworthy.
Also I am quite sure that I saw your announcement post here on bitcointalk before.
How does accepting paypal make a service more trustworthy? That doesn't make any sense.
Any sense you say? As much I might hate PayPal they have some means and regulation in place to protect both Seller and Customer.
It is good option when dealing with services with 'unconfirmed' reputation.

More info here: https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security (https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security)

Yes, there is seller/buyer protection. Pretty much everyone knows that too. While the option for charges backs is available, just accepting PayPal doesn't make you more trustworthy, since the only person taking a risk in that case would be the seller. If I was a newbie and wanted a loan of 100$ in PayPal, would that make me more trustworthy than one who wanted a 100$ BTC loan? No.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: bitcoin revo on August 28, 2016, 05:46:03 PM
Yes, there is seller/buyer protection. Pretty much everyone knows that too. While the option for charges backs is available, just accepting PayPal doesn't make you more trustworthy, since the only person taking a risk in that case would be the seller. If I was a newbie and wanted a loan of 100$ in PayPal, would that make me more trustworthy than one who wanted a 100$ BTC loan? No.

No... not really. You're saying that a shop that sells cheap gift cards and only accepts a payment option that is nonreversible, even if it turns out to be some sort of fraud, is more trustworthy than one that accepts another form of payment that has both seller and buyer protections, one of which is that buyers can get a refund if the gift cards turn out to be illegal?

And no, as much as the general cliche response of any kind of PayPal transfer thread on the forum is "PayPal is bad because any transaction can be reversed from the seller's pocket!", if scamming on PayPal were really that easy, it wouldn't be the first payment option that most online businesses use. It certainly should be avoided with bitcoin, but that's really mostly because it's against the ToS and the PayPal team themselves are against it.


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: unso on August 28, 2016, 09:56:22 PM
Nice prices would consider
Thank you


just ordered a 20$ itunes gift card

will keep track

so lets see, adamtogo is the only one here, who wrote he bought a card....
he has himself a thread for advertising a site with cheap gift cards
and oh, lets take a look at both sites, nearly the same design, just some colours changed
and both sides use the same phone number, seems legit....


Title: Re: [Gifty.top] > Buy discounted gift cards with Bitcoin [Automated]
Post by: bitcoin revo on August 29, 2016, 08:00:53 PM
so lets see, adamtogo is the only one here, who wrote he bought a card....
he has himself a thread for advertising a site with cheap gift cards
and oh, lets take a look at both sites, nearly the same design, just some colours changed
and both sides use the same phone number, seems legit....

Nice catch. Archiving all of this so that they can't try and change things up.

adamtogo's vouch on this thread (http://archive.is/N8F9l)

adamtogo's thread on BitCards (http://archive.is/inRts)

BitCards website (http://archive.is/PjOXF) (to be compared with Gifty.top)

Gifty.top's website design (http://archive.is/elHej)

BitCard's contact page (http://archive.is/ITBCM)

Gifty.top's contact page (http://archive.is/coQ0y) (note the phone number, design, and exact same form)

From this, I have changed my stance from "possible fraud, but no real suspicions" to "probable scam, avoid like the devil".

Don't buy from these guys unless they can reason out of this which is highly unlikely.