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Proving once again that Donald Trump is merely a scapegoat in the Liberal Democratic agenda. Let's look at a list of Trump's most controversial:

1) (On ISIS) "I would bomb the shit out of them"

"They have some in Syria, some in Iraq. I would bomb the s--- out of 'em. I would just bomb those suckers. That's right. I'd blow up the pipes. ... I'd blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left. And you know what, you'll get Exxon to come in there and in two months, you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies? They’ll rebuild that sucker, brand new — it'll be beautiful."

Pay attention to that last part. He mentions multinational corporations taking advantage of the military industrial complex, by capitalizing on post-war areas. This is something that is already being done under both the Democratic/Republican presidencies. It's called the corporatocracy, and there is a book by John Perkins about this (I highly recommend you check out "The Confessions of an Economic Hitman"). So, what exactly is it that's so chilling or terrifying about Trump's message, when we are already doing that? We saw how Obama lets a wedding in Yemen get bombed (http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/21/turning_a_wedding_into_a_funeral), then proceeds to authorize bombing Doctors Without Borders (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/06/doctors-without-borders-airstrike-afghanistan-us-account-changes-again), do they really expect us to think that, just because they have a (D) next to their name, that they will care?

2) (On immigration) "I will build a great great wall around our Southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall"

To start, I would like to say that Obama has deported more people than any other President (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661). Great, now that we have that cleared up, I'll also add that Obama has made plans to build a wall in Jordan (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/netanyahu-jordan-border-wall-predators-160210055942587.html), spent $75 million "securing the border" (read: More walls (http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/03/obama-administration-is-spending-75-million-securing-mexicos-southern-border/)) of which $15 million was spent by the Mexican government (Trump isn't getting his material out of nowhere). Also see, plans to raise the White House wall by 5 feet (http://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/Secret-Service-Plans-to-Raise-White-House-Fence-by-5-Feet-377329721.html)

So we can see clearly, it does not matter who is elected, left wing or right wing, they are both part of the same head.

Yes a big difference..
With Clinton if she wins election and carries on with her old tricks then the people will think arr well we knew she do this with a big grin on there faces because when your right about something you become smug..And if she win will life become better or worse?..
So people will just carry on as if nothing as happened to get ripped off by the next person in power maybe Chelsea Clinton next :o?..Because even the people voting say we know what's she like but rather have her than Trump..So America will become smug about the situation..
USA will all say..I TOLD YOU SO..

Now if trump wins and he does a Clinton and gets found out people will be really pissed and angry
and will want his head on a block and not even the army will support him if he lets the people down..
Because when his own supporters get let down they will go crazy ;) ;)..
Not with Clinton in power because even her own supporters don't trust her that much but they don't trust trump even more..
But look at the turn out for trump compared to Hillary trump filling stadiums Clinton filling her boots :D :D..
So well more people believe in trump than Hillary and if trump lets the people down OH BOY OH BOY..The people will be really mad..The republicans will go nuts and the people will and then the next person in power will do good by the people because what's just happened to the last person in power..
Now if Hillary wins and does her old scams it will take 2 more people in power before you click about that we need to do something about people in power taking back handers for what ever reason....

Just my thoughts on Trump and Clinton..
But i believe he wont let the people down but if he does i will be pissed for believing in him..
I be a lot more pissed than if Hillary lets us down because i am expecting it from her ;)..

Letting Muslims run our planet for money TUT TUT TUT..And not the nice Muslims..The worst kind of Muslims..Maybe hillary wants a throne like those bad Muslims and to treat you all like those bad Muslims treat there own people..
As as the saying goes you cannot ban one without the other.So ban all Muslims then no complaints.
Well only from Muslims but who cares ;)..
But maybe Hillary wants you to become Muslims so she can rule you all like Muslim rulers sitting on there thrones ordering there drones..

I am BRITISH AND 1 RULE WE BRITISH MUST FOLLOW..
WE SHALL NEVER EVER BE SLAVES..We will die before you try..
 

This kind of statement has been made in EVERY presidential election.

In this particular case it is dead wrong.

We can't have another 4-8 years of Obama/clinton no fucking way we need new blood.

It only matters for Businessman & Incorporations which sponsor them today in order to get benefits after their election... But, for the People it's the same "poor will stay poor & rich will become richer" => this the base of Capitalism where Presidents just apply what their sponsors plan for  :(

Hillary has a slim lead of 3% currently, there's only a couple of months left and anything can happen. If Trump wants to win he should stop being self-destructive few weeks before the election.

That's the point. He wouldn't be Trump if he stopped being self-destructive. Same with Clinton being Clinton. Same with the American people, to vote for either of them.

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It does feel like a joke to the outside world to see the political situation of America. The corporate world was always looming behind the political decisions ,those were the secrets of the past .The corporate world is ready to take over America in politics  ;D ;D America does make people dream about their wildest aisperations  ;D I dont care who comes into power as it wont affect me in the least bit  :P :P

when a president of a country make some racist clue, its a hell for the minority.
i hope all the president in the world doesn't have it.

If voting mattered they would make it illegal.

I think important for those American citizens because if they are wrong give a vote in the election will have an impact on economic development, etc.

Did you just ignore everything I had written in my original post? The same bad foreign policies will continue to be expanded under the new President, as they have been expanding consistently. Also:

* Both parties authorize prohibition and scheduling of substances

* Both parties have signed bills authorizing the surveillance, indefinite detention, and suspension of the due process of American citizens on US Soil. The Patriot Act and the NDAA received support from both parties

* Both parties have authorized drone bombs in the Middle East, which only seek to further radicalize the area. Both parties support interventionism.

* Both parties have signed bills authorizing use of drones as patrolling devices in the American airspace (See The FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012)

* Both parties support the federal reserve scam. Both parties have played a role in its foundation.

* Both parties believe the government should regulate marriage between two consenting adults.

* Both parties had spent over a billion dollars in their 2012 Presidential campaigns.

* Both parties support US intervention in Israel's illegal occupations of Palestine.

* Both parties are backed by the same corporations and special interest groups.

I'm going to stop here, because I know that if I add more, you guys will stop reading the post. I hope my point has been clear now though.

In the United States, there is a two-party system in place. It is nearly impossible for a third party candidate to get more than 20% of the vote in the POTUS elections. Even Ross Perot could gather just 18.9% of the vote in 1992. And whenever there is a strong third party candidate, things get easier for the Democratic candidate. That happened in 1992, and the same will happen in 2016 as well.

I have already made my prediction for 2016, Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President. It's unfortunate, but it is going to happen, because the mainstream media has a very pro-Clinton agenda.

Yes, it matter.
Hillary Clinton is much more qualified for this position, she will not lead aggressive and dangerous foreign policy, accept dictators, create walls between Mexico and USA etc.
Trump is much more actor than politician.
He acting all the time and manipulate media and voters a lot.
He don't have quality of good leader and will divide country and the world, in the case he win election.

The fact that you even say that means you did not read my entire post. Hillary Clinton has already done all that and will do much worse once she is President. Trump only talks about it, Clinton has walked his talk. Hillary has a greater influence on the media and manipulates the crap out of her voters, she is more corrupt and richer than Trump.

Sure, you can point out commonalities.  Or you can point out differences.

One does not negate the other.

It's a comparison of policies. A wide majority of their policies are identical. You can't really point out major differences in their policy. So you are the one who is wrong, dead wrong.

If Clinton is elected, I fear that she will start a war with Iran. What's sure is that Trump would be a lot more effective in dealing with ISIS than Clinton.

The concept that 'it doesn't matter' is, I believe, a fairly well thought out and coordinated program of 'demoralization.'

That said, it really hasn't mattered very much for about 50 years.  Although the head of the executive does have enormous power, and especially so since the Cheney administration, we've been given a 'choice' between two of the same thing by the oligarchy.  Basically we've had the choice between who the oligarchy actually wants, and an alternative choke artist which they would be happy to have if we 'voted wrong.'  Normally we don't 'vote wrong' and when we do by some small margin (e.g., Cheney v. Gore) it has been easy to make a real-time 'correction'.

[Not that the oligarchy is exactly monolithic.  Some surely would have preferred Gore and an effort to solidify global govt at that time, but it probably would have proven premature.  Not enough foundation yet constructed.  Cheney's 'new american century' was a better plan.  It utilized the U.S.'s strong global position to strengthen and consolidate resources into the hands of the dominant set of oligarchs prior to 'the event.']

I continue to hold that there is a decent possibility that 'Trump is different' and this election is unique in modern times.  Unfortunately there is no way to really know until after the fact.

I also continue to hold that there is no way that the oligarchy will let Trump in if he is for real.  The loss of investment (of various types) would be impalpable to them and they are not used to losing.  The core of the oligarchy will do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen.  If somehow Trump (or someone like him) take over he'll have to deal with a scorched earth.  Potentially literally.

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As for Clinton, it is clear to me that she has nothing but disdain for 'the people' generally.  Imagine what must go on in her brain-damaged mind when Trump holds a rally and gets 10,000 people in a stadium while she has one the same day and gets 300 in a high school gym.  But-hurt wouldn't begin to describe what she must feel.  The woman is so awful and vindictive that I plan to batten down the hatches if she is successfully installed and will be ready to get the hell out of Dodge.  It won't be pretty.

LoL you are such a joke... Reader of haretz?

*Why is she more qualified? What has she done apart establishing one of the most successful criminal franchise in the world? You know trump buildings didn't spring of the earth like Moses water...

*How do you know her policy? What she will be able to do? You know that all she did is known in the pentagon... All of it. On the other side trump seems more receptive to information and able to process it in an efficient way. At least he roots for America.

*lol about your comment and dictator... Hillary's fundation has accepted money from who ever was willing or for whom it was necessary to pay. She is the absolute whoretrash. Furthermore she is proud to have freed a child rapist she knew was guilty. O remorse about it.

* so walls are good for isreal, but not America? It's forbidden for the American people to know who enter and who leaves America? It should be wide open with no border control? You know the one law for Jews and one for the others has 0 success to be reality in the world... I introduce Russia, China and the American patriots... Time to comeback to reality zealot.

* trump is much more business than actor... Your pumped bimbo is the real joke, worldwide. Only an ennemy of America could root for hrc. Look at what she did to Bernie the foollakesidehome?

*ahh I see a world United... No thanks. The UNITED STATES of AMERICA share a common federal constitution and bill of rights that give the maximum amount of freedom worldwide. Happily business men like trump were able to flourish there (Apple has more cash than the entire Russian military budget :)) and was able to afford $ domination and the widest military force ever recorded in human history. Expressly and by design to defend the UNITED STATES of AMERICA against all foreign and domestic ennemies in a preemptive forward basis. Liberty and freedom in actions. Trump by managing his companies has proved that he can be an effective leader of the country, he can stand his ground.

So frankly you have a mental problem or what to not see the greatest United States of America ever! You know it's not because the USA get better that you (or isreal) get weaker. You have a very skewed perception of reality or are a domestic enemy. Typical of Haretz reader and pusher. You know the global socialist international was a program of the Soviet Union to weaken and defeat the capitalist world... And like alqeeda it took a life of his own (only diff is that the ideology of supremacist Islam is way way more older, while global international socialism is very recent in comparison).



There is a high chance that trump is different! Would be great to give him a chance... The old mamy almost to sick to care for her grandkids should really stop her act. Enough with the Clinton, what ever her foreign backers think.

They better be aware the us forces will not surrender the USA so easily... It could even be a trap :D.

Attempted invasions of Iran and North Korea would be like the tip of an iceberg. I believe that her main targets are Russia and China. Let's see how far she gets with her plans. Even a war with Iran could potentially bankrupt the United States and the NATO. Regarding the ISIS, I believe that Trump is more effective, simply because Hitlery was one of the masterminds behind its creation.

I do not doubt it


For these reasons, I believe that Hitlery will be the next president of America. unfortunately


this is the trump error, it is very sincere, he says what he thinks.

Apart from this, there are a variety of factors which are currently working on her favor. Some of them are:

1. The Ukrainian-American community, which has traditionally voted Republican till now, has turned against Trump due to his closeness to Russia.
2. RINOs are encouraging grassroot Republicans to vote for Hitlery.
3. Feminists are against Trump and there is a huge gender gap in the opinion polls.
4. Demographics are working against Trump. There will be more African American and Hispanic voters, compared to the 2012 elections.
5. Mormons are not going to vote for Trump.

I've known a number of Unkrainians over the years who worked in the tech sector in CA.  Most (and maybe all) were Russian speaking.

I will say that even these Russian speaking ones seemed to have no love lost for Russia.  But this was some years ago and I've lost contact with all of them since the overthrow of the pro-Russian leader which seems (and correct me if I'm wrong) to be an no small part the handiwork of the Soros affiliated groups, and the subsequent damage which seems to have fallen disproportionately on the Russian speaking community.

It seems to me that a fair number of 'Ukrainians' here might have had their hatred of Russia dulled somewhat by events that transpired since they hauled ass out of the place when compared to the alternatives.

Beyond that, it seems to me and I think others that Trump's 'closeness' with Russia is largely due to wishing to avoid a nuclear WW-III.  As Assange points out, Trump (unlike the Clintons) did poorly in business dealings with Russia which casts doubt on how 'tight' his relationship with the leadership machinery actually is.  Some segment of the Ukrainian diaspora here must see things similarly.

Since I no longer have Ukrainian contacts who are close enough to reach out to (this being not the most critical area of research in my life), I would be interested in your take on my hypothesis here.

There are two groups of Ukrainian Americans. The first group consists of the immigrants and their descendants, who arrived in the US prior to 1950. The second group consists of of the immigrants and their descendants, who arrived in the United States after the breakup of the USSR. The first group is more "Americanized" than the second group, and their foreign policy is in somewhat sync with those of the US government. Trump is having issues with the first group. 

Thx.  That is enlightening.  I actually had not even considered immigrants since before the fall of the Soviet Union or thereabouts since the later cohort are the only group that I had first-hand experience with.  I lived in the ratified environment of Si-V (and never the 'Deer Hunter' rust belt or whatever.)   I won't argue that the older group has numbers which even factor in since I don't know, but I assumed they did not and/or were so well 'Americanized' by this point that their political preferences more-or-less mapped to the population at large.

Impossible tha she could thus be..

I know this is not related to the thread, but important to see this article, could be just scaremongering, and I do not know the reputation of the website, it just may be hot air, any truth in this at all, if so something big is going down.

http://conservative-daily.com/2016/08/31/breaking-news-obama-atf-announces-backdoor-ammo-ban/

Maybe this is related to the ammunition ban.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-eyes-special-declaration-to-take-charge-of-elections/article/2600592

Every single time Obama gives a speech on gun control, weapons stocks prices increase. He has got to own shares in those weapon stocks, it's the only thing that makes any sense.

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I am thinking about this statement

A key ingredient necessary for making gunpowder has been re-classified as a high explosive, making it illegal for any company within the industry to transport or store it as they have for decades.

No ammo right, Homeland gonna rig the vote right.

People want to fight back? when your own ammo runs out, nothing to replace it with.
Maybe I looking at this like a conspiracist and I am wrong, I just see a weird connection to this.

The answer to the ammo problem is, when the company wants to transport it, simply sell it to one of their employees, who transports it personally. The Constitution and Bill of Rights keeps transportation of personal property from being denied. Then sell it on the other end.

This also bypasses a lot of interstate transportation taxes, because transporting personal property over State lines can't be taxed easily.

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Then you know it's time to order ammo from Mexico, courtesy of the Silk Road (whichever version is currently being used right now, LOL).

Hillary Clinton. I see something better,  something can make US better.
As a woman,  she can be a motivator for the girls around the world that a woman can be someone.
Woman can be a leader, woman can lead a big country.

Trump on how he speaks reminds me of the now president of the Philippines Duterte.  They are both tough talking without a brake on every words they said even it could be used against them.  Sometimes those people who are expressive are the one you could really trust.  They must be harsh with their words but if you look at it and realize that, yes, it is true, it is the way to do it, it is how should be done.  On the otherhand, Mrs. Clinton is a politician so we know how she will do it on the office. 

Are you implying that Donald Trump is "not" a politician? That's actually pretty funny.

I don't think so, just being a woman isn't enough. What happened to Brazil? Croatia isn't flourishing either...


What? Like there are no great women throughout history? That's retarded, fuck Clintons.

You mean, how to motivate the girls to lie cheat and steal?

Sending a message to all the little girls around the globe: If you are ever molested by Bill Clinton, he will go free!**

**If not, Hillary will defend him in court and let 'im walk free, then brag about it in her books

More lessons from Clinton to little girls:

* If you have close ties with Wall Street executives and a track record of corruption, you too, can become a President some day, while facing FBI Investigation!

* One day you, too, can become President, if my foreign policy hasn't bombed you to pieces already though

* Accused of a crime? Call everybody a sexist, this will automatically refute all their points.

Clinton is sly, lies to the public, is racist and a pseudo-feminist. She really can ruin America.
Trump is sly, but tells his plans boldly. He is racist too. Both are wasting Government's money.
Are americans fool? Who made the comedians popular?
One argues over 10k emails, one argues over his company's loans

Clinton = WW3
Trump = US bankrupt and no WW3

Clinton would kill all people on the world you saw her talking BS on Kadafi with smile.
Trump can is buisness man so i don't know if all his BS is just true or BS and when he comes to be president all is BS
and nothing really happened becouse people in charge are BANKS at end.

One of the biggest thing I'm looking forward to in a Trump presidency is to 'go bankrupt.'  I very much liked it when the guy say 'I the king of debt.  I love debt.  I love to play with it.'

My opinion is that if entity A defaults on a debt to entity B, it is more entity B's fault than the other way around.  This is the reason I have very little sympathy for those who lost money/Bitcoin in the myriad of instances when an exchange folded up and appropriated their funds.  (BTW, Mt. Gox still owes me a $5k wire and I consider it 100% 'my fault' since I made the calculations about how much to allow them to owe me.)

Back to the U.S., nobody for the last 20 years should have expected to get their money back when they bought our debt, and certainly noone as sophisticated as, say, China.  They were strong-armed into buying our debt for other benefits (e.g., monetary flows to build their industry, oil flows to keep it running, etc.)

I would say that we'll have a 'bankruptcy' (as well as more war) under Clinton or her replacement as well but in that case our resources will be offered by the well connected to the creditors.  This will include our infrastructure, our in-the-ground mineral reserves, and even the private property of innocent U.S. citizens.  This is more-or-less what happened as the Soviet Union fell apart.  Many of the resource grabs (e.g., the EPA's WOTUS rule) look a lot to me like a setup for just this eventuality.

He is the king of debt only when he has the US Government to bail him out and take his side, and he owes his success to exploiting legal loopholes which he won't be able to benefit from when trying to apply the same techniques to resolving America's debts with China and Russia

Of those options I definitely like the second one.

Then why exactly general media presents Trump as WW3 propagator? I got the impression that he is presented as bad guy and potential catalyst of new conflicts.
While Hillary is calm and rational person who will rather negotiate and try to find a peaceful solution - is not that right?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Janet_Yellen_official_Federal_Reserve_portrait.jpg/480px-Janet_Yellen_official_Federal_Reserve_portrait.jpg

Okay? So go back plotting your sdr take over, it ain't gonna happen... But maybe you are so uninformed that you don't know who is the woman on the picture? It wouldn't surprise me from someone who wrote what you did.