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You can follow the countdown here:

https://fork.codetract.io/

After all the insinuations from you that this new hard fork will have big negative impact on Ethereum, again you have been proven wrong.

This hard fork is ok because it is attempting to fix bugs and flaws in the platform. Did you expect that there will be 3 Ethereum chains running by now? Who would be stupid enough to mine on a chain that can be DOS attacked to slow it down.

It is now ETC's turn to hard fork because they too are vulnerable to the DOS attacks.

I think i know why he's a two faced slut. It's because of his "fail community" little thing, so he has to be anti against, well, anything, so he can gather more haters around him and agree with eachother how much they hate ethereum and anything else that has potential.
@john999 yes it seems so, but i don't think this will negate any future attack attempt, people from bitcoin side may find new bugs and attack it again. However they aren't a threat, EF proved capable enought of solving any problem that came in their way.

Yes.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-successfully-hardforks-2/

good news for this hard fork. Many ICO is relying on ethereum. I guess this will give agood outcome for all ethereum based project.

that's what we heard last time
bets on some exchange listing 'ETH classic fork' after eth heads finish chest pounding ... 2FORK ... should be the ticker ;)

wow,lets see what will happen..hope eth price will not drop under 10...

one question that i don't see anywhere is that "was this even a hardfork? because to me it is more like a bug fix and since there is no "roll back" kind of thing that makes the coin backward incompatible i think this is more like a softfork.

if this is true then there will be no secondary coin leftover like the last time.

It is a hardfork because if some miners decide to stay on the old chain, then that could theoretically survive. Hardfork doesn't always mean rollback or breaking immutability. These kind of hardforks are good and needed. Ethereum has 4 major steps: frontier, homestead, metropolis and serenity. However, if needed, more hardforks will be made in between these major updates if needed, obviously. It was even speculated by buterin that most likely more hf's would be needed, but these cannot be predicted, like this flaw ethereum had now that was fixed in the last hardfork and the next one that will soon follow, Basically a hardfork split into 2 stages.

Hardforks got a bad rap mostly from bitcoin side, they try to avoid hf-ing at all costs because bitcoin atm is too big and they're afraid it would fail. And also a bad rap from rollbacks that happened in some other projects ( ethereum's HF in the summer wasn't a rollback either, as some FUDers want you to believe ).

lol of course you do but who listen to you or cares about your opinion?

Avoid "listening" to mining1 or Minecache. They are both proved ETH shills and they will worship it, even if someone proves that the Devil is involved in its creation.

There is one of the stories: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-forgotten-currency-norway-oslo-home

Yet another attack on Ethereum and it would require another (as intended) hard fork to fix this:

https://ethstats.net/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/?st=iugxk1b7&sh=81f19a7e

But no worries, lets fork the hell out of it.

Pathetic. You know well this HF was going to be split in 2 HF's. Not to mention HF to improve the network is only good, nothing bad at all in it. Pathetic dollface.

And i'm not a shill nor i'll ever be. Decided to play a bit with my ETH, shorted 30% of it because of this attack, will buy back as soon as i'm happy with the gain. Still, after this short, i won't be a two faced slut like dollface and FUD because i wanna buy back.

You keep calling me dollface, but you are not showing yourself. I already bitch-slapped you like a 10s of times. Should I say more?

Posting your mugshot on a public forum doesn't make you any better, credible, relevant, knowledgeable etc, than anyone else on this site. You only posted your mugshot for your little project fail community and your fud, to attempt to back them up, atleast that's what you believe, in your little brain. It doesn't work, you have failed. Everyone on this forum can see how weak your FUD against ethereum is, you lack any general knowledge about anything (i'm not a technical person either but i can have some sense and logic), and i see the guy @bbc.reporter have noticed it aswell.
P.S: ethereum will probably HF atleast 3 times more in my opinion, not taking into consideration the roadmap HF's. The shock alone from that alone will kill you, you little sensible dollface.

@mining1

"i'm not a technical person"

well then how many $million did you float as VC to support fork-a-ETH?

May I suggest to assign one of the tokens to each old blockchain and let them to run on their own exclusive ETH blockchain and maintain ETH free of any token lolllzzz we can call the forked chains by token's names, how about that?

Let it be known from Now on and forever more.  :D :D :D

Tuesdays will be Ethereum Hard Fork Day

That will give them 52 hard forks a year.
Who thinks that still won't be enough.   :P


 8)

FYI:
Just wait til the lawsuits start that will require Eth Devs to hard fork to change previous contracts to avoid contempt of court charges.  :P

You're definitely not a very smart person, miners decide to fork because they believe the reasoning behind the fact that flaws need to be fixed. And lawsuits against who ? ETF doesn't own ethereum, it's decentralized, it has twice more nodes than bitcoin, with biggest miner not owning more than 2% of total hashrate.

And what's your point ? You don't lose ethers if you don't update. You only want to update if you're hosting a node, like if you're an exchange, or you're an active miner.

yup.. decentralized yet launched via an ICO  :D
mmmmhhhmmmm  ::)

Patch Day Tuesday ? Get your Windows updates people ?
Well..
"Patch Day Tuesday" has a new meaning now thanks to kiklo !  :D

Oh and forget about asking questions of the FraudBoys..
The other one is still hiding since i asked him how many accounts he has logged into here.
Or should i call him "Stoat" ?  :D
All these guys do is spew BS then hide anything that could identify them.

We have a rotating obscene group shilling hard for ETH who bend over backwards to hide who they are or what their ties to Ethereum are.
For all we know one of these or ALL of these puppet shill accounts are Butters himself.

What bothers me the most is that the market is not reacting to the ETH issues. After the last fork the price dropped by some 5.5 - 6% (and it's in decline ever since), probably because there was another attack (not sure if it continues), but all in all that proves that ETH price is sustained by some powerful whales. I believe that if Ethereum fix everything and it deals with the attacks for some time, then they will pump the price. This has nothing to do with the technology. It's all because of one purpose - making more money.

Yo guys can I have one of the blockchains after forking just like etc how did some one take control over it?

What bothers me the most is that people don't react to stupidity and facade otherwise you'd be whipped by random people in the public market. Reminder: before attacks started, ether was over 15$, and over the weeks it dropped to close to 11$ because of the DDOS attacks that slowed down the network. So, almost 30% drop in price because of a ddos attack that slowed down the network ( keep in mind, network was never at imminent risk of failure, just slowed down) is not a reaction to you ? Jeez, you're dumb.
Edit: ofcourse it's about making money, everything in this world is about making money and no one does it for free, especially if it's done while programming, inventing, innovating. Difference between eth and other 100000 altcoins is that it's making money pattern is based on something real, not same shit wrapped as caviar and sold to same idiots, like all these wannabe altcoin currencies are.

Why bother answering to this proved shill? But, oh, ok.

Ethereum price increased with some 1000% over the course of 3 months (January - March), then it halved by April when a new pump started and it gained like 500% in 1 month. But, yeah, I am the one who is dumb here....

Because of the amount of money invested into it given it's potential, therefore the solid infrastructure that came with this amount of money, having probably the biggest development team in blockchain sphere and constantly developing and innovating, then it suddenly started to gain attention and people noticed it, that's why its price increased, it was severely underpriced. And you cannot deny that, market decided it is that way. Then the priced halved because of the panic caused by the dao project fail ( not the network fail ) .
I don't deny pumps and dumps didn't exist in ethereum project in the very early stage, they exist and existed in all projects, and at that chapter bitcoin is king. But that's how things works, the easiest way to gain attention is to pump, then people decide if they want to join for speculation reason or if they think the value can be backed up by potential.
Nowadays eth price is not manipulated by whales nor anyone, otherwise we'd see much bigger swings in price, it's just what market believes. After the succesful fork, network improved alot since they fixed it's biggest problems, but some smaller attack vectors remained, and when the weaker attacks started 1-2 days ago, market reacted to it but not as severely, given the fact that the effect is so much lower and that it's going to be fixed in the upcoming HF.

the fact that it CAN hard fork with ease is very very very very concerning.

:o

You do realize that the DAO FAIL was back in June? And it did not affected only ETH, but the entire market? Should I remind you that I expressed my concerns 8 days before it happened? And that it may affect the entire "cryptoworld"? Market cap of cryptocurrencies was shrinked with more than $2.5Bn in a week. But, yeah, keep cheer leading a technology, which keeps changing the rules. Back then your fellow cheerleader Mindlesscache laughed, but then he suddenly disappeared and now he shows whenever he feels comfortable.  I show up whenever I feel that something is wrong and if people are losing money. Just like in this case:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1564499.0

And this:

https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/787680797608316928

And this:

https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/788072862972346369

And many more!

NLG is down by 39% as we speak.

About a week ago I had conversation with Emin Gun Sirer and I told him straight that I don't like Ethereum. His answer was something like "There are many people who don't like it.". There is a reason for that.

I had enough with your stupidity!

Well, you are so much more stupid than i am. Expressing concern doesn't mean anything, you're like that wannabe dev on this forum that expresses concern about anything with potential and attention, and when something inevitably doesn't go as planned, since everything out there is imperfect be like: I've warned you, it's flawed. I also express concern about all the projects out there including ethereum, global warming and your sex life. The only thing i'm certain it is worked on and being improved is ethereum.
If you think anything can be done perfectly and finished in the first try, you're stupid and you don't understand how things work. Mankind is improving for millions of years already, flashnews.
Edit: and the guy told you the obvious thing, obviously doh. If you're concerned it's only natural, obviously it's not a perfect system and it still has flaws, difference is they're actively fixed or improved.

hmm,
If you were a smarter person, I would not have to explain it to you.
But since you asked,

Many people due to age or mental status or just due to local laws that ban certain things, can easily have any contract voided in an actual court of law , and since the Dev of Eth has already proven he will fork it so his buddies don't lose money, courts will be able to compel him to write the updates or pay fines in reparation ,  so he will be forced to create these additional hard forks , which even if some miners refuse to follow him, exactly how many versions of the bloated code do you think can exist.
Each new Eth chain would diminish and divide the community until it dies.
You know United We Stand, Divided We Fall. Plus the fact Eth is not recognized by any court anywhere as actual legal contracts , more of just automated code.
Plus what idiot is going to write an alarm clock code that requires a download of a 100 Gigabyte blockchain,  when one can be written in less than a few megabytes in a normal programming language. Eth is just a bunch of hype pushed by Goldman Sachs to take advantage of the lower IQ among us.  ;)

 8)

I think ethereum (ETH) has done second hard fork and on date 25/10/2016 ethereum classic (ETC) will do first hard fork and i will see what will happen with ETH and ETC (their price). It is time to stop trading all of them in my opinion except just for collection of course with low amount.

This is what happens, when you are messing things up (like ETH is doing, pumps & dumps of s*itcoins on Polo): http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-bitcoin-eu-idUSKCN12I1HC

Not to mention ether.camp's $50 million crowdsale/ICO...

Any law court wouldn't be able to oblige a person or entity to change and manipulate something they do not own. It's like asking the pope to change what some christians believe about god because he (pope) has some influence and credibility. And as you just contradicted yourself, let's absurdly go with "a court could oblige ETF to fork something they have no control over, just influence" , how would they do that if it's not recognised by any court, just automated code ?

LOL,
You might want to tell google that.

The Automated code is not recognized as a legal document, however disputes over anything can be examined in a court, if one of the Parties felt that they were wronged by another party. The Judge or Jury then decides the outcome, Eth has no system in place to rewrite a so called contract if so ordered by a legal judge except a hard fork.
Which is why once these pretend contracts which are nothing more than automated code starts being argued about in a real court , the Eth devs are going to be compelled to hard fork all of the time or pay damages. Do you really think they will go broke rather than comply?   :P

Example.
You Offer a Service in one of these automated codes, you setup parameters to only allow a young person to enter it.
1st Lawsuit , Someone not legal age enters it with you, Parents find out and go to court to have it annulled .
That is a Hard Fork.
2nd Lawsuit , Someone over the age limit set in your Parameters wants to use this service and is denied.
You are then sued for Ageism. (prejudice or discrimination on the basis of a person's age.)
That would be another hard fork.
3rd Lawsuit , You charged a higher interest rate than Sharia Law allows.
That would be another hard fork.

Just as if a defect is found in an auto, a Court can force a company to fix the defect.
So it will be with the creator Buterin & his creation Ethereum.

It is amazing how little these asshats know about the legal system , that they expect this crap to stand up to any actual legal review, of not just the US but also Sharia Law. It won't , maybe that is why Buterin cashed out a million early on, because it is apparent this thing is designed to fail from the beginning.
It has a snowball's chance in hell.
https://waterman99.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/image4.png

 8)

@kiklo

I have reasons to believe that the DAO, Ethereum, the ICO/crowdsale scams and pumps and dumps on Polo are somehow connected.

That's the problem with decentralized platforms, you cannot control the projects that are build and deployed on them wether you like them or not, and that is a disadvantage of each and every one of them. I wouldn't trust you with 5E for example, but some people might invest in your stupid ideea, and not only you could be scammer, but they could have a flawed bugged platform like DAO. And about ether camp, they did some great stuff so far and their  CV is rich,  but i have  a feeling they might have not been very thorough, some concerns were expressed on reddit. I think the 50mil hard cap was misunderstood, they went to that because projects like firstblood were sold in few minutes, and that really is a cause of concern. A week timeline would have been more appropriate.
And btw, Dollface, the quality of development around ethereum ecosystem is not neither a cause nor an effect of ethereum, it's just the people, you cannot put that in ethereum's project back, as a whole. It's like your fud on this forum, there has to exist people like you so we others can diferentiate ourselves.
@kiklo you're a total idiot. Being the creator doesn't mean anything as long as he doesn't own it, this is your mystake because your logic is flawed and everything else you say connected to it is irrelevant. Satoshi nakamoto is the creator of bitcoin, if he went public do you think the government could possibly ask him to shut it down by pressing a switch ? You're on same level as Dollface, maybe worse.

Possible, that huge mistake, allow for the creation of the ETC, which gave many of those goldman sachs asshat free coins, which now they can crash whichever chain they decide gives them the most profit. It basically let them double their # of coins at zero costs. No telling which chain they will dump to death 1st.  :P


 8)

Insulting spartak_t is really showing how weak your argument is,
I mean if ETH is so great , where are the killer apps , why are the corps not using it automated code instead of Lawyers,
could it be because ETH is bullshit, and is only here to steal money from the naive?

The fact the guy is hard forking about every week now , kind of kills your decentralized arguement.  :P

 8)

FYI:
Satoshi has enough sense to hide, when the Gov thought he was the aussie, they sent in a swat team that was there to arrest him, and no one even sued him yet.
You are the idiot if you think you can release a product with defects that will cause financial harm and refuse to correct said defects when ordered by a Judge.
He can't hide behind Decentralization, because he has hard forked so much ETH is proven Centralized with him determining its course.

That's not my concern, because it depends on people if they decide to participate in this "game". I think that the reason is to bring more regulations on cryptocurrencies. I had literally 100s of chances to make profits, based on inside information and mostly hunch, but never took one. I am trying not to be hypocrite and that's probably why I am a poor failer. ;)

@mining1 (for the last time)

I guess you know more than Emin Gun Sirer:

https://i.imgur.com/4y13v8e.png

All i am hearing is mining1 dodging the questions that are repeatedly put on him.
Then he makes up bullshit with fabricated false numbers.. again (exactly like Minecache)
The guy (and his doppelganger account) is a CHRONIC liar and a fraud.

And lets see a picture of this clown.. see we can mock him incessantly.

I am never for or against Spartak but he does seem intelligent unlike the deceitful miningFraud boys.
We agree sometimes and others not so much LOL
Which is perfectly fine because we can act like adults and have a conversation about Crypto.
With out lying and childish insults.

mining1 your numbers are bullshit.. back your mouth up if your making bold claims.

Further more i can see you need to lookup what the word decentralized means.
Because apparently no mater how many times you are told you still do not get it.

Please spew more dumb shit.. it's clearly doing wonders for your glorious ETH cause.
Funny part is i bet the miningFraud boys have done more Damage to ETH than my "FUD" ever has.
I know that because i seen a bunch of guys say that here recently explicitly.

I agree with Spartak's assertion.. we are seeing manipulation STILL.
Yup.. terribly decentralized LOL
A coin ....an ICO coin, manipulated heavily since day 1 is ooohhhh soooo decentralized  :D

Butters + Friends = magic wand waiving fraudsters pushing an ICO "scheme coin" ..for $$$
How do we know ? Because he dumped a million dollars worth of his coins on his supporters.
Where & How did he get them and all his other coins and WHY did he dump them ?
Those who know.. are STILL tight lipped no matter how many times this is asked.

PS:
@mining1
Tell us all how many accounts you have logged into here.
Me ? ONE !

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

Ignore the Spoetniktard sockie trollposts dude, it's not worth your time and energy. Remember you can easily identify them as troll shitposts because only a snowflake fucktard idiot would care about a tech that they have zero investment in.

In exchanges a few traders are trading ETH all the time to lure people in buying, yes of course you can earn some bucks trading small amounts but in big scale it's all manipulations.

So if people buy or sell ether it is manipulation ? LOL.

I know. You couldn't make it up the fud these haters spread.

Is it a joke mate :D ? I've never saw a worst fudder than you and your Ethereum Classic hate, but I should say the "Criminal coin" to make you understand :D !

It does not matter if there are many fuders in the forum. It seems that the ETH and ETC has survived clearly.

Playing dumb ?

You know damn well the Staff here would never in a million years divulge that information to me if i asked let alone if you gave them permission explicitly.

You and your suspicious doppelganger account are a scammy sleazy shady secretive little deceitful fraud.
You make me sick.. you showed up here to peddle your scammy little ICO scheme coin scam.
..from the shadows. ..making damn sure you hide every possible info about yourselves.

Your bum buddy admits to dumping ETC coins on Poloniex then he goes on..
to keep posting spammy Topics on ETH all year long then makes a ton of them about
ETC being a criminal coin and says ohhh.. dumping them on Polo is not "Support"

You had them and sold them you fucking fraud.

And i know you are a fraud because all of Crypto said so.
We ran a Poll and it was unanimous until you showed up and voted once for "NO"
Other than that this whole entire section said you were full of shit.
and yet.. you STILL plow on with your same old idiotic shenanigans here.

This whole entire section laughs at you and mocks you and you simply act like it's not happening.
Your best ETH defense ?
Insulting Spartak over his profile picture  :D

Your days are numbered.
You WILL be exposed.. i guarantee you are higher up on the ETH team and sooner or later we are going to figure it out ..no matter how bad you hide it and when that happens you are REALLY going to look like scammy fraudsters.

ETH = $100 in 12 months you two said 6 months ago and the clock is ticking..

PS:

IBM
Big Banks
Microsoft

You really should start taking your meds again because your vile paranoid fud is plumbing new depths of despair. And I say that to you as a concerned fellow human being. As your trust rating is plummeting through the floor it's clear to all and sundry that your extreme paranoia is making you post lie after fud after lie. So you missed the ETH train. Be a man and just suck it up. No one likes a sore loser. Especially a mentally challenged one.

Allow me to devour you whole..
although i don't want to because every time i have in the last year you puss out and hide like a bitch LOL

Med's ?
Implying i am nuts ? Sure... why not.. does that affect the validity of my comments (FUD) ?
noooooope ..facts are facts.

I point out the long list of things you have been caught saying here on the forum and you say.. i am crazy ?
Well i say you are a lying fraudster playing dumb.

Vile Paranoid FUD ?
Hmm has Ethereum had any attackers ? Ever heard of DAO ?
SO.... uhhhhh.... when do YOU in fact have Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt about your invested money ?
Because if what we have seen so far is not enough then i don't know what is !
AKA: Playing dumb again.

New Depths ?
There is no "new" depths here fraudboy i have repeated the same comments and questions for a year.
And you have been dodging them just the same all along.. this is not new.

Despair ?
Over what ? warning people Butters might dump again ?

My trust rating is plummeting ?
Uhhmm no it has not changed since last year.. where the Monero retards negged me for posting news on the Police in France.

Monero shills are idiots.

And the other thing was VOD calling me a Pedo because i dared make a joke about people from Alberta.
The deranged fucking wacko apparently does not have a sense of humor and rampaged on me following me around for months trolling me hard all over the forum.. even in this section which was blatant because he never does comment here.. over & over he would show up and call me names and leave.
And what was he grand Negative rating excuse ?
I made a topic on hot chicks in porn these days.. knowing full well it would TRIGGER all you anti-piracy pricks because it happened on my other previous piracy related topics.
SO because i posted some pics from public sites of porn girls who had their ID verified in his mind that was child porn.
And if it was then i would wager 1 billion people on earth are guilty then too.. because in case you didn't not notice PORN happens to be popular  :D

Translation:
Anyone who visits the below NSFW link is a child porn purveyor of smut and fornication  :o
https://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=4

https://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/digital-family-life/internet-pornography-by-the-numbers

There is NOTHING wrong with my "Trust Rating" here.

And no i am not done with you quite yet fraud boy ;)

Paranoid ? Lied ?
What am i paranoid about and what did i ever lie about ?

FUD ?
Yup.. because it is warranted and appropriate given the circumstance and the context of the Altcoin / ETH situation.
Your denial that it is not reasonable is highly deceitful.

Missed the ETH train ?
I don't trade criminal coins for profit like you admitted to doing here .. remember ?
Remember saying ETC is a criminal coin and you dumped them on Polo for profit ?
Well.. fraud boy.. i don't trade ICO scam coins for money.
I leave that up to you.. so carry on bragging that i missed the train unlike you bag holder.
Ohhh and missed ?
I think you "missed" the train sweety ETH was well over $20 a coin and now it's lucky to hold onto $12
Your train hit a fucking brick wall HAHHHAHAHHA  :D

Be a man ?
Show me your balls.

I have told everyone around Crypto my ages and where i am from etc
Have you ?
I bet my left unshaved nut i am twice your age kid (i only shave the left one to confuse my GF)
Besides is trading ICO scam coins manly ?  ::)

No one likes a sore loser ?
Exactly ..look in the mirror fraud BOY.  8)

PS:
You never did answer the question.. you simply caused a diversion.
How many accounts have you logged into here ?

PPS:
People this fraud has told us here we should invest in Ethereum because "Big Banks" are buying shitload of ETH ..after spending ages spamming us about how ETH is being used by Microsoft & IBM.
SO when is the last time you heard that ? cough cough Azure  :D
Derpty derpty derp goes the fraud.. ETH be worth $100 a coin in 6 months !!!!111ONE OMGBBQ
Fucking fraud LOL

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EDIT:

VOD used this link for the trust rating.. [P2P] Ever Wanted to Ask a Pirate Questions ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1289771.msg13251832#msg13251832)

..look yourself people.
See any child porn proof ?

And his other rating ?
Was a claim i was on "Welfare" and that was i am 100% certain because someone whispered in his ear..
almost 4 years earlier i had said i was on Disability not working with Back problems.
So.. how he managed to find that out i have no idea because Cryptsy does not store chat logs.
Further more it is also 100% impossible to prove.
Nor have i posted ever since if i was or was not on "assistance"
So his claims were 100% unprovable bullshit..
He also called me an "Indian" who lives on a reservation and that he paid pays my taxes etc.
I have since stated my taxes have been paid in full for one decade+ and i am not an Indian nor am i on welfare.

How that retard has any credibility around here i have no idea..
He is a racist mouthy little scumbag... from Alberta LOL
And all of that over a joke.. he failed to "get"

Oh and i find it funny he is sooooo good at digging up dirt on me with that 4 yr old chatbox comment that he got the wrong link for his EVIDENCE of my child porn activity..
He in fact meant this one [NSFW] [XXX] Up & Cummers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1297464.0)

neeeeeeeeeeeeeext