Ethereum hard-fork in ~20 hours

[kiklo]

Not to mention ether.camp's $50 million crowdsale/ICO...

That's the problem with decentralized platforms, you cannot control the projects that are build and deployed on them wether you like them or not, and that is a disadvantage of each and every one of them. I wouldn't trust you with 5E for example, but some people might invest in your stupid ideea, and not only you could be scammer, but they could have a flawed bugged platform like DAO. And about ether camp, they did some great stuff so far and their  CV is rich,  but i have  a feeling they might have not been very thorough, some concerns were expressed on reddit. I think the 50mil hard cap was misunderstood, they went to that because projects like firstblood were sold in few minutes, and that really is a cause of concern. A week timeline would have been more appropriate.
And btw, Dollface, the quality of development around ethereum ecosystem is not neither a cause nor an effect of ethereum, it's just the people, you cannot put that in ethereum's project back, as a whole. It's like your fud on this forum, there has to exist people like you so we others can diferentiate ourselves.

Insulting spartak_t is really showing how weak your argument is,
I mean if ETH is so great , where are the killer apps , why are the corps not using it automated code instead of Lawyers,
could it be because ETH is bullshit, and is only here to steal money from the naive?

The fact the guy is hard forking about every week now , kind of kills your decentralized arguement.  

 

FYI:
Satoshi has enough sense to hide, when the Gov thought he was the aussie, they sent in a swat team that was there to arrest him, and no one even sued him yet.
You are the idiot if you think you can release a product with defects that will cause financial harm and refuse to correct said defects when ordered by a Judge.
He can't hide behind Decentralization, because he has hard forked so much ETH is proven Centralized with him determining its course.

[spartak_t]

@kiklo

I have reasons to believe that the DAO, Ethereum, the ICO/crowdsale scams and pumps and dumps on Polo are somehow connected.

Possible, that huge mistake, allow for the creation of the ETC, which gave many of those goldman sachs asshat free coins, which now they can crash whichever chain they decide gives them the most profit. It basically let them double their # of coins at zero costs. No telling which chain they will dump to death 1st. 


 

That's not my concern, because it depends on people if they decide to participate in this "game". I think that the reason is to bring more regulations on cryptocurrencies. I had literally 100s of chances to make profits, based on inside information and mostly hunch, but never took one. I am trying not to be hypocrite and that's probably why I am a poor failer.

@mining1 (for the last time)

I guess you know more than Emin Gun Sirer:

[kiklo]

I was looking at Poloniec margin lending feature and i have a wild thought:

Is it possible to lend bitcoins at Poloniex and use Eth contract to enforce poloniex to return the loaned bitcoins automatically to my bitcoin address 30 days later?

Considering all of the problems with DAO, I sincerely doubt Poloniex would be stupid enough to use Eth for anything related to the transfer of coins on their system.
It would be like a death wish.

Eth is good for only 1 thing driving the price of hard drives higher with all of Eth wasted bloated storage space sucking requirements. 
Buy Stock in Western Digital & Seagate to make money off of ETH.


 

FYI:
You do know Eth has Zero Legal Standing as an enforceable legal contract. 

That might change. For example, the DAO hacker got the ETC from the stolen DAO due to a smart contract.

LOL, ,  not anytime soon.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/a-lawyer-s-perspective-can-smart-contracts-exist-outside-the-legal-structure-1468263134

"Smart contracts" seem to be the buzzwords that are gaining increasing traction in the digital market.
It is a sound enough idea, a contract that will rewrite itself according to commercial circumstances surrounding it
by using a complex series of rules embedded in its coding.

The ideas behind it are equally as sound theoretically.
Less input from the contracting parties means that smart contracts will come into being quicker and,
therefore, allow for transactions to be raised and completed more quickly.
Also, the fact that smart contracts require less input from both the parties involved and their lawyers,
will make commerce more fluid and more cost-effective both in terms of time and legal fees.

The only potential problem is that once you get past the theory and examine the practical with a legal eye,
you start to see that it is actually difficult to consider a smart contract as either smart or a contract and
that it is probably more accurate to drop the term smart contract; instead, referring to them as automated computer code.

Also, code works on linear decision-making and probability, but more often than not,
finding the right answer to settle a particular contractual nuance is a much more lateral process
and requires a level of creativity and flexibility that can come only from real-life experience.
To inject that depth of practical experience into code is, I would suggest, a nigh on impossible task.

This takes us on to another potential failing: If things turn sour between the contracted parties, who is there to sort things out?
There is a common myth that a smart contract cannot be litigated, but I would disagree.
As long as the heads of terms that sit behind the contracts are clear – and have clearly been accepted by the parties – there is scope to litigate
if the code is deemed not to be fit for purpose or has affected the transactions it is meant to support and/or the payments associated with those transactions.

This is, however, where things could get more complicated. 
As there is currently no international internet law,
the original contract would have to set out the jurisdictions of the parties and which country’s law the contract is reliant upon.
Again, these aren’t decisions that code can make, so these definitions and agreements would have to be made by people, quite possibly with specialist legal advice. 

And that is why I don’t believe that smart contracts in their current form can be considered smart or contracts.
As I said earlier, I don’t want this to come across as just another defensive letter of self-preservation from a lawyer in fear of losing fees.
As an experienced litigator who has fought for years to ensure my clients always get the best possible protection from their commercial contracts,
it concerns me is that an idea or even just a buzzword could lead numerous businesses into difficult and potentially very costly situations
just because they had bought into the next big thing.

 

FYI:
More Accurate
Smart Contracts = Suckers Hype

Without 3rd party verification of IDs , Age requirements, Mental Stability Guidelines, consent to the local laws of whichever government they are in,
You are looking at a hard fork every time a judge rules a contract was invalid.   

[Spoetnik]

All i am hearing is mining1 dodging the questions that are repeatedly put on him.
Then he makes up bullshit with fabricated false numbers.. again (exactly like Minecache)
The guy (and his doppelganger account) is a CHRONIC liar and a fraud.

And lets see a picture of this clown.. see we can mock him incessantly.

I am never for or against Spartak but he does seem intelligent unlike the deceitful miningFraud boys.
We agree sometimes and others not so much LOL
Which is perfectly fine because we can act like adults and have a conversation about Crypto.
With out lying and childish insults.

mining1 your numbers are bullshit.. back your mouth up if your making bold claims.

Further more i can see you need to lookup what the word decentralized means.
Because apparently no mater how many times you are told you still do not get it.

Please spew more dumb shit.. it's clearly doing wonders for your glorious ETH cause.
Funny part is i bet the miningFraud boys have done more Damage to ETH than my "FUD" ever has.
I know that because i seen a bunch of guys say that here recently explicitly.

I agree with Spartak's assertion.. we are seeing manipulation STILL.
Yup.. terribly decentralized LOL
A coin ....an ICO coin, manipulated heavily since day 1 is ooohhhh soooo decentralized  

Butters + Friends = magic wand waiving fraudsters pushing an ICO "scheme coin" ..for $$$
How do we know ? Because he dumped a million dollars worth of his coins on his supporters.
Where & How did he get them and all his other coins and WHY did he dump them ?
Those who know.. are STILL tight lipped no matter how many times this is asked.

PS:
@mining1
Tell us all how many accounts you have logged into here.
Me ? ONE !

[mining1]

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

[Minecache]

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

Ignore the Spoetniktard sockie trollposts dude, it's not worth your time and energy. Remember you can easily identify them as troll shitposts because only a snowflake fucktard idiot would care about a tech that they have zero investment in.

[ImHash]

In exchanges a few traders are trading ETH all the time to lure people in buying, yes of course you can earn some bucks trading small amounts but in big scale it's all manipulations.

[mining1]

So if people buy or sell ether it is manipulation ? LOL.

[Minecache]

So if people buy or sell ether it is manipulation ? LOL.

I know. You couldn't make it up the fud these haters spread.

[Alternative]

So if people buy or sell ether it is manipulation ? LOL.

I know. You couldn't make it up the fud these haters spread.

Is it a joke mate ? I've never saw a worst fudder than you and your Ethereum Classic hate, but I should say the "Criminal coin" to make you understand !

[Exsumane]

So if people buy or sell ether it is manipulation ? LOL.

I know. You couldn't make it up the fud these haters spread.

It does not matter if there are many fuders in the forum. It seems that the ETH and ETC has survived clearly.

[Spoetnik]

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

Playing dumb ?

You know damn well the Staff here would never in a million years divulge that information to me if i asked let alone if you gave them permission explicitly.

You and your suspicious doppelganger account are a scammy sleazy shady secretive little deceitful fraud.
You make me sick.. you showed up here to peddle your scammy little ICO scheme coin scam.
..from the shadows. ..making damn sure you hide every possible info about yourselves.

Your bum buddy admits to dumping ETC coins on Poloniex then he goes on..
to keep posting spammy Topics on ETH all year long then makes a ton of them about
ETC being a criminal coin and says ohhh.. dumping them on Polo is not "Support"

You had them and sold them you fucking fraud.

And i know you are a fraud because all of Crypto said so.
We ran a Poll and it was unanimous until you showed up and voted once for "NO"
Other than that this whole entire section said you were full of shit.
and yet.. you STILL plow on with your same old idiotic shenanigans here.

This whole entire section laughs at you and mocks you and you simply act like it's not happening.
Your best ETH defense ?
Insulting Spartak over his profile picture  

Your days are numbered.
You WILL be exposed.. i guarantee you are higher up on the ETH team and sooner or later we are going to figure it out ..no matter how bad you hide it and when that happens you are REALLY going to look like scammy fraudsters.

ETH = $100 in 12 months you two said 6 months ago and the clock is ticking..

PS:

IBM
Big Banks
Microsoft

[Minecache]

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

Playing dumb ?

You know damn well the Staff here would never in a million years divulge that information to me if i asked let alone if you gave them permission explicitly.

You and your suspicious doppelganger account are a scammy sleazy shady secretive little deceitful fraud.
You make me sick.. you showed up here to peddle your scammy little ICO scheme coin scam.
..from the shadows. ..making damn sure you hide every possible info about yourselves.

Your bum buddy admits to dumping ETC coins on Poloniex then he goes on..
to keep posting spammy Topics on ETH all year long then makes a ton of them about
ETC being a criminal coin and says ohhh.. dumping them on Polo is not "Support"

You had them and sold them you fucking fraud.

And i know you are a fraud because all of Crypto said so.
We ran a Poll and it was unanimous until you showed up and voted once for "NO"
Other than that this whole entire section said you were full of shit.
and yet.. you STILL plow on with your same old idiotic shenanigans here.

This whole entire section laughs at you and mocks you and you simply act like it's not happening.
Your best ETH defense ?
Insulting Spartak over his profile picture  

Your days are numbered.
You WILL be exposed.. i guarantee you are higher up on the ETH team and sooner or later we are going to figure it out ..no matter how bad you hide it and when that happens you are REALLY going to look like scammy fraudsters.

ETH = $100 in 12 months you two said 6 months ago and the clock is ticking..

PS:

IBM
Big Banks
Microsoft

You really should start taking your meds again because your vile paranoid fud is plumbing new depths of despair. And I say that to you as a concerned fellow human being. As your trust rating is plummeting through the floor it's clear to all and sundry that your extreme paranoia is making you post lie after fud after lie. So you missed the ETH train. Be a man and just suck it up. No one likes a sore loser. Especially a mentally challenged one.

[Spoetnik]

Ask a moderator to tell you, dumbass. Funny thing is, i was skipping your post as usual, but since there was no post under yours, that question caught my eye.

Playing dumb ?

You know damn well the Staff here would never in a million years divulge that information to me if i asked let alone if you gave them permission explicitly.

You and your suspicious doppelganger account are a scammy sleazy shady secretive little deceitful fraud.
You make me sick.. you showed up here to peddle your scammy little ICO scheme coin scam.
..from the shadows. ..making damn sure you hide every possible info about yourselves.

Your bum buddy admits to dumping ETC coins on Poloniex then he goes on..
to keep posting spammy Topics on ETH all year long then makes a ton of them about
ETC being a criminal coin and says ohhh.. dumping them on Polo is not "Support"

You had them and sold them you fucking fraud.

And i know you are a fraud because all of Crypto said so.
We ran a Poll and it was unanimous until you showed up and voted once for "NO"
Other than that this whole entire section said you were full of shit.
and yet.. you STILL plow on with your same old idiotic shenanigans here.

This whole entire section laughs at you and mocks you and you simply act like it's not happening.
Your best ETH defense ?
Insulting Spartak over his profile picture  

Your days are numbered.
You WILL be exposed.. i guarantee you are higher up on the ETH team and sooner or later we are going to figure it out ..no matter how bad you hide it and when that happens you are REALLY going to look like scammy fraudsters.

ETH = $100 in 12 months you two said 6 months ago and the clock is ticking..

PS:

IBM
Big Banks
Microsoft

You really should start taking your meds again because your vile paranoid fud is plumbing new depths of despair. And I say that to you as a concerned fellow human being. As your trust rating is plummeting through the floor it's clear to all and sundry that your extreme paranoia is making you post lie after fud after lie. So you missed the ETH train. Be a man and just suck it up. No one likes a sore loser. Especially a mentally challenged one.

Allow me to devour you whole..
although i don't want to because every time i have in the last year you puss out and hide like a bitch LOL

Med's ?
Implying i am nuts ? Sure... why not.. does that affect the validity of my comments (FUD) ?
noooooope ..facts are facts.

I point out the long list of things you have been caught saying here on the forum and you say.. i am crazy ?
Well i say you are a lying fraudster playing dumb.

Vile Paranoid FUD ?
Hmm has Ethereum had any attackers ? Ever heard of DAO ?
SO.... uhhhhh.... when do YOU in fact have Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt about your invested money ?
Because if what we have seen so far is not enough then i don't know what is !
AKA: Playing dumb again.

New Depths ?
There is no "new" depths here fraudboy i have repeated the same comments and questions for a year.
And you have been dodging them just the same all along.. this is not new.

Despair ?
Over what ? warning people Butters might dump again ?

My trust rating is plummeting ?
Uhhmm no it has not changed since last year.. where the Monero retards negged me for posting news on the Police in France.

Monero shills are idiots.

And the other thing was VOD calling me a Pedo because i dared make a joke about people from Alberta.
The deranged fucking wacko apparently does not have a sense of humor and rampaged on me following me around for months trolling me hard all over the forum.. even in this section which was blatant because he never does comment here.. over & over he would show up and call me names and leave.
And what was he grand Negative rating excuse ?
I made a topic on hot chicks in porn these days.. knowing full well it would TRIGGER all you anti-piracy pricks because it happened on my other previous piracy related topics.
SO because i posted some pics from public sites of porn girls who had their ID verified in his mind that was child porn.
And if it was then i would wager 1 billion people on earth are guilty then too.. because in case you didn't not notice PORN happens to be popular  

Translation:
Anyone who visits the below NSFW link is a child porn purveyor of smut and fornication  
https://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=4

Every second 28,258 users are watching pornography on the internet

https://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/digital-family-life/internet-pornography-by-the-numbers

There is NOTHING wrong with my "Trust Rating" here.

And no i am not done with you quite yet fraud boy

Paranoid ? Lied ?
What am i paranoid about and what did i ever lie about ?

FUD ?
Yup.. because it is warranted and appropriate given the circumstance and the context of the Altcoin / ETH situation.
Your denial that it is not reasonable is highly deceitful.

Missed the ETH train ?
I don't trade criminal coins for profit like you admitted to doing here .. remember ?
Remember saying ETC is a criminal coin and you dumped them on Polo for profit ?
Well.. fraud boy.. i don't trade ICO scam coins for money.
I leave that up to you.. so carry on bragging that i missed the train unlike you bag holder.
Ohhh and missed ?
I think you "missed" the train sweety ETH was well over $20 a coin and now it's lucky to hold onto $12
Your train hit a fucking brick wall HAHHHAHAHHA  

Be a man ?
Show me your balls.

I have told everyone around Crypto my ages and where i am from etc
Have you ?
I bet my left unshaved nut i am twice your age kid (i only shave the left one to confuse my GF)
Besides is trading ICO scam coins manly ?  

No one likes a sore loser ?
Exactly ..look in the mirror fraud BOY.  

PS:
You never did answer the question.. you simply caused a diversion.
How many accounts have you logged into here ?

PPS:
People this fraud has told us here we should invest in Ethereum because "Big Banks" are buying shitload of ETH ..after spending ages spamming us about how ETH is being used by Microsoft & IBM.
SO when is the last time you heard that ? cough cough Azure  
Derpty derpty derp goes the fraud.. ETH be worth $100 a coin in 6 months !!!!111ONE OMGBBQ
Fucking fraud LOL


EDIT:

VOD used this link for the trust rating.. [P2P] Ever Wanted to Ask a Pirate Questions ?

..look yourself people.
See any child porn proof ?

And his other rating ?
Was a claim i was on "Welfare" and that was i am 100% certain because someone whispered in his ear..
almost 4 years earlier i had said i was on Disability not working with Back problems.
So.. how he managed to find that out i have no idea because Cryptsy does not store chat logs.
Further more it is also 100% impossible to prove.
Nor have i posted ever since if i was or was not on "assistance"
So his claims were 100% unprovable bullshit..
He also called me an "Indian" who lives on a reservation and that he paid pays my taxes etc.
I have since stated my taxes have been paid in full for one decade+ and i am not an Indian nor am i on welfare.

How that retard has any credibility around here i have no idea..
He is a racist mouthy little scumbag... from Alberta LOL
And all of that over a joke.. he failed to "get"

Oh and i find it funny he is sooooo good at digging up dirt on me with that 4 yr old chatbox comment that he got the wrong link for his EVIDENCE of my child porn activity..
He in fact meant this one [NSFW] [XXX] Up & Cummers

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