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After the ICONOMI, i feel like there's no better project these days which we can look forward to in the future except these coins that aren't really making a huge difference to the existing ones. So among the existing ICOs today which did you put your money to?

If you're asking which project will bring decent ROI, it's really hard to tell. I think that LuckChain is overlooked. It has working wallet and less than 200 BTC invested currently. (This is not an investment advice).

There is a few coins on rock bottom. No need for more scams. Money can be made without ico.

Ico = cancer  

in my opinion you are better looking at current coins on the exchange that have been made already. Look what has good prospects for the future and has a community already.

ICO could lose you a lot of money if they don't even create a product or even scam.

I would never touch an ICO. *80% of the time when the coins get released on the exchange they are lower than ICO value anyway.

*not an accurate statistic, but from personal opinion and from what I have seen

I would recommend investing in ICONOMI tokens (ICN - It's a Ethereum blockchain based token). ICO finished a few days ago but the price isn 't different much from ICO price. It doesn't mean that you won't be making any profit. Tokens is basically 100% control over the platform (It means you are a shareholder of a % of the platform)
When they start ICONOMI.INDEX and ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE (at the end of the year) you will be making profit without even spending any ICN (the more you have the better) as you will be receiving dividends paid in Ethereum ! (that should boost the ICN price too and you could decide whether to sell them or not).
It may look a little bit complicated to you but It's easy to understand , just take a look here https://ico.iconomi.net/ (read FAQ and everything) and If you have any questions feel free to ask ASK here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.0

Most recent ICO have underperformed in the market so far including ICONOMI, though I believe the crash in price of these tokens was due to bounty dumpers taking quick profits at any price. Wings and Vdice seem both promising and well though off, you can read their whitepaper to get better understanding of both projects

I already have about 8k of ICN on my account actually. Invested to it before it launches and got the rest from blog bounty. I am also hoping ICN will really go up to and holders will receive dividends.

almost all of them are shit and as barry silbert mentioned recently the sec is gonna start exterminating them soon. I dunno how many developers are anonymous but I hope most of them are.

If people start to give their advices, don't follow them. If someone has a lucky plan, don't count on him to shout it everywhere.

Not exactly an ICO but Mojocoin is pretty much at rock bottom with regards to price and they have a strong team and a plan it seems

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366963.0

Crypto currency ICO is the hot new moneymaker.
Teams of devs are going to be cranking out shitcoins like never before, especially after what happened with Zcash.
I expect 99 out of 100 coins produced in the next year or two to be total vaporware that gets pumped, dumped, and disappears in a matter of months.

I'm not sure this is alway's true there are a few coin's if I would have listened I would have mad massive profit's.  Then again I would have lost on almost all of them.  So a few diamonds in  there... but hitting them very very hard.

One thing to add is if you see referral take even less notice.  Some do referral spam saying X is great! Here use my link.    I pretty much do ignore all of those.

like I said, whoever's offering this stuff had better stay in the shadows because this is the type of thing the SEC comes down on like a ton of bricks. doesn't matter what country you're in, if one American gets involved then it's on their radar.

all the eth, dao and similar people might get a very nasty surprise in the coming months and years.

when bitcoin was a baby it was understandable that people might believe normal laws didn't apply to them. that phase is over now but I don't think very many people realize it.

In my opinion only two Ico project  so far have delivered what are in their roadmap even though they are still in their ICO period and they are Victoriouscoin and luckchain ..

These are built for long term investment check out their announcement thread and their website.

none you dumb fuck.

Mining are the hottest method for being a money maker after zcash are already launch.
you're right but pumped,dumped and disappears are the part of ico journey, and this trend will gonna happen till a few years later.

I'd have to stay save your BTC and be safe, likely will loose it all!

Don't count and don't touch ICO coins these days because all would lower than ICO value and the mystery team would disappeared over time. Everyone is just want and after that gold standard Bitcoin.

If ever there is a really great ICO, it will be obvious to you, because the amount being raised will be very tiny compared to the potential future market cap. It will be already running on testnet when you buy the ICO, so that you know you are not buying vaporware.

And the project will have a clear set of developers, market, and technology.

Right now I would be in Bitcoin, then I would look to acquire some XMR and ZEC once they bottom from their recent price spikes.

You might want to bottom fish on LTC for money you don't need to touch for a year.

Keep your eyes open for the next big thing, but don't be easily swayed to buy some hype and huge ICO that makes it very unlikely you can cash out a 10 times gain.

As always buy a combination of value and marketing prowess, and be very very skeptical so you don't buy riff-raff.

Does anyone know how much $$ the ICO of Ark.io will raise? I don't know enough details to say whether that coming Steem clone is worth making a speculative investment. They seem to rather serious, but I don't think they've really improved anything over Steem's broken model at least in terms of the onboarding and rewards payout mechanism (and math!). They may be correcting the whale concentration with a more fair ICO than Steem's sneaky "premine". Devil is in the details.

Also remember you are investing in the capabilities of the lead developer to a large extent unless the project is entirely complete and no future forks. Even then you are sort of investing in the lead developer, because it is assumed he will work on the ecosystem development. So you need to know very well the technical and marketing capabilities of the development team, especially the lead developer.

For XMR, you have fluffypony. For Bitcoin, you have Gregory Maxwell. For Zcash, you have Zooko-Wilcox. Etc...

You all ever get sick of posting these same topics non stop ?

EDIT = Good quote..


Transparency & Accountability.. LOOK for it.

Looking at Ark.io again. The (presumably French speaking) CTO from studying his LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/thoorens) appears to be from the Lisk project and before that from working with the government of Europe. Typically these sort of people are weak on technology skills and strong on creating wasteful bureaucracy. Has he spoken in English any where? Is eloquent and inspiring like Vitalik?

I very, very much doubt this guy is as technically strong as the guys I mentioned in my prior post.

I also remember Charles Hoskinson saying in his exposition about Lisk, that their core team is lacking in technical skills.

Looks like Ark.io will raise a minimum of 2000 BTC (and probably much more since Lisk raised $8 million) with 25% of the ICO for themselves and they are apparently holding 7% of the money supply as well? Details are sketchy for the moment.

The name is Ark is reasonably good. But I have a better name.

As I said, they appear to have the similar broken model for onboarding and rewards as Steem (but I only briefly scanned the whitepaper). I don't know if they copied Steem's 2 year lockin and inflation model.

This might end up being a reasonable speculation, if they can hype it out at some point. Or maybe somehow they are able to pull it all together technically and also improve on flaws of Steem over time.

But for me, I am doubting whether Lisk, Waves, and now Ark will ever amount to anything significant. I have some technical reasons which I am not going to detail, because they are for my project. Actually Waves is somewhat unrelated concept to other two, but the way it was launched claiming to be affiliated with Charles' IOHK has made me think it is not an ethically run operation.

Any way, I always get people angry at me when I comment on other projects. So remember these are only my opinions. And I will STFU.


Disclaimer: the project I am working on is a competitor to Ark. So I am biased. But I better be objective, else I am wasting my time with my project.

Yes, you did it, just watching the other people are doubling their investment. what about antshares and already got pumping more than the ico price and seems that's not bad for anyone. and what about those coins? PSB, and the another.

I'd also avoid the hyped vapor coins with lonnnng waits for launch or long windy road maps that the developer probably can't fulfill, the ico buyers end up trapped in a lot of cases when it hits the exchange and flops.

Have a look in some of the old ann threads at all of the sad bagholders still clinging to hope that their dead coin will pump at a future date down the "road map" so they can dump their bags, and they still fool themselves and gobble up cheap coins.

Don't be one of those guys.

I avoid these toxic communities like the plague.

Set yourself a realistic exit point and stick to it, unless you have a use for the coin, most of them die within a few months because there's no real users.

Saying the truth there are a lot of ICOs that are being created every month and after the Iconomi I am not seeing any other similar to icn, one ico that I saw recently has reached near 1 million dollars and that is incent, but not sure if it worth investing there now.

You have to sort through a lot of old clams to find a pearl.

This one looks interesting.

ChronoBank.io (http://ChronoBank.io)

Using smart contracts on multiple blockchains, Eth, Waves and Lisk - it is aiming to disrupt the rec-con and agency industry. Like Uber but for all gig-economy jobs.

There are a lot of interesting ICO if you are keen on observation. ARK , vDice and Incent are the three major ICO running or will run. My criteria on judging good ICO are the background of devs (credibility and experience) and their platform. I add vdice because i know that their will be a lot of supporteron their project because we all know that the majority of user here are gambling,

Just invested into Inchain, lookin at Golem and Cosmos.

I remember reading about Golem. I like the idea of a world computer to share resources with and rent it and render video faster (for example).

I just don't know if the ICO will be worth it, or it's better to wait for the usual first crash, then buy cheaper in the exchanges before another pump happens..

Hey, no one is mentioning KOMODO!

Come on guys let's cheer it up for... KOMODO

Yeee! ;D

Do we have some cheerleaders in the house? ???

have already heard of it from an advert on facebook and google but never have i seen thier ANN thread here. of all palce to promote why should they stick on facebok? That made  me think ChronoBank.io may scam people online. if they are indeed legit they should at least stay here and prove themselves worthy.

No - they haven't done a PRE-ANN and they haven't done the ANN yet on here. There is a link holder on their website along with all the other media links so I guess they will make an ANN when the time is right.  ;) They had the existing community vote for various aspects and parameters of the ICO so the ANN will be done when all is settled, I presume.

The ICO has already started, i can see it on their website.
If they wanna gather funds, its in tis forum where they can see bitcoin users who are willin to invest to a project once they see potentials and profit. Why one earth will they ever go for facebook ads.

We will be making our big announcement in the ICO department very soon.

Golem is quite interesting, i'll keep an eye to it. Inchain can really be great if the aimed funds are achieved, you can imagine how much money they can get for insurance - everyone wants security of course.  I don't have any idea what Cosmos have but will read it later. 

Hope to see someone later with better view where crypto is going and can use the blockhain for his idea.

From a trading point of view that seems reasonable, I mean I dont know why litecoin was so popular but I guess it could be again alongside bitcoin just like the old days.   That prospect seems cheap and increasingly so as bitcoin rises, but Im not confident on just where each coin sits now though and why its user base is there

Bitcoin has problems over political battles. Litcoin doesn't. The creator of Litecoin left Google to work for Coinbase.

You now why Litecoin doesn't have any problems with politics and governments? Because it is insignificant clone of Bitcoin and is not treated seriously by authorities.
Do you honestly think that old altcoin with market cap lower that $200 million will be someday great again?

When you can't get your transactions into Bitcoin block and there is a crisis, Litecoin could be a stopgap measure and see another massive spike. That is precisely the point of a bimetallic standard.

I also eyeing with this new ico project and i guess Inchain if successfully aim the needed amount hopefully they achieved and bring success.

My three picks are Incent, Wings and Vdice.

Incent: because the concept is great and seems to be the one leading that idea from the decentralising angle, most people seems not to get the concept because if not the normal blockchain/ smart contract cliche

Wings: To me these guys seems to focus on the real development when compare to the Slockit DAO where their developers turned celebrity and lose the main plot. One day someone will get the DAO concept right and I think Wings team have a chance of doing so.

Vdice: Gambing is a big industry and Bitcoin has stolen part of the market, I think Vdice can create a niche for itself on Ethereum platform and what is luring me is the reward to investors

I agree with you regarding INCENT and WINGS and have to add KOMODO, cause it's Zcash+ or Zcash 2.0 :)

Have to take a closer look at Vdice now 8)

You should consider BASH - Luckchain than Vdice. Vdice does resemble to how LIR works which had scammed BTC to its investors. BASH is different because its currently working, people are already playing  in the platform and now also hold ICO on Yobit and C-CEX.

Personally I wouldn't invest in any ICO, pure gambling, steady gains with BTC is just fine.

You don't have to invest, you will pretty much be fine with your BTC stash. But the thing is with successful ICO projects you can become even richer, even faster.
There is always a risk involved - but we have to remember that Ethereum, Waves, Augur, Lisk was released as ICO.

Same with The Dao - which was the most successful ICO crowdsale ever with over $168 million USD gathered, but we know what happened later.

tl'dr Want to earn fast buck? Invest in ICO. You want to play safe? Stay and watch, no one is forcing you to put your money on the line.

If there are no more good ICOs, then ICONOMI will itself fail. ICONOMI is dependent on more good ICOs being available.

Pro tip: Get into "Pre-ICOs". Always be aware if anyone got in before you at a cheaper price. Make sure there's a good reason for that person to be involved. Do they help out and do they have long term vision.


If you want one of the better ICOs check out my ICO. Ethereum is getting pretty bad. I would look at getting into ICOs running off of Synereo. They should be coming out next year. Luckily with the use of a meta-coin and future swap people can crowdfund with an ICO today and then launch the real coin and blockchain next year.

What was iconimi"s ico price anyway? It would be cool if someone makes a list of all ico"s so far,how much was the price during ico and current price.for example: lisk ico price-7.5c-current price-18c. and so on . I think ETH ico price and all time high was 88x  :o

Is Lisk still doing well? I thought it kind of died off? Good to hear, I suppose. As long as an ICO does well every now and then, dumbasses will continue to funnel money into them.

I Would like to recommend DECENT to invest some BTC there..I think we are know about their project..Well i cannot explain about their project.one thing ICO is almost Finished so hurry up to invest there

Im also looking for ICO to invest in. The first ICO that gets
me interests to invest in is ICONOMI. Iconomi really gives
me a profit of btc. And, now my second thought is Incent
to invest in. Hope this ICO will have a good project and
looking forward for great opportunity.

have you ever tried understanding what ICONOMI is?  ICONOMI isn't about ICOs just so you know, its a trading platform for non crypto traders.
its one of the best token so far with the pro dev team. Its the 2017 game changer by the time they release ICNX and ICNP.

As far as I know the price of iconomi at ico phase was 20-22k satoshi but people could buy cheaper if they have invested in the early weeks where the bonus were up to 15%.

better to try while the ico still open almost done we cant say what would be the results but looking for positive outcome, good luck

How about investing in ARk ,i want to hear from the experts about it since i have seen many advertisements from their team ,for me ICONOMi ICO was a successful investment for me,but the price at the moment is well below the ICO price but i hope it will rise in future