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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

You're obviously being sarcastic. People have different ways of doing things that seems completely normal, and that will aways create conflict when forced to live with each other. The only way it wouldn't be a problem is if more people were concerned with others and their feelings.

Why should anyone accept migrants? Countries in the Middle East and the Sub Saharan Africa must practice family planning and stop dumping their excess population elsewhere.

It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

Agree, by integrating they should respect their host county and following its laws and observed its customs. In that way a conflict is avoided. In the first place, a host country is living peacefully until the migrants are introduced.

Not at all sarcastic. Sorry. So you aren't not only a cultural relativist but a believer in a western cultural supremacy with you as its central referal center. Are you gonna ban fgm or abortion?

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition. Those have the choice to perish (assimilate) or fight (and perish).

The thieves can't survive among the merchants.

If there is a need to respect the local customs and traditions, then the migrants will respect them. Examples are countries such as Russia, Qatar, and Japan. On the other hand, in countries such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom, the migrants don't feel like they need to respect the local customs and traditions.

I call it bullshit because in every single of the above named nations alien criminals live and do criminal activities (especially russian mafia).

Why generalize. There are normal migrants, who do not become criminals, and not try to impose their own traditions to local residents.

Ohh, that is about You need to integrate in Sharia Law.
You need be elastic.

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That depends upon the level of education of the immigrants. Unfortunately, countries such as the UK and the US prefer uneducated and often illiterate immigrants from the third world countries. These immigrants are not very interested in integrating with the majority population, and tend to live in ghettos predominantly populated by their own ethnic group.

Like here?

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Every chinese with name Hui is muslim. (In Russian it mean Dick)

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"Hui" is not a surname. It is the name of the ethnic group. The most common surnames for Hui people are Ma, Mu, Ha, Sai, Sha.etc. China knows how to integrate its Muslim population. There have been very few incidents of Islamic terror in mainland China, and the Muslim population there is stable for the last many decades.

I do not immigrants. But if I come to a foreign country, it would not impose the public traditions. I would be grateful that I took a foreign country and tried to not to offend anyone

The sarcasam is strong with this op.

You just dont hear it because their problems with buddhist monks in tibet, christians and falun gong members in mainland china are overshadowing it.

If migrants want to live in that country, they have to integrate and respect local laws, people and etc. But on the other hand they have to protect their national identity, traditions, but it shouldn't be against local laws.

If You goes to China, do You will eat dog and cat meat to be integrated?
Why people from outside China or Corea give unwanted lessons about what to eat and what to eat not for a chinese?

Grrr!!! Why can't you believe me... Integration is for the weak! You know veni, vidi, vinci! Or rephrased I came to your country, I saw you as a bunch of pussified men, I defeated you and impose my culture on you (or killed you).

Now what was yours is mine!

Take for example the conquest of America by the Muslim brotherhood... look the natives in Egypt killed them.


No are you fucking crazy? No one will force you to eat anything in China! There is enough kind of food for one new meal for the rest of your entire life... however you will not invite yourself in China... illegal domestic migrants are on things... foreigners (ahaha).


It's true that for civilized people the difference is quite small... it's funny that you put integrate before the law. What I don't understand is people who leave their country of birth with no intention to return but still live in its cultural sphere in a foreign country.



Lol the dalalylama got you... the king of the tibetans was always under Chinese mgmt. he always knew where the power was. However I don't think he spoke to you about how the relation between women and the dalailama was... but in all event this territory control a large flow of the water of China. As such no foreigner will control it. This is part of the red line of China... and if it means 20 millions death on the Chinese side, go. But rest assured there will be no enemies left.

Are you for real? So where ever you are from, you would think is ok for foreigners to go there and push their customs on to your countries culture? Of is it only if it's customs that you believe in that should be pushed?

If there are no backlash... cultural Darwinism... asks the yazidis about their proud culture... most of their women have been enslaved (which means social exclusion).

They want to make you believe the world is lawfull... rememebr the husband of the next president raped children.

You have difficulty to conceptualize violence. Absolutely pussified. Woman matrix force them to renounce violence to adapt faster to their new masters.

This can be a good model of integration. However, we all know that the Chinese government is imposing control especially in the past and that can be a big reason why the integration is successful. I think the government here is not letting the Muslim population get out of bounds plus it can be giving some necessary attention to the populace so they are eking a living peacefully.

+ massive immigration to build the western gate way to the Silk Road... hehehe. All attempt at imposing what ever over china will be crushed.

In my opinion, migrants should not only integrate, its just essential and important for them to just integrate because you as a migrant is coming to a new environment which is different from your own origin or believe. Their own way of life is also different at the same time their moral value is equally  and certainly different so if a migrant wants to live in that situation, its just important for integration or else he will be labelled as a deviant.

Question: what happen to some one doing a fgm in China? Or a forced wedding? Or sexual behavior with children? Or use segregated account money?

There are incompatiblities between culture!!!

My opinion is - do not put a person to forget their traditions and customs. We need to respect and support no matter where you live. But try not to infringe on the rights and interests of others

Arriving in a foreign country immigrant agrees that it accepts the values existing in this country. If he comes in and imposes its own rules that is the occupier.

Minorities always suffer in society. Is it not better to have consensus? to have one nation under one flag?
I don't think separation of citizens is a good thing. (Armenian genocide in Turkey, Jewish genocide in Germany).

Thanks! It makes sense ;)


Consensus on what?

Consensus between the citizens, rule of law and society.

And in some States no? Man is an animal and in nature the larger the pack the more chance of survival. The law of nature.

Why do they have to impose their views. I think that either they accept the conditions of the country in which is located either let them go home.

You talk about forcing others to accept your belief but then you talk about free will. You must pick one or the other as your basis.

Absolutely, but thats the main problem. They do not want to accept western culture style of living but want to impose theirs and it won't end well for one side.

It's not true to judge belief by name, there's a lot of people with hui in name but most of them are not Muslim.
But unfortunately Muslim is growing in China as even some colleges have to set up a Muslim zone in canteen.

People should be loyal to each other and to other religions. No need to be hostile to migrants. They hostage situation

No no! It is only in self defense.

It isn't self defense if you are going to their home and trying to force your ideology on the inhabitants.

How would we be able to live without having them integrated in our country? A migrant that doesn't integrate means many disadvantages for us. They would then not agree with our ideas, will do whatever they want and so on. I mean the exact scenario that can be seen right now in Germany.

When did I wrote that I was doing it?

A typical example of incitement to ethnic hatred. First not all Muslim countries live under Sharia law, and secondly calm down Trump lost the election.

I believe that all people should be integrated into the society in which they live. If not then there will be problems. And migrants are no exception.

For a comfortable life need adaptation to most. If you are unable to perceive the principles of majority you have no chance to live in society. Albinos do not like.

I also think that immigrants who do not want to integrate into the society of the country in which they reside constitute a danger to society and should be expelled from the country.

There are completely different migrants. If migrants like as it is done in Germany, it can bring great harm to the country. And if they are hiring where you do not want to go to work local then it could be useful.

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

Totally agree with you. Integration of migrants will contribute to the development of the economy of the country in which they live and work.

Integration is difficult and will never be 100% perfect for immigrants. At the very least, they should mind their own business and be respectful to their new home country.

They can contribute on the both countries, the country they lived by sending money to any family member or relatives, and the country they actually live by paying taxes and other things. Maybe they become richer but not as much happy as they were in the country they left.

There is a different country. I think that the person loves the country in which to live and which will live well by his children. In many countries problems even with food.

I think that for integration it is necessary to consider religion. Muslims are very difficult to integrate into Christian society.

They struggle to integrate because they do not want to integrate.

I don't know why Muslim country doesn't accept refugees from Syria even if they have the same religion? they are now being fed by the government who give them asylum and now they are lucky as of now having big chance of getting a new citizenship. Not being a racist just saying "life is unfair" .

The main reason why people leave a country is because they have problems in the country they live in.
When people go to another country to live there and behave like they still were in their old country, nothing changes for them.
And then migrating makes no sense. If you want change, you have to change yourself as well.

They aint giving out social benefits like Germany or UK.

IF they choose to integrate and work actually, but most of them are going to UK, Germany, Swe, just because of benefits. if they we're fighting isis like they were fighting border patrols to get in one country, they could have do something, but I guess islam and homeland is not important when some other country is giving out free benefits.