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Updated with current specs, always pushing the limits like most of us... I've been manufacturing an 8 GPU rig for a few months now, as a follow-on to 4 and 6 GPU open frame rigs I've been making for a few years... Initially this unit used Radeon 380s and now Radeon 470/480s. Some may have seen it listed on ebay, I sell some there but it's primarily for the exposure, most units are sold direct to large farm operators who are running 50+ units at a time.

I do sell to individual miners as well and have been doing that for some time, posting this to share some details on the system and make it available via the forums.

The units run a fully custom Linux load, or a customized version of ethOS depending on the end users coin, they can mine most anything as with any GPU rig, given how many GPUs are in the system I sometimes need to customize the miner or it's launcher so it runs properly. Web based configuration provided, no need to SSH into the system to change wallet/pool, or other common settings. Most miners are shipped pre-configured at the request of the customer so they are plug and play.

Prices start at $3600 USD + shipping for single systems and go down under $3,000 as the quantity goes up. Payment via cashiers check, wire transfer, BTC, ETH, Credit Card via Paypal (verified billing/shipping address) all supported.

Systems are manufactured and shipped from the east coast of the US, worldwide shipping available. Turn around time before shipping averages 5 business days, however, a number of large orders have been recently placed so please reach out to confirm lead time.

ETH: 235Mh/s ~1160W, ~1260W when dual mining
ZEC: 2100H/s ~1160W
XMR: 6400H/s ~950W

These shots are from my 380 unit, 470 unit almost identical minus change in cards, use of EVGA G2 1300, and some strengthening of the chassis in my latest model revision to better handle shipping...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5626/30923077656_3cbbd405d7_z_d.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5556/30828835772_bc7038e310_z_d.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5350/25309689999_730757c76e_z_d.jpg

Hi, You say you made this case?

it looks oddly familiar.  How long did it take to paint?  or are you simply reselling them?

https://i.imgur.com/bmz2DHN.jpg?1

http://i66.tinypic.com/263ttzt.jpg

thanks!

Fitting 8 GPU using commodity components in a 4U chassis, of course there are similarities but if you want to get down to it there is a long list of differences.. I am quite aware of Gray Matter,
and they are quite aware of me as well, no ill will on either side, but thanks for asking..

ok , yea they have an 8 card model as well, just making sure that you note that.

what are your differences if i might ask?

thanks!

seems new concept, case cloning instead of coin cloning if bucky is right

@padrino
can you reply to buckrogers, are you reselling this case and do you manufacture it by word meaning you have warehouse/storehouse full of them? Can you post a pic and location? You reffer to large farm operators, which, this cant be a secret.

Aren't these the Gray Matter cases?
http://www.miningrigs.net/?product=graymatter-gpu-server-case-v2-1 (http://www.miningrigs.net/?product=graymatter-gpu-server-case-v2-1)

What changes have been made on yours to allow 8 GPUs to fit? You can do that with the Gray Matter cases as well with one shift of the rail.

Just wondering what's different.

Can you sell the case itself?

I have the same motherboard, MSI Z97 Gaming 5.

Mind if I ask how you got 8 GPUs to work on a 7 PCI slot motherboard?

Thanks!

I would think with something like this from the original manufacturer:

http://www.miningrigs.net/?product=pci-e-port-multiplier

thanks!

I've tried that multiplier, doesn't work. I plugged 6 GPUs and 1 multiplier.
The multiplier wouldn't recognize more that 1 GPU.

If I plug in 5 GPUs, the multiplier will recognize 2 GPUs.

No matter what I tried, total GPUs is still 7.

Maybe the OP has some special software.

thanks!

maybe? lol
maybe the OP can state , instead of speculation?

Thanks!

Away with family for Thanksgiving so I am not watching the forums as close as usual.. It's a combination of hardware, firmware, and software mods to make it all work... Took quite a bit of time to figure it all out and code up what was needed, that is part of the value proposition for the systems.

Not looking to get into a pissing match over how close or different they are, obviously dumping the same components on the table, and fitting them in a 4U case in the least cost model results in a similar layout, no way around that. This case has a different face plate (laser cut aluminum) to negate the use of fan grills with integrated rack ears, from the pictures different orientation of GPUs, one vs. two PSUs, different overall dimensions, this one is made specific to my hardware configuration and doesn't handle reference GPUs and other longer ones, no bottom plates used.

With respect to the request for pictures, I'm asking a couple of the hosts that handle a bunch to make posts so it's not all coming from me.

Oregon Mines hosts loads of the BitFuel 8 GPU machines. If you aren't sure what the difference is between this and the Grey 6 GPU rig , PM us.

We know who makes both machines, we also make machines. We're aware that many people might know how to assemble the 8 GPU parts, but very few have the chops to keep them running. It's not your standard six, and yes, it's far harder than 8, especially while maintaining the integrated HDMI.

We've hosted these since 160 , now they are 230 , and even today we are opening new ones. If you reference this thread for hosting, I'll knock 10% off the list price per unit hosted.

- Happy Holidays from OregonMines

Most likely using a M.2 to PCI-e adapter.
I checked, the MSI Gaming 5 motherboard's M.2 slot shares bandwidth between the SATA 5 & 6 slots.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0182NRGYO/

Bought one off amazon, I'll let ya'll know if it works.

https://s11.postimg.org/5q5bdsbub/Pci_adpater.jpg


Look what I found. 8 GPU secret revealed! :)

Wow, a lot of unnecessary heat on this thread.  Padrino is a stand up guy and I have done business with him multiple times without issue.  He sells quality goods.  If you want to talk about something worthwild I would suggest something useful and not Padrinos integrity.

I build a ton of rigs and 8 GPU rigs are not the easiest to assemble.  On a side note, I do not use 8 GPU rigs because of PSU limitations and choose 7 GPU rigs instead.  There are a number of advantages to doing 7 GPU rigs that are not available on 8 GPU rigs.

For starters there is the need for extra hardware like adapters on most 8 GPU rigs.  Secondly and more important to me is the power usage of the system.  I am doing 1600h/s mining Zcash at 900 watts and can bump that up to an easy 1750h/s using around 1050 watts.  Now switching to Dual Eth bumps up the wattage considerably and the PSU requirements.  This can be seen in BuckRodgers picture above where he is using god knows how much power to power 6 GPU's.  On my rigs I can easily manage Dual Mining with room to spare using a 1500 watt PSU and it is future proof.  Now if I add in an 8th GPU I am still WAY under the 1500 limit even Dual Mining and could approach 2000+ h/s mining zcash and Dual mining but it takes away my ability to possibly mine other coins that require large amounts of power.  I prefer to play it safe and stay with 1500 watt units and 7 GPU's and leave a 20% buffer on my PSU's.

The kicker is I write all my ROMS and unless you are good at writing ROM's then 8 large GPU's is not saving any cash because most people would need 2 PSU's unless they have custom ROM's.  I do not doubt that Padrino has that capability as it is obvious from using a small PSU on 8 380's that would not normally be using  1500 watts on stock settings.

Lastly-- the number of GPU's per rig is not as important as the $/hash or the hash/watt.

So what are you saying?
That if you get this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0182NRGYO/
Then you can get 8 GPU's to be operational in a configuration just like this one?

I missed this question earlier in the thread, it comes up a lot, however not currently interested in selling just the case.

It doesn't work. Windows recognizes and installs the driver for the 8th GPU, but there's an exclamation point in device manager.
It says something about not enough resources. The 8th GPU wont be used.

Max I got to work with Windows 10 on MSI Z97 Gaming 5 is 7 GPUs.

You should try with ubuntu-16.04.1 or something similar ;)

It's not a big secret, its funny how many different threads I see with people trying to uncover the mystery of what I did.. I've said a number of times it's the hardware, in short the correct M.2 card, the BIOS (which does need changes for 3XX and 4XX cards due to resource requirements), and a proper OS setup.... A variant of Windows 10 will work, or most recent versions of Linux provided the BIOS has been fixed...

can you not just plug pci-e risers into a usb 3 hub?

While I am no PCIe riser expert, the fact that there is a USB cable in the picture doesn't mean that it's got USB protocol on it. I expect that the USB cable is strictly a cheap way to carry the PCIe signals on it to the other end. As a result a USB hub won't work in this application.

Would you sell a 6 or 7 GPU config system _without_ the PSU? I can get a bunch of cheap EVGA 1300 PSUs so I can save a bit of $ going with a lower power draw configuration. Ideally I'd like power draw at the wall to be 900 Watts roughly while dual mining.

And I would love to host a few units with you.  ;D

Sure you can do that as we still have a bit of capacity left, but not much.

All of the 470/480 units use 1300 EVGA PSUs for exactly that reason, the efficiency cost really works well for them.. The pictures in the thread are from the tuned 380 units that didn't need the additional PSU overhead... I have a functional setup with server PSUs as well, helps me shave the component cost some more and lower unit cost some.. I haven't moved out on it yet due to supply chain unpredictability with the server PSUs but continuing to work it..

I can sell units with less GPUs but generally after people look at the numbers they end up back at 8 due to the cost per Mh..

Well, I did some shoddy math and pci-e 1x only uses 250M/s transfer speeds. usb 3.0 or 3.1 should be able to accommodate that...powering the gpu is done externally anyways?

internet research indicates that the REAL bottleneck is pci-e lanes on your cpu's chipset. not the amount of pcie slots on the motherboard.

I find it hard to believe that a usb 3.0/.1 riser card couldn't handle a gpu.

That is correct, in the case of USB risers, its USB form factor only because its inexpensive to produce.. Its native PCIe 1x over the cable with the various required signaling pins mapped across the cable

We are selling the case, pm me for details http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mining-frame-rig-eth-zcash-/282367936592?nav=SELLING_ACTIVE

No ill will confirmed.  Bitworks has a nice product and focuses on fully built out rigs while we like to keep it to just the cases.

This guy though, what even is this?  Did he just gut a server case and try to resell it?

How does this work?
$3500 miner... calculator tell's me $1800 profit in a year if everything stays even... Who would possibly buy this? :(

too expensive i rather go cloud mining with metizer cheap hashing power with free 100 gh/s

Don't get me wrong I love the system
but for a near 2 year roi IF rates stay the same and difficulty... no idea how we could do that.
and seeing as I don't see great leaps in gpu's coming any time soon..

It is a very pretty system haha :)

Obviously it depends on the situation, your power being a big play above and beyond cost.. with that said most buyers buy at least a handful at once, bringing the cost per unit down a few hundred.. Largest buyers have 100+ units each and keep adding to their holdings, obviously volume pricing much better...

Hi all, 

I just stumbed upon this product and I think it looks very interesting boasting some impressive hash rates. 

If we compare to another mining rig that has 4 x rx480s
http://r.ebay.com/cIARri
Pretend we bought 2 of those rigs (so 8 gpus total) doing just under 100 mh/s a rig each on eth then this Bitworks machine still out performs those 2 rigs by 15% with 230 mh/s on eth. 

I am new in the gpu market and wonder if this is achieved with a different gpu or if over clocking?  If overclocked what effect does that have on the power usage especially as the psu has 8 cards to power...
Do the fans on the cards have to be turned down to ensure everything runs smoothly?   
My main concern is the longevity of the machine if power is being taken away from cooling especially looking at how close those cards are compared to other rigs.  Also due to heat rising would it be wiser to put these units horizontal rather than vertical?

I am not trying to slate the product, in fact I hope the questions get answers to show me this isn't a "too good to be true" product because I am a buyer in the market looking to invest and I just don't want to get my hands burned on a product that may die after 6-12 months due to poor cooling / overheating cards. 

I own over 100 of these units, and can attest that heat is no issue whatsoever. 

About gpu temperatures? 8 gpus in same case so close, i would like to know if they can be so freesh compared with 7 gpu case.

Under-volt, overclock, custom BIOS and components. You can't compare a stock rig from eBay with something purpose built and tweaked by someone who knows what they are doing and uses the same components for 100s of rigs.

Hello board members,

Does anyone have any problem contacting bitworks owner after payment was sent to bitworks?

When did you order your units?

I bought two "FUEL 4U Rack Mount 8 GPU Server" from BitWorks, and I paid it all with transfer wise on April 27th.

Brian Raymond the owner of BitWorks, has confirmed the receipt of the payment, but from April 27 (nearly a month ago) I have not received anything yet.

I'm sending two emails per week asking for information but many times he does not answer.

On May 17 he gave me a tracking code of DHL, but to date, the parcel has not yet been picked up.

I've spent $ 8,327 in this order: $ 6,800 for the two miners, and $ 1,527 for shipment (I did not ask for discounts).

For now I would not recommend Bitworks, it's been almost a month and I have not received anything yet.

If I will receive the miners, I'll write it here.

Please keep us updated on this situation

Curious.

OP says to reach out to confirm lead time because of large pending orders. Was this done and did he provide a lead time prior to or after your order was placed? Was the deadline, if any, exceeded?

Did your M.2 adapter do the trick?

Sure, as soon as the miners is delivered to me, I'll write it here.


Well, I do not think (and I hope) that BitWorks is a scam, but I do not think they have great customer service.

On May 1st sent me an email saying it will start working on miners in the coming days.

To date it has not yet been shipped, I would have preferred to know in advance that it would take so long to receive the miners.

Any update from users who are using this? how is it?

I have done business with Brian for years.  He makes a great product, but can be slow to respond at times. 

Speaking from experience, he is most definitely not a scammer.  My hunch is that he has MUCH more demand than he can handle at the moment, and therefor communications suffers. 

Yes yochdog, I think the same, I have not tried them yet, but seems that Brian sells great miners. Especially since they are plug and play.

The only problem is the time it takes to get miners.


Well, when I made the payment I asked how long it took for shipping, and just did not answer me.

Maybe it was my mistake not exactly set the terms of shipment.
But it is not a question of nuclear engineering, it is a simple gpu miner (And I only bought two units).

Anyway, if I have news, and when I get the miners I'll write it here.

just want to mention, that if he uses rx570/580, then there may be delay because companies can't supply enough of those cards yet.

i'm from canada and i have 2 rx570 BO from exactly a month now, and i would love to order 12 more right away but no one has in stock.
they all say; place your orders and we will ship asap. but why would i do that and start paying interest on my CC...
anyway, just a minor detail i think that could be causing the delay.

So far the only situation I see here is an opportunity for better communication. Based upon OP it sounds like he's just running behind on fulfilling orders.

In regards to pre-ordering, it happens every day when you order a pizza, a car, or anything else that requires custom assembly. You pay in advance and wait for it to be assembled/delivered based upon an expected "reasonable" timeframe. When that timeframe isn't met and no communication is made, there is clearly a communication opportunity but it doesn't immediately indicate a situation of a scam or otherwise.

Many small businesses can't create/build, inventory, and store every product they make waiting around for someone out there to buy it.

As a small business owner myself, I can tell you its a struggle dealing with every little detail. I spend more time dealing with the "crap to run the business" than I do actually "doing business" which sometimes leads to my response times not being as optimal as I would intend or like them to be.

In regards the scam remark, I agree that's not what you indicated -- it was said by others and for the record my reference to that was not directed at you.

I agree regarding the communication gaps you outlined, they are unfortunate to hear about in this case.

Sorry first post (long-time lurker but never had much knowledge to contribute) but no I am not Brian Raymond and yes I have been in touch with him about purchasing rigs.

He actually sent out an email today explaining the issues they have been having with shipment. In previous conversations he had told me that while GPU procurement has been tight it hasn't been a major bottleneck for him so far. I'm sure there has been an onslaught of demand since the ETH price spike so that may have changed by now.

His email said there was an issue with the updated version of the MSI mobo's they received that caused some rig stability issues. This affected about 120 units according to him. They are working to resolve that issue and get those rigs shipped out ASAP.

I can understand the frustration as a customer with spotty communication but my gut feeling is that Brian is a straight up guy that is a bit overwhelmed with demand at the moment. I'll post again once my order is placed and received to let people know how that process was.

I ordered a lot of units from Brian, he promised me it will shipped 5 days after received the payment and right now is like 28 days already still no response no unit shipped yet.

Can anyone confirm how reliable of the seller?

This seems to be par for the course.  I had a few good interactions with Padrino in the past, but after trying to order 600+ custom cables, he went MIA during our conversation in PM.  I messaged him 5-6 additional times over the course of the following weeks with zero reply, yet he had the time to reply to a few items here on the boards.  Definitely not reliable at this time.

I can not guarantee per se, but I occasionally made an order (also a week ago), and was reading this thread (not registering though) with great sense of worry.

Well, later in my Spam I found two emails - 1 from next day after purchase and 2nd the week after, so actually I see that he is keeping me on track though there are some issues with MSI boards and not all units ordered could be mastered, but whatever the cost, they're forcing it as much as they can, as it says. I guess they would not sacrifice stability, and that seems like a totally right thing with miners.

Both of the emails were written in a adequate manner and I do not see the signs in there which would make someone worry now. I am 99% sure he's having technical difficulties, but the lack of communication replies, reported by other board members, should raise some bar in the future for this business to thrive ;) At least it would be anticipated by the current clients.

Will post here when I'll get my unit, as well.

Hey guys... Im new to cryptos and mining but I wanted to at least make a quick post here letting people know that, at least for the moment, the website is no longer taking orders and the units in question are now shown as "out of stock". I know this doesn't help those of you waiting for your units but at least they aren't still taking orders, which only creates more issues. Hopefully they catch up soon and open orders back up because I would also like to purchase a few. However if anyone here knows of other company that creates rack mount miners out there (at least 6xGPU) can you please link it here because it sounds like Bitworks may take a few months to get all this sorted.

Thanks.

Do you sell case standalone like grey matter ? ?

Where is the base case from, if you dont mind.

i already fuking ask... if they not respond to me as the great asker they aint ganna respond to u kid

anyone have anymore news if the machines are stable now?

has anyone heard or received anything from this guy at all recently? for me its been radio silence since his group email on 5/29/17 despite several inquiries and missing the shipping date he originally quoted.

Its because literally zero video cards have arrived in the USA in the last 2 weeks. Even companies like newegg and amazon are not getting them. Best guess has it being another 2-4 weeks out before orders start arriving.

Please don't make excuses for this guy when you don't know what you're talking about.

I placed my order much earlier than 2 weeks ago. GPUs were still readily available then and I am *seriously* regretting trusting this vendor rather than just buying them myself.

Furthermore he's sent out two emails since regarding the shipping delay and blamed it on issues with system stability NOT on issues procuring the GPUs. Which is a load of horseshit of course. At this point I'd be happy if he would would just send me the damn GPUs.

It's blatantly obvious he's decided it makes more sense for him to hold the units people paid for and mine with them himself now that the GPU supply has dried up. Or that's sure how it seems from where I'm sitting. I would LOVE to be wrong. Has anyone received an order from bitworks in the past month and a half?


And this is false anyway, I know a local computer store that restocked last week.

how to keep faith in ur customers:
"um sorry guys everyone is out of gpus cant build rigs for you guys"

how to be this guy:
"..."


wtf is so hard about option A ???
why wont just sell the case as standalone ????????

Listen, he is honoring refund requests right now. If you dont want to wait, go get a refund. It will be processed the same day (mine was). I dont blame padrino, i just didnt want to wait. So either shut the fuck up and wait for your machine or get a refund. You cant have it both ways. You should also be happy if you paid in eth/btc because its worth more now also.

Just because you are an idiot doesn't mean the rest of us are. He used our money to purchase a bunch of GPUs and when the profitability skyrocketed decided it would be better to sit on them than fulfill orders.


Nah I don't think I will. It's important the community is aware of shady business practices like this. If someone selling miners only fulfills orders when profitability is poor, maybe that's not someone people should be buying miners from.

I'm missing out on massive profits because I ordered GPUs through this guy rather than a reputable vendor and I know I'm not alone. The fact that GPUs started going out of stock everywhere weeks after my order was placed is not an excuse.

And like the other guy has said, if that's supposedly the case maybe he should say so but he hasn't even done that. Of course he can't because it would make no sense in light of the last two mass email updates he sent out.

get a refund then and buy them somewhere you can get them faster.

Unless you are saying you cant get it elsewhere faster. Because if you could, certainly the right move would be to get a refund and do that.
 ??? ???

Obviously I can't now. But I could have when I originally placed this order with padrino and for awhile after. I foolishly trusted that the email updates he was sending out were accurate but it's clear now they were lies.

If you don't see something wrong with that then you really are a moron.

What GPUs are in these?

RX 570s

harkifier guy sounds like is Brian Raymond to me. I order over 50x servers from Brian in April, since now I have yet receive any of my server yet. I sent the payment to him already.

1) Once I sent him the payment, his response was dropped to ZERO for two weeks, he promised me to ship within ONE week after received the payment.
2) I tried to call him after two weeks, he said his family have issue and lost contacts for two weeks, he promised it will ship out 2 days later.( tried to call him 5-6 times a day until he pickup)
3) I tried to call him 4 days later, he said some one went back to China and bought 750 ASIC chip( pretty retarded to say ASIC chip, everyone know is MSI RX 470 4GB Samsung/Hynic memory with upgraded timing) He said it will ship out for another 7 days. I sent him an email to confirm it will ship out in 7 days
4) 7 days later called him again(You have to try at least 5-10 times a day, lucky enough he will answer your phone call!!) This time he said the motherboard have issue, he have to eat the cost of over 150x motherboard and get them replaced. It will ship out by early next week.
5) I was naive and believe again, later he sent out an email to me saying the shipment resumed. I tried to call him 3 days later after the shipment resume email. He promised me to ship out on Friday but now postponed to next week...

Everyone know right now is Ethereum gold rush, why you think he will ship out the shipment when you can't buy ANY GPU RX470, 480 570 580, EVGA G2 1300 power supply and motherboard? He will keep  your money and secure the GPUs for mining for his own and keep mining until you asked for a full refund... Once the GPU stock are free, maybe he will ship you a system. I don't think he will ship anything in the next 3-6 month. At lease the ethereum gold rush is over!!!


Here is his phone number below. don't waste your time hoping he will ship it out anytime soon.  Get your money back and hope to do something else.




Bitworks LLC
Phone: (757) 358-0505 (HIS CELL PHONE)
Phone: (757) 504-2947 (HIS GOOGLE VOICE)
Brian Raymond Brian Raymond
Chief Executive Officer


Bitworks LLC

Registered Agent/Registered Office
BRIAN RAYMOND
608 WEST RIVERVIEW ROAD
SUFFOLK VA 23434
SUFFOLK CITY 220
Status: Active
Effective Date: 8/28/2014

How hot do these get in the inside? Id imagine pretty hot it outside in the garage?

This is so unfortunate to hear.

Either this guy truly fell on some bad times / bad luck or something else is going on. Regardless of the reason, these stories are starting to become more prevalent and the lack of activity here from the business owner is very concerning.

Your point about the gold rush is valid, I'd hate to think this business is mining for extended periods with hardware paid for with other peoples money as part of "testing" similar to what we saw Bitmain do with the initial L3+ launch.

It looks like he registered the business to his home too, which makes this information being public all that much worse of a situation IMO.

Hope this business can get this resolved for everyone involved, I really hate to see this kind of thing happen.

Harkifier does have a point though. I've been waiting for a month now on an RMA GTX 1070 from Amazon.com, no one has them anywhere in USA except for an Ebay seller who is charging double for them right now. It's much worse for AMD Cards. I've called Amazon and they basically told me they can refund me or I can wait. I bought the card when it was on sale and because of demand the price has gone up near $100.

IMO this business needs to either refund those orders that can't be fulfilled inside of 4 weeks from order date and/or offer alternatives such as an nvidia based rig at a higher cost instead of AMD to those that have already placed orders.

It's been some time since I have been on the forum, been busy working things, it's the crypto space so I will never convince some people we are not sitting on systems, don't care to get into that fight as it's a lose-lose regardless..

I however have no outstanding orders for 50x systems that were paid for in April, we do have a handful of large pending orders from customers in May/June however I know who each one is and have talked with all of them this week... If you are one of the people that ordered and paid for a single system with the promise of buying more once it's delivered, then you are in the same boat as others, would however like to know the order number since you sound like Melvin from the writing, but those 2 systems were delivered last week...

Catching up on the forum posts.. Again there is no point on trying to convince people we are not mining for ourselves, there have been a number of customers receiving systems, some on the forums and some not,  I had a couple of customers let me know whats happening on the thread and suggested I take some time to get on the forum...

Sent an email update yesterday to all buyers with pending orders, so they have the details and options... I had a number of people ask for barebones systems so they are available immediately for anyone with a pending order that wants one or more, in lieu of waiting on GPUs, which is the critically important, missing piece... Outside of that a refund is always available...

It's a bad situation all around with very limited numbers of GPUs coming into the US, initially hoped we would be somewhat insulated from it since we order direct from manufacturers, but even they are being starved with millions of ASICs on back order from AMD between Sapphire, XFX, PowerColor, etc..

Cards are coming but they are trickling in, AMD forces some into the retail channels occasionally so it's not completely starved but it's an average of 100 at a time, and very scattered so GPUs will show in small numbers occasionally but if they do they disappear quick... We order in volume and although we will take less the large orders are being cancelled, held, or otherwise not fulfilled with a massive backlog of orders at this point... So we are still receiving GPUs at a slow pace and delivering some orders, but it is much slower than anyone wants.

That's good to hear you are offering barebone systems as alternative solutions -- is this a regular offering or something that you're doing because of this special case? I just built another rig myself and have parts coming for another behind it but it would be good to know if this is static offering for future rigs I build.

I know there is a lot of flak in this thread right now but it's good to hear that you're working towards the solution - thanks for the update.

i need barebone system link 500usd or be delt with.

u choose.

It's something being done specific for any existing customer with a pending order, driven by the handful that asked... It's not something we intend to normally offer.. Put 100 in stock for the set of customers this impacts...

Just curious what you think about orders from retail places that say 15 day back order. I ordered 8 x RX580's from a place that shows a backorder list of hundreds with details about when they expect each batch in. I went ahead and ordered the rest of the gear, but perhaps should have waited until the back order was closer, since I might blow past my 30 day return policy before the cards get in.

Like everyone, I'm eager to start mining, and wondering if people ordering from places that are ordering themselves on demand are actually getting their cards.

mining is going to be dead soon, if u cant get a rig up by the beginning of next month dont bother.

Supply constraints aside, 2-3 weeks is the normal answer so I fear they just were providing that, I saw the same from someone I know last week who ordered from an online seller, when asked to confirm, it was changed to 30-60 days with no guarantees... With that said 580s are out as a side effect of 570s being out, not because they were the primary focus so it's possible they will surface a bit quicker..

I am happy to say that I received the miners from BitWorks.

I got them a few days ago, but I waited to give a review to see if they are fully functional.

After a small initial error in which some internal cables were disconnected, now it's all fixed, and it works perfectly. (The miner is very stable).

I think Bitworks has a nice product, but can improve what is around it (customer service, speed ...)

Anyway, I am quite satisfied.

Wanting to get into Crypto Mining.

Saw this post, interesting ?

Have many queries ... not sure, if anyone would care answering or helping me out ?

- Which coins should one mine ?
- Should one build a rig / miner on his own, or get one custom made, or get one of the ready to use miners like Antminer ?
- Should one host the rig / miner at one's own place, or in a colocation facility ?
- If a colocation, should one look for a colocation around where one is, or any specific country ?

if your doing colo make sure it near you, most datacenter not accept custom machine like this without custom cabinet. you need be there in person to explain the machines innards to their technicians for their own safety. also only do colo if high density machine, 8+ gpu rigs to combat the hosting cost.

I found that one can also do Cloud Mining, which seems another great option, thoughts ?

Also, I see that some companies offer Hosted servers, where the provide the server, and we just pay a monthly fee. Seems great.

So, what is the best option ??

Thanks for posting. I purchased a single miner on May 14 and I'm still waiting to receive a shipping notification. Thanks to your post I at least feel better that I didn't get scammed. 

The last email update I received was on June 14 stating that orders up to approximately May 15 would be would be fulfilled with their June batch of GPU's. Would be nice to get another email update. I've given up trying to send direct emails since they are probably getting flooded by other customers wanting an update. The two emails I sent back in May and June never received a response.

I'm curious if anyone else who placed an order in May has received their rig or even a shipping notice?

I purchased a single rig back on May 18th.

I purchased the rig because the website said "in stock." After a few days of no activity, I contacted Bitworks and I was told orders would be 3 weeks out. Ouch. I decided to deal with the bad news and continue to wait. 3 weeks past and still nothing. Bitworks has sent out a couple of bulletins on pending orders and has also stated there is a communication problem. Obviously GPU shortage is one of the issues but Bitworks also had some alleged motherboard issues as well.

Since my order I moved from the original address and had to send numerous messages to get my address updated. When it was confirmed Bitworks would update it, I noticed it was still not updated in their system and has not been to date.

The communication has been extremely poor. This is a major downfall of Bitworks. Regardless of the circumstances, if a website says something is in stock, then I would expect some inventory ready to ship. I put a lot of money on the line to purchase the machine. Overall the customer service is terrible and there is not a product out there that can offset that.

In light of the terrible communication and lack of updates on progress. I opted for a refund. The refund amount shown was also incorrect (it did not include the $90 priority shipping I prepaid for). I have since escalated on PayPal, because again, no response.

I was lucky to purchase some cards the same time I purchased this miner and it forced me to learn to build my own. It's a shame for anyone else who might have been relying on this miner. I wanted to share my experience as a first time miner. Hope Bitworks can turn things around but I will not do business with them ever again.

Have you had any luck since escalating with PayPal?

I'm still waiting to receive any kind of communication concerning further delays or the status of outstanding orders.   :-\

Hi, yes I have since received a full refund

Hi. Last time i talked with brian from bitworks was middle june. He said my order will be ready in july as the list of pending orders is getting filled. I knew since 24th of may when i placed my order it will take 3 4 weeks to fulfill orders and after that thw problem of no gpus in us. I can say they are no gpus in spain either.... he said july... trying middle july with no comitment so i trust i eill receive my miner this month... eth went down people doesn't make so much money as 1 2 months ago it should come all back to normal i think. Also i have paid with paypal they guarantee a 6months refund if necessary.

I tried emailing sales yesterday for an update. I'll let you know if I hear anything back. When I ordered on May 14th I was told by Brian it would take closer to 15 days to ship the order when I asked about the 5 to 15 day to ship notice on the website.

I understand problems occur with inventory and I can accept that. What I can't accept is the lack of customer service when it comes to keeping your customers informed. I'm not asking for daily updates but weekly would be nice.

I totally agree with you. Before placing my order on 24th of may he was online on the chat on his web and answering the missed chat or emails and now he answers once a month... on this forum he was seen 3days ago although he didn't answered to my pm... I am really new in this and I bought the miner half with a friend so she is asking me every day if I have news from Brian....in Spain and amazon sellers started to have stock for the gpus we need so an update would be awesome. And, as you did, I tried pm him here, used the contact form on his web and the chat, pm him on eBay and no news...

Still no response from my last email to sales at Bitworks.  :-\ I even checked my order status on their website and it just says "processing".

Blackforce,

Have you received any responses to your communication attempts? I don't need a personal response concerning my order. Just an update on what the hold up is and when it will be resolved would be nice. Is that asking to much for a purchase of almost 3.5k dollars?!?

No response. So I asked for a refund. They gave me the money wright away, although here in spain 2 days after everything is back to normal with the gpus stock. So I think Brian will send the pending orders soon.

So on Friday, August 11th I get a shipping notice from bitworks that I should receive my rig by Wednesday, August 16th. Yay!!! I keep checking the tracking information on Friday but it only shows that they generated a shipping label with FedEx. Hmm... I keep checking over the weekend and its the same. Ok, not to worry its the weekend and maybe FedEx won't come out to pick up the rig until Monday. Keep checking Monday, Tuesday and today... still no updates. On Tuesday I went on FedEx's website and told them to email if anything changes on the status of the tracking. I've received nothing from FedEx.

Finally having enough, I log into my account on bitwork.io to request a refund, but I can't because they show the order was completed?!? I emailed bitworks requesting a refund for my order. It will be interesting to see how they decide to handle this. This is for an order I placed on May 14.

Has anyone else received a tracking number that shows the package was picked up and is in the process of being delivered? If the package was actually shipped I'd be fine with that, but this feels like I'm being played for a fool and my patience has finally run out.

what temps do gpus have in this case ?

Any website to Buy GPU Rack ?

is a 12GPU rack mount server? with like 1080Ti?

why is this case 4U when there is a 3U rack from ASUS with even 8 GPU
https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/ESC8000_G3/


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