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Title: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 04, 2016, 03:10:10 AM I know politics is not your interest. But you are smart enough to understand why "everything equal" is always horrific failure that leads to war and megadeath. Please read this quote and understand why you must stop teaching your friends and kids the bullshit about "the rich are evil and everything must be equal". The Ten Commandments tell us not to covet what our neighbor has (and that includes accusing every rich person of being corrupt when in fact many people get rich by hard work!). The "99% versus 1%" movement is Satan whoreship!
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all). After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. I had a conversation in a hotel with someone who was very much a believer in man created global warming. I began to notice a pattern to their thinking. When you test anything, you must see how it is connected to other reasoning. What emerged was a fundamental belief that government is good and there to take care of you until you die. This notion appears to be linked to those who just want to be taken care of, but not to the point that they are on welfare. They will pretend to be independent thinking individuals, but there is a core surrender of independence because they do not want to think no one is in charge. They voted for Hillary as well, and this all seems linked to this desire not to be responsible for the future in a subtle way. Perhaps it is linked to childhood when you did not have to work or cook. They just took care of you. It seems that those who believe in global warming are more likely to trust government. What happens when they wake up and discover nothing is as they thought it would be? Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/the-termination-of-cash-approaching-rapidly-the/ I am becoming deeply concerned that the United States is headed into its version of a communist revolution under the label “progressive” and the bankers, who Larry Summers has always supported, will be used as the scapegoat for Wall Street and the “rich” who have to be stripped of their liberty and their money for the “good of the people” as they always say. The United States does not look like it will be a country we can recognize by 2032 if we can even make it past 2024. The United States will most likely break apart by 2036. There are separatist movements rising in many areas from Vermont and Texas to California, who reasons they voted for Hillary not Trump justifying their departure. The entire purpose of eliminating cash is to strip us of our assets, liberty, and to prevent bank runs. The youth, who have been brainwashed by Bernie Sanders and people like Elizabeth Warren, will turn against the older generation and enslave them if at all possible. This threatens our future with outright civil war. They will not be satisfied until they destroy the freedom of their opposition. It is starting to appear that 2036 is our date with destiny. I saw NBA legend Kevin Garnett using the term "not progressive enough" on national TV in his condemnation of coaching great Phil Jackson (when Jackson referred to Lebron's "posse"). Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 04, 2016, 05:20:37 PM Every Household in California Owes $93,000 to Pay for State Pensions https://i.imgur.com/4ERsOOJ.jpg Stanford University has been tracking the cost of pensions in California. So while there is a movement starting to separate from the United States especially since they wanted Hillary, California will soon fall on its face and then will be begging Washington for a handout. The real amount owed by every household in California to cover state pensions jumped to $93,000 in 2015 up from $77,700 per household in 2014. California may be the most socialistic state in the union, so expect them to also be among the first to collapse despite being the fifth largest economy in the world if looked at as their own nation. Go ahead – leave; but take your pensions with you please! There are two categories of fools: (1) are those who believe what isn’t true; and (2) those who refuse to believe what is true. Socialists seem to come in both varieties. Millions of Socialists, have murdered and killed those who disagree with them. The opponents of Marxism have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards this mythical land of perfect harmony and utopia. The net result has only been war and conflict and to prove that one half the world is composed of fools and hypocrites who just want to be taken care-of, yet willing to surrender their independence while pretending to be independent. More: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/understanding-cycles/football-in-decline/ Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 05, 2016, 01:44:51 AM Ah yes I was thinking it was 500 ounces. 500 grams is much less, but I still doubt the average person owns $20,000 worth of gold. This will still only have an effect on the very wealthy. Some might buy some Bitcoin, but I assume most are going to hide money in offshore accounts and companies outside their country. The intended effect is that it will be impractical to use gold as form of tax avoiding cash. You can bury gold in the ground and never use it, because that it no threat at all to the government's desire to tax everything that moves. Have fun eating your gold or watching it sit there useless in the ground while the economic opportunities move on without you. The elite are moving the tangible economy to electronic currency that is tracked for taxes. They will use the poor as a weapon against the middle class. The poor will avidly support increased taxation because the government will promise them free things. In India, the government is recently offering a basic level of free food and medical care system support to the indigent. This is a big deal because in the past 1/3 of Indians only ate once a day. The poor see these increased taxation as ending corruption and funding the support for the poor. They don't realize it is the laying the seeds for tax slavery. But we in the crypto-currency currency arena can offer the poor a better deal than what the government can give them. We can offer them a job in the virtual economy where they can become independently a middle class person. And then they will hate taxes. I am working on this now. Steem(it) was the first (failed) example. We can onboard the billions into crypto-currency by giving them currency when they do work on a social network. We can change the economy of the world. Tinfoil hats are doing nothing. They are stuck in an unimaginative old world fight over tangible resources. Iron used to be a precious metal. Everyone needs to understand we live in an age of surplus and we are moving to a Knowledge Age: You will probably need a week or two of studying the thread slowly. I will be the first to admit I needed a week to fully absorb the following works of AnonyMint. The Rise of Knowledge (http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Demise%20of%20Finance,%20Rise%20of%20Knowledge.html) <--- READ THIS Understand Everything Fundamentally (http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Understand%20Everything%20Fundamentally.html) Together these are quite simply the most insightful piece of economic theory I have ever read. If the author is right and I think he is we are all in the midst of a tragedy of epic proportions. It is sad unstoppable and will devastate the lives of much of humanity. ... Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: devthedev on December 05, 2016, 02:15:42 AM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere.
Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 05, 2016, 02:22:22 AM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere. Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming... (https://youtu.be/zlmuKtyhDKg?t=261) Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: devthedev on December 05, 2016, 02:31:24 AM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere. Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming... (https://youtu.be/zlmuKtyhDKg?t=261) "We are the only country in the world not to guarantee health care" Wow, maybe millennials should stop being lazy and get an education and a career. The United States is the strongest nation because of free markets and the constitution. I do not recall, "everyone must pay for Obama phones, Obama Care, Obama vacations" in the constitution, but I am still being forced to pay into them. Taxation is theft. You are technically a slave when 100% of the products of your labor is taxed/confiscated by force. So at what percentage are you not a slave? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Thenoticer on December 05, 2016, 04:56:40 AM You know there's def something wrong with people when you hear stories of "snowflake" millennials needing coloring books and play doh to be able to cope with Hillary's loss.
I like where you are going with this. It appears you are going to provide not only work but purpose for people. Watching... Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Thenoticer on December 05, 2016, 05:01:57 AM this quote is great. I've been arguing this point to some friends recently and have been looking for a good example to prove socialism ends in disaster.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all). After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: tsaroz on December 06, 2016, 02:12:54 AM I know politics is not your interest. But you are smart enough to understand why "everything equal" is always horrific failure that leads to war and megadeath. Please read this quote and understand why you must stop teaching your friends and kids the bullshit about "the rich are evil and everything must be equal". The Ten Commandments tell us not to covet what our neighbor has (and that includes accusing every rich person of being corrupt when in fact many people get rich by hard work!). The "99% versus 1%" movement is Satan whoreship! This is great. You can't force people to work like cattle. You can't force them to be happy. An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all). After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. I had a conversation in a hotel with someone who was very much a believer in man created global warming. I began to notice a pattern to their thinking. When you test anything, you must see how it is connected to other reasoning. What emerged was a fundamental belief that government is good and there to take care of you until you die. This notion appears to be linked to those who just want to be taken care of, but not to the point that they are on welfare. They will pretend to be independent thinking individuals, but there is a core surrender of independence because they do not want to think no one is in charge. They voted for Hillary as well, and this all seems linked to this desire not to be responsible for the future in a subtle way. Perhaps it is linked to childhood when you did not have to work or cook. They just took care of you. It seems that those who believe in global warming are more likely to trust government. What happens when they wake up and discover nothing is as they thought it would be? Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/the-termination-of-cash-approaching-rapidly-the/ I am becoming deeply concerned that the United States is headed into its version of a communist revolution under the label “progressive” and the bankers, who Larry Summers has always supported, will be used as the scapegoat for Wall Street and the “rich” who have to be stripped of their liberty and their money for the “good of the people” as they always say. The United States does not look like it will be a country we can recognize by 2032 if we can even make it past 2024. The United States will most likely break apart by 2036. There are separatist movements rising in many areas from Vermont and Texas to California, who reasons they voted for Hillary not Trump justifying their departure. The entire purpose of eliminating cash is to strip us of our assets, liberty, and to prevent bank runs. The youth, who have been brainwashed by Bernie Sanders and people like Elizabeth Warren, will turn against the older generation and enslave them if at all possible. This threatens our future with outright civil war. They will not be satisfied until they destroy the freedom of their opposition. It is starting to appear that 2036 is our date with destiny. I saw NBA legend Kevin Garnett using the term "not progressive enough" on national TV in his condemnation of coaching great Phil Jackson (when Jackson referred to Lebron's "posse"). But again this is hypothetical socialism. The modern form of socialism is already implemented worldwide. The government takes larger income tax from high earners and lesser from low earners. In my personal opinion no taxes should be over 25%. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: devthedev on December 06, 2016, 04:38:53 AM This is great. You can't force people to work like cattle. You can't force them to be happy. But again this is hypothetical socialism. The modern form of socialism is already implemented worldwide. The government takes larger income tax from high earners and lesser from low earners. In my personal opinion no taxes should be over 25%. Exactly, socialism is idiotic in theory and even stupider in practice. Just because you and your friend both agree to take my Bitcoin, it does not make it morally acceptable. It's still theft. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 06, 2016, 09:02:46 PM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere. Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming... (https://youtu.be/zlmuKtyhDKg?t=261) [much blabla]. The United States is the strongest nation because of free markets and the constitution. [even more blabla] Stop being delusional. The only reason the USA is the strongest nation is because they put 1+ trillion $ a year in their defense budget while half of and one of the most funny things nowadays is that the US Army gets their recruits mainly from ex (black) gang members and the results in warfare are looking accordingly. short: USA sucks donkey balls - the land of freedom and democracy is long gone. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: saddampbuh on December 06, 2016, 10:28:05 PM people need to learn the difference between social democracy and socialism.
capitalist countries with high taxes that make it difficult for (especially small) businesses to operate are not socialist. socialism is a system where workers have ownership of what they produce instead of most of it being taken away from them by a capitalist leaving them barely enough to survive on so that government steps in and subsidises them with food stamps and the like. you don't see negress welfare queens shitting out 10 kids from different men living off the government in cuba or the dprk the welfare parasitism you're complaining about is a trait of social democracy not socialism and its more to do with vote buying than anything else, what happens is lazy minorities figure out they can do just as well on welfare as working so they vote to bring in more of their own kind which helps keep the political parties that pander to them in power. under a socialist system they would work or not eat. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 11, 2016, 06:16:01 AM Perhaps the best explanation I have ever heard:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/how-do-we-make-society-better-left-vs-right-5 (Sourced by CoinCube (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg17145470#msg17145470)) Edit: btw, I agree with the following, except the problem is that divorce has destroyed the benefit for men: https://www.prageru.com/courses/life-studies/be-man-get-married http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-false-life-plan/ http://blog.jim.com/economics/the-future-belongs-to-those-that-show-up/ http://blog.jim.com/culture/fertility/ http://blog.jim.com/culture/on-what-used-to-be-called-marriage/ http://blog.jim.com/politics/the-reason-that-women-need-to-be-subordinated-for-successful-reproduction/ Note I am not a misogynist. Actually the reason women are not given more testosterone is because their eggs are more valuable than male sperm. We must protect the women, because if a tribe only had one woman remaining, it would be in danger of extinction, but one man could easily impregnate a plurality of woman. I also dreamed at one point of working with female programmers and that a female would be both my career peer as well as my peer in romance. But I have since learned that there is a reason that women and men are physiologically different. Women have similar average IQ but their outliers are much more rare on the upper end of the IQ curve. Females are very smart at consensus building and nurturing. Men are very smart at economics (and technology as a function in economics). http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-ancestral-environment-of-females/#comment-183149 http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-ancestral-environment-of-females/#comment-183156 As the 160 IQ Eric S. Raymond points out in numerous blogs, these are the "damned facts" that don't feel good to admit, but are in fact reality. http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5220 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5238 Relate this phenomenon of wanting to ignore "damned facts" to following video: https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/does-it-feel-good-or-does-it-do-good-left-vs-right-2 Tangentially James A. Donald was the first person to interact with Satoshi Nakamoto when he announced Bitcoin in 2008 on the Cryptography mailing list (http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html). Edit#2: the liberal socialism Dark Age proceeds as these brainless retards continue to foam at the mouth: https://www.wired.com/2016/12/internet-week-99/ Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: CoinCube on December 11, 2016, 08:22:59 AM There is no doubt that divorce is very bad news. However, it is a problem which can be minimized. Married Couples Who Attend Church Services Together Are Less Likely to Divorce http://www.christianpost.com/news/married-couples-who-attend-church-services-together-are-less-likely-to-divorce-study-171853/ Quote Married couples who attend church services together are more likely to live longer, are less likely to be depressed, and less likely to get divorced, according to a new study conducted by a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health. The study, titled "Religion and Health: A Synthesis," conducted by Tyler J. VanderWeele, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health, noted that religious service attendance is connected to "better health outcomes, including longer life, lower incidence of depression, and less suicide," the Institute for Family Studies noted on Tuesday. According to the study, religious service attendance is also "associated with greater marital stability — or more specifically, with a lower likelihood of divorce." Married couples who attend religious services are 30 to 50 percent less likely to get divorced than those who do not, the study asserts. Such couples are also nearly 30 percent less likely to be depressed and, over a 16-year follow-up period, were shown to have significantly lower risk of dying. ... Though some might criticize the marital stability data by suggesting that those contemplating divorce might be more likely to stop attending religious services, the researchers took that into account. By looking into the timing of changes in religious service attendance, VanderWeele said, "we were able to control for this possibility, and the results persisted: those who attended religious services were 47 percent less likely to subsequently divorce." "Religion is, of course, not principally about promoting physical health or decreasing the likelihood of divorce, but about communion with God," he said, and efforts to commune with God have "profound implications for numerous other aspects of life, including health and marriage." While Christians understand and interpret the word "religion" and everything it entails differently than academic researchers, the operative definition VanderWeele posits for the study is: "the pursuit of complete human well-being: physical, mental, social, and spiritual." Taken together, "religion is about both communion with God and the restoration of all people to their intended state of complete wholeness and well-being. The evidence suggests that it can indeed accomplish both," he said. ... "The religious community provides social support, a constant reinforcement and reminder of the religious teachings, family programs, and a communal worship and experience of God. I would not say that good marriages need a community to thrive, but it certainly does help!" Also further improvements in ones odds can likely be obtained if one chooses a spouse with an understanding of what matters most in life. https://www.prageru.com/courses/life-studies/what-matters-most-life Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 17, 2016, 07:22:15 PM At least there are some free-thinking Millennials:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/how-professors-are-engaging-in-undermining-the-country-in-collages/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQvHAh9c9f4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWs0I98vnso Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamTom123 on December 18, 2016, 09:13:39 AM As far as I know, there is no single man-created government system that can be called perfect...most of them are just downright failure. Socialism is good to think but when it is fully implemented it won't really work for long. What can be the best is to take some of its nice and working principles and introduce them to the usual capitalistic structure and work out a fusion system that can benefit many if not all.
And yes, it is true that when you take away the possible rewards for anything we do and you make things equal then everybody would just be lazy...this is actually the reason why China and many other nations abandoned the pure socialism principles. Human nature is something no law and no system can change. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Thenoticer on December 18, 2016, 04:20:52 PM I asked my friends who have been echoing similar thoughts to the trump is a terrorist/unqualified mantra, what was the point to even having an election then? Why not just let the democratic party put who ever's turn it is into office?
Of course with the same group of people, Ive been doing my best to explain that the electoral college is a weighting system for the states. Else we would have the united country of new york. The headway so far is that they have agreed that the electoral college was created in the 1700s when there were only thirteen colonies. Im still working on getting them to admit that why would a sovereign state agree to a political union with a system that was unbalanced towards the most populated areas. Ie: they are all about the popular vote is all that matters, not the fact that trump won ~2500 counties and hillary ~ 250 At least there are some free-thinking Millennials: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/how-professors-are-engaging-in-undermining-the-country-in-collages/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQvHAh9c9f4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWs0I98vnso Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 18, 2016, 04:56:08 PM Ive been doing my best to explain that the electoral college is a weighting system for the states. Else we would have the united country of new york...not the fact that trump won ~2500 counties and hillary ~ 250 They seem to not understand that centralized systems are NOT anti-fragile. Perhaps suggest to them to read Nicholas Taleb's books, but I doubt they are smart enough to understand. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 18, 2016, 07:49:34 PM Western Millennials:
Classic Anonymint. Rather than continuing the debate, you go off on an obscure tangent about Nazis, Jews and collectivism. That you don't understand the generative essence relevance is my fault? https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos/issues/47#issuecomment-267836518 Why should I debate with someone who is mind-controlled and determined to choose collectivist "facts". You are free to enslave yourself. Why should I waste my time stopping you? You're very smart, but you're not as smart as you think you are. You Think? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319681.msg17096438#msg17096438) And your arrogance, delusions of grandeur and inability to clearly communicate your ideas will put you at a disadvantage, if your so-called "Age of Knowledge" comes to pass. Another Millennial asshat who thinks he has experience and disrespects his elders because he thinks he is right because his school "educated" him. Click the github above, as you have a cohort there. On topic, I'm currently studying for a science degree, and I've always been a very critical thinker and a huge skeptic. I've been on the fence in regards to climate change for over 15 years, but in the last couple of years my opinion has shifted to "it's probably happening and humans are probably responsible". Mainly because I've seen the vast majority of research claiming the opposite debunked, and I've seen a lot more solid evidence claiming AGW from what I consider to be credible sources. Because you are being indoctrinated by your school (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1703293.msg17214996#msg17214996). This may have been true in the past, but a lot of research suggests that CO2 both is an effect of warming, and causes it through feedback loops... The Malthusian youth asshats always think it is different this time and ignore millions of years of documented historical information. And their idealism only causes the periodic bouts of megadeath (driven by their youthful inexperience and idealistic driven arrogance). Enjoy. I suggest you watch the videos: Perhaps the best explanation I have ever heard: https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/how-do-we-make-society-better-left-vs-right-5 (Sourced by CoinCube (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg17145470#msg17145470)) ... Relate this phenomenon of wanting to ignore "damned facts" to following video: https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/does-it-feel-good-or-does-it-do-good-left-vs-right-2 Armstrong is correct that the Western schools are destroying the Millennials: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/how-professors-are-engaging-in-undermining-the-country-in-collages/ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hatred-of-the-left-continues-to-set-stage-for-revolution/ https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/why-the-left-government-are-the-greatest-threats-to-the-domestic-life/ Here is an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1703293.msg17225030#msg17225030 Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: manbitcoinlover on December 18, 2016, 09:29:59 PM The rich are not evil, this is a common misconception spread by either disinfo agents or cry baby socialists. Whats wrong with being rich? I think that pursuing being rich is one way to make your life have some sort of meaning. This is proved by your quote, when you mention the study that the professor did when the people that worked harder got the same reward for people that did not work as hard. But, I would like to point out that working hard does not mean having more money, it simply means working hard. Sure, focusing and pursuing a specific goal will most likely help you attain it faster, but its not something that is factual, because it does not happen every time, there are anomalies, every case is special.
Btw, the occupy wall street movement is BS, we should not be occupying corporations but the governments that allow bailouts to happen in the first place. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 25, 2016, 01:03:39 PM OP, every time I see your username I read "I am not black" ......please change it All the more reason I should not change it, just to piss off you fucking leftist retards who are evil. 70% of those who voted are leftists. Thus for sure mankind is doomed. But the planet will be doing just fine regardless. I voted to save the planet. That doesn't mean that I am a leftist. If you check my post history, you can see that a lot of people here have accused me of harboring far-right ideology. I just want to preserve the planet for the future generations. I don't want my kids to suffer from the misdeeds of our generation. They also have a right to live on this planet. But (if) your ideology causes you to need to enforce your will on others who desire to opt-out and govern themselves. Thus you are a leftist. I may care about the environment, and I may agree with local communities regulating against wanton environmental destruction. But global social justice is evil regardless of the nobleness of your intent. In short, stop worrying so much, as linked video in the following quote explains: Leftists don't care about mankind. They care about their self-importance, Volvos, and bike paths (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c). And they are the most violent threat to freewill and mankind. The only generative essence absolute I can think of so far which I can't refute, is our desire to give meaning to our perception of our existence. This explains the necessity of death. Eternal continuity of perception could not coexist with wonderment because everything that exists would have always been. We'd lose that fundamental absolute which drives the differentiation between the past and future light cones of relativity. I had a 1 hour "Merry Christmas" conversation with my mother and all was going well until I explained that AGW is a farce (we got off on that tangent because I mentioned that Trump might help the immigration of my relatives and my other said "if the country survives Trump" and I told her not to worry because the liberals would probably win the next Presidential election). My mom explained the reason she believes in social justice because she said in her lifetime we have proof it works. She said we in the Deep South saw the end of racism against blacks. I am even old enough to remember how much discrimination against blacks has improved in the Deep South. So I agreed with her on that point. She was aghast that her son wouldn't care about the environment we leave to our offspring. She said she only has maybe at most 20 more years remaining in her life, thus the meaning of her existence is all tied into leftism. She was ready to hang up the phone in a bad mood, and I told her, "mom I do care about the environment, but environment is not climate.". She said she didn't understand that distinction but we ended up on a happy ending because she was relieved that I do care about the environment. So that is an example of both my quote above and also why leftists can destroy society because of their own ignorant social justice. It is true that humans can impact the environment, but they can't impact the long-term climate. Trumpocalypse? (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209531-2016-12-23-trumpocalypse.htm) https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/522-1223190533-a.png (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209531-2016-12-23-trumpocalypse.htm) Now that the shoe is on the other foot, many liberals all over America have suddenly become extremely interested in prepping. Fearing that a Trump presidency could rapidly evolve into a "Trumpocalypse", a significant number of leftists are now stockpiling food, guns and emergency supplies. In fact, even though many had expected a sharp drop in gun sales following Trump's victory, what actually happened is that fear of what is coming under Trump pushed background checks for gun sales to an all-time record high on Black Friday. The election of Donald Trump has awakened the left to a degree that we haven't seen in decades, and some on the left are embracing hardcore survivalism without any apologies. What is ironic about all of this is that on the other end of the political spectrum interest in prepping is probably the lowest that it has ever been in the history of the modern prepper movement. A couple of weeks ago, I wrote an article about how it was like "a nuclear bomb went off in the prepping community (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-like-a-nuclear-bomb-went-off-in-the-prepping-community)", and nothing has changed since that time. Read more at http://www.infowars.com/trumpocalypse-suddenly-liberals-are-the-ones-stockpiling-food-guns-and-emergency-supplies/. 8) Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 26, 2016, 01:33:46 AM Do not Libertarians, or right wing free market advocates have a set of values ? Of course they do. Why are they, then, left off the hook when it comes to imposing these values on those that don't share them, over the "leftists" ? The salient distinction is that the free market by definition means no top-down edicts are directing the outcome, rather the Invisible Hand of opportunity costs are. Free markets anneal to the NATURAL LAW economics of nature. Whereas, top-down edicts do not anneal and become megadeath because of non-intended outcomes. For example, the 57 million who starved in Communist China, because of the top-down management of agriculture. The AGW proponents are trying to achieve a similar megadeath through corrupt top-down governance. If an ideology is an idea system used to maintain an exploitative domination, then from where I'm sat, the free market ideology has by far created the greatest amount of inequality and stifled life chances on the world as a whole . Top-down governance is corrupted also. The leftist's preferred system is just as exploitative as any natural power-law or exponential distribution of wealth. Because giving power to representatives is a power vacuum and thus will always be victors to the most corruptible. The 160 IQ Eric Raymond explained this well: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics) 1% own half this world. The unequal distribution of wealth is a fact of nature. There is nothing you can anyone can do about this, other than improving technology so that everyone's standard of living is lifted. The following references are taken from my whitepaper for a new altcoin project I am working on: J. Doyne Farmer, John Geanakoplos. Power laws in economics and elsewhere. Chapter from a preliminary draft of a book called “Beyond equilibrium and efficiency”, §4.1 Summary of empirical evidence for power laws, p. 15, May 14, 2008. Adrian A. Dragulescu, Victor M. Yakovenko. Exponential and power-law probability distributions of wealth and income in the United Kingdom and the United States. Physica A 299, pp. 213–221, proceedings of NATO workshop Applications of Physics in Economic Modeling, Prague, Feb 2001. Adrian A. Dragulescu, Victor M. Yakovenko. Statistical Mechanics of Money, Income, and Wealth: A Short Survey. Modeling of Complex Systems: Seventh Granada Lectures, AIP Conference Proceedings 661, pp. 180-183, Sep 2, 2002. Victor M. Yakovenko, J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.. Colloquium: Statistical mechanics of money, wealth, and income. Rev. Mod. Phys. 81(4), 1703, Dec 2, 2009. Jean-Philippe Bouchard. Power-laws and Scaling in Finance: Empirical Evidence and Simple Models. Conference on Fractals 2002, Emergent Nature: Patterns, Growth and Scaling in the Sciences, pp. 157–171, Mar 17, 2002. Xavier Gabaix. Power Laws in Economics: An Introduction. Journal of Economic Perspectives 30(1) pp. 185–206, §What Causes Power Laws?, Winter 2016. Thomas Lux. Financial Power Laws: Empirical Evidence, Models, and Mechanism. Power Laws in the Social Sciences: Discovering Complexity and Non-Equilibrium Dynamics in the Social Universe, §IV. Multi-Agent Models in Behavioral Finance, 2006. Also the extreme excesses in concentration of wealth are not due to the free market, but are due to the top-down political corruption that the leftists advocate. The solution the leftists advocate is the poison that gives them the reason to advocate their "solution". It is a vicious cycle of ignorance, akin to a dog chasing his tail. It is quite sad to see such retarded humans destroy themselves and civilization along with it. Repeatedly. But the ideas that legitimate this gross inequality are somehow OK because ......????? Or are their ideas somehow exempt from tyrannical abuse purely because they are the ones writing the rule books and history ? Doesn't make any sense. You retards never learn to stop chasing your tail. It is sad. I see you leftists as a cancer and a virus, that I need to inoculate from my life. CoinCube won't approve of my language, but I use this language because you leftists are evil and violent and the "soft glove" approach doesn't register in your corrupt minds. You need to be told what you really are bluntly and frankly. And moreover, because you always talking so highly of your ethics and you belittle (very condescending tone!) the ethics of the free market proponents, so I just want to put the mirror in your face. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: mOgliE on December 26, 2016, 11:21:00 AM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere. Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming... (https://youtu.be/zlmuKtyhDKg?t=261) "We are the only country in the world not to guarantee health care" Wow, maybe millennials should stop being lazy and get an education and a career. The United States is the strongest nation because of free markets and the constitution. I do not recall, "everyone must pay for Obama phones, Obama Care, Obama vacations" in the constitution, but I am still being forced to pay into them. Taxation is theft. You are technically a slave when 100% of the products of your labor is taxed/confiscated by force. So at what percentage are you not a slave? Nothing to add your honor. Anyone believing that shouldn't be allowed to vote xD I'd just love to know how the hell is USA the strongest nation? What are exactly your criteria? xD Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: mOgliE on December 26, 2016, 11:25:15 AM This is so accurate! Many millennials say "It's DEMOCRATIC Socialism, there's a difference." Just because you put the word "democratic" before it doesn't mean it's any different. It just means you voted for the flawed system. Socialism has not and will not work anywhere. Bernie Sander's Millennials Socialism is Coming... (https://youtu.be/zlmuKtyhDKg?t=261) [much blabla]. The United States is the strongest nation because of free markets and the constitution. [even more blabla] Stop being delusional. The only reason the USA is the strongest nation is because they put 1+ trillion $ a year in their defense budget while half of and one of the most funny things nowadays is that the US Army gets their recruits mainly from ex (black) gang members and the results in warfare are looking accordingly. short: USA sucks donkey balls - the land of freedom and democracy is long gone. Hey there Criptix! Long time no seen, I was away for a few months but as soon as i come back i see nothing really changed... It seems that people still spit on socialism without even knowing what they talk about xD It's a good thing you're here otherwise I'd feel a bit lonely with my brain here! USA is powerful indeed, but only because they stole resources across the world to finance a huge army to steal even more resources around the world... And they're saying socialism is theft? xD I always find a bit funny how they believe 50% tax is theft but bombing a country to take the oil there is ok. I guess it's only a question of who you steal ;) Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: DooMAD on December 26, 2016, 01:35:45 PM USA is powerful indeed, but only because they stole resources across the world to finance a huge army to steal even more resources around the world... And they're saying socialism is theft? xD I always find a bit funny how they believe 50% tax is theft but bombing a country to take the oil there is ok. I guess it's only a question of who you steal ;) Not to mention the ridiculous double standard where the conservatives and hardline libertarians believe they have the right to live and work anywhere in the world because capitalism. But as soon as anyone foreign wants to move there, it's all "filthy immigrants" and "dey took er jerbs", where suddenly the open market doesn't apply to the labour force. They claim they want small government, but still want someone to "defend" the borders (preferably for free because they're too greedy and self absorbed to pay tax). They want all the benefits of living in a society but none of the responsibility of maintaining it. Hate-filled leeches. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: saddampbuh on December 26, 2016, 03:47:32 PM I always find a bit funny how they believe 50% tax is theft but bombing a country to take the oil there is ok. I guess it's only a question of who you steal ;) claims to hate capitalism, promotes gambling in his signature, go figureTitle: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: saddampbuh on December 26, 2016, 03:50:36 PM Not to mention the ridiculous double standard where the conservatives and hardline libertarians believe they have the right to live and work anywhere in the world because capitalism. But as soon as anyone foreign wants to move there, it's all "filthy immigrants" and "dey took er jerbs", where suddenly the open market doesn't apply to the labour force. They claim they want small government, but still want someone to "defend" the borders (preferably for free because they're too greedy and self absorbed to pay tax). They want all the benefits of living in a society but none of the responsibility of maintaining it. Hate-filled leeches. there is a difference between advanced westerners with money or skills going to other countries and helping generate wealth for those countries and muds coming here to leech welfare or work minimum wage and put our own menial workers on the doleTitle: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 26, 2016, 03:59:58 PM Not to mention the ridiculous double standard where the conservatives and hardline libertarians believe they have the right to live and work anywhere in the world because capitalism. But as soon as anyone foreign wants to move there, it's all "filthy immigrants" and "dey took er jerbs", where suddenly the open market doesn't apply to the labour force. They claim they want small government, but still want someone to "defend" the borders (preferably for free because they're too greedy and self absorbed to pay tax). They want all the benefits of living in a society but none of the responsibility of maintaining it. Hate-filled leeches. there is a difference between advanced westerners with money or skills going to other countries and helping generate wealth for those countries and muds coming here to leech welfare or work minimum wage and put our own menial workers on the dole Well anyone can go buy land and own a business in the USA, but I can't buy land nor 100% own a business in many countries in Asia such as the Philippines where I am now. Leftists will find any excuse to defend their corrupt, horrific, megadeath directed ideology. They are retards. We conservatives should congregate in our own regions and kick out the leftists. And let them go congregate in their regions where they are most populous. And then let's watch them crash and burn economically. But they will never allow that without war, because all they know how to do is steal. This process is underway. The USA will break up into regions in the coming decades as Martin Armstrong's computer predicted many years ago. The leftists are not going to tolerate us. So we have nothing to gain by being nice to them. It is time to divorce from them. There is no way to reason with a leftist, because if they had critical thinking skills, they wouldn't be leftists in the first place. Just accept that they are scum of the earth and there is nothing we can do to help them. Let them destroy themselves and prepare for our self-defense because they will make war against us when we refuse to pay for their stealing. We conservatives who are productive must let all those leftists go congregate with their other unproductive ilk and let them steal and ass fuck each other into oblivion. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 26, 2016, 06:05:14 PM Thus much of the back and forth regarding the deserving nature of the capitalist who created the billion dollar industry and the deserving nature of the man who has little and contributes less is irrelevant for both are functioning and succeeding in a system that is inherently collectivists/Leftist. In such an environment this argument is essential is a debate over the amount of spoils predator should receive. Such a debate has no solution because both parties are essentially at a fundamental level the same. The difference is that conservative is not going to add fuel to fire by proposing to steal back from the 1% which always is an increase in public debt stealing from yourself (because the 1% will always control the government so they just give us the debt we want and pocket the profits from our social activism). The leftists are in a self-destruction mode. The conservative is willing to go pull himself up by his own bootstraps and make due with what he can achieve. We do have some objectivity. Compare Eastern Europe and other Communist societies to the USA during the 1800s and early 1900s. As my Belgium friend said, "at that time, everything you touched turned to gold in the USA because you could do what you want". The leftists will burn everything to the ground. The conservatives will abort such a megadeath. Can anyone make a counter argument? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: DooMAD on December 26, 2016, 06:17:21 PM We conservatives should congregate in our own regions and kick out the leftists. And let them go congregate in their regions where they are most populous. And then let's watch them crash and burn economically. But they will never allow that without war, because all they know how to do is steal. Then explain why it's basically illegal to live off-grid in conservative states like Texas and Florida (http://www.inquisitr.com/1369086/why-is-florida-and-texas-so-strongly-against-off-grid-living-practices-that-they-deem-it-illegal/). Don't act naive and pretend capitalists don't employ force and coercion to get what they want. You won't allow the leftists to leave if you can profit by making them stay. As I've argued so many times without refute, it only counts as liberty when it's your rights you care about. You couldn't care less about anyone else's rights or freedoms and will happily stomp all over them if it means you can make a buck. It's the conservative way. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 26, 2016, 06:27:17 PM Then explain why it's basically illegal to live off-grid in conservative states like Texas and Florida (http://www.inquisitr.com/1369086/why-is-florida-and-texas-so-strongly-against-off-grid-living-practices-that-they-deem-it-illegal/). The leftists are the ones whose policies stimulate a large and powerful government system that regulates everything. You'll find that even amongst so called conservatives, you really had leftist wolves in sheepskin. There aren't many places remaining on earth where you can do what ever the fuck you want without some government regulating you. Yet I expect that these cases you cited are most prevalent in the populated areas, which btw are typically more leftist even in Texas and Florida. Also the authorities may have shut down that cult for other reasons and simply used the legal code about sanitary water supply as an excuse to put a stop to a cult. Texas is still reeling from the Waco incident. Florida is not conservative. Trump barely won in FL. Florida is highly leftist. And regardless of the political leanings, even the Republicans want government to control everything. They want to regulate so that no one has to live next to some shanty home. Fucking spoiled rich fuck American asshurls who care more about their perfectly manicured green lawn than conservative values. Republicans want profit. It is a tourism state. Everybody has their hand in the pot trying to get some portion of those revenues. So yeah, the moralizing Republicans want more regulation so they can "clean up the image" of the place. Welcome to human civilization. I do know for a fact (as of 2006), you could live off grid in rural West Texas. Nothing out there but rocks, cactus, and lizards. Any way, this is a weak ass rebuttal to evil of the leftist ideology (a religion). Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: DooMAD on December 26, 2016, 07:53:28 PM Then explain why it's basically illegal to live off-grid in conservative states like Texas and Florida (http://www.inquisitr.com/1369086/why-is-florida-and-texas-so-strongly-against-off-grid-living-practices-that-they-deem-it-illegal/). The leftists are the ones whose policies stimulate a large and powerful government system that regulates everything. You'll find that even amongst so called conservatives, you really had leftist wolves in sheepskin. There aren't many places remaining on earth where you can do what ever the fuck you want without some government regulating you. Yet I expect that these cases you cited are most prevalent in the populated areas, which btw are typically more leftist even in Texas and Florida. Also the authorities may have shut down that cult for other reasons and simply used the legal code about sanitary water supply as an excuse to put a stop to a cult. Texas is still reeling from the Waco incident. Florida is not conservative. Trump barely won in FL. Florida is highly leftist. And regardless of the political leanings, even the Republicans want government to control everything. They want to regulate so that no one has to live next to some shanty home. Fucking spoiled rich fuck American asshurls who care more about their perfectly manicured green lawn than conservative values. Republicans want profit. It is a tourism state. Everybody has their hand in the pot trying to get some portion of those revenues. I do know for a fact (as of 2006), you could live off grid in rural West Texas. Any way, this is a weak ass rebuttal to evil of the leftist ideology (a religion). I think I'm starting to gain an understanding of your... how do I put this politely? Unique perspective. Everything in this world that's even remotely authoritarian, you refer to as "leftist", even when it isn't so. No wonder you think everyone's a communist if that's how you genuinely see the world. The view of the world from the eyes of the average person: http://www.wearedecentralised.co.uk/normalcompass.png The view of the world through the eyes of Anonymint: http://www.wearedecentralised.co.uk/anonymintcompass.png The only "justifiable" standpoint in your view is at the very "right" of the chart from your (literally) skewed perspective. Everyone and everything else is communist. Your bitter tone implies frustration that the rest of the world doesn't share this perspective. So you lash out at all the "leftists" even though you apparently mean to include people who would be viewed as right by those on the left. The only ones who aren't "leftists" are the hardline libertarians. The average person will never see it, but in your world Hitler and Gandhi are two peas in a pod. Augusto Pinochet and the Dalai Lama are equally authoritarian. They're all communists. ::) Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: mOgliE on December 26, 2016, 08:33:59 PM I always find a bit funny how they believe 50% tax is theft but bombing a country to take the oil there is ok. I guess it's only a question of who you steal ;) claims to hate capitalism, promotes gambling in his signature, go figureThank you for not answering to any arguments and telling me that I'm hating capitalism even though I didn't say it. Not even going to talk about how hating something doesn't mean you don't understand its use. Anyway as usual nothing that is close to a real argument from you. But it's not like I'm surprised. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 05:49:26 AM The view of the world through the eyes of Anonymint: http://www.wearedecentralised.co.uk/anonymintcompass.png The only "justifiable" standpoint in your view is at the very "right" of the chart from your (literally) skewed perspective. Everyone and everything else is communist. Your bitter tone implies frustration that the rest of the world doesn't share this perspective. So you lash out at all the "leftists" even though you apparently mean to include people who would be viewed as right by those on the left. The only ones who aren't "leftists" are the hardline libertarians. The average person will never see it, but in your world Hitler and Gandhi are two peas in a pod. Augusto Pinochet and the Dalai Lama are equally authoritarian. They're all communists. ::) Thank you. I think that chart is a reasonably accurate representation of my perspective. Thank for putting in the effort to make that. I don't think it is accurate to say that I wouldn't praise some of the traits of those who are on the same side of either axis as myself, even though they are on the other side of the other axis from values. So while I might condone some of the social liberalism of Gandhi, I would disagree with the economic totalitarianism. Ditto while I admire some of Thatcher's views, I wouldn't agree with totalitarian restriction of social values. Having said that, I do admire some conservative social values, such as I think abortion and birth control are self-destructive on a statistical basis, but I am not going to join some religion which tries to control the freewill of people. Note however, there is distinction between having these values and needing to interact in a society that for the most part doesn't share these values. My values free me from needing to control what other people do on a societal level (might be different in my interpersonal relationships). Economic right means I accept the natural law will impact the outcome, so nothing I need to control. Ditto my interpretation of social liberalism is that we all reap what we sow. Abort your children, you'll likely end up in a life lacking meaning. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Spoetnik on December 27, 2016, 08:21:45 AM This is great. You can't force people to work like cattle. You can't force them to be happy. But again this is hypothetical socialism. The modern form of socialism is already implemented worldwide. The government takes larger income tax from high earners and lesser from low earners. In my personal opinion no taxes should be over 25%. Exactly, socialism is idiotic in theory and even stupider in practice. Just because you and your friend both agree to take my Bitcoin, it does not make it morally acceptable. It's still theft. Hope you don't like street lights, garbage pickups or Police / Ambulance or Fires services.. Or security from being invaded by another country. What will you do when a massive forest fire breaks out ? Well apparently that 1 test by a class of lazy brats proves you would all do nothing and be burned alive. The framework of society exists for a reason. Does it need tweaking ? Sure.. German Free University education ? Canadian Free Health Care ? What we end up talking about is lawless anarchy vs rules. Society decided on rules for a reason. If there was no law against littering then everyone would do it according to Shelby's class example right ? Well who would clean it up then ? You ? The guy chanting TAX is Theft ? I doubt it.. you would leave it on the street and say "it's not my job" There by leaving the streets a filthy mess. Native's on reserves in Canada have their own land and tax exemptions. But they use our lumber to build their house to sit on our furniture and watch our TV and use our internet and eat our food and use our electricity.. When they jump into the truck "we" made they enjoy our roads which are plowed.. and paved. It's easy to chant we don't need you.. when in reality you do. I have no problem with greed or profit etc .. but not corruption etc. I agree those that work harder should get more. Just like i said lots on the web.. i am, a fucking big shot assholes. I am known all over in every damn corner of the web.. because i been there.. all along. WORKING my god damn ass off ! In the last two decades i have invested mind blowing amounts of time LEARNING things ..by getting off my ass and doing the work. There for i earned ever damn little bit of cocky smug attitude i have. I do know a lot ..not saying i am the best at everything though LOL Kids these days have a sense of entitlement that is silly. I see what the OP here was driving at with that and i DO agree with him. But you guys are going all over the place here with the topic hahahha Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: valta4065 on December 27, 2016, 01:15:28 PM The view of the world through the eyes of Anonymint: http://www.wearedecentralised.co.uk/anonymintcompass.png The only "justifiable" standpoint in your view is at the very "right" of the chart from your (literally) skewed perspective. Everyone and everything else is communist. Your bitter tone implies frustration that the rest of the world doesn't share this perspective. So you lash out at all the "leftists" even though you apparently mean to include people who would be viewed as right by those on the left. The only ones who aren't "leftists" are the hardline libertarians. The average person will never see it, but in your world Hitler and Gandhi are two peas in a pod. Augusto Pinochet and the Dalai Lama are equally authoritarian. They're all communists. ::) Thank you. I think that chart is a reasonably accurate representation of my perspective. Thank for putting in the effort to make that. I don't think it is accurate to say that I wouldn't praise some of the traits of those who are on the same side of either axis as myself, even though they are on the other side of the other axis from values. So while I might condone some of the social liberalism of Gandhi, I would disagree with the economic totalitarianism. Ditto while I admire some of Thatcher's views, I wouldn't agree with totalitarian restriction of social values. Having said that, I do admire some conservative social values, such as I think abortion and birth control are self-destructive on a statistical basis, but I am not going to join some religion which tries to control the freewill of people. Note however, there is distinction between having these values and needing to interact in a society that for the most part doesn't share these values. My values free me from needing to control what other people do on a societal level (might be different in my interpersonal relationships). Economic right means I accept the natural law will impact the outcome, so nothing I need to control. Ditto my interpretation of social liberalism is that we all reap what we sow. Abort your children, you'll likely end up in a life lacking meaning. Just a simple question: If tax is theft, how do you pay for police, justice, roads, firefighter and all those things? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 01:56:34 PM Just a simple question: If tax is theft, how do you pay for police, justice, roads, firefighter and all those things? Privatize the services. Pay for what you want in your local subdivision, community, etc.. That is pretty much the way it works in the Philippines. I live in a gated subdivision with private guards. When I want to travel from Makati to the airport in 15 mins instead of 1.5 hours mired in traffic, I pay $1 to ride on the elevated toll road. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 27, 2016, 02:17:28 PM Just a simple question: If tax is theft, how do you pay for police, justice, roads, firefighter and all those things? Privatize the services. Pay for what you want in your local subdivision, community, etc.. That is pretty much the way it works in the Philippines. I live in a gated subdivision with private guards. When I want to travel from Makati to the airport in 15 mins instead of 1.5 hours mired in traffic, I pay $1 to ride on the elevated toll road. So you actually support eugenics? (Aka what happens with those who cant pay for security and healthcare - oh right in the philippines they work as government payed hitmans) And then you top that with saying everyone who isnt your soulmate is a communist. I dont even know what to say ??? I dont even get it how people can take PH as an example for anything. That nation is more or less another 3rd world dump where parents sell their kids... wtf ??? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 02:37:59 PM So you actually support eugenics? (Aka what happens with those who cant pay for security and healthcare... Typical leftist hysteria. Equating personal responsibility with enabling eugenics. Lunatics like this will definitely create another Holocaust. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 27, 2016, 02:40:51 PM So you actually support eugenics? (Aka what happens with those who cant pay for security and healthcare... Typical leftist hysteria. Equating personal responsibility with enabling eugenics. Lunatics like this will definitely create another Holocaust. Everything is privatized. What happens with those who cant pay for the service? Lets take the PH as an example because you live there. What does happen with them? They end up on street selling their body, organs and kids. Am i wrong or right? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 02:43:31 PM Everything is privatized. What happens with those who cant pay for the service? Lets take the PH as an example because you live there. What does happen with them? They end up on street selling their body, organs and kids. Am i wrong or right? They rely on extended family. You know something that is entirely gone from the culture of Europe where you send your parents off to die while you are in Southern Europe on a tanning vacation with your 2 months of mandated paid vacation and too busy to return home for their funeral. The Frankenstein Babylon that socialism has built. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 27, 2016, 02:52:54 PM Everything is privatized. What happens with those who cant pay for the service? Lets take the PH as an example because you live there. What does happen with them? They end up on street selling their body, organs and kids. Am i wrong or right? They rely on extended family. You know something that is entirely gone from the culture of Europe where you send your parents off to die while you are in Southern Europe on a tanning vacation with your 2 months of mandated paid vacation and too busy to return home for their funeral. The Babylon that socialization has built. They rely on extended family. Dont you think society is nothing else then your extended family at large or should be? A group of people helping each other creating a peaceful society? The 2nd part is just your opinion - that kind of people exist everywhere and i dont think it is an european problem. Additionaly isnt that the total opposite of leftism? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 02:59:03 PM My gf reminds me that the locals also rely on herbal medicines and natural remedies as much as possible to avoid extra costs when not absolutely necessary.
I think you also have to factor that when filipinos are allowed to work, they do exceptionally well and are able to take care of their families quite adequately. The poverty is to a large extent due to the restrictions on free migration of people and on the subjugation of masses by the aristocracy in the country. They had a captive market of slaves who could not freely trade their labor in the global market. But this is rapidly improving now because for example of the Internet, the youth can see what is going on around the world and refuse to be corralled. Dont you think society is nothing else then your extended family at large or should be? A group of people helping each other creating a peaceful society? You are not helping each other. Your religion uses nice sounding words and concepts, but the reality is you steal production and give it to those who don't produce. This is a recipe for megadeath, because it becomes a violent idealistic delusion that knows no bounds such as your lunatic statement equating eugenics with self-responsibility. Taxing carbon in a lunatic error about climate change. Etc. You must regulate everything, tax everything that moves, destroy everything. There is no such thing as taxation without massive corruption. Flies are attracted to honey. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 27, 2016, 03:40:54 PM Dont you think society is nothing else then your extended family at large or should be? A group of people helping each other creating a peaceful society? You are not helping each other. Your religion uses nice sounding words and concepts, but the reality is you steal production and give it to those who don't produce. This is a recipe for megadeath, because it becomes a violent idealistic delusion that knows no bounds such as your lunatic statement equating eugenics with self-responsibility. Taxing carbon in a lunatic error about climate change. Etc. You must regulate everything, tax everything that moves, destroy everything. There is no such thing as taxation without massive corruption. Flies are attracted to honey. Think again about my eugenics statement. What happens with people who have no extended family? Do you think the weakest people in our society have something like a family helping them? You are letting this people die and dont give a shit about them. You just dont want to admit it. Your problem is indeed not leftism but corruption even though you dont realize it. Btw. Majority of the greatest scientist the world ever saw were... no wonder.. leftist. Also why does it always sounds like leftims created corruption, agw and all evil existing in the world if you talk about it? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on December 27, 2016, 03:46:47 PM Think again about my eugenics statement. What happens with people who have no extended family? Do you think the weakest people in our society have something like a family helping them? You are letting this people die and dont give a shit about them. You just dont want to admit it. What a cold, dark, humanity if those who have lost all their extended family are not adopted and cared for by some family. The leftist religion is all about replacing humanity (and love) with collective indebtedness, corruption, and rewarding non-production while penalizing production. Btw. Majority of the greatest scientist the world ever saw were... no wonder.. leftist. Incorrect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1703300.msg17315012#msg17315012). You must be referring to the corrupt ClimateGate "scientist" frauds. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on December 27, 2016, 04:09:23 PM Leftist replacing humanity and love:
http://www.newmandala.org/wp-content/uploads/cache/2016/07/street-children-Philippines/1476539697.jpg https://hronlineph.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/2810251276_ffb0662a2c.jpg?w=700 http://philippineslifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/street-kids-2-960x540.jpg http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/streetchildren.png All made in the philippines without help of leftism. What is your excuse for that? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 01, 2017, 01:33:41 AM Leftists Europe stealing from 91 year old women:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/91-year-old-woman-court-sides-with-bank-her-cash-saving-illegal/ Leftist replacing humanity and love: http://www.newmandala.org/wp-content/uploads/cache/2016/07/street-children-Philippines/1476539697.jpg All made in the philippines without help of leftism. What is your excuse for that? Typical leftist propaganda which argues that in order to end poverty, we must steal from 91 year old women. Totally illogical idiots that need to be shot in the head. Which they will do to each other. The leftists feel no shame for their megadeath philosophy. Repeating every time throughout human history, yet they are so proud of it. Socialism made you westerners think that human nature is actually not selfish. This works for a short time because the government borrows money to give you everything you want. But throughout history of mankind, this always collapses back to the reality of human nature and megadeath. Humans leverage the system they are in to get the maximum they can for themselves and their love ones. When there is abundance, humans are more sharing, because sharing becomes a gift culture wherein status is gained by giving. But this only works in a capitalistic society that rewards production. A socialist/communist society destroys production. In fact one of the reasons the Philippines is poverty stricken is because of the communist family structure, where one person works and everyone else is lazy and parasites on those who work. The filipinos are also lazy because the aristocracy had enslaved them as captured oversupply of labor. This is changing now that filipinos can go abroad to work. The culture is changing, but not entirely and slowly. Often those who are pictured in the Philippines these sob stories pitched by Children's International, are Bajao (sea people). They refuse education, they refuse to be properly settled. They roam around begging instead of pursuing their former life of being sea nomads, because they find it more lucrative to beg than to live off the sea as they had done for centuries. The necklace on the little girl makes it almost certain she is a Bajao. Typically the filipinos are farmers and have very strong extended family networks for their sustenance. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on January 01, 2017, 02:50:59 AM Leftists Europe stealing from 91 year old women: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/91-year-old-woman-court-sides-with-bank-her-cash-saving-illegal/ Leftist replacing humanity and love: http://www.newmandala.org/wp-content/uploads/cache/2016/07/street-children-Philippines/1476539697.jpg All made in the philippines without help of leftism. What is your excuse for that? Typical leftist propaganda which argues that in order to end poverty, we must steal from 91 year old women. Totally illogical idiots that need to be shot in the head. Which they will do to each other. The leftists feel no shame for their megadeath philosophy. Repeating every time throughout human history, yet they are so proud of it. Socialism made you westerners think that human nature is actually not selfish. This works for a short time because the government borrows money to give you everything you want. But throughout history of mankind, this always collapses back to the reality of human nature and megadeath. Humans leverage the system they are in to get the maximum they can for themselves and their love ones. When there is abundance, humans are more sharing, because sharing becomes a gift culture wherein status is gained by giving. But this only works in a capitalistic society that rewards production. A socialist/communist society destroys production. In fact one of the reasons the Philippines is poverty stricken is because of the communist family structure, where one person works and everyone else is lazy and parasites on those who work. The filipinos are also lazy because the aristocracy had enslaved them as captured oversupply of labor. This is changing now that filipinos can go abroad to work. The culture is changing, but not entirely and slowly. Often those who are pictured in the Philippines these sob stories pitched by Children's International, are Bajao (sea people). They refuse education, they refuse to be properly settled. They roam around begging instead of pursuing their former life of being sea nomads, because they find it more lucrative to beg than to live off the sea as they had done for centuries. The necklace on the little girl makes it almost certain she is a Bajao. Typically the filipinos are farmers and have very strong extended family networks for their sustenance. Oh boy. So you say that all the homeless people are bajao and they choose for themself and their kids to live worst then garbage? And you could say that because that kid on the last pic has a necklace? You are beyond help. It is pretty comical that people sent you money when you were fucked in the Philippines and asked for it. What irony. You know what? In germany we dont have starving kids on the street, have one of the best economies and even universal healthcare since 50+ years. And we lost two world wars that we started. Btw. What link does the story with poor grandma in the usa have with starving filipino kids on the street? I though there is no crazy human eating leftism in PH? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 01, 2017, 02:56:52 AM Oh boy. So you say that all the homeless people are bajao and they choose for themself and their kids to live worst then garbage? And you could say that because that kid on the last pic has a necklace? I didn't write "all". Btw, my gf is a (poverty stricken) filipina and she said 100% sure the kid with the necklace is Bajao. And she concurred with what I wrote. You know what? In germany we dont have starving kids on the street, have one of the best economies and even universal healthcare since 50+ years. Instead you have rapefugees in your streets and you steal the savings of 91 year old frugal women. And the megadeath is coming again to Europe because you leftist white fuckers never learn from your mistakes. You will reap what you sow. You've been warned many times, but you are hard-headed. The leftist religion is all about replacing humanity (and love) with collective indebtedness, corruption, and rewarding non-production while penalizing production. I think you'll find that you are talking about Goldman Sachs' religion there - not those that want an equitable share of wealth, power and opportunity. The "equitable share" aspect is the evil of your religion. The Bible even speaks to that in numerous places such as the Ten Commandments thou shall not covet your neighbor's... and else where it says not to gang up to steal. And in 1 Samuel 8 the Lord warns, and then fulfills in 1 Samuel 15 what happens to those who organize themselves in collectivism. Scientifically we can prove that a uniform distribution is non-existence. It can't be. It violates the laws of nature. You have throughout all the annals of history the repeating failure and megadeath from humans attempting to enforce equality and nature always winning the battle. P.S. I agree with CoinCube that in order to have freedom, we must grant freedom to others. This is the fundamental teaching of the Bible (and I guess Islam) that we must have self-restraint when it comes to violating the freedom of others, otherwise we destroy our own freedom. The collectivists prefer the religion of Satan which deceives them into thinking that man is more powerful than Physics. The differences between CoinCube and I are on the extent of organization into a social structure which requires a lot of superfluous rules in order to protect that social structure from defection and dilution. For an effective K strategy, you need this social superstructure. I am leaning more R strategy, but I haven't worked this all out in my mind yet as to whether it is possible to pursue an R strategy and not violate the freedom of others thus destroying my own freedom. I haven't fully evaluated yet all the ramifications ranging from those within my life and on my evolutionary legacy. I do note that I was not organized at all in my life strategy and this is has played out chaotically as would be expected. CoinCube points out that governance structures may be evolving towards more mutual freedoms. I haven't thought about that yet. And that evolution may be much too slow to concern me. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on January 01, 2017, 03:09:11 AM Well you wrote often and i translated that as most/ nearly all. Sorry for being a bit hyperbolic there.
Ok let us just say that you people are right with rapefugees. They are here since 2014. This is 2 years. The Bundesrepublik Deutschland exist for a bit longer then that. If you see it logically it could be just a failure of merkel and her cabinet. We still have 50+ minus two years as one of the best nations of the world. Btw. There was once a uniform distribution of matter in the universe. The CMB is evidence for it. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 01, 2017, 03:11:25 AM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on January 01, 2017, 03:13:11 AM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 01, 2017, 03:16:12 AM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Of course it was. Even though they indoctrinate you otherwise of course in your fascist country Germany. You do realize that the strong Euro was a fascist plot of Germany to enslave the rest of Europe having them borrow in Euros and then have to pay back in Euros when Germany manufacturers everything there. Before the Euro, the other countries could default on their debt by printing more local currency. Hilter was socialist. He printed money and spent it on public works to put people to work (that is how the Autobahn was built). There was socialized health care (in which they needed to kill all the medically handicapped in order to keep the system from going bankrupt). You live in a horrible, evil country. We had to stop you fools once before in WW2 (actually CoinCube makes the argument that it was the bad weather that thwarted Hilter but he was overextended any way because he relied on stealing resources in order to keep his system running). Now you fools are doing it again. Dumb motherfuckers. I have some German ancestry but I don't think it is something to be proud of. But of course, you fools are proud and arrogant. Even more arrogant are the fuckers from Netherlands. I met a few Germans and Netherlands dudes over here in the Philippines. Arrogant motherfuckers. Think they are superior to Americans. So boastful about their social system. One Netherlands dude over here was talking shit about me behind my back yet he is married to prostitute who gets pregnant with her "cousin" every time he goes home. And he spends his days looking at porn on his computer. That doesn't mean I have any love for the leftists in the USA either. I suppose after Merkel, you'll lurch to Fascist again. Just another obfuscation of socialism/leftism/stealing from each other. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: mOgliE on January 01, 2017, 02:13:03 PM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Of course it was. Even though they indoctrinate you otherwise of course in your fascist country Germany. You do realize that the strong Euro was a fascist plot of Germany to enslave the rest of Europe having them borrow in Euros and then have to pay back in Euros when Germany manufacturers everything there. Before the Euro, the other countries could default on their debt by printing more local currency. Hilter was socialist. He printed money and spent it on public works to put people to work (that is how the Autobahn was built). There was socialized health care (in which they needed to kill all the medically handicapped in order to keep the system from going bankrupt). You live in a horrible, evil country. We had to stop you fools once before in WW2 (actually CoinCube makes the argument that it was the bad weather that thwarted Hilter but he was overextended any way because he relied on stealing resources in order to keep his system running). Now you fools are doing it again. Dumb motherfuckers. I have some German ancestry but I don't think it is something to be proud of. But of course, you fools are proud and arrogant. Even more arrogant are the fuckers from Netherlands. I met a few Germans and Netherlands dudes over here in the Philippines. Arrogant motherfuckers. Think they are superior to Americans. So boastful about their social system. One Netherlands dude over here was talking shit about me behind my back yet he is married to prostitute who gets pregnant with her "cousin" every time he goes home. And he spends his days looking at porn on his computer. That doesn't mean I have any love for the leftists in the USA either. I suppose after Merkel, you'll lurch to Fascist again. Just another obfuscation of socialism/leftism/stealing from each other. Every time someone qualifies 3rd Reich of "socialist", the average IQ of the world decreases. You still haven't answered how you pay for public services without taxes... How do you pay firefighters, roads, doctors...? Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Spendulus on January 01, 2017, 03:44:28 PM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Of course it was. Even though they indoctrinate you otherwise of course in your fascist country Germany. You do realize that the strong Euro was a fascist plot of Germany to enslave the rest of Europe having them borrow in Euros and then have to pay back in Euros when Germany manufacturers everything there. Before the Euro, the other countries could default on their debt by printing more local currency. Hilter was socialist. He printed money and spent it on public works to put people to work (that is how the Autobahn was built). There was socialized health care (in which they needed to kill all the medically handicapped in order to keep the system from going bankrupt). You live in a horrible, evil country. We had to stop you fools once before in WW2 (actually CoinCube makes the argument that it was the bad weather that thwarted Hilter but he was overextended any way because he relied on stealing resources in order to keep his system running). Now you fools are doing it again. Dumb motherfuckers. I have some German ancestry but I don't think it is something to be proud of. But of course, you fools are proud and arrogant. Even more arrogant are the fuckers from Netherlands. I met a few Germans and Netherlands dudes over here in the Philippines. Arrogant motherfuckers. Think they are superior to Americans. So boastful about their social system. One Netherlands dude over here was talking shit about me behind my back yet he is married to prostitute who gets pregnant with her "cousin" every time he goes home. And he spends his days looking at porn on his computer. That doesn't mean I have any love for the leftists in the USA either. I suppose after Merkel, you'll lurch to Fascist again. Just another obfuscation of socialism/leftism/stealing from each other. Every time someone qualifies 3rd Reich of "socialist", the average IQ of the world decreases. You still haven't answered how you pay for public services without taxes... How do you pay firefighters, roads, doctors...? What you mean, is that you'd prefer to not hear those arguments. So you ridicule them. Actually, the form of socialism in the 3rd Reich is quite interesting. https://www.mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: mOgliE on January 01, 2017, 03:56:54 PM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Of course it was. Even though they indoctrinate you otherwise of course in your fascist country Germany. You do realize that the strong Euro was a fascist plot of Germany to enslave the rest of Europe having them borrow in Euros and then have to pay back in Euros when Germany manufacturers everything there. Before the Euro, the other countries could default on their debt by printing more local currency. Hilter was socialist. He printed money and spent it on public works to put people to work (that is how the Autobahn was built). There was socialized health care (in which they needed to kill all the medically handicapped in order to keep the system from going bankrupt). You live in a horrible, evil country. We had to stop you fools once before in WW2 (actually CoinCube makes the argument that it was the bad weather that thwarted Hilter but he was overextended any way because he relied on stealing resources in order to keep his system running). Now you fools are doing it again. Dumb motherfuckers. I have some German ancestry but I don't think it is something to be proud of. But of course, you fools are proud and arrogant. Even more arrogant are the fuckers from Netherlands. I met a few Germans and Netherlands dudes over here in the Philippines. Arrogant motherfuckers. Think they are superior to Americans. So boastful about their social system. One Netherlands dude over here was talking shit about me behind my back yet he is married to prostitute who gets pregnant with her "cousin" every time he goes home. And he spends his days looking at porn on his computer. That doesn't mean I have any love for the leftists in the USA either. I suppose after Merkel, you'll lurch to Fascist again. Just another obfuscation of socialism/leftism/stealing from each other. Every time someone qualifies 3rd Reich of "socialist", the average IQ of the world decreases. You still haven't answered how you pay for public services without taxes... How do you pay firefighters, roads, doctors...? What you mean, is that you'd prefer to not hear those arguments. So you ridicule them. Actually, the form of socialism in the 3rd Reich is quite interesting. https://www.mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian What I mean is that he ignored the questions en started comparing current Germany with 3rd Reich. I can't ridicule an argument that was not stated. Thank you for the link to the article, it was interesting. But the thing that the article misses is that it was totalitarianism, not socialism. What the article says is: "What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners." So... The only thing that they prove is that socialism totalitarianism = capitalist totalitarianism. Because in the end government has all powers, including legislative and economic, and people have 0 powers. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: Spendulus on January 01, 2017, 10:41:50 PM We still have 50+ minus two years of one the best nations of the world. Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend. Please dont start with the bullshit that nazi-germany was socialist LoL Of course it was. Even though they indoctrinate you otherwise of course in your fascist country Germany. You do realize that the strong Euro was a fascist plot of Germany to enslave the rest of Europe having them borrow in Euros and then have to pay back in Euros when Germany manufacturers everything there. Before the Euro, the other countries could default on their debt by printing more local currency. Hilter was socialist. He printed money and spent it on public works to put people to work (that is how the Autobahn was built). There was socialized health care (in which they needed to kill all the medically handicapped in order to keep the system from going bankrupt). You live in a horrible, evil country. We had to stop you fools once before in WW2 (actually CoinCube makes the argument that it was the bad weather that thwarted Hilter but he was overextended any way because he relied on stealing resources in order to keep his system running). Now you fools are doing it again. Dumb motherfuckers. I have some German ancestry but I don't think it is something to be proud of. But of course, you fools are proud and arrogant. Even more arrogant are the fuckers from Netherlands. I met a few Germans and Netherlands dudes over here in the Philippines. Arrogant motherfuckers. Think they are superior to Americans. So boastful about their social system. One Netherlands dude over here was talking shit about me behind my back yet he is married to prostitute who gets pregnant with her "cousin" every time he goes home. And he spends his days looking at porn on his computer. That doesn't mean I have any love for the leftists in the USA either. I suppose after Merkel, you'll lurch to Fascist again. Just another obfuscation of socialism/leftism/stealing from each other. Every time someone qualifies 3rd Reich of "socialist", the average IQ of the world decreases. You still haven't answered how you pay for public services without taxes... How do you pay firefighters, roads, doctors...? What you mean, is that you'd prefer to not hear those arguments. So you ridicule them. Actually, the form of socialism in the 3rd Reich is quite interesting. https://www.mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian What I mean is that he ignored the questions en started comparing current Germany with 3rd Reich. I can't ridicule an argument that was not stated. Thank you for the link to the article, it was interesting. But the thing that the article misses is that it was totalitarianism, not socialism. What the article says is: "What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners." So... The only thing that they prove is that socialism totalitarianism = capitalist totalitarianism. Because in the end government has all powers, including legislative and economic, and people have 0 powers. I do disagree to a point, but yes, the article is interesting. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: valta4065 on January 02, 2017, 03:43:29 PM Hey, saw your bullshit about socialism and private sectors and all.
Here is a link about Health care industry around the world and their share of GDP of countries: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS As you can see, when an industry is privately managed it costs 17% of GDP (USA) When it's publicly managed it's around the 11% or above (France, Sweden...) Funny how the socialists manage an industry with an average similar performance but for 6% of GDP less Could it be that the "freedom of market" leads to huge monopolies and companies agreeing all together to raise prices in order to win more? Could it be that capitalism is all about making riches richer? Nah, that couldn't be. Socialism is definitely evil. Look at those governments taxing 11% of GDP for equal health care benefits while our good private companies tax only 17% of GDP for unequal health care benefits! Definitely much better! Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 04, 2017, 04:35:39 PM As you can see, when an industry is privately managed it costs 17% of GDP (USA) When it's publicly managed it's around the 11% or above (France, Sweden...) Funny how the socialists manage an industry with an average similar performance but for 6% of GDP less Rationing. That is why rich Canadians used to go to the USA so they wouldn't have to be on a waiting list for surgery. Just because I don't refute every idiot in this thread, doesn't mean they aren't idiots. I simply am not paid enough to justify wasting my time on a bunch of fools. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 04, 2017, 04:47:44 PM What I mean is that he ignored the questions en started comparing current Germany with 3rd Reich. I can't ridicule an argument that was not stated. Thank you for the link to the article, it was interesting. But the thing that the article misses is that it was totalitarianism, not socialism. What the article says is: "What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners." So... The only thing that they prove is that socialism totalitarianism = capitalist totalitarianism. Because in the end government has all powers, including legislative and economic, and people have 0 powers. Socialism is a totalitarianism endgame in sheepskin every time in human history. There are no exceptions. Capitalism as in industrial or agricultural capitalism requires totalitarianism: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg17396067#msg17396067 Click the above link to broaden your mind a bit and understand what I mean by Libertarian free markets. Germany is headed in the same repeating direction as it has in the past. The Euro was created to prevent currency risk for German industrial capitalists and also it enslaved the PIIGS by not allowing them to devalue their currency when they denominated their loans in Euros. Germans just can't stop top-down micromanaging everything. They are "perfectionists". And a perfect slavery hell is what they create every time. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: valta4065 on January 04, 2017, 05:08:20 PM As you can see, when an industry is privately managed it costs 17% of GDP (USA) When it's publicly managed it's around the 11% or above (France, Sweden...) Funny how the socialists manage an industry with an average similar performance but for 6% of GDP less Rationing. That is why rich Canadians used to go to the USA so they wouldn't have to be on a waiting list for surgery. Just because I don't refute every idiot in this thread, doesn't mean they aren't idiots. I simply am not paid enough to justify wasting my time on a bunch of fools. Rationing? Wahou, so many facts in your answer, so much data, wow Here are some facts proving you wrong. Just because USA have a better High Cost health care doesn't mean the system is better. All you're proving (not even proving because you have 0 data or facts but let's say you're right even without it) is that USA takes better care of rich people than Canada. Here is an IMF study on efficiency of health care systems https://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2011/paris/pdf/Joumard.pdf Funny how the one coming with data, facts and logical reasonning is the idiot and the one just saying "world is like this" without any argument data or logic is the intelligent one. Reminds me of how us "libertards" are supposed to never counter argument or use actual logic... Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: criptix on January 04, 2017, 10:04:28 PM tbh. i think it is just shelbys bitterness about his life that speaks here.
he should have just stayed in the US or old Europe instead of going into the jungle... Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: DooMAD on January 04, 2017, 11:29:23 PM Funny how the one coming with data, facts and logical reasonning is the idiot and the one just saying "world is like this" without any argument data or logic is the intelligent one. That's just it, though. It doesn't matter how much evidence or reasoning you throw at it. To him, at least, the world really is like he thinks it is. After a while, you'll realise anything contrary to his vision of the world is dismissed. You could be talking all the sense in the world and while others will certainly see it, he simply can't see it any other way. Or won't see it. I still haven't figured out which it is yet, to be honest. It's either off-the-scale willful belligerence, or some sort of cognitive imbalance. It's easier if you just make your point so that others will understand it and then move on. No one's going to change his mind. We're all just communists enacting megadeath either way. ;) Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 04, 2017, 11:34:12 PM Here is an IMF study on efficiency of health care systems https://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2011/paris/pdf/Joumard.pdf Funny how the one coming with data, facts And you are too dumb to see the flaws in that document. Lol, attributing the greater longevity in Japan versus USA to health care when the Japanese eat more fish and vegetables and the Americans eat more McFatUpSize, HighFrustoseCornSyrupFrankenFoods, and TripleCheeseNitratedMeatOverloadPizza. I won't even bother to dispel the rest of the IMF's obfuscations. You 'tards love your slave masters. The rationing is real. Ask people who have tried to get surgery in the socialized health care systems. And it will get worse. Eventually it will reach Hilter's solution of culling the herd of everyone with a preexisting health condition. Mark my word. I am going to laughing you 'tards as you cull yourselves yet again. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 06, 2017, 11:01:02 PM The leftists are going to fuck up this world with another megadeath...
@iamnotback i really wonder how can you pretend to create disruptive tech if you miss to understand the basics of human nature and lack the proper amount of empathy to get over traditional beliefs. people like you, despite the (supposed) bright mind, fail miserably because they are missing something they will never get (or at least they don't try to). you sound more closely to a monkey rather than a man of the future that is going to be effective in the future. This young South Korean leftist said to me yesterday that woman's pay (in Asia I presume) is statistically 70% of that of men (guess he never considered the reality that women produce less than men on average bcz they have other priorities such as child bearing), and he said employers must be forced to follow the law which dictates equal pay for the genders (presumably in South Korean because I don't know if that is a law in the Philippines). I replied to him that just because he can measure an inequality doesn't mean he can define a criteria of equality of pay for enforcement. I said how do you decide whose pay is not equal when each person's skills are so varied and unique? For example, there is no other person in the world who could write my whitepaper, so who decides whether my pay is too high or if some other person should be paid as much as me? Only the buyer of the services or labor can decide how much it is work, i.e. only the free market can decide. It is impossible for the law to decide. Also even the measurement is statistical nonsense, because the measurement criteria has the same flaw (but I didn't dare try to confuse his limited "intellect" with such insight). He replied that I didn't not address his point, and repeated the statistic and said, "it is the law". Sorry I don't know how to explain to your dumb asses, that you are retarded. I might as well be speaking with a brick wall. Yeah you keep wondering how I can create disruptive tech you retarded leftist dufus. I don't need to apologize to you for your insanity. I know how leftism results in megadeath every damn time throughout human history. Hopefully you have a few more brain cells than that idiot Korean dude. You leftists claim that you are for humanity, but in reality you are for megadeath (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.msg17233527#msg17233527). But you never quite figure that out, like a dog chasing his tail. Btw, at the same time that Korean was making me depressed about the future of Millennials (I told him you youth can fuck up the world any way you want, I am old and I'll be passing on), a 18 year old hottie (white skin btw) was flirting with me in the immigration office. She provided her SMS number and I texted her that I was an old, sick fart, blind in one eye, etc and to move on. This made her more interested. Lol. Go figure. I think you have a lot to learn about the reality of human nature and this world. After that, I got a haircut at the mall, and some gorgeous brown skin 22 year old was washing my hair, smiling, and joking with me and inviting me to her 22nd bday party on Sunday. I looked in the mirror and don't know how any young lady could tolerate my old face with eye bags and wrinkles (but I guess I do still look a bit like Tom Cruise with the very short hair cut, if you overlook the eyes or consider the side view). She was telling me she loved my ash brown/blonde hair (I guess she ignored the white hair on the sides, lol). I told her I loved her blonde dye with highlights (and true it looked really great, with her red lipstick looked like one of the Korean dolls on MTV but with a brown complexion). Oh and there was also the probably mid to late 20 year old Chinese+Spanish ancestry (long nose, long face, while skin, tall, caucasian body type) looking lady with a 4 year old daughter that was flirting with me at the receptionist's desk. I think she overheard me talking and joking with my hairdresser that if I married a younger lady, I would have to give her a child and that I loved to have another child but I might be too old but if I could maintain my sports, then maybe I could do it. There was this Western young lady getting a haircut next to me, and so I was talking about how I read that in the USA young ladies are getting birth control injections which make them infertile for 6 years. And I contrasted that against the ladies in the Philippines who want your baby even if you have no money to support the baby. My hairdresser suggested I should impregnate all the women in the salon. I was purposely trying to make that Western girl (she was quite attractive btw) feel not proud about her Western culture. She was absolutely silent even though I made a joke, "why didn't you tell my sister was getting a haircut today". I don't think she appreciated it, lol. She was on my blind eye (right) side, so I couldn't really see what she was up to without turning my head (another of the "gifts" that keeps on giving from someone in my past life). If I wasn't sick, I wouldn't have any time to post on this forum. Lol. Seriously I am fucking sick. And it is really depressing because I could accomplish so much but my health seems to be royally fucked up. And I am losing hope and patience. Lacking sleep again, abdominal pain, chronic fatigure, headache, can't function normally. Four years of this fucking shit (and 6 years of not always pleasant decline before that) >:( :middlefinger: (to it all) I am fucking tired. And posting on this forum is just a coping mechanism for not facing that reality that my life is destroyed. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 13, 2017, 09:34:20 AM It is amazing how the Democrats are refusing to yield. You have Rossie O’Donald coming out now claiming there should be a declaration of Martial Law and Obama should stay in the White House until Trump can prove his innocence: I “fully support imposing martial law – delaying the inauguration – until Trump is cleared of all charges.” That’s what she said in response to a Twitter user who suggested the U.S. military take control of the government until the president-elect can prove he has no financial ties to Russia. I have never heard any Republican ever call for the suspension of the constitution because Clinton or Obama won. The country has always accepted the vote and moved on. This is just showing how very dangerous the world is becoming for these leftists are historically always the most violent people. Looking at our war model, I really have to say this gives me deep concern about what lies ahead with these types of people who will do anything, say anything, to get their way. Then Elizabeth Warren vows to delay all appointments to prevent Trump from accomplishing his agenda in the first 100 days. What all this nonsense is about is cover for the real issue. If the Democrats were honest and clean and did not try so hard to sabotage the Republican primaries to ensure Trump would be the nominee so they though they could beat him, and they did not sabotage Bernie to make sure Hillary would win their candidacy, then if Russia hacked the DNC, there would be nothing to report. This is like a bank robber blaming the police for getting there early so they got caught. Had the police been 2 minutes late, they would have gotten away. This is the entire argument of the Democrats. Nobody is saying (1) the election was hacked, and (2) that the emailed that were released were fake. The entire issue is – they got caught. Do anything and saying anything – the ends justify the means Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: iamnotback on January 13, 2017, 10:43:02 AM Leftists are Hilters pretending to care for all of us:
Anyone who pays much attention to contentious scienctific debates in our time (vaccinations, GMOs, global climate change, etc) recognizes 'peer review' as a laughable circle-jerk which means little or nothing when corporate money is involved and corporate profits are on the line. That pinhead protokol doesn't have the intellect to incorporate such holistic analysis. Smallpox was eradicated from the Earth due to vaccination (pretty much, some strains still exist in high security virology labs, but the general population doesn't suffer from it because it was destroyed through vaccination programmes). That in itself is a some pretty thorough evidence that some vaccines at least work as they should. Many other serious diseases are now under control through vaccination. You repeat your same error from the AGW thread, in that you think a century is of any significance at all relative to the repeating cycles throughout all of recorded history. Smallpox is not eradicated. It may be dormant and eventually will mutate and pounce again. The benefit from some vaccinations may be worth it, but we can't know the costs. We don't know what impacts we are making. For example, by ruining human natural selection for surviving viruses, we may be preparing ourselves for a megadeath due to allowing many of the weak DNA to proliferate (procreate). A. This chart only looks at deaths in the US from 1900-1965 (a pretty small amount of time), And you conveniently argue against the relevance of short periods of time when it suits your agenda. You are not objective. As for your cancer comments, you should know that one of the main reasons that cancer has become so prevalent is because humans are living longer and longer, giving cancer more time to develop. That's why you don't see many animals in their natural environments get cancer, because they die from other causes before cancer kills them. Modern medicine has increased the life expectancy by a huge amount, so cancers have obviously become a statistically higher killer. This is well known in the scientific community. Prove that jackass. Explain how the Japanese on Okinawa live so long without cancer. http://www.hngn.com/articles/7367/20130710/okinawa-diet-followers-average-life-span-116-years-eat-video.htm Answer me this: Why is the life expectancy of the majority of the world's population (at least in the most developed countries) at an all time high? If vaccines are deadly, wouldn't we be seeing a decrease in life expectancy? Food for thought. Do you have an IQ of 105? WTF is wrong with your brain. As if vaccines are the only technological improvement over the past century which has impacted the quality of life of humans. ::) What about refrigeration. I don't like the idea of too much state involvement in people's personal lives, but I also don't believe herd immunity should be compromised because some parents refuse to vaccinate their children - it puts others in danger that may not be able to be vaccinated for real medical reasons (such as allergic reactions) I don't think full on prosecution of parents is fair, but I do think they should be "persuaded" to vaccinate - for example some countries have started stopping welfare/benefits for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. That seems like a good idea to me. Now you show your true face. You behave like a narcissistic little dictator, who knows it all and likes to play god. It's disgusting. It's unbearable to read your delusional belief in medical pseudo-science and open disrespect for individual freedom. You are now on my ignore list. Another Hitler wolf in "kind, caring, leftist" sheepskin. These are the most dangerous virus on the planet and we need a forced eradication plan to remove them from the planet. Ignore is too Libertarian, hit him with his own philosophical insanity. Title: Re: Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials Post by: valta4065 on January 13, 2017, 11:09:50 AM Wahou, those threads are much more interesting and healthier without imanotback posts ;D
I suggest anyone with a brain to also click on the little ignore button under his name. I'm ready to bet my hand that he hadn't answer to the simple fact that his "sources" are blog articles without anything to back them. If you actually believe he's right please PM me so I can add you to my ignore list. Because I can debate all day long with someone actually answering with facts or at least ideas. I can't and don't want bother to debate with someone answering only insults and other blog articles while ignoring your legit sources. |
