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Title: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 08, 2017, 06:56:20 AM
All the ICO topics need to be moved to the scam section now.

If i hear the word "ICO" one more time i am gonna lose my shit !


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Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: igigme77 on January 08, 2017, 06:59:27 AM
All the ICO topics need to be moved to the scam section now.

If i hear the word "ICO" one more time i am gonna lose my shit !


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Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 08, 2017, 07:15:39 AM
Ever since they started using the Term IPO then Angel Investing, Crowd Funding and then "ICO"
I have been disgusted by it and almost throw up in my mouth when i hear that term used here NON STOP.

The usage of the word here sticks in my craw sumthin' fierce !
I just wanna slap the greed off a mutha fucka's face when i hear that shit !

WHY ? Oh jeez have i not gone into it enough ?

Seriously when you people say it ..you make me sick !
But i created this topic to post a meme pic ;)
..and to see if you guys agree with me or what ?

I might have to go to my safe space and do some meditation (blasting death Metal + Sacrificing Virgins on my Altar)


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: bathrobehero on January 08, 2017, 07:29:27 AM
I don't know what you mean Spoetnik, I invested in about a dozen of ICO's after seeing how pretty the images were in their announcement threads and I made so much money that now I can afford two whole slices of pizza and I only had to invest 10 BTC and I didn't even had to waste time with 'escrows' (whatever that buzzword might mean). They're awesome and now I'm a pro trader and investor! /s


Title: INTERNET PANHANDLING
Post by: Spoetnik on January 08, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DL9LF4L.jpg

Bumfights Coin - ICO starts in February.

Rufus the stunt bum approved !

..get your BTC's ready Investards your gonna be fuckin' RICH !


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Cranky4u on January 08, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
All in for ICO BUTT TARD

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Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Canadian in Germany on January 08, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Why are ICOs scam a priori?

ICOs have paid for major life expenses for the last two years for many smart people all around the world.

I've been blessed to buy a house in Berlin fully subsidized by ICO cryptocurrency opportunities.

Why is this good? Because ICOS are not only free market experiments, they (the major non-scam ICOs) also foster cryptotransaction-innovation.

You and anyone else are free to be btczed or choose not to be "amused" (c) Spoetnik.

Unfortunately there are some people whose characters' bad realms come to shine the more money or BTC they have their minds on - that is not the case with people behind honest Initial Coin Offerings. Neither it's the case with Spoetnik. He's just one of the crypto scholars who considers the ethics of a coin's Initial Offering to be fundamentally wrong.

 


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Shiroslullaby on January 08, 2017, 11:13:47 AM
Making an altcoin and starting an ICO is the new version of the Nigerian prince bank scam.
We are going to see a lot of new projects in the next year or two, and many of them will disappear a month after the premine coins are dumped on the exchanges.

Every time someone asks what ICO to invest in, I tell them to just send their Bitcoin to my address.



Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Hermanny on January 08, 2017, 11:24:46 AM
All the ICO topics need to be moved to the scam section now.

If i hear the word "ICO" one more time i am gonna lose my shit !


https://i.imgflip.com/17h4cp.jpg

I totally agree with you!


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Canadian in Germany on January 08, 2017, 11:26:51 AM
Making an altcoin and starting an ICO is the new version of the Nigerian prince bank scam.
We are going to see a lot of new projects in the next year or two, and many of them will disappear a month after the premine coins are dumped on the exchanges.

Every time someone asks what ICO to invest in, I tell them to just send their Bitcoin to my address.



That's right.

And then there are the real ICOs, those of whom Spoetnik and me got shares.

At some advanced IQ point you just happen to have some, because you know it makes real $ense.

Iamnotback was a little callous about this when he basically refused to get money post-2005 despite having been one of the top developers in the late nineties. Now with fancy money machines (Steem etc) he sort of figured out how to get paid for figuring out how to become healthy. But that's another story.

I work at a German research institute. Of course it's kind of a no-brainer to figure out where to invest a little btc's here and there to secure the family with long term cryptographically secured holdings. If one does not do that it's not quite smart, really.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: JeffBrad12 on January 08, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
We are going to see a lot of new projects in the next year or two, and many of them will disappear a month after the premine coins are dumped on the exchanges.
Watch the Darcrus project and there is something wrong with the dev. 


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: BTCLovingDude on January 08, 2017, 02:18:11 PM
unfortunately we will hear it more in the near future, i keep seeing new people who are also newbies in anything blockchain related are asking how they can create a new altcoin. and they all see potential of profit because there are still idiots who invest in them and hand their money to these scammers on a silver platter.


Title: Re: INTERNET PANHANDLING
Post by: flekkelek on January 08, 2017, 03:17:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DL9LF4L.jpg

Bumfights Coin - ICO starts in February.

Rufus the stunt bum approved !

..get your BTC's ready Investards your gonna be fuckin' RICH !
can't wait bumfightscoin <3


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: igigme77 on January 08, 2017, 04:31:31 PM
You guys should check out all the cool new icos running and invest a bit in every one because we all know a lot of them will do quite well. Don't be afraid of the ico, embrace the ico.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: rafajunior99 on January 08, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
quite leery if the newbie who continue to hold ico, why they do not wear the proper account in the name of the only game ico to take great advantage if ico ends later.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 09, 2017, 02:55:15 AM
Like i was saying i was just curious if you all got the same reaction as me.
The word ICO makes me cringe something fierce.

When i start reading about a coin and i hear "ICO" i close the web page instantly.
And i was getting the feeling the public was getting pretty damn tired of them too.
Why ?
Because i see dev's now making a large effort to avoid mentioning their coin is an ICO.
They are avoiding saying it !
..they know

Guys.. come one.
It's Crypto-Panhandling.
You buy then later you get to be a bag holder.. for life  :D

98% of all ICO get dumped on and never regain their price for one thing.
And the 1 or 2 that has had any level of success is essentially dead.
Because it was used by the greedy and discarded afterwards.

People defend them for short term gain.. nothing more.
How do we know ?
Easy the track record of them all speaks volumes.

..play the game but you are begging for the cops to come knocking.
What ? You think they are just going to let this shit slide forever ?  :D
Silly Investards ROFL  ;D


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: debtstack on January 09, 2017, 03:27:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/8N4IOL1.jpg


Title: ..you get one of those !
Post by: Spoetnik on January 09, 2017, 07:38:07 AM
https://pics.onsizzle.com/how-close-i-am-to-lose-my-shit-aranjevi-credit-2415426.png


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Pursuer on January 09, 2017, 08:07:12 AM
You guys should check out all the cool new icos running and invest a bit in every one because we all know a lot of them will do quite well. Don't be afraid of the ico, embrace the ico.

a lot of them?
if anything only a couple of them will be successful and I say successful but in fact that is a wrong usage of this word because they will give profit from the pump the have and then die, nothing more.
and since it is a one time thing among lots of ICOs I'd say investing in an ICO is still not a good option because of the risks. we are better off investing in altcoins when they are released and stop allowing scammers to make money this way.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: arielbit on January 09, 2017, 08:19:17 AM
this is..

BITICOTALK.ORG

or

BITCONTALK.ORG


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: memequiserle on January 09, 2017, 09:07:16 AM
not all ico selling, ico coin is bad
you can see in monero, monero ico price only 40k satoshi
this now monero price is very big and good price, big community and good coin


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: kiklo on January 09, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
Hmm,

you might want to get a pair of these ,

Leightning L3 Noise Blocking Earmuffs
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7660ef4b-a2e3-405a-ad76-e1d03afab8cd_1.4ae343148b70d215e8c942d887a09159.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

To block out that nasty 3 letter word *** , they keep saying.


 8)


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 09, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
You guys should check out all the cool new icos running and invest a bit in every one because we all know a lot of them will do quite well. Don't be afraid of the ico, embrace the ico.

a lot of them?
if anything only a couple of them will be successful and I say successful but in fact that is a wrong usage of this word because they will give profit from the pump the have and then die, nothing more.
and since it is a one time thing among lots of ICOs I'd say investing in an ICO is still not a good option because of the risks. we are better off investing in altcoins when they are released and stop allowing scammers to make money this way.

Plus they are totally centralized which is a bad thing.
I have provided a few different reasons why..
Such as the incredible value of possessing vast amounts of coins for short periods.
I Could go on in that direction but there is other angles too.
Such as ?
Idealism.
They are us moving backwards which defeats the purpose of all this.
We have ideals etc for a reason.
We started this stuff with a dream ..a vision of freedom & decentralization.
NOT centralized greed.
ICO's stomp & piss all over the core of our beliefs.

If you all want reasons why they are bad i got them till the cows come home ;)

If you all want No Laws.. decentralization and a Free Market etc then you need to stupid supporting ICO's which pervert our ideology.
Those philosophies many of us have are grossly violated by ICO's which is why we do not support them.. ANY of them.

The fact that they are a massive risk of losing money is actually pretty far down the list of my concerns.

I AM about moving forward.. every word i post here is about that concept.
And i challenge anyone to say ICO's are an upgrade over Bitcoin or POW / POS coins etc.

ICO's came about because ASICS rolled out for SCRYPT.
Users flocked to eBay ASAP to dump their GPU's.. then came the ICO's.
They all wanted to loiter around here making ROI's but did not want to invest in hardware to secure the block chains to do it.. a sign of support !
Nope..
Users wanted a faster and easier streamlined way of pumping out even more coins to pump & dump.
Did you all forget there was mass coin cloning after 2013's big popularity boom ?
It got scammy.. then ICO's were started to make the scammy bullshit easier.

ICO's are a scam.

They are an atrocity and vulgar display of greed.

If you don't have the money to launch a coin then don't do it.
Leave it to someone who has the means.
Don't create problems to sell the solution guys.

You all that support ICO's do so out of greed.. not ideology.
Yeah.. that is a bad thing LOL

@Kiklo
You all better buy those.. to block out all that ICO-FUD here at ICOtalk.org ;)
See above for reference (there is more where that came from)  8)


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: igigme77 on January 11, 2017, 01:26:40 AM
Spoetnik


Be truthful.

All the icos are your are they not? 

 ::)


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 11, 2017, 04:26:38 AM
not all ico selling, ico coin is bad
you can see in monero, monero ico price only 40k satoshi
this now monero price is very big and good price, big community and good coin

Monero's ICO is one of the worst in History !  >:(

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/beware-of-the-cute-duckling-scam.jpeg


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: olushakes on January 11, 2017, 05:26:02 AM
It is true that most ICOs have come and gone and even majority have turned into scam after the developers have seen it as a "get rich quick" method. You see ICOs with the highest hype but alas its a showbiz that will last a while. But at the same time, not all of them have turned that way as we seen some that have seen that as a way to build funds for necessary expansion and have gone to live to a certain level of acceptance. In my own way, the problem is not the ICOs but the unscrupulous individuals who used it as a means to defraud people.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: igigme77 on January 12, 2017, 02:40:20 AM
It is true that most ICOs have come and gone and even majority have turned into scam after the developers have seen it as a "get rich quick" method. You see ICOs with the highest hype but alas its a showbiz that will last a while. But at the same time, not all of them have turned that way as we seen some that have seen that as a way to build funds for necessary expansion and have gone to live to a certain level of acceptance. In my own way, the problem is not the ICOs but the unscrupulous individuals who used it as a means to defraud people.
I think it's true but there are still good ico's that need funding what is hard is picking the real ones from the fake because if the fake ones can like very real and professional.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 12, 2017, 07:45:07 AM
It is true that most ICOs have come and gone and even majority have turned into scam after the developers have seen it as a "get rich quick" method. You see ICOs with the highest hype but alas its a showbiz that will last a while. But at the same time, not all of them have turned that way as we seen some that have seen that as a way to build funds for necessary expansion and have gone to live to a certain level of acceptance. In my own way, the problem is not the ICOs but the unscrupulous individuals who used it as a means to defraud people.
I think it's true but there are still good ico's that need funding what is hard is picking the real ones from the fake because if the fake ones can like very real and professional.

Does how they work interest you or just the profit results from them ?

That comment you posted has been flooding this place for years now.
All we see is noob's show up and post that exact comment you just posted now.

All we here is idealism and crypto rabble chanting catch phrases..
Then what we REALLY see is actions that violate the shit rolling out of peoples mouths here.
All that no laws, free market, decentralization etc rabble you all spew is shit on by ICO's ..ALL OF THEM.
But you all don't care because you NEED to make ROI's at Poloniex.
Same old same old since Ripple came out..
You all talk a ton of bullshit then act like greedy dirt bags.

The proof is.. rather simple.
You ONLY talk about profits.. not HOW the coins work.

All we see is commentary that is rooted in 1 concept here..

ICO SCAM = ICO that did NOT get me profit.
LEGIT ICO = ICO that made me lots of profit.

Seriously look at the crap you all post here non stop.. that is all it ever amounts to 99% of the time.
And guess what ? The whole entire planet sees what i see.
The little facade is not working.

Crypto is dying and shrinking.
The only new people who come to crypto are the scammy pieces of shit out there like MLM guys or Ransomware makers or greedy immoral brats looking for ROI's.
And dev's pandering to it all are no less guilty... or the services like Exchanges that are willing to support them for a cut of the profits.
How many of you out there think any ICO would get any interest if it was not for the exchanges putting them on for trading ?
0.
How do i know ? Because you all declare a coin dead when it gets delisted.  :D

Hey, have at 'er ..go hard guys.
I will laugh at you every step of the way and scream, I Told You So in your face obnoxiously non stop though.
..get smart or don't, i don't give a fuck.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: igigme77 on January 13, 2017, 08:28:43 PM
It is true that most ICOs have come and gone and even majority have turned into scam after the developers have seen it as a "get rich quick" method. You see ICOs with the highest hype but alas its a showbiz that will last a while. But at the same time, not all of them have turned that way as we seen some that have seen that as a way to build funds for necessary expansion and have gone to live to a certain level of acceptance. In my own way, the problem is not the ICOs but the unscrupulous individuals who used it as a means to defraud people.
I think it's true but there are still good ico's that need funding what is hard is picking the real ones from the fake because if the fake ones can like very real and professional.

Does how they work interest you or just the profit results from them ?

That comment you posted has been flooding this place for years now.
All we see is noob's show up and post that exact comment you just posted now.

All we here is idealism and crypto rabble chanting catch phrases..
Then what we REALLY see is actions that violate the shit rolling out of peoples mouths here.
All that no laws, free market, decentralization etc rabble you all spew is shit on by ICO's ..ALL OF THEM.
But you all don't care because you NEED to make ROI's at Poloniex.
Same old same old since Ripple came out..
You all talk a ton of bullshit then act like greedy dirt bags.

The proof is.. rather simple.
You ONLY talk about profits.. not HOW the coins work.

All we see is commentary that is rooted in 1 concept here..

ICO SCAM = ICO that did NOT get me profit.
LEGIT ICO = ICO that made me lots of profit.

Seriously look at the crap you all post here non stop.. that is all it ever amounts to 99% of the time.
And guess what ? The whole entire planet sees what i see.
The little facade is not working.

Crypto is dying and shrinking.
The only new people who come to crypto are the scammy pieces of shit out there like MLM guys or Ransomware makers or greedy immoral brats looking for ROI's.
And dev's pandering to it all are no less guilty... or the services like Exchanges that are willing to support them for a cut of the profits.
How many of you out there think any ICO would get any interest if it was not for the exchanges putting them on for trading ?
0.
How do i know ? Because you all declare a coin dead when it gets delisted.  :D

Hey, have at 'er ..go hard guys.
I will laugh at you every step of the way and scream, I Told You So in your face obnoxiously non stop though.
..get smart or don't, i don't give a fuck.


What's funny is that that is true. At the same time its very sad but innovation sometimes costs money and people, companies have been raising money as long as money has been around. Now with the invention of bitcoin we can all invest and have a chance to strike it rich investing in the next facebook or youtube.
Quote
ICO SCAM = ICO that did NOT get me profit.
LEGIT ICO = ICO that made me lots of profit.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: dontryjustdoit on January 17, 2017, 03:54:46 AM
As long as people keep investing they will keep coming.


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: Spoetnik on January 17, 2017, 09:26:10 AM
As long as people keep investing they will keep coming.

Well when people start getting worried about getting put in jail we should finally see some major improvements in this crypto stuff.

If we can abuse something we do.. it's what human history teaches us.
Give us a planet and we will piss & shit all over it until it's dead.
If we can get to Mars ? We will fucking trash that too !

I started this stuff against regulations but i realized after a while it was needed.
Just imagine waking up tomorrow and hearing the Police force / Govt / Ambulance / Fire Dept were closed forever.
Imagine no law enforcement ever again.. just pure anarchy.
How well would the Financial world being doing ?
I think it would collapse instantly.

I am surprised this scammy crypto bullshit has limped along as long as it has.
You can see we collectively will keep lowering the bar until we are stopped by force.
Common sense tells us the cops are comin'  :-\


Title: Re: [FACTS] If I have to hear the word "ICO" one more time..
Post by: rokkyroad on January 17, 2017, 07:36:29 PM
As long as people keep investing they will keep coming.

Well when people start getting worried about getting put in jail we should finally see some major improvements in this crypto stuff.

If we can abuse something we do.. it's what human history teaches us.
Give us a planet and we will piss & shit all over it until it's dead.
If we can get to Mars ? We will fucking trash that too !

I started this stuff against regulations but i realized after a while it was needed.
Just imagine waking up tomorrow and hearing the Police force / Govt / Ambulance / Fire Dept were closed forever.
Imagine no law enforcement ever again.. just pure anarchy.
How well would the Financial world being doing ?
I think it would collapse instantly.

I am surprised this scammy crypto bullshit has limped along as long as it has.
You can see we collectively will keep lowering the bar until we are stopped by force.
Common sense tells us the cops are comin'  :-\

Good post Spoetnik! You are bang on. 

Mankind can't be trusted to do anything, follow any rules, or live peacefully amongst ourselves without a hammer poised over our heads. It's been that way since the beginning of time when chiefs, kings, and dictators held the hammers.
Not much has changed in the thousands of years of our existance. We live under the illusion of freedom but we are not free, cannot be free, and may never be free.

I doubt a higher intelligence will allow us to spread. I'm sure they will view us a plague.